Captain America: Civil War overtakes Zootopia, now highest-grossing

>>82920012
Marvel does it again. Infinity is gonna break it again

>>82920012

>Civil War outgrossing Zootopia

Does it deserve it, /co/?

>>82920191

It was bound to happen.

If Zootopia had proper marketing ot would reach billion month ago, now it has 30/70 chance it will.

MCU movies sell like hotcakes because everyone knows when they're coming and what are they about, prequels were good too.

I'm not upset about zootopia losing to it, its still best animated movie of the year, and it deserves this title.

>>82920012
Wow, Disney overtaking Disney.

How will Disney even recover?

>>82920012
Realistically, when will CW surpass the 1 bilion mark? One week or less?

>>82920567
This weekend.

Tomorrow

The only one who can beat Disney is Disney

>>82920567
Probably by Friday

>>82920012
Good that will show them furrys who's top dog.

>>82920402
By working for Disney, obviously.

>>82920191
Both are great movies, I'd say both deserved it

>>82920567

Monday at the latest and that's being pessimistic.

>>82920012
Of course it is, this is fucking Avengers, we're talking about.

>>82920567
This weekend.

did anyone seriously think that this will bomb/would not surpass 1 gorillion mark?
but /tv/ said so answers doesnt count

>>82920012
Good. Zootpia cucks put in their place.

>>82921284
2 months before I genuinely thought that BvS was gonna go 1.3B and Civil War max out at 900m or something.

I just expect the brand recognition to be stronger than the quality of the movie. I also expected BvS to be a lot better and CW a lot worse. Russos's lightning hit the bottle twice, it seems.

>>82921284
All non-troll and sane people thought both BvS and Civil War would make more than a billion and that X-Men would make 700 million at most.

>>82920012
>somewhere, zootopia fans are crying that their movie isn't the greatest money making movie of 2016

>>82921337
>I just expect the brand recognition to be stronger than the quality of the movie
That only works for Michael Bay

>>82921442
And James Cameron.

Although no, neither Titanic nor Avatar were marketed around him. And neither was that great. Not billion dollar great anyway. It's just magic.

>>82920191

While I think the MCU movies are excellent movies I can totally see how people feel it's undeserved.

The MCU is popular for the same reason as One Piece. Sure it's a big universe and every piece of story adds to it, but if it had a normal length it would only be enjoyed by a bunch of people. The reason why it's such a big phenomenon is that it's so long running now and literally defines generations and EVERYONE will eventually be caught in the hype.

When Infinity War hits the hype is gonna explode, this will literally be something that will mark movie history.

>>82921382
Zootopia gets a different claim to fame. Only the third movie in the past dozen years to stay in the top 10 for twelve consecutive weeks.

>>82921359
>All non-troll and sane people thought both BvS and Civil War would make more than a billion
Well they were wrong about BvS.

>>82921382
Its actually sad that there are people who feel shit that their DISNEY movie got surpassed by a DISNEY movie.

>>82921501
It helps that they are all pretty great to excellent movies...

>>82921609
Sadder that people get upset over something that doesn't affect them at all one way or another.

They're not earning or losing money whatsoever.

>>82921609
Is it also sad that people feel hyped and cheering that a DISNEY movie passed a DISNEY movie?

Or is it reassuring that many more people hear the news and react, "Oh, okay"?

>>82920567
MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND BECAUSE 'MERICA

>>82920677
>>82921336

Epic

>>82920191
Not surprising, just kind of wanted Zootopia to hit 1B for fun.

>>82920402
Disney will blame Disney for buying Critics.

>>82921586
1B seemed a safe guess for Batman and Superman on name recognition alone if it was just ok, which means they really failed hard to not make it there even. I guess 1.2 or so would have been reasonable if it was a good movie. 1.5+ I guess would be if it was great. Not sure how hard it is to get even higher than that.

>>82920012
Movie has legs like Nicole Kidman

I wasn't sure at first, but I think this will surpass Age of Ultron

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>>82920012
>CW beat Zootopia
We did it, /co/

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>>82920012
OHH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEE

I haven;t seen this garbage. Is it still on theaters?

>>82922017
Civil War stil hasnt made as much money as Age of Ultron?

>>82922017
It's been out for thirteen days, a bit early to be measuring its legs. A fairly standard 60% second weekend drop.

>>82922154
It's only been out for 2 weeks, of course it's still in theaters.

>Disney beating Disney
I wonder if the US government will break up Disney when it keeps beating out other companies to the point the only successful movies are from Disney

>>82922200
>40
If only.

>>82922207
>Disney cannot be stopped
>The only thing that can defeat Disney is itself

>>82922200
>40
WB/Dc wished it was 40

>>82922156
You say that like AoU was a commercial flop and it'd be an easy thing to surpass it. AoU is the 7th highest grossing movie of all time at 1.4 billion.

>>82920012
This is the best day of my life.

>>82922282
Why do you hate furries so much?

>>82922267
>you say that like
No, I'm just asking. It's been quite sometime since AoU and it seems like everyone was more hyped for Civil War. I figured it would have passed AoU already

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>>82922309
Nah man, you probably don't remember how hyped everyone was for AoU.

The trailers looked great and it was the follow-up to not only The Avengers (which was very well received), but also to GotG and Winter Soldier which were some of the best MCU movies. Everyone was super hyped about it. Hell, it got the biggest international box office for MCU, even more than the first Avengers.

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>>82921909

>BvS will end up making less money domestically than Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy

How the fuck did this happen?

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>>82920012

>>82922017
Yeah, but after it's been worn down by The Darkness, Money Monster, The Angry Birds Movie, Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising, The Nice Guys, Alice in Wonderland 2, X-Men: Apocalypse, Me Before You, Popstar, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, The Conjuring 2, Now You See Me 2, Warcraft, Central Intelligence, Finding Dory, Free State of Jones, Independence Day: Resurgence, The BFG, The Legend of Tarzan, The Purge: Election Year, The Shallows, Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates, The Secret Life of Pets, Ghostbusters, The Infiltrator, Ice Age: Collision Course, Lights Out, Star Trek Beyond, Bad Moms, Jason Bourne, Nerve, The Founder, Nine Lives and Suicide Squad, how much will it have left in the tank?

>>82922369
Bad Movies Do Bad in the Theatres
On other news: Water is wet

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>>82922200

>40

Well, that's being rather kind.

>>82922309
Civil War had a slightly worse opening weekend than AoU, but a better 2nd week. It will probably end up somewhere around the 1.2-1.4 billion mark. If it manages to surpass AoU, it probably won't be by much.

>>82922384
Explain Transformers and TFA (not bad but incredibly overrated)

>>82922438
Bay overrides every rule

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>>82922438
I swear, 4chan is the only place I see that shits on TFA so much.

Every normie I know fucking loved the movie. I'm not saying it's not overrated, but people here seem to be really out of touch with how the general audience responds to some movies.

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>>82922409
Actually, it looks like it had almost the exact same percentage drop.

>>82922375
Damn, even Jungle Book is close to surpassing BvS.

>>82922375
Damn, that drop between 7 and 8.

>>82922369
>WB
>Snyder
>Nepotism
>Gal Gadot
>Eisenberg Luthor
>no Timm/Dini
>being lazy and arrogant enough to think that Batman and Superman's name alone is enough to carry a movie
>trying to jump on cinematic universe train without a plan
>terrible marketing (revealing Doomsday and over inflated marketing budget)
>terrible script
>shoehorned cameos (literal teaser trailers in the movie)
>teaser trailer/Luthor giving heroes their logos
>terrible editing
>Batman gunning down people (I have no problem Batman killing people when the chips are down, but mowing thugs down with a big gun is stupid)
>Superman having a beef with Batman about vigilantism when he just killed a guy in Africa
>Superman who was just established that he would kill people if they threaten the ones he loves, doesn't kill Luthor when he just pushed Lois of the building
I could write more but you get the picture

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>>82922504
>Yfw Jungle Book surpasses BvS

>>82922484
TFA was playing it safe and had a shitty villain and OP heroine. It still was a better movie than BvS and ofc Transformers

>>82922375
Hey, BvS being the 46th highest grossing film is pretty good.

I mean, sure Batman and Superman couldn't beat something like Ice Age 4 but it did better than Catching Fire!

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>>82922438
The Transformer films do one thing very well: Visual action. Crazy over the top set scenes and explosions, giant alien machines blowing up city streets, the action can bring a crowd in. Yes you can squawk how bad it is but your no better then a retard telling a guy that is smoking "You know those are bad for you?" they already know, they made their choice long ago.
No one goes into a Transformers, Avengers or TMNT and expect Shakespeare quality, they expect a roller coaster of fun and not much else.
Force Awakens played on nostalgia in spades, they showed the audience the old generation and are clearly passing the torch to the new one. It was done in such a way that the best you get is your thinking that it's overrated.

BvS failed because it's editing was a huge mess making it a pain follow the story feeling like some 6 year old is telling you his Batman fan fiction. The action was muddled and for the most part boring with little to excite and it didn't give the audience a Superman or even (to a point) a Batman they wanted. Even the fight felt force and it's resolution felt even more so.

It was a bad film through and through

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>>82922593
doesn't make you sad that it still mad so much money?

like 46th of every movie ever made, it still made a fucking profit, the movie should have been such a loss warner bros collapsed

but fat d/c whales went and watched it 20 times each to boost sales

>>82921284
I can't even count the amount of BvS fanboys who were claiming it wouldn't.

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>>82922792
All they needed was one of the Ultimate Tickets. $100 got you a metal card with your name engraved on it that was good for one admission to BvS every day that the movie was in theaters.

>>82922369
it's just a testament to how shitty it was

this gets thrown around a lot, but it was LITERALLY the blunder of the century

>>82922792
it's sales were from advertising. They made a big splash in week one to a puddle dip weak 2.
Those numbers you see were made in week one and that was it.
Jungle Book is on the verge of passing it because it's showings are still warming seats. BvS has been pulled from US theaters by a massive 80% while Jungle Book has only had 20% pulled since release.
Hell Deadpool might have challenged it if Fox wasn't so greedy to ride the coat tails of success into disc sales so soon.

>>82922838
>paying to watch BvS EVERY day
Just kill me

>>82922838
I can just imagine an attendant at the cinema trying not to laugh if they saw this.

>>82922438
>Transformers
It's bad but it's "fun" so stupid people can still enjoy it. BvS was too stupid for smart viewers and too boring for stupid viewers, so it couldn't really capitalize on either market.

>TFA
First of all this movie isn't bad, despite what 4chan contrarians would have you believe. It's a very entertaining movie that's only sin is not taking many risks. Secondly it's the first half-decent Star Wars movie in like 30 years, it was going to be hype even if the reviews were slightly worse.

>>82922838
That wouldn't work for the chart posted.
It's a page showing highest grossing films, meaning sales.
There is no profit made after you buy the card
I had a friend that bought one of those cards. He came out before the premiere of BvS was over with 6 other people and threw a shitfit that he wanted his money back. Took him two weeks with corporate but he got all his money back.

>>82922853
Jungle Book's only been out five weeks and it should drop down to around 5th place this weekend. Civil War still due to ride high overtop of all three new releases, though Angry Birds and/or Neighbors 2 MIGHT approach it.

>>82922838
>A BAT-CREDIT CARD?!

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>>82922838
Why would anyone buy something like this?

Especially if you don't know how the movie will turn out.

>>82922943

Based War Mugga.
That Nigga is tight.

>>82922943
cause it's batman and superman
you gotta show your the ultimate fan and waste money supporting batman and superman

dont you know that the biggest tool spending the most money gets to say they are the truest fan?

>>82922919
Yeah, but if you're going to see it 20 times, it'd be more convenient to use the ticket and then just write Warner Bros. a check for however much more you wanted to voluntarily donate.

>>82922943
so many people drop $100 like its nothing

thats the price of a new game

>>82922838
I wonder how many of those landed on ebay after the first watching.

>>82922792
Not really. It's kind of embarrassing that it only made that much than anything

>but fat d/c whales went and watched it 20 times each to boost sales
See the thing is it has the highest drop for a superhero movie like ever so it doesn't matter much

>>82923012
Only as a collectible. With the buyer's name engraved on the back, they were checking IDs at the box office on those ones.

>>82922919
>>82922838
holy kek why would you ever buy this?

You'd have to see the movie like AT LEAST five times before it became worth it...who the fuck goes to see the same 2.5 hour movie 5 times in theaters?

Even if it'd been good I'd be bored as fuck by the third viewing.

>>82922838
How many damn times can you even see a movie in the cinema to justify buying this?

I think the most times I've seen a movie in the cinema was 3 times with Winter Soldier and Mad Max.

>>82923012
It wouldn't work unless you both shared the exact same name.

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>>82922838
>cannot be refunded

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>>82923072
>not using the HQ version
Step it up.

>>82923059
if a ticket in the area is $8 you have to see it 13 times to break even 26 times to make it worth the investment.
So that's about every other day since launch.

>>82923043
A 2.5 hour movie, of course not. A movie that's only an hour and forty-eight? Sure.

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>>82923034
but they are STILL making sequels and they STILL made a profit off it

if justice league doesn't tank and kill d/c live action off i'm going to freak

>>82923112
But I don't want DC live action to die. They can't die. That would be not great for Marvel too. I just want good DC movies. I want Nolan back, I want something at the level of the DCAU on screen.

>but they are STILL making sequels and they STILL made a profit off it
Yeah but so did Man of Steel and you see what happened there right?

>>82922850
And is Deadpool the success of the century?

>B-list superhero
>no cameos by anyone anybody cares about
>R-rated movie
>60 million budget
>no China

And it still beats fucking Batman and Superman in America and makes only a hundred million less worldwide.

>>82923072
>>82923096
I remember a pic where they quote some guy on twitter and it said it was great
But then the actually the guy tweeted that he did not enjoy BvS, do have that pic?

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>>82923146
>STILL made a profit off it
Not quite. Sure if you count DVD sales and merch it will make a profi, but from pure box office money it didn't.

That's definitely not good for them and it's why they're restructuring stuff at WB right now. Hopefully things will get better after 2017, JL is probably fucked because Snyder is still making it.

>>82923159
to be fair deadpool had such an aggressive marketing campaign

other capeshit could learn from it

>>82923159
>And is Deadpool the success of the century?
Actually yes

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>>82923202
How hard is it to find someone from twitter who actually enjoyed it to get a quote? There are probably lots of retarded kinoposters they could've quoted instead.

>>82923159
Deadpool is the feel-good story of the new year

>>82923204
Ouch

>>82923204
this article is either old or incorrect

>>82922792
I wonder how much they would have made if the movie didn't aired world wide simultaneously.

>>82922943
Fanboyism, War Hammer

Simple as that, the same reason why presales for Civil War also imploded when Spidey appeared at the second trailer of CW.

>>82923234
Wait, movie studios are taking quotes from random people on twitter? Is that a common thing these days?

>>82923234
thanks
they could have just taken specific words or phrases from the whole tweet
"BvS blew my mind on how terrible it was" could have been the whole tweet and they just took the "blew my mind" and ran with it

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>>82923204
>article says B V S would cost would be 750 million
>it made $866 million
>therefore it was a loss

i dont get it

>>82923336
Learn to read man. The total revenue ends up being about 75% of the box office money.

Or do you think theaters show these movies for free? They take a cut from the box office too, it doesn't all go to the studio.

>>82923336
The barely made their money back.

>>82923325
It's either that, or a few good reviews there were.

>>82923390
Theaters get a cut, but their prime income is concessions stand.

>>82923336
because they get less money on international showings than is reported as how much a movie earns by ticket sales

>>82923390
theaters barely make any money off ticket sales, all their money is made from food sales

Box office is pretty interesting. Just looked at the Deadline 2015 analysis and I'm surprised AoU made just 382 million in profit when the movie made 1.4 billion WW.

http://deadline.com/2016/03/universal-pictures-disney-most-profitable-movies-2015-star-wars-minions-jurassic-world-data-1201727739/

These huge movies really need to break 1 billion to make a good profit it seems. Their budgets are insane.

>>82921284
There were threads here with people listing out anecdotes about how they and their friends weren't excited for it so it was going to bomb

>>82922382
Anon, it's really not going to be in theaters past June

>>82923710
The question was about its legs. It must endure many challengers to boast strong legs.

>>82923632
It's what happens when you need CGI farms around the world just to get your action scenes done. I think it was Iron Man 3 when the VFX credits took up the entire screen at one point.

>>82921631
Eh, I'd say its more apt to say they're all pretty ENJOYABLE movies, not necessarily "great to excellent." You're never going to see an MCU movie get an oscar nomination or anything. They're relatively well-made summer blockbusters, but nothing truly outstanding when taken as their own thing rather than part of the larger tapestry.

But even the worst MCU movie is enjoyable. IM3, Thor 2, and AoU weren't particularly good movies and I'd never want to watch any of them again, but I'd be lieing if I claimed I didn't still enjoy watching the movie. Good jokes here and there, some solid action, competently put together enough that there's nothing egregiously wrong on a technical level.

None of them are high art or deserve the sheer amount of discussion they get on here and /tv/, but they always and consistently make for a fun 2 hour distraction. For whatever reason though, certain people (mostly /tv/ shitposters obviously) fucking despise this though. They see being "fun throwaway entertainment" as a bad thing and getting remarkably upset when you imply otherwise.

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>>82922838
Man that's horribly hilarious.

>>82923835
Those people don't get paid much though.

>>82923218
They had an aggressive marketing campaign that leveraged creativity in-place of "throw all the money we have, more than even the movie cost to make, at every piece of ad space we can find."

Deadpool is the result of a superhero movie being made out of passion rather than corporate interests or obligation.

Most superhero movies are meant to be high budget franchise starters. Deadpool was a tiny budget passion project that a group of competent creators spent years begging and campaigning to have made. Fox practically gave the OK just to get them to shut up about it and hope that they could just mark it as a write-off and hope that at least with how little money they invested in it, it'd at least break even. They didn't make it because they wanted to make money, or start a huge franchise, or add a piece to a "cinematic universe," or to keep the rights to a character.

They made it because the writers, lead actor, and director involved fucking love Deadpool and wanted to do right by the character.

It's the exact opposite as BvS. BvS was made for the express purpose of being a massive franchise starting cinematic universe establishing mega-blockbuster, using as many big name superheroes as they could, with an absolutely absurd amount of money thrown at it. And yet they got a guy who genuinely HATES the very concept of superheroes to direct in. What little genuine passion went into that movie was drowned out by a thousand different corporate interests and the end result was a fucking mess that's nothing more than an insult to the characters used.

So yes, in the world of capeshit, BvS really is the Blunder of the Century, while Deadpool is at least in the running for Success of the Century. I'd argue though that Iron Man would be the real SotC, since it was a studios first movie, using a washed up actor playing a low rate b-lister, after everyone started tiring of the genre, and turned it into the basis for a cinematic empire.

>>82922375
OH SHIT THE MONKEY KING SEQUEL CAME OUT?

Fuck yeah! That first one was 10/10.

>>82921631

nah, popcorn movies, crowd plasers, turn off your brain bucky

>>82924708
Oh wait, no, I'm thinking of Journey to the West: Conquering the Demons that was 10/10. That Monkey King movie was actually extremely mediocre in-comparison.

Too many movies based on Journey to the West makes things confusing.

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>>82924709
>turn off your brain bucky
Rude.

It's amazing how many people on this site get offended at the idea that superhero movies should be entertaining first and foremost.

>>82920567
These figures are up to date as of yesterday's take, so the weekend.

>>82920616
>>82920633
Wednesday and Thursday are slower than Monday and Tuesday, and typically a drop. It's probably only going to make a couple of million today, then about ten million Friday. So it'll be just short (assuming the overseas is still rolling in) until Saturday. Unless this weekend is huge it's due to finish on about $1.1bn


>>82921337
>>82921359
BvS wasn't realistically going to break a billion with the same creative team.

Based on what MoS made, and assuming it managed a respectable but predictable increase for a sequel, it should have made about $800m to $900m, but not a billion.

Affleck just isn't that big of a draw and Batman has very, very variable grosses - the average adjusted Batman gross is somewhere about the $600m mark, but only because it has that first Burton movie to count on. Between 1989 and 2008 it just didn't come close to big money. Superman tops out a little lower because of III and IV, but is probably about the same level realistically speaking.

So you have two not-huge but well known properties and one not-huge but well known ex boyfriend of some of Hollywood's most powerful actresses of the last two decades and a TV actor who struggles to headline movies and an unknown actress/model. It wasn't going to do huge business, so getting close to the $900m figure was impressive. Sort of.

In Marvel terms it would be like asking Hemsworth to headline a mini-Avengers with B-listers - probably about how Ragnarok will do. Unless his Thor grosses are based on Portman's fans, in which case, it's fucked.

>>82924641

>an aggressive marketing campaign that leveraged creativity in-place of "throw all the money we have, more than even the movie cost to make, at every piece of ad space we can find."

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/deadpool-tops-in-tv-ad-spending-1201702483/

>In this week’s edition of the Variety Movie Commercial Tracker, powered by iSpot.tv, Marvel claims the top spot in TV ad spending with “Deadpool.”

>National ads placed for the superhero film had an estimated media value of $7.2 million through Sunday, for 1,557 airings across 48 networks.

That's just one week and only 48 domestic networks. It may represent the peak of the ad cycle for this movie - but it's equivalent to 12.4% of their production budget, suggesting that the overall ad spend for this movie was in fact, as is usual, more than even the movie cost to make. It doesn't include newspaper or magazine ads, it doesn't include web presence (even viral videos need an editor), it doesn't include driving Mr. Reynolds around or putting him in his gimp suit to act the tool in public (which, as part of the film's promo, is subject to SAG-AFTRA rules - if he flies he flies business class or better, if he stays overnight the hotel is pretty much the best available within a reasonable distance, he eats for free, his needs are met, and presumably his actual contract includes better terms than just basic scale payments and hours for promotional work). Just those little bits of having him running around in the suit? Probably a 20-person operation. May not even have been him all the time to keep costs down. May have been him and a double to perform some kind of skit. Who knows.

The real problem BvS had was hiring Affleck after he'd turned down directing it just a year beforehand.