Big Daddy Carl lays down the law. No uppity females allowed

So how before Dave has xis sex change?

>>83335837
>http://blog.slurpystudios.com/how-to-commission-an-animated-film/
The person who posted this clearly didnt read it, it says the big reason according to the data for suicide rates were marginalization. The more bullied the more likely they were to kill themselves not to mention that the closer to completion the less likely they were to.

>>83335917
>http://www.torontosun.com/2015/06/08/suicide-rate-much-higher-for-transgender-canadians-study

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>>83335837

>>83335917

The real reasons are depression and drug abuse. Transgenderism is a pathology associated with depression.

Hey Carla. You and Mary are annoying cunts. Guess who's going to be roomiest.

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>>83335837
The problem with this fancomic is it believes that there's a character named "Carla". Even Willis knows that isn't true.

>>83335917
>>83335943
Who would guess that a lifestyle centering around an untreated mental disorder would lead to a bad ending

>>83335837
So how does anything Mary did make it okay for Carl_ to assault her, threaten her, and demean her religion?

>>83335979
It would be so fucking easy to do their rivalry with a little humor and class instead of badly done slapstick.

>>83336260

The "you're born knowing you're trans" mythology is pretty funny after you've seen a guy go from being a straight christian who hates his mom and dad to being a fag to being a tranny to being a "trans lesbian". It's escapism and fetishism that people convince themselves is real because they really, *really* want to go into the girl's room and take a shit next to all those girls they want to fuck.

The thing I hate is that the trannies keep trying to fuck with drag queens, who are at least having fun.

>>83336275
She ruined their skates becasue were being an inconsiderate ass and not giving a damn that some people in college actually study.

>>83336438
>to being a fag to being a tranny
the worst was when he thought he was a fag he still acted like a dude and was bearable to hang out with, but once he turned tranny (which was partly because being a fag didn't piss off his parents and partly because he worked out where the REAL oppresion points are in [$current_year]) he turned super, super faggy about it. I could handle the wig and the stockings, it was the constant exaggerated "feminine" gestures that no woman outside of a cartoon ever actually does. (Also: the not shaving)

>>83336275
Mary reacted to Carl's deliberate provocation, giving him the excuse to attack her outright that he was looking for all along.

>>83336555
>(Also: the not shaving)

Which, this is one of the things I wish people got about trannies.

They don't just still look like men and want you to call them women anyway.

They *get off* on the fact that they look like men, and that they're making you call them a woman anyway.

Which is why I always call them men and always use their real names. I never signed up to be part of some ugly dude's weird fetish.

Well, I mean, it’s her pie. She was holding onto it. Mary stole it out of her hands. Mary would owe her for a new pie seeing as how she stole and ruined the first one.
But like, this is all moot, because Carla has no intention of involving any form of authority, because she’s more than aware of how authorities of all stripes treat trans folks and especially trans folks who defend themselves in the most minor of ways.
Carla is not going to get Mary in trouble for jack shit. Because the point is more to make Mary aware that she can’t just treat Carla like a disposable pawn in her moral crusade against “The Gay”. Like some “misplaced freak” who doesn’t have a name and a right as much as Mary to be here.
To get personal revenge because the system has failed and will almost always fail those like Carla.

Trans people get single rooms in dorms in order to technically meet Title IX requirements while still maintaining a level of deniability if a bigot registers a complaint. A means of technically respecting her identity enough to not be breaking the law while allowing systemic denials of her rights.
A single room is a major red flag that the level of support she has within IU depends a hell of a lot more on her parents being who they are than it does show a genuine system support for Carla’s identity.

The greatest revenge is a life well lived, unfettered and unbroken by the hatred and sabotage of others.
It’s why my sole act of revenge against the fuckhead who calls himself my father was proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that I could survive without ever contacting him again, never allowing myself to ever let him bully me into reparative therapy, without any safety net at all.

Yup, I don’t think my dad was prepared for me to stop fighting for my humanity with the family and just accept my disownment once and for all. But it meant that all the people he had power over he couldn’t use anymore and he no longer had any means of accessing me and my life.

Yup. It’s the failure of her imagination brought on by the inflexibility of her hateful beliefs. She believes that everyone must act like her, taking everything personally and seeing themselves as epic avatars of good or evil (mostly evil). Just as petty, just as desperate to win at all costs, just as giddy to utterly destroy.
But Carla is not Mary. Their positions are not equivalent. Their actions are not equivalent. One is full of genuine violence and intentional attempts to emotionally wound and destroy hurt her. The other throws a pie in her face and shoots up some lights. Because Carla is not some “other side” for Mary to battle against. She’s Carla. And she’s human. And she’s done being the stand-in for some asshole’s “moral crusade”. Especially in the context in comic she is in of the last couple of months of endless bullshit intentionally hateful legislation.

this storyline is insane, plz stop posting this comic

So much this. Skates on carpet? Not really much in terms of noise.
Because it was never about noise. It was never about Carla technically breaking the rules. It wasn’t even about Carla being rude and refusing to respect Mary’s inherent “superiority”.
It was always about Carla being trans and that being an affront to Mary that needed to be torn down a peg.
And that has now been spelled out quite explicitly in the comic, so I think all the various Mary denialists can fuck right off now with this desperate bullshit and zombie mythology, cause it wasn’t any more convincing the first time around when everyone was pretending that Becky not using $20 to magically fix her life made her a user and an abuser to everyone around her.

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>>83337364
>>83337379
>>83337409
>>83337428
>>83337449
>>83337468
It's this kind of shit that makes me hate.

>Tranny has a victim complex
News at 11

>>83337449
>intentionally hateful legislation.
>making people use the right bathroom is "hateful".

>>83338299
I don't know about you, but I already pay enough in taxes. I don't want to start paying more just so we can afford penis inspectors.

>>83338364
All the law does is allow businesses to allow really obvious trannies from using the wrong bathroom and bothering people.

And since has /co/ opposed penis inspectors?

>>83338402
It's well known that /co/mrades always skip out on penis inspection day

>>83338402
>>83338467
Nver had penis inspection day at any school I went to. But then I did graduate before No Penis Left Behind was passed, so maybe it wasn't always mandatory.

>>83338402
I'm being a bit facetious, but the laws themselves are mostly unenforceable, redundant with pre-existing harassment laws, and a giant lawsuit magnet the moment a mannish looking cis-woman gets bothered because of it.

>>83337486
See all that I could get behind, bigots and bullies are a thing that exists. Trans people deal with a lot of shit. Respect and understanding can only make the world a better place.

But...

That's not what happens in this comic. Carla just decides to act like an inconsiderate bitch and focuses on Mary because she's the only one with the bals to push back. Mary may well be an awful person who deserves everything she gets but we don't see that. All we are shown is Mary responding to harrasment in what is actually a pretty restrained way

>>83338584
>inconsiderate bitch

Dick, to be a bitch you need to be a woman. Which Carl will never be.

>>83338628
Bitch is as bitch does.

>>83338584
>Trans people deal with a lot of shit.

They victimize themselves and deliberatly antagonize people. It's usually their own fault.

>>83338628
That's not even true. There's lots of men I call bitches.

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Friendly reminder that Willis' canon description for Carla on the site is that Carla purposefully goes out of >her way to be a cunt just because >she wants attention for it, showing >she's nothing but a petulant brat who dishes it out and can't take it back.

>>83335979
Actually,
>Deuteronomy 22:5
I'm a god damn Atheist and even I know this.

>>83338690
>if you don't hate her, it's because she hasn't been trying hard enough

So this little faggot has only himself to blame.

>>83338690
>she

>>83338707
That passage more than likely refers to religious garments as clothing of the time period was mostly unisex.

>>83338707
Oh hey, whaddya know. I actually don't give two shits about the bible, but that's nice to know at least. Carla was kinda just giving Mary the business anyway. I doubt she read it.

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>>83338800

>>83338800
>she

>>83338819
Blockchain is something to do with bitcoin?

>>83338819
Damn, being an atheist meansyou get martial arts training? Why did no one tell me!

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No Patreanon today?

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Post Mary of Arc pics.

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>>83339200
They were in the last thread.
how the fuck did we reach 624 posts in the last thread

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https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/737529113133469697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
>Another reminder that 1) i can see your IPs so I know it's just you again, and 2) new comments have to be approved, dipshit
Willis confirmed for creating safespace

>>83339297
So, they didn't find the little doll in Becky's room made out of Joyce's hair?

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>>83339401
little doll, or blow-up doll?

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>>83339397
Well, if we're all just screaming into the void of Willis' madness, at least we're doing it together.

>>83339401
They can't even recognize that her brother is gay. They aren't the best detectives. Look at him he screams twink cumdump.

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>>83339397
>he doesn't know about Proxy servers/changing IP

>>83335837

This doesn't put Carla on any sort of moral higher ground. It only makes him look petty

>>83335917

>> The more bullied the more likely they were to kill themselves

Then clearly we need to keep up the pressure

>>83335943

I can believe this. Simply having to live in Canada alone is reason enough to kill yourself.

>>83338584
>Respect and understanding can only make the world a better place.

So can getting serious psychiatric help

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>>83338584
>Respect and understanding can only make the world a better place.

You think shit like this is worthy of RESPECT?

>>83335837
how does one man make it to adult hood and continue to function while nursing a persecution complex this hard?

>>83339822
It might help with Carla being a bitch and learning to think about others, but it's not gonna completely fix gender dysphoria without her transitioning. We don't know everything there is to it and it's likely there's a neurological component to it that can't be adjusted with horomones outside of natal development.

>>83339837
Yes even that guy, you don't have to like him just don't go out of your away to be a dick about it.
Likewise he shouldn't be getting in your face just because you think he's weird

>>83339837
'a friend of dorothy' used to be gay code for 'a homosexual like us'

learn your history

>>83339437
I got an idea for some art now.

>>83336677
man, if you're pulling stuff out of your ass, at least wipe after

nice numbers tho

>>83337409
>The greatest revenge is a life well lived, unfettered and unbroken by the hatred and sabotage of others.
Oops, shame you're so busted you write political pamphlets in a webcomic's comments

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>>83337379
>>83337409
>>83337428
>>83337449
>>83337468
I really wish I could reach out to these rejects and strangle them.

Well, ok, not strangle. But tell them that they'll never find happiness constantly rebelling against the status quo.

http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/145195962377/i-notice-quite-a-few-people-criticizing-your

Oh boy

>>83341056
>The funniest thing about this, really, is that after one person came up with it, more than one other person saw this reasoning and decided, “yes, this is our point of attack, this is great and amazing,” while passing around and cradling a figurative pile of shit.
At least he isn't talking about us drowning in hobo piss yet.

>>83341056
>criticisms of my storytelling choices can only be the result of bigotry

kek

>>83341190
Yeah honestly I'm supportive of lgbt rights but Willis is shit at writing.

>>83341211

Agreed. I am a lgbt person and I find him unbearable and his writing to be garbage.

>>83341211
Same. Carla is the type of person who bigots point to and go "SEE!", and the fact that Willis thinks she's in the right (as opposed to neither of them being in the right because they're both shitty, shitty people) makes me cringe.

>>83337449
>Especially in the context in comic she is in of the last couple of months of endless bullshit intentionally hateful legislation.

Are we following the QC laws of time where its simultaneously Current Year and also perpetually 2010?

But yeah, hopefully one day Carla will grow and realize people despise her not for being trans, but for being a spoiled asshole.

>>83341327
That would require Willis to grow and realize people despise Carla not for being trans, but for being a spoiled asshole. That's never going to happen.

>>83341056
i like how he doesn't even try to hide that he wrote the arc so carla could have her little revenge in such a way that she can't actually be held accountable for it

i mean, i couldn't give less of a fuck about mary (she's as flat a character as everyone else in this shitty comic) but carla's plot armor is so glaring it's not even funny

Willis isn't willing to tolerate even off-topic discussion.

Upon witnessing that the fiend Kerberos has resurfaced in the slavishly ass-kissing comments section of a silly webcomic, I resolved to capture him and drag him before Eurystheus. The king of this worthless domain, however, refused to allow me to collar the hell-hound. Now all the creature does is gloat about how great Carla is.

Bear in mind: I am not interested in Carla. I don't care what tackle it's packing. Every storyline which may have been considered at all intriguing has been put on hold so that we can variously bemoan the fate of Becky or watch how damn cool Carla is supposed to be. I started reading the comic because Milholland plugged it once, and for a while it was a slightly engaging portrait of university. No longer.

>>83341391
I would have had more respect for Willis if he came up with an actual Rube Goldberg device instead of Mary grabbing the pie box due to flimsy logic and bad writing.

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I just really like the idea of Mary being an anime snob from the last thread.

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>>83341470

>>83341409
Nothing worse than a whiny 3-headed dog.

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>>83337468
>Skates on carpet? Not really much in terms of noise.
Bullshit! The onomatopoeia is the same size as the stomps which are clearly loud as fuck. And once again, when Carla gets her skates fucked up, Mary doesn't even have a moment where you see her enjoying having "taken [a transperson] down a peg" she literally goes back to reading her fucking book.

Willis has failed to actually convey what he intended, and now people are using stuff like that "no, it was skates on carpet, idiot" comment to downplay the actual contents of the strip.

If he wanted it to be this way, here's a list of things he could've done.
1) Show Mary finding out about Carla's status. He doesn't even need to show her reaction, cause we would link the comment in the hall to that more readily.

2) Have Mary treat Carla like she treats everyone else in the lead up to the "big insult" have her insult her, swear at her, call her godless and all that jazz. There's no reason she should've been so much more polite than usual.

3) Have her go out of her way to gloat when Carla eats shit after the glue prank. Having her say "serves you right, you were breaking the rules" doesn't count, because it fucking does serve her right, and that was a comment made after Carla searched her out.

4) If the skates were supposed to be fucking quiet Use small text for them above Mary's head, and then use larger text when she goes out in the hall. Then use even larger text for the stomping. This is an extremely simple concept.

>>83341710
What do you expect, him to actually think things through?

You know the biggest argument people could've made for disliking Carla is that she's a flat character.

>>83341497
Especially one which we must suffer to stay in darkness! The fell beast ought and must be dragged into the light, wherein it may be examined. Shadows multiply teeth. O! were I pledged to obey this Willis rather than Eurystheus, the world would be in ruin.

>>83341710
This has been said before, but where the hell was Ruth while Carla was making a huge ruckus in the hallway. Was she just returning to her room when Mary said Carla belonged in the boy's dorm or just regaining consciousness after a bender?

>>83341831
I suspect that one of the mad beast's many heads is Willis himself!

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>>83337468
Isn't Carla targeting Mary instead of the other-way around?

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>>83341710
Holy shit, fucking destroyed. Now she's going to wreck the other one.

>>83341857

Requesting this redrawn with Mary (or Carla if you want to retain the five o'clock shadow.)

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>>83341409
>>83341831
I'm expecting a God of War/DOA crossover from the sound of this.

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>>83341903
Carla doesn't even look upset.
If anything, she just seems annoyed/confused.

>>83341903
I hate all three of these characters. I think that's my biggest issue with this fucking comic, aside from Joyce there aren't any really nice characters.

>>83339437
Cause they aren't that bright

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>>83341857
>>83341917
We should have it fit the theme of the thread and redrawn with the persona of a DOA name-fag (i.e. Yoto/the dewd)

>>83341961

As much as I hate the comic it's what these threads are about, not namefags.

>>83341903
What annoys me so very much about this situation is how utterly useless Ruth is for (in-comic) HOURS. Fuckton of noise during study time? Not to worry. Snap at someone for creating said noise? GUESS WHO CRAWLS OUT THE WOODWORK

>>83341939
She was encouraged escalate and them those that did ran away. Common liberal behaviour.

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>>83341975
Well, alright then.

>>83341990

sounds like a realistic RA to me

>>83341939
It's because normally the fourth panel would've been her tentatively asking Mary what she had meant, and then we have a little back and forth with Mary hinting that she knows that Carla is trans, it ending with Mary calling Carla a freak or something, then Ruth shows up to call Mary out.

Instead Willis just said "Fuck that, I got Transformers to buy!" and missed out on an actual good chance to show how much of a villain Mary is, explain to the audience that doesn't read his tumblr that Carla is trans, and maybe flesh the fucking characters out some more.

>>83341990
Just a means to provide another target for demolition through Mary's unrestrained glory.

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>>83341991
>encouraged escalate and them those that did
I think you need to proof read your replies.
>>83342001
Good old David Willis!
what a cunt-meister

>>83341998
Yea they protect whom they want to protect and chase everyone else out that could ruin their little Kingdom by showing how useless they are.

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>>83342001

If Bruce Willis could draw he'd give Carla subtle male features since even the best trannies retain stuff like jaw size and brow width

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>>83341939
That is another thing: Ruth teleporting herself into the escalating argument the second that a hint of a slur is used denied Carla the chance to either stand up for herself or prove herself immune to such an insult.

However, Mary destroying Ruth with her knowledge of Ruth's misdeeds was the funniest thing I have ever seen in DoA.

>>83342067

ironically mary looks the most like she could pass for a man further cementing her as best girl

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>>83342067
Well, Carla's family is rich, so i bet they could afford expensive plastic surgery or something like that.

>>83341710
Going by the fact that Carla's also positioned sideways in the first comic while she skates, it's also likely that she wasn't just skating but also skidding/power-sliding in the halls - which would be really fucking grating and loud on shitty dorm carpets.

>>83342068
Got the original? Or is that it?

>>83342067
She could have started taking anti-androgens before puberty hit. But yeah she should have big hands and feet or something.

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>>83342121
No, just parodies.

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>>83342113
Why the fuck are they skating indoors in the first place?
If Jet Set Radio HD has taught me anything, it's that the best places to skate are outside with rails, half-pipes and shit.

>>83342140
Post more of them then.

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>>83342140
The most likely thing is that Carla actually did jack shit and asked her parents to do everything for her.

>>83342132
>She could have started taking anti-androgens before puberty hit.

I guess suffering from child abuse might make Carla a little more sympathetic

>>83342180
Well yeah, she fuckin' rich. She gets her room not because she's trans, but because her parents could afford to buy her one.

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>>83342149
Because Carla wouldn't actively being a cunt to every single person in the dorm if she were skating outside. Being a huge attention whore was the whole point.

>>83342166

>>83342101
Yup, if you are going to be trans being rich as well helps a lot

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>>83342212
Her being trans does probably come into the situation a bit, i think.

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>>83342229
>Cookie Saga
bravo with that, anon.

>>83342235
Ask yourself this, do you honestly think Carla is the only goddamn trans person at the school? On that floor? She's rich, her parents bought her a room all to herself.

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>>83342279
>do you honestly think Carla is the only goddamn trans person at the school?
Who else are you suggesting is trans?

>>83342298
__you

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>Just checked rule34
>not a single Mary pic
I'm disappointed in you all.
>>83342318
oh no

>>83342298
Black roomate, she tries too hard to be the normal one.

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>>83342336
Eh. She doesn't seem cunty enough to be trans in this comic.

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>>83335863
>xis
>not xzibis

>>83342229
>Hate crime
>gimme cookie

I tip my kek to you, good sir.

>>83341710
This is a really good argument for why trannies should all be given lethal injections.

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>>83342446
That would mean half of 4chan would be dead.

>>83342486
You say that as if it would be a bad thing.

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>>83342504
what if you were considered a tranny and lethally injected?

>>83342400
you don't really need a sex change anymore, you can just say you identify with whatever

anyone who says otherwise is a bigot who deserves to get pie'd in the face

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>>83342521
Well, since fictionkin (people identifying as fictional characters, sometimes multiple) is a thing, i believe you.
fuck this gay earth, dawg

>>83342486
Did that demon speak only a sentence fragment or was part of that statement edited out?

>>83342519
I guess I should have made better life choices, then.

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>>83342539
http://anotherwiki.org/wiki/Fictionkin
>Also known as Mediakin and Otakukin
>Otakukin
end it all
>>83342562
does it really matter

>>83342521
You never had to get a sex change mostly because all methods of sex changes are shit right now, unless you consider HRT without bottom surgery a sex change.

>>83342539
>>83342582
That isn't an officially recognized thing, like otherkin and transracials.

>>83342521

You know, if the tumblrinas say that all that really matters is what you say you identify as, then why do they also say that the state should help pay for sex change operations?

Surely sex change operations are irrelevant when all that matters is what you think you are.

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>>83342619
>otherkin
how the fuck is that officially recognized.
People have been identifying as FICTIONAL ANIMALS LIKE DRAGONS.
IT'S LITTERALLY JUST FICTIONKIN WITH ANIMALS.

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>>83342650

>>83342619
>otherkin and transracials are officially recognized
I'm gonna need some serious proof on that.

>>83342598
Transgenderism will be a lot different in the future when we know what causes it or can perform a practically seamless transition. As usual, this is a funny period of history to live through.

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>>83342659

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>>83342648
No I'm saying those two are also not officially recognized. With Transgender stuff there is evidence of neurological causes with BSTc size studies, unfortunately it's hard to get more information on it since you can only really get a look at it post mortem.

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>>83342706
>this is a funny period of history to live through
I bet the Romans thought the exact same while shit came crashing down around their ears and their culture, history and legacy were all completely destroyed.
"No no guys it'll get better eventually it's all part of progress."

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>>83342771

>>83342756
Is that chick a robot? Her eyes are different from everyone else's.

So how long do you think before the fans find this?

http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Dumbing_Of_Age

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>>83342791

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>>83342785
Their legacy history and culture wasn't destroyed we still study it and teach it.

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>>83342821

Honestly, a comic about this guy would be so much better.

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>>83342807
>The review finally came out

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>>83342785
Romans didn't invent the internet and there are no barbarians at the gate. This shit is just people trying to be people, in front of a huge number of people around the world and connected to others with the similar feelings or problems.

>>83339488
Hey you

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>>83342807
>red text

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>>83342807
>Conclusion
>If you thought this review was too long, don't read the comic.
perfect

>>83342149
I hate how Mary crying is an edit. I wish that when Carla pranked Mary instead of being smug she just saw Mary crying hysterically. Like that episode of SpongeBob where squidward pranks back SpongeBob only to realize he went too far.

>>83342843
No it wouldn't
It would be LICD 2: Shitty SHITFUCK AWFUL

>>83342889
>people trying to be people
It's people trying to be the most special snowflake and becoming abominations in the process.

>>83342936
Y O U S T I N K

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>>83342807
>Bitch, did you check your privilege?!
>cousin-fucking Hitlers

>>83342943
Some of it honestly might be that, but not all of it.

>>83342938
Only if Joe was presented as an all-conquering hero instead of a goofball.

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>>83342807
>In writing this review, there may have been some Willis subtext leakage as a result of having to internalize the comic to review it.

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>>83342807
>DoA Patreon in case you want to depress yourself.
>National Suicide Prevention Lifeline (United States) 1 (800) 273-8255
>Text worldwide: http://www.crisistextline.org/textline/
>Pictures of kittens

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>>83343407
I'm going to start giving money to Unsounded on Patreon. It is shocking how little money Ash gets for such a quality work.

>>83343461
While you're at it, could you also throw a bone over to Endtown? There's a webcomic that needs support.

>>83337379

A single room is a fucking luxury. Why would you complain about that?

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>>83335837
Ok, I'm sorry, i just don't get what this character is supposed to be or what the author /artists whants to do with it.

I don't read this comic much, only when you guys make a thread about it and post random comics strips of it.

I've seen that this character is just an obnoxious little shit that likes to annoy everyone but doesn't like to be confronted with. It makes fun of everyone for every little thing but when people talk about him being trans he goes appeshit and gets all offended. Are we supposed to like this motherfucker somehow?

I mean look at this shit:
>>83335837
>>83341710
>>83342149(this one is kind of an edit i guess)


Al his dialog si fucking atrocious and i haven't seen a single comic strip from these threads where he doesn't talk shit. What is he supposed to be? I don't get get.

>>83338659
Plz stop misgendering them.

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>>83343677
This shit.

So the pie in the face, (plus all the other crap that Carla has been doing) is just goofy fun, but don't call someone the wrong WORD because that's worse than murder.

Next time Willis is at a con, someone needs to hit him in the face with a pie. He just said it's no big deal, so it no longer counts as harassment or assault.

Plus, he keeps forgetting that Mary wouldn't be doing anything to anyone if people would just leave her alone. She is always just sitting in her apartment. Legally, she's allowed to be as much of a hateful bigot as she wants as long as she doesn't actually do anything to anyone and she literally isn't except when Carla keeps doing to shit to her dorm.

>>83343844

>Mary stole the box out of someone's hands. don't take shit that isn't yours

i want to punch him in the face

>>83343894
What makes it more obnoxious is that it's his own character. He made her do it. Why are you speaking as if you're a 3rd party to an actual event that took place?

>>83343844
>Maybe don't grab shit that ain't yours, Mary
>Maybe don't walk down that street at night by yourself in that dress, Mary

>>83343407
>How much time has passed? At the time of writing this, there have been 1,802 comics spread across 5 years, 8 months, and 20 days. In that time, the comic has progressed a grand total of 29 days and it skipped 4 of them. It will be a little over 66 years before Joyce's first day as a sophomore.

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>>83343931
One of the things that tickles me a bit about this strip is that if you know about Willis it turns the whole thing into a Gnostic hellworld. Mary's not actually wrong - the creator is real, knows all and sees all, and HATES her.

>>83343844
>character that have a reasonable doubt about her safety tries to protect herself
>'lol, stole from Carla'

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>>83344091
I love how Willis constantly flails to justify his "good" characters' actions and argues against reader interpretations he doesn't like.

You know, like all the best writers do.

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>>83343942
>almost 6 years have passed and the comic has barely gone a month
what the shit
Is willis stupid or a genius?

I can't get over the insane authorial railroading that DW employs to make the pie to the face "Mary's own fault" as if that means anything. As if Carla just happened to be standing outside Mary's door and wasn't, you know, borderline stalking her, and as if "By the walls of Jericho! She has a box? IT MUST BE PROTECTING HER FROM T H E D E V I C E. I'VE GOT TO GRAB IT, AND FAST!" is a sensible train of thought and not total insanity he jammed into her head so that thing would turn out precisely the way DW would like them too.

This is why I visit DoA threads, because this shit is crazier than an episode of Superfriends.

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>>83344385
Carla a shit. I can't stand asshole trustfund babies. I also don't feel that bad for her for being trans since her rich parents probably protected her from most harassment she would have faced.

The best development that could happen from this is that Mary is also trans, but doesn't rub it in peoples face. Some protestant branches accept transpeople so she could still be christian.

>>83342650
What the fuck is wrong with this guy's... everything? I know that David is a fat doughy little pillsbury fukkboi, but it's not that hard to look at a reference of someone who isn't a disgusting sack of misshapen playdoh before you try making a bicep a square block or hoist briefs up to the fucking bellybutton.

>>83344569

While it would be an interesting tweest, Willis would never do that.

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>>83343844
That's a real fucking shitty excuse for his character to act like a fucking little shit every time he appears on a strip. Does this nigga has a hate boner for Christians or something?

>>83344787
Yes. Specifically his Christian mom.

He desperately needs to see a shrink.

>>83344247
You thought Court comics were the master of foot dragging.

So quick question.

If you all hate Willis so much, why are you still giving his comic attention?

You know how Marvel is just doing controversy after controversy now, since any publicity is good publicity? You are proving that to be right.

>>83344850
Yea the things he blames them for are laughable.

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>>83343844
>Legally, she's allowed to be as much of a hateful bigot as she wants as long as she doesn't actually do anything to anyone
I don't read this tripe, so how much of a hateful bigot is Mary.

I know she said Carla belonged in the Boys' Dorm, but wasn't that after being tormented already?

What did Mary do to start the feud?

Because if she just snapped at Carla because xhe was being a shit, that'd be something anyone would do

>>83344972
Mary destroyed her new hundred dollar skates with glue. Which shouldn't work but does in this universe.

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>>83344850
I think he desperately needs to see the end of a shotgun's barrel. i've been checking his comic for a while in these threads and now i'm at his page, most of these characters are fucking ridiculous and act like people are supposed to like them regardless of what stupid shit they do.

The father hunting his daughter with a shotgun was also really retarded.
>>83344945
Tell me more about it, i'm enjoying my anger now.

>>83345015
You mean after the little shit kept making noise for no reason or what so ever?

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>>83345015
Did she do that because Carla was a tranny or because she was being a fucking retard?

Because if it's the latter, then this whole thing is about the fact that Carla is a huge fucking bitch and the rude comment was just the result of someone being mad.

>>83345034
Yeah no Carla definitely started this, anon just asked if Mary did something other than snapping and misgendering her.

>>83345052
It's because of the latter, Carla was skating in the halls. Yeah this isn't a hate crime, this is just a domestic incident. Mary doesn't really seem to give a shit about Carla being transgender and just cares that Carla's a cunt.

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>>83335979
make porn already

>>83337364
> folks
That word more than anything has made the last ten years unbeatable. Folks? FOLKS? What folksy horseshit are they trying to cram down our throats? Is it that we KNOW people suck, ergo they can't use "people" any more?

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>>83344925
Willis doesn't really have a revenue scheme that benefits much from outrage.

You also have a naive view of what's going on here. We like being angry at the comic. Our outrage is entertaining and cathartic, and we enjoy it.
The more we provoke Willis the more outrageous he becomes and thus more fun we can have raging back.

Sure, it's not a productive thing to do. But most hobbies aren't. And the fact that this thread produces content makes it better than four fifths of the threads currently on /co/

I want an edit of this were its a hulking red neck hillbilly motherfucker standing outside a shy, quiet girls room with a bag filled with duct tape and dildos, gun on his hip and a balaclava on (Under his Fedora) because she called him creepy and said the 2nd amendment wasn't applicable to normal life anymore.

Because that's the equivalent.

I'm not an SJW but the only comparison I can make for this entire arc is basically abuse, its 'You don't agree with my personal politics, so anything that I do to you is acceptable'
If anyone can get hold of Willis in public, compare and contrast this shit with Corrective Rape and watch him squirm.

>>83345059
>>83345096
Worth remembering that this is her cast page
http://wayback.archive.org/web/20151030072457/http://www.dumbingofage.com/cast/attachment/2014castcarla/

>Carla wants people to know she exists, and she might have to tie a few shoelaces together or penny a door shut to force that moment of acknowledgement. If you don’t hate her, it’s because she hasn’t been trying hard enough. Her only known soft spot is for an obscure cartoon character from her childhood who she seems to have styled herself after. This might be why she’s usually on roller skates even in the hallways, or it might be because it annoys you. Or both.

>Carla is in a single room, and so she doesn’t have a roommate.

Attention seeking bully who acts out all the time is her default characterisation, but this is admirable?

>>83345142
I had it explained to me that "Folks" is one of those non-gender-whatever specific ways of addressing large groups of people. "Ladies and Gentlemen", for example, excludes those who don't identify as one or the other.

I know, I know.

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>>83344972
She had a problem with someone not wearing shoes and decided not to be friends with them and said christianity thinks homosexuality is a sin. Other then that she has been just making passive comments about wanting to be left alone.

Yes

The feud started with Carla skating down the hall, as this is there first real interaction

Now you understand why this comic is shit

>>83344972
Yeah, Carla started this and has been keeping it going, and Mary hasn't done anything wrong.

But Willis and his fanbase think it's all justified because Mary is a "bigot". In their mindset, even if people think in a way that isn't progressive, they deserve anything that happens to them.

>>83342400
>operation performed by xzibit

YOU DAWG I HEARD YOU WERE A PUSSY SO I GOT YOU A SEX CHANGE SO YOUR PUSSY ASS CAN BE A LITERAL PUSSY

>>83345329
>just making passive comments about wanting to be left alone.
You mean bitchy passive aggressive comments trying to make people bend over backwards for her instead of just buying ear plugs
I had to deal with cunts like her and they all shut the fuck up about this bullshit when they buy earplugs

>>83345735
I know it's a parody, but the real irony is that if Ruth would just do her fucking job, none of this drama would have gotten as far as it did.

>Carla would have been told to stop acting like an obnoxious cunt.
>Mary would have been told to stop bitching and go to the library.
>If she hadn't been sleeping around with students, Mary wouldn't have had blackmail material
>Becky wouldn't have been squatting illegally in someone's dorm.
>etc

>>83345779
The problem is that Mary is under no obligation to do so and Carla was breaking the rules. It's been said before: Mary's an asshole, Carla's a different kind of asshole, and Ruth is a monster. You can't have a story of justified comeuppance when your antagonist is equivalent/better than your protagonists.

>>83343599
That comic scares the shit out of me.

The best part about this is, it's probably making people hate transgender people more instead of less. I mean this isn't educating anybody or presenting any real morals, it's just Willis sucking himself off like the ouroboros. It makes me want to kill myself.

>>83345329
>Mary wants her friends to have a party

>>83344925

are you one of the faggots that kept reporting posts in these threads?

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>>83335979
>mfw Willis will never make them violently hate-fuck each other

>>83345329

Her deciding Sierra was the breaking point was so fucking weird. Oh man, no shoes?! What is she, franciscan?!

>>83346847
I agree with your sentiment, but do you really want to see more of Willis' porn?

>>83344972
More of a self righteous prig than a bigot. Someone so convinced that their point of view is the only possible correct one that you'd pity them if they weren't so insufferable.

Basically a female fundie Willis

>>83340425
What if I am cool with gay people but I myself am straight? Am I an associate of Dorothy?

>>83347113
You're Toto?

>>83342067
Even the dog knows.

Normal people:

>Ew, is that a pile of shit? I'm not going anywhere near that.

/co/:

>I'm so fucking tired of the way this shit tastes. Why can't shit taste good instead?
>It's because of the guy who shat it out. He's a moron who doesn't eat right. He should be getting more fiber.
>Everyone's eating like that nowadays. Look at his comment section, it's full of delusional people saying it's delicious. Why can't they understand this shit is awful?
>Hey guys, I found a corn kernel! I bet it'd taste kind of good if it wasn't covered in shit. Let's draw some cute fanart of the corn.
>I think he makes his shit disgusting on purpose. No one is going to care about it if it wasn't horrendous. His livelihood depends on people being shocked by how gross it tastes.

>>83340425
>learn your history

This will never be important to lnow to anyone ever.

>>83346685
That fat faggot can't reach his own dick.

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>>83347521
If you need coal, you dig in a coal mine. If you need hate, you participate in DoA threads.

>>83342067
>Bruce Willis could draw
he would make the greatest comic ever

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>>83335837

>You know my parents, right? Of course you do.

Wait, is Carla flaunting their family's privileged status at Mary?

>>83348067
Much like Disney and Apple used their corporate influence to threaten Georgia and North Carolina over their Religious Freedom legislation, Carl is threatening Mary with her financial clout.

>>83341710
What a fucking nigger.

>>83348122

That's just...and the worst part is Willis likely has no conception of what he's actually doing here, because in his mind Carla being trans and occasionally having to deal with mean-spirited comments outweighs all of the other significant advantages being born into an affluent and understanding family grants them.

>>83348067
>>83348122
How does that even work? Carla's parents presumably have some kind of engineering R&D firm while Mary is an art student. Plus Carla's parents would have to be amazingly rich and connected for anyone to care about a personal feud between two college kids.

Mary also seems like the megachurch type; I think it'd be a great story to see Carla cash in her privilege points to get her way only for Mary's church to close ranks. Let's see what Carla's family wealth is good for against an organization that could easily pull in their net worth in yearly revenue.

>>83346540
>>83346316
Why does Mary have to do anything? She is inside her own damn room, not bothering anybody. It doesn't matter if she was strutting around in a Klan outfit. She couldn't be more out of anyone's way unless she was hiding under her bed.

If someone was outside your house making noise and piling junk and attaching it to your door and hanging around constantly, you would be in your rights to call the cops. I could see if she was in a public space calling for quiet, but there is no where left she can run to to get away from Carla.

>>83348293

I think it'd be more interesting if it turns out Mary comes from a lower middle class background and this whole thing has basically just been a rich kid fucking around with a poor kid because they know they're untouchable due to both wealth and minority status.

Though maybe we already got information on Mary's family and I just missed it / can't remember?

>>83347870

God he's a shit golem.

>>83348409
Mary is functionally a minor supporting character. The Joe strips posted earlier show more development and nuance than all of Mary's appearances. She's basically Sierra-tier.

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My whole question is, did Mary even know Carla was trans when she tried to take her to the Boy's dorm?

Wasn't it revealed to the audience that Carla was trans after that?

Joyce didn't know

>>83348504

Well then I guess that will just be my headcanon, since I doubt it will ever be explored anyway.

>>83348533

Maybe Carla doesn't pass nearly so well as the art makes it look.

Why are 90% of Willis' characters girls? Is he some kind of pervert?

>>83348572
>Maybe Carla doesn't pass nearly so well as the art makes it look
Joyce said she doesn't have a room for "Some reason," implying she either didn't know Carla was trans or that she didn't think a trans person not being integrated into the general population was weird, and since she's a fundie, I'm assuming it's the former

>>83338690
I refuse to believe he always wrote Carla as a Trans person. Like, nothing really supports this other than the dicks on the white board scene. Which could just be taken as Carla being a whiny bitch.

>>83348658
Carla probably was always Trans.

She was a fucking Car that turned into a person in the last comic, so that translates as being a transsexual, I suppose.

>>83348409
Desperation to keep her scholarships could be why Mary wants to study so much (besides having the personal heroism to stand up to a corrupt RA and bullying public nuisance).

>>83348409
If you remove transgenderism from the equation and just consider Carla a girl, Carla is a bigger, tougher, louder, more obnoxious, more clever, more vindictive, richer, and more well-liked girl who breaks the rules because she can get away with it picking on a small girl who wants to keep to herself that everyone hates. It's fucked up from every angle, except somehow the trans aspect is supposed to make Carla the scrappy hero and Mary the oppressive villain.

It's utter nonsense.

>>83348695
Trans-Am

>>83348749
Transformer.

>>83348738
It's a copy of an earlier Sarah arc with the moral flipped.

>>83348658
Dicks on the whiteboard don't even support her being trans as she's also asexual.

>>83348533

It was revealed to the audience earlier in the comic, but whether or not all of the characters knew was unclear. Willis later confirmed that Mary did know but if you're really into Death-of-the-author then it could be considered ambiguous.

>>83348658
Its a hamfisted transformers joke, I suspect. That and the fact he made the car a girl in the last comic, and because he hasn't made an original character in years he just defaults to the last thing.

Christ, he made "Ultra Car" as a kid and has been including it in his comics since 1995. 21 years ago. He's been putting his magic car OC in his work for longer than some people here have been alive!

>>83335979
>Tranny
>Calling literally anybody a freak

Funnier than anything in this shit comic

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>>83342067
>That dog

Oh god I'm fucking dying

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>>83348738
I guess it all boils down to the level of oppression.

It's like an average in college; even though Carla got 4s in all her classes except physics, where she got a 2, she still gets a lower overall grade than Mary who got all 3.75s.

The worse that one bad grade is, the more it affects you.

Except, that's retarded

>>83338690
>If you don't hate her, it's because she hasn't been trying hard enough.
My god was it stupid of him to go with that kind of personality for her. At least with Mike, he's not involved with drama like "Mike acts like a jerk because he has AIDS" or whatever so that we have to feel sympathetic for him if anyone ever tried retaliating against his actions, he can just be a funny jerk. But here we have a character who wants attention but goes about it in the worst way, but just registers any dislike aimed at her as being discriminated against instead of the appropriate response for her actions. And no one will every even try sitting down with her and telling her to maybe try learning how to appropriately socialize with others if she wants attention that much, and not get so caught up with getting the attention of people who don't like her (like Mary) and try appreciating the attention of people who do get along with her.

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>>83348738
>except somehow the trans aspect is supposed to make Carla the scrappy hero and Mary the oppressive villain.

First of all, you have to understand that David is an authoritarian personality. He started as a right wing nutjob and he swung to being a left wing nutjob, but the consistent part is that he himself is a fucking nutjob independent of his politics. For his brain to work, he has to create a set of absolute, unbreakable rules that must be followed or else someone is evil and wrong and subhuman (thus, authoritarian). Since he's decided that someone making mild mockery of trannies is on the 'bad' list, that means the mere mention of it creates absolute shuddering revulsion in him, and he decides that it must do the same for any other right, good, worthy human being. There is no elaboration needed, it's self evident that they're evil and deserve death.

It's sort of like Chuck Asay. He made this comic without a moral, or even a moral against his point (the homos look happier then the breeders), because in his mind, the mere thought of gay people is so vile and wretch inducing and obviously fundamentally wrong that there is no more explanation needed, just put them on a panel and the work is done.

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>>83348944
It's utterly baffling how he refuses to make his villains actually villainous, unless they're comically so.

It's like he's saying that Mary is worse because she's a bigot and it doesn't matter how reserved she is about it, because it's wrong in and of itself.

And, you know, I can't quite argue that that isn't true, but if you were to give me the choice between rooming with a bigot, even one way worse than Mary, who keeps to herself and a Trans-Person who is annoying as all fuck, I'm taking the bigot.

>>83348807
See trans or gay I can understand at least in theory but asexuality I just don't understand.
Do they just not experience attraction or does the the idea of bumping part together gross them out?

>>83349153
If you don't experience attraction then presumably the idea of bumping parts together grosses you out. It's sort of like thinking about gay sex if you're straight, or vice versa, or whatever pervert degenerate shit you're not into if you're a filthy bifag.

>>83349093
>And, you know, I can't quite argue that that isn't true, but if you were to give me the choice between rooming with a bigot, even one way worse than Mary, who keeps to herself and a Trans-Person who is annoying as all fuck, I'm taking the bigot.
you could argue that her bigotry is out of ignorance and she can grow past it
while the people arguing with her think they're open minded and are actually being as vocally bigoted towards her as the people they rail against, instead of explaining what it's like for them or appreciating she's different and how she lives her life is not their concern (basically her outlook)

>>83348991
Ha! I always assumed that cartoon was an edit, hilarious that he really thought he was arguing with against gay adoption.

>>83348991
Hah, that's hilarious. My answer would genuinely be "the gay couple" based on this comic. Look at the blonde bear - see how attentive he's being? See how happy he looks to be holding his son? Meanwhile the wife is just completely staring off into space with a look that makes me think she's on Valium, or desperately wishes she was. Do you want her raising a child?

>>83349093
Eh, he's not doing too badly on that front. Ruth may be incompetent and deserve to be fired, but blackmailing her over it instead of just telling the authorities is pretty fucking awful too. She's lost her high ground as far as I'm concerned.

>>83349364
ruth is of age and allowed to drink, tho, right?
and colleges will punish you for calling polie and not campus security

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>>83349364
>She's lost her high ground as far as I'm concerned
That's only because Willis has contrived it to be that way.

The system literally doesn't work for Mary.

She's told her R.A. about the problem, and she actively refuses to do ANYTHING.

>>83349456
She's a sophomore, so probably 19 or 20. Not old enough to drink.

>>83349364
>Do you want her raising a child?
Honestly I just thought she was looking away for just a second to pose for the camera or was caught off guard by something out of the camera's view. One frame like that isn't really enough to gauge how much attention a parent gives during the whole day.

>>83348991
Still, I honestly thought that the point of this would be that both institutions are no different, not that it was anti-gay.

>>83349520
Mary got a slap in the face hard enough to leave a mark the last time she complained officially, didn't she?

>>83349548
ruth is just a sophomore?
then fuck yes they should call the police
she's been physically attacking people since her first real appearance
drinking illegally AND getting an alcoholic girl drunk so she could rape her?
and allowing others to attack mary?

>>83348944
>My god was it stupid of him to go with that kind of personality for her. At least with Mike, he's not involved with drama like "Mike acts like a jerk because he has AIDS"
well the same applay to carla. She is a jerk because she is a jerk, not because she is a trans.

>>83349364
It makes me think that the wife bailed on her husband and kids, and her ex-husband started dating a guy after the divorce was finalized.

>>83349456
Ruth is giving alcohol to Billie, a minor, and has committed at least two physical assaults against residents in public, one of which also included sexual harassment.

>>83349153
Mostly they lack the desire.

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>>83349574
Yes, so not only physically assaulted, but probably also sexually harrassed in SJW terms, since Ruth refused to deal with sexually inappropriate graffiti and actively participated in its propagation.

The poor woman is being assailed on all sides. It's no wonder she "broke."

Her Blackmailing Ruth is totally fine with me. The system is corrupt and actively against her.

Fuck Ruth.

>>83349605
But you're not meant to care emotionally about someone who's a jerk because they're a jerk. They're just an asshole, so it makes it harder to really care about the character in an emotional way when you make them the victim of some sort of prejudice unless it's severe enough that you sympathize out of human decency, and it actually stems from the antagonist's prejudice and not because the victim was intentionally antagonizing them.

>>83349520
Well, yes, it is only happening because it's contrived that way. But she's still no longer sympathetic except in the cosmic sense. The system didn't fail her, she chose to bypass the system (Ruth's supervisors) for her own selfish reasons, while condemning literally everyone else to continued suffering under Ruth's incompetent tyranny. That's not Justice.

>>83349208
I guess it's mostly a failure of imagination on my part. That and until about a year ago I'd never even heard the term asexual outside of zoology.

>>83349733
How is the system corrupt and against her? If she went to Ruth's supervisor and got dickslapped that'd be one thing, but she refuses to escalate because it'd ruin her racket.

>>83338690
>obscure cartoon character from her childhood that she modeled herself after

Turbo Teen?

>>83349955
They call themselves Aces.

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>>83349752
If Mary had started a petition to get Carla kicked out of the Girls' dorm solely because she was Trans, it would be different, but as it stands, it just seems like she did something inappropriate because she was fed up.

To wit, if Mary knew Carla was trans, which Willis says is true, why did she wait until Carla was actively harassing her to make a comment about it if she actually cared so much?

From what I can infer, Mary only made mention of the issue after trying alternate, non offensive, rule abiding, means of getting Carla to settle down before trying peaceful protest, studying in the path of Carla's skating, only to sink to her level in pouting glue on her skates later.

None of that worked, and that's when she misgendered her, right?

I mean, what the fuck?

>>83337449
>One is full of genuine violence and intentional attempts to emotionally wound and destroy hurt her. The other throws a pie in her face and shoots up some lights
No no, that's mixed up. Carla is the one out to legitimately emotionally harm Mary.

>>83349880
>>83349964
What racket?

What am I missing

>>83349979
Yeah that's how I first encountered it. Someone introduced themselves as Ace and I had to look it up

>>83342352
>Eh. She doesn't seem cunty enough to be trans in this comic.

Joss seems pretty nice for a tranny

>>83350052
I'm a very sexual guy,and I have a hard time believing in asexuality as a thing. But if people claim to be asexual I'm willing to accept it.

But calling themselves Aces seems self-aggrandizing.

Like I'm Supersex, or Bestsex.

How weird a college is this?

Three black kids, no Hispanics. Everyone's gay or trans.

My college had less than 5% african students.

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Don't know if this explanation helps or hurts his case.

>>83350210

Does he know what a proportional response is or am I a bigot for thinking that we don't have one here.

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>>83348738
That's the real kicker here.

Ignore for a moment the fact that Carla is trans and instead imagine her as she sees herself: A girl.

... a bigger, taller, tougher, richer, more popular girl with parents in a position of wealth, power, and authority going out of her way to get revenge on a smaller, shorter, weaker, poorer, unpopular girl for, basically, calling her a "tomboy".

>>83350210
>do you suck jesus' wang with that mouth?'
she's making fun of mary's religion and sexuality for no reason

>>83350210
insulting a person that's deliberately pissing you off isn't a hatecrime

>>83350210
I wholeheartedly disagree. If you are a piece of shit to someone, you deserve it when they respond in kind. If you don't like it, don't be shitty to people. That's all there is to it. If you punch someone in the nose, you have no right to be upset when they kick you in the gut.

>>83342707
Sadly this is not realistic. When a girl in real life says "don't worry, I'm on the pill," PUT ON TWO CONDOMS IMEDIATELY

>>83350210
I don't think he understands that it's hard to be sympathetic towards Carla. Writing a character that to want to cheer for when they face challenges is Writing 101. Willis acknowledges that Carla's an asshole, so why would we want to see her overcome?

>>83350344
Yeah but saying a Trans girl belongs in the boys dorm...isn't either. Isn't a hate crime just violence towards a person because of race or gender?

>>83350210
That just circling back to the argument we had at the time. Is kind of sort of misgendering by implication (and just possibly by accident) a hate crime or is it just rude?
Does Mary deserve to be throw to the wolves or should she just brush up her etiquette?

>>83350438
Because unlike fictional comics, his comics are a mirror of real life. Something he says to defend his shit constantly.

>>83350210
This guy is using the phrase "hate crime" really fucking loosely.

No one really argues that Mary's misgendering is a dick move, but I think saying it's a hate crime is a pretty long fucking stretch.

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>>83350210
>>83350207
Depends on where you're from.

We have a bunch of Black, Chinese, and Middle Eastern people, both Muslim and not, which isn't weid because it's fucking Detroit.


This swill takes place in fucking Indiana, which I'm pretty sure is not a place that has a lot of any kind of minority whatsoever.

>>83350210
I mean, he's not really wrong, in a noble minded Cloud World where no good person accidentally says anything mean because they're fed up.

In his mind Mary isn't ignorant or biased in a way that can be helped, she's an evil monster who hates Trannies because Jesus told her it's wrong to be a total faggot.

If this were any other kind of preachy bullshit comic, Mary would have felt super bad that she hurt Carla's feelings because she was fed up, and they'd all learn about how being a total faggot doesn't make you an abomination; but since this is Willis, Mary is fucking irredeemably monstrous

>>83346995
Honestly, I've jerked it to worse art than Willis.

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>>83348912

The oppression thing is unless you're really good at passing for the other sex people will think you're a weirdo and won't want to let you work for them, rent you apartments, or let you frequent their establishments, reducing your ability to accrue wealth. If you're lucky enough to be born wealthy your family might disown you for being an embarassment and you might not be able to use their connections anyway because their friends don't want to associate with you.

Carla doesn't seem to have these problems and might even have "passing privilege" which means people don't even know she's a treant.

The events in the comic don't really depict any kind of oppression. Mary could have said anything that touched a nerve and the comic could remain the same.
The implication that Carla is an embarassment and is in for a life of failure is a pretty hefty implication and would probably stick better if Mary was less coy about it and the comic did a better job of grounding itself in the real world.

>>83350210
Even if I was Carla's friend, by some weird twist of fate. There's no way to tell the story of that first interaction where I'm behind her all the way. Is what Mary said messed up? Sure. I wouldn't say it. Would I have done/supported anything that Carla did that lead up to it? NO FUCKING WAY. These are not diametrically opposed ideas, you can hold both of them in your mind at once. If you're not a dullard.

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>>83350725
>people don't even know she's a treant.
You'd think it'd be obvious.

>>83350210
So basically it would be acceptable to call Carla an obnoxious cunt that needs to die in a fire because then it wouldn't be misgendering.

>>83350210
I don't think Willis understands how insulting someone works. If you hate someone and they fucking piss you off you are going to say what you can to someone to hurt them the most. Hell, you could be fine and dandy with trannies but if a tranny is being a grade A cunt to you day in and day out you are going to use it against them because that is the point of an insult. You are trying to hurt the other person. You're not going to think "Oh I better not say that it might hurt their feelings."

>>83350519
>No one really argues that Mary's misgendering is a dick move,

U wot m8? MAry is simply refusing to walk on PC eggshells to appease some psychotic faggot that's antagonizing her.

>>83350508
Has anyone brought up Caitlyn Jenner to him? Someone who's privileged all around except for being trans. Even people in the movement don't like her because she doesn't reflect the issues that most trans people face and aren't sympathetic towards her because of that. I don't see how he doesn't see that this is an issue with Carla's character since she's privileged to hell and an asshole on top of that. The only thing she had to face so far (in the comic) is a vague insult that could be seen as misgendering.

>>83350210
I mentioned before that David has an authoritarian personality that transcends his personal politics ( >>83348991 ), and this is a perfect example. There is absolutely no middle ground or shades of gray or mitigating factors here- if you misgender someone, you are performing a hate crime and deserve to get your bowels pulled out through your mouth and fed to wild pigs. He's decided that this is the worst crime imaginable and must be punished as such, so he doesn't understand when other people confront him with the fact that she was asking for it, because there is no subtlety in this. She did the thing that he decided was a crime, now she has to be punished. He figures this is self evident and he's baffled when other people don't see it the same way, so he figures they must be evil people too.

>>83342809
I keep reading Joe's dialogue in Rocko from Undergrads voice

>>83349999

Nice get, bro.

Anyway, yeah, I honestly don't think Willis has ever experienced bigotry or ever even listened to an LGBT person explain their encounters with bigotry, like, even once. If Mary was the bigot that Willis is referring to, she would have attacked Carla for being trans, like, right out the gate. She would have taken every opportunity she got to malign Carla for being trans. Like, in her very first encounter with Carla, she would have called Carla a tranny or something. Bigots aren't subtle people, they want you to know that they hate you and they think that you're worth less than them.

Mary doesn't do that, like, at all. Instead, she only lashes out at Carla for being trans AFTER exhausting all of her normal diplomatic options. And it's clear that she wasn't playing nice because she was afraid of Ruth, given how she had that blackmail right up and ready to go. By Willis's own record, Mary tried to defuse the situation before lashing out in the most hurtful way possible.

Honestly, I think I am starting to get offended by how fucking lazy he is. I mean, he's on twitter and tumblr. He has to know that 4chan has the bigot capitol of the internet in the form of /pol/. It really isn't that hard to be exposed to actual bigotry and understand how it works. And really, him trying to tell me, an actual LGBT person who has faced bigotry, how bigotry works is kind of appalling. I mean, I don't take it too personally because he's a fucking idiot and it's just the internet, but if he talked down to people like that IRL he'd probably get slapped.

>>83351007
Because in the lexicon of people like Willis the ONLY time it's okay to misgender or misidentiify someone is if they're that particularly minority of conversation and disagreeing with you. Then, and ONLY then, is it okay to accuse them of being straight white males or sock puppets.

Just look at how they reacted to #NotYourShield.

>>83350925
Her comment was very obviously filled with vitriol, anon.

>>83351047
Nice to see his black and white Christian upbringing is still in full force. Dude is a psychologist's dream.

There's always going to be cognitivie dissonance about this because we're tlalking about this on 4chan. Here, identity politics are frowned upon. We generally don't know, and thus can't give a shit, about who someone is. Only their words and actions matter.

In Willis' circles, identity is everything. It determines your social caste and which cliques you get to be a part of before you even open your mouth.

>>83350210

>In David Willus' mind there is no space between "Not a perfect angel" and "The biggest, most rancid cunt in the fucking universe"

>>83351139

And you're perhaps trying to argue that that vitriol wasn't ENTIRELY justified?

>>83350210
Intentionally misgendering someone to piss them off is a shitty thing to do but he has to know it's not a hate crime.

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>>83351244
It's been said a hundred different times a hundred different ways, David Willis is a Fundamentalist.

He is everything Mommy trained him to be, except he's beating a different Drum.

I almost pity him, but he has no excuse.

>>83351227
Shouldn't your actions and words matter and not your sex/race/orientation/identity/etc? This shit is pushing us back.

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>>83351361
But, anon, Words hurt and have a lasting impact on a person's psyche.

I mean, Emmett Till Suffered, sure, but at least he didn't have to live with being misgendered once, in a fit of exasperation.

>>83351481

Not for these people.

For them what you have between your legs and what color your skin is determines your rank and your worth.

They've decided that there is an invisible system keeping them down through secret discrimination and the only way to push back is with a wide open and explicit discrimination.

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>>83351404
How old is Willis anyways? He acts like a teen rather than a grown ass man.

>>83351634
Teen is fucking generous, anon.

He's edging 40. He's also the father of twin Children.

>>83351272
No, it was justified anger.

Just a bit of a dick move to go to the gender when it's usually a pretty touchy subject. Mary knew it would be upsetting and used it, and that's a bit of a dick move.

There's no "walking on PC eggshells" there, she said it specifically to hurt.
No way that deserves the moniker of "hate crime" though and the fact that Willis doesn't get why people are against Carla here is baffling.

>>83351634
when your life is tumblr, transformers and webcomics, there's some lack of development and maturity