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You can change five things about the movie. Only five. No cheating.

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You can change five things about the movie.

Only five. No cheating.

What do you change?
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>More Spidey
>More ANTS
>Extended airport fight
>Wanda referencing her brother
>Death of War Machine
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>>82761292
Can I change less than five things if I want to?
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>>82761292

Nothing. I liked it as is.
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>>82761350
Sure.

You just can't change beyond.
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The UN actually steps in and takes control and the second half of the movie is entirely paperwork, old people arguing in a room, and the slow machine of bureaucracy doing its thing.
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1. remove Scarlet Witch's clothes for most of the movie. She may wear only a corset on occasion
2. make her appear in every scene
3. add a living Trex skeleton as the main enemy
4. add a second Spider-man identical to the first, except on Captain America's team
5. add an awesome-sounding narrator who talks during scene transitions
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Not gay enough.
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Joss Whedon dying on screen.

Pym commenting about the Stanks.

Wanda missing her brother and commenting how he is a perfect kisser.

More Redwing.

Crossbones alive.
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Less shaky cam in the movie during first action sequence

Better cgi

Honestly thats it. The only idea i can think of is adding Daredevil but everyone was pretty balanced in the film and i dont wanna throw that off
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End with Tony meeting with his New Avengers (Spidey, Vision, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange), or more bittersweet note

Crossbones lives

Scott intro with family agreeing for him to help team Cap
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>No wingnigger
>Less quips
>better Spiderman costume
>actual consequences to the war
>Ironman not being a weak-ass faggot that gets his ass kicked by two slightly above average humans punching him
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>>82761292

Make it a Captian America movie.
Make it look like a movie and not like a tv show
Use practical effects, not 10 fucking CGI studios
More tits
More black panther
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>>82761554
>actual consequences to the war

>Avengers are disbanded
>Iron Man's team broken too since it's only War Machine, Iron Man and Vision
>Team Cap on the run
>Vision and Wanda relationship setup
>Zemo is alive along with Ross, will probably result in Thunderbolts
>Black Panther is born
>MCU Spiderman is set up, along with his friendship with Tony
>Team Cap is hiding in Wakanda, will probably appear in Black Panther movie
>Accords in full effect, will probably affect the other Earth MCU movies
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>>82761292
Show more civilian opinion towards the Avengers and the Accords.
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>>82761554
>Less quips
What quips? I know you're still stuck in repeating stale /tv/ memes but the movie's only quips were from spider-man and that's in-character
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>>82761292
I change Bucky and Captain American as coninically gay.

THIS IS WHAT EVERYONE WANTED FOR GOD'S SAKE.

They totally did a shitty "no homo" on this movie and erased bi Steve.
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Crossbones lives
Rhodes dies
Allude to zemo costume and masters of evil or thunderbolts
Maybe just a scene with daredevil or punisher

Struggling to think of much really, probably a good thing
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bring back quick slav I liked him
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>>82761415
11/10, movie of the year, right here.
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>>82761292
>better cinematography
>less shaky cam
>Tony ending up beaten harder than he was, you know, make it feel like Cap really pushed his shit in
>alusion to Zemo's costume
>more barefoot Wanda chilling in her room
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Sokovia Accords are about
>south africa city fight
>sokovia
>some other stuff off camera done by avengers when cleaning up hydra.

Antman uses ants.

Coulson is at Peggy's funeral
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Fuck ''muh pure'' waifufags, make Wanda a slut.
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>>82761733
>wanting Captain America to be colaninically gay

Can't you just stick with the fanart? Why you have to shit on the characterization of two straight characters?
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>Somehow hint that Zemo will return with the costume
>Abomination cameo on the Raft
>Don't kill Crossbones
>Better Spider-man sting. Maybe a hint to a supervillain causing trouble without showing who
>Give Hank Pym a small appearance when Scott gets the call to get involved
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Change the directors
Change the composer
Remove wingguy and black Ironman
Change the cinematographer
Sell the right to DC
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1.Better CGI, IM's and WM's suits looked far too obviously CGI
2.Wanda having the headpeice
3.Less quips during the airport fight (Not including spiderman)
4.Don't use Ross, he's being a hypocrite, makes little sense for him to be the one to tell the avengers to be put in line after creating abomination
5. More Black Panther
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>>82761918
>have to give phone number
Fuck off spammer.
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>>82761962
>phone number
Are you fucking retarded
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>>82761384
Okay.

1. Captain America: Civil War makes even more money at the box office than is currently predicted.
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>>82761733
While even people in the armed forces (or especially people in the armed forces) can tell you that it can get pretty homoerotic I think it's better with them straight. They're childhood friends and war veterans who served with each other, not lovers.
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>>82761962
You can x out of the advertisement, dumbass.
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>Zemo is not a mary sue
>Secret identities are the main reason for the fight
>Add Daredevil, Punisher, and other characters
>More screen time for Antman, Spiderman and black panther
Less Cap
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>>82761292
Honestly, I think its the best movie in the MCU.

But:
1. Allusions to the Baron part of Baron Zemo. I don't need the purple mask, but having him be just some Ops guy from Sokovia is kinda weird. He's still probably the best MCU villain though.
2. Cap gives the "No you move" speech to Spidey. It makes no sense to me that we have a movie with both Cap & Spidey and Sharon Carter says it at a funeral.
3. A few more minutes with Scott Lang. I know, it's not his movie, but he seems the most fucked over by the events and he's just kinda thrown into the movie.
4. Vision actually doing stuff during the airport fight. Seriously, go to /wsg/, watch the whole fight. He does pretty much nothing. Even a few shots of a "rematch" between him and Wanda would have been enough for me.
5. Peter being somewhat suspicious of Tony's motives after the fight. He's a kid that loves Stark, so I'm cool with what they did, but I dunno... Peter switching sides is such a huge thing in the comic story, which admittedly isn't a very good story, that I was hoping to see that.

Also, I kinda would have liked to see Cap's rogue Avengers still doing Avenging on like a C-list villain like Grey Gargoyle or Serpent Society, but whatever. That's all stuff thats going to be addressed soon anyway.
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>>82761962
fucking milennials jesus christ
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>>82761292
1. Get rid of Spider Man
2. Get rid of Black Panther
3. Get rid of Ant Man
4. Get rid of The Winter Soldier
5. Add Thor and Hulk
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>>82762023
>Zemo
>mary sue
What
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>>82762084
>someone plays Civil War for free
>guy sees ad for the phone app
>NOT GIVING MY PHONE NUMBER
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>>82762023
"Competent" is not synonymous with Mary Sue. A lot of the Avengers are closer to being Mary Sues than Zemo is, like Vision (ALL THE SUPERPOWERS JIMMY ALL OF THEM) or Cap (granted that's kind of part of his character). Thor is the only one I'd argue is an actual Marty Stu but he wasn't in the movie
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>>82761918
Shit, this is pretty good quality

Thanks anon
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>>82762138
Yep, enjoy m8
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>>82761553
> Strange
> Betraying Vishanti by working for governments
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This scene without t-shirt
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>>82761292
>Less IronMan
>Better role for Spidey/No Spidey at all
>Spidey tells Stark to go fuck himself after he finds out what's going on
>Zemo worse a sock on his head
>Less IronMan
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>>82761292
I change the villains name.

There was no point in naming him Zemo. Coulda been "Carl Smith" for all it mattered. Why waste the title of Baron Zemo on a nobody?
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>>82762243
I used to think his face was handsome but lately it just looks kind of average to me.
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>>82761733

fuck off faggot
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>>82761950
Wanda having the head-piece in Infinity War works better for symbolizing her rejection of humanity post-CW.
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>>82762244
*wore
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>>82761342
All of this but WM's Death.
I actually wanted Cap to die.
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>>82761733
kill yourself faggot
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>Spider-Man makes actually funny jokes instead of being a spaghetti spilling autist

>Tony tries to recruit Lang first but Pym punches him in the face

>Airport battle is half the length so things happen in a reasonable time span and half the cast isn't just jerking off while not on-screen

>Zemo has a sword somewhere and gets more screentime

>Black Panther has more involvement in the bunker than just following everyone and chilling with Zemo
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>>82761918
THANKS MAN
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>>82761437
>First one
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>>82762310
I just want muh headpeice
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>>82761292
1. Thunderbolt Ross is actually called out on the shit that he did in Hulk movies.
2. Public backlash against the UN attempting to militarize superhumans.
3. Zemo died like a bitch in a freak accident of his own doing as oppose to being capture after a failed suicide attempt.
4. Thunderbolt being fired after his failures were publicly exposed.
5. Ending credit featuring Ross experimenting with gamma radiation on himself after deciding that he must police the superhumans himself if he have to.
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>>82762493
We have to avoid triggering Bendis anon, or he might do something drastic.
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>>82762294
Where do you live where most people can frequently be mistaken as handsome
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>>82762246
>only major villain in the MCU besides Loki that's still alive
>all this sudden Thunderbolts syngery in the comics & Avengers Assemble
>Bruhl has a multi-part contract
Anon, it's really obvious they're setting him up to be a key player in the MCU and go full Baron
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1. More exposure on Zemo, maybe him telling his son that he has noble blood and is destined to change the world, then he dies in Skovia with his mother

2. Introduce Silver Sable Inc as another set up for Spidey

3. Have Stark talk to Pym aboit Giant Man, and have Pym tell Stark to fuck right off

4. Show newspaper clippings of events that happened in the mcu up until that point. Battle for NYC, The Devil of Hell's Kitchen, Skovia

5. During the MIT scene, a guy stands up, "Mr Stark, could you hologram projectors be used in films? You know, to have real CGI effects?"
"You want to use my tech for movies? What's your name?"
"Beck, Quentin Beck."
"I really like that idea Q, go for it."
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>>82761292
>get rid of Wanda's coat
>get rid of Wanda's corset
>get rid of Wanda's onesie
>get rid of Wanda's left boot
>get rid of Wanda's right boot
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>>82762587
>Rulkbolts
>Not OG Thunderbolts

Get the fuck out, Anon.
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>>82762671
This could have made Civil War win an Oscar Tbh Pham.
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Spider-Man gets replaced with Daredevil
Captain America recruits Spider-Man
Ant-Man introduced at the begin and stays through the whole film
Scott and Peter are the only ones who quip
Quicksilver is revived and joins Wanda
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>No Vision and Wanda
>Less Zemo, make his appearance at the end a twist
>Tony figures out Bucky's connected to his parents' death sooner, giving him motivation to hunt after him with extreme prejudice
>No references to Iron Man 3
>Black Panther's dad isn't in the movie, he is a neutral party, a liaison between superheroes acting under the Accords and the UN
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>>82762023
>Zemo is not a mary sue
You're the reason we can't use that term anymore
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>>82762607

Bendis has nothing to do with it. Olsen has stated doesn't want the tiara.
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>>82762071
>2. Cap gives the "No you move" speech to Spidey. It makes no sense to me that we have a movie with both Cap & Spidey and Sharon Carter says it at a funeral.
Because in this context, Peggy (through Sharon) is the 616 Cap's analogue to MCU Cap's Spidey
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>>82762688
Can't have original Thunderbolts when Zemo died like a bitch and other characters haven't been introduce yet.
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>>82762243
This scene without pants.
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>>82762806
>when Zemo died like a bitch
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>>82762853
He got frozen at the end of the movie. Bucky is unavailable. Pay attention please.

>Bucky OG Thunderbolts
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>>82762791
Exactly, the less she looks like comic Scarlet Witch, the less we trigger Bendis.
And then have her be the one who kills Thanos to give him a surprise heart attack.
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>>82762302
>>82762351

No FUCK YOU samefag

Steven X Bucky is the best pairingcandidato everyone knows.

It should have been canon.
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1) Recast Scarlet witch. Liz Olsen isn't bad, but cast an actress with actual Roma heritage or at least someone who looks the part like Tatiana Maslany. Make her less of a damsel too.

2) Better costume for Zemo.

3) No dead villains

4) Matt Murdoch cameo

5) Agent 13 actuall; does stuff
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>>82762964

how does this work?
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>>82763051
Scarlet Witch is a slav in the MCU anon.
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>>82761553
Doc strange would be on cap's side
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>better Cap costume
>keep up GOAT soundtrack from previous Cap movies instead of shitty generic Avengers soundtrack
>Spidey gets lectured by Cap and helps Cap get away instead of Black Widow
>Stark ends up feeling like shit in his final scene instead of quipping some more
>less Stark, more everyone else
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>>82761292
Vision phases Wanda out of her clothes.
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>>82763136

She should be romani though. They said the twins were meant to be romani in interviews too. Roma are treated badly enough without taking two of their only heroes from them. I was angry when they cast the whitest girl possible and didn't even mention their background.
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>>82763239
Leave Tumblr.
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>>82762806
Zemo lived at the end. What are you on about?
BP stopped him from shooting himself and then he was shown in custody.
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>>82763251

How is it tumblr to point out completely erasing a character's ethnicity is sort of fucked up?

it's pretty important to her character. not on the same level as magneto being jewish but close.
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>>82762493
In the context of her arc I hope we see a headpiece. She's rejected conformity and does not care much for humanity, so her costume will reflect that. Should be really otherworldly.

>>82762791
The big plastic tiara as it was in the comics. They should totally redesign it and be more radical than Wada, something that looks ancient and ornate.
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>>82763252
see >>82761292 >>82762587

Learn to read too while you are at it. Not that difficult.
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>>82763315
Look at current Scarlet Witch, the one in the MCU.
You think it would matter at all if she was romanian?
She would be exactly the same character.
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1. Add scenes that would help make Tony knowing Peter's secret identity make sense. As it stands right now, it just goes completely unexplained.

2. Change Spidey's costume to be the same one from Amazing Spider-Man 2. Even if people hated that movie, it had the best Spider-Man costume.

3. Have Spider-Man realize Tony's a fucking idiot and bail out of the fight on his own rather than getting knocked the fuck out.

4. Have Captain America say "Avengers Assemble" at the start when they're all going after Crossbones. I'm fucking sick and tired of the MCU not letting Cap say his catchphrase.

5. Add something to make Vision come off as less of a fucking creep. I don't know what, but surely something could have made him seem less like a horny stalker.
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>>82763239
>She should be romani though.

Well I, for one, am glad they're not. It's a good thing they/she isn't Gypsy scum anymore. based Olsen is best Wanda.
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>End with Cap arrested after freeing his team.
>Zemo mentions his father frequently.
>Martin Freeman's character is Peter Gyrich.
>Cap broughts up Ultron when discussing with Stark.
>He discovers that they are planning to capture anyone that doesn't sign and that's why he goes rogue.
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more vision
wanda references her brother
death of war machiine
death of hawkeye
death of bucky
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>>82763439
This.
We had plenty of Scarlet Witches.
It was about time we had a qt one.
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>>82763539
Would be interesting, but no Bucky dying.
Evans confirmed that Infinity War 2 will be his last MCU movie, so we need Bucky to become Cap.
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1. Full penetration.
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>>82761292
Only one, have Scarlet Witch btfo Vision hard in the airport fight.
They have to show what he was doing in the fight anyway, plus he was a huge douchebag.
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>>82761292
>Vision actually does shit in the fight scene
That's about it.
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>>82763610
Mostly fight Scarlet Witch and backing off constantly like the beta faggot he is.
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>>82763439
>>82763421
>>82763315

On the one hand the story with the UN kind of reflects the Romani stuff in that the world totally shits on her, they use the Witch stuff and the "not a US citizen" to put the racism angle as an allegory. Its not directly there, but its there.
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>>82763046
oh, its just bait
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Threads like these remind me why /co/ isn't working at Hollywood.
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>>82762023
>>Secret identities are the main reason for the fight
Daredevil and Spidey are the only 2 heroes with secret identities right now
thats nothing to start a fight over
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>>82763694
Because it would requiere a lot of work and shitposting in 4chan is way too much fun?
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>>82763527
Fox owns Geyrich.
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>>82763694
I agree Fan4stic is a great movie
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>>82763562
no. there should only be one captain america in the mcu. the character is too perfect. thanos destroys the shield and kills cap. iron man, dr. strange, or miss marvel takes over as leader of the avengers.
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>All these butthurt Cap fans salty that Spidey is Team Ironman.
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More Hawkeye and the deaths of several main characters.
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>>82764112
Fuck no, Quicksilver died and that was a mistake.
I want all of them in Infinity War.
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>>82761437
>Wanda missing her brother and commenting how he is a perfect kisser.
This, Love between a sister and a brother is the purest expression of passion.
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>Have Tony and Cap switch positions on the Accords

That's about the most interesting change I got
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>>82761437
>>82764227
Delete this.
Wanda and Pietro are pure.
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>>82763962
Two wrongs don't make a right, Tony.
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>>82764094
>All these butthurt Ironman fags that Iron manlet got beaten single handily with months of prep time.
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1. More Spiderman, he was 10/10
2. Quiksilver's death being brought up by Wanda, showing a bit of her coping
3. Less Black Widow, less Black Panther and weaken him (he was retardedly powerful)
4. Remove the giant panther statue from the end of the movie (half the theatre started actually laughing, that was retarded)
5. Rhodey dies
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>>82761292

Stop taking the focus away from Cap (this is his movie)
More Sharon/Steve
Give slightly more hints on past romance of Bucky/Widow
Crossbones doesn't die (seriously stop killing your fucking villains)
More Clint
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>>82763363
>She's rejected conformity and does not care much for humanity

she doesn't care if people are afraid of her. If she rejected humanity in general why would she be a superhero?
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All five are characters I would have added to make it more interesting.

Seriously, Black Panther was not enough of an addition. Even if it was a very welcome one.

Or I'd have just deleted Bucky from the movie and changed the whole plot line.
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>>82764304
She does miss his pure cuddles.
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>>82762071
Spidey wasn't even that important to the main storyline of Civil War, even Millar admitted to that

>>82764450
This famalam
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>>82761733
>>82763046
Shoo shoo Fujoshit
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>>82764450
>Stop taking the focus away from Cap
>More Sharon/Steve
this
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>>82763421

Romani, not Romanian. Do you understand the difference? The Romani people are easily the most shat upon European minority and were half wiped out in the Holocaust. They have almost no positive role models aside from a few sterotypical Gypsy figures like Esmerelda.

This shit is important. Especially with Amerifats who get so much of their worldview from the media.
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>>82764094
I'm not, Cap got best Bugman anyway.

Tony only got Peter because he wanted to feel taller than someone and even then I think Tom is bigger than RDJ.

Bet the Manlet got internally triggered once he saw Giant Man, I guess now we know why Pym protects his particles from falling into Stark's hands.
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>>82761292
Michael Douglas beating the FUCK out of RDJ. Both in movie and off set as the credit stinger.
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>>82764602

Unfortunately the fucktards are obsessed with Iron Man and the focus of a Marvel film almost can't be taken away from him to keep idiots happy.
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>>82764450
>past romance of Bucky/Widow

how the fuck could this have happened in the movieverse? Prior to WS he was a Hydra assassin and had even shot her once. The only time it would work is if she somehow knew he was in Bucharest and they were fucking in between the two films.
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>War Machine and Vision are in Lagos. Crossbones has a drone target Captain America, which War Machine takes out, while Vision protects the crowd.

>Baron Zemo mentions that his family comes from a royal lineage, and carries a sword, previously belonging to his father, and his father before, which is a symbol of the Zemo bloodline and that he couldn't gift his son with. He attempts to commit suicide with it, but Black Panther stops the blade.

>Ross reveals to Stark that the true nature of the Accords predicts that all superhumans must either collaborate with the government and be detained as potential menaces to national security, with Spider-Man being their first target.

>Extended airport battle with more individual battles. Sharon Carter is also there and fights Black Widow.

>The Avengers go their separated ways after being rescued by Captain America.

I'm going to cheat and add one more.

>After the airport battle, Spider-Man tells Stark that saving the world isn't his role, he's there to fight for the little guy, and reminds Stark that "with great powers come great responsabilities".
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>>82764662
Isn't Cap more popular than Iron Manlet now, anyway?
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>>82761292
>Wouldn't kill Cross Bones
>Give Scarlet witch her head piece
>Show the Abomination somewhere in the raft
>Don't have Clint act like such a whiny little bitch in prison.
>Show less control of Wanda's powers in the Airport fight
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>>82764783

Hardly.

Robert Downey Jr. is a really fucking good actor and it's hard to break away from it when Chris Evans is a garbage party by comparison.
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>>82762359
Spider-Man is SUPPOSED to be a spaghetti spilling autist, his quips are a defense mechanism rather than him being a smartass. Like people who talk a lot when nervous. And even then most of the people at my theather laughed.
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>>82764662
Agreed
the movie had way too much unnecessary iron man, who already had his own trilogy for himself and starred in two team-up movies
marvel cant get enough of this obnoxious quip machine and apparently neither can't a mindless general audience
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>>82764901
Stop it with the quips meme already, there were barely any quips in the movie and exactly ONE of them was by Iron Man. Whedon is gone, you can stop crying now
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>>82764662
>>82764901

>why weren't the Avengers in cap 2
>why were the Avengers in cap 3
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>Cap says "Now, we are in Lagos"
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>>82764982

Dude that's not it at all.

I'm addressing the movie as it is without basing it against any of the others. Quit being an obstinate ass.
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>>82765019
People were always complaining about why the Avengers didn't all show up in past solo films.
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>>82765051

Well, it's not the worst point in the world to make.

I loved that Black Widow/Punisher film when members of the avengers suddenly showed up. What people understand is that it's so much easier to do that in animation than it is in live action.
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>>82765123

* often don't understand

Christ I've had too much coffee today.
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>Spidey has a better role in the story, rather than just coming in and participating in the fight
>Zemo wears the mask, and he mentions his royal ancestry. Explain that his face was scarred during the events of Age Of Ultron when a jar of boiling hot adhesive fell on his skin as the city rose into the sky
>Crossbones survives and is imprisoned on the Raft. near the end of the movie, General Ross releases him from the Raft on the grounds that he assassinates Captain America, which he does
>After Cap gets killed, Tony goes AWOL and frees Team Cap from the Raft.
>Falcon becomes replacement Cap until he is revived in Infinity War
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>>82761386
/thread.

Go home everybody and by that I mean go back to /tv/.
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>>82765419
>wasting Infinity War plotline to revive Cap
>forcing everything in the plot to revive Cap, even though he can't do shit against Thanos so there's no real reason to waste time reviving him
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>>82761292
>reskin all the heroes to be DC heroes
>save the DCEU
Done in two.
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>>82761733
>coninically
What
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>>82764783
There was a poll taken that said 75% of people are Team Cap or something.
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>>82763363

The current arc headdress is pretty nice.

>>82764486

Yeah but you can still be a superhero under those pretexts... remember the character was originally a mutant and was fairly militant about it the first few years in the avengers.
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Longer plane scene between Bucky and Cap. I thought it was retarded how much time Tony had to treat Rhodey AND go to the Raft AND look up Zemo's backstory in the time they were flying because of how short that scene was.
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>>82765831
>Longer plane scene
This.
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>>82765804

Why would she risk her life to stop threats to human lives if she doesn't care about humanity? and mutants don't exist in MCU
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>>82762243
This scene without Captain America
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>>82761733
As long as they're gay enough that it keeps the porn flowing is all I care about.
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>>82761815

would rob a homeless man to see this wanda live-action.
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>>82764839
>>82764783
Every poll Team Cap vs Team Iron Man poll that has ever been done has had Cap winning.
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>>82766244
And by that I mean every major polling held by Marvel, Pizza Hutr, etc... and hell I am pretty sure Cap won a /co/ poll.
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>>82761292
Give Bucky a less shitty outfit for one. He had some really cool looking costumes in the concept art.
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>>82766053
But she is likely millitant now, the mirror of Rhodey.

The UN and especially US are on her Shit List.
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>Crossbones lives
>Sharon and Steve's relationship having more depth
>some hint on Zemo's family legacy
>winter soldiers stay alive so they could be used in a Brubaker-based Winter Soldier solo movie
>leaving Steve's team in the Raft until next movie
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1) War Machine is more heavily injured - he either dies or is left in a coma state
2) Zemo wears a purple ski mask before he opens up the Russian base Maybe also we get a flashback shot of Zemo in the immediate aftermath of the disaster - the rubble is old architecture, like a manor or castle
3) A throwaway line in the film refers to the Avengers stopping Fixer, Goliath, Beetle or Angar and Screaming Mimi
4) Hank Pym makes an appearance at some point
5) Ant Man actually uses ants at some point
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>>82764982
the movie became Iron Man V Captain America halfway through
so much for getting a movie titled Civil War
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>>82761292

>1. have war machine use his fucking payload against something besides an airport cargo bridge

>2. have everyone endure ripped clothing during battle; the only one's appearing to take dmg were tony and rhodes.

>3. have falcon retconned into a telepathic falcon with hilarious one liners and quips

>4. have ant man in the movie instead of paul rudd

>5. more scenes between tony and rhodey to help remind everyone that they're besties; there needs to be more chemistry between them..nearly sexual in its nature

>3.a. don't make falcon the quip guy or the 'tough' guy; make him the nerd with incredible skills
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>>82766606
But the nerd with incredibly skills is Spiderman.
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1-4. a bunch of stuff thats been said a ton this thread
5. Hope breaking Scott out of prison at the same time as Cap showing up so she gets to be part of Steve's Avengers
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>>82764942
his final scene ends with a quip
says a lot of the guy right after being part of a "civil war"
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>>82766626

there can be more than one nerd with incredible skills just like there's more than one tough guy.
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>Make Sharon unrelated to Peggy/give her more flirting with Cap before they kiss in Infinity War
>Zemo wears the purple mask walking around the snow in Siberia, and has a sword at his belt
>give Scott a better motive for joining Team Cap other than "Cap needs me", since he's throwing away his ability to spend time with his daughter
>don't bust the heroes out of the Raft, that shit should've been saved for Ant-Man and the Wasp
>put back the dialogue scenes between Bucky and Cap that got cut out, after the last few films made a big deal of Cap trying to find him
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>>82765419
>>Crossbones survives and is imprisoned on the Raft. near the end of the movie, General Ross releases him from the Raft on the grounds that he assassinates Captain America, which he does
That is retarded
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>>82761292
1 MUCH Less Bucky. This was less a civil war and more a custody battle.
2 More Spiderman
3 More Antman
4 I think the two sides should have spent more time spilt up. People were just hanging out with each other and going from one place to the next. I wanted a big splash of two waves crashing together. This felt more like a domestic dispute.
5 If you are going to use Zemo, make him Zemo. I want ridiculous purple balaclava.
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>>82761292
There's a scene in the airport battle where Scott summons a squadron of flying ants, uses Pym Particles to makes them huge and rides them to the tune of Ride of the Valkyries.

That's it.
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Scott uses Ants.
Spidey's costume.
Zemo wears a purple ski mask once.
A bit more of the Avengers day to day life.
It's called Avengers: Disassembled.
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>>82761815
>make Wanda a slut
well, she already had sex with Thanos
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>>82767306
Different movie.
Wanda is pure.
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1. add a part in the movie where it shows tony and peter designing his new costume.
2.more man-spider
3. more actual fights between the teams.
4.tony beats the living shit out of Bucky
5.more of the "move or you will be moved" girl.
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>>82767306
delete this
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>>82763424
>1. Add scenes that would help make Tony knowing Peter's secret identity make sense. As it stands right now, it just goes completely unexplained.

I generally loved how different the movie was from the comics, since it felt new and fresh with its own tone. This really bugged me though. Spider-Man's identity being secret is pretty important, and I get that they didn't have time to develop him on his own, but Tony just showing up and knowing who he is wasn't great. (Also them just going through bullet points of "what a Spider-Man is" was awkward)

Maybe they should've just ripped off that one comic where Wolverine is peeking in at Peter and Aunt May and Spidey goes nuts for them bringing the super-nonsense to his home.
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>>82761292
Honestly, my only real complaint would be that Sharon needed more attention. I mean, I don't necessarily mind her being in the background, nor I need to see her in the airport fight, but if you're gonna officialize the relationship with Steve at least make it count, you know?
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>>82762087
>Get rid of ANTS
How can a person be so fucking wrong?
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>>82761554
>wanting less mackie
no
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>>82761292
1. Make it an Avengers movie.
2. Move Cap/Bucky setup to different movie that leads into this one.
3. Have Hulk and Thor in it.
4. Most of the movie is Tony and Cap trying to convince Hulk and Thor to join their side.
5. Final battle is everyone against Hulk/Thor teamup after they decide everyone needs to check their egos.
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>>82767306
Plot hole: Thanos is in love with Lady Death
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>>82768982
>relationship

that kiss between sharon and cap was so forced that it hurt. and then immediately after, she turned serious face like it didn't even happen. shit was kek lvl.
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this thread makes me glad no one on /co/ worked on the movie
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>>82764394
>wants rhodey dead
>wants bp less powerful

tell me, what do you think of falcon? i think i'm recognizing a pattern.
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>>82769321
And Wanda is the only one that can potentially kill him.
POTTERY
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>>82769445
To be fair I think it was supposed to be awkward

>I'm too late, am I?
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>>82769698

it could've been awkward with her still basking in the splendor of it finally happening, but no. her face turns hardened and the cap's like 'meh' and looks to his bros with a bored expression.

he clearly enjoyed kissing natasha more from winter soldier.
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>show Aunta Mae's tits
>show Wanda's tits
>show Scarjo's tits
>show blonde chicks tits
>show old black lady's tits
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Literally the only thing I wanted and didn't get was a happy ending for Bucky.

Instead he went back to being a popsicle.
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>>82770833
They need an excuse to stick him in Black Panther.
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>>82770833
Impossible. The writers hate happy Cap and Bucky.
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>Make the airport fight scene longer
>Show more fights between the different avengers
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>>82762671
>Only one at a time, at different times throughout the film
Too bad, famalam.
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>>82761292
>When Tony talks to Peter, have he reference that their was another hero the could have used. (Daredevil)
>Wanda talking to Cap on how much she misses her Brother.
>We actually see A better shot of Peters proto Suit.
>J.J Reference.
>More Scott.

That's about it.
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>>82770833
Could've been worse, at least he's relatively safe and will probably get unfrozen soon enough.
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>>82771707
Until someone tries to break him out in Black Panther.
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>>82761292
Only one thing, change Cap's outfit to his WS one, except keep the red-white color scheme
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>>82772574
Jesus, his Avengers outfit was terrible.
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>>82772574
What's the one between Stealth suit and AOU?
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>references to ultron
>extended airport fight scene
>more spidey
>hank pyn cameo
>post credits scene hinting were we see a MCU storm waiting for her husband when black panther and friends return to wakandá.
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>>82773221

the one he stole from the museum
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>>82773144
Honestly, I thought it was the best one.
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>>82773340

how
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>>82773144
I actually liked it when the movie first came out because I didn't see anything else other than Iron Man to compare it to. It's silly looking but cute, although yeah it looks terrible when the helmet's on.
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>>82761292
>Explicitly make Iron Man the villain instead of trying to sugarcoat what he actually is and has become
>Indirect references to ASM1 and ASM2 to suggest Spider-Man has faced a rouges gallery and Homecoming is a spiritual successor to those films just like Incredible Hulk is to the 2003 Hulk film
>The airport fight is actually destructive
>Vision actually doing cool shit
>Zeemo outright comes out as THE leader of Hydra and dawns his mask at the very end in a twist.
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>>82773367
It's because you just replied to Joss Whedon
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>>82773537
But his AoU costume was actually pretty good.
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>>82772574
first costume is best costume
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>>82773529
>>The airport fight is actually destructive

it wasn't?
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>>82761292
1. Crossbones lives
2. Scarlet Witch gets BTFO by somebody
3. War Machine dies
4. Peter Parker scene to be moved earlier in the movie
5. Cap to say the "No you move" line
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>>82772574
I actually really love the second costume.
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>>82773643
>4. Peter Parker scene to be moved earlier in the movie

How would you work that in? He went to get Peter specifically to help apprehend Cap.
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>>82773627
No, the airport was in tact throughout the entire thing except for some broken glass, some bullshit "save the people" garbage to probably save money on extras so it was empty, and there were no consequences in the fight itself.
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>the script
>the cinematography
>the score
>the direction
>the actors
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>>82761733
stop being a faggot
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>>82773529
>ASM1 and ASM2 to suggest Spider-Man has faced a rouges gallery and Homecoming is a spiritual successor to those films
As if Marvel wants to go near anywhere near those things. Also Spidey has only been Spidey for 6 months so he probably hasn't even encountered any villains from his rouge gallery yet. At this point he is fighting thugs and not villains with superpowers. He is still relatively new and unknown since the only thing people know about him are from videos on the internet.
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>>82773677
>Tony sees the YouTube videos
>I should go find this kid
>pays visit, tells the kid he has promise, give him upgraded suit and see what he can do
>because Tony is irresponsible that way
>when Cap goes rogue, Tony calls Peter
>'hey kid, believe it or not Iron Man needs your help. Wanna become an Avenger?" or something along those lines
>'oh btw we're going to Germany'
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>>82767306
nice
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>>82773757
Only edgy people really hated ASM even though they were MCU films done by another studio. I know Marvel says they have creative control over Homecoming but you can more or less guarantee Homecoming will be on par with ASM1 at the very least
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Change the name to Iron Man: Civil War because the entire thing felt like and Iron Man movie until its lasts 10 minutes.
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>>82773863
>Only edgy people really hated ASM
No... everyone hated ASM.
>they were MCU films done by another studio
If you read the leaked Sony emails you'll find that Kevin Feige had a lot to say about what went wrong in those movies.
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>>82773729
>No, the airport was in tact throughout the entire thing except for some broken glass

they desroyed a bunch of planes and cars though

>some bullshit "save the people" garbage

None of the people involved were psychopaths dude, they weren't about to blast any random passers by.

>no consequences in the fight itself.

Rhodes was crippled but I guess that doesn't count
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>>82773875
Maybe Cap didn't get enough screentime, but I was surprised how much Sam got to do in this film. Possibly even more than Winter Soldier.
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>>82773951
I was thankful for it. Sam was kicking ass. Everybody got to kick ass, except for Widow. Yeah, she stopped BP for a hot minute but that's it. Even War Machine got to punch Giant Man's lights out.
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>>82773729
>the airport was in tact throughout the entire thing
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>>82773875
>YFW Civil War is the best Iron Man movie.
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>>82761407
>UN
>taking control of anything

I'd have Kekked if they asked team Stark to wear blue hats as a 'sign of solidarity'
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>>82773943
>None of the people involved were psychopaths dude, they weren't about to blast any random passers by.
There weren't bystanders because they evacuated the airport beforehand since Tony knew it might come down to a fight.
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>>82774146
I can't get over Bucky's stupid-ass jiggle-run. That's probably why they needed to call in the stuntman even for a simple-ass back view shot.
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>>82761292
>not have Spidey be entirely CGI in practically all of his scenes besides the one with his mask half off.
That's it. I'm extremely happy with how the movie turned out otherwise.
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>>82774237
....yes, and it was evacuated because none of the people involved were psychopaths who were going to blast random bystanders.
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>>82774159
>this was RDJ's plan all along
inb4 muh saint rdj was just a victim forced by marvel to film Ironman: civil war
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>>82774281
Who's the pterodactyl?
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>>82773875
>>82774159
>>82774323

As a huge Capfag, i am fine with Iron Man getting so much screentime as it makes him the most well developed Marvel villain
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>>82762493
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>Mfw people though there should have been more destruction in the big battle.

First, even during that fight, they were trying to incapacitate each other not kill each other. Second, the whole reason this conflict exists at all is because of unchecked and unnecessary destruction and casualties. This isn't like certain other movies where they don't care about people and property.
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>>82774281
So much wrong with that picture.
Pterosaurs aren't dinosaurs, they're closely related but not actually a part of that group
Pterosaur wings don't work that way it should be an extended finger
Pterosaurs also had hair though not the same as mammalian hair

Though I'm with that guy on his plan.
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>>82763424
>2. Change Spidey's costume to be the same one from Amazing Spider-Man 2. Even if people hated that movie, it had the best Spider-Man costume.
I completely disagree. The Spider on his chest is too big and the webs on his costume feel like a fucking grid rather than something that forms around his body.

Spidey's Civil War costume is hand's down the best one, even with the unnecessary large black stripes.
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>>82774379
>it makes him the most well developed Marvel villain
my only problem here is marvel wont ever make him look like he's in the wrong
every time he fucks up he is shown to just happily walk away as the hero, or so does the studio want you to see him as regardless
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>>82761292
Spiderman should have been a loli.
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>>82761292
>change name to The Avengers: Civil War
>give Deadpool a cameo where he realizes he's walked into the wrong movie
>have Joss Whedon spiff up the dialogue, add more quips
>give a token reference to one of the TV shows
>make the death tolls from previous films higher, more realistic
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>>82761292
>war machine using machine guns
>more bruises and cuts on captains face
Thats all
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>Wanda has some kind of episode during the initial fight implying that reality has changed
>Have a J K Simmons / J Jonah Jameson broadcast of Spiderman on TV early in the movie
>Have Stark make more of Cap leaving coffee grounds in the disposal
>More of Vision's normal daily life
>Wanda makes some kind of reference to her father

Come on its only a matter of time now till X-Men is so badly damaged by the mishandling of it that they'll be forced to the negotiating table and we'll get some sort of Avengers vs X-Men
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Kill "Black Widow"
Kill "Black Widow"
Kill "Black Widow"
Resurrect quickslav
More Spidey
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>>82775380
Mainline "X-Men" movies are always profitable and, up until now, generally well-received. Plus "Deadpool" has assure Fox will keep on trucking with their mutant-related properties.

NEVER EVER will they revert.
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>>82761292
>spidey switches sides
>some one dies
>tony gets his shit pushed in
>a little more build up to the last fight
>more than 1 team face off
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>the director dies before movie is completed
>replacement director dies horribly before movie is completed.
>replacement replacement director dies horribly before movie is completed.
>replacement replacement replacement direct director dies even more horribly before movie is completed.
sorry, only got 4 changes.
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>>82769576
Dumb Star poster.

>wants Rhodey dead

No, everyone wants Rhodey dead before Don Cheadle actually keels over and dies. He looks like a prune.

>BP

BP was ridiculously powerful for having absolutely no setup in these movies and having his entire backstory brushed over as 'he inherited a warrior mantle.'

Shit, really? So do people in a lot of societies, there are many people in Japan who are heirs to houses of samurais, that doesn't MAKE THEM SAMURAIS. They don't have training. Black Panther should have either been weaker and less refined, or have been setup more extensively.

And Iron Falcon was a nonfactor in this movie, I forgot about him except for the scene where he and Bucky gawk at Cap and when Iron Man shoots him.
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>>82774343

Sauron.
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>>82773367

Cap doesn't need tons of straps or quilting. Brighter colors, etc.

The helmet looks awful but the helmet on every single one of them looks bad. They fucked up by not going with the original.
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>he should of put his seat up
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>>82773367
I don't know, you tell me.
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>>82776202
>those deadpan faces
Let Bucky out of that freezer ASAP so he and Falcon can get their spinoff movie together.
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>>82761733
Making Bucky as gay for Cap as all of us so we can have a self insert.
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>>82761292

>Tony recruits Spider-Man but doesn't know who he is

>No comically huge city names taking up the entire screen to signal scene/location changes

>During the airport fight, have Cap sense Spidey is just a kid fighting a cause he doesn't understand and either persuades him to go home or Spidey voluntarily switches sides after witnessing some level of brutality on Stark's side that he wasn't prepared for (like say, Vision nearly shoop da wooping Falcon)

>Higher stakes. Someone's gotta die. And have it be Tony's fault because he gets too caught up in his own goal (Rhodey actually dying from his injuries etc)

>More world-building. Mention that the Avengers are not the only heroes. Show, mention, or otherwise imply the existence of many other minor heroes and villains that are running rampant and giving the world pause about capes. Maybe even a line from Tony to Steve about "there's even reports of some idiot running around dressed like the devil beating the shit out of people." Hell, maybe even keep the Stamford incident and have THAT be the catalyst for the Accords. Sokovia got the fire lit, have Stamford be the (pardon the pun) explosion.
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>>82764708

Widow said something like "At least remember me" when Bucky was mind-wiped by Zemo.

Bucky/Tasha is such a great couple. If Marvel is smart they'll make it happen
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>>82762243
this scene naked. also Bucky aucking his dick after he grounds the helicopter.
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>>82776271
Sharon makes a better self-insert considering she's got barely any screentime to have a personality.
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>>82774641

autism
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>>82764708
didn't the Russo's just say that they have a history and hinted that it would be winterwidow
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>>82776500
As far as I know, no, though Falcon and Bucky's actors said they would like it to be.
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>>82761292
>more Spiderman, make him change sides
>another fight with the teams other than the airport fight
>Cap dies (he can come back in Infinity Wars)
>Bucky becomes new Cap
>Falcon becomes new Cap
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>>82773661
Bucky is a cute!
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>>82761292
Zemo as a serious Villain and not a sad revenge seeking Sokovian that the movie keeps forgetting is there.

Drop the whole Civil War aspect in general.

Quicksilver is alive. fuck you Whedon.

More Sam and Bucky shenanigans

Push Widow/Bucky. again fuck you Whedon.
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>>82776644
Was a cute, but Sebastian Stan got old and dumpy.
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>>82776603

This. Cap should have died and they should have had Strange bring his ass back right before everyone goes off to fight Thanos.
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>>82776326
Sharon is not gay for cap.
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>>82764094
didnt spiderman say he liked cap's idea though
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>>82776554
no they definitely did. Just looking for a link for you now.
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>>82776727
she's plain looking enough that you could pretend she's a mediocre trap
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>>82776691
>Strange bring his ass back right before everyone goes off to fight Thanos.
shit they could have even pulled that time travel bullet shit and that can tie the Time Stone to Strange.
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>>82776603
>Falcon and Bucky fight to become new Cap while Sharon laughs in the background
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>>82776677
Sebastian is still a cute. His face looked pudgey from buffing up for the movie but if you look at him in interviews and stuff now, as well as him in the Martian, he is a CUTE.
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>>82776677
>33 years-old
>old

You shouldn't be posting on 4chan you underage twink.
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>>82776778
yes Bucky is prettier than Sharon.
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>>82776832
His forehead is all big and wrinkly and he keeps wearing his hair in a really unflattering style that shows it off.
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>>82776727

Come on dude, everyone's a little gay for Cap.
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>>82776727
Even Wanda is gay for Cap.
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>>82776978

Y'know for someone who thinks he's all old and ugly, you sure do pay an awful lot of attention to his face and hair...
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>>82761506
pretty much that + cut down on the fast cuts during several of the fight scenes, namely the stairwell fight and the tony+widow vs bucky fight
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>>82777055
Huh? I'm not that obsessive hater who keeps coming into random threads just to hate on Bucky and call him ugly. I'm just saying the way he presents himself looks really bad compared to how he used to be.
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>>82776978
I agree his hairstyle is shit now but that can be fixed
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>Make spidey have a bit of empathy to Cap's side of the arguement
>Give black panther throwing daggers
>Have Zemo stab the frozen Winter Soldiers with a sword as an allusion of him being a good swordsman
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>Pietro comes back and no one questions it.

>Cap and the aAvengers actually try out a mission while under the Sokovia accords. To underscore their incompetence. Zemo fucks them over more

> more buddy comedy scenes with Falcon and Bucky

>Zemo purple balaclava
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>>82777354
>>Pietro comes back and no one questions it
they have the "life cradle" and a reworked extremis formula I'm actually questioning why is he NOT back?

I just want QuickSlav, man
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>>82777354
Just say Cho fixed him.
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>>82773941
>No... everyone hated ASM.

Everybody who is edgy, like you and /tv/.

>If you read the leaked Sony emails you'll find that Kevin Feige had a lot to say about what went wrong in those movies.

You dumbass, Feige was Sony's adviser for the ASM films. In fact, he wanted to remove the BEST part of the series which was the romance between Gwen and Peter, which considering the flaws the movie DID have, is fucking retarded to remove the thing it did the best.
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>>82777777
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Two sex scenes between Steve and Widow, one with Widow Steve and Wanda. One with Peggy's neice and one flashback between Peggy and Steve. That's what I would change.
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>>82777891
Just give three scenes with Peggy because hers would put everything else to shame.
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>>82761292
I only need one.

Cap dies in the end
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>>82777142
he has cock sucker lips
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>>82761292
>cut zemo
>more spidey
>have cap actually reply to ross that thor is in asgard
>longer airport scene
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I'm gonna take what I think is a dissenting opinion, and say I didn't like the revenge plot.

Specifically, how the entire plot ended up being Zemo's grief over dead family.

It has it's good parts, I'll admit: Him being a simple villian with a personal desire, who manages to do what other villians with robot armies failed to do.

But, much like in Spectre, having the main villian behind the world-changing plot talk about his personal issues shrinks the action down from "global" to "interpersonal"- and that's not a change I generally enjoy.

So I'd keep the parts about the new winter soldier team, make it so that the problems with Bucky keep compounding (Aide and abet a terrorist leads to fighting near civilians and property damage, leads to...) so that there's a reason the team can't come together at the end.

Keep the split team and have a new enemy to explore in the coming movies.
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>>82761720
"we still friends?"
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>>82761292
1. No giant subtitles splashed across the screen
2. Less shakycam
3. Less close ups during fights

That's it.
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>>82778495
It's a little maudlin, yeah. But I was OK with it because it built off the momentum of Tony and Cap's own actions, with minimal goading from Z:3mo.
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>>82766606
>3. have falcon retconned into a telepathic falcon with hilarious one liners and quips
you want him to be Tobias from the Animorphs?
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>>82777949
I just wanted four to build up to the greatest scene. It would obviously be the only one you'd ever need to see. Hayley Atwell's sweaty body would close down the porn industry in 5 undulating minutes because everything else would be so fucking disappointing by comparison.
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>>82776202
Even among his allies Bucky suffers
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>>82779006
>Bucky looks like a Cro Magnon
kek, they got that part right
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>>82761554

Shit critique, senpai
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>>82761292
The only thing I'd change is making sure there's a scene that implies that Zemo is physically formidable despite his humble appearance. A reference to swordsmanship, or he blocks a flying punch from Falcon while escaping from the Winter Soldier breakout or something.

I'd prefer the transition to full Baron Zemo to be foreshadowed more heavily, as it is now Civil War has done little to imply that Zemo is the kind of guy that could go toe-to-toe with Steve Rogers and hold his own in a fight, even for just a little while.
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>>82761292
>Give Zemo his sword and outfit in the pictures we see of his past.
>Have someone at least mention the fact that Hydra may or may not have sway over the UN
>Have someone mention the whole "Inhumans/enhanced must register" thing.
>Have someone point out Ross is full of shit about the whole "accepting responsibility" thing. Fucker's the one responsible for Hulk and Blonsky and he got a promotion.
>Have Fury show up to some capacity.
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>>82778355

You say that like that's a bad thing anon
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>>82779139
Give him a beard in his next appearance. It emphasizes his :3
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>>82778495

I didn't like it. I'm not opposed to the idea of having both the revenge plot AND the registration act together in the same movie, but only if they could coherently be worked in together and I just don't think that was the case here. It should have been one or the other (although granted, it simply wouldn't have been Civil War if the latter wasn't present).
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>>82764846
Not to mention he's still new to the job. It's understandable that his A game isn't coming out, especially in such an intense fight against other heroes, instead of villains.
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>>82762359

Picture it. You're 15 years old and living in the Marvel universe. Crazy shit happens every day and it's only getting crazier. Then you yourself get superpowers and only 6 months into your burgeoning superhero career when one of your favorite heroes comes to your house and asks you to come and help him fight other superheroes.

Can you truthfully say you wouldn't spill even a little spaghetti once you got there?
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>>82779458
The only joke I didn't find very funny was the "you have the right to remain silent" one, aside from that he wasn't great but it was understandable.
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>>82779341
What about what I said made you think I was saying as if it were a bad thing? Cock sucker lips are a blessing from God.
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>>82761292
Explain a bit better how Tony figured out Peter was Spiderman.
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>>82782186
Not sure if want to comply.
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Spider-Man makes the suit he has during the airport fight.

Remove the shit about the goggles/special eye pieces being necessary to tone down his spider sense to a functional level. Let them just exist for the sake of being cool.

Have Ross quickly mention the Inhuman situation, and better explain how the Accords will effect Enhanced individuals that aren't affiliated with The Avengers.

Crossbones surviving. Keep the suicide bomber thing but just have it be one of his lackeys, and either have Crossbones get captured or escape during the confusion.

Show some of the other criminals being kept on The Raft. It could serve as both a cool easter egg if they used recognizable supervillains, as well as show just how much Cap's team doesn't belong there.
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>>82779166
>>Have someone mention the whole "Inhumans/enhanced must register" thing.
Markus and McFeely aren't working with the knowledge of Agents of SHIELD. Markus says he hasn't watched most of Season 3, and I'm not sure if McFeely even watches it.
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>>82782305
Even with the scruff he has a nice looking mouth.
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>>82782305
ready to comply
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>>82782305
SPIRAL STAIRCASE
RHINOCEROS BEETLE
A GHOST TOWN
A PEAR TART
RHINOCEROS BEETLE
VIA DOLOROSA
RHINOCEROS BEETLE
SINGULARITY POINT
GIOTTO
ANGEL
HYDRANGEA
RHINOCEROS BEETLE
SINGULARITY POINT
SECRET EMPEROR
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>>82782779
Does this fanfic exist yet?
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1. More Spiderman
2. War machine turns into Chocolate pudding when he crashes
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>>82782956
>he doesn't realize it's a whole genre of itself
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>>82783091
I meant specifically Zemo and his magic book of Bucky tricks, not regular HTP.
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>>82761292
1. More kino
2. Instead of the problem being "muh damage" make it so that characters don't trust each other to NOT become corrupted under certain circumstances.
3. Less quips.
4. Make tony a villain instead of a sorry excuse for a villain.
5. More kino
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>>82782930

Kill John Lennon!
Kill John Lennon!
Kill John Lennon!
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>>82783281
Bucky confirmed for doing 9/11
MISTAKES INTO MIRACLES
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Take away/lessem that horrible filter or CGI they put in during the hand to hand fight scenes. I know it's there to make it look like they're moving very fast but the amount the use it is awful.

Take away most the quips during fight scenes.

Have Tony rip apart Steve's letter and throw the phone .

And that's all I think really needs changing.
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>Raise the casualties numbers
>Mention Daredevil when Stark goes to Queens
>Mention Thor and Hulk are in ASSgard
>Have a scene where Zemo is looking and holding some fancy sword or some hint that he's good at using one
>make Starks armor not look weak as shit and get rid of those black lines on Spidey and give Hawkguy his mask
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>>82766810
>don't bust the heroes out of the Raft, that shit should've been saved for Ant-Man and the Wasp
Seriously, Scott had a look on his face as a guard walked by that made me think he was going to stage a breakout. I don't know if I would spend a movie on it though.
Marvel needs to utilize the One-Shot engine more. Maybe have two kinds of One Shot. The world building ones we have now and then Avengers One Shots where we follow an Avenger or two on a mission or dicking around somehow.
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>>82783609
is banner in asgard?
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>>82761292
>War Machine actually dies
>Tony actually does something to Vision instead of "I didn't think that could happen"
>Bucky tanks Black Panther
>Cap receives far greater wounds during the final fight but stays even with Tony all the way through, further showing if he were at full steam and actually trying to kill, he could do it no problem
>Better Spider-Man in general

That said, I fucking loved this movie. While I would love to see these changes, I'm also not a writer. The Russos haven't failed us yet, so I'll trust their judgement on these points.
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>>82783687
From what they said they don't plan to bring it back, though they might do web clips or something like that in its place.
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>>82782305
We never did find out what was up with that Telltale Backpack did we.
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>>82783845
It was clearly just a getaway bag of shit he needed to take with him on the run.
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>>82761292
"People have agendas."
"Are you saying you don't? Sign the fucking paper Steve."

Maybe take into account your kgb agent friend has been on a bombing spree, and also murdered Iron Man's parents and maybe consider talking to Tony about it before you betray him like a fucking commie.

Have Avengers actually die. Looking at you Ant-man, War Machine.
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>more Wanda and vision
>less war machine, he's a joke, I actually smiled when he and falcon were talking about the accords because none of these three things matter though falcon is cool
>Sharon carter is so stupid
>maybe a little more hawkeye and spider
>most importantly, fix the 3D in the first half. Maybe I was just adjusting to it but it felt like a bunch of frames were missing/camera was shaking too hard
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>>82783845
Bag of memories according to the actor. Went from funny detail to kinda sad really.
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>>82783703
Yeah, I'm mainly going off of the fact that Hulk is said to be in Ragnarok
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>>82761292
Crossbones lives.
Vision kills Falcon.

Can't think of anything else.
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>>82775728
this
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>>82782305
Looks like a young Michael Biehn.
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>>82762071
>5. Peter being somewhat suspicious of Tony's motives after the fight. He's a kid that loves Stark, so I'm cool with what they did, but I dunno... Peter switching sides is such a huge thing in the comic story, which admittedly isn't a very good story, that I was hoping to see that.

Considering that Tony kinda black-mailed him into fighting, and based on the conversation he has with Cap, wasn't even fully told what they were fighting about, I kinda wish they did something with that.
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>>82782956
Just search 'Hydra trash party' on ao3, my friend.
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>>82783845
yeah according to seb stan it's I'll of his journals with all the memories and shit he's been able to peice together. it's his most prized possession. that's why he's gotta strap it in the front and be CUTE.
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1) RDJ doesn't push for a bigger role in the movie and the Russo's get to make a film resolving Steve and Bucky's character arcs.

I don't need the other 4
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>>82784497
According to the Russos they see TWS -> CW -> IW1/2 as the proper Cap trilogy over TFA -> TWS -> CW.
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>>82784390
>tfw Solid Snake is my vidya husbando
He's this close to spot on casting, now if only Stan didn't have that overly high pitched voice of his.
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>>82763424
pretty much this
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>>82784419
There's a disappointing lack of Zemo trash fic.
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>>82761292
1. More Spiderman
2. More Antman
3. Stark gets even angrier at the end
4. T'Challa acts less stupid, and wrecks more shit
5. Zemo has some purple on him
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>>82784698
Sebastian Stanomachines
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>>82776279
The problem with explicitly bringing in the shows is that normies will think come IW, "where's Daredevil?"
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>>82783147
idk, but I need it bad.
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>>82784497
This
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>>82774641
im pretty sure this was one of spidys first comics it was a long time ago easy mistake to make back then
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>>82761559
>Make it look like a movie and not like a tv show

Stop parroting this, they haven't used the same director of cinematography since fucking Avengers 1.
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>>82784558
I hope Bucky gets something cool to do in Black Panther. The plot just keeps shitting on him all the time. Poor guy needs some reprieve.
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1. Include Vision and War Machine as part of the fight with Crossbones' group at the beginning. I like the Avengers just being an established presence in the past couple movies, so it'd be nice to have the full team as the status quo before it gets broken.

2. Don't kill Crossbones, have a bomb or something cause the same damage and let him escape so it's still the "fault" of the Avengers.

3. Adjust or trim some of the dialogue from the woman that confronts Stark about her dead son. Not a dealbreaker but it felt very rehearsed and unnatural, took me out of the scene a bit.

4. Establish "copycat" vigilantes have become common when the Accords come up, mainly to introduce Spider-Man more smoothly, and acknowledge that guys like Daredevil probably exist. No need to even get specific in that case, if they really want to tiptoe around TV material.

5. Make Peter's exit from the movie less of a sharp stop. Nothing big, maybe just show him at home in an end montage instead of having the post-credits scene.
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>>82766477
>Ant-Man actually uses ants at some point
Oh shit, I fucking forgot about that. Fucking Christ, imagine how much even better the movie would of have been with that shit?
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>>82761292

1) Find some way to keep Crossbones around for Thunderbolts
2) Pains me to say it, but cut out Spidey except for a cameo and spend that time exploring Black Panther more.
3) Beef up the Airport scene with more wombo-combos and a clearer objective for each team to face.
4) Find some way to directly intertwine Bucky with the Accords. It should be a Bucky/Cap film first, Civil War film second, instead of the other way around.
5) Steve gets a Nomad-esque costume at the very, very end.
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1 Vision comes out as pansexual
2 Black Panther tries to fit in with the other black guys by using rap speak and 'nigga'. Until a painfully awkward scene where Don Cheadle has to explain that most black guys in the states dont really talk that way.
3 Scarlett Johansson is cast as Scarlet Witch. Because Duuuhhhh!
4 None of the Avengers fight each other. They just lock Spiderman and Antman in a cage match to the death for a proxy fight.
5 Falcon decides to become his namesake. He moves to the wilds of the rocky mountains and spends his days soaring in the sky, hunting for fish and rabbits.
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>More Spidey
>Rather than Tony magically tracking down Peter's identity, have him do something like stealth spy on Peter, and confront him in an alley as Iron Man, have some small introduction between the two and then move to his room
>A scene where Falcon, Cap and Bucky arrive at Pym's house to recruit Scott
>Maybe some call outs to Daredevil, X-Men, Deadpool and the Fantastic Four
>Have some moment during the airport scene where Spidey starts to second guess what hes doing, not him wanting to switch sides, but thinking that it's not right all these heroes are brawling with each other

I would also suggest Cap taking a snippet from the speech he heard at the funeral, not the whole thing, maybe just the end of it, but that would have been neat, but not necessarily a need to change.
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>>82785972
These.
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>>82785972
The issue of having more Avengers in the Crossbones scene is it would make it easier for the Avengers to take down Crossbones and hi thugs, especially if you're bringing War Machine and Vision, and if the rest of the scene goes similarly, you'd have Vision and War Machine there to back Cap and Scarlet's actions up, since they realize it was an accident, and they wouldn't go so hard against them for the Accords situation
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>>82770884
>They need an excuse to stick him in Black Panther.
>stick him
>in Black Panther.
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>>82761292
make the blue bits of Spider-Man's suit black
cut out the Steve/Carter kiss

that's it
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>>82773529
Absolute worst list I've seen so far. Literal shit taste confirmed. It reads like a 12 year old's wet dream in the worst possible sense.
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>>82770833
He did get a happy ending. His name is cleared, I mean as far as the bombing goes. He's finally regained all his memories and him and Cap are best buddies once again, and he's in probably the safest place in the world, being kept protected and asleep until he can be fixed. What with the coming of Doctor Strange, theres a good chance they will already have a way to fix Bucky's head.

It's a shame the X-Men can't show up in Marvel U, or Cap could have taken Bucky to Xavier
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> War machine dies
>We get ascene of Cpt preparing to infiltrate the prison instead of infiltrating it

Nothing else in particular.

More importantly I'd go back to Age of Ultron and give Zemo like 5 seconds of screen time, like 1 shoot. Not even mention his name, just imply he is looking for his family or smth.

Or have a shoot of him looking at debree falling from the sky island. 4-5 seconds tops.

I wish the MCU had the foresight to include that scene.
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>>82786546
AOU was made even before CW was announced. Even Whedon confirmed that it was purely coincidental that he even managed to put tension between Steve and Tony especially when he didn't know that Marvel was actually going to do CW afterwards.
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>>82786448
Now that you mention it, somehow I didn't make the connection that the two biggest Team Stark supporters were the ones absent. I guess that is sort of necessary for the narrative, then.

Shame, I still really liked the idea of the Avengers just existing as an established group, one of the few things I thought really worked in AoU too. After the first Avengers movie I was worried we'd have to see the team get rounded up every single time.
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>>82786576
I like the idea to, I think it could have made it better if they had a small dialogue about the other team members being on some other job, which would explain why Cap didn't bring along the power houses of the Avengers
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>>82761292

1. Without Spidey, the movie loses about 40% of its humor, turning it pretty dispirited as a whole, but fuck, he just doesn't fit in and creates problems. Maybe he'd work better if his own movie had come out first. Use his time to flesh out the other characters and use Ant-Man as the jokester instead.

2. Wanda is actually wounded in the airport fight. Vision shoots down both Rhodey and Falcon in an indiscriminate fit of anger.

3. Pursuing Cap and Bucky, Black Panther ends up injuring Black Widow. Regret has him begin to question his quest for revenge, so his decision to spare Zemo in the end will seem less whimsical.

I think these would make it about as good as it gets for me. If I really had to change something else, maybe

4. Crossbones manages to escape in the beginning, SW only catches the grenade, so there's the added frustration of blowing up civilians without even getting the villain, adding up to the accords pressure.
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>>82786644
>which would explain why Cap didn't bring along the power houses of the Avengers

From the beginning, where Cap asks Wanda all that stuff, I got the impression it was a mission to train the younger members of the group, so not bringing in OP powers like Vision, who could solo the whole thing makes sense. It just turned out the stakes were bigger than they thought.
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>>82778498
HAWKEYE OF ALL PEOPLE QUIPPING????????

THE OUTRAGE
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>>82786163

>Ant-Man calls ants
>the heroes assemble for the face-off
>silence
>somebody asks, "Did I just step on something?"
>"Ant-thony juniooooor!"
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>>82761292
>actual fucking security around the signing
Like seriously, that pissed me off just how light the security was. I mean, come the fuck on, having most of the world learders AND unarmed Avengers just reeks with shit going down. I was surprised Tony didn't put any robot drones around the perimeter beforehand.
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>>82776832

Seriously, I rewatched TWS yesterday, and towards the end, all I could think about was how cute he was. Fuck this fucking marvel shit turning me gay
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>>82786831
I think Tony's out of the robot drone business for a while.
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>>82783946
I have an idea, how about stop making 3D movies.
It's a gimmick and it's always been garbage.
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>>82786831
It's not like any guard could stop them.
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>>82764394
>less Black Panther and weaken him (he was retardedly powerful)
This. He was so stupidly strong and was basically indestructible in his suit.
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>>82761292
five things?
replace five actors with chia pets
itd be a great comedy
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1. Dont kill Crossbones because seriously hes 1 of 2 villains to actually get a proper setup and you kill him in the 1st 10 mins as a fucking plot device?
2. Wanda referencing Quicksilver, all we got was her being upset about being grounded and her weird relationship with Vision.
3. Not so much pertaining to this movie but set up Zemo in AOU.
4. Completely remove the sharon carter love plot, its shitty filler and its just another worthless Jane Foster character
5. Kill War Machine, add some fucking stakes to this and really drive home Tonys madness and lust for vengeance at the end.
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>>82787010
Thats kind of Black Panther's whole deal. He's empowered by the spirit of the Panther Goddess, giving him enhanced abilities on par with Cap and Bucky, and Wakanda is the only place with Vibranium, so a suit made pretty much entirely out of Vibranium makes sense.
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>Less Cap
>Make Cap weaker, the dude seriously shouldn't be strong enough to hold a fucking helicopter still while it's flying, He's only superhuman, not, a fucking god.
>More Panther, replace actor with a dude who has a deeper voice
>More Vision x Wanda flirting, dat shit was cute
>Include Hulk and Thor. I get they were left out because they're so obviously overpowered for the movie but they could have at least included cameos instead of little quips that reference them without actual reasons for them not being there.
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>>82787080
>strong enough to hold a fucking helicopter still while it's flying

What do you think helicopters are? Satan's embodiments? That's pretty low-tier in Marvel universe.
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>>82787080
>less Cap in a Captain America Movie
>more quips
Joss is that you?
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>>82787080
t. Joss Whedon

Though I agree we need more Vision x Wanda.
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>>82786962
Fucking bullshit Tony didn't have somewhere around some sort of robots like the one Falcon has at the beginning of the movie that could of patrolled the area or were hand-controlled by him and have that same x-ray/analysing vision likr Falcon's robot.
>>82786984
Exactly, which is why I was wondering why none of the other Avengers that were around(besides Steve and Falcon and Widow) were there to watch the perimeter. Actually, where the fuck was Stank during that shit?
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>>82787056
I don't know man, this scene was worth it. But I do agree it wasn't really necessary for that romance. Also, I am sure Stark would of have been more mad at Vision and even ask him what the shitty hell he was doing shooting a deadly ray at anyone.
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>>82787425
They've probably finally figured out the mind gem is too powerful for Vision to control properly, he had suspected as much before.
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>>82761292
>Stick with the original story of a bunch of kids/newbies using their powers with reckless abandon and accidentally getting civilians killed
Why was this so fucking hard to do? There's fucking spiderman and antman. You could easily set them up as newbies or even misguided heroes.

That accord thing didnt make sense to me.
>so you're saving the world but you have to sign this paper so you would be doing it the way we tell you to
>"fuck you, I'm taking a vacation. Lets see how you handle the next time ultron shows up"
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>>82787425
I was expecting Steve to look back and the two of them giving him the "We aint time for this, bro" look, but I was pleasantly surprised to see them being total bros.
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>>82787425
>can you move your seat up
>no
>bucky moves over
You see Joss you can do quirky comedy without fucking quips every 2 seconds
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>>82787581
I really liked that bit, it was both funny, due to how Bucky had no comedy up to that point, but pulled it off so well, and also to see that Sam and Bucky are not friends, and the only reason Sam is actually helping him is because of Steve.
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>>82762645
please put this guy in charge of the movies
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>>82762645
I like that Silver Sable and Mysterio foreshadow ideas, but it might get a bit too...hashed out, foreshadowed, over stuffed? I like setting up other characters, but if you put too many in the movie it kind of makes you wonder if they lost focus and just wanted to cram in cameos.
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>>82761292
Bigger role for Sharon.

Peter switching sides wouldn't have the same impact since the role is too small, and I wouldn't downplay based Panther for his sake, but have Peter at least hear Cap's side out. I know he was poor and all but he felt like a tool.

Explain why Scott is there.

Have Wasp help break them out at the end.
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>>82779139
To be fair they referenced him in the armor as a special death squad soldier. That's enough of the reference you were looking for. If anything they made him as smart and obsessed as his comics counterpart with one of the major differences is that he's way more emo.
>>
>>82776209
>>82776154
You're right. They did fuck up. That looks very good. I really dig the helmets but that looks really good.

Man, fuck Joss Whedon.
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>>82786289
>Steve gets a Nomad-esque costume at the very, very end.

Only if it has the deep-cut v-neck
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>>82783467
>Have Tony rip apart Steve's letter and throw the phone
This
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>>82783467
>>82789419
But that wouldn't make sense. Several days passed since the end fight, Tony was able to cool his head and realize just how much the whole situation has not only cost him, but everyone around him. Having him tear up Steve's letter and throw away the phone would ruin Tony, because it would make him pointlessly antagonistic, and it would make it so the next Avenger's gathering, they would have to spend time revolving Tony and Steve's relationship and making it reasonable for them to work together again after Civil War.
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>>82761415
Take out 4 and add in a foot tickle torture scene involving Wanda and you've got yourself a deal
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>>82789783
They cut it in some countries, but the torture scene is in the movie.
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>>82761292
1. Keep the Battle of New York death toll the same as it was in Daredevil

2. Vision wears that stupid jumper all the time
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>>82789783
> Tickled Wanda is cutest Wanda.
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>>82789947
>starts laughing uncontrolably
>accidentally blasts you into a wall
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>>82787425
Bucky debated suicide during this scene
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>>82789783
>tickle torture
I've seen tickling wanda mentioned in another avengers thread before.

I'm genuinely impressed by the existence of another ticklefag in here.

I feel so alone most of the time.
>>
As the huge Iron Man faggot that I am, I'm just happy to see capfags getting salty about the extended focus the movie had on him. Would change nothing.
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>>82790196
Don't feel alone, anon. There are dozens of us! Dozens!
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>>82789831
Fucking American censorship REEEE
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>>82790409
But our threads on /d/ died after the /d/-/aco/ split. :'(

Well, they were shit already with idiots bashing hetero as faggy.
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>>82764990
>Cap says "Now, we are in Lagos"
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>>82761437
Scott mentions that Hank told him to never trust a Stark, when he's held in the Raft.
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>>82785598
it's Spider-Man and the X-Men. Pretty new, pretty fun miniseries. Peter Parker gets to be a teacher because of dead Wolverine.
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>>82761292

More tits.
Everyone has tits.
You have tits.
No one wears a shirt.

There. Did it in four.
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>>82787425
>You go Cap, get that niece of your very recently dead ex-girlfriend
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>>82790450
Anon, pls tell me you know about /tk/ on 8 chan.. It's a board dedicated to tickling.
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>>82789831
source please my amigo
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>>82792129
Just go watch Civil War in another country anon.
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>>82792129
aj applegate
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>>82792781
Hogtied, specifically.
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>>82792894
And it looks like she's in a lot of pain.
Poor girl.
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>>82788368
And is made of skin-tight spandex.
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>>82762634
Actually i find it pretty odd that nobody mentions the red skull,we all know he didn't die. He's still out there in one of the gyms...
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>>82761950
Ross did not create Abomination. He gave Blonksy super serum, and Blonsky abused it.
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>More Spider-Man

>Better post-credits scene

>More Black Panther

>More Ant-Man

>Crossbones killing Capt. America like how it was in the comic (most important)
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>>82793807
he's still to blame for giving an unstable soldier super serum.
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>>82786564

Yea, filming for AoU wrapped months before RDJ was signed on to cap 3. Can't really hold wheddon to set up civil war when he didnt know he had to.
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>>82786362
Beautiful
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>>82786362
>3 Scarlett Johansson is cast as Scarlet Witch. Because Duuuhhhh!
No, fuck you, I want my qt Wanda to stay as is.
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>>82777004
Wait is this canon?
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>>82761292

Bruce Banner makes an appearance, Tony Stank gets told by Thor, Spiderman questions whether it's really the right thing to do to beat up CAPTAIN AMERICA, Black Widow gets fucked by Black Panther, Bucky has a longer sot of him lusting at Steve's muscles during that helicopter scene.
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>>82772574

>that middle costume

JUST
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