https://twitter.com/nickspencer/sta tus/735497936185004032

>>83159116
>All this butthurt in the replys
So, how many of these guys actually read the issue and didn't hear about it through articles? I mean, I didn't read the issue myself as well, but I don't go ahead and pretend like I know shit about this.

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I love this
#HailHydra is actually trending
Also I never thought I get to use this gif

I like how he doesn't give a fuck.

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>>83159116
>https://twitter.com/nickspencer/status/735497936185004032
I am starting to think that this stupid thing was worth of the butthurt, even more of the moviefags and SJWs.

>>83160898
Of course he doesn't
He knows all that anger is gonna translate into sales and marvel has his back

Yeah, but people are still going to buy it and read it because hate-buying is a thing for some fucking reason.

Look at Superior Spider-Man for a fantastic example.

>>83161001
>All those Tumblr MCU God's

They probably couldn't even be bothered to torrent the damn thing, they just get outraged when it's trending.

Does this mean Zemo is going to immediately drop all connections to Hydra?

>>83160898
>>83161001
>>83161114
Remember when everyone was accusing Sam of being a rapist for hooking up with Zola's legally aged daughter? Neither do the same group of people who bitched and moaned about it a couple of years ago.

>>83161313
it means he'll become good again to take Cap's place as best hero yeah

>>83161547
>Striking with precision against the many ills of modern society! Citizen V!
>I am totally not the 13th Baron of the Zemo line in a different suit!

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>>83159116
So this is just some undercover thing, right?

There's some ruse that he's going to pull on us that's still in the works?

Because I just blew in from /m/ and if this is a legitimate development that they're trying to pass off I think I might kill myself.

>>83161700
He's being mind controlled by the Red Skull into believing he's a Hydra sleeper agent.

>People don't seem to understand that good guys turning bad for a storyline has been a common comic plot since the DAWN OF TIME

>>83159116
Why it is so delicious to see the butthurt? Goddamn I wish I was that guy.

Newbs doesn't know that this kind of thing has been Marvel marketing for ages.

>>83161793
That's why I was asking, I haven't read Marvel comics since before they made Sam into the new Cap, and I was wondering if this was some retcon they'd made with that whole Secret Wars bullshit or just another brainwashed hero plot.

>>83161793
>>83161857
Also I forgot to ask, wasn't Red Skull dead or leading the X-Men or something? How is he back this time?

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>>83159116
>make retarded unoriginal storyline
>get called out on it
>respond with HURR U MAD

Internet denizens shouldn't be running entertainment companies

>>83161982
What entertainment company is Spencer running? Because that's one I want to support.

>>83161904
He slept with Jean Grey's corpse (Yeah, fucking retarded, welcome to Marvel) and gained all her psychic power then he used it to rip Professor X's face off and take over his body. Now he's controlling him from the inside like the alien from MIB

>>83161700
>if this is a legitimate development that they're trying to pass off I think I might kill myself.
What's wrong anon, can't handle good storytelling?

>Hydra ingeniously recruits Steve either Hydra exists, in order to avoid arousing suspicion
>Allows Captain America to beat them time and time again to lower their guards and give them a false sense of security
>Tactically plant the letter A on his foreheard (which stands for Ail Hydra) in case anyone forgets he's actually working for Hydra

Hydra always wins, baby.

>>83161982
One question and please answer honestly: Did you read it?

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>>83161982
We all know that is retarded, but seeing those tweets made me realize that they are all butthurt people who only care about the movies and never read a comic on their lives.

So I will enjoy the pain and apreciatte how he mocks them.

>>83162067
Why yes I did good gentlesir

>>83162067
Not him but yeah i just pirated it, fuck giving the big 2 sales

>>83162065
Do "Hydra fags" need to be a thing now?

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>>83161700
but hydra are the good guys now

>>83162067
I like steve rogers.

Badly writen comics sell better than well writen ones.

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>>83159116
>worked for a Democrat Politican
>wrote Captain Falcon fighting meanie republicans at the border protecting "UNDOCUMENTED" immigrants
>Makes Captain America, a straight white male, a nazi
yup, checks out

>>83162067
I read this article
http://time.com/4347224/captain-america-hydra-agent-marvel-tom-brevoort/

>>83160790
What would reading the issue change? It sucked before that as well.

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>>83162286
and this is the panel right before the one you just posted i think

hmm i wonder what US presidential candidate that everyone in the media already hates THIS could be about.. there's no subtlety about this guy's propaganda

I'm genuinely surprised this is sturring up such a strong reaction from comics fans. You guys have been in this game long enough to know it's temporary. Batman just stopped being a god and it wasn't that long ago when Spider-man was Doc Ock.

captcha 2814

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Remember when Anti-Nationalists were the bad guys and not the protagonist?

>>83162286
>yfw this is all some ruse from Spencer to give Red Skull a heel-face turn
I know it's bullshit due to his personal politics, but it'd sure be entertaining

>>83162286

Are we trying to make this a meme, now?

>>83162286
You know we weren't at war yet when Captain America was punching Hitler on the cover of his first appearance, right?

Cap's always been somewhat political.

>>83162456
>"he's talking about all the stuff we used to -- taking our country back, getting rid of all this political correctness bull"
reminder that if you support trump you literally are trying to start another holocaust

>>83162462
This

>>83162462

>you guys have been in this game long enough

HAHAHAHA

Who do you think you're talking to? Since the movies most marvelfags are moviefags that barely read a comicbook and just get mad at every change

>>83162524
I unironically want a holocaust though

>>83162648
Some of the facebook comics groups I'm a member of, where the average age is probably in the late 40s have been getting testy today.

>>83162675
>shh don't reveal your power level
That is messed up though

Mass deportation of inner city blacks and liberals maybe.. plus sinking the entire state of california is okay

full on holocaust isnt cool though

>>83162833
Bruh, like half of California is basically the midwest or the south

>>83162382
>HYDRA
>nazis
Found the moviefag.

>>83161313
Zemo and Cap become Marvel's Two man Power Trip

>>83162888
California is unsalvageable, and it's not even the minorities like you'd think from the topic being discussed. The entire culture of the state is just taking pride in being human refuse.

>>83162888
I know northern california is full of pretty reasonable people, but honestly just sink the whole fucking thing, its a fucking cancer state and that cancer is seeping into texas

>>83162675
that's how we got in this mess jackass

>>83163024
I live in California.

You'd be surprised just how many parts of the state you can openly say nigger or have confederate tattoos in public.

>>83161700
For the moment Marvel is pretending it's a legitimate development. Just like they pretend that major characters can die for real.

Eventually it will turn out he's a double agent, or mind controlled, or his counterpart from another timeline switched places with him, or something.

>>83162456
>talking about subtlety in propoganda
>obvious trump supporter

oy vey goyim

>>83161904
>Dead
>In comics.
HA

>>83163408
propaganda*

>>83160844
>When you tryen to call the right wings nazis for the 3000th time, but you make a good point and they just don't give a fuck about what you're saying any more

>/pol/ is celebrating Cap's 'red pilling'
>everyone else is horrified

MARVEL IS LITERALLY HELPING TRUMP SUPPORTERS

THIS IS INSANE

>>83162463
NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL
OPEN THE BORDERS
DESTROY THE NATIONS
100 DAYS FOR DISSOLUTION
REEEEEEEEE

>>83161313
>>83161547
>>83161595
>Implying Zemo and Steve won't have awesome buttsex
He deserves it. He did so much for Steve! betrayed him! Manipulated him! Antagonizied him! He has the right to put his cock in Rogers' mouth! - Dennis Hopeless

>>83163592
It was nerd rage for hours until they turned around and said "Fuck it. So he gets to take hitlers place in his 75th anniversary cover and now they make him a literal nazi while his multicultural hard left counterpart gets to be the good guy still. They want to push this agenda and tell us borders are bad? That being white is a crime along with all these other media outlets pushing it all? Fine, so be it. #HailHydra

>>83161793
What if it's not mind control.
What if it's...TIME TRAVEL?!
Hydra sent their agent back in time to seduce Steve's mother and turn her and young boy into Nazi symphatizers and just now the time ripples caught up with them.

>Tootles!
What did he mean by this?

>>83163592
You say that as if this isn't to be expected. Marvel's CEO is a Trump supporter, anon. Even donated millions to his campaign.

People seem to be under the weird impression that Marvel is on the SJW's side. The truth is that the only reason they do "SJW" comics is to get their money, so they can then hand that money over to Trump.

>>83163695
>Marvel inadvertently start the fourth Reich
Sounds like the plot of a Curb episode

>>83163734
That would just make a splinter timeline and not affect the present.

>>83163695
Please say out loud "I'm not edgy", as a joke.

>>83162065
The most ingenious part of their plan is when they instruct Steve Rogers to always think thoughts that would indicate he is not a Hydra member, so that the illusion would be complete even to somebody who could see his thoughts and memories, like a telepath or reader.

Hydra fucking thought of everything. This is the best writing.

Ail Hydra.

>>83163775
THE RULES HAVE CHANGED SECRET WARS NOT 616 ANYMORE BOOYAH BEGINS

>>83163846
>so he gets to take hitlers place in his 75th anniversary cover and now they make him a literal nazi while his multicultural hard left counterpart gets to be the good guy still. They want to push this agenda and tell us borders are bad? That being white is a crime along with all these other media outlets pushing it all?
not him but please tell me what about the above is wrong or edgy in any way?

>>83162456
I don't see what this has to do with trump

>>83163775
Nah, the time line is broken remember? O5 are still trying to fix it.

If this is what they end up going with, I'd actually give it to them. It makes some sense within their current continuity

>>83163775
Marvel's rule used to be "you can't fuck with the timeline via timetravel, it just creates a new timeline," but I'm pretty sure that's been thrown out the window with, like, X-Men bringing the X-kids to the present, Age of Ultron, that Uncanny Avengers thing with Kang fucking with time and Red Skull doing shit or whatever... there were a lot of time travel stories around that time that ignored the "no timeline fuckery" rule.

>>83163955
middle right panel

if you still can't see it i don't know what to tell you, maybe see a doctor

>>83164040
>vaguely talking about taking their country back and anti-PC stuff
ok
these are supposed to be bad things?
PC is cancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkhUivqzWv0

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>>83159116
>>83161700

what's sad is that clearly the plot arc is gonna be:
>cap works for hydra for a while
>turns out it's an elaborate ruse to get inside hydra and destroy from the inside
>cap was never REALLY working for hydra!
>status quo recurs

The writers' have ruled out "mind control" and similar things.

>>83163970
>Nah, the time line is broken remember?
Galactus himself said that that's bullshit and not how time works. It's only "broken" from the perspective of regular ass humans who can't comprehend how the timeline works. It's all working as intended though. The past changes just as much as the future. Beast couldn't return the O5 to their "past" because their past doesn't exist anymore.

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>mfw Nick Spencer is actually pro-trump and bamboozling the heck out of everyone

>>83163775
Not if Red Skull used a Doom Time Platform. Doom Time Platforms alter the main timeline rather than causing a splinter timeline.

>>83163592
Didn't Marvel's CEO donate money to Trump's campaign?

Or did SJWs make that up so they could cry about it?

I want to red pill someone.

>>83164365
I think he just hates everyone at this point.

People on here like Spencer now? Wasn't he involved with some shady shit before he started working for Marvel?

>>83164430
No, that was Edmondson. And even that was never proven, it was just Kot losing his shit cause he was butthurt and trying to edit Wikipedia

>>83163955
Well I think the anon is reading to much into it and just read Nicks twitter who says that republicans are evil and you shouldn't vote for trump and he's trying to connect it to cap to talk /pol/ on /co/

>>83162463
I thought that was Space Ghost for a second

>>83164409
incoherent and omnidirectional rage is the final redpill

>>83164314
That's stupid though why would Hydra be dumb enough to trust captain america after all these years nothing can justify it? The only way this story could work is as an else worlds where Steve first comes out of the ice.

>>83160844
>#GiveCaptain AmericaABoyfriend is also trending
>People want a gay nazi Cap

>>83164430
We've liked Spencer since Superior Foes of Spider-man came out and ended up being one of /co/'s all-time favorite comics to the point that the book's artist would come into every storytime we had to answer questions, and Spencer used a meme of ours (Don't Mock the Shocker!) in the climax of the last issue.

Also you're probably thinking of Edmonson who started working at Marvel around the same time as Spencer, but all that bullshit controversy around him was instigated by Ales Kot and his infinite butthurt.

>>83164377
I believe both.

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>>83164499
>be trump-supporter
>just want to see a better country
>"y-y-you're obviously a redpiller!!!111!!!!"

Go donate to Bernard Sanders' retirement fund

>People who don't read comics getting "outraged" over comics

Fuck off.

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Poor Zemo. At least he hasn't fallen into a vat a glue dressed up as a bird recently.

>>83164633
Are you just talking about /co/

>>83159116
>not doing 100% synergy with this character excuses us and shuts everybody else up for the other times we actually did

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>83164535
>gay nazis

Hetalia fans are the worse.

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>>83164633
>people complain about comics
>comic gets made to appease them
>still don't buy issues
>series gets cancelled to poor sales
>"fucking sexists/racist/homphobe/ [insert big two]

It's a vicious cycle

Can't let white male nationalists be portrayed as good.

The jews know what they're doing

>>83159116
Please just stop. AXIS wasn't good. Superior Spider/Iron/Whatever man wasn't good. No one cares about your 6 to 12 month comic arc. Seriously, keep it to a 20-60 page What If issue.

>>83164626
Y'know, Bernie supporters just want to see a better country, too. Wanting to see a better country doesn't make you any less of a faggot, and that goes for both Bernie and Trump supporters.

All the people running this time around were awful, just for different reasons. None are as awful as Hillary or Cruz, but all still awful. Kasich was ok, but he never stood a chance.

>>83159116
I wish this was the final bullet that killed moviefags forever.

>>83164626
a "better country" isn't tossing people that have a right to be there out because their skin is brown

>>83164806
What exactly is Hillary Clinton anyway?

>>83164529

Hydra is rock stupid.

Remember, they were led for many decades by a guy whose entire origin story was that he accidentally glued a peice of cloth to his face.

>>83159116
How does Marvel get away with intentionally pissing the fans off while DC have them swearing off their books by simply being?

>>83159116
>all that butthurt from moviefags
BASED SPENCER

MAKE MARVEL GREAT AGAIN
>implying it was ever great

>>83164837
good that that's not what trump wants to do

>>83164871
The people complaining about this don't read comics, for the most part.

I don't get the outrage. It's obvious some shenanigans are going on. So why does it matter?

>>83164861
Nah, he joined up later. They were lead buy a guy that made things die by touching it.

>>83164850
An old woman who's been next to the presidency so long that not being elected will probably kill her

>>83164914
moviefags don't know how comics work

>>83164861

Zemo was only Hydra until Hopeless made him one, retard

>>83164850
A warmonger masquerading as a liberal since she knows the combination of her husband and her being a woman will be enough to trick idiot democrats into voting for her.

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>>83164850
a lying, pandering, sex-baiting rapist protector

oh and saudi money

>>83164837
I don't know how brain damaged you are, but I'll assume youre clincally retarded.

Trump wants to deport ILLEGAL people, Canadian, Mexican't, Chink, Gook, anyone who isn't legally here.

and if you could read, college isn't free, the mudslime ban is temporary, atleast until the terrorist situation blows over.

>>83162067
Just starting to read and it's already awful
>guy is the stereotypical jackass that beats his wife
>woman kicks his ass
this written by some feminist SJW?

>>83164941
>>83164965
So she would be a person that makes the United States a powerful industial-military force, Trump is a person that wants to make a strong economic nation of supermen with those who are not fit to be deported, and Bernie Sanders wants to make a financially secure nation?
Why don't they just work together for a common goal?

>>83165076
Yes

>>83160790
>they don't even realize that getting outraged is exactly what Marvel wanted
It's really the lowest fucking type of clickbait. Maybe it COULD be interesting if Marvel were being serious with it, but everyone that reads comics knows it's just a fucking stunt to drum up controversy.

>>83165076

IT'S A FUCKING FAKE MEMORY IMPLANTED BY THE RED SKULL

Fuck off moviefag

>>83164561
Is Kot still trying to push that made-up bullshit about him being a sexual harasser? I don't like conservative politics either but you can't just make that shit up about people.

>>83165132
I don't know, I've just started reading
is this true or your headcanon?

>>83165096
Because the way Congress works, a president will only really get one big bill passed and get stone-walled on everything else. For example, Obama wasted his on universal healthcare.

>>83164409
especially DC

>>83164965

the people on 4chan getting mad about hillary being a hawk never stops amazing me

>>83165145
Credit card fraud actually

>>83165132
Alternatively, it's time-travel using a Doom Time Platform, but fake memory implant seems the more likely of the two.

>>83165009
I hate the Saudis so damn much. They can't run out of oil and implode soon enough

The fact one of the princes is begging people to "do the right thing" and not vote for Trump makes me want to vote for Trump

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>>83159116

I don't get it.

Who did what just in time for the movie? Which movie?

I'm seeing this has something to do with Cap joining Hydra?

Please someone spoon feed me.

>>83164871
movies

>>83165188
I know he committed credit card fraud when he was younger. Whatever. I shoplifted. I mean the sexual abuse allegations.

>>83165156

who's the one reading comics? You? Of course not, fucking moviefag

>Red Skull has had Xavier powers since 4 years ago
>Stand-off last number, published one month ago stablished that Red Skull had some minutes alone with Steve's mind and planted the seeds for his next plan
>shady woman in red starts to appear in Steve flashbacks around the same time

are you an idiot that needs everything to be spoonfeed to him?

>>83165238
No, as in that's what Kot was trying to push. Turns out it was some other guy with the same name that did it

>>83165245
>>Red Skull has had Xavier powers since 4 years ago
didn't battleworld hit the reset button on pretty much everything?

>>83164976
Oh this is really fucking rich from man who cries btich tears over the DCEU. I don't care about the Captain America drama but Slott and Waid are acting like hypocrites over this.

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>>83165245
dude why the fuck are you so angry
even if this is an implanted memory, how does this change that this is SJW crap?

>>83164806
No, they really don't.

They want to impose substantially different values this country has generally held on everyone, stifle the voicing of any opposing opinions, pretend that the constitution has no power on anything, get free shit, and get violent towards people that disagree with them. That doesn't mean they want a better country. They want a DIFFERENT country and they go about voicing their opinions like petulant children.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj1A43v_hMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRoIQEsjDds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgQurQZzxYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLkzrQely5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=LLFIYC89xtLPAcFxP6ooRxMA&v=SfzITpgEarA&app=desktop

>>83165280

no, Secret Wars just happened as a big flash and everything returned to normal.

The reboot shit was a ruse, the only real change was Miles and company getting into 616. Oh, yeah, and the FF fucking off to space and Old Man Logan in 616 too

>>83164837
>a "better country" isn't tossing people that have a right to be there out because their skin is brown
>that have a right
you're right, that isn't a better country. good thing that's not what trump wants to do.

>>83165320
It's time to shit.

>>83164591
>>83164377
He donated to a charity thing Trump was doing for veterans and got a lot of faggots mad as hell. I remember that one white Muslim convert bitch said she didn't feel safe or some shit at marvel.

>>83165313

because you /pol/fags think you have the right to say what's clearly a shitty wrong opinion when you don't even fucking read comics.

You're the same as the SJW, you complain about shit you don't even read and want a medium to pander to you even though you don't support it. I fucking hate your kind.

>>83165280
Battleworld hit the reset button on almost nothing. At the end of Secret Wars, everything returned to almost exactly how it was pre-Secret Wars. Almost every "change" you see post-Secret Wars isn't the result of SW itself but of off-panel developments that happened during the 8-month timeskip AFTER Secret Wars.

The only thing Secret Wars really changed was adding Miles Morales and his supporting cast to the main universe, along with a handful of multiversal refugees like The Maker and Old Man Logan.

>>83165360
Bernie supporters burning the American flag and chanting "Mexico!" was enough to sour me on that whole camp

>>83164561
>>83165145
>>83165238
If Kot wanted to shit on Edmondson all he needed to do was to bring up he was a high-ranked member of an organisation that advocates passing Russia's anti-gay laws in USA.

>>83165009
>We're going to ban all followers of a major world religion, but it's okay because we'll lift the ban once there are no more violent criminals who claim that religion as their justification.

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>>83165442
>No one who has ever read a comic has been a conservative

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>>83165442
>You're the same as the SJW
SJW fag detected

>>83165431
>I remember that one white Muslim convert bitch said she didn't feel safe or some shit at marvel.
No she didn't. She said "I don't like Trump either, but don't let that stop you from buying my books because the only people you'd be hurting are me and my co-workers, not Trump or Perlmutter."

I know its hard to believe, but not everyone is a blatant strawmen that only exists for you to knock down.

>>83160790

I was going to buy it alongside Rebirth today but this kind of just made me say fuck it. No matter how it was done it's kind of just a shitty plot overall.

The moviefags being pissed about it is pretty great though.

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>>83165442
Lol fuck off.

>>83164812
>muh moviefags boogeyman
>muh synergy ruining comics
The writers would still pull this kind of shitty plot twists more often in hopes of getting sales, even if the movies weren't popular. Fucking Marvel has been doing this shit since the 90s.

>>83165615
Oh, I know. I'm not saying it'll improve Big 2 quality, I just want them to shut up and leave.

>>83162989
I have bad news, anon...

You're clinically retarded. And there is no cure.

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>>83164726
Anon, those comics still have to be GOOD.You can't just shit out comics that pander to people and expect them to buy it when it's borderline unreadable. I'd argue that's even worse. Marvel in general is terrible right now, but the comics that appeases people that are good do sell, like Ms. Marvel for example.

>>83164626
>just want to see a better country

No you don't, you're voting for him out of pure spite. He's an idiot and everyone knows this, you're just so deluded you've fallen for fucking reverse psychology tactics. You're nothing more than a next-gen hipster, voting for the unpopular choice because you revel in being an "edgy" faggot

>>83165572
>>83165608

like clockwork. You clearly don't care about this medium. You're the same as those SJW faggots crying "but muh triggered feelings" in answer to a variant cover. Just this time you're complaining about a comic you don't even read or care about.

>>83165572
>>83165608
Like clockwork.

>>83165660
HYDRA has been around since before Nazis existed. Just because it was co-opted AFTER the war by a FORMER Nazi doesn't make it a Nazi organization. There are plenty of non-Nazis that joined HYDRA over the years.

You wouldn't know this being a moviefag of course.

>>83165584
Really? I could have sworn she said that.

>>83165705
>>83165711
>Likeclockworkmind

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>>83165442

>>83165711
they are so easy to spot

>>83165736
Did you actually read her response to the situation or did you just see someone on /co/ meme about it and assume "well, that MUST be the truth because why would anyone on 4chan ever lie."

>>83165782

>h-he got me, I don't care about comics and I just want to complain
>instead of understanding the irony of becoming the SJW shit I hate, I'll post the funny meme image, I'm sure that will destroy his argument

>>83165825
Dude, this was months ago and I was barely awake at the time.

>>83162286
you know the worst part about this comic is the way they portray hydra members like neonazis
it's the old typical "oh these guys who join are just poor kids that wanna be someone so they beat up foreigners"

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>>83165572
/k/ here.

Y'know, the other right wing board that has regular lefty bashing threads?

Fuck off, we hate you too. Everyone does.
>pic related

>>83165442
>sperging out this hard

>>83165500
8 U.S. Code § 1182(f)

get educated kiddo

>>83160790
It's actually not a terrible issue, all things considered. Plant-man and some of the other Masters of Evil recruits Zemo tried to get were funny, and the action was largely decently drawn. And this "twist"? Does anyone her actually think this is real and/or is going to last? Why is there anything to even complain about?

>>83165916
>/k/
>literally don't know what /k/ is
>look it up
>weapons
kek
whatever kid

>>83165733
More like they internalized it. Their schtick, for decades, was carrying on the fascist world-domination project.

>>83165845
Whipping up nerds who care about capeshit to the point where they have online autistic fits about edgelords is more entertaining than reading this garbage

>>83165916
The difference is that /k/ is right wing. /pol/ is "alt-right."

BASED SPENCER

>>83166015

>I-I didn't care about this to begin with
>Y-yeah, I just spewed my ignorant opinion because I wanted to trigger people LIKE YOU! Hahahaha, epic win!

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>>83159116


now we wait for the most fucked up crossover ever!

>>83166142
There's literally nothing wrong with that.

>>83166142
Is this gonna be a new meme

>>83166142
I actually eat pizza with a fork if its fresh from the microwave or I'm using my laptop so I don't get my hands oily. Using a knife though

>>83165442
>men and their tempers, devilish things
>literal quote from the comic
this is blatant man-hating feminist propaganda

>>83165948
>Does anyone her actually think this is real and/or is going to last?
The ones that don't read comics do, which is the vast majority of people making these threads or bitching on twitter.

>>83166242
>waste your money on it
Anon, we're on /co/. You're literally two clicks away from reading it for free at this very moment. Have you never heard of a storytime?

Wait, of course you haven't, this is your first day on /co/.

>>83166242
What is actually "going against your views"?

>Just in time for the movie
What? How is nearly three weeks after the release of Civil War "just in time"?

>>83166276
I want /pol/ and twitter to leave.

>>83166313
>Wait, of course you haven't, this is your first day on /co/
im not you dipshit, i actually read and even storytime comics in here

>>83166330
it was an example anon

>>83166257
>they even mention jezebel

>>83165916
/k/ is for teenagers and militia LARPers

>>83166374
>i actually read and even storytime comics in here
And yet you are somehow under the impression that its impossible to read this issue without spending money. You're either a liar or the biggest retard on 4chan.

>>83166374
>it was an example anon
An example of what? You said
>i can complain all i want on stupid shit on the internet if it goes against my views
What views are being violated?

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>Red Skull acquired Charles Xavier's powers almost two years ago
>recently was part of the Pleasant Hill event, had confrontation with Captain America (While disguised so Cap didn't know it was Red Skull) and then re-organized Hydra from the shadows.
>It's likely Red Skull is putting false memories into Cap's head.

Casuals went full retard this time, if they actually read the books they could figure this out.

>>83166387
In a negative light, comparing people that post on Jezebel to rabid "kill all men" radfems being mindcontrolled by a literal super-villain into thinking that.

>>83166276

Even though I know it's not going to last something about it really, really pisses me off.

It's just such a cheap ploy and a really tired plot. A hero pretends to be a villain. Haven't seen this shitty plot a hundred fucking times.

While I know originality is hard for Marvel. I just wish they wouldn't try to hype up the shits they take as if they're anything more than generic garbage.

And if Spencer some how actually just goes forward with this with no real explanation because it'd be the unexpected original thing to do and there is no reasoning and Cap was really a Hydra agent all this time than fuck that even more because it's pretty stupid and betrays the character.

>>83163110

See that's the issue. We all know it's going to be something like that in the end. Rather than write a good and interesting story they go with "CAP IS EVIL!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!" which by its nature cannot be interesting because we know how it ends. It's lazy.

>>83166230
>>83166142
>>83166180
Filthy savages

Sometimes I wish /pol/ actually read comics before complaining about them. It would make for a more interesting argument if the things they were complaining about weren't things that were part of comics for decades.
Instead, it just comes off as entryism.

>>83164837

>The right to be there

Illegals are criminals. They broke the law the minute they crossed the border illegally.

>>83166242

I never said you had to waste money into it, fucking cuck. Just read it. But of course I'm talking to a /pol/tard who is having his 1st day on /co/

How silly of me to think otherwise when he needed to be spoonfeed to understand what was going on

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>>83166532
in here? none
i was saying how i can talk shit about random shit on the internet if i dont like it and i dont need to read or know the thing im talking about, just hate the thing that i dont like

>>83166480
yeah sure m8, you win

>>83166657
but at the same time there is something playful about the way they mention it, like it's not that serious

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I don't even know why people are so outraged when there's an actual good book by Spencer coming out right now that they can read instead of this soap operaish drivel.

>>83159116
apparently posting this on /v/ gets you hit with a ban for not properly using spoilers

>>83166779
You should get hit with a ban for posting off-topic anyways you filthy retard

>>83166754

>numales have plagued the west so hard even /pol/tards are cucks that think they can have ignorant opinions and don't be challenged because of it

Ignorants like you are the reason we have shitty presidents

>>83161793

Spencer confirmed it's not mind control and while he's probably lying, which is just as shitty as anything else with this shit, no mind control rules out the Xavier/Red Skull shit.

Implanting memories=mind control.

>>83166754

>I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE IGNORANT, DON'T CHALLENGE MY VIEWS

t. 2016 Amerilard

>>83166734
you are crying about how people are complaining about this when they havent read it
not eveyrone complaining about it come here

>>83166779
>/v/'s mods are better at banning people for spoiling comic shit than /co/'s
What a fucking time to be alive.

>>83166816
If only that applied here too.

>>83166836

no, it isn't. Implanting memories isn't mind control at all because nobody is controlling you, you're taking your own choices. That's the reason implanting memories is one of the shitties things you can do, even worse than outright brainwashing.

>>83166754
>i was saying how i can talk shit about random shit on the internet if i dont like it and i dont need to read or know the thing im talking about, just hate the thing that i dont like
That's no way to go through life, just hating things you don't even understand.

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Let me get in on this

>>83166834
>>83166877
nice samefag

>>83166934
How did you fuck that up? How can you be so bad at something?

>>83166934
>Missing "Stands for"
Dammit! Let me get out!

>>83166901

why are you complaining if you haven't read it? Shouldn't you possess knowledge about the matter before you come here spewing your ignorant views like they are true? Kindly fuck off, /pol/. We don't want your kind or SJW shit in our medium.

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>internet
>"GIVE CAPTAIN AMERICA A BOYFRIEND!"
>Marvel
>"Okay. His boyfriend is Hitler"

>>83166925

As someone with a MC/Brainwashing fetish it totally fucking is mind control. You alter the brain. That's all part of mind control.

>>83159116
read the whole thing now
fucking lame as hell

>>83166960
Too hungry! brb

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>>83162456
that's not literally trump villain

THIS is literally trump villain

>>83166978
>We don't want your kind or SJW shit in our medium.
>ITS MY MEDIUM AND ONLY I CAN ENJOY IT!
fuck off you dont even buy actual comics and just pirate them

also where exactly did i say i didnt read this?

>>83166988

no, I mean, I know it counts for your fetish but it isn't the same. At least not for comic book writers whose rethoric is that way since years ago.

Or maybe Spencer is lying like Slott and Brubaker did years ago

>>83167019
>make america marvelous again
awesome

>>83167069

at the point you started to defend ignorant people you became one of those SJW//pol/ tier tards.

And who are you to tell me what are my reading habits? I literally bought Rebirth, Ms Marvel and Hulk today, retard, fuck off, you don't know me better than me

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thanks for all the (you)s guys
it was nice baiting you all, never change and keep taking that bait like the champs you are

sorry if i got any of you actually mad, i was just bored and literally pretending to be a retard

>What kind of relationship will Cap have with this new generation of Hydra?

>SPENCER: It’s a big part of our story, what Steve’s beliefs are about what Hydra should be, where it should go, what it should focus on. To me, I always get really fascinated by this kind of thing. Any World War II history buff can talk your ear off about the internal power struggles of the Nazi Party. There were some fun parallels to play with here. There’s also a little bit of The Man in the High Castle here. It’s a difficult challenge to get people invested in Hydra characters because their ideology is so repugnant, but what The Man in the High Castle did so well was get you to pull for the lesser of the evils. You might be seeing some similar things here.

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>>83166987


I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN! mods, this is what happen when you don't take shitposting seriously

>>83167167
>pretending to be a retard
Literally Marvel's entire shtick with this "twist"

>>83167213
I don't get it. Comics aren't gaining new readers at all, yet they keep trying shit that would only work on new readers. WHO THE FUCK IS FALLING FOR THIS?

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>>83159116
What the fuck is going on, please help. I'm a DCfag I don't keep up with Marvel much.

>>83166059
From what I've seen, /pol/ hates the alt-right too

>>83167298
Cap has been revealed to have been a Hydra spy all along, brought up from childhood by his Nazi mother.

>>83165705

You know honestly I don't read Batgirl

But did I complain about the variant cover being removed? Yes, why? Because I am against censorship of art.

the biggest difference between me complaining about it and them, is they want to censor something while I want people to be able to make whatever the fuck they want.

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>>83164409
Can you blame him?

>>83165916
Oh yeah, the furfags. Wow, it feels like forever since they ever mattered. Their behavior did really resemble SJWs now.

Whatever was of the whole "fursecution" thing?

>>83167346
So why is #SayNoToHYDRACap trending on twitter? Is this another "people who don't read comics hating on comic shit for being non-pc"? Why is everyone so mad?

thanks for responding by the way, kind stranger

>>83167443

>For being non-pc

More like for just being a shitty plot and because it gets in the way of MUH STUCKY

There were some dumbasses who thought it was a direct retaliation to the give cap a boyfriend thing.

>>83167443
One, because it's a stupid as fuck twist and anyone can see that.

Two, because another Cap-related hashtag, #GiveCaptainAmericaABoyfriend, has been trending as of late, too, and the reveal that Steve was Hydra all along throws SJWs, who are by and large moviefags, into a paradox: Suddenly their would-be gay icon is a Nazi. I for one wonder what brand of doublethink they will employ for this one.

>>83167540
EXPLOIT THIS

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>>83165822
Eh. Lost the better punchline. Was going to try Apologist but it doesn't have the same ring.
Let this be a lesson, kids, you only have to fuck up once to fuck up forever.

>>83167665
And I responded to the wrong anon, it keeps happening!

It's funny how casual tumblrinas are saying this is the biggest slap in the face to Cap's creators. So ignorant of comic history.

I mean, shit. We all know about the time back in the 70s when Cap had a flaming swastika on his shield, right? Hero getting mind controlled by baddos was old news when Stan Lee was banging Jack Kirby's wife and Steve Ditko wasn't a total recluse.

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>>83165608
>>83165572
Pottery

>>83166413
Yeah yeah yeah. Just like /co/ doesn't actually read comics. We've heard it all before.

>>83167604
>>83167611
I understand that it's a stupid as fuck gimmick, I'm just surprised they care about a comic plot that will most likely be shortlived. Cap isn't going to be a fucking nazi for real in the movies, come on.

Thanks for the update though, friends!

>>83167762
People like being angry and offended.

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>>83165701
>No you don't, you're voting for him out of pure spite. He's an idiot and everyone knows this, you're just so deluded you've fallen for fucking reverse psychology tactics. You're nothing more than a next-gen hipster, voting for the unpopular choice because you revel in being an "edgy" faggot

Its almost like I agree with his values or something! Oh, but according to you its not possible to have an opposing opinion!

I'm sorry I don't want to vote for a lying old cunt and a dying old socialist cunt.

After reading this thread and reading some stuff on a Wiki. This makes sense. I hope this isn't a cash grab though and is actually interesting.

>>83164850
Nixon with a vagina, only none of her supporters care about her views on sensorship or her corruption scandals.

>>83167828
>a lying old cunt and a dying old socialist cunt
Wait. Which is supposed to be Hillary and which is Bernie?

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>>83159116

Why did he not post the original image from his own book?

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>>83167861
>I hope this isn't a cash grab though
>and is actually interesting.

>>83167540
Does anyone else always see Dillon faces in the thumbnail? I have no idea why.

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>it's okay when Marvel does it

>>83166754

>i'm proud to be ignorant

Let me guess, you're an american?

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>>83165988
>literally don't know what /k/ is

>>83167890
>Last textbox
Fuckin' 'ell.

so... captain america was pretending this whole time?

i haven't been reading marvel since they started side-lining the x-men around the marvel now! 2012 time.

>>83164803
>Axis wasn't good
>Superior Ironman wasn't good
>Superior Foes wasn't good
>Superior Spider-Man wasn't good
Granted,;he only had anything to do with Foes, but you should keep your shit taste in your mouth sonny. No one wants to hear aboit how wrong you are.

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>>83167890
Fuck you got me kiddo. 10/10 edit BTW.

>>83167298
Marvel attempting to drum up controversy by making people outraged sad thing is working

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>>83168049
Give it five issues before they go m. night shamalama and pull a twist.

>>83159116
>everyone freaking out over this.
Give it five issues and it'll be "Well, ya see, I was just infatuated with a completely different brand of Hydra that I lead that is meant to subvert the red skull and lead Germany into a utopia of open borders and welfare payments :-)"

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Would you guys prefer if this wasn't a ruse and Captain America actually has been a covert spy?

Marvel reboots their shit every fucking year they might as well have some fun with it.

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>>83168066
Those all fucking sucked though you pleb. How old are you? I'm guessing your new to comics or something kiddo.

>>83168110
No one that reads comics is freaking out over this, we all know it's just a stunt to drum up some controversy. It's the twitter/facebook/tumblr fags who like to be outraged and don't read comics that're freaking out.....which is exactly what Marvel wanted to happen.

>>83167883
Sanders is a senile retard who looks like he has Alzheimer's something fierce, but he's at least honest and consistent in comparison to Shillary

>>83167819

I know I sure do.

>>83167762

It's mostly because it's a character they like and being a usually considered the worst thing you can be. Cap being publicly declared a Hydra agent and most likely a Nazi just isn't going to sit well with the casual market, and even the actual market in some cases.

I'll say the actual market is more numb to this stuff really. This particular one kind of pisses me off and pretty much was the reason I didn't add the series to my pull. It's not so much the twist itself as it is Marvel's "We want you angry" and click bait tactics bullshit.

For all DC's issues they wanted the big Rebirth spoiler that pissed people off to be a full on surprise. It was only after the leak that they just let the cat out of the bag.

>>83160844
You honestly never had a chance to use that gif on here? Seriously? You must not come to /co/ often

>>83168169
>marvel
>rebooting

fuck you

>>83168286
>It's mostly because it's a character they like

They don't like Cap, they like Chris Evans.

I agree with you on Marvel's baiting bullshit though.

>>83168209
Close your mouth, your shit taste is smelling up this thread.

>>83168390
just because they don't have Crisis events doesn't mean they don't reboot.

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>all the normies who don't read comics complaining like they care about or read comics

>>83168471
Renumbering comics under a new tagline is not rebooting comics anon.

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>implying Marvel isn't making CA into a "Big Boss" who'll retool HYRDA into his own ideal of America.

>>83168528
Why are you describing /co/?

>>83168540
Like Trump will "retool" America?

Let's be honest. Reactionaries are the worst kind of Nazi.

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>>83168540
Big Steve when?

>>83167665
underrated toast

>>83165360
This anon preaches truth
don't let liberals poison your mind

>No I must fight the hydras
>No cap you are the hydras
>And then cap was a nazi

Congratulations Marvel, you have graduated to Peter Chimaera level writing.

>>83168573

Oh, and SJWs aren't reactionary?

And no, I don't even like Trump. I don't even live in America even if I did to make any difference.

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based as fuark

>>83168868
Social Justice is about moving forward.

Clinging onto idiotic ideals like nationalism or open carry isn't moving forward.

>>83168868

>b-but SJWs!

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>>83168900
>Social Justice is about moving forward.

>>83168893
That's almost not bad. Something doesn't quite fit though.
Maybe his mask needs to be more skull like

>>83168900
"moving forward" isn't the same as moving in the right direct...fyi

>>83168868

"SJWS" at least want to accomplish something. You're just a petty moron who's bawling its heart off when people get the same righta as you.

>>83168900

Social Justice? Maybe, maybe not. Depending on their stances

And that's the problem with SJWs. They wouldn't be called that if anything they did moved things forward instead of making things worse or changing jack shit.

>>83168945
>>83168965
Go back to /pol/.

I can't wait for your tears when Hillary is elected this November.

>>83162065
>ail Hydra
My fucking sides!

>>83169019
>REEEEEEE /POL/ GET OUT
Hey, continue on thinking social justice means moving forward. It might be on paper, but we sure as shit know that's not how it's worked out in the real world

>>83169063
Yes.

Sweden, Norway, and Denmark have TERRIBLE standards of living, right?

>>83168984

How is throwing tantrums and spitting at people who even so much as criticism crazy nutters who do more to harm the movement than help it "accomplishing something"?

>>83168984
"want to accomplish something" yeah, they want to accomplish fascism.

if you live in the US or a western civilization, equal rights exist. the rest is just bullshit and "muh fairness"

>>83168900
Social Justice is literally The Right without the religious bent.

>>83169087
>Sweden
Oh you cheeky fucker you're just trying to ruse me. Fucking got me didn't you

>>83169087
They will when they collapse from mass immigration.

>>83169019

Or Bernie.

Hey, never say never.

>>83168900
>Social Justice is about moving forward.
...the edge of a cliff

>>83169089
The only one throwing a tantrum is you and half of the /pol/ crossboarders in this thread.

Steve Rodgers being a Nazi makes sense, especially for someone who dresses in his country's flag all the time. You can't think your nation is right all the time when it bombs innocent minorities in Hiroshima or Kabul.

>>83169107
Fascism is by definition nationalistic. Social Justice is not nationalistic and cares about equality, so it cannot be fascist.

Idiot.

>>83169124
Again, how is it anything like "the Right"? We want equality for all and affordable basic rights.

Nothing like the right.

>>83169148
Spotted the /pol/ crossboarder.

There is no immigration problem in Sweden.

>>83169124

I know it's a minor distinction, but they hate is towards Social Justice Warriors, not Social Justice itself.

You're right though. The Left and the Right has proven to the rest of the world that neither is free from crazy nutters. Social Justice Warriors have also proven that you do not need religion to be a crazy zealot. (Which is ironic, considering that they're secular zealots going out of their way to defend OTHER religious zealots, who openly admit that they'd kill said secular zealots if they had things their way.)

>>83169207
>dropping bombs on Hiroshima was bad
Read a history book mate. Dropping the nukes was basically the best case scenario that could have happened to Japan

>>83168900
>Social Justice is about moving forward.
That's why Coloreds Only is coming back, right?
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7243

>>83169207
>There is no immigration problem in Sweden.
Yeah but they're slashing their budget and borrowing money to accommodate suddenly having a couple hundred thousand more people in their country.

Sweden's pretty small

>>83169207
>implying SJWs don't want a nationalistic tumblr form of gov't

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>>83169263
You're disgusting!

War crimes are never justified! Ever!

>>83169263
I guess it would have been better if we just kept setting Tokyo on fire?

Should remember that for next time

>>83169207
what is a basic right? If it includes anything that another person must produce or put in effort for, it isn't a right.

>>83169332
Wrong. Humans have a right to life and thus a right to eat, drink, be clothed, and be sheltered.

Anything else is fascism aka corperatism.

>>83169263

This. It's an ugly history, but it's better to accept that it happened and it was either this, or the possibility of wiping out the whole nation of Japan without the use of a nuke.

>>83169332
Basic rights are things like safe spaces, internet, and race quotas

>>83169326
When Japan's options were
>get nuked by the US
>get razed completely by the Russians
I sure as shit know which one I'd have gone with

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>Red Skull makes a reasonable and intelligent point
>Then follows it up with HAIL HYDRA GO SUICIDE BOMB to discredit everything he said and make conservatives look bad
In the end, it just makes his points look undebatable that you have to throw in some retarded "but he's a nazi terrorist" sthick in afterward. In the end it's
NOT
AN
ARGUMENT

>>83169207
>Again, how is it anything like "the Right"? We want equality for all and affordable basic rights.

basic rights such as being able to go into the girl's bathroom with no legal repercussions!

>>83164365
False flag. Nazis have NOTHING to do with Trump.

>>83169390
Basic rights like not being judged for what you were born as.

>>83169368
Can you imagine what Soviet Japan would have ended up like?

>>83167411
Most furries settled into Tumblr and sites like that doing their circlejerky thing, grew a thicker skin when it came to hazing/fursecution, and just fap to their futanari foxgirls.

>>83169359
Oh god you're fucking retarded.

Not the right to water, clothes or shelter. Maybe the right to ACCESS to water, clothes and shelter.

those aren't rights, those are privileges. learn the difference you retarded SJW faggot

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>>83163909
A WORLD WITHOUT BORDERS, JACK