Don't steal comics, kids.

>>82869587
>tfw

Don't steal memes, adults

>>82869587
I wouldn't steal his comics if you paid me to.

who's gonna stop me?

I refuse to believe someone named their child Sterling Gates.

How is a website like ViewComcis still around? I would expect Disney or WB to go after that shit instantly

>>82869587
>Sterling
>Stealing

hmmm pottery ?

Gates has namefagged here, he knows the deal.

>>82869587
But stealing comics is usually my first step to buying them.

>>82869639
t-the internet police! they will hack your facebook and hack your email and and hack your tv. then you are going to jail for ten years!

I feel so bad for Gates but... this was obviously going to happen.

>>82869587
I'm not stealing them. I'm pirating them.

>>82869587
I only buy good comics.

>>82869754
Fuck you, I am reading Gwenpool, Vision and Omega men on viewcomics and you cant stop me

>>82869587
I'm surprised that it would be popular
But I'm not a supergirl fan and never saw the appeal

>>82869858
It's only popular because it's a digital release that comes out on monday (or tuesday), when nothing else comes out.

>>82869711
I am surprised they have lasted as long as they have.

whenever sites like these pop up they fade in time.

>>82869711
Most likely hosted in a country with loose piracy laws.

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>>82869639
Me. Thanks for the ATV Asshole.

I wouldn't go through the minimal effort of even stealing it, because why would I waste my time reading that drivel

Can't you guys sympathize?

It's a dying industry and the only thing killing it is dishonesty.

Come on gates embrased Lieber example.

>>82869922
But anon isn't a company
He's a non-profit organization

>>82869972
Let it die

>>82869972
I am a firm believer in only throwing money at things that arent easily accessible for free

>>82869972
>dying industry
>comics

Okay buddy.

>>82869587

>$3.99
>20 pages plus ads

Yeah, I'ma steal that shit.

>>82869972
Up until last winter it had been growing since 2012. It could grow again.

>>82869972
>implying comicbooks and their valuable ip's are ever going to die

>>82869742
He still lurks, the other day he complained that someone was storytiming Supergirl hours after it came out.

>>82869972
>the only thing killing it is dishonesty.
>only thing
Is that your way of killing it faster? By being dishonest to hammer one more nail into that coffin

>>82870134
We aren't getting new ones, is what I'm saying.

Just rehashes. You cannot look to the comic industry as a place of work. There is no point to giving it your all.

That's the problem.

>>82869745
>read peepo choo story time
>scans for vol 2 and 3 don't exist

Going to buy them on the week end

>>82869972
>>82870025
>>82870067
>>82870067
>>82870123
>>82870134
>>82870222
Maybe if we kill the industry Stan Lee died and Miller and Moore will be able to gain more power ?

I will be happy with that

>>82869972
But I want to kill it

>>82870222
Fine, Diamond is also killing it.

Y'happy?

>>82869587
Stop writing SJW paid for fanfictions and I might consider it.

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>>82869853
thanks to people like you we are loosing great comics like the unbeatable squirrel girl, I hope you feel proud of yourself young man.

>>82870265
>We aren't getting new ones, is what I'm saying.

t. Big 2 reader

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>No one story timing adventures of super girl
For shame /co/

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>>82870446
>Based on the "hit" "CBS" series

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>>82870489
Tell that to Zod's snapped neck, Kara.

>>82870489
Are posting all 9 issues

>>82870346
Hipster writers who pander and the PC cry babies really do hurt comics in the big two.

>>82869972
The thing killing it is a poor business model.

>>82869972
Honestly the industry is fucking built to fail.

Something so expensive for so little entertainment, and after a few months those individual floppies get put into a bigger book that is more worth your money.
But you can't have the industry be built on trades/OGNs since floppies are needed to get everybody by month to month and readers can be apprehensive to buy a 20+ dollar trade/OGN by a creative team they don't know, even if they are characterfags.

I mean it won't go away completely since they're IP farms, but consistent healthy growth just seems so difficult.
Trades are growing just fine, but relaunches and variants are muddling the floppy growth department.

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>>82870525
Fuck no, just the first one.

>>82870489
>"based" on "the" "hit" "series"

Fixed for you

>>82870446
I'm getting triggered anon! Stop pirating ;_;

t. Sterling Gates

>>82870198
Boo hoo Gates, if people like it enough to buy it, they will. Now I don't feel so bad about how he got all freaked out when someone impersonated him and said that Kara would get BLACKED

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>>82870548
This is what a real woman looks like!

>>82870548
I do the rest

Dammit Gates, I buy my issues of that legitimately.

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>>82870591
As someone who has never watched the hit CBS series, I have no idea who she is talking to.

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>>82870645

>>82869972
the industry isn't dying, just this particular means of earning money with it.
Stuff like patreon and kickstarter is the future. In the future we will pay for media before it is made

>>82869587
"Stealing" is a harsh word. I prefer to think of it as "Quality Control."
By reading the comic online, I can avoid giving people money for horrible piles of shit and only spend money on things I actually like and are good.
Make more good things and I will spend more money on them.

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>>82870668
Gotta rescue baby

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>>82870715
Supergirl's mom was shit at making a flight plan.

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>invulnerable kryptonian
>afraid to go on the internet
>paying for this type of riveting dialogue

>>82870645

The DEO. Her adoptive sister works for them and now she does too.

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>>82870741
What the fuck is up with Superman fictions and only saving two people and Krypton-Australia?

>>82869587
>$4 for liberal racemixing propaganda
>implying it's worth my money

>>82870084
3.99 is plenty for 20 pages of good art, maybe you should just choose what you buy better.

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>>82870790
Flat as a board.

Viewcomic is so shit, it downscales the images and then blocks access if he doesn't get enough donations. Most non retards would rather download, even on mobile.

>>82869587
He should make something worth buying, instead of capeshit then.

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>>82870834
This is pretty slow.

>>82870790
Appearantly most Kryptonians were massive dicks and laughed at Jor-El. He then went home, shook his fist muttering "I'll show then. I'll show them all!" and shot his baby into space while he and his wife exploded.

>>82870857
>I can do everything my cousin can do!
Except move comic books, apparently.

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>>82870857

>>82870862
That doesn't explain why the penal colony or the space dildos always survive.

>>82869587
For the last time piracy isn't theft, but I understand his general point and I'm not saying theft or piracy is acceptable. Excusable, but not acceptable.

>>82869587
This has nothing to do with anything, I just feel like posting this because I feel like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoZsgNHquM

I say fuck 'em. If there's really any quality in the artists' work, then the original pirates will come back and compensate them.

Nobody's entitled to a profit.

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>>82870905

>>82869642

It's a pen name.

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>>82870933
Orange She-Hulk, apparently?

>>82869972
>and the only thing killing it is dishonesty.

I too wish they'd stop clinging to their status quo.

>>82870921
>Nobody's entitled to a profit.

But people are entitled to free entertainment? Fuck you

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>>82870992
>Punching contest
>Proceed to shoulder bash

>>82870965
He willingly chose that as a name to be identified by?
Goddamn.

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>>82871026
SG needs to work on the banter.
You will fall is pretty lame.

>>82870833
>good art
o i am laffin

>>82871021
>But people are entitled to free entertainment?
Personally, I feel like I've compensated them enough by reading through this drivel.
If they want my money, make something worth my money.

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>>82871055
>Learned fighting through video games.
Raiden?

>>82871067
I should have clarified I am not talking about this.

In general terms.

>>82871027
Better than his former porn name, Pearly Gates.

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>>82870921
>Nobody's entitled to being able to afford to live.

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>>82871099
Supergirl fighting for the government is kinda weird.

>>82871027
>He willingly chose that as a name to be identified by?
>Goddamn.

Samuel Clemens thought "mark the twine" was a funny enough pun.

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>>82871119
Even in general it's not good. I do pay for variants with good art sometimes

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>>82871147
KACHOOM made me crack up.

>>82871139
thats what you get for entering the entertainment industry

>>82871080
If you don't like it, why the fuck are you pirating it?

Do you just enjoy getting mad at comic bo- Oh right, forgot where I was for a second.

>>82871139
If I sit on the street and make sculptures out of my feces, and people don't instantly give me a million dollars, should I complain?

>>82871147

Earth Whatever's government isn't completely full of douchebags.

Does have a few white martians however.

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>>82871172
Oh no!
Will this character I presume is from the Hit CBS Show die in this comic of questionable canon?
Find out next time in, whatever this comic was!

>>82871237

That's a ridiculously exaggerated comparison.

>>82871099
>She's barely feeling any of my blows!
>The solution is more force!
What the sun dipped fuck?

>>82871240

Well the DEO is being run by Martian Manhunter at this point.

>>82869972
Comics were a mistake
-Alan Moore

>>82871285
Yes it is, doesn't make the principle true. Nobody is entitled to getting payed for creating art.

>>82871169
I don't agree with this in general so we are just gonna end up disagreeing.

>>82871189
>Implying it's their fault that their stuff is being stolen.

Is this really what 4chan believes?

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>>82871277
Here the rest

Oh man, look at those poor dudes who has all the money in the world and can't get even more money. Thats terrible.

>>82871340
what do you want me to do about it faggot?

>>82871285
>art and writing is made of shit
>scuplture is made of shit

I fail to see the difference.

>>82871371
What the fuck do you think?

>>82869972
>the only thing killing it is dishonesty.

Minecraft on ipad is the real killer.

When we speak of superheroes, for many characters it's physically laborious to read their entire publishing history to gain a sense of their historical tone and status quo.

Cape comics are inaccessible and wikipedia had probably done more to make comics accessible than any marketing promotion or stunt done by Marvel or DC.

Half the time /co/ doesn't even read comics.

>>82871371
pay for the stuff you are interested, don't read the stuff you are not.

That isn't that hard.

>>82869587
No.

>>82871367
>writers
>money
No, anon.

>>82871469
They sure did forgot about Orange Woman fast.

>>82870346
>>82870526

I seriously doubt either of you hooligans even reads comics.

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>>82871320

>>82871536
>"Cute girl comic featuring prominent use of social media"
Shoot me

>>82871564
Not even you, Groucho, get bent.

>>82870678
That already happens anon and has been happening for a very long time.

>>82871571
Thanks, Batgirl!

>>82869972
>It's a dying industry
It's been dying since the golden age. I'm not too worried

Why would a government agent supergirl wear a skirt?

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>>82871320
Are you really this dense?

>>82870678
>. In the future we will pay for media before it is made

The comic industry already runs on preorders. Retailers have to buy comics at a 0 refund policy so if they over order they're just stuck with backstock

>>82871320
>>82871373

You're being childish.

The dilemma of piracy is that piracy at a small scale isn't bad because a pirate would not have otherwise paid for the product, so a pirate does not represent a lost sale.

However because of how small the comic book community is if you read a comic and enjoy without paying for it you are contributing to a lost sale.

For instance, the Wicked the Divine is lucky to break 12,000 issues a month. Give there are hundreds of millions of Americans that's almost like the comic doesn't exist.

>>82871727
Does this happen every issue?

>>82871764
>For instance, the Wicked the Divine is lucky to break 12,000 issues a month.

Fucking shit, that's 11 999 too many.

>>82871707
>Why would a government agent supergirl wear a skirt?

She's a subcontractor who designates her own uniform.

>>82869587
I love the fucking nerve of faggots like this. They should be grateful their work is being enjoyed by people who can't afford it. As if those sites were used exclusively by people with money in 1st world countries.

Fuck that fucking faggot.

>>82871630
with "is the future" i meant "it will be the primary source of income"
sure a lot of people use patreon and kickstarter, but they are only a tiny minority compared to all the regular publishers that exist, especially when it comes to animation and other such big projects

>>82871707
who would stop her?

>>82870577
That was me, still pretty proud of it desu

>>82869587
stop charging 4.50 for 5 minutes of silent entertainment
remember when comics were 10 cents and printed on shitty paper? that was the point. you put the work into what was printed, not into the printing.
fuck stop printing entirely, just put them online.

>>82871798
>Fucking shit, that's 11 999 too many.

I have to ask, what comics do you like?

Read anything interesting lately?

>>82871373
>Piracy is stealing.
>Bank robbing is stealing.

I fail to see the difference.

>>82871826
No I meant that artistic grants and funding is a thing that has existed as are advances and a whole host of other things.

People have been getting paid to do work for AGES

>>82871828
>Doubt

>>82871764
If someone was never going to pay for a ticket to see Civil War, and they were also never going to pay for a comic to read Civil War, what is the difference? In both cases, they were never intending to pay for it. Why is one a lost sale and the other is not?

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>>82871815
>I love the fucking nerve of faggots like this. They should be grateful their work is being enjoyed by people who can't afford it. As if those sites were used exclusively by people with money in 1st world countries.
>Fuck that fucking faggot.

You're embarrassing yourself, kid.

>>82871027
Dude if I ever become a writer or artist I'm going to call myself the stupidest fucking shit I can think of.

Nobody gives a damn if they see a credit listed as "Leo Brown" but if they see someone named "Lester Lister the Sister Fister" They're going to take notice.

>>82871922
Shut the fuck up Sterling and eat a dick, I'm gonna go upload your shitty comics to every fucking torrent site I find.

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If gates is lurking already supporting the book. thanks to /co/ i decided to read this series

http://i.imgur.com/J3H9QZX.png

http://i.imgur.com/MPGcSfU.png

>>82870378
Even in the big two that's not true

>>82871929
Those bars are obviously far enough apart for her to slip through.

>>82871854
>stop charging 4.50 for 5 minutes of silent entertainment

DC is dropping all their comics to 2.99 for Rebirth.

And you know what, they'll almost certainly raise it back up because that's how tiny the community has gotten.

The paying audience for comics aren't happier with cheaper comics.

>>82869587
Bought $40 of comics today anon, that good enough for ya?
Now excuse me while I get back to my full Ultimate universe torrent.

>>82871878
>If someone was never going to pay for a ticket to see Civil War, and they were also never going to pay for a comic to read Civil War, what is the difference?

The movie will be seen by millions, the comic tens of thousands.

>In both cases, they were never intending to pay for it. Why is one a lost sale and the other is not?

Realistically, Marvel is in a lucrative position that they will never go out of business. They could publish at a loss for a century and still stay around.

However, a heavily pirated comic means that DC/Marvel/etc will discontinue that work and not produce more.

Nextwave is a comic that died on the vine despite universal praise.

Gotham Central, one of the most critically praised comics, barely sold and DC only managed to make a profit on it years later.

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>>82864618

Thank you 4chan

>>82871854
They can't turn back the clock anon.

>>82872197
>Bullets are stronger than Supergirl
>>82872219
>Using a chainsaw to cut metal
This is is incredibly stupid

>>82869587
Why would I pay for anything related to that shitty show?

The only thing it has going for it is Luppachino and she's on the new SG book, I'll probably pirate it and buy those trades if it's any good.

>>82870542
Image makes most of their money off trade sales and DC is angling toward that market too

>>82871860
Yeah, many things.

W+D is just shit.

>>82872219
That's not what you use to cut steel bars

>>82871959
>Shut the fuck up Sterling and eat a dick, I'm gonna go upload your shitty comics to every fucking torrent site I find.

For obvious reasons I am not Sterling Gates, also, posturing yourself into making pathetic threats like that marks you as either a very young person or a shallow older one.

Did you even read the Supergirl storytimed in this thread? Are you familiar with his other published work?

>>82872238
>However, a heavily pirated comic means that DC/Marvel/etc will discontinue that work and not produce more.
Why does this follow? If there are x number of people willing to pay for comics and y people unwilling to pay for comics, why does it matter what percentage of y decides to read them? The paying audience is x, and was always x.

>>82872238
>Nextwave
>a Warren Ellis comic
it's a miracle it lasted as long as it did

>>82871169
that looks terrible

>>82872317
>Yeah, many things.

And those are....?

>W+D is just shit.

What do you not like about it?

>>82872324

Chainsaws can't melt steel beams.

>>82872338

Gates is Johns-lite. Not bad, but he hasn't done anything really noteworthy in his career yet.

>>82872349
>Why does this follow? If there are x number of people willing to pay for comics and y people unwilling to pay for comics, why does it matter what percentage of y decides to read them? The paying audience is x, and was always x.

Because sometimes x gets greedy and converts to y.

And for a comic where a few thousand is the difference between continuing or cancellation, x matters.

I don't really get how else we're supposed to buy comics.

I'm not going to pay $4.99 plus tip to read 1/6th of a story I may not even like. If I read it and it's good and I find it's worth owning, I'll buy a big trade so I have the entire story on my shelf I can re-read any time. That's what I did with Invincible thanks to the storytimes on /co/.

If anything, the most i'll want to spend on floppies are a dollar or so for used ones, preferably less, which I use for the same reason as the storytimes. Read a bit, see if I like it. If so, track down the rest of the floppies and get the whole collection on my shelf, or get the trades. If I don't like it then it's no big deal, I just wasted some pocket change.

>>82872539
I mean I like Hamilton and all but boy

every other piece of media for the past few months has a had a reference to it

>>82872442
>And those are....?
My favorite ongoings are Abe Sapien, Stray Bullets, The Fix, and Harrow County.

>What do you not like about it?
The art and the writing of the first 2.5 issues, which were the only ones I read.

>>82869587
>tfw

Wait, how long have normies been saying this?

>>82872561
Ironically it's women on the internet who dox men they don't like.

>>82872349
It matter specifically in terms of cancellation. If a book is making gangbusters then yeah pirates aren't going to make a huge difference, the book will continue regardless.

But if a book is struggling and you like it, why not buy a couple floppies or trades if you like the story enough to read it on pirating websites so often?

>>82872657
I bet a lot of pirates buy trades over floppies at least I do, anyway

the trouble is trades don't keep a series alive

>>82872585
>I'm not going to pay $4.99 plus tip to read 1/6th of a story I may not even like. If I read it and it's good and I find it's worth owning, I'll buy a big trade so I have the entire story on my shelf I can re-read any time. That's what I did with Invincible thanks to the storytimes on /co/.
>If anything, the most i'll want to spend on floppies are a dollar or so for used ones, preferably less, which I use for the same reason as the storytimes. Read a bit, see if I like it. If so, track down the rest of the floppies and get the whole collection on my shelf, or get the trades. If I don't like it then it's no big deal, I just wasted some pocket change.

Tradewaiting is understandable, and an inevitability of decompression becoming a norm in storytelling.

But let's be real, some pirate and never pay a dime.

>>82869587
>Supergirl is the most popular comic
Utter lies and bullshit. Why do people lie so god damn much and get away with it? Do they genuinely believe anyone will believe them?

>>82872539
What the hell is this garbage? Whoever made this deserves to be shot. They expect to be paid money for it?!

>>82872561
>>82872579
oooof
i forgot just how BAD writing got after gamergate

>>82872693
>the trouble is trades don't keep a series alive

Because the business model is flawed, but professional idiots like to blame the readership.

>>82872708
See >>82869905

>>82872657
So here is a specific instance of someone liking a borderline-cancellation book and wanting to support it. Fine, but that doesn't mean anything for piracy in general. This only affects those willing to spend money on comics, not those who aren't.

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>>82872708
DC Comics has announced that the digital-first Adventures of Supergirl comic will be released in print issues twice-monthly starting in May! The bi-weekly digital issues have been regularly hitting DC’s Digital Top Sellers list since the series debuted in January, and demand for a Supergirl comic generated by the TV show’s success has (unsurprisingly) been strong enough for DC Comics to offer it in print for comic shops as well.

http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2016/03/17/the-adventures-of-supergirl-goes-to-print-and-will-ship-twice-monthly-for-299

>>82872641
>Ironically it's women on the internet who dox men they don't like

Keep telling yourself that.

>>82872778
indeed

>>82872501
He never really had the opportunity. He really has had bad luck on most of his projects @ DC.

The day he found out what the blacked meme meant in that Supergirl thread was hilarious

>>82872913
OH NO!
It's Green Lobo!

>print floppies on shit newsprint like they used to
>use cheap or no inks/color
>load them with ads
>charge one buckaroonie each

>release the collected issue trades later
>glorious full color on fancy glossy paper
>include bonus sketches, interviews, whatever
>release for 14.99 - 24.99

Problem solved?

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>>82872835
And injustice is ending soon

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>>82872913
>Vril Dox
>is a doxxer

>>82872957
This has been addressed before--the savings from downgrading paper/printing are not significant enough. The bulk of the cost is in producing the content itself.

>>82872897
got a link to that?

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>>82872347
>tfw supergirl turns you down for netflix and chill

>>82872957
floppies already cost fuckall to actually manufacture

paying creative is what sucks up the money

>>82872957
>Problem solved?

Nope. The reading audience for comics is still too small.

Whyd they give this hack another Supergirl run?
wtf

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>>82872887
>>82872913
Brainy why

>>82872897
what

I don't feel bad about torrenting/story timing comics. I still spend money on the ones I like and buy something new once in a while. DC and Marvel use the comic IP's to make billions from merchandise, games and movies... as long as people keep paying for that, the comics are a good investment.

>>82873015
>>82873125
He came into a thread the day his Supergirl comic was announced

>>82873015
https://desustorage.org/co/thread/78201375/#78205462

>>82873194
found it, I think

http://desustorage.org/co/thread/78201375/#q78205009

>>82873309
>this kind of thing is why comic creators rarely stop by
couldn't handle the bantz

It's 2016, going down to the store and buying floppies is dead.

Why don't they have a Netflix like subscription system? I'm reading 5+ current DC titles and not paying a cent for issues (although I do trade by my favourites). Surely everyone paying $5 a month is better than a few people paying $25 a month.

>>82873426
Marvel has that, $10 for all the issues you can read from up to six months ago and hardly anyone uses it.

>>82871437
Yes.

>>82873426

Marvel Unlimited costs 1 dollar right now.

You can get nearly their entire catalog for every major title from the 60's to six months from the present.

>>82873504
>up to six months ago
I want to read dumb silver and bronze age shit. Netflix for comics, not Hulu for comics.

>>82873504
>from up to six months ago

Well, there's your problem. They should make something like
>$10 a month - Read up to 10 comics every month
>$20 a month - Read up to 30 comics
>$30 a month - Read up to 60 comics

Etc, piracy free download and all that shit included.

>>82873504
>>82873522
>6 months after release
That's still gated access

>>82873562
You can. All the back catalog they've scanned is there and they have quite a lot because of all those entire-comic-runs-on-cds they used to do.

>>82873581

Perhaps you have misread.

You get fifty years of comics, an unlimited number of times to read them.

>>82873604
>That's still gated access

Cry me a fucking river.

>>82873659
But I'm thinking about NEW comics, on day of release

>>82873604
Including current comics would be unfeasible with this model. It's not like trade waiters don't also end up waiting at least six months.

>>82873702
with Marvel it's more like 8 months

>>82873634
Oh, I completely misinterpreted what "up to six months ago" meant, to be the exact opposite of what you intended it to mean. This system makes way more sense and seems like a nice value. Might look into it actually.

>>82873695
>Cry me a fucking river.
Truth hurts
>>82873702
>Including current comics would be unfeasible with this model
Because?

>>82869711
I'm probably being naive, but isn't viewcomics a charity? Like it constantly has to replenish itself with money from the readers so it's not completely unpaid for.

>>82873795
Because people need to get paid and $10 a month doesn't cut it.

>>82873928
>Because people need to get paid and $10 a month doesn't cut it.
It's not tough maths.

If you have more people paying less money, that can be a better financial move than having less people pay more money.

If you did a poll right now, I think you would find that those who pirate issues outnumber those who pay by a significant margin.