>watching cartoon >women are all cute/sexy >men are

>>83325750
Because viewers hate even female characters who are just mildly attractive, and blast the shit out of fat ugly and dopey looking ones. So if you want to make weird looking characters, you can only do so with the male ones. Osomatsu isn't out to be sexy, it's out to be funny, so the male characters all are funny-looking. But viewers don't like non-moe female characters, so they're still always pretty.

>>83325750
Because men are funny and easy to draw weird looking to make them funny, women have to be hot.

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>>83325750
men still have value when they're ugly

>>83327198
Y-Yeah

>>83325750
The mother is goofy looking.

>>83327198
Keep telling yourself that.

DAYOONNN

Men are allowed range, women not so much. Men can be heroes, villains, and everything in between, it's easier to swallow. Look at all the talk for female heroes, now how about the villains?

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>try to draw non fetishistic, weird looking women that fit the story all the time
>dudes are usually okay with it and don't really mind
>girls always go "I can't even tell that's supposed to be a girl, she's so ugly, make her prettier or something"

The reality is that as man is man's worst enemy, woman is woman's worst enemy.

>>83327198
I want to belive.

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>>83326933
While this points at the paradox of modern media feminism, it overlooks a lot of shit.

>>83325750
Actually that seems to be changing.
With female characters used in more than token numbers, their ability to be more than -or less than- "girl" increases.
LoK has very flawed women. The Bei Fongs for example are all abrasive and reckless.
Then there is The Loud House, where the inadequacies and quirks of the female characters dominate the show.
SU has women in all shapes and sizes. From spindly to brawny, from slim to fat.
And they all have their problems. Especially Sadie. Like fuck, she is a walking, talking disaster.
She can't communicate with her mother, loves the worst asshat in town and would rather kill an invisible alien monster with a sharpened stick than stand on a stage.
Pearl is a co-dependent bundle of complexes, Amethyst is a childish slob with self-esteem problems, Garnet is a bipolar time-bomb that falls apart into lusting dwarves with extreme personalities, Peridot literally can't into social interactions and is an amoral creep half the time, Lapis is a selfish psychopath with a deep-seated hatred against everyone and everything...
Steven and Greg are probably the most well-adjusted and balanced personalities on the show.

>>83327907
This is true. Female on female bullying is fucking savage. I once witnessed a group of girls convince a fat week girl to walk around school in heavy makeup and "slut" written on her forehead, and even though she was bawling her eyes out, she still did it for their approval.

Girls have strong mind break game.

>>83328195
>LoK has very flawed women. The Bei Fongs for example are all abrasive and reckless
You are ignoring that they are all still very attractive which was the main point of the OP

>>83327302
>>83327973
sorry, what i meant to say is

they CAN still have value when they're ugly

>>83325750
But the Matsuno brothers are cute and sexy.
Okay, only Karamatsu... but still

>>83328237
the internet really plays to womens strengths in being terrible people

>>83328371
I've seen dudes in highschool do the same kind of shit to other dudes and sometimes even the ugly girls.

Kids are monsters no matter what gender.

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>>83328371
Amen

>mfw venturing into /cgl/ any day of the week

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>>83328195
OP's talking more about the designs of female characters. The Crystal gems have designs that stand out but still "feel" female in one way or another (except maybe Ruby, I thought she was male at first,) which is a step in the right direction but not quite there yet. Look at this pic, notice how despite it's out-there design it still has feminine attributes in it, whether it be the small twig arms, somewhat-wide hips or the thin waist.

>>83328132
Not popular enough and also primarily a cat.

>>83328473
Nah man. Nah. Dudes will best you up and at worse go over the line with an insult. Girls will keikaku your shit into oblivion. It's an intrinsic thing, guys don't have as much adaptability to social situations as women and thusly women have an enormous advantage that, willingly or not, they grossly overuse sometimes.

This is all relative to assholes, mind you.

>>83328238
The guys in LoK are all pretty hot too, though.
That kinda balances it out, I guess.
And many of the female cast are not very attractive. Sure, they are not deformed, but enough of them are rather bland, outside facial symmetry. And many of them are old and wrinkly, most more venerable than sexy.

But my point is not that these things magically disappear. Rather there seem to be gradients. And SU would be further along the line, allowing more extreme body types and physical imperfection.

>>83325750
the mom looks dopey
and to be fair Totoko is the only other female cast member unless if you count the cat popstar

>>83328619
>And SU
You people can't go into any thread without mentioning your precious show even once.

>>83328619
Yeah so it has nothing to do with the kind of the cartoons OP was talking about. Everyone in it is pretty hot and normal looking.

>>83326278
If this were true there would be no female standup comics.

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>>83328489
>that one comic about the fema non raping her friend was actually from a real thread
>period blood recipes stealth fed to friends
>outrageous levels of deeply personal and sadistic insults that goes beyond shitposting
>all those posts about how how many fema non want to do guro shit to men
>Lolita dress public pissing

Cosplaying was a mistake

>>83328507
Sadie and her mother have a built like male Rugby players, though.
And Grannie Pizza is like a sausage with a hairdo.
The only make character reaching such physical extremes is Onion.

>>83327198
Man I wish that was true.

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>>83328554

Now you're making me think about that one. The best example I could think of was Clem from Habits, but she's not mainstream either.

Women can bully other women with little risk to their safety unlike where taunting a dude could mean getting your teeth knocked out.

>>83326933
That image is bullshit because it ignores that Guybrush only exists as a parody of, ie, as a direct response to, the idealized male adventurer protagonist that is already prevalent in society.

No one is offended because you're already tucked in to this sweet, soft yet firm pillow full of legitimate studs.

>>83328708
female stand ups are pretty fucking awful to be fair

>>83328371
This is true, /cgl/ is rude as fuck. Have you fellas ever been to Strawberry chan (at least I think that's the name, its basically an all female chan) where most of the discussion is making fun of female lolcows? They are the meanest motherfuckers I've seen online, and I used to browse old /b/.

Tumblr is also full of this, and I think its why SJWism is so strong there.

>>83328567
I don't know, maybe its a result of schools cracking down on fighting, but in my highschool the guys were just as cruel as the girls.

>>83328683
woosh

>>83325750
It would be a nice change of pace to see more ugly female characters that are as pathetic like the girl from Watamote, but I suppose that wouldn't go well with certain people. I've noticed even loser girls in western animation are better than average looking, and usually are hyper-intelligent to make up for their shitty social status.

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>>83329041
>implying that there isn't already a shitload of tough female heros

>>83328943
>Modern guys
>Ever hitting women

>>83329041
Nice kneejerking. Look at a typical heroine like, say, Nancy Drew. Now imagine someone doing a parody where she's a bumbling incompetent clown. You'd get the exact backlash that the image is talking about.

>>83325750
whatcha talking about, the matsu are sexy AF

>>83329414
Watamote is objectively cute though. Pretty much for the purpose the author realize no one would read the story if it featured some fat ugly guy as the main character.

>>83329451
>Kaine from Neir, while not female, is still notable
... is he a trap?

>>83329588
trans

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>>83329451

>(sans prime)

I don't get it.

>>83329588
>Female (As human)
>Intersex (As replicant)

http://nier.wikia.com/wiki/Kain%C3%A9

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>>83328750
what the fuck man

So that place is like a more vicious old /b/?

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>>83329451
Those are from relatively recent video games, I was talking about culture which is much older than that. Guybrush is a parody of those pirate book adventure protagonists more than just video games.

>>83329468
>Now imagine someone doing a parody where she's a bumbling incompetent clown.
I don't have to, there are several Kate Beaton comics with that literal exact premise.

Something new parodying something old. Although this is much newer than Guybrush.

>>83327198
If that were true I wouldn't be living off my parents, fapping to doujinshis for half of the day.

>>83329058
i disagree

>>83325750
>>83326278
so thi IS a thing in media but i dont know if Osumatsu is a good example of it

>>83329644
I think it's holdover when /v/ was still having some Other M fags trolling Metroid threads, I know it originally said Other M instead of Prime.

>>83329670
Visit for yourself, but yeah think of old /b/ but full of backstabbing twofaced women.

>>83329734
it was pretty common in cartoons from 50's

>>83329653
I'm confused yet aroused.

>>83329691
Yeah, but it's the [CURRENT YEAR] isn't it? So if you want to bitch about history you must also blame women for it, since they were part of it.

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>>83328750
>period blood recipes stealth fed to friends

what the FUCK??

>>83328371
Guys in my high school did the same hyper gossipy passive aggressive bullying to both genders. Like fucking crazy, all the time.

Humans being of either gender are horrible, worthless, disgusting little creatures.

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>>83329842
You're just mindlessly memeing at me. Please have an actual coherent point.

>>83329691
Dumb Nacy is great
id play the fuck outta a Dumb Nacy Game

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>>83325750
I feel bad for straight guys who want some variety.

I need to search for more semi-lewd pics of Chibita.

>>83325750

So basically:

>fictional men can be almost anything
>fictional women can only be one thing

YOUR OPPRESSION OLYMPICS GOLD MEDAL IS IN THE MAIL, DUDES

>>83329808
The Darkengard+NieR series is a fucking trip.

>>83325750
A holdover from old time sexism against women that is now changing.

That's all.

>>83329711
yeah but you gotta value yourself too man

>>83327457
Shieeeh

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>>83329691
Here have one from the goddamn master system.

There have been strong women prevalent in fiction for roughly the past seven thousand years. Because it's fiction. If it goes against culture it's controversial. If it doesn't, it's mainstream. But it never stops being a thing.

>>83329881
Sounds like you went to a school for queers

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>>83325750
The cool thing about anime/manga is that there are a lot of them and they are not limited by politically correctness, modern feminists and other SJWs so you can find pretty much anything you might want. Want a show where men are cute/sexy while the girl is a scary/creepy/weirdo/ugly? You got it! Want a show magical girl show except with sexy guys instead of girls? You can bet! Want a show where girls wear full body armor with no exposed skin and kick monster ass? It was a hit!

>>83329691
Got me at the last one.

>>83330055
>Here have one from the goddamn master system.
An old video game is still newer than fucking pirate books from over a hundred years ago, if you think you're contradicting me then you don't understand what I was trying to say.

Guybrush is a parody of an old, established system. Everything you're showing me with these groundbreaking strong female women protagonists is from the past forty years, relatively recent by comparison.

By the time Monkey Island was first released, strong women protagonists would still be considered a novelty. So you wouldn't have parodies of them at the same time that Guybrush was new. But strong male protagonists were not novelties, they were the established order. So a parody of them is only natural.

>>83325750
Uh, look out everyone the MRAs have arrived

>>83328750
>Lolita dress public pissing
Where, please?

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>>83329889
>Please have an actual coherent point.
My point is that women should calm their tits, when somewhere somehow a female being is portrayed as just human that isn't absolutely perfect and that this doesn't mean that they are being oppressed.

What is even your point?
It's bad that women are portrayed with explicit female traits?
It's bad that women are portrayed with explicit male traits?
It's bad that women are portrayed as something that either common or uncommon in society?
It's bad that women aren't portrayed at all?

You know what? Don't even tell me, because I don't even care about all those issues you have.

Okay wise guy, if the matsus are so ugly, why is there so much yaoi art of them?

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>>83330155
Strong women are older than fucking pirate books. Have one example around 1000 years before pirates age.

>>83330258
>What is even your point?
That the Guybrush picture is stupid because of >>83330155.

Who are you even talking to? It feels like you imagined some feminist strawman in my place and are throwing rehearsed counterarguments at it. I didn't say anything about women being oppressed or any of that shit you bulletpointed with such vigor.

>>83329924
Chibita lewds are rare, let me know when you find some

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>>83330155

>>83330267
You can find yaoi art of anyone.

>>83325750
fanservice and comedy respectively

>>83330190
But this has nothing to do with rights activism.

Or are you such a sexist that you think men can't be SJWs too?

>>83330305
Yeah and two thousand years ago in Greece men fucked each other without issue, that doesn't mean there wasn't an age of oppression afterwards that affects people within the past hundred years.

It feels like you just want to make a "Gotcha!" post rather than actually discuss something relevant.

>>83328507
I don't get it, you want females to not look like females?

>>83330311
>>83330155
Guybrush is just an example to explain the concept, meanwhile you cling to that example because it's "dumb" while you completely ignore the concept it represents. You could do the fucking same thing with any other goofy male character.... like fucking "Goofy" for example.

being ugly is the biggest sin a woman could commit in (visual) fiction

>>83330080
Nah they were straight guys, think it's because you couldn't get away with violence, more middle to upper class, too.

>>83330339
Yeah you got me, when people made Guybrush, some Chinese folklore Westerners only know through a not-yet-released Disney movie was definitely deeply ingrained in the target audience's minds.

I'm trying to talk about a specific society here, where a specific game was made.

>>83330438
>Guybrush is just an example to explain the concept
And it's a retarded example.

>meanwhile you cling to that example because it's "dumb"
No, I'm responding to it because that's the one that got used. Maybe make a new picture instead of memeing it up with a retarded one.

>>83330311
>I didn't say anything about women being oppressed.
True, but it's being implied in the Guybrush pic >>83326933 and that's what you are talking about or not?

>>83329691
>Dumb Nancy examples
1-off gag comics are barely comparable to an entire series of popular games with fleshed-out stories.

>I was talking about culture which is much older than that.
So what's the point, besides complaining that stuff was different in the past? If anything from modern culture is off-limits, then you're just navelgazing.

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>>83325750
I think older cartoons have a larger variety of different looking women.

>>83329146
I've been to that chan. The femanons who post there are fucking crazy —they basically rip apart anyone who isn't a 10/10. Some of them even endorse plastic surgery, it's horrible.

>>83330501
that makes more sense. In inner city school, boys just beat you up and talk shit to your face instead of gossiping behind your back.

>>83329041
You could parody an idealized male adventurer protagonist with a female character just as easily, because the main point is that the character is inherently unsuited for the role they're trying to be. The problem is that if you tried to do it with a woman, people would read a message into it that she's incompetent BECAUSE she's not a man.

>>83330547
What's being implied in the Guybrush picture is that no one cares about men, boo fucking hoo, while women get free passes because chicks get offended unless presented as perfect.

Which is bullshit for two reasons, one being that right now we have many imperfect female characters that are widely embraced by women, and two, Guybrush was made in a specific period responding to a specific culture as a parody would where guys were depicted as perfect and women in that role were treated as a novelty, EVEN IF they actually weren't halfway across the world two thousand years ago, that doesn't matter because the target audience doesn't know that so that's why they would treat women protagonists as a novelty.

But now they're not considered a novelty so you see more "Galbrush"-esque characters than during the specific period when Guybrush was made.

>>83330526
>And it's a retarded example.
Well, that's just your opinion.

>Maybe make a new picture instead of memeing it up with a retarded one.
1.I didn't created that pic.
2.You are the one who has a "problem" with that pic, so come up with a better one by yourself, that also has that fitting "Guy/Gal" gimmick in the name.

>>83330639
That's just not true anymore, we're no.

I mean fuck even a shitty cartoon like Teen Titans Go! has incompetent female characters that kids of both genders fucking adore because it's Teen Titans Go! YOUR NEW FAVORITE SHOW.

>>83330731
>Well, that's just your opinion.
Well yeah that's what I'm arguing for.

>1.I didn't created that pic.
And that stops you from making a better one how?

>2.You are the one who has a "problem" with that pic, so come up with a better one by yourself
I'm not the one who cares about whatever retarded point that picture is trying to make. If you want to communicate your ideas that's on you, don't post shitty pictures and get all defensive when people don't engage in the circlejerk you'd hope would come of it.

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>>83326933
speaking of Guybrush...

>>83330267
>if the matsus are so ugly, why is there so much yaoi art of them?
Because NEETs are desperate enough they will masturbate to these anime NEETs to feel better about themselves.

>>83330742
Even in Teen Titans Go, the girls are the go-to voices of reason when the plot needs one. (unless it's a plot the requires them both acting goofy, then it goes to Cyborg)

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>>83330397
You complained that the other guy example was too recent so I posted a very old example proving that strong female characters are nothing new, exactly what you were complaining about. Since your arguments are "wahhh it is not old enough" and "wahhh it is too old" I will give you an example exactly from the pirates age.

Jacquotte Delahaye was a pirate subject of many legendary stories including faking her own death to escape pursues, leading hundreds of men and taking over an island in the Caribeans.

>>83330864
>Even in Teen Titans Go, the girls are the go-to voices of reason when the plot needs one. (unless it's a plot the requires them both acting goofy, then it goes to Cyborg)
>(unless it's a plot the requires them both acting goofy, then it goes to Cyborg)
You realize that basically dismantles your point.

And Robin also plays the voice of reason when the plot is not about him being a control freak. Beast Boy is basically the only one who doesn't get to do it unless EVERYONE is being goofy.

>>83330874
>You complained that the other guy example was too recent so I posted a very old example proving that strong female characters are nothing new,
An example that's irrelevant and unknown for the time and people Guybrush is made for. They wouldn't make a Galbrush out of Mulan because Americans didn't fucking know who Mulan was at the time. You would think that would be a point that explains itself.

>>83330797
>Well yeah that's what I'm arguing for.
You sure do.

>And that stops you from making a better one how?
By being fine with it, which means I have no fucking reason to do so.

>I'm not the one who cares about whatever retarded point that picture is trying to make.
>Well yeah that's what I'm arguing for.
Yeah, sure.

>If you want to communicate your ideas that's on you, don't post shitty pictures and get all defensive when people don't engage in the circlejerk you'd hope would come of it.
Hell, I don't want to communicate anything here, the only point I made is that women get too fucking easy triggered by many things, because they interpret the entire human history into little details and that they should give no fucks about such things. Just like you do the entire time. You also interpret way too much into my objectives being on an anonymous image board.

>>83330955
Nah, the power of muh soggy knee is about equal to the power of the race card.

>>83331121
>Yeah, sure.
Are you the kind of guy who thinks caring is ANY kind of attention, when I clearly mean positive attention? Don't play semantics.

>Hell, I don't want to communicate anything here, the only point I made is that women get too fucking easy triggered by many things, because they interpret the entire human history into little details and that they should give no fucks about such things. Just like you do the entire time. You also interpret way too much into my objectives being on an anonymous image board.
Well you make my job a lot easier by saying a bunch of nothing.

>>83331165
The fuck are you even talking about now.

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>>83325750

guys can be ugly and likeable at the same time

but there is no way to make a girl ugly and likeable at the same time

just think about it man, would you like to see something like pic related all the time while you watch a cartoon

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>>83331277
just make them cute and it will work out

>>83330133
sauce for that pic?

>>83330672
How convenient that you know exactly what everyone in "target audience" was thinking and feeling during your conveniently-vague "specific time period" (which somehow excludes games made in the same timeframe as the MI series).

Given your shallow, simplistic view of how culture & society work, I get the feeling you're old enough to be on here.

>>83331367
literally the first result on google you knob

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>>83330672
>What's being implied in the Guybrush picture is that no one cares about men, boo fucking hoo, while women get free passes because chicks get offended unless presented as perfect.
No, just no.
What that pics implied is that authors can make and portray white straight male characters as stupid and goofy as they want, because the audience of white straight males aren't giving a single fuck, since they know it's just a fucking fictional character.

Which is the reason that they rather choose a white straight male character as main protagonist, because this way they can avoid bitching feminists, offended homosexuals or insulted minorities who either claim muh sexism, muh homophobia, muh racism.

The main problem of those groups of people isn't that they are being unfairly portrayed in movies/games/cartoons, but that they are so fucking thin skinned about it to just stand above all this and just enjoying it.

[trigger warning]
Pic fucking related for women. You are your own source of problem.

>>83331393
*not old enough

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>>83331339
that's not cute at all it hurts my eyes

>>83325750
Chibita is my husbando faget

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>>83331515
better?

>>83331515

Why can't fat people keep their color schemes in check!?

>>83329451
Too bad they left out FFVI, Shadow Hearts 2 and Odin Sphere.

>>83331668
could have said every vanillaware game. Actually could have said pretty much all weeb games

>>83331277
but Hanako was a pure cunt for the most part

>>83331747
Yeah, there are a lot of good female protags in them. The gaybros I used to play vidya with loved shit like Atelier and Disgaea because they have so many cute but badass girls.

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>>83331007
>Wahhhh! I can't use time as an excuse anymore so I will use location.

Female pirates was neither unknown nor irrelevant.

You are full of shit. Just give up!

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>>83331787
well yeah, but also girls are in many ways what gives motivation to a hero

like if you were the protagonist of p3 or p4 would you go around making social links with the girls if all of them were fat and ugly even if they didn't change their personalities speaking to them would be uncomfortable and if evenb if you do it it would be more of a chore than something fun or entretaining

or think of classic heroes like mario or shovel knight going trough a lot of shit just to save a fat and ugly girl, it wouldn't feel rewarding at all

>>83332247
If the protagonist of p3 or p4 were fat and ugly sure why not. It's almost cute when two of the gene pool's drain clogs hook up.

>>83332247
Also mario is a plumber from brooklyn, i guarantee he's paid for worse tail.

>>83331277
Certain guys would love a character that looks like that...

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>>83331277
O RLY

>>83332316
>waifu sim is turned into 2 ugly kids settling sim
those nips would burn down the store for that

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In the begin of the movie you are lead to think they are the bad guys. They are pirates and they are ugly. they turn out ot be pretty nice and the handsome guy is the main villain

>>83329748
I wasn't here during this time, but I do feel bad for many of metroid fans. First, the series is on a hiatus, then series' iconic characters sort of jokes, then a half-hearted 3ds game, and more hiatus that Nintendo does not really care anymore. I really feel bad for them.

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>>83332247
can work as a joke

>>83332594
It's almost unfair to bring Miyazaki movies into this, because all of his characters are likeable.

>>83331277
Silver Spoon had a chick who looked like that as a major supporting cast member. She was bro-tier as fuck.

>>83332638
i think nintendo knows they can never outdo the prime series.

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>>83331539
>you'll never eat at Chibita's Udon stand.

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>>83331277
>would you like to see something like pic related all the time while you watch a cartoon
No, but not because it's a ugly woman. More because it's just a ridiculous looking being. I just hate characters who doesn't look even human at all, with all weird body shapes or faces. Pic related, I just HATE this fucker.

A women doesn't have to be a 11/10 beauty, but she should at least not look like a mutated traffic accident.

>>83332650
What about the handsome dick from the same movie?

>>83332707
I think the bette solution is to sell metroid to other companies or groups that have the power to make the series great again.

DAI~YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

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>>83332659
Oh yeah, her words might sound cruel or cold but her actions show that she is actually pretty nice. Also she is extremely competent and reliable.

>>83330672
>we have many imperfect female characters that are widely embraced by women

Like what?

>>83331277
She looks like a huge BITCH so no.

You want to know the difference between an attractive woman and an ugly woman? Attractive women are HAPPY.

That's it. That's the only difference. That is what men respond to more than anything else, and if you're faking it to be nice, we can tell, because all the years of scowling and anger, they show on your face. Your muscles get trained for it. Resting Bitch Face is a real thing.

If you're fat, if you're old, if you have one eye and three teeth, it doesn't matter. Whether we want to look at you or approach you is still entirely dependent on your personality.

>>83332847
Its Nintendo, they'll probably take metroid to the grave.

>>83331277
>ugly and likeable
hello? Princess Fiona? She does have her issues at time, but she is not too bad. On the other hand, there are plenty of attractive yet abominable female characters get away with their actions because of popularity.

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>>83332882
Hey look at that, 100x cuter just by smiling.

>>83332906
I think that is the best solution at least point, since there is no point to beat a dead horse at this point.

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>>83332782
what a weird thing to say

>>83333032
>this point
sorry for the typo, but, I am here to say it again. Let metroid dies for good, there is no good thing to prolong a nearly dead series.

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>>83333015
and just for the sake of completeness

>>83333032
I suppose them making no more games is a better fate than yearly rehashes with no soul.

>>83333015
That is true for most people, but she doesn't smile often. I don't even remember an occasion where she was smiling even when food was involved.

>>83332903
>>83333015

my point exactly, fat girls are rarely happy, why? because they are always jealous of how the cute girls always get all the attention, they know they can't compete and they are also too lazy to excesise, so most of the time they end up developing terrible personalities because of their insecurities

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>>83332903
>literally not smiling in one image
>must be a huge bitch

>>83333142
pretty much, just like megaman. It pains me to see the only purpose megaman resurfaces is just to get merchandise. Even it is a part of company business, it still saddens me.

huh, i jst realized

soon we wil get >>83333333

>>83333015
But the character in question ended up being likable despite her stern personality, because she was ambitious and got shit done.

>>83333283
h-here I go

>>83333312
nice try

oh shit

>>83333333

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>>83325750
You fuck it up OP at the exact second this is not an Osomatsu-San thread,

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>>83333182
>>83333182
In the case of the Silver Spoon girl she capable of losing weight and look gorgeous pretty fast, she just chooses to be fat as she complains that her thin form is weak and lacks energy.

>>83333291
Right, I'm trying to make a slightly different point.

What I'm saying is, just by changing a fat ugly girl's expression, you instantly make her more appealing and identifiable. Being likeable as a character has nothing to do with body type and everything to do with personality.

Fat Princess

>>83326933
I would like to see one example of this happening rather than making one big-ass assumption.

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>>83333565
Pochacco seems to be pretty popular as a ufo catcher prize. Too bad that most of her stuff is too lewd...

>>83333592
wakamote?

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>>83329468
Any more terrible nightmares of how persecuted you are you need me to soothe away, you delicate, delicate little flower?

>>83333674
People called Watamote sexist because she was an autistic nerd?

>>83333674
actually girls can get away with being absolute shit as long as their are cute

tomoko is cute, so no one cares if her life is a complete mess

>>83333778
A quick google search and I already found people complaining about hot it is sexist and promotes rape culture and all that shit.

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>>83333897
>actually girls can get away with being absolute shit as long as their are cute
True

>tomoko is cute, so no one cares if her life is a complete mess
Not exactly. She is average in the series universe when she takes care of herself normally and ugly when she tries too hard but she is so hopeless that she becomes moe even if she is a dick half of the time.

>>83333778
I think kotaku had a shitfit about it when it first aired.

>>83329451
that's not the point, the point is there aren't any prominent flawed, goofy, underachieving female heroes

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>>83333721
that had to have been bait to get people to post nancy comics

>>83333911
To be far, she is sick. Like, beyond 4chan beta >>>/trash/ sickness. But this is the point of the series

Watamote is probaly the best representation of a desperate loser. She is addicted to pornography, has little sense of reality, and always fantasizes about the most unhealthy things you can imagine, like being raped by her own brother. The only difference is that she is the protagonist, while in other stories the nerd pervert is just a side joke, harmless and open. And also, she is a girl. Not a cute loli with boobs, a cringy, freaky, scary little girl.

This show hurts deep man, deep inside

>>83333541
Man usually when I see a girl in that pose her foot in on a dick. Now I'm gonna go jack off.

>>83327302
>>83327402
>>83327973
>>83328837
>>83329711
There is plenty of men who are ugly and are valuable, I think you're thinking of women, since I can't think of a butt ugly woman who has value.

>>83329451
>momohime from muramasa
You didn't play as momohime though.
Goddamn, these fucking retards who never played the game, holy shit.

>>83329878
That reminds me of this femanon who froze her tampons and ate the blood or some shit. there was also this long series of post where this anon put rotting meat and maggots inside her ans had to go to the hopital. I had the image but lost it

>>83329451
>No mention of Lyn from Fire Emblem

Can Osomatsu-San be considered /co/ approved anime? It's so fucking Warner Bros that there was a Duck Amok style episode.

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>>83325750
Pic unrelated, right.

>>83335014
I would pay real money for an Osomatsu-San x Joshimatsu-San doujin.

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>>83329644
meanwhile, in metroid universe

>>83334921
>there was also this long series of post where this anon put rotting meat and maggots inside her ans had to go to the hopital. I had the image but lost it

FUCKING WHY WOULD ANYONE DO THAT?

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>>83334992
Pretty much every playable FE girl is a stronk independent woman.
Except Rinkah, she can't do shit.

>>83330803
Goddammit why does Uncharted keep flipflopping between paranormal and not paranormal? I was expecting a sea serpent or some shit at least.

>>83335166
>Pretty much every playable FE girl is a stronk independent woman.
This isn't true for post-awakening girls.

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>>83335166
>Rinka bullying even on /co/

Poor thing.

>>83334921
Wait, did she eat the rotten meat KNOWING there was maggots in it?

>>83334921
>>83328750
Femanons seem really depraved.

>>83335345
I think it was up her butt or pussy, not sure but the writer did a typo in a key word.

>>83332888

Not whoever that was, but Black Widow, Katniss Everdeen, Peggy Carter, and Jessica Jones are the most recent ones I can think up off the top of my head.

>>83328750
Where will YOU be when diarrhea strikes?

>>83325750
If it wasn't for the girl Or the fact I browse 4chan would have suspected this show of being western instead of Japanese.

>>83327402
>What are philosophers?

>>83330498
this

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>>83335014
>karamatsu girls filename but didn't even include a pic of karamatsu's wife

>>83330133
>Anime where girls wear full body armor with no exposed skin

I struggle to believe you, but since armor is my fetish I beg you to name this show(s)

>>83325750
>saying that while posting osomatsu
Nigger so many people want to fuck the Matsu it isn't funny. It ruins the fucking threads in fact.

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>>83336933
Not that guy but I like Bubblegum Crisis.

>>83337210
Basic gist of the show?

>>83337242
It's about a mercenary group with power suits fighting cyborgs in an cyberpunk setting. It's eighties as fuck.

>>83334880
The question was just for strong female characters, not strong female playable characters
That having been said I think you're scraping the barrel when you bring up an actual dog (amaterasu)

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>>83325750

I think One Piece is a disgrace moreso. You have either landwhale blubber freaks, generic corset body mannequin bitches with barely different faces, or on rare occasion, generic corset body mannequin bitch with features uncreatively squashed around for the sake of variety. There are no female characters who fall between "obviously normally beautiful" and "obviously atypically attractive", except for monster gals.

>>83332638

At least in other M you could jump around your enemies and feel like a badass with dem powerups. Metroid Prime 3, now that is a shitfest. It's Halo-fied Metroid except there are hardly any good battles.

>>83337494
Are you talking about Hunters or Corruption?

>>83325750
Latin-American comics are all like that.
Women are either Super sexy Pin-Ups or super fat old witches (ex. Condorito)
Sometimes men are also clones, but all super ugly and cartoony. I don't know what that could say about the authors...
It just feels really fuckin lazy

>>83337457
Oda at least is trying to move away from that.

>>83330133
I'm still waiting for a Japanese company to make an animation that is also a documentary or educational show. Don't care if it's SOL or Mecha, just want an anime which also teaches me something new.

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>>83337611
Pepe Cortisona can be very hot if you're into bara guys tho

>>83337642
I- I've never though about that before. F-fuck off!

>>83335637
It was her pussy, and she new it was. She purposely dug through trash and did it

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>>83336933
Not anime, but have you ever read Berserk?

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>>83336728
Just to show how people are ignorant about what constitutes "anime style" They don't even know what actually is mainstream anime in Japan.

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>>83337402
She is a goddess that can come in wolf form. Just like Zeus can cum as a swan.

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>>83337631
Moyashimon

>>83333592
Remember dragons crown

>>83325750
>"why are cartoon men ugly"
>literally posts the matsus
The only people that dont want to fuck them are people with poor taste.

>>83328708
But, most of their jokes could rely on the way they look, especially if they're fat.

>>83339978
that show was funny

>>83330133
I see your point, but when you like brown girls, anime usually leaves you fucked.

>>83331457
all are accurate except the fake geek girl one.

>>83331457
The thing I don't get about this image is the band members birthday but who the fuck is that obsesed with a band they know the members birthdays.

I sure as fuck don't know Arthur Curry's birthday

inb4 dumb characterfag

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>>83337631
I recommend Tetsuko no Tabi, the "Nobuyuki Hiyama screams at you about trains" simulator.

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>>83340137
What do you mean?

>it's a anime thread on /co/

>>83340137
But there is alot of brown girls in anime.

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>>83336728
It looks like Doraemon. You can't get more mainstream anime than Doraemon.

>>83340264
Well this is imageboard for japanese stuff so get used to it.

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>>83340282
Indeed.

>>83325750
Because the animation industry is still male-dominated, and men don't care about unattractive women.

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>>83330600
Another evidence that SJWs are the ones causing the problems they complain about by the galbrush paradox.

>>83331277
The SU girls are ugly and unlikeable but still popular among ugly and unlikeable people.

>>83330600
>I think older cartoons have a larger variety of different looking women.
>that picture
It's literally just the same three women: beautiful young girl, nice old lady with round nose, mean old witch with sharp nose.

>>83340848
There are mean old ladies with round noses too.

>>83331277
>just think about it man, would you like to see something like pic related all the time while you watch a cartoon
Did you actually play the game? Hanako was an ugly mean bully who only existed to be an ugly mean bully to the beautiful main girl characters and we cheer when she gets shown up and that's her whole role.

"Ugly and likeable at the same time" jesus you chose the worst possible example to demonstrate your point, just like the "Galbrush Paradox" guys.

>>83340282
>>83340245

name all of the ones that have brown girls as a major character and I will watch them immediately

Cartoons in general have more brown waifus than anime does

>>83326933
How about Edna from the Edna and Harvey games. She is a dork like all point and click main characters and also mentally insane.

you can get away with making male characters whatever you like.
When you depict women, those characters suddenly represent all of woman-kind.

>>83340017
>>83340229
Thanks anons.

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>>83340990
Jungle wa itsumo Hale nochi guu
fushigi no umi no Nadia
Michiko & Hatchin
sayonara zetsubou sensei
Cowboy Bebop
Love Hina
Abenobashi Mahou Shouten Gai
Tenchi Muyo
Aa megami Sama
Shokugeki no Souma
Pokemon (Iris)
Basquash!
.hack
Magical Pokaan
Gunsmith Cats
Utena
Hellsing
Eureka seven
Petite Princess Yucie
I heard that Tamako Market have one too
Some others I forgot/don't know

>>83340137
>when you like brown girls, anime usually leaves you fucked.
>Since fucking when
A fetish for an ethnicity is the worst fetish but if you have it the Japs fucking spoil you for choice with browns

>>83341366
Fuck dident mean to greentext the since fucking when bit

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>Guybrush is a parody
No, he isn't. He's an awkward teen who wants to be a pirate, a comedic character who bumbles through situations like a lot of point and click characters at the time.
The only straight genre parodies at the time were Roger Wilco and Leisure Suit Larry iirc.

/co/ shouldn't be allowed to discuss games due to the prevalence of retarded tumblerellas on here.

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>>83341272
The list increases if you include manga. For example the special forces from Monster Musume didn't have much time in the anime but they become more fleshed characters in the manga.

>>83330155
>pirate books from over a hundred years ago
Monkey Island isn't based on "pirate books" but Ron Gilbert's view of the Disney "Pirates of the Carribean ride", hence all the anachronisms, you absolute plebeian fuckface.

>>83341652
>It's not based on pirate books it's based on something that's based on pirate books
Okay.

>>83341624
The whole game is a parody dumb fuck.
"The protagonist of the parody isn't a parody he's comedic" what as opposed to an unfunny protagonist in a parody? Fucking.

>>83341696
>it's not based on pirate books it's a vague amalgamation of Errol Flynn swashbuckling flicks, the slang of Robert Newton and literally everything else made up
>Clearly this is a parody of pirate books i've never read and know nothing about
>the whole game is a parody
>a parody of a genre that didn't exist outside the minds of a couple of Disney engineers

>>83341838
Fucking don't even try to pretend Treasure Island isn't a huge influence on every pirate shit of the time. Obtuse nitpicking fuck.

>>83341860
Treasure Island isn't a huge influence on Monkey Island, no, the looks are almost all from films of the time. The only noticeable inspiration is Robert Newton's pirate slang which he created for the Long John Silver movies, including the Treasure Island adaptation.
Have you even read Robert Stevenson?

>>83341272
>Yucie
I feel old, very old.

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>>83340842
>The SU girls are ugly and unlikeable but still popular among ugly and unlikeable people.

>>83337448
Why is Karamatsu such a darling?

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>>83340842

>>83325750
Women don't buy products with ugly females in them.

>>83328708
well, there are very few and they're not popular

>>83329146
Link to Strawberrychan? I get a bunch of different results with anime girls.

>>83328238
also nipaboos love Tsundere

>>83341272
>Love Hina
>Su is a main character
su was a slut and a whore

Is Peggy Hill sexy?

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>>83346112
you tell me

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>>83329538
By anime standards she was still "ugly". Unladylike, unkempt, and unhappy. It's a step. But probably a step backwards because even that amount of imperfection made the series fail commercially. Nobody will try that again.

>>83346220
let's see those feet and I'll tell ya

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>>83337631
I think that Space Brothers did that for me with respects to the Astronaut training program. Watching that series just felt so moon

>>83340245
>guu eating the maraca

yep, pretty typical

glad I got to watch the show in all its insanity, dubbed and subbed.

>>83346400
Ok, then no. She isn't sexy.

>>83337631
There's one that teaches you about mental illnesses, but it had a weird name that I can't remember. The whole show was just a psychiatrist explaining different mental disorders to his dumb fanservice nurses in funny ways. I remember one episode was about the medical definition of pedophilia and the criteria for it to qualify as a mental disorder.

>>83346719
I found it. It's called "Comical Psychosomatic Medicine".

>>83334286
the most realistic thing about her was her immense arrogance. she caused at least half of her own problems by refusing to sink to the level of the people she wanted to interact with.

the other half though? don't be unattractive. either physically or socially.

>>83337631
Futari Ecchi had a 4 episode anime adaption. It's an educational manga about a virgin newlywed couple who are experimenting with sex for the first time. It constantly stops to show graphs full of statistics and give the reader advice about what to do in certain situations.

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>>83329451

>Sans Prime

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>>83325750
JUICYBOY I CANT BELIEVE THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING ITS YOU!!!! MY BABY BOI RIGHT HERE! IN MY HOME! MY VERY OWN NAZI SLUT HERE TO SAVE THE DAY I MISSED YOU!! MWAH! MWAHMWAH!!!!!!!

>>83347454
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

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>>83347691
you dont understand i truly love him with all my heart he's my boy <3

>>83343983
but he's right senpai

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which one?

>>83346112
In an average sort of way.

>>83336769
>the average /r9k/ user
>philosopher

>>83348555
>r9k
>produces nothing of value
>sits around endlessly pontification about the same topics
>actively reject the concepts of scientific testing and evidence
>instead decide how things must be given their personal worldview
>dismiss any challenges no matter how well-founded
They sound like philosophers to me.

>>83333721
MGTOW don't want to be anything but persecuted, kind of like tumblrinas.
Let them have their fun, their constant whining creates a strange equilibrium.

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>>83334921
I got you bro

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>>83349008
>produces nothing of value
Fuck you buddy, we have the most avant garde OC.

>>83348025
I don't know if Karamatsu's personality would be a plus or minus in a bondage situation.

>>83341049
Daedalic don't give a shit about political correctness

John Walker on RPS has a pathological hatred of them because they had a black woman act as a monkey for an organ grinder as a puzzle solution

>>83348025
Why is Kara such a slut?

>>83349111
oh christ why

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>>83349111

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>>83325750
i wish this rule also applied to real life


imagine a world with no fat or ugly girls or even better a worlsd with no fat or ugly people at all

>>83349189
And the "black guy and white guy who think they are siamese twins" joke was probably not popular among game journalist either.

>>83350534
There would be no 4chan.

>>83349111
>/cgl/ - cosplaying and disease vectors

>>83349111
i'm like 90% sure i've seen someone youtube video of someone reading this out loud

>>83350565
you are saying it like that's something bad


also im sure it would exist, being introverted or socially akward is not always related to being ugly

>>83325750
Women have a higher standard of beauty then men.

It's messed up but true.

>>83346294
What?
1. The anime was made because the manga was booming.
2. The manga even had a spin off
3. It is not the first time we had a weird unkept ugly unlaidylike protagonist and the preview one was a success with anime and live action.
4. Still going strong.
5. Not the last, there are others going on with different levels of social issues.

>>83345973
Still a major character and a cute.

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>>83346395
This is a generic Aspergyllus

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>>83351805
And this is the niger one.

>>83326933
My god.... you're right.

>>83340068
Those complaints had nothing to do with her role or personality or ability. (you know, like the fucking guybrush image above?) And everything to do with her tits and ass weighing 90lbs on their own. Which is a totally separate issue than the guybrush thing you illiterate.

>>83328132
Prequel isn't exactly mainstream and Kazerad has complete creative control. I think the Galbrush argument is more for characters known to the general public.

>>83329977
3 is sitting on my shelf half finished because its so bad
Its just bad weird instead of weirdly bad

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>>83349008
>>actively reject the concepts of scientific testing and evidence
Remember when philosophers where the first people to actual do science?

>>83349126
well that exists now, so thanks I guess?

>>83325750
>Totoko
>Sexy

>>83355669
They qualified with cute however the show appears to have a share of goofy girls too but I don't watch it so I have no context.
So maybe OP is a fag. Maybe he's not.

>>83337631
>>83346719
Kuchuu Buranko (Trapeze) is along the same lines but actually good

>>83343983
He's right, but he forgets that beautiful and likable people like the SU girls too

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>>83329878
>what the FUCK??

Hey, guys shouldn't be the only ones allowed to have fun!

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>>83334689
Your mom has value, tho

>>83325750

this remind me how Marge Simpson and Louis of FG have top-model curvy bodies when are 40-years-old women with three children

Did I miss a Monkey Island thread or a whining about something inconsequential thread?

>>83356352
Because they work out.

Pregnancy didn't ruin your body, eating a bunch of shit and not moving for 9 months did.

>>83328507
what, so are ugly male designs supposed to look like females?

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>>83356146
This would be a huge turn on for me in a work of fiction, but reading about it in reality is whole other ball park that I have no desire to stick around in. What the fuck.

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>>83328237
That's the thing.

No one is harder on a sex than their own sex.
Women are completely savage towards each other, and the same can be said of men.
Look at this site, anytime we see a guy act feminine or overly annoying we'll usually rip them apart verbally or jack off to him [\spoiler] more than we would a girl.
Honesty, I've seen way more women call other women sluts than men have.

>>83326933
It's more an issue with the culture than anything. It's easier for people to see white males as individuals in media, and anyone else is seen as an example of their race or gender.

The easiest way to avoid this while making a flawed non-white/non-male character is to create additional character of the same race or gender that doesn't exhibit these flaws, optimally with different, opposing flaws, to avoid making either an unflawed "Mary sue" character, or making the "normal" character be viewed as the abnormal one.

>>83332639

The funniest part of that is, the game revolves around playing as the blue penguin and avoiding food scattered around levels, because the pink penguin won't date you if you eat too much and get too fat

>>83338658
>Spends 2/3rds of the manga running around retarded and wearing glorified pajamas
>Literally had to be kept on a leash by Guts at one point so she doesn't just wander off
>Entire Conviction arc was "Casca is too stupid to take care of herself"

>>83333194

The squinting eyes and raised chin don't help, it makes her look smug

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>>83325750
Totoko is cute not average in episode 24 there is a couple of ugly girls
Matsus are ugly/average

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>>83341272
jungle de ikou

New season of Osomatsu-san when?