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Why didn't the Joker ever have Harley sit down with Batman

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Why didn't the Joker ever have Harley sit down with Batman (she might be batshit insane, but she does have a psychology degree if I recall correctly) and explain to him how everything he's doing is basically a child's reaction to a parent's death? Basically tell him that he's shaming his parents by obsessing over their deaths instead of moving on.

I think Hugo Strange touched on how Batman makes villains more "villainish" by existing. Same argument people use for police militarization and how more dakka will make other gits needs more dakka too. I guess I'm just surprised that Bane is pretty much the only foe of Batman that comes to mind to really try to break him mentally.

On a side note, I fucking hate her new pigtails. The old harlequin hood was way better IMO.
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She has a psych degree because she slept her way through college. She knows jack shit about how the brain works or why people are crazy.
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>>82852636
It'd be like having Charles Manson sit down with you talking about why you want to have sex with your mother. He's obviously insane himself, so why would you listen to anything he has to say?
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>>82853752
>a comic based on the cartoon is always canon

She's been shown time and time again that she knows how analyze people.
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>>82852636
The Joker doesn't care why batman does his thing, heck he doesn't even care who Batman is.

>>82853752
That was a terrible writing decision, luckily it's non-canon.
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>>82853919
>>82854976
>O dont like it so its not canon!

It is still the original version by her creator and thus holds its fair share of legitimity. Besides it goes with her character far better than this need her fans have to make her so great.
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>>82852636
Probably because nobody, including the Joker and Harley, know who Batman is or why he became the Batman.

As >>82854976 pointed out, Joker doesn't even care.
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>>82852636
>Why didn't the Joker ever have Harley sit down with Batman (she might be batshit insane, but she does have a psychology degree if I recall correctly) and explain to him how everything he's doing is basically a child's reaction to a parent's death? Basically tell him that he's shaming his parents by obsessing over their deaths instead of moving on.
Why would this even work? What would be the point? Batman's going to listen to a supervillain psychoanalyze him, someone who only got her degree because they were fascinated by high-profile crazies and wanted to write a book about one, and ended up falling for a mass murderer?
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>>82856380
Honestly it is far more in character for her. If she's retarded enough to fall in love with the Joker, how could she have gotten through school?
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>>82852636
>Why didn't the Joker ever have Harley sit down with Batman (she might be batshit insane, but she does have a psychology degree if I recall correctly) and explain to him

Because insane or not, Batman would understand the difference between a psychologist, psychiatrist and psychoanalyst.

Only one of those is capable of diagnosing you. If Harley's a psychologist, she's not legally permitted to make diagnoses.

If she's a psychiatrist, that means she already went through med school (5+ years), then another probably 5 years of training on specialist wards in psychiatry. You can't start med school until you reach the age of majority (18 in the US) because of the drugs and other chemicals you'll be expected to handle, and because as a minor another person cannot legally be your ward - ie, you can't be made their doctor, which is an important part of training new doctors. I know, it happened on Doogie Howser, but that was made up. In real life nobody would ever be permitted to attend a medical school in the US below the age of majority, let alone graduate - and you can't cut the time to graduation down either, because an awful lot of it is based on practical work, hours on wards under supervision, that kind of thing; not on exams. On top of that, you have to be registered and licensed to practice medicine at the state level, and anybody who isn't is legally not capable of diagnosing a turd they stepped in. Batman wouldn't see any reason to listen.

So Harley would need to be at a minimum (assuming she didn't flunk out of her psychiatry training - she'd still be an MD, which is the lowest possible medical degree and equivalent to the Bachelor of Science awarded in other countries) 28 years old when she encounters Batman as a rogue. Does she look like she's pushing 30? She usually looks like she's pushing 20.

tl;dr because she's not capable of diagnosing him and likely has an undergraduate degree from a liberal arts college. Yes, psychology is a liberal art.
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>>82852636
Because he already knows that?
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Batman know his flaws but he does it anyway because he can't stop himself; My favourite interpretation of him is A Serious House on Serious Earth.

Harley had a chat with Bat's in one of her comics which dealt with some stuff, He was just biding his time and playing her
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>>82853752
>>82856380
>>82856546
What comic is it?
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>>82857026
Mad Love, the comic modern harleyfags simply refuse to read.
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>>82856546
>If she's retarded enough to fall in love
Edgy Faggot
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>>82857124
>with the Joker
Retarded Faggot
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>>82852636
as usual kids are right though
if your parents got murdered by some fuck in an alley, you need to start violently assaulting everyone bad until they stop
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>>82857105
Thank you.
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>>82857157
>Not getting it
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>>82856546
>how could she have gotten through school
Getting a PhD isn't hard. It just takes a heap of time.
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>>82856380
And in a later story by her creator she nails Batman's backstory after a few seconds thought based on her knowledge of Batman.
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>>82853752

The problem is that you must go through MEDICAL SCHOOL to get a psych degree and the realistic possibility of being able to just sleep with EVERYONE in that process is fucking crazy and impossible. It's way more sensible to think that she did something a handful of times that to think that's all she did. Which is all Mad Love showed anyway, a single time.
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>>82857291

A PhD is different from an MD which is what Harley has.
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>>82856546

Plenty of doctors,scientists, engineers, etc. in the real world are retarded. Being book smart doesn't translate into being intelligent in other areas automatically. I was thinking of just one case where a research team faked having cloned a human and did a terrible job at faking it, at that. Plenty of other cases where someone with a fancy degree from a good school did something mind-numbingly stupid pop up in the news.

In Harley's case she's more insane than she is actually stupid though, I think. Although practically it shakes out to the same thing.
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>>82856818
Psychologists can make a diagnoses, they're usually not allowed to write prescriptions but in some jurisdictions they can after receiving training. As a her position was an applied psychology field she'd also have to be registered and licensed in the state. She's also a doctor, which means she has both a masters and doctorate.

As for the age thing, rarely are appropriate ages, or their depictions, used. Most of Batman's rogues would logically be in their mid-thirties and older. It's the same reason why Carol Danvers isn't pushing sixty despite retiring from the Air Force a full bird colonel.

tl;dr She's perfectly capable of diagnosing him and canonically has either a doctorate degree or MD depending on writer. Oh, and mathematics and natural sciences are liberal arts.
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>>82857922
Harley's thing is that she's a failure, even extending to her backstory.

Gymnast capable of competing on an Olympic level who didn't make the Olympic team. Got a psych doctorate but had to sleep with a professor once to get it. Scored a lucrative gig at Arkham to parlay into fame only to fall in love with the Joker and throw it away. Is actually a pretty good supervillain in her own right but constantly ruins it with her dependency issues and obsessions. Escaped a troubled childhood being raised by a mentally ill mother and recidivist felon father only to become a mentally ill recidivist felon.
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>>82857742
This.
Most likely she got a few bad grades here and then for the more boring subjects and got around that by fucking- remember she ALSO got in Arkham somehow. It's unlikely they would let anybody in... then again, it's ARKHAM.
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>>82852636
>sit down with your worse enemies and let them mindfuck you
How retarded are you? Also the whole thing about Batman being a villain catalyst stems from TDKR and Dr. Wolper, 2 decades before Huge Strange.
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>>82860098
>2 decades before Huge Strange
What?
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>>82852636
>Why didn't the Joker ever have Harley sit down with Batman (she might be batshit insane, but she does have a psychology degree if I recall correctly) and explain to him how everything he's doing is basically a child's reaction to a parent's death? Basically tell him that he's shaming his parents by obsessing over their deaths instead of moving on.

That's not very funny. I don't know why Joker would do that.
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