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CIVIL WAR II STORYTIME Give me all those (You)s

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CIVIL WAR II STORYTIME

Give me all those (You)s
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>>83374697
(You) are a fag OP, but Bendis is worse.
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>first page goes over the size limit
FUCKING NIPMOOT INCREASE THE FILE SIZE ALREADY
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>>83374697
Yet again, OP is a faggot.
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Just fuck my continuity up fàm
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>>83374748
>>No Naja
I wanted to see her under this artist...
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>>83374697
>Give me all those jews ?

what did he mean by this ?
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>>83374697
Thread theme
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMAVLXk9QWA
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>>83374748
that reads robotic
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>doing it only for the (you)s
delete this op, you are doing it for the wrong reasons
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>>83374748
Why the hell did they all show up? They've never done this for any other Inhuman before.
And isn't Reader a mercenary?
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>>83374852

>no this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_xWCJAtz3U
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>>83374816
I was gonna say something about inviting OML but


how the FUCK did Hawkeye get that high up?
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>>83374834
>Scarlet Witch being useful
>In a Bendis comic
MADNESS
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>>83374868
>Drinks
They're recovering alcoholics Bendis you fucking hack
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out of curiosity, I wonder what would happen if I reported the OP. teoretically, he breaks the rules
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>>83374834
whatever happened to magic being nearly extinct and only a handful of practitioners still alive?
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>>83374883
Fuck this inhuman wanking
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>>83374878
>not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf1AA0myGEA
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>>83374848
STOPPING THIS GUY WAS COMPLETELY UNETHICAL! WE SHOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL HE DESTROYED MORE!!!
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>>83374883
I can hear the X-salt already
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>>83374883
>No more Hellstorm
The leak was right. Of course Bendis wouldn't miss a chance to diss Wanda, could be worse.
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>>83374917
>letting any jean in your head
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>>83374883
TO THE INHUMANS!
>>No More Hellstrom
Man, that leaker.
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>>83374905
WHY ARE THEY ACTING LIKE THE CONCEPT OF PRECOGNITION IS NEW AND UNPRECEDENTED?
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>>83374937
But how can she make him gay now? The Inhumans need diversity too.
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>>83374891
Oh hey, tit's Emma Frost!
...I think it's Emma Frost. Is there an Inhuman Emma Frost?
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>>83374868
>Carol and Tony going drinking
Not gonna end well.
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>>83374748
never trust the side with Hank McCoy, Ulysses.
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>>83374834
so i guess magic if fixed
or this is just bendis not careing about other books
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>Two Men and a Fuhrer
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>>83374883
>it's an Inhumans shilling episode
Off to a great start!
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so this is where maximus says, cool a new assissitant?
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>>83374957
Why is Spider-Man even there?
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>>83374962
Nope that is not emma
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>>83374897
You know it's against the rules to say that you will report someone before doing it.
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>>83374987
Tony keeps him around for bantz
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>>83374816

The last insane if Old Man Logan, Laura was jumping down a giant monster to find him.

Also, that's Pixie. That makes me so happy.
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>>83374981
speaking of Ultron, I notice neither he nor Pym were invited to save the world
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>>83374883
>inhuman wank and shutting on Rwanda in one page

Two bingo titles down already
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>>83374883
Beast, race traitor
at least one character Bendis got right
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>>83375004
>Johnny and Medusa in bed
I'm triggered
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>>83374981
The Hulk SHOULD ALREADY be locked up, so that's a dumb question Tony
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>>83374848
Spiders are only good for crowd control
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>>83375013
They did it
They seriously have the FCBD stuff off panel.
New readers are going to be so fucking confused.
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>>83375001
which is why I'm wondering, hoping, I won't be alone to try this experiment
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>>83375004
But Bendis, he didn't have the Thanos vision until they already met with the ultimates. Damn it you wrote that chapter.
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ya know the solicits said a a-lister whould be killed but its just war machine.....
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>>83375026
>war machine is replaced by a black teen girl

There is no shame
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>>83374736
Why'd they change it from Homer, again? This just makes it seem stupider.
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>>83375050
Is She-Hulk an A-lister?
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>>83374816
What the fuck is Quicksilver doing? He can run on air now?
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>>83374891
Why is Spidery there? It seems like he was just hanging out in the closet and everyone else just happened to walk in
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>>83375063
Nope. B-list.
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>>83374816
It's like Earth X but not as cool
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>>83375063
she is a high B-lister
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>>83375068
Running on atoms? Ran so fast he managed to beat gravity? Not-mutant shit don't gotta explain it?
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>>83375049
Carol, Doc Samson crawled out of his grave after being dead for three years to go have a friendly chat with you. Shulk will be fine before the year's end
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>>83374950
because most precogs are mutants and FUCK MUTANTS
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>>83374929
wow, getting a lot of bang for our buck with this page.
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>>83374834
>Giving page numbers to the book of vishanti.
Fuck off
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>>83374873
better than actually readin Benis
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>>83375063
>be Carol
>encounter Thanos
>Monica is there
>not immediately fusing to go Binary
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>>83374748
The traitor Mccoy reveals his face.

Goddamn why is this art so good for an event this shitty.
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>>83375091
SERIOUSLY???
THIS??? THIS IS WHAT CAUSES TONY TO HATE THE PRECOG????
FUCKING BULLSHIT!
I'll get more into why later
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>>83375093

Except the spoilers tell us that doesn't happen
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>>83374816
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ok you know things are wacked when stark is the rational one that makes sense.
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>>83374917
What a little cunt
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>>83375091

is this a Miracleman homage or just another generic dead hero in someone's arms thing?
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>>83374820
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>>83375091
>>83375102
>You should have just ignored the Inhuman and let Thanos do whatever he wanted
I fucking hate you Tony, you're full of shit. This is a terrible way to set up a conflict, since Carol did the right thing, there is no way you can argue otherwise.
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>>83374949
>call back to first civil war

Almost at bingo
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So...

Who Team Tony here?
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>>83375127
NOOOOOOOOO
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>>83375091
haha, what the fuck Tony?

>Sure you captured Thanos and prevented him from stealing a cosmic cube with only two casualties, but MUH RHODEY
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>>83374917
>jean mind raping people
never change
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>>83375128
google 'Michelangelo's Pieta'

everyone rips it off
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>>83375113
How exactly is stopping Thanos playing God? This makes no sense.
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>>83374908
Bendis cares little outside his own books.
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>>83375146
That's why prophecy and time travel stories are always a bad idea, they force you to write really obnoxious shit to keep the story going forward.
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>>83374748
We used cerebero, I mean, that door person to to find you

We're definitely not mutants
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>>83375091
>literally punched so hard his helmet fell off
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>>83375127

>We're probably all being infected with Gamma radiation

Wow what a bunch of professionals
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>>83375134
>wrong as all fuck
>going to try and kill a guy because his BBC died in a fight he chose to be in
hell no
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>we're supposed to side with Iron Man
Carol did the right thing though.
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>>83374949
>Get it? Civil War!
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This comic is terrible and even worse of a justification for heroes to be slapping each other than the original civil war.

If you are still giving marvel money at this point that is disgusting, just how much more will they need to shit on you to get you to stop?
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>>83375115
I not only bet that she-hulk will be alive again by the end of the year, I raise that there won't even be an excuse
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>>83375150

Well that's a tick in my uncultured swine box
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>>83374905
Out of the loop, have they mentioned what Cyclops did?
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>>83375134
I sure ain't, his reasons for starting the war make no fucking sense. This isn't Minority Report, this is people using intel to stop dangerous threats, and IT WORKED.
What would he have done if the GotG had been the ones to tell Carol that Thanos would be there? Ulysses' involvement just can't be blamed for Rhodey's death.
This is bullshit.
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#CarolWasRight
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Anything else?
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>>83375091

Oh, it's time for taking the stupid pills I see.
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>>83375169
But those are two actually two different things and his transformation was actually covered on the news.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>83375134
Tony's side literally makes no sense
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>>83375210
Here's the issue 0 version, let's update it
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>>83375194
it involved some kind of attack on the Inhumans

yet despite how the X-Men won't shut up about it, the Inhumans don't mention it at all, it really can't have been that big of a deal.
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>>83375210
new relaunch could be true since they announced another marvel now
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>>83375134
Tony's in the right. Carol went in half cocked like a rookie and got two of her friends killed like a dumb ass.
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>>83374890
>tfw when you realize this
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>>83374883
Didn't War Machine get government-funded suit?
Can't he just cobble together a mix of the two and spray paint it War Machine colors?
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This makes no sense.

None of it was the random pre-cog's fault, superheroes run the risk of dying every time they confront a major super threat, this was a legitimate danger that needed to be faced and Warmachine would have been into stopping it either way.
The worst part of all this is Shulk dying to a friendly-fire titty-missile.

Why is Bendis such a tremendous hack? He isn't even trying with this terrible setup.
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>>83375071
>>83375091
god, that is idiotic, even by Bendis standards
how is "precog warned us that Thanos is coming" more offensive than, say, "some Shi 'ar station warned us that Thanos is coming"?
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>>83375221
This. There were many ways to set up the conflict to make both sides sympathetic, but Tony just comes off as a butthurt whiner who'd rather let Thanos do whatever he wants than do anything about it because he hates precogs.
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>>83374890
Are they really? They've both been mindwiped by now, maybe they don't remember being alcoholics
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coming soon the children that jen walters gave up for adoption when she found out she was pregnant from fking every super in her she-hulk persona.
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>>83375223
CHARACTERS ACTING OUT OF CHARACTER
REFERENCES TO OLD CIVIL WAR
BENDIS CREATED CHARACTER IS IMPORTANT
SOMEONE DIES
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Disregard my post I suck cocks
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>>83375234
>Carol went in half cocked like a rookie and got two of her friends killed like a dumb ass.
No she didn't, she went with the Ultimates, A-Force and some Inhumans. She took the threat seriously. Heroes risk their lives every time they go on a mission, Rhodey would be proud to have died stopping Thanos.
Tony is arguing that Carol SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE AT ALL.
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>>83375004
>that hack coloring job on Medusa to disguise that she's naked
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So we're all in agreement that Carol did nothing wrong, right?
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>>83375273
We know
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>>83375218

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I had no choice..
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>>83374804
>Naja
Bendis doesn't like green women anon
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this seems like its gonna be one of those events where the side stories are better than the main one.
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>>83375285
I think that's meant to be her hair shadow
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>>83375272
>REFERENCES TO OLD CIVIL WAR
Where? Agreed on everything else
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>>83375127
>ragheads as doctors

no wonder people die in their beds
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>>83375248
I mean, it would make more narrative sense if it was something like
>I had a vision of Pymtron going crazy and zapping the shit out of everyone
>called it, let's bring him in.
>oh shit, the vision was of him zapping everyone else in self defense after we angrily brought an army to his door step
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>>83374697
Someone just ell me so I don't have to read it, did Rhodes or Shulk die?
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>drinks

You're alcoholics

>>83374868

Also, Medusa, you're dragging your hair all over the floor
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>>83375291
SKRULLS LEAVE
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>>83375091
Maybe you should've given him new armor like he asked. You killed Rhodey, Tony
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>>83375293
>what is every event for the past 15 years
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>>83375300
I was counting that scene with Captain Hydra here
>>83374949
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>>83375288
Pretty much. I'm on her side for now, though I know she's gonna go full-on Minority Report eventually.
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>>83375127
she has a healing factor
and if it's not enough, you can boost it with gamma rays
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>>83374891
>Black Bolt wasn't invited to the after party
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>>83375288
She's a woman, women can't do anything wrong.
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>>83375273
rude

>>83375282
You do raise a fair point.
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>>83375288
She could have called Tony just to say that they bring his friend to fight Thanos, but outside of that she did nothing wrong.
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>>83375300
>>83374949
panel 4
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>>83374883

So, when did Tony get de-verted?
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>>83375301

>Spider-Man cover
>Not this shit again
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>>83375307
Yes
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>>83375307
Rhodey has a giant hole through his torso and is very, very dead. Shulk is going into cardiac arrest and is 99.9% dead.
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>>83375110
Sellout and proud.
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>>83375306
That's actually a good idea.
An anonymous poster on 4chan came up with a better justification for conflict than the actual event comic. Bendis should be ashamed.
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>>83375134
>Kamala's team
Pretty much anyone who wants to be on the winning side
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>>83375333
>You don't get to bring friends, Carol.
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>>83375307
They are dead and they die in the most cringe inducing ways possible. It honestly made me want to throw my computer out of a window.
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>>83375282
>No she didn't, she went with the Ultimates, A-Force and some Inhumans
And they behaved like rookies.
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>>83375325

He can watch it live at TORCHED.COM

>>83375338

when Secret Wars ended, just straight up ok
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>>83374981
Gamma Hate Monger Ultron when?
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>>83375338
Off-screen during the 8-month time-skip after Secret Wars
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>>83374883

>Dazzler making a No More Mutants Joke

I thought bendis was suposed to be a jew
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>>83375346
But Miles is on team Carol.
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>>83375091
>You stopped the homicidal alien overlord who wanted to steal the reality bending cube? But my friend died preventing this horrible incident? SATAN.
Tony you stupid
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>>83375299
You see a normal shadow on her shoulder.
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KCOR S'TEL
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>>83375362
I read the issue, they didn't
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>>83374748
who is that young lad with the eye thing and dog? pls tell me it isnt scotty? and why is hank a traitor to his people?
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This is so much worse than the first one, I never thought it would be possible but here we are, a fucking CW II that's 2 times more idiotic, incompetent and an all around failure of a book.

Fuck, i had no expectations whatsoever yet i'm still disappointed, fucking how.
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>>83375195

It was still stupid for Carol to go after Thanos with just her team. Ultimates or not, Thanos is a mofo. Should have gotten everyone first.
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>People seriously teaming up with Captain Dyke and her plan of punishing before it happens.
If they didn't make Tony so dumb it would be impossible to go with Carol, she is insane.
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>>83375362
Well they got away pretty lucky considering they fought fucking Thanos and took him down in two panels after Rhodey and She-Hulk died. The entire fight was weird it looked like the fight with thanos was just a backdrop just so Rhodey and She-Hulk get murdered and after thats happened Bendis went "and then they defeated Thanos whatever FOCUS ON MUH RHODEY NOW"
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>>83374883
Why didn't we actually see Hellstorm hitting on an annoyed Wanda? It would have been funnier than that dumb joke.
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>>83375392
Carol was the only playing leader, so their failure is on her.
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>>83375396
>and why is hank a traitor to his people?

Cuz he's a fuckup that won't stop fucking up.
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>>83375339
>Hey guys, this is my friend Miguel. He has a door to the future in his basement. He knows more about messing with the future than you, listen to him
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>>83375367
>Nova cover
D-Dick. Please man, not now. Don't come back now. Spare yourself.
YFW Dick turns into a blood thirsty monster who wants to kill everyone because he was corrupted by the door

BRAVO BENDIS YOU FUCKING HACK!
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>>83375113
Way to be a hypocrite illuminati number 1
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>>83375415
Cause that'd be sexist
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>>83374917

Oh Ulyses, would you look at that, turns out you're gay
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>>83375340
>>83375342
>>83375351
Good, War Machine was a waste of time and maybe with Jennifer dead it will motivate Banner to get off his ass.
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>>83375400
Regardless, the problem is that Tony is saying THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE AT ALL.
He's saying they should just ignore whatever the Precog says.
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>>83375373
Kamala is going to talk with him about
>You know, as minorities, and stuff, you should see the problem
And then its all over for Carol
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Who wins? Who is right?
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>all these marvel intern trying to push #Carol is right

Fuck off with your bait, everyone on /co/ hate Bendis, Carol will never be marvel wonder woman and inhumans will ever be as popular as x-men
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>>83375446
Then Ganke is gonna show up and be like
>#TeamFat
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>>83375071
Kobik, you failure.
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>>83375404
It would but the way its written it seems like Ulysses is only sharing the world ending futures. Now if they showed him having a vision of a teen who will grow up to destroy the world and Carol wanted to detain thelathe teen maybe we'd get somewhere but both visions were totally justifiable to stop
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So, why is this Inhuman kid such a big deal?
Superheroes have TIME MACHINES, and there've been dozens of precogs in the past that nobody ever seemed to care about. That's not even getting into the Mad Thinker and Reed's future math.
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>>83375424

>Laura's boot on Cap's neck

you won't trick me this time, you can make Taskmaster job to her but not goddamn Captain america
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>>83375396
It's not scott, it's an Inhuman. And Beast is there bcause storm kicked him out and he is trying to cure M-pox.
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>>83375463
But she is right.

This event is shit anyway.
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>>83375404
They shouldn't have pick Thanos for that, a less powerful vilain would have make more sense. the vilain should have been powerful but not cosmic tier.
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>>83375404
But this wasn't about punishing before it happened, this was about taking on a cosmic invader before he could get his shit together. She has yet to go off the deep end.

Tony has no reason to be sperging out about the precog part, they would have fought Thanos either way because he is bad news like the Celestial, he's just being a bitch because MUH BLACK FRIEND.

The whole comic and the justifications involved are retarded and if you still give Marvel money for comics you need to stop.
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wait didn't they met Ulysses in the fcbd issue?
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>>83374950
>>83375096
Yeah, this makes no sense. Someone would've almost certainly have come up with the idea to get say... Emma Frost or Jean Grey or Prof X to just ride through the prisons and say "recidivist, non recidivist, he did do it, he really didn't do it." That kinda thing.
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>>83374816
YES, IT'S PIXIE! BASED BENDIS!
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>>83375404
the thing is, Tony is equally idiotic
they don't have to pick between "arrest people before they even think about comitting a crime" and "let's give universal genocider Thanos the benefit of doubt and wait until he does something bad to arrest him"
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>>83375462
Carol is right.
Tony is basically arguing that we should ignore a valuable source of intel because his friend happened to die in a mission done based on it (even though the mission was a success and saved lives).
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>>83375424
>Strange in the war
I fucking hope he, the guy who can see the future at times, is on Tony's side, just to fuck it all.
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>>83375475
*Captain Hydra
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>>83375478

>And Beast is there bcause storm kicked him out and he is trying to cure M-pox.

knowing that idiot he'll end up making an even worse plague called the M&M-pox
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>>83375127
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>83375404
>plan of punishing before it happens.
So far they just made a team and waited for the threat. Nothing has been pre-crime punishment so far.
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>Butters and Fazekas left because of this garbage
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>>83375489
the FCBD issue happen at the end of this one.
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>>83374957

>That medusa hair sneaking on tony, shulk and jean grey

Is Medusa going to choke a bitch?
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I love how Tony's side is just "Use civilians as tunnel canaries"
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>>83375504

Still adjusting over here..
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>>83375475
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>>83375217
Whatever you say, Inhumong.
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>>83375462
Neither, because this entire situation is contrived and nonsensical. For fuck's sake you sheep stop playing into their terrible marketing.
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>>83375500
This. And they all understood the risks 100%. Including Rhodes.
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>>83375473
Because Bendis is a hack that doesn't know shit about the Marvel universe. Another precog seriously isn't that big a deal in this setting.
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>>83374976

In his defense, that's a terrible book that he's ignoring
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So Cap's still Hydra in this, right? Gonna read this with it in mind.
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>>83375127
>mfw
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>>83375223
I'd tick the Characters sitting around and eating box.
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>>83374976
This definetly takes place after Last Days of Magic
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>>83375127

This was a huge waste of time
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>>83375306
>>83375345
To be fair, in that case the situation would have been the opposite.
How could Carol's side look credible after their first mission actively following the visions ended up in a disaster caused by them?
It would have basically been "Yeah, we have seen we could turn the visions in self-fulfilling profecies, but let's follow them anyway"

There really isn't a situation that wouldn't make at least one side seem idiotic
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>>83374917
>Jean casually reading someone's mind without their consent
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>>83375434
That just means when War Machine stops being dead he will be more than Player 2 Iron Man.
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I don't know what annoys me more
>Strange not on the first war, which made sense for him to be involved
>Strange on this war, which makes no sense for he to be involved, especially against Carol
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>>83375581 see >>83375291
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Somone update the bingo pls
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>>83375463
Well, the thing is that she indeed was right, but I'm sure they should/would have planned the attack against Thanos better, and Carol should have said to Tony "Hey, Rhodes is coming along with us, we might need back-up, real talk, something really bad is happening unless we act."

Now Tony is gonna get so butthurt that this event will be literally "muh feels reeee etc" OVER SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN EASILY FIXED.

>>83375581
Kekked
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I guess the moral of Civil war 2 is that war happens when you replace all the smart competent people and replace it with minorities and women.
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It's shit, as most of us already knew it would be.

The only thing that irks me is the push Carol gets, this is some roman reigns-tier of bullshit.
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>>83375585
Carol's side would look credible because they still stopped the Celestial attack at the begining of the issue. They're still doing good, but it would be clear that Ulysses isn't as reliable as they thought.
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>>83375605
This push has been happening for like five years
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>>83375488
The only stuff I bought recently was Howard the Duck, and even then, I pirated before buying
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>>83375602
Not really, Tony Stark is a white man who's supposed to be one of the smartest men in the world, and he's the asshole that sets off the conflict over bullshit.
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>>83375590
>Strange on this war, which makes no sense for he to be involved, especially against Carol
I don't know man, some shit about Time being forcefully altered mumbo jumbo tiki tiki wakalaka jam jam, if you get my drift
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>>83375436
Really, I didn't see that. I mean, I am a bit of a Starkfag, but the way I saw the way Tony approaching the Precog was that it was wrong to use him on two levels. One is that they didn't know how the predictions came to be. It's kind of like trusting an AI with what it says when you don't know the programming of that AI. It might be true, but it's not always comfortable working with boundaries that you don't understand are created. The second is that not everything is as simple as bad guy appears to fuck shit up. It could be a lot more complicated than it first appears.

But I do understand why anons are taking Carol's side. It was so poorly explained that I can only offer an interpretation. Christ, who thought this was an okay idea?

Hell, I am disappointed that Tony didn't reference Greek prophecies. About how when people tried to change a threat that they knew little about, they actually made it come true. Though that would be too highbrow for Bendis.
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>>83375626
And it still annoys the shit out of me.
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Every character talks the same and the plot is retarded.

How and why does Bendis get paid?
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>>83375626
And in five years, no one's bought it
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>>83374981
It looks like Crystal, Rhodey, Jennifer and Steve are all looking at Spidey and wondering why the fuck he's eating at this time
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>>83375063

Thanos with guns seems like overkill/unecessary, especially considering he punches Rhodey's lights out
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>>83375631
If only the other smart competent men like Reed Richards are around.
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>>83375049

>she-hulk

Her name's Jennifer, Bendis.
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>>83374864
Did you read the free comic book day issue? Civil War II is Bendis at his most robotic. I believe he's moved on from wanting to be black to wanting to be a robot.
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>>83375644
Because people buy his books
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>>83375631
Stark is a honorary spic
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>>83375134

Bendis actually is succeeding at making me like and hate both sides equally at least? Tony's right, Ulysses is a total unknown quality. But Carol's right this was a mission that went wrong but they'd do the same thing (try to stop Thanos)

Really good art!
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>>83375655
They're probably wondering why he's even there in the first place. He isn't even an Avenger at the moment.
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>>83374883
I thought Tony was poorest of all poorfags?
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>>83375462

>peter siding with carol

Fuck's sake isn't he someone who believes in second chances and convincing people to do the right thing
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>>83375644
Retards still buy his books, believe it or not, and sadly there's way too many retarded /co/mrades now.
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>>83375063

>THANOS, YOU ARE UNDER ARREST
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So it's going to start with Carol in the right then slowly she'll become the mustache twirling villain?
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>>83375673
>I believe he's moved on from wanting to be black to wanting to be a robot.

Some kind of Brobot?
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Bendis: I created a black Spider-Man. Therefore it's okay to kill off black Iron Man.
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>>83375692
Yup. And she will take girls away from their moms
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>>83375680
Tony has a point, but instead of arguing "we shold be cautious" he argues "let's ignore everything he says and let things go as they're supposed to even if it means thousands die"
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>>83374748
>we can help you
>this is a good thing
that's some "you're a big guy. for you"level of dialogue.
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>>83375026
Why the fuck is Maria Hill there like she's even part of the Ultimates? She is completely unaffiliated with them
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It's not a Civil War without a dead black guy.
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>>83375675
But that's because his books get pushed by marketing. Which is why they get bought. Which means he's popular, so they market him.

So why does Marvel even bother with the cyclical money hole instead of advertising good books and hiring non-hacks for events?
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>>83375699

>But Mr Bendis Hobie Brown was black Spider-Man before miles wa-
>THAT DOESN'T COUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNT!!!
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Why is beast hanging out with the inhuman, is this a diplomatic thing or a retcon?
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>>83375087
Can't sustain a solo series.

Not even a MCU cameo or mention on Netflix.

A-Force's sales are weak.

B List is being generous.
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I hated the original Civil War. But this mess makes it look like the greatest comic ever written.
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>>83375644
he can crap out ten scripts a fortnight, which is cheaper than paying ten writers to crap out one script each
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>>83375730
I'm afraid you're wrong, Hobie Brown as Spider-Man only happened last year
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>>83375699
Black iron girl who's disabled so she needs to use the suit all the time that's a master hacker who graduated STEM when?
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>>83375699
It sure is, that's why Coates signed off on this.
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>>83375038
>Hill still in charge
One would think she'd be sent to Antarctic listening post by now.
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>>83375436
That team had no business ambushing Thanos without calling for backup. That was a terrible move.

With that being said, Tony should at least understand that people die and not flip out about it. Given all the stuff he pulled in Illuminati and Road to Secret War.

>>83375638
I think you're right. Accuracy, Resolution, Precision, Updating-- these are all very important, so he was right. Good. But you are just gonna start trusting him blindly?

I have a feeling She-hulk was saying that the future wasn't Ulysseys. I don't think she meant Tony. How can the future belong to Tony? It makes more sense that if you do everything Ulyssey's says to change the future then its his future.

Oh well.

It was a decent issue that set up the conflict but I didn't realize how much I didn't like bendis and how lowest common denominator his writing was.
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>>83375684
but on the other hand UNCLE BEN NOOOOO
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>>83375735
Beast is looking for a cure to the M-Pox, and is smart enough to know that the Inhumans don't hate mutants and that they'll help him.
The rest of the X-Men just hate Inhumans because they blame the entire species for the actions of one guy (hypocrites).
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>>83375134
I can't support any Captain Marvel that's not Genis, Monica, or Billy Batson.
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>>83375735
read uncanny X-men 600. He got kicked out, and he is trying to cure M-pox using the Inhuman's tech and terrigen.
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>>83374890
>>83375248
>>83375555
>>83375190
>>83375195
>>83375404
>>83375644
Typical anti-Bendis brigade. You guys are the worst of the worst. Always crying because Marvels best writer is reinvigorating comics with his top selling stories. I bet you guys are the same idiots crying about the X-men too. Well too bad, his X-men run is highly praised everywhere else like reddit, and will go down as one of the best. Issue 600 took old and boring characters and reinvigorated them into a new progressive age. You guys need to catch up instead of staying stuck in the past.

And there is nothing you can do to stop the Bendis train, lol.
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>>83375134

Well, obviously
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>>83375725
Because when they've advertised the good books, they haven't sold
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>>83375724

Yeah but that also had a dead Atlantean too.

>>83375735

None of the X-Men want his blue ass/he got fed up with whatever MYSTERIOUS EVENT caused the M-pox

>>83375746

Hobie posed as Spider-Man waaaaaaaaaaaaay back before Bendis ever smelled a Spider-Man book
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>>83375749
Hey, disabled people can make some fun techno heroes, you just need a cool design. Plus its a fucking pausible origin story.

The real problem is that you would need good writting
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>>83374868
>Nazi Hydra Cap
>Lets go help clean up the streets, and by that I mean get rid of the filthy Jews and niggers. Hail Hydra!
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>>83375777
Wait Bendis? The writer?
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>>83374917
"Mind hive"
Fucking Bendis'.
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>>83375751
She only has the appearance of being in charge, she's currently on trial-in-secret for what happened in Pleasant Hill.
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>>83375590
I think Strange just saw the Hulk and was like
>You know, I like my hands, so I will join his side
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>>83375749
showed up a couple weeks ago building her own war machine armor in her dorm room

so she's not disabled or a graduate, but she is black, a hacker, and a STEM student
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>>83374697
>I was only nine years old
>I loved Bendis so much, I owned all his comics and merchandise
>I pray to Bendis every night, thanking him for the dialogue I have been given
>"Bendis is love", I say, "Bendis is life"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>He is obviously jealous of my devotion to Bendis
>I respond "I'm a faggot?"
>He says "Yes, you're a faggot"
>I say "But I'm not gay"
>He says "I meant faggot as a generic insult, not to call you gay"
>I repond "It's still pretty homophobic"
>He punches me and sends me to my room
>I am crying now, because I wasn't finished talking
>I go into my bed and it is very cold
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I keep feeling a warmth moving towards me for 5 panels
>I feel something touch me
>2 page spread
>It's Bendis
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear, "Wanna read my latest comic?"
>"Your latest comic?"
>"Yes"
>"You came to my room to show me your latest comic?"
>"Why else would I come?"
>"I thought you were gonna have your way with me"
>"You're 9 years old, anyone who could possibly think that would be twisted freak"
>"A twisted freak?"
>"Yes"
>"Can I just read the comic?"
>"Go ahead"
>He grabs me with his chubby nerd hands and puts me on my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I open the comic for Bendis
>He wasted several pages on characters eating and doing nothing
>It hurts so much, but I do it for Bendis
>I can feel my brain tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please Bendis
>He laughs a mighty laugh as he ignores established continuity
>My dad walks in
>Bendis looks him deep in the eyes and says, "It's all over now"
>"Who the fuck are you? I'm calling the cops!"
>"...you were suposed to say "It's over now?""
>"Fuck you, what are you doing with my son?"
>"You're no fun"
>Bendis breaks all the toys in my room and drops his mic
Bendis is love, Bendis is life
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>>83374816
>>83374834
>Nico and Pixie are sorcerers too
Strange only invited people he likes, I see.
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>>83375830
What really?
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>>83375192
This whole even will turn out to have been a vision that Ulysses is having, it'll end with him keeping his mouth shut and Thanis getting defeated without any casualties.
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>>83375684
I think he'd side with the initial premise of "we use it to stop major threats" but once when it's smaller level stuff and arresting people before they even commit the crime he'd bounce
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>>83375801
>Lets clean the streets
>Punches Kamala and Morales
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>>83374748
What is Reader even doing there? Why did so many Inhumans show up for this one guy?
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>>83375255
them not drinking booze is kind of a big fucking deal mind wipe or no.
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so i noticed they left out jen dying via tit missle
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>celestial come to earth
>Nobody knows why

Geez, maybe is because mutants are dying again, dont you think ?
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>>83375847
>it'll end with him keeping his mouth shut and Thanis getting defeated without any casualties.
You mean Thanos stealing the Cosmic Cube because nobody knows he's gonna be there, then killing a bunch of people, right?
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>>83375370
>Brings back Dazzler
>Jubilee still rotting in obscurity
Best waifus are just made to suffer because of that bald Jewish hack Bendis
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Team tony is the right call this time.

You have no idea if ulysses is looking into possible futures, alternate timelines, definite futures.

for all you know theres a causality loop and acting to prevent the future causes it.

Relying on him is not just stupid but flawed on every level.

Carol is right to use him for intel but acting like his word is law is dangerous and got rhodes killed because Ya'll went off on a mission half cocked.
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>>83374868
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>>83375844
yeah, in the invincible iron-man book.

everyone cracked up laughing because it was so blatant Rhodey will die and she'll be the new War Machine

I'd post the page but I can't remember her name and google isn't helping.
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Why is everybody in this issue acting so bitter?
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>>83375318
>I didn't read Infinity: the post
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>>83375875
No, because alpha fight/ultimates would have done their Job and attack thanos when he arrived earth.

This is just age of ultron all over again
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>>83374868
>Who gave us the heads-up on this How did we know it was coming?
Sam Nova is the last person who should be asking that question, he's an idiot, the thought wouldn't even occur to him.
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>>83375901
>for all you know theres a causality loop and acting to prevent the future causes it.
That is never brought up in this story as an argument at all
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>>83375905
>tfw made it up a character that will make up the most diversity points a few minutes as a joke
>post it here
>it actually exists

lol
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>>83374908
Bendis can't even keep his own continuity straight why did you expect him to pay attention to other books?
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>>83375905
This one?
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>>83375462
Anyone who cares aneough about this event to pick a side is retarded and half of everything that is wrong with the industry.

You guys should focus on writting a good story, instead of trying to sell it with shock value.

But I must admit that you guys picked good artists.
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>>83375853
They only needed to pay him to get his help.

>Why did so many Inhumans show up for this one guy?

in story, probably because they didn't know what he could do. Out of story, just to show off the cast, if anthing showing up with that many people would scare him more.
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>>83375874
We don't actually know if it's a Celestial, nobody knew what it was
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>>83375091
Fucking hell Tony for a super genius you're not that bright
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>>83375367
>dat steve rogers #4 cover
"Ugh fucking worthless degenerates getting their spit all over me. I wish I was home on /r/hydra right now."
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>>83374816
Who's the guy with the dog?
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God fucking dammit

Tony is marvel germany.
This is the second war he is starting and he is on the wrong side again.
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>>83375950
that's the one, Riri Williams
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>>83375901
Team Tony is arguing that you should ignore a valuable source of intel. He's saying they shouldn't have gone after Thanos at all, even though Thanos is a threat to the entire universe.
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>>83375285
Wow, you're right. I think she's supposed to have put a shirt on between panels but the colorist just colored her naked body like the shirt
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>>83375462
Marvel wins. People who don't spend money on this comic are right.
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>>83375964
Strange is the one that says that is a celestial destroyer
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>>83375994
>>83375950

Would be hilarious if someone stole it from her
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>>83375993
>The wrong side.

Implying fighting against a Nazi and his followers is wrong.
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>>83375223
Somebody update the Bingo please >>83375272
. I'd do it myself but I'm on my phone.
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>>83375995
It's going to be like the first Civil War, Carol is obviously right but will do dumb, evil shit so it's "balanced."
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>>83376012
But in this page >>83374883 they say they don't know what it is
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>>83375995
thanos is a pretty high level threat, why just go in with the ultimates + Rhodey and She hulk, thats a piss weak effort.

I'm not saying they should ignore all intel, they should just treat it as sketchy intel, use a measure of scrutiny.
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>>83375684
Well he and Carol were a thing a few years back.

That and he'd side with her because Tony's taking everything from him. MJ, his glory for saving the day, Miles, etc.
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>>83375434
Can we get an All New, All Different She Hulk please?

If we have to stomach Whor & Sam Wilson as Cap, can we get a Latina hottie or a Buxom Black Bamazon to take over for the boring lawyer lady?
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>>83376030
Is Bendis
He cant keep up with his own continuity
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>>83374834
>>83374848
>>83374868
Hellstrom a cute. They're not going to use him after this, are they?
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>>83376054
Asian She-hulk incoming
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>>83376038
>thanos is a pretty high level threat, why just go in with the ultimates + Rhodey and She hulk, thats a piss weak effort.
That's irrelevant. Doing something about a threat (and succeeding I should point out) is better than Tony's idea of doing nothing.
Just because the intel came from a precog doesn't mean it should be ignored. Worst case scenario, the precog is wrong and Thanos never comes.
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>>83375049

>We need a Gamma specialist

HEY

HEY GUYS

I'M A GAMMA SPECIALIST

BETTER THAN BANNER TOO

HELLO?

I DON'T WANT TO ROB BANKS ANYMORE

I HAVE A PHD
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>>83376044
See what I mean.
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>>83376064
Hellcat patsy walkee issue 9 in august.

Expect man hating comments from that
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>>83375841

Pixie was even up for Sorcerer Supreme training at one point, and specializes in dimensional teleporting magic.

But it's Bendis, so we can ignore that.
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>>83376081
and Blue Marvel's in the background of the Triskelion shot.
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>>83375049
WAIT A MINUTE
Why hasn't She-Hulk turned back into Jennifer Walters?
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>>83376069
No way, it'd have to be a new minority. Maybe an indian, dot or feather doesn't matter.
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>>83375004
>>83375013
Oh god... Bendis really is going to Breaking Dawn Part 2 us, isn't he?

>>83375462
The one that doesn't have a neo-nazi sleeper and two of its other members benched right out the gate, obviously

Seriously, it's kind of ridiculous how much Bendis has stacked the deck against Carol
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>>83376073
No him but man why are you even picking sides, this is an awful event anyway
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>>83376087
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>>83374891
So... why was Homer in the kitchen while everyone else was partying? Is he Medusa's waifu?
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>>83376108

Because the She Hulk state is the only thing keeping her alive, if she reverted to human the trauma would kill her?
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>>83375210
MCU references, Rhodey's spine was kill
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>>83376115
I'm not picking sides, I'm pointing out why Tony is being a whiny idiot
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So the fight isn't even over the moral issues of locking up people before they commit crimes, but rather because Rhodey died fighting, something he risks every day being War Machine? And it's not like he wouldn't have fought Thanos if he didn't know he was coming.
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>>83375127
>what good will paddles do?
I mean, they have a point, unless she suddenly goes V-tac or v-fib.
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>>83376114
C'mon, she's got a movie to hype. 2019 isn't that far away...
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>>83376082

>stop buying gifts for my wife's son, dammit
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>>83376135
But if she's unconcious doesn't she switch back into Jen automatically?

>>83376136
That's pushing it
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>>83374917
Is she making him gay? Did she make She-Hulk gay just now?
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>>83375210
When does Bendis ignore his own continuity?
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>>83376136

Every bone in his body turned into elmer's glue with that punch, someone shoop captain falcon's helmet on Thanos there.
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>>83376138
Is Bendis, he writes characters as they were ignorants.

Is normal for him to ignore any other characterization of iron man for the sake of making him look like a villain in this
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Where's black bolt?
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>>83375134
I'm team "Get Bendis blacklisted" but as I think about it, that's a general consensus rather than a team.
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>>83375127
>Lawyer being pro pre-cog
What ever happened to due process, Jennifer? What if the Hulk was going to commit an atrocious rampage, and the pre-cog cops decided the best course of action was to shoot him into space?
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>>83376142
I know, out of all the ways they could have set up the conflict, they had to do it in the dumbest one.
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okay here's a breakdown for exactly why Carol is retarded

Precog/seeing the future is objectively flawed. Perception is reality, the moment something is observed it becomes absolute hence why you can't change the past. (time travel is simply relocating the "present" to a later point to observe it differently you still can't change anything that comes before the period you are observing). If a person could see the actual future then the future would become absolute and thus unchangeable. This leaves two possibilities: it'll happen no matter what you do or the person can't see the future but rather possibilities

With this principle in mind carol just acted on the POSSIBILITY of Thanos attacking earth. in that time frame between whenever the attack would've happened and the present they could've done a plethora of things to attain a different possible outcome but instead Carol chooses to punish, based on a POSSIBILITY.

Here's an example. an officer shows up on your yard one day and arrests you for molesting your daughter. Your daughter has yet to be born and the mere notion of hearing you would molest your daughter alone has deterred you from ever doing it but they take you to jail any because that's the possibility they saw. Is that fair?

Carol is objectively wrong, and her side is invalid. there's no way you can take this civil war seriously.
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>>83374937
>are you exclusive to the Inhumans?
Ahahahaha
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>>83375901
This.

>>83375995
And this. It isn't just acting on one piece of intel. It is thinking it all through. People often substitute hard questions for easier ones when they try and decide probabilities and make predicitions. Our brains get screwy. Carol was having trouble with "can we stop thanos?" and she decided that she could find/fight thanos. Two different things. It was a terrible idea.

Had she called Iron Man they could've gotten a team together. The whole point of the first fight was to show what a good team can do. She just decided her team of sub Thor/ Sub Hulks could take on Thanos cause she got intel. That's a bad decision. She didn't kill Rhodey. But she exercised terrible decision making.
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>>83376170
Right now

>is a celestial destroyer
>we dont know what that thing was
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>>83376153
I wouldn't say so, Hulk is a survival mechanism, why would she revert if she's in danger?
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>>83376189
Carol hasn't gone full-on Minority Report yet, as far as Jen knows, Ulysses is just a useful source of intel to be used to stop Thanos and random Celestial attacks (which is bad according to Tony).
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>>83376189
Isn't she the District Atty of NYC?

She's getting kinda authoritarian...
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>>83376153
>But if she's unconcious doesn't she switch back into Jen automatically?

Never seen that happened with her or the Hulk when injured, generally they remain hulked out so they can heal, hell I think in one case banner got critically wounded once and hulking out was all that was keeping him alive.
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who the fuck is the girl in short shorts that was all beat up.
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>>83376184
He isn't being pushed with the of the inhumans. taking his crown, killing his marriage , was all to get him out of the way.
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>>83376231

I think you mean Miss America Chavez
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>>83376231

Miss America, good job yelling at a kid BTW Tony.
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>>83376204
Yeah but I mean, so far all they've used it for is to be ready for incoming threats, which happened.
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>>83376184
running his swanky bar and having the time of his life
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>>83376204
Here's why you're retarded: Thanos was coming so she showed up to stop him. He came, she stopped him.
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>>83376204
>With this principle in mind carol just acted on the POSSIBILITY of Thanos attacking earth. in that time frame between whenever the attack would've happened and the present they could've done a plethora of things to attain a different possible outcome but instead Carol chooses to punish, based on a POSSIBILITY.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand your logic here. Are you saying Carol should have ignored Thanos and let him do as he pleases? Thanos IS a threat, he's killed countless billions before, he's not an innocent that hasn't done anything wrong yet.
Worst case scenario, the team goes to where Thanos is supposed to be and he doesn't show up. Best case scenario they stop Thanos.

You're right about the Minority Report aspect which will come in later issues, but so far the heroes have been right to act on Ulysses' intel.
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>>83375004
Does Homer sleep in the same room as Medusa and Johnny?
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>>83376226
dont know why she is hurt dident she take a rocket to the chest im pretty certain that hulks have shrugged off worse or her plot armor ran thin and she dident make her save.
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>>83375134
I'm team Tony in the sense stark is my favorite marvel character but he's wrong here. Also this isn't tony at all really.

why the fuck is this event happening anyway?
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SOMEONE POST THE UPDATED BINGO. IT'S THE ONLY REASON WE ARE ALL HERE
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>>83374697
Did nitro blow himself up again, or is it like muh MCU where Bucky killed Howard stark
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>>83375210
Free space obviously.
Somebody redo this in a way that doesn't look like lazy MS Paint scribbles
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>>83376339

Thanos rockets deal mega damage
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>Intercepting Thanos with a small squad of heroes
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>>83376214
>She didn't kill Rhodey.
She sort of did, but it has nothing to do with listening to the precog, and everything to do with rushing to face Thanos with no real plan.
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So... Thanos is defeated in a couple of panels by a team of knockoff superheroes, with only a couple of them dying? Defeated and captured? And he came to Earth undercover to hide from the main ones?
I thought he was a big deal.
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>>83376372
They thought he'd fuck himself over again
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>>83376365
it wasn't Thanos rocket. It was a Rocket from Rhodey
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>Someone who wasn't an inhuman precog gave us intel that Thanos was on his way to steal a cosmic cube and Rhodey died after he volunteered to stop him
>What a brave thing he did

>The inhuman precog who predicted the giant monster that attack YESTERDAY told us Thanos was coming to steal a cosmic cube and Rhodey died after he volunteered to stop him
>OMG YOU ARE A MONSTER YOU KILLED RHODEY AND THIS IS NO WAY ANTOINE ELSE FAULT WE ARE A CIVIL WAR NOW HOW COULD CAROL YOU SHITLORDS KILLED RHODEY
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>>83376408

>It was a Rocket from Rhodey

What.
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>>83376204
but you can't observe the past so how can you claim that the past is unchangeable? the past is a volatile experience that assumes a form the moment of its evocation, what's more is that the past can't be shown if we're to assume that perception precedes reality. i'm not saying it's reasonable to assume that a prediction is anything more than a contingency deviated by causal variables that we have no access to (and probably won't other than by experience itself), but once an announcement for a future is 'made' then an aticipation begins to fester, one that prepares perception by offering a receipt on what to expect. both tony and carol have good points in that regard, and carol is inured in a kantian present-future, where the future is recognized as a potential situation because we have partially lived it, future events all will have been possible in that sense, and that notion comes from the way we construct the past too.
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>>83376372
Still a better plan than Tony "Let's just ignore the precog whose saved our assed before" Stark. If it were up to him Thanos would have taken the Cosmic Cube and unleashed Hell on Earth.
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And to think I was on Team Tony beforehand. Who /carol/ here?
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>>83375071
Sending Rhodey against Thanos was pretty retarded to begin with. If you know Thanos is on Earth beforehand, you send your celestial heroes. You don't need to be a genius to do that.
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>>83376423
Well put. This whole set-up is stupid.
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>>83376429
Rhodey wanted to shoot a Rocket at Thanos but got distracted by anthoer hero (dunno who) the Rocket flew right into her tit and exploded.
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>>83376189
Because then they would send him cheesy movies, the worst they could find...
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>>83376393
That's because Bendis's only reason for having Thanos there was to kill someone off to create story conflict.

After Thanos killed someone, he's not important to the story anymore, so he's defeated basically off panel with no fanfare by some b-listers because fuck you.
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>>83376473
Rhodey volunteered
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>/co/ is going to be filled with #Carolwasright and smug pictures for months
>everyone is going to jump on worst "girl"s dick
I want off the Bendis train
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>>83375127
>It's our future, not his.
...the fuck? I don't get this line.
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>>83375285
hahahaha
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>>83376345
>why the fuck is this event happening anyway?
they openly admit Civil War II is something they cobbled together in a couple months to milk a bit of extra cash from the movie. if you read the interviews it's almost impressive how few fucks they give
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>>83376231
Some timespace/reality hopping skank. Nobody important
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>>83376393
>>83376479

The Ultimates were there. They're C-listers, but also technically the strongest Avengers team power level-wise.
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>>83374780
Psh, just have Miles Venom Blast it.
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>>83376512
Blame Bendis for completely failing at giving Tony Stark as reasonable motivation.
It's weird, Bendis writes Tony's book, you'd think he'd be the do-no-wrong Gary Stu.
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>>83376513
Tony doesn't deserve a future
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>>83375131
Yeah, but they literally knew it was Thanos beforehand and send in a guy in a metal suit. If they had the luxury of planning, they should've summoned heavy hitters, like at the begining of this issue.
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You are all been play out, in the first civil war it made sense the registration and no registration.

Here Bendis is making Carol right by default, you cant defend Tony because he has nothing in his favour and Bendis know this, since Marvel wants Carol to be their female lead they will make her look like the good side in this.

So yeah Carol is right because the story is shit.
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>>83376513
It's gonna be revealed she's talking about the precog
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>>83376432
the past is observably mutable in Marvel
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>>83376535
Yeah, but isn't it confusing to have a villain you're setting up to be endgame of your series of movies just straight up beaten like a chump in a hero vs. hero event?
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>>83376479
>Thanos defeated off panel by B listers
>Not having Unbeatable Squirrel Girl defeat Thanos single handed and be the last hero standing

ONE JOB, BENDIS
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>>83374868
BENDIIIIIIIIS
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>>83375644
It says "Civil War" on the cover. People will buy this book just for that.
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>>83376557
Again, that's irrelevant, especially since it's not brought up in-universe and because the plan worked, Thanos was stopped.
Tony wouldn't have planned at all, he would have just ignored Ulysses and let Thanos do whatever he wants.
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>>83376566
Carol will be cloning Thor and building negative-zone Gitmos by issue 3.
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>>83376589

Unless it wasn't REALLY thanos!
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How can Carol be right if the future can be change in marvel ?

Examples: Cable, days of future past, 2099, all future timelines that in a way or another are no going to happen 616
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>>83375102

YOU

L I T E R A L L Y

DIDN'T TELL THEM THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN TONY

IN FACT, THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED

THERE WAS A STRAIGHTFORWARD THREAT THAT WAS HANDLED EASILY, IF ANYTHING THE PROBLEM WAS A LACK OF PEOPLE

Also, is the name Ulysses gonna be some hack attempt at symbolism?
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>>83376648
I just want to see the face of some kid excited after seeing a marvel movie and then reading this shit.
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>>83376087
Well shit.
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>>83376667
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>>83375806
Yes, Bendis. The guy who writes comics.
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>>83376204
Thanos is just as much of a threat as the giant space man they fought right before and his very existence is a threat to the universe, she has yet to do any minority report shit yet which is what you are talking about
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>>83376680
No kid reads comics
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>>83376667
She can be right precisely because the future can change. By being told what's supposed to happen, they can take steps to MAKE SURE it doesn't happen.
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>>83376215
>Impling anyone listens to strange
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>>83376679
>DIDN'T TELL THEM THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN TONY
You're right. Tony is trying to pull the "I told you so" card way too early. Carol hasn't gone Minority Report yet, he's shitting on Carol even though in this partcular instance she did the right thing.
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>>83375091

Wouldn't be any flavor of Civil War without Tony going full retard!
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>>83374697

Wait, what, the setup is basically Iron Man and Carol disagreeing about this one guy?

I mean the first Civil War atleast had like, ideological differences, this is like a B-plot or something. So are they gonna start punching eachother in the face now?

>hamfisted attempts at trying to make it about futurism and shit
>oooh fight for our future Carol

No, fuck you
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>>83376087
>Marvel shitting on Hellstrom
For what reason? Seriously, he's one of the most likable characters out there.
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>>83376679
>Also, is the name Ulysses gonna be some hack attempt at symbolism?
yes
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>>83376285
They used it once with a non thinking creature that could only destroy. with the knowledge of a "possible" attack from Thanos, an entity that can think, there were plenty of ways they could've handled the situation, like prepping earth for the attack like they did with the celestial in first place. Instead she preemptively attacked killing 2 people because of something that COULD'VE happened. She's an idiot.

>>83376300
>Thanos was coming so she showed up to stop him.
>was coming, had not yet arrived in a possibility that could've been changed by the wind beneath a butterflies wings
She didn't think about detouring the possible outcome, instead she took the most rash way of dealing with it and preemptively punished based on a possibility with her own force. She took it upon herself to govern fucking reality.

>>83376320
>I'm sorry, but I don't understand your logic here. Are you saying Carol should have ignored Thanos and let him do as he pleases?
no, she should've chosen a more favorable possibility. "precog" is a great asset to have, but when you realize you have options. She could've mounted one hell of a defense to kick Thanos' ass back to whence he came with the knowledge of that possibility, but instead she took the possibility as an absolute and decided to punish, you don't do that. North Korea could POSSIBLY attack, that doesn't mean you attack North Korea for POSSIBLY attacking you. You seek way to negate that possibility.

Like tony said, A giant celestial being of death randomly appearing is an easy call because there are only two possibilities

>it destroys you
>it doesn't

When it comes to things with a mind it's a different story as you that possibility can be changed in many different ways.

>>83376432
>but you can't observe the past so how can you claim that the past is unchangeable?
The fact that you have already observed it is what makes the past the past. The moment you truely observe something that's it. (1/2)
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>>83376774
Bendis does it alot, have characters randomly shit on someone else. Guess he sees it as part of his whole 'realistic conversation' writing style
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>Thanos is coming
>don't even tell all the heroes about it
>don't dogpile him with all the strongest dudes available
Tony is pissed for all the wrong reasons. That was so retarded.

The real problem was that Carol forgot that Warmachine doesn't have as much plot armor as Captain America and can't actually manfight Thanos.
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>>83374748
who is the qt on the left and is there porn of her?
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>>83376653
>he would have just ignored Ulysses and let Thanos do whatever he wants
That's not what Tony said. It sounds like he would've done more research before attacking, not ignore the warning.
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>>83376473
Medusa
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>>83376820
Female SubZero with a dyke haircut?
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>>83376809
Yeah, but if he's appearing in Hellcat, then it's not just Bendis.
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>>83376810

An event comic where each character is actually cognizant of how much plot armor they have would be pretty hilarious tbqh
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>>83376785
Yeah, I'm sure Earth would be much better off if Thanos had slaughtered a bunch of scientists and made off with a cosmic cube.
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>>83376785
>no, she should've chosen a more favorable possibility. "precog" is a great asset to have, but when you realize you have options. She could've mounted one hell of a defense to kick Thanos' ass back to whence he came with the knowledge of that possibility, but instead she took the possibility as an absolute and decided to punish, you don't do that. North Korea could POSSIBLY attack, that doesn't mean you attack North Korea for POSSIBLY attacking you. You seek way to negate that possibility.
That's a terrible analogy. Carol didn't pre-emptively attack Thanos, they went to a place where they were told Thanos was gonna be. There was no way to negate the possibility of Thanos being there.
Therre is no difference between this and the Celestial Destroyer, in this situation there are also 2 possibilities
>Thanos shows up and wrecks havoc
>Thanos doesn't show up

And what do you mean "punish"? The intention was to stop an active threat. You're not making any sense.
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>>83375434
Where the fuck is banner anyways? Have they explained where he is in cho-hulk?
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>>83376827
That's not what Tony is saying at all.
He isn't mad at Carol for not doing a proper plan, she's mad at Carol for attacking Thanos in the first place.
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>>83376679
Edipo would be too obvious
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>>83374816
WHAT THE DICK? Singularity looks far too old.
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>>83375063
>Earth Avengers
As opposed to...
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>>83376432
(2/2) look to the thing to the right of you, you cannot "unlook" at that thing. you've absolutely looked at that thing no matter what you do. that is to say you no longer have the ability to create reality where you didn't look at that thing. this is the past. an already observed outcome. The present is the moment in which you observe something and make it absolute. In order to see the future you would have to truely observe it thus making it absolute. If it's not absolute then you can only see possibilities and thus your "precog" is no better than good intel, and should be treated as such.
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>>83377002

SPACE Avengers!
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>tfw you are a black superhero and still get killed so marvel can trade up on diversity points again
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>>83376820
Iso, and there is barely normal fan art
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>>83377002
space cops
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>>83374890
Tony is holding a soda can when he toasts. I know it's hard, but try looking at the pictures at the same time you read the words.
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>>83374780
What the shitcocking fuckmong are those F22 looking aircraft doing there?
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>>83377018
>you no longer have the ability to create reality where you didn't look at that thing.
in Marvel, that is untrue
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>>83375134
garbage. this is one of those events where someone acts like a moron to advance the plot. In this case it's one of the smartest humans alive acting like a moron. If Carol and company had let Thanos do whatever with no interference everyone would be dead. again.
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>>83377063
flying so low even.
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2 things

Carol id nothing wrong

This inhuman guy is a worst version of Destiny, Mystique's scissoring friend. His precognitive powers dont seem worthy of a civil war to me, many mutants have had that power.
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>>83375134
team tony. it isnt the future ulysess sees, but a possible future like Tony said. because of things like them stopping Thanos. So a possible future could mean anything. Hell, does Ulysess even know how much time there is between the visions he sees and now? #TEAMTONY

Also, do some people already have Bingo?
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>>83375131

I know Thanos is a jobber of all kinds, but Carol really did send the worst possible people to fight Thanos. Even though the event is stupid in the first place, Tony does have the right to be angry as Carol sent his friends on a suicide mission.
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>>83376373
fucking what? you moron
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>>83374816
So... somehow these people got teleported. I can buy that. But a lot of them won't like it if they're alone with a certain universal force.
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>>83377084
>implying Bendis care about continuity
Anon, the new guy is the first pecog who has ever existed
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>>83377096

Seriously, why the fuck would you take Rhodey to fight fucking Thanos? If even She-Hulk got her shit pushed in, he had no business being there.
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>>83376434
I was on team Carol from the beginning, because she doesn't let pesky things like "morality" get in her way.
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>>83374908
Maybe this takes place after that story?! Not all Marvel books take place at exactly the same time. Use some logic and don't expect to have your hand held all the time when you read.
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>>83377096
>Tony does have the right to be angry as Carol sent his friends on a suicide mission.

1 dead, 1 critically injured, no civilian casualties and they put Thanos in custody.

I call that a win
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>>83377096
Tony has no right, because if it had been up to Tony nobody would have gone after Thanos at all. Not to mention, Rhodey volunteered.
More importantly, Tony doesn't use the "the team you brought sucked" or "you should have called me" argument, so it's clear that in-universe we're meant to assume that Carol did the best she could with the time she had and that the team she brought was enough (they did stop Thanos after all).
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>Characters who has activel used the ability to see the future going against Carol

I reall hope they find a way to justify this, but Carol will need to do something very stupid, and that will be shit.
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>>83374917
>Go Buckeyes
When they're good everyone else is terrible. Fuck this guy. Should have made him a Cornhusker.
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>>83377155
Yeah, by Tony's logic, World War II was a mistake because American soldiers died.
>MY FRIEND DIED IN NORMANDY! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT ROOSEVELT! YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE KILLED HIM YOURSELF!
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>>83377018
an outcome isn't the past, it's the monad of the thing itself, its 'fulfilled' or processural development in the now insofar as it is in presence, at least when we're talking about a present object. for all we know, there is no such thing as continuity because the past is simply not observable, you experience the symbolic gestation of what we've come to call the past because we lack a better understanding for the physis (all there is) of the moment, it's logically necessary (and i mean this as a crutch) to assume that something must also have been in order for there to be a is being and a will be. historical time is a reproduction of an image, not a flow of uninterrupted congruity stemming from an original point, we just know how to think in historical terms, in images and their continuation and duplication. when you think of the past, you think of representing the past, which marks it as the past, not as the thing itself, rather just its likeness, what you believe it should have looked like in the now.
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God, what a piece of shit book.

And I counted 6 double page spreads. That means roughly 1/3 of the book is dedicated to them. Bendis is so fucking lazy.
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>>83376785
To be fair, Thanos showing up means trouble in 101% of the cases.
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>>83377130
>Big baddie comes to fight
>Loads of gender and race equality on the task force
>Black guy still the first one to die
>Then the lawyer dies

Sounds like a typical Hollywood Jewish comedy movie
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>>83377170
You still mad?
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>>83374748
two pages in and already a mark off the bingo chard. Good fuck
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>>83377130
>why the fuck would you take Rhodey to fight fucking Thanos?
BECAUSE HE VOLUNTEERED
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>>83377219
Bendis isn't lazy, he executive produces the powers tv show while writing anywhere from 4 to 6 books a month.
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>>83377060

You are correct about Tony, but Carol is a drunk, too, and is clearly holding champagne.
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>>83374748
>We're the Inhumans. Except for these two guys to my left, they're just my boytoys.
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It's obvious Carol will fuck it up.
Kamala is against her.
Strange, who is usually neutral, seems to be with Tony.

She is going to cook some innocent alive or some shit. Right now it just makes no sense
>Having someone in your team who could have literally stopped Stamford from ever happening
>Wah! Don't stare at the future

She needs to fuck up
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>>83377254
Captain Hydra volunteered in the army many times and got refused many times.
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>>83377197
>there is no such thing as continuity because the past is simply not observable
it is in Marvel
>>83376586

would you and your friend please actually read comics and not just shitpost
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>>83377289
i'm not shitposting, relax, i was interested in developing a conversation, and i wasn't accounting for marvel's notion of time
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>>83374949
>Is it because he's an Inhuman?
No, it's because he's Latino.
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>>83376865
>Yeah, I'm sure Earth would be much better off if Thanos had slaughtered a bunch of scientists and made off with a cosmic cube.
It'd of been better off if they had everyone defend the place thanos could've attacked and still subdued him the moment of his attack instead of mobilizing a small team to subdue him for possibly attacking before any hint of malintent was even in Thanos' mind. I know you're thinking "well i-it's thanos" but that doesn't negate the fact that they still punished a thinking being BECAUSE OF A POSSIBILITY. It's still minority report bullshit, just on a larger scale and thus easier to miss because of bias.

>>83376872
>That's a terrible analogy. Carol didn't pre-emptively attack Thanos,
Literally yes she did. They decided to ambush him (badly) when other options were available. I'm not saying she didn't do the right thing, I mean they removed any possibility of Thanos harming innocents. However doing a right thing through the wrong means is still wrong.
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>>83377254
Hey guise, I heard you're gonna fight the mad titan Thanos, can I come along?
>Sure, Rhodey! That sounds great!
Now do you mean it? I mean all I've got is a few missiles and machine guns, so I don't know how well I'd stand up to a monster like Thanos...
>Don't worry! Guns and rockets beat aliens in the movies all the time! Nothing could possibly go wrong!

This level of thinking is like letting the athsmatic retarded kid play on your dodgeball team just because he "volunteered"
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>>83374937
>>83374929
>>83374917
Oh, I see how this is going to go now. The entire series after these 3 pages is a dream. Jean didn't realize how vivid his visions were and threw everyone in a dream world by accident. Probably the last issue will be them fighting Thanos all together and trying to change the future. She-hulk will live but Rhodey will be in a wheelchair (just like the movies! LOL!!) and then he'll run for president so we can have a crippled black veteran superhero president.

This is why the kid's name was Homer at first. Homer, the storyteller.

Also I have Bingo on my Bendis Bingo card. What do I win?
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>>83375684

It's because Tony stole Pete's quip that one time.
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>>83377345
>They decided to ambush him (badly) when other options were available
Name one.
I'm sorry, but your arguments just don't hold water.
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>>83377318
Is he though?
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>>83374981
>It's wrong to preemptively get rid of the Hulk just because he's a possible threat
Says the guy who shot Hulk into space.
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>>83377263
to be fair, Bendis can't be lazy with as much work as he does, but at the same time, he doesn't have enough time to put any thought into his work. he just spews out some random stream of consciousness bullshit with no plot or plan.
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>>83377345
>I know you're thinking "well i-it's thanos" but that doesn't negate the fact that they still punished a thinking being BECAUSE OF A POSSIBILITY
It isn't a Minority Report situation. In MR they punished people that hadn't done anything. Thanos HAS done things, horrible things. By your logic we should give fugitive rapist child-killers the benefit of the doubt and not assume that he's planning on killing a bunch of kids because you got intel that he's going to a kindergarten.
Your arguments are stupid and don't hold water.
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>>83377197
yes, but have you ever even as looked more like?
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>>83374883
WAIT, Johnny is still cucking Blackbolt? What's the fuck, why is this allowed what's happening? Why hasnt blackagar fucked his shit permanently?
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Wow, we're gonna need a new thread.
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>>83375091
I'm rather liking these stupid pills. Guilt over not helping Rhodey upgrade his suit, unable to handle it, blame everyone else, paint self into corner.
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>>83375908

Because we're gonna be stuck with this shit till late October, thats why.

Also NOBODY asked for a Civil War 2.
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>>83376423
I'm looking forward to the escalation. I wonder who tony is going to try and throw under the bus.
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>>83376473
Guess she hulk ran out of plot armor pretty sure she has shrugged off worse.
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>>83377518
I asked for it.
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>>83377518
i asked for it after CW1. check the archives
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>>83375462
> Now that she-hulk is dead, Hulk is picking up the slack by transitioning
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>>83377519
If the escalation doesn't come from Carol's side its fucking over.
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>>83375288
I'm not sure, what would Chesty Puller have done?
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>>83377385
>Name one.
Irrelevant, What you're trying to do is narrow my point until you can find something you can actually refute. Not happening. What Carol could've done isn't the point, the point is what she did was objectively wrong.
>I'm sorry, but your arguments just don't hold water.
Adding "your argument holds no water" at the end of statement doesn't make it a valid argument. Infact it's the opposite, dismissing an argument without actually refuting anything it is like forfeiting.

D- See me after class
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>>83377545
this is ultimate She Hulk though.
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>>83375684
>expecting Peter Starker to be written in character after years of being shit on by Slott

top kek
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>>83375777
http://braintumor.org/brain-tumor-information/treatment-options/
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>>83377576
>The precog says that Jessica Drew is gonna be a terrible mom, let's arrest her and put her baby into foster care
>God I live seperating Spider-Women from their children
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>>83377491
Nobody knows, Medusa said he wouldn't disgrace his throne by fight there but that isn't stopping him from killing johnny somewhere else. He even implied he would.
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>>83377440
that he only did it once at least shows he learned his lesson
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>>83375038
>Ms. America crying and stammering
What? For Carol? For Rhodes? Is she intimidated by Tony? None of these make sense.
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>>83377614
no it isn't
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>>83377629
I wouldn't doubt it will be something of this nature.
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>>83377611
I can refute it. Nothing Carol could have done would have been able to prevent Thanos from teleporting into Project Pegasus. Ambushing him the moment he arrived was the only option.

>But-but it was a possibility
If it was a possibility, then worst case scenario Thanos never shows up.
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>>83374908
Nobody cared about it. It didn't affect a single other book with magic characters like A-Force, Uncanny Avengers or New Avengers. That's right, it's so insignificant even Ewing doesn't give a fuck.
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>>83375288
She went to a fight with Dazzler and didn't tell Medusa to bring Blackbolt. She only called Minoriteam and no one else.

I mean you could bring Rogue or everyone's favorite Deadpool to be a damage sponge.
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>>83377732
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>>83377155
It is a good out come but tony will get buttmad cause is bbc is now kill.
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>>83374981
No Tony, you stop Hulk because he's ALREADY done things you dont like, most of which are illegal. Hulk should already be in prison, the fact that he isn't is a failure on your part.
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>>83377605
She's chair force, senpai.
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>>83377691
yes it is
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>>83377732
>>83377750
Guys can we all at least agree that Marquez and pic related Mark Brooks are the best Captain Carol artist?
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>>83377685
Presumably, although I don't know her character, the recent death and current coma-ization of two of her allies has her a tad rattled thus explaining her actions.
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>>83375684
That's exactly what this sort of thing could get used for assuming Ulysses even does get visions of stuff like single murders. Second chances, not tossing people in cryofreeze.
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>>83377795
Sorry pic related here...
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>>83377552
>>83377565

well fuck both of you.
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>>83377699
considering they all have world jumpers and only one or two friends each, I'm waiting for a scene where one of the spider-people on 616 points out that they don't, actually, have to put up with this shit, they can just migrate to a much better universe and leave this world behind
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>>83377739
The idea is that she grabbed everybody that was at the Triskelion and went. I think in the FCBD they actually drove there?

Of course, she has Ms. America so that makes no sense, but it's Bendis.
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>>83377265

Well there is the potential that she is holding sparkling cider

but it's most likely champagne as writers don't actually care about Carol.
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>>83377790
Ultimate She-Hulk is dead.
the only characters from the Ultimate universe still alive are Miles Morales and Reed Richards
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>Precog says Captain America is Hydra
>Everyone thinks Tony was right and Homer is full of shit.
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>>83377685
I could see her crying for team members because of the whole I gotta save everyone thing. But she has only met shulkie once and doesn't know rhodey.

> Is she intimidated by Tony
That is just unjustifiable if anything it would make her bitch mode flair up.
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>>83377891
kek
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>>83377461
>It isn't a Minority Report situation. In MR they punished people that hadn't done anything.
>Good thing we arrested you before your crime that possibly could've happened
>Hey Thanos, good thing we ambushed you before your attack that possibly could've happened
Just because it's on a larger scale doesn't mean it isn't the same.

>By your logic we should give fugitive rapist child-killers the benefit of the doubt and not assume that he's planning on killing a bunch of kids because you got intel that he's going to a kindergarten.
That's a terrible analogy. If they're fugitives they'd be arrested for still being opperable in the first. Place. You're too desperate to prove a point.

>get intel that a man could be possibly making a bomb
>should we investigate and up security in his vicinity to minimize any potential damage.
>HA NOPE, ARREST HIM WHEN HE LEAVES HIS HOME BECAUSE HE COULD POSSIBLY DO IT!

>Your arguments are stupid and don't hold water.
ad hominem, not good anon. We're grown ups here.

>and don't hold water.
Can't hold a race if you always forfeit at the end.
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>>83375127
>It's our future, not his
So Carol is going to interpret this as fight Tony for the right to use the precog, but it will later be revealed Jennifer meant that the future doesn't belong to the precog to dictate and she was saying the exact opposite thing.
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>>83374834

>Dat cute Magik tummy
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>>83377808
I think I'd put Felipe Smith's and Rocafort's over Brooks.
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>>83377904
it's probably just because Thanos beat the shit out of her and all the adrenaline is gone
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>>83375102
>You went to fight Thanos? Why would you do that?
>You'd rather we just let him take a cosmic cube?
>YES! Thanos is too tricky for his own good! He'd stumble, drop it, and be taken away by the NYPD in no time! But you sent Rhodey after him, and you know the black guy always dies first!
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>>83377971
>who gave me my powers
I thought she got her powers from some reality warping gene scrambler that belonged to an alien scientist?
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>>83375134
Jesus Christ, it's Marvel, people. It's literally a game of tallying up the privilege points and seeing who has the most. Whichever team has the most women, blacks, gays, and non-Americans will win. I'm not being sarcastic or edgy - we all fucking KNOW this by now. Get a full team roster for each side and go from there.
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>>83377932
>That's a terrible analogy. If they're fugitives they'd be arrested for still being opperable in the first. Place. You're too desperate to prove a point.
Then that means that Thanos should be stopped because of the crimes he's already committed. See how it works? Thank you for proving my point.

>get intel that a man could be possibly making a bomb
>should we investigate and up security in his vicinity to minimize any potential damage.
>HA NOPE, ARREST HIM WHEN HE LEAVES HIS HOME BECAUSE HE COULD POSSIBLY DO IT!

Nope, that's not how it happened. It went like this:
>get intel that man that has made bombs before and has killed a whole bunch of people is probably making another bomb
>evacuate the entire building to avoid civilian casualties
>Let's go after the bomber because he's already bombed a bunch of people and needs to be stopped even if he isn't putting a bomb this time, but let's face it, why else would he be here?
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>>83378040
Well, Carol's team has the starting upper hand, but Tony is not far behind, and even has Ms.Marvel
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>>83375194
>Out of the loop, have they mentioned what Cyclops did?

it's what Nick Fury whispered to Thor.
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>>83375717
It's an attempt at a very, very, VERY, dated Martha Stewart reference.

Did anyone even remember her before I mentioned her name?
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>>83377932
you're dumb as a rock.
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>>83375134
Wasen't at first but anon changed my mind. Ulysses is not reliable enough to be a such a huge deciding factor. Sure preemptive strikes on big bads is all good but it can only go downhill from here.
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>>83377767
I'm not sure the answer to "what would Curtis LeMay have done" would have been relevant, so let's look past who's from what service branch here.
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>>83375743
>Not even a MCU cameo or mention on Netflix.
They have problems giving Hulk, an actual A-Lister, a place.
>>83375743
>A-Force's sales are weak.
They haven't even got close to 20k mark, it will probably live to #12 and get a restart.
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>>83376774
Recommend me something from him.

All I ever read were his appearances in Bendis' Avengers and Venom
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>>83374917
Jean? You going to tell everybody that Steve Rogers is Hydra? No?

You're the worst.
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>>83375777
You are trying too hard.
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>>83378077
once again you're ignoring the minority report aspect of it because "I-it's thanos". You're so focused on "she did the right thing" that you're ignoring "he methods were so unbelievably objectively flawed that applying it learn term like she plans can't be anything but a bad idea."

You're thinking in such a 2D manner that you don't see the huge faults in Carol's side. whereas the biggest flaw in tony's side is "status quo is maintained."
>>83378122
Wow, what an interesting point of view. I can only dream of providing such deep and interesting commentary. Please tell me, what ivy league preschool you obtained such tact from.
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>>83377240
No, I'd rather have a full west coast douche over Bendis writing a midwesterner as someone from New York, Portland, or LA.
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>>83375127
this >>83376144
also WHAT FUCKING GOOD IS 900 CCs OF ANYTHING GOING TO DO IF YOU'RE ASYSTOLE
THAT'S ALMOST A LITER OF FLUIDS
WHAT GOOD IS DUMPING A LITER OF FLUIDS INTO A VEIN THAT'S NOT MOVING ANYTHING GOING TO DO
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>>83378301
>you're ignoring the minority report aspect of it because "I-it's thanos"
I'm not ignoring it because the Minority Report analogy doesn't work. Thanos isn't a dindu nuffin, he's already murdered countless millions. What Carol did was the same as cops being told by an informant that a fugitive terrorist will be in a certain place at a certain time planning an attack, and going after him to arrest him as well as stopping the potential attack.
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>>83378189
Didn't she have a desk job for most of her intro. She wasn't that much of a pilot originally, right? She only became more outgoing because the Ms. Marvel personality merged with Carol Danvers.
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>>83375692
>So it's going to start with Carol in the right then slowly she'll become the mustache twirling villain?

Just like Tony in the original.

So I guess Tony will be like Cap, i.e. starting from a completely retarded position but increasingly justified by default through how extreme the other side gets.
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>>83375684
Well, he did sell his marriage cause he couldn't accept that people die. So change the future is fine with that kind of tard-master
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>>83378314
it's not for Jen, the doc just likes to sip the stuff
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>>83377633
So marvel have no clue what they want? They spend all this time and effort jerking off Inhumans as a whole and then make Blackbolt a Cuck. For the love of God he better eviscerate Johnny.
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>>83378193
His Max mini was pretty good.
Also his 90s book, if you don't mind it being so... well, 90s.
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>>83378427
in current continuity, Cheeseburger was always a demon
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>>83378301
> the biggest flaw in tony's side is "status quo is maintained."
no, the biggest flaw in tony's side is "everyone dies".

you're thinking about this incorrectly. this is not a police action. this is a military action.
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>>83378528
that's the alcholic murderCarol I know and love
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>>83378538
Look, if only we could've sat Thanos down and talked to him, maybe he could be rehabilitated. Did you think of that, huh?
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>>83375227
Cyke probably came guns blazing and BB swatted him away like a fly. Either that or no one told the Inhumans writers what it's going to be, so they're ignoring it and avoiding that shitshow.
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>>83378510
Black Bolt is barely in the Inhumans book and won't be in this event as far as the solits show. He is being left behind in the Inhumans push. He was probably only in the big fight because everybody was there, he didn't even come to the part after it.
>>
comic bad
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>>83378510
>yfw johnny somehow beats him
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>>83377576
What do you expect carols side to do? Also who do you think will come out on top I'll be carols side.
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>>83374917
>Jean going through people's minds yet again
That's bullshit. At least it was worth it for that Carol smirk. Also teen Jean shouldn't be allowed to be this hot.
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>>83378587
They are probably going to have and X vs I event and neither writing teams are allowed to do anything related to it until that event happens. The problem is the event takes a back seat to Civil war, apoc wars, death of x, and probably dead no more so none of this will be explained for a long time.
>>
We seriously need a new thread now
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>>83378594
Is this how Cyclops fans feel? Minus the fucking of course.
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>>83375013
Are you fucking serious Bendis
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>>83378641
I think it will be an ongoing issue but they won't fight about it, just argue.

I don't know what Carol and co. will do, but she's very much a brute-force type of person. As in, "He's hiding in the building? Blow it up." She would at least evac it first.
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>>83375133
Did someone make a bingo card for this event? Can you post it for me, please.
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>>83378795
maybe, BB hasn't been killed off but cyclops wasn't cucked. who had it worst?
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>>83375049
>>83375071
>>83375091
>>83375102
PUNISHED CAROL
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>>83378970
Thanks anon
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>>83378929
It's better to be dead than be a cuck. On the other hand, Black Bolt is running a bar and there's no way he isn't sampling some of the clientele.
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>>83375282
>>83375282
What's strange is that the Ultimates should be able to take down Thanos, given their power levels.
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>>83375683
No. He's poor for Tony Stark. Instead of being one of the richest people on Earth, he's just a multi-millionaire.

He's still like the richest person in that room.
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>>83379049
but thanos had a gun
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>>83378970
I love these. Thanks.
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>>83378715
Dammit we don't even need an Inhumans vs. X-Men event. Why can't both sides just get along? Hell, why aren't Quicksilver and Crystal frontrunners to show that Inhumans and Mutants can get along? Quicksilver got a big power boost from the mists, but of course it has to kill other mutants.
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>>83378581
>Look, if only we could've sat Thanos down and talked to him, maybe he could be rehabilitated. Did you think of that, huh?

It's happened before, though only Adam Warlock has done it successfully.
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>>83378538
>the biggest flaw in tony's side is "everyone possibly dies in an event we haven't seen and have very little context for, we should approach all these events in the most crass way possible because it's been shown to work in extremely simple situations so far and I'm an extremely simple person".

Neat
>>83378395
>i'm not ignoring it because it's Thanos
>Just saying it's thanos

You're missing the point.

>>83375282
>Tony is arguing that Carol SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE AT ALL.
No he's saying she's at fault for handling the situation so irresponsibly. She is.
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>>83378970
Doesn't Jessica and Dazzler's little discussion count as accusing Hellstrom of misoginy?
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>>83374697
Okay... this shit will happen for all the sort of wrong reasons.

Summing up, Tony chose not believe in every predictions of a rookie inhuman prophet, even if the first was an epic jackpot, but Carol chooses believe. Right, nothing wrong there.

Carol learns about a second prediction and brings an, at least, mediocre team to stop Thanos. Things went wrong, Rhodey dies. Tony blames Carol for act rashly with costs their Rhodes. Tony's wrong, but Shulk revives herself for 2 pages to say Carol is right.

Now, explain to me how Carol didn't an awesome shit and Tony's rage is unjustified? Because, the way I saw, Tony is reasonable in not take every prediction as safe and Carol was careless in not consider the threat's level.

By the end of the day, this shit is happening because both are hotblooded idiots, supported by other hotblooded idiots.

But, hey, at least ONE person that's immune to little Jean's psychic shit is already a positive point!
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>>83377265
Carol being an alcoholic got removed from her past along with the rape/incest/rape.
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>>83379184
>No he's saying she's at fault for handling the situation so irresponsibly. She is.
That's not what Tony said at all. If that's what Tony believed, he'd blame everything on Carol instead of going after Ulysses.
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Can someone tell me why Johnny and Medusa are together now? I don't read anything Inhumans, so that pairing makes no sense to me.
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>>83375127

>She Hulk died from a missile shot by War Machines OUTDATED armor

Fuck you bendis
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>>83379162
They can't even decide on how the cloud works or why it can't be stopped. uncanny avengers had the inhumans saying they can't destroy it for religious reasons, all-inhumans say they can't catch the cloud to properly analyze it, and somewhere else said they can't seem to track it. They manage this whole thing terribly. how all fo these books be held down by editorial but still not be able to keep the details consistent.
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>>83379252
They were both lonely, Medusa from the divorce, and johnny from the F4 being split up. Medusa's reason for loving him the really cliched "because he is the only person that doesn't see me as a queen first".
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New thread
>>83379343
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>>83374834
This is no spell, the mosnter jsut realized how silly they look and decided it's below his dignity.
Ginyu Force look less silly.
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Civil War II 01 (of 07) (2016) (15 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Spaztastic)
http://www58.zippyshare.com/v/VEXy2zPm/file.html

Civil War II 001 (2016) (digital) (Oroboros-DCP)
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/Uj6mFCx3/file.html
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>>83375063
>You Earth Avengers
>none of them are actually Avengers
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>>83379333
there's an ez solution
say one of the cloud's first victims was themself transformed into a terrigen elemental, like sandman or hydroman but with the mists
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>>83379399
And Medusa's sister is okay with this?
>>
Am I the only person on /co/ who actually likes this?
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>>83379511
She was mad about Medusa keeping it a secret but she isn't in the same book with medusa 98% of the time so it doesn't come up.
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>>83379561
>am I the only one on /co/ with shit taste
Probably not
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>>83375113
>we have him in a cell down below
Oh God, they probably have him right next to anti-man. I'm sure that won't be a complete clusterfuck.
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>>83379618
exactly as we called it
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>>83379078
No, anon. He had THREE guns.
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>>83375424
NAMOR
A
M
O
R
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>>83378939
Pretty much we just need the edit now.
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>>83375462
Tony wins. Carol is right.

Following in the proud tradition of hero vs. hero events, where the winner is absolutely in the wrong.
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>>83375516
No, it happens in the middle of this one.
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>>83375638
Tony made a perfectly viable point. But instead of trying to work alongside Carol to make sure they don't offer a level of healthy skepticism and apply that big brain to hashing out the issues, he storms out of the room pissed off then goes ballistic because his friend died on a mission that had to be done.

Tony may be "right" but his reasoning for starting this war and escalating conflicts is 100% driven by emotions and stupid pills.
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>>83375134
So far Carol, but I think in the long wrong the side that changes status quo the least will ultimately be right, even if they officially lose. That's what happened in the first Civil War after all, with all the worst fears and more about the registration passing coming true, and then they went back to status quo.

Carol could still end up slipping and make a bunch of terrible decisions later.
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>>83375134
Hmmmm let a genocidal space maniac rampage for a bit without knowing he was there until he destroyed and or killed enough people or mess with the future and risk altering the timestream? I'd say the first choice since the Time tends to busy your nuts in the worst possible way if you change it? But I'm just gonna be like Doctor Strange and fuck off from this shit event.
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