How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #267

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

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Reposting yesterday's page in case anyone missed it! What do you guys think?

>>82587120
Psst - this should be #269, the last thread was #268.

I have a question for the guys in this thread. How do you act when you fall in love with a girl but you can't say anything about it? I'm wondering if it's any different from a girl's actions/thoughts when this happens. So basically what's it like to be a guy who's friend zoned?

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postin' current progress. Gotta fiddle around with the third panel colours to properly suggest depth

>>82586964
well it helps that i always wear really soft soft pants. and i dont give any fucks if i'm sporting wood. though i'm getting to the age where i don't get random erections anymore and the ones i get don't last long

this is a fun conversation

>>82587228
interested to see what her problem is
>>82587286
if it absolutely CAN'T be, then i rationalize that it isn't supposed to be, and stop wanting it. if it can be but it's gonna be hard, i just.. act nice, hope she shows some interest

>>82587365
I really like the variety in shades of green you went with for the foliage.

>>82587382
>I don't give any fucks
You sound like you have a sloppy personality, I probably wouldn't like you in real life
>>82587407
Well you do you feel while trying to remain friends with her and not letting your feelings show though?

>>82587764
if you feel like peopls should feel bad about their functions, then yeah we probably wouldn't get along

>>82587764
Not a conflict, the way I be friends with someone is the way I show my feelings, whatever they are. Nice is just nice.
That's not a very good comic story though. I would suggest you show a lot of angst and awkwardness in their thought bubbles. Maybe even go the Sakura route and draw their inner self

>>82587286
im not a cuck and have my own way of seducing girls so I never get friendzoned. I act indifferent towards her and prioritize talking to her friends than her, but if I notice her slipping away, I just pop in bullshit tricks. Girls looooove love loooooove talking about themselves. Just pop in some fun facts about themselves using some bullshit quiz game or say things like "you're really nice deep down arent you? you were just misunderstood" depending on the girl, and you'll got their attention although this is just for an opener. You'll have to do much more. You shouldn't say you want her or appear like one because if you do that, they know they're in control. So you see? I'm not telling her that I want her, but I'm going undetected and winning her friends' liking first. Girls also love following trends and what many people think so if you're popular to her friends, that's a bonus.

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>>82587903

>>82587930
lel its true tho

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Finished Pimp n' Hoot! AKA that little mini-comic from a thread or two ago.

https://tapastic.com/episode/347963
http://petarvee.tumblr.com/post/144053525291/pimp-n-hoot-its-been-a-while-since-i-wrote-my
http://imgur.com/a/zkylk

Pick your mirror and give it a look-see.

>>82587860
Oh that's not the story at all, it's just a side conflict.
>>82587832
wepl at least we can come to an agreement

>>82587994
Very nice!

>>82587994
this is actually good enough that i'm adding it directly to my finished comics folder

>>82587903
He can't say anything because he doesn't know how too, and even if he did he couldn't because of circumstances. So using your tactics wouldn't exactly work.

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still at it

>>82587286
Well, I have a sample size of one, but here's my experience.
I like a girl; Girl is dating one of my best friends, so there's no way in hell I'm gonna be making a move.
So, I just stay friendly. This isn't particularly hard. Aside from her being incredibly pretty, we have a lot of interests in common. We're artists, we love fantasy and comics, and I just focus on those when we're together and try to surreptitiously leave the room when she and my friend are making out when the friend group is hanging out.
Eventually, after a few years she and my friend break up, and after a few months of pussying about I work up the nerve to tell her when I'm driving her home one night after having spent the day hanging out. And after breaking down into nervous laughter because she wasn't paying attention and didn't hear my heartfelt confession the first time, I get across to her that I'd had a crush on her since the day we met and she tells me she can't see me like that because we're such good friends.
And that was that. We stayed friends for a few more years, but we eventually grew apart. I don't know if she changed, or if I changed, or if she just didn't want me around knowing how I felt, but now I haven't spoken to her in a few years. Think she might have went overseas and become a tattoo artist.

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New page! Haven't done one of these "backstory" pages in a while; if the seals look a bit awkward in panel 3 it because that's their "mid-transformation" stage.
It's wierd how fast these pages seem to fly by once I got through Chapter 2; I know I'm still producng 1/week, but I feel I've just started this chapter and I'm already 1/3rd of the way through

>>82587365
That is HELLA impressive; very nice cloring

>>82587994
Excelent. It's always fun to see what an artist you like comes up with when they're also in charge of writing. Is it hard to juggle two comics at the same time?

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Moving onto next page now

>>82588589
That's kind of sad anon ;_; thanks for sharing

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>>82587286
I'm a bisexual and I have crushes all the time. I've probably fallen for every friend I have, but I've never been put in the friend zone.. I put myself there just to save everybody the trouble. And I'm totally fine with it. I love my friends and what matters to me is that I can spend time with them. That's all I need.

Anyway, if you can't say about it, then just don't. Say it a gorillion years later, when you don't have the feelings anymore, but not when you're full-on ''in love'', because that'll just scare away your friend. If you want to keep the friendship, just zip it at the time and don't try any moves.

I once fucked my best friend, who's a guy and straight, on a vacation we had together and that was a mistake. We got over it pretty quickly, but he doesn't trust me as much as he used to. Maybe he's afraid that I still want him or something, even though I don't, and that's something you don't want in your friendship.

>>82588788
Is your buffer really ~10 pages? That's pretty impressive.

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>>82578574
have them in boxers rather than panties and you'll be fine

alternatively, have the shirt baggy enough to cover their crotch area

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>>82588045
>>82588056
Thanks!
>>82588788
Oh yeah, while me and my usual writer have crazy synergy, there's some stuff he'll never wanna write and I'll never wanna draw. So it's pretty freeing to just shit out goofy self-indulgent comics. As for running two comics at once: Nah. The one-shots are basically 'whenever I have the time' with no solid update schedule. So there's no pressure there.

The next one-shot'll be me practicing my chiarascuro while trying to copy that PS1/PS2-era mascot games (like Spyro, Crash, etc). Pic related, it might be the two main characters for it.

>>82588915
Thanks scrublord, I knew I could count on you

>>82588788
So, there's more to their romance than the classical "stole your clothes so now you're my waifu".
That's nice to see.
Kind of strange how the seals got up that high in the fourth panel, it doesn't look like there's a cliff that tall around.

>>82588589
rekt. at least your friend got some action

>>82588788
ahh i assume she's remembering these guys to compare them to the current guys

>>82588911
I try to keep buffer large enough that I wont need to have a hiatus mid-chapter. I usually have a 1-2 week hiatus between chapters; but at least I try to get the pacing of each individual chapter uninterrupted

>>82588930
Nice; I'm personally can't imagine drawing for someone else UNLESS the writer is also into folklore or history because those are the things I really enjoy drawing. Mainly because I've already got so little time for this hobby I tried to fit as many mythological creatures and historical armor/weapons/dresses as I could in a single story.

>>82589142
Yeah, it was *supposed* to be the rocks in Panel 1; but I had a lot of trouble framing it in such a way that you could see the Selkies, and the kid running towards the house being built.

I *TRIED* giving them a bittersweet romance because the "I stole your clothes, now you can't go back home" tale you get with Selkies or Merrows just felt too damn grim for the generally more lighthearted tone of the comic. I think I did a believable love story, but it's also the first time I've tried writing anything CLOSE to romance and I'm half-autistic when it comes to that stuff so let's hope for the best

>>82589649
Pretty sure that's the current guy, just younger.

>>82588788
Link to the comic?

>>82589960
http://greenknightcomic.com/

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Trying to start a series. Not my first time, but my older attempts were hideous and rushed by a deadline from some online comic group I joined.

>>82590220
What's it gonna be about?

>>82590215
Her bare legs don't contrast well against the white background. Try making the circle bigger.

>>82590314
Could you fuckin talk about anything you liked about it please?

Goddamn this thing you're doing just isn't how crits work in schools.

>>82590699
There's nothing I like about it.

>>82588930
i love all of the writing in this picture.

>>82590215
why does the dress have clear lacing but no split?

>>82590961
Because despite having a solid artistic base, Scribblehatch is too stupid/lazy to do research to make anything look right.

>>82590699
I've seen you say stuff like this, and it makes me question what kind of school you went to - these kinds of comments are really common in a crit. Crits aren't given in a compliment sandwich format - they can be all negative, all positive, or preferably a mix of the two. In any case, nothing that Anon said would be out of place were this an academic critique irl...

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Here's a WIP of the next page!

>>82591169
I haven't said anything since my original post. That anon is shitstirring.

>>82591297
I don't mean you as in Scribblehatch, I mean you as in that Anon who has complained before about people not critiquing the way they "do in school."

>>82591345
So you're claiming to know which anon is which..?

>>82591297
Can you actually post productively instead of these retarded posts like >>82590215 where it's just a picture, with no words to provide context, that, because you didn't provide context, cannot be called webcomic-related, and belongs in a Batman thread?

>>82587286
Only happened once to me and I acted a damn fool. Usually I've been the one doing the friend zoning.

>>82591484
Previous thread: >>82540611

>>82589777
wait now i'm really confused. that's not the cute rambunctious girl in the present day in the comic? it's a flashback to beardfellow as a kid when he stole the skin? okay.
i'm sure this will all make sense with woids.

>>82591169
you cannot actually have fallen for that

>>82591277
heh, Angel picking up Sarah's accent for one panel..
hygiene*

and then just to nitpick, the phrase is CALLING the shots, not making them. and it sounds like you're describing a morale officer, not human resources.

>>82591643
What was that, tiny?

>>82591345
That was him. that's why that guy posted that. He's not letting scribs live it down.
I for one think people should be forgiven for losing their shit once in a while. Remembering it forever discourages them from improving

>>82591277
Your art is quite bad.

Are you taking measures to improve it?

>>82591806
>implying Scribblehatch will improve if we're nice to him
>implying he won't just blow his stack again when he gets constructive criticism
He's a lost cause, in the same category as Bones and Dewd.

>>82591771
Ah crap, I didn't mean to gibe her the accent whoops!

Anyways yeah, I didn't think about a morale officer. I know just as much as annabeth.

>>82591387
You kinda start to tell who is who with some accuracy. Like that person who hates prudes/censorship and that peraon who wants to fuck the bugs from Bugquest.

Anyways you derail nearly every thread you post in and just make it worse with snarky replies like these.

>>82591871
No anon.

You derail every thread.

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>>82591871

>>82591945
Or until you snap at people talking to him.

>>82591848
He's been drawing the exact same way for at least the past two years.

>>82591899
Honestly, fair assumption, but this is the first time I've replied to a post related to/by Scribblehatch in about five months. Yes, I see the irony.

>>82587280
My bad! I also forgot to remove an [Embed] from >>82587129; this is why I don't make many /hyw/ threads!

>>82587407
>interested to see what her problem is
Well, you know, retirement is supposed to be for good...

>tfw starving artist life in NewYork became just like RENT
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fjbMKO6hOOk

>>82592043
The way you whinge and piss and moan about it. If you kept it cool. nothing would happen. But you drop your pasta and all hell breaks loose, just as you intended.

>>82592110
because your art is shit

>>82592153
>just as you intended
Give me a break.

>>82592222
That all you got? Is that the best you can do?

>>82592202
Your insult doesn't work because rent was one of the most influential arts in the 1990's and is still making billions. It spoke about controversial topics that started shitstorms and charged view points of many, were's your revolutionary work Dobson?

>>82592222
>>82592043
>>82591871
Hey what's your comic anon?
I'ma hankerin for a new comic to read.

>>82592428
http://diggercomic.com/

>>82591859
so stop putting so much work into incessantly mocking him then and just ignore him like a sane person
>>82591861
yeah it's hard to write shit you don't know

>>82592472
I said YOUR comic.

>>82591998
i wonder why it's the most outlandish lies that bug me the most

>>82592428
You're talking to at least 2 different people there, bud. But you think you're talking to one.

Cute.

>>82592504
http://project-apollo.net/mos/

>>82592043
eh, everyone makes mistakes.

>>82592110
Jim?

>>82592525
Ah I see. Anon what's yo comic

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Been up all night reading about frost giants, and decided I want one in my occult detective comic. How much research do you guys for your comics, and what kind of research?

Also, do you guys struggle with finding the perfect skin colors for characters? Fuck. It's always too pink, or orange or something. How do you find a balanced skin color, goddammit!?

>>82592508
Go look at his older art and tell me with a straight face that he's made any significant improvements.

>>82592623
What's a frost giant?

I usually just color pick from photographs and go from there.

>>82592389
look at this stupid fag who can't contain his hardon for a musical. it's great, go suck a dick and watch it again.

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>>82592428

>>82592682
I think they're in skyrim.
Or maybe those are frost trolls and frost giants are those scandinavian legends
>>82592623
No skin color means easy skin color to pick from. This was a habit I had to represent the real world in comics because it's dull and colorless. In mine now it's the complete opposite.
There's some research I put into it such as train signals, video game references, and how weapons work in said games but there's almost no research into it and I'm just going by dream logic.

>>82592623
please god not more fucking norse/viking myth

>>82592636
he has made the most amazingly rapid progress of anyone i've ever seen. he's just still on step 25 of 148

>>82592623
i save a few good skin thumbnails then do slight variations of them. shifting from yellow to red makes some of the biggest differences

also frost giants are fuckhuge. as cool as the concept is, i dont think you can manage them properly without either otherdimensions or just saying your versions are the real ones that the myths exaggerated.

>>82592581
Not sure about those colouring methods you've got there. Smoothness is not always a good thing - you need some texture in there.

don't blur everything out, it can be good to have some visible stroke marks in there, or clear distinctions between bright and dark parts

and maybe add some highlights in there

the colour choice seems pretty much fine,

>>82592932
Okay, I'll change something up on this next panel. When you say highlights, what do you mean? Because I know what it means but I don't understand completely.

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fwooosh

>>82592802
I was thinking about just implying it. That's pretty much what I do with every mythological character. Even though I enjoy all the background info I can get, I rarely use it in the comic, just to cut the boring exposition.

Anyway, why are you so fed up with norse stuff?

>>82592623
Mh that hand is perfect too perfect

>sharing concept idea with normie friends
>start letting them in on artwork and details
>start shipping the two MCs
don'tknowhowtofeel.jpg

>>82593064
Really? I was thinking there's something a bit off about it. It's my arm btw, mirror is a friend and I've got a lot of them.

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>>82592996
the brightest of the bright
the specific area that is the brightest, the part of the curve that most directly faces the light

i probably shouldn't've mentioned them as there aren't any massively shiny things in the pic, but it's generally a nice thing to add

but anyway, the way you're colouring makes things look like smooth, matte plastic, when cloths are quite heavily textured,

On that topic, get some folds in there, son

>>82593044
Not him but Norse stuff is so over used and unoriginal now it's hard to get into any of it. Now if they used more variety of Norge lore that be great, me being a Norweaboo and all. Also wouldn't mind some more over sexualized Norwegian men, they're my fetish.

>>82592852
I like your sense of humor anon

>>82593255

I thought people were really into the Norse stuff now, because everyone was tired of Greek/Roman/Egyptian stuff.

>>82593198
If anything its probably the way the texture is in a flat plane that might be throwing you off, but the shape is perfect

>>82593255
I have no idea what a general Norwegian man looks like. I live in Finland and I know our men, and they're just straight-up depressing sometimes. We could use some sexualization over here too.

>>82593044
An overuse in current media when there's a wealth of less explored myth and legend available.While Norse myth is certainly interesting in its origins, the interpretation is just a boiled down cliche of "guys with hammers/axes" "ice everything" "runes" or some variation based off Skyrim or marvel's Thor of all things

>>82587365
Great greens for the foliage. But mixing them up regardless of distance makes it look flat. Appealingly flat, but still flat. You're going for depth, so use lighter/less-intense shades the farther away something is, and darker/deeper shades the closer it is.

>>82593393
Mm, probably, yeah. I do quite a bit of real-life gesture drawing (which I warmly recommend for all you guys in here) and that really helps me to understand muscles, bones, joint, fat, etc. It's great.

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>>82593209
I added texture to the couch green eyes is laying on a few pages ago but then I forgot to add it after that page.
Okie dokie though. I'll definitely try.
I'm kind of having a dilemma because their outside environment are kind of based on pic related (so everyone's eyes are electric colored and saturated) but shadows are natural except there's not really a definite light source on the outside of the trolley they're in so I'm at odds.
As for the clothing, Green-eyes is wearing a bathcoat-like think so it's supposed to be smooth but the pic you linked has a better texture for it than what I did.
I'll post another page in about an hour or 30 minutes or whatever or so.

>>82593348
Well if it's deeper, more researched and isn't just "muh Norse gods" I think that would make whatever you're doing stand out a whole lot more, make it more interesting anyway. It's rare you see actual well developed and researched Norse mythology in comics now days. Also, not enough norweaboo service.

>>82592623
I only stick to normie characters because going to vampire, demon, ayy lmaos, etc. scare me. There are so many things tp get wrong, you see, but if I do end up making one, I always research a lot. Like almost all the links in Google's 1-10 page are not left unclicked. And then after that, Youtube videos. I try to get to the most acceptable representation of the creature, but will always end up with the most simplest product because if I try too hard and fucked up.... well. I fucked up big time AND the worst part is that I tried hard. That kind of leaves no room for my own imagination, I'm aware of it, yes.


For skin pigmentation. Monster girl inspo???

>>82593465
>so use lighter/less-intense shades the farther away something is, and darker/deeper shades the closer it is
But the foliage is naturally different colors, it has nothing to do with distance.

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>>82593565
it could be a good idea to have some sharp, cast shadows
while im not saying you shouldn't shade things fully at all, something like the left egg can help stuff stand out

>>82593635
they /should/ use lighter/less-intense shades the further away they are
that wasn't a description, that was a suggestion

>>82593565
>>82593663
*especially with the artstyle you're going with

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>>82593663
I agree. If I could, I would be able to shade like pic related.
Sorry for anime, I randomly stumbled on this pic a few months back.

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>>82593430
>I have no idea what a general Norwegian man looks like
You want help with that? If we're talking modern a lot of them wear rain jackets or other types of long leaved shirts. Military is also a big thing in Norway, a ton of men have been on military programs sometime in their lives and a fun steriotype they often get is the "silly soldier" (læfy). Now trust me on this, a lot of them have semi-long, soft fluffy hair like pic related.

>>82593255
>overused
not his fault
>unoriginal
hardly. outside of these threads and the Thor movies it never gets used anywhere.
>hot viking men are your fetish
fuck yeah lady. unrelated: i'm single.

>>82593348
i dont recall egyptian shit being used often

>>82593722
it is always interesting seeing usually cel shaded stuff done with more paintbrushery. this one seems to still have the solid shineparts

>>82593935
I'm using Egyptian shit in mine, pretty happy with it because I grew up with parents highly knowledgeable on ancient civilizations and I have a couple of Aribic speaking friends helping me out
>>82593901
Never said it was, just giving him an answer. Vikings are not my fetish, insecure beta Norwegian men are.

Some people might know this already, but if you're using a tablet and your smooth lines aren't responding well anymore (it's being choppy, the lines are thick like it's drawn with a mouse, the stabilizer feels like shit), the best thing to do is to type "services.msc" into the windows search bar. A list of Services should pop up. Find words such as "Tablet", "Wacom", "Pen"... basically things that are related to your tablet, and then Restart those services. You're good to go. For this to work, every program that's related to art (ie: Firealpaca, SAI, PS) should be closed first.

- obvious

>>82594521
that didn't work for me. whatta you mean search bar?

>>82591772
I keep seeing this and it doesn't make any fucking sense. Tiny?

>>82591848
He's gotten worse somehow.

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Working on this week's Mimi. A ton of family drama is going on and I had to give up coffee so I'm tired as hell and progress is slow.

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>>82594629
jesus m8. Are you on MAC?

Here...

>>82593857
I fuckin' love læfy. He's so fun to watch. I wish we had an American counterpart.

>>82594799
His American counterpart is burger ;_;

>>82594629
If it didn't work for you then your tablet/pen are responding normally/just fine. If it still looks like shit, then either you have fucked up settings in the art programs itself or its time to verify your skills. That solution is for random KAPUTS that happen with Wacom.

>>82594791
i'm using XP, so i guess i don't have that
but i was able to find the services list, and that's really neat! that might actually help me with skype not recognizing my microphone and shit
now how do i make a shortcut to this fucker..

>>82594896
If you fine out, tell me. My tablet goes into lag mode every hour.

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Lozer. His design is based on the idea that he has a natural genetic disadvantage when traveling in united galactic cities and structures by only having arms and no legs. But -- Lozer didn't really choose where he grew up, and developed an inferiority complex because of how he was treated by his peers. Tasks that would take him immense amounts of work could be done effortlessly by the people around him.

Lozer was somewhat pushed into a life of crime -- literally. Given the nickname "Bouncy" he was often abused and used as a fall guy for his "friend" Hank Sully, a carefree galactic cheat known to leave a trail of destruction in his wake. Eventually, Lozer ended up in prison. After he served his time, he decided it was time he set out into the world on his own, and try to live a clean life.

>>82594948
that sucks dude. the only issue i ever run into is if i'm running VLC at the same time, my pressure sensitivity stops working until i either restart photoshop or close VLC. and if i pause or unpause it, that effect triggers again. apparently it's a known conflict between vlc and wacom's shit, and my generic tablet has enough wacom in it to run into that
also every so often pressure sensitivity straight up dies (this looks different in photoshop's settings), and i have to restart my computer

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why don't you guys ever sexualize your male characters? Give us girls some service! Also, give them more guns and have them get beat up more often :3

>>82594896
Holy shit dude, it's 2016 and you're using XP?

what are some place to shill your comic?

>>82594984
>one eyed monster
>his friend Sully

I'm onto you

>>82595281

It's two pronged. Hank Sully is the off-brand Han Solo, but viewed from a person who got screwed over by him.

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Now, To put out the words tomorrow.

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>>82595419

Also here is my last comic if someone is confuse.

>>82595419
Link to comic pls

>>82595492
http://character-limit-blog.tumblr.com/post/142211437870/another-comic

Here you go, Don't follow me! I am terrible at updating stuff.

>>82595602
Thanks. What's your comic about?

adding onto >>82595056, also tie them up more

>>82595056
Sexualizing things is degeneracy.

>>82596190
>characters having a sexuality is bad
tumblr pls go

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Will color soon.

>>82596237
Please read the Bible and understand that you don't need to sexualize everything to enjoy this mortal plane.

>>82595729
>Thanks. What's your comic about?

Lucky lotus is bitchy thief girl that met two of the greatest guys in the world. One is lous (the dog), A living zodiac that carry a bag that got everything item in the world. And sunflower (mummy), A kid who is curse by a witch and got his skin rip out. Don't worry, sunflower is magical and very smart.


Their goal is to meet the king of light (who is a guy that grants wishes to people with pure hearts). Sorry for my English, I hope it make sense to you.

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>>82596272
>read the bible
>bible has anything to do with sexuality other than spilling semen is wrong
There's nothing wrong with sexuality you prude, it's a natural part of biology and a form of art.

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>>82595056
I drew this once..
>>82595205
fuck, i didnt even get it til late 2006. i was using 98 til then. and since then i've hated every new version of windows, so

>>82596330
That's interesting.
>sorry for my English
Is English not your first language? What happened to your mail man comic?

>>82596268
ah you're still alive! so glad. and so happy to see love blooming over burgers.
What happened in the word 'conversation' ?

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>>82596409
Lissen 'ere u lil' shit
I don't have any other argument.

>>82596272
that's pretty weak bait, mate. we've read song of solomon. it's a beautiful thang.
>>82596409
that wasnt the sin, the problem was he didnt tell his wife about it. so every day she didnt get pregners she was like 'oh i must be fucked up and barren' and meanwhile it's his fault and he's biting his tongue. asshole. if you dont want kids, TELL her. lying sumbitch got what was coming to him

>>82587365
Personally I don't like the color palette you chose, but whatever it's not bad.

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>>82596469
>What happened to your mail man comic?

This whole story is basically prequel.

>>82596484
The funniest part though is I'm actually asexual and I'm defending sex
>>82596504
Wasn't there something about wasting semen too?
>>82596581
Can I have a link to that one too? thx

>>82596644
No, the funniest part is that I draw porn and I'm defending against sexualizing.

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>>82596664
We are friends now

This thread has a bully problem.

Pls no bully.

>>82596644
>Can I have a link to that one too? thx

There is none. Last year, I say I was rebooting my whole universe.

>>82596644

I'd rather cute than sex.

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>>82596740
If I bully you, will you leave?

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>>82596731
Yup.

So if I want to make a story based comic, what are the first steps?
I'm pretty sure it's characters first, right? Then I write the basic plot?

>>82596803
Link to your comic?

>>82596824
Can you draw?

>>82596797
No Sean

>>82596837
I got a friend on that.
We're not expecting to make money, but we're both secretly praying it gets a homestuck tier autistic fanbase.

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>>82596904

>>82596824
Start with the story. Build your characters and setting around that.

>>82596904
sounds like another shitty slapped together duo destined to fizzle

>>82596644
there were some commandments for the jews while they were wandering in the desert, that basically sounded like they were motivated by scarcity of water, yeah.
they had to dig a lotta wells! cant afford elective ejaculations. and you cant exactly wash off if you get all sticky.

>>82596836
>http://opiopio.smackjeeves.com/comics/
I hope you realize I'm still trying to figure my artstyle out and I still need to work on the html when I get time and I also need to edit some pages in the future and I'm not taking my time at all at first and I need to convert the pictures to a lower quality .jpg someday so just ignore the quality issues aha

>>82596995
Hmm. I like your art style, but you need to decide whether they will or won't have noses or not. I personally like no-nose art but that's just me. Also, maybe it's just because it's the beginning, but I'm confused on what's happening. What's your story about?

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>>82597197
Only on the side.
Time skip and they'll have noses.
It's like an illusion or something.
There's 6 20 year olds in purgatory and so Blackie and Pop gets a proposal from the old man to go hunt some shit to fuel the train which is purgatory so they can leave purgatory.
And then they get sent somewhere and go around killing demonic influences in different sections of a star of David until they meet up in the middle and then try to work out their differences and escape the old man's influences or something while Blackie and Pop are trying to live out their childhood dream in a candy land.
I wrote out a prologue but I'll just shove it into the epilogue or something.

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>>82597197
Oh and it's going by video game logic and 3 of the characters are teleporting everywhere since they have console commands. I'll joke about it later.

>>82597449
Sounds a bit confusing but it has potential. So you're also using demonic concepts? Are you using your own lore or basing it off research?

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>>82597608
The demons are pic related but not exactly because the art styles wouldn't mix so they're just whatever.

>>82597646
did you have a bunch of different people draw pieces of your shit?

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CUT MY COMIC INTO PIECES
NO READERS SINCE LAST MONTH
LOSING MY DRIVE
AND MY PASSION
BEEN 28 YEARS SINCE I'VE SEEN ACTION

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>>82597673
No, I have memory issues from bumping my head too much and I forgot how to draw my previous art style.

>>82597646
Oh. I was just asking because I'll be using a lot of mythology from different cultures. Your story sounds interesting, I'll keep an eye on it.

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What do you think?

>>82598699
garbage, but we already know you're not the autistic creator and are just here to bait hate responses.

>>82598699
What am I supposed to be reading?

>>82598818
Is the artist really autistic?

(Did I just take the bait?)

>>82598940
Probably.
(And no.)

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Kay

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>>82591647
Hey; sorry, I know these can get confusing when dialogues are ommited; mainly I don't post dialogues because most of it is "placeholder" and they often end up rather different is the final product. Plus I largely post here to get critique on the art

But yeah, it's a flashback of the fisherman back when he was a kid. also, Caustantin is a boy; I can see where he looks a bit androgynous with the long hair and the tunic looking a bit like a skirt, but that was unintentional

>>82592623
>How much research do you guys for your comics, and what kind of research?

A LOT; every chapter of mine so far has focussed on a different creature of Celtic mythology. Of course Wikipédia and Mythicalcreatureslist.com are good places to start, though it really helps to read up actual tales involving them, for which Sacred-texts.com is excellent

>>82593348
I think that was just the case way back in Marvel's Thor, because Lee thought people were too familiar with Greeco-roman myth. Nowadays you can't have a high fantasy without elves, dwarves, and Trolls, even if the Vikings are absent

>>82593602
You should check out Carrion Girls. The author often comes here and it's actually one of the best mythology comics I've read precicelly because of the amount of research put into Norse myth and culture.
Even "popular" myths can bemade more interesting by going back to the source; I try to do the same in mine as well

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>Thread activity: Work on your comic.

Allrighty, here's what I got so far.

If I had to describe it in a sentence, it'd be "slice of life webcomic about two girls running a flower shop set on a rural-ish town"

Still gotta decide on a name for it as well.

Here's a lot of pics of it! http://imgur.com/a/HnFrT

>>82602133
Looks pretty neat. If your finished pages will have lineart like the imgur images and colors like the image posted here, I don't think anyone will be dropping it for the art.

>name
"Lily and Petunia" doesn't seem like a bad name at all.

>that second-to-last image
Anon, how gay is this comic gonna be?

DEAD AS FUCK

>>82603300
Eh, it means people are working on their comics instead of not-forgetting-they're-here-forever.

>>82603396
>implying any of the lazy fucks in here are working

post wips

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>>82603542
k

>>82603542
i'll show you a wip
*unzips pants*

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>>82603542
i'm proceeding extremely slow between 12 different lesbean oneshots.

writing
paneling
skethc
erasing writing
writing again

>>82603645
mite b cute. fuck /u/ tho

>>82603686
>someone's never experienced the purest form of love

>>82603710
>Purest form of love
>Higher rate of domestic abuse than straight or gay male couples
>Higher rate of obesity than straight or gay male couples

>>82603760
are you talking about western irl dykes? because im only into japanese and 2d ones...

>>82587994
I like this but I also don't like it. You came up with these great characters, and hints at the world they inhabit, but you DON'T plan on continuing the story. It's just a waste.

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>>82603760
>>Higher rate of domestic abuse than straight or gay male couples
holy fuck can women do anything right?

>>82603825
No anon. No they cannot.
They're really bad people we need to put our dragons in.

>>82603760
>Higher rate of obesity than straight or gay male couples
Love is blind yo.

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>>82603542

>>82603869
Why is there lacing in the dress when there's no split?

Her color palette is too deeply saturated to the point where parts of our outfit blend into others in a way that makes it look like a muddied mess. The brush you used to draw it isn't helping either.

>>82603869
I think it would work better with a paler skin tone.

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mi amigos, where/how do you get inspos for romantic scenes if you have not experiences romance and/or not interested in romance? do you marathon romantic movies for research or...

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Self-promotional new comic notification: Fili finds some Helmets.
http://www.favouritecrayon.co.uk/comic/helmets/

Next up, making a start on the mini-epic. I've finalised a model sheet of sorts for Fili and Noli, though it's likely I'll continue to ignore it as I usually do.

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>>82603893
Hrrmmm.

>>82603994
Ah whuups, meant >>82603972

>>82598699
Burn this

>>82603977
This is cute

>>82603869
>Another tall, slender character
The first one is already like this, try something different. Good cartoon teams either have very slight but meaningful differences or are completely distinct. I would advise you to go for one or another, but all of your female characters have the same body type with variations on how tall they are.

>>82603977
Real life relationships are almost never like they are portrayed in fiction. In that regard they're pretty much like action scenes, you don't need to have experience in hand to hand combat to write/draw them properly.

As for romantic scenes specifically, it's more about knowing why would those characters be interested in each other and the just playing out the acting.

>>82604232
So you don't like it anon?

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>>82604249
thanks amigo. you're my only amigo in this room

>>82604299
It's not bad, but I'd give it more leeway if you didn't have several female characters with the same build. Even if it's supposed to match up with an existing character, you could do with some variation.

Also, it's weird that she has the same mirror wrist guards as the other one. See, that one fought with her fists, so that makes sense. On this one they draw attention to the hands...why?

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>>82604391
I grew up on Ninja Turtles. They didn't need to have a fat one or a skinny one, or a short one. It was fine that they looked utterly the same. What's important is that they ARE different characters.

I'm not really into shoehorning body diversity just because a lot of other people do it. I think there's ways to be way too flippant with diversifying body types. For me there's a goldilocks zone that should be travelled outside of only for special occasions.

>See, that one fought with her fists
Noooo no no no. Princess Rosebuster is named so because one or both of her arms transform into megabuster rip-offs. I plan to do a separate pic later of these fairies with brandished weapons. The gloves and laces are no different than the turtle belt buckles and elbowguards.

>>82604350
Amigo in spanish means target for a robbery

>>82604558
ayy shit.
La mia amica then.

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Woke up and deleted half of a page because It wasn't working. ho well. Off to work

>>82604540
You seem to be ignoring that I said
>Good cartoon teams either have very slight but meaningful differences or are completely distinct.
Emphasis on the first half.

Teams like the TMNT, PPG, and Power Rangers work because they only have very slight but immediately obvious differences. The original TMNT had no differences at all, actually, but the color coded version boosted them into the huge franchise they are today.

They also work because, aside from evil counterparts and intentionally similar side characters, this core design is exclusive to the team. There is nobody else in TMNT who looks ANYTHING like the Turtles except the anti-turtles of stuff like Flash Forward and forced extras like Venus di Milo. This is why I ALSO said
>I'd give it more leeway if you didn't have several female characters with the same build.

The design is fine. Not the best, but fine. The problem is that this looks a lot like multiple existing female characters in your comic. Raphael, Buttercup and suited-up Billy don't resemble Casey, Princess (who actually IS supposed to look like a knockoff), or Skull. And when characters tend to bleed over due to the author's style, body diversity does wonders. If it weren't for the Ginyu's differences, Burter would be criticized as just a Blue Lizard Jeice. You don't need to reinvent the fucking wheel, just have SOME meaningful variation beyond height.

I misunderstood the first character, but I would still argue that the mirror-ish guards are like the Powerpuff silhouettes or the Ranger masks in that they can change the impression of the design.

>>82594777
I'm sorry to hear that. Keep trucking on! It looks cute so far

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>>82604756
Would you go as far as to say all my females look like barbie dolls? I've been charged of that. Unfairly, in my opinion.

Is this complaint levied only at the female half of my work? Would that mean you're generally happy with the males you've seen so far, because this is the kind of stuff I don't hear much about when I'm finished with it.

>>82595056
>girls
Anon, stop pretending to be a girl. No one is going to draw gay pine for you.

>>82604540
>>82604756
And hey, please don't take this like me saying "MY way is the only RIGHT way!" I just thought you ignored (or just missed) how the first post relates to the second and the ideas I'm trying to get across. There's nothing wrong with simplicity and unity in design on its own. I only think it doesn't come together because its shared traits pervade your entire work instead of just the group.

If you still like it that way after considering what I said, then don't think I'm saying you've made a mistake. Your art is about making your decisions, not whether it's right or wrong.

>>82587903
>"you're really nice deep down arent you? you were just misunderstood"
when guys say stuff like this I know immediately that they are trying to FUCK and then I make fun of them with my friends from an ambiguous distance away, so he can hear us all clucking like the amused chickens we are.

>>82605024
I did say it depends on the girl. It won't work on all bitches.

>>82604952
Of course the criticism would be unfair. It's directed at you, after all. You didn't do nothing wrong.

>>82605090
pls no bully

>>82604540
>grew up on Ninja Turtles. They didn't need to have a fat one or a skinny one, or a short one. It was fine that they looked utterly the same. What's important is that they ARE different characters.

Looking at your comic, I'm assuming you also grew up on Shounen manga such as One Piece or Hunter x Hunter. A problem I had with your comic when I read it is, like someone else poited out, every female character just looks the same.

Think back of the TNMT and you'll notice that, often when the caste all use the same bodytype with some identifiers (color codes, accessories, etc...) is when those character are part of a team or distinct "group"

It's why similar body-types work with, say, the Sailor Moon cast but instead dulls your character design. Brining back the comment I made on Shounen manga, series like One Piece or Hunter x Hunter have VERY diverse bodytypes which (perhaps subconciously) help accentuate how over-the-top their worlds are.

It's not about "shoehorning", it's about making things visially more entretaining to the reader, same way you're not "shoehorning" different hairstyles, . Obviously we all have prefferences, I try to vary things as much as I can within realistic boundaries (no obese warriors, for example), you don't have to make one of your girls fat and another a She-Hulk, but it would be nice to see a new character that ISN'T a Lanky-Girl-in-her-Late-Teens/Early-20's

>>82604952
Shit, I posted
>>82604998
too late.

But no, I wouldn't call them Barbie dolls. I would just say they look way too similar. Like, if I changed the protagonist's hair, clothes and pupils, I could pin them as any other female. That's not so bad if it happens a few times, but I think that applies to all of them. If you put them side by side I think they're taller and shorter, some have longer faces, but that's about it.

On guys, you haven't drawn very many, have you? There's a few monstrous animal people, and by the nature of BEING anthropomorphic and varied in width and height they're different. But the one male character who showed up regularly seems...I think "indistinct" or "nondescript" might work best. He has a robot arm and a dark skin tone, but he doesn't seem to have a particular build to him. He's average, I suppose. I feel like if there were more human males they'd look a lot like him too.

You don't need to make every character some crazy, exaggerated caricature, but what you have now seems a bit homogenous. There's a shape for girls and every girl is just a slight variation on that. I don't think that works well, but that's only an opinion, not a fact.

>>82605090
Don't be a dick, he's behaving.

>>82604540
>shoehorning body diversity
>goldilocks zone

Sorry, but are you saying that the body diversity of your female characters should only be pushed "on special occasions"? I genuinely don't understand, not trying 2bully. I think it's possible to be just as diverse with female bodies as with male, even if it isn't so common (or not what you wanna do in your work.) Despite the criticism, I think Steven Universe does a great job of having diverse male and female body types (vesus something like Adventure Times, Disney, etc.)

But tl;dr I don't know what the phrase "goldilocks zone" means and I would like to.

>>82605186
It's a reference to Goldilocks and the 3 bears, "just right."

Come on man.

>>82595056
I fully clothed my male character because I intend to have him semi naked at some point as a result of the fight. Clothes can only withstand so much beating

>>82605245
I thought so, but wasn't sure because it sounds so much like "I make sure they fall within this very narrow zone" which surprised me because it is antithetical to most character design practice and also because Scribs seems talented enough to not need to limit himself.... but of course, he is probably choosing to which hey... different strokes for different folks.

>>82605293
That's exactly what it is. He's using "just right" as a placeholder for "well, it FEELS right to me in a way I can't describe" because he doesn't know enough to really understand what looks right and what will read right. See the problems with the colors and multiple little details on >>82603994. It's just a mess, and he doesn't have enough knowledge of what works and what doesn't to be able to properly articulate why something works and what looks good.

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>>82605135
So I pitfall with the female half. Should I think I haven't with the male half? Is there a place where I demonstrably went very very right? Where is the bicycle not broken, I guess is what I'm asking.

>>82605186
>I think Steven Universe does a great job of having diverse male and female body types
Of course it has diverse body types. It's expressly interested in that. I'm not as interested. In Chrono Trigger, in FF6, all those sprites-with a few exceptions-are roughly the same size. And what interested me is how they acted, and what they were capable of. I know there was more official art of them, showing them as more different-y in shape, but I never actually owned the strategy guides.

No one really gets into why they're so interested in seeing the bodies vary more than they are, or how they'd like them. If someone cited an example every once and awhile "If I were you, I would've designed _____ more like _____" then yeah I'd be interested to discuss that. But my creative process juggles differently. It's easy enough to say "Hey, you could spruce up this" because yeah maybe. There's many timesinks in the educational process. How do you know when's the time to be picking which one?

Let's nitpick a totally standalone pinup girl. Pic related is Big Sciss. She wields scissors, and wears a dress made out of chuck taylor shoes. What would you have stretched and/or squarshed, do you think?

>I don't know what the phrase "goldilocks zone" means
Scientific term; the distance from the sun that's not too hot or too cold. That knife-edge where the Earth dwells.

I think this dork right here reads too much into it:
>>82605375
And nigga, it's a work in progress.
youtube.com/watch?v=RVmG_d3HKBA

I'm trying a completely different construction method where color is thrown down before lines are. And I rarely keep all the exact same colors that I start with, in any method. But you assume those are final and that's just naive if you've ever known me or my work.

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EYYY I have been looking for this thread. So yeah, I have a webcomic, I ended up getting dropped out of business school trying to draw this one comic book because I have been cursed for a while where I just could not finish anything I tried to make.

Anyway, I got this whole thing posted on a blog right here: http://syrisandthatdude.blogspot.com/2016/05/episode-1-12.html

I get no money from it. Please enjoy while I regret my life choices hahaha.
any erotica or derived work and critique is encouraged.

>>82605375
Now wait, that isn't an INHERENTLY bad design. It's just a bad design for a colorful action cartoon because the little details would be hard to keep consistent and there's not enough contrast. There's plenty of gaudier, more ornate designs in comics that work just fine.

>>82587228
This is beautiful
I like the color spectrum you've used here

>>82605574
>Of course it has diverse body types. It's expressly interested in that.
Sure, but that doesn't negate the fact that they do so in a way that doesn't unsuspend the viewers disbelief, and does so in a way that is purposeful and plot-relevant...

It's more about silhouettes, I think. Like sure, you can vary a silhouette with hair and clothing, but it's not great if removing the accessories removes what distinguishes that character from another.

It's kind of like how each "gem" has a different body type/silhouette that distinguishes who they are - and then there's gems of the same type who are distinguished only by dress (pic related.) I think your designs err more toward the latter, but it's worth considering why, especially in the context of the plot.

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>>82605728

>>82605574
>pic
The design's weird, like older FF or jrpgs where there are so many things on a character, but I really enjoy the effort put into it. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was here months ago and, IIRC, you arent drawing anime. You were doing a comic about a young boy... and I remember bright colors and big mushrooms. Why the sudden change to anime?

>>82605574
>In Chrono Trigger, in FF6, all those sprites-with a few exceptions-are roughly the same size.
Those games were also working with very limited hardware and their art direction succeeded due to abstraction. We're talking about sprites where one pixel was the difference between normal and buff, petite and HUEG BOOBS. You can apply this logic to your art, but you would need a style that compliments it.

And, not to be harsh, but I think it's less that people think they know how to do it better and more that they'd like SOMETHING different. Maybe her neck is long, or she has a thin nose, or more muscle definition, or a different chest/hip ratio, or strange eyebrows, or...really anything significant? Because to me I'm just thinking "that hoodie girl in a Final Fantasy cosplay."

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>>82605728
>>82605732
Alright just for the sake of posting an example that everyone knows:

Do you have the same nitpick with these gentlemen about to go on a trip?

>>82605732
But that's literally his point.
They're the same gem, so their hair, colors and accessories vary, but the core design is the same. Meanwhile different gems vary wildly in build.

>>82605574

Guy you responded to in your first paragraph; gonna keep a Name on because anonymous conversations are a mess to follow

>Should I think I haven't with the male half? Is there a place where I demonstrably went very very right? Where is the bicycle not broken, I guess is what I'm asking.

I love your sharks, but those are anthropomorphic animals so let's focus on the human.
I recall four human male characters in your comic. Robot-Arm has a similar lanky body type as the female. That by itself isn't bad but then you've got the guy with the Bo-staff who looks about the same "lanky-guy-in-his-early-20s". Even the pirate captain and the Old man were lanky; all the cops during the Shark carnage also looked VERY young. Now, you DID do a better job with the male humans than the females, but that's also largely because of the age difference. Your comic generally reminds me of CLAM character design; but with a bit less variety. Which is a shame because your art is strong is MOST departments, but character design is not one of them

Latter on your say
>In Chrono Trigger, in FF6, all those sprites-with a few exceptions-are roughly the same size.
That's all well and good, but they were working with SNES top-down perspective limitations. You look at the art and while you've got that distinct Toryama style but you can't tell me the girls all look the same.

Giving the characters different bodytypes is, the way I see it, the same reason you give them different hair. It makes the cat more fun to look at. Of course, I might go too much to the other extreme (if there's a lanky girl in a group, there'll almost always be a chunky girl), but I think that makes the WORLD itself more interesting

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>>82605860
That was not the right image.

God. Dammit.

>>82605861
WHOOPS IGNORE ME

>>82605890
how can I ur hot

>>82605879
While that pic is a bad example, each of the Stardust Crusaders has a different body type. It's subtle, and Araki has a serious problem of design elements running together, but Kakyoin us much thinner while Polnaref is very top heavy, Potato is much like a thinner Kenshiro while Old Joseph has an almost rectangular quality to his build.

When conducting yourself on Twitter, etc, is it better to be a reasonable, rational, kind of person, or just a rampant shitposter (never cruel, but absurd 90% of the time) who can always try to get out of a mistake by pretending you were just being absurdist when you said something ridiculous in earnest by rolling with it and turning it into a joke?

I'm not sure whether the former or the latter is better for avoiding being hurt. The former is more 'genuine' but the latter is significantly more defensive because any attacker motivated by morality (i.e. objection to something you've said) will generally reply to increasingly absurd posts as though they were genuine. On the other hand if you say something accidentally offensive and completely misjudge the mood the absurdist option might blow up even more.

But at least with shitposting you always have the option of shitposting more. Sometimes you can get boxed in when talking seriously and not know what to say next.

>>82605934
>>82606039
HAHA THIS DORK THOUGHT HE LOST HIS POST.

POINT AND LAUGH AT HIS AWKWARD FORTUNE

WHAT AN ASSHOLE

>>82606054
I have no idea how that happened.
I even used my phone to see if it was just this computer being weird because I was 100% certain it posted, but it wouldn't appear.

What the fuck.

I mean
It was merely a ruse.

>>82606039
lol.

>>82605934
Literally stay away from Twitter entirely. You don't have to write stupid blogposts or respond to the stupidity of others. If you absolutely cannot exist in this realm without responding to something, be brief and final, don't be retarded and put the reply on your site or wherever you host your comic.

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>>82606084
My phone does that too. Let me see if I can do it again.

>>82605574

>No one really gets into why they're so interested in seeing the bodies vary more than they are, or how they'd like them.

I just like seeing variation in characters. It helps them feel more grounded, and relatable. The cast of Team Fortress 2 is a good example of a bunch of different characters with varying body types. Sure, the core cast is all male, but they all have distinct features; Different noses, different eyes, different muscle builds... It helps reaffirm exactly who they are and make them more appealing because of it. You don't need to hear the scout to know what he sounds like or how he acts; Same thing with the Heavy, or the engineer, or the spy.

>>82605834
It's definitely worth noting that those sprites aren't the original concepts - they're abstractions of the actual character designs, and those designs are of course fairly diverse. It's pretty noticeable in Chrono Trigger too, given even the obvious differences in characters like Robo, Frog, Ayla, and the typical humans, even in sprite form.

If anything, with sprites those differences almost feel more important given how much you need to convey through so little visual information.

>>82606133
I think it's the very existence of bad reply systems with low-threshold for nuance like Twitter and Tumblr that has allowed 3rd wave feminism to exist.

Unchecked myth and bold snappy comebacks are the lifeblood of the SJW. There is a right and wrong way to have a conversation and twitter flat out champions the wrong way.

I have lost dear friends to this Scientology 2.0 and it's just goddamned depressing. Keeping away from these mediums doesn't change the fact, sadly. There's a powerful need to reform these places. At least tumblr added a PM system recently.

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>>82605879
>>82605931
I love Araki, but the earlier stuff definitely had a lot of sameface/same build going on. I think he improves on what the other Anon mentioned in Diamond is Unbreakable, which stylistically was a departure from the earlier stuff (though I heard this was partially to give JoJo more appeal to women? But in any case...)

>>82605934
why cant there be a middle ground for this? but if I really have to choose, I guess the former. The latter is, well, I dont really see any reason why I would need to get out of a mistake by merely pretending. If its my mistake, I have made a mistake. Time to correct it and move on. Also if you shitpost, youll get shitposters to follow you and you know what they say! "a fool something something will take another fool's something something seriously and think theyre in good company" or something.


Honestly, Id also stay away from twatter. If I really have to use it, itll only be for the updates. I wont talk unless its really necessary. The shit that might happen that you'll regret the day after might be unsalvageable.

>>82606204
Tumblr is the most inexplicable site on earth.

A blog site without a comment system and very limited control over content layouts
A weird psuedo-webhost style allowing geocities tier layouts for everything BUT the important content
An image host with a resolution limit

I mean what the fuck

>>82605879
I haven't read any Jojo, but it would bug me a lot less to read a story where everybody has that bodytype than the one you use because at least it stands out from the competition.
Your girls, in comparison, look like they were carved from the same template as 90% of every other anime artist.

>>82606165
Team Fortress made varied silhouettes a priority because of the fast pace of the gameplay. When you turn the corner, you need to know instantly whether you're facing down a medic or a heavy, or the gameplay would turn into a mess.

>>82606240
dont forget the shitty videos that lag/buffer/halt every time.

>>82606243

Varying silhouettes is just good design practice in general. It doesn't need to be for a gameplay reason, and lots of good character designs are informed by their silhouettes.

>>82605879
I haven't read JJBA, but from looking at that pic alone there are definitely subtle differences in their built. Second From the Left is thinner than the others and has sharper features, Black guy looks slightly broader, while Older Man is more rectangular than the one to his left, who has the most well-balanced proportions and younger facial features

>>82605574
Can you please respond to >>82590961 and >>82603893 about the flaws in the dress' design?

>>82605574
>No one really gets into why they're so interested in seeing the bodies vary
Think of it like this: when you create characters you probably come up with unique histories, personalities, motivations etc. for all of them. You give them personalised outfits, place them in different environments, so why would you give them mostly indistinguishable body types? The physical appearance of a character isn't complete after designing just their facial features, you're leaving out a very effective visual tool of conveying character.

>>82605934
Reminder: The mods of Twitter are nu-males and SJWs.


You might want to rethink being a shitposter. Once a random babby get hurt, your account could be gone.

>>82606333
Nope!

>>82606353

Nobody is telling you to change the character designs you already made (at least I'm not) But for future characters maybe try something more diverse.

And by diverse I don't mean fat or trans or whatever -- this ain't about inclusion -- it's purely about raw diversity of character designs. I feel like even subtle differences in their core features (like face shape, noses, eyes, general body build) would help define them as unique and memorable characters.

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Got the entire story and plot 100% down. Just working with my artist friend to get some designs down for characters then we begin. Hope machine abominations are still popular

>>82603977
Depends on whether you want it to feel real or sappy. If the former, talk to other people about their experiences. Good research makes good writing.

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>>82606456
I also just plain find it hard to keep an akashic record of my character models and how they're different from each other. I've only picked up bits and pieces of how other people manage to stay on-model when on the fly. All my real idols speak a completely different language. I'm never going to be able to participate in a Q&A with former artists of Capcom.

You have pic related character for example. I know other ways I could make her different but absolutely NO IDEA how I'm gonna enforce that in the future without turning it into another time sink. My comic has gone on long enough hiatuses as is, y'know? Like when I look at the production model sheet for Belle (yes, that Belle) I have No - Fucking - Idea how the animators manage to remember all that shit. Or how they even thought to break her down into principles the way they did.

>>82606353
What a winning personality.

>>82606640
It sounds like you learned a vague body shape and don't really understand the fundamentals of construction or human anatomy.

You could always just...try to deviate instead of not. You'll probably make mistakes, sure, but everyone does, and how else will you learn?

>>82605574
>>82606640
These look like the same person in different outfits. Is she a cosplayer?

>>82606640
>that character
Generic anime ninja plus Splatoon. Par for the course with you.

>>82606810
Jesus. It doesn't sound like you understand my issue very well.

>>82607055
What's your understanding of the issue?

>>82607055
It sounds like... you have issue drawing other body types quickly, so you just stick to what you know? Drawing is muscle memory - draw something over and over, and it'll be second nature.

>>82607166
Are you the same anon? Do you have a skype?

>>82606640
There's the same problem again, she looks like EVERY female character you've had up until this point.
You don't have to stay perfectly on model, but when you have a large cast of girls, at the very least have some girls who are shorter, some who are wider, some who are more muscular, some who are more "well endowed", some who are curvier, some who are thinner, some who are more mature... They don't need to be caricatures, but your girls feels a bit like the "standard model" in a video game with different equipment.

They feel more "generated" than designed.

>>82607513
Are you sure you're still being fair? You're offering no concessions anywhere, and it's all starting to feel a bit bullshit.

>>82607055
How is that wrong? If you have trouble drawing characters differently at all, it's a problem with your fundamentals.

>>82607621
Do you have a skype.

>>82607417
Could you try explaining it publicly just this once? You're being open and the back-and-forth is actually good save a few rude anons. I'm not gonna lynch you if you say something I don't agree with.

>>82607639
I do.
I've talked to you about your art on it before.
You just shooshed me to death after a certain point and I decided to not try that again.

>>82607695
I don't believe you.

This sounds like a parroting to a different lie. I know how I act in private, and that's not it.

Please don't do that.

>>82607734
I'm not trying to make a personal attack, that's just my experience with you. You're receptive to adding things but you hate removing or changing things.

>>82607734
Ugh, I'm not that Anon but you have been rude to me in the webcomic chat before. I don't think you're deliberately rude, I think you just have weak social skills (sorry), but it's worth considering a another person's perception of you to some extent. Even the most self-aware person can only be so aware of themself - and you have no way to tell what you may seem like from the outside but to ask others or do a lot of (inherently biased) soul searching.

>>82607776
>>82607805
If you're not going to give talking to me in private a chance ever again, don't do it in public anonymously either. Stop doing this to the fucking threads. Jesus.

I'd do you the same courtesy. Man up.

>>82607584
What concession are you looking for?

There's plenty things about your art that I like; your character design for humans isn't one of them. Individually those girls look neat, together in the same comic they look dull

>>82608116
Got a skype m8?

>>82607941
I never have talked to you in private on skype, and I don't plan on it. You aren't owed "concessions", or nuggets of positivity nestled into a critique. So you draw the same body type because it would take the time to build the muscle memory to draw other types of figures, is my understanding. Also are you intending to go professional, and if so, how do you think you'll manage with this inability to follow a model sheet that you describe? Like that other Anon said, if it's a muscle memory problem it's one that lies in your fundamentals. Just do some studies beside your comic - no big deal.

>>82608322
Well that's a fuckin shame.

>>82605701
Thanks!

>>82608362
You are the ONLY person in these threads who I've seen ask to move a crit to skype. The whole point of 4chan is to be anonymous - is it really no surprise some people wouldn't want to jump over to a platform where that isn't so? I like that I can post my comic without having it be associated with my comments or critique.

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Check it out kikes
http://syrisandthatdude.blogspot.com/

pic related

>>82597449
noses only from the side is a totally valid thing! right?

>>82608549
Sure, lmao

>>82608517
Nuance. 4chan destroys nuance.

A meaningful educational ceremony can only get so far on 4chan. This place blows if you wanna crush the noise. And I'm merely extremely disappointed that you/they can't recognize that.

--That was gonna be the end of this post, but do you notice how I'm really not even sure which anon you are? Don't you think that poses problems? For fuck's sake man.

>>82600889
well it's not the length, men are supposed to have more hair than women, it's the way the hair is sticky outy at the bottom instead of the top. that's what changes the sex of the hair. a bit more Mighty Max in that hair would have helped.. but it's also pretty period-accurate so whatever. trapped again!

>>82602133
oh that's cuuute as balls.
>>82608746
oh and also the dress, but I guess that's how people used to wear kilts.. all the way over the shoulder and everything

>>82603585
>WE ARE VENOMMMm
oh shiiit

>>82603869
I'm starting to think of these characters as the setting's equivalent of Pure White Lover Bizarre Jelly

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>>82602643
It's gonna be super gnot really but cute moments between the two it's a must

>>82607941
You ASKED, man.
I said no, not again.

>>82608773
thank you, anon!

>>82608718
Fucking cringe.

>>82606240
>>82606273
so glad some people get this

>>82607055
of course not dude, but in case you haven't noticed only you get that kinda shit for doing what basically everyone does. you're being relatively good at responding to it today, but they're still clearly trying to fuck with you. and it's working.

>>82608889
HNNNGH FRIENDS

>>82608773
>dress
Pretty sure that's a tunic. Those were pretty long in the dark ages.
The greatkilt you're thinking of wasn't a thing until the 16th century iirc.

The best way to tell Connie's a dude is by his wearing pants. Plenty of dudes not wearing pants in the dark ages, but very few girls wearing pants.

>>82608807
>shapeshifting monster from another world
That's actually pretty appropriate. Huh.

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>>82587120
I only started about a month ago on mine and so far I've gotten ten pages in mine done. It's about these two officers in the near future named Jackson Armstrong and his just as butch sister Mackenzie work for a special branch of authority called the "Licensed Crimefighting Foundation (LCF)" that handles stuff like monsters, super villains and all sorts of other insane stuff in a universe where anything (literally anything) can happen. You can have a read of what I got right here: http://www.thewebcomiclist.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26119

>>82609034
I'm not trying to fuck with him! I haven't replied to him/related posts in months. People say this when I occasionally comment on Dewd's work too. Giving a negative critique really IS considered trolling now, huh?

>>82609071
oh that makes sense, when i think of tunics i focus on the sleeves, and those are hidden by a cloak

>>82608134
I am in the chat, but unfortunately I'm never on it because I find discussion in /hwy/ easier.
I can try to get on this weekend if I've got time and you happen to be on; but I'm not making any promises.

>>82609205
well no, but.. the specifics. the nitpicking. the careful mix of things that aren't/shouldn't be a problem and things he actually didn't do wrong but a lot of other people do and it would be bad if he did.. i mean seriously, we're criticizing design 2 of.. i dunno, 5, for looking samey? for an in-universe fictional cartoon with a magical girl element to it? I just wonder how many times he has to say he's aware of and in-control of what he's doing, and approves of it, before people stop telling him 'do something different' purely out of a desire to dissent. and accuse him of being unable to do otherwise.

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changed the background to sky to better push things forward

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>>82609205
>Giving a negative critique really IS considered trolling now, huh?
But that couldn't be because anonymity ISN'T totally perfect and divine.

...Right?

No no, there remains no reason to use anything but /co/ to communicate.

>>82609311
see now this is petulant overreacting.. but you cant really blame him. i got pretty mad just reading the posts directed at him, and i'm not on any medication.. yet.
actually if that was me i'd think he probably had that response ready, and just had to wait for a post to reply with it to. because it doesnt really apply to this one