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So are we getting a Disney lesbian kiss? I'm worried the interbutt can't handle the strain with the current infrastructure
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Only if it's Elsa/Anna, I only care for the resulting porn.
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Elsa is not a degenerate.
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Fuck, I'm all for gay rights but I'm beginning to get annoyed. They only make like 4% of the population, what is this obsession with putting them in everything. And it seemed to be coming from really young, and sometimes straight people. I work at an AIDS center with an almost gay stuff and none of them give a shit about this stuff.
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>>82468728
So this pretty much proves that this campaign is fueled by people thinking with their dicks.
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>character is introverted and insecure because of her condition, based on a little girl with diabetes
>homo pride parade stampedes in and tries to re-appropriate her as a fag hag
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It can't happen.
Frozen made huge money in Japan and China. There is no way at all Disney would piss away that money by fagging up Elsa and driving away audiences in those two countries.
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>>82468763
I can't speak to the matter when the characters are dudes, but...
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>>82468836
This sounds accurate
>>82468763
I think it's the victimhood industry. The activist organizations themselves, the clickbait media, etc. If they don't have a 'goal' to complain about their funding dries up.
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>>82468815
>character is introverted and insecure because of her condition, based on a little girl with diabetes
Source?
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Im not surprised, Zootopia have a gay protagonist. Snowball effect.
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>>82469061
What?
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but will it be elsanna?
just say they are adopted or something
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>>82468678
>Disney lesbian kiss
Bwahahaha, we are talking about the company that didn't air the last season of Braceface for simply containing a gay character
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>>82468678
>exposing children to degeneracy intentionally

ALL MUST BE PURGED
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>>82469253
That picture is heresy!!
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>>82468763
>They only make like 4% of the population

Depending on the study it's as high as 10%.

You also have the issue that human sexuality isn't an gay/straight switch or even a gay/straight/bi switch. As much as 25% of the population may be willing to "go gay" under certain circumstances, for example. Typically related to George Clooney or Channing Tatum.
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I'm considering getting a Twitter account just to try and help make this happen. That shit is hot as fuck.
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>>82469061

Nick Wilde is a homosexual fox
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>>82469589
Sure thing, kiddo.
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>>82468763
You make it seem like it's everywhere when it's still rare in children's shows. Korra's ending revealed overt lesbianism which isn't really shown, and even then holding hands isn't a kiss. That's how "heteronormative" even that show was.
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>>82468763
Guys want more Lesbos because it's their fetish, they don't give a shit about gay rights.
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>>82469589
I think he meant Clawhauser.

He's effeminate, but not blatantly gay.
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>>82469589
>Nick
>not Gideon
He even has Byron's haircut
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>>82469689
The haircut isn't real evidence. How girly his business is better evidence.
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>>82468678
Was she even presented as lesbian in the movie? Or is this people just wanting it done for diversity's sake?
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>>82469662
>implying Judy and Nick aren't BOTH gay
Lesbian and straight acting gay is the best friend combo
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>>82468678
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SHOULD DO?
HAVE ELSA BE AESEXUAL.
I mean, bitch was holed up in her bedroom for her entire life, and is basically afraid of human contact. It would make way more sense if she had no sexual/romantic desires at all as opposed to being into the rug munching.

BUT NO, ACCORDING TO THE SJW's ONLY LESBIANS EXIST
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>>82468678

Good,

More frozen lesbian r34 porn for us.
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>>82468678
While I do read Elsa as gay, and I also would like to see LGBT characters in Disney films, I don't think Frozen's the best one to do it. I'd much rather them start fresh with a different film and set of characters. I wouldn't even have them announce that the princesses were gay prior. The best thing would be to just market like every other film and make people think that they're friends, show them gradually getting closer and have them kiss at the end, after the audience has gotten attached to them.
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>>82468678
I'd like that
I don't want to see a man cuck me
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>>82469469
Fuck off Tumblr
>As much as 25% of the population may be willing to "go gay" under certain circumstances
People are joking when they say this you autist.
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>>82468815
A fag hag is a woman who hangs around primarily with homosexuals, not a woman who is a homosexual
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>>82470457
Anna would be a total fag hag though, in a modern day story. I can see her wanting gay best friends as accessories
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>>82470406
Some are. Some aren't.

>Fuck off Tumblr

HA! As if tumblr would have me. I'm not nearly liberal/left extreme enough.
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>>82468678

Twitter being cancer like always. Disney will probably ignore them.
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>>82468678
>Finally a 15-30 female character in a disney movie who has an arc revolving around something other than finding a romantic partner.
>Proof that women can have stories that don't revolve around getting laid. I bet activists will be really happy tha-
>Everyone reads the fact that she didn't kiss a guy as evidence that she's gay.
>Everyone wants her to find a romantic partner in the sequel.

There's no greater hurdle to feminism than feminists.
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>>82468771
Or snatches, they're in on this too
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>>82470616
>>Finally a 15-30 female character in a disney movie who has an arc revolving around something other than finding a romantic partner.
Mulan already did this
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why does everyone want lesbians in everything these days.

They're so fucking tame and dull. It's always 'purest form of love' bullshit.
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>>82468678
Will not happen Disney wants money and they know they can't sell it to 1.2 billion muslims. and other people. What happens if she is straight or gets no bf? The same people will watch it.
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>>82470663
>Mulan already did this

The movie revolves around the relationship between her and the general, and in the sequel they're engaged.

They retroactively fucked it up.
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>>82469906
Mind giving me some source for that?
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>>82470737
Sauce
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>>82470741
What sequel? I don't remember any sequel anon.
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>>82469906
I'm all for lesbian porn, but there comes a time when you need those holes need to get something stuck into them.
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>>82469625
>overt lesbianism
>overt
>which isn't really shown
Might wanna reconsider your choice to use "overt" then.
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>>82468678
It will never happen. Alot of people don't want their children introduced to homosexuality before they can read
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>>82468678
Internet, please stop.

Please, I want you to stop.
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>>82470791
Yeah I mean I like lesbian love stories but the porn is worthless
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This is the mouse we're talking about here, Disney isn't gonna kowtow to a twitter campaign.
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Why exactly does everyone think Elsa is gay? Because she showed love towards her sister? I don't care about your vanilla fetishes, but please tell me you guys can separate platonic love from sexual lust.
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>>82471142
People think Elsa is gay because Let it go could be misconstrued as a gay anthem.
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>using the banner of progressive to justify your fanfictions
look, i aint got nothing against dykes and fags, just make a new princess instead of harping a popular one, that's cheap.
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I want to get off this socialist pandering ride
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>>82468815
>diabetes
U fucking wat
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>>82468815
You don't know half the words you're saying, do you?
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>>82471142
The internet can't differentiate from a well formed and tight friendship from actual lust. It just can't. How thirsty some people must be?
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Elsa is truly Built for Sex
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>>82468678
They kiss and parents ban their children from disney stuff. Disney comes under fire from the formerly silent majority, and young adults who feel the need to shave half their heads riot against parents.
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>everyone's asking for lesbian representation in mainstream media for children
>no one gives a damn about gay men
Fuck this gay Earth. Why is there such a bias for lesbians?
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>>82468678
You know, I kinda wish they make Elsa gay and Elsanna canon. Just to see where these people really stand on Toleranceâ„¢.
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>>82468763
>I'm all for gay rights

You are to blame, too, then. You and everyone who doesn't believe in slippery slopes.
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>>82472749
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>>82468678
Uhhg...not this tread again.
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>>82472749
Because they're hot.
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>>82472749
As was mentioned in another thread:

>Because lesbians conjure images of two statuesque women entwined, naked in each other's arms, their hair falling over each other's perfect skin as flower petals swirl around them and cover them, etc.
>Gay men make you think of a crooked penis entering a hairy butthole and coming out with a splosh of poop on it.
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>>82472749
Lesbians are the SUGAR that helps the LGBT medicine go down
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>>82472955

Exactly this
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>>82472749

Lesbians makes 75% straight man turn into 150% straight man.

Also, who doesnt want to see 2 hot woman kissing each other ? even most woman like lesbians
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>>82468678
>So are we getting a Disney lesbian kiss?

Not if they want to sell the movie in China.
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>>82468763
The 'problem' is that we've seen lots of 'straight stuff' in fiction. Now that homosexualism is kind of accepted, it's a whole new terrain for writers to thread upon. Also, gender identity is the hot topic of this decade.

That being said, can't a woman in fiction have a strong personality without being gay? And can't two women be friends without being secretly lesbians?
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I'm sure two crappy looking CGI girls in a badly animated kiss will make all those gaybashers realize that gays are people too. Or maybe all those morons clamoring for a LGBT princess can actually work for real progress for their cause in the real world. Fucking pathetic.
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>>82470593
True.
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>>82474493
>can't a woman in fiction have a strong personality without being gay? And can't two women be friends without being secretly lesbians?

You would think so but no. Not any more.
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>>82474692
It's the progressive recessive thinking:

>Anon, you're such a great friend to Anon, you're always toghether, going out and doing things. I bet you guys are gay, aren't you?
>No, he's just my friend.
>It's ok, Anon. It's 2016, y'know.
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>>82474878
These people have no understanding of basic human interaction.
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Glad, I'm not support this degeneracy.
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>>82469760
She didn't do anything to come off as straight or homosexual. She showed absolutely no form of sexual or romantic attraction to anyone or anything, and her deal was more in expressing familial love.

This means she's a blank slate and people can project whatever sexuality they want on her: she can apply to gay, straight or bisexual shipping or you can be free to speculate she may be asexual if that's your preference. That's why this movement has latched on to her: it's so rare to have a female protagonist never express any straight leanings at all, and so the people thirsty for lesbians can pounce on her and claim her as their own simply out of the absence of contrary evidence.

Personally, I'd rather respect whatever artistic vision the creators have/had for Elsa. If they kinda were thinking of hooking her up with a chick that's okay, but I feel like they sorta just wanted her to stay single like she did at the end of the movie. And I think having her remain single not only probably suits her better, but is a much better use of representation for a less recognized or approved of lifestyle choice than making her gay. Having her be asexual or even have a different sexuality but choose to remain single would be a much better progressive move than forcing a gay ship on her and reinforcing the idea that people can't be happy if they're not in a romantic relationship.
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>>82469777
>bunny
>lesbian

Probably doesn't happen very much. They are good at multiplying.
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>>82469469
The 10% number comes from the Kinsey studies which includes anyone who had an exclusive homosexual period lasting three years between the ages 16-55. Meaning a woman who had a phase in high school or college counts even if she went on to never engage in homosexual acts and got married and had kids.

Using it vastly overestimates the people who are exclusively homosexual in their adult life. The 3.5%-5% number is probably a better estimate of those people.
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>>82470521
I can see her doing that even within the franchise we already have. Arendelle is a fictional fantasy land populated by relatively modern thinking people who don't suffer any historical accuracy the makers don't want to include.
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>>82470741
>The movie revolves around the relationship between her and the general,
No it fucking doesn't. It revolves around her going to war to save her fucking country!
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>>82468678
Lesbian isn't enough. It can't be some random new female. It must be love for Anna.
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>>82475123
Lesbian doesn't equal not wanting kids or being incapable of having them. I'm sure they have IVF technology in Zootopia's world. Or she can adopt.
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>>82474878
>>82474692
Shipping is the greatest cancer.
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>>82469010

Google says John Lasseter.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Touching-Reason-Elsa-Was-Made-Hero-Frozen-67821.html

>Lasseter in particular pushed that Elsa's struggle--to accept an aspect of herself she cannot ignore and cannot change--could be a relatable narrative for kids. He was particularly inspired by his 10-year-old son Sam, who grew very frustrated when he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. To Sam, it seemed an unfair fate. Elsa's own story is one of affliction - not so much of her abilities to command ice and snow as of her fear that these things could injure her loved ones as they once injure little Anna.

Never knew this. Seems a tortured connection, but eh, the entire movie is torture for me.
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>>82475342
I think these studies actually underestimate the number of people who are gay or bi since many people have those feelings but are terrified to act on them. We may have to spend thousands of years of humanity not caring if you date or fuck someone of the same gender sometimes before we have any idea how high the percentage really is. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it one day turns out to be extremely high just because huamn sexuality is pretty multifaceted and flexible.

The animal species that most resembles ours sexually by far is the bonobo, and bonobos are bisexual. Take note that their bisexuality is not an evolutionary problem since they reproduce plenty, it's actually an adaptation that helps group cohension. And yeah plenty of other animals do same sex stuff too.

I was raised in a 100% secular household so I'm incapable of seeing this as a problem. People should be free to do what they like, there is no difference between a same sex and an opposite sex pair bond, and it doesn't impact oe effect me who other people are with. So who cares?
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>>82476776
The first part of your argument is conjecture. For thousands of years homosexuality has been an abnormality, and unless some radical social engineering happens, it will still be abnormal.

Animals also practice incest and cannibalism. Hardly a health indicator of anything.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18454-hippy-apes-caught-cannibalising-their-young/
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>>82476901
What's wrong with incest and cannibalism?
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Elsa/anna for life nigga

incest is wincest
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>>82477006
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>>82475342
>>82476776
The Kinsey study also had a terrible test sample, a huge chunk of it was prison inmates.

>"Hey guys, guess what ? My study here says that the ...*cough* ... 'average american citizen' ... *cough* is a huge sexual deviant, and if this doesn't sound familiar to your experience, it's just because they're repressed and hiding it ... (ant totally not because of the unusual amount of kiddie fiddlers in my test sample)"
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>>82477030
nvrmnd thats good too
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>>82470730
>they can't sell it to 1.2 billion muslims
They don't give a shit about them.
It's the chinese that matter.
Communist party still lists homosexuality as a mental disease warranting "treatment" in a re-education campgulag
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>>82474493
>And can't two women be friends without being secretly lesbians?

This is hard for them to do RL.

There sheer number of girlfriends I've had who, as soon as we shack up, reveal to me that they basically hate all their friends is almost incredible.
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>>82477062
It's all good
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>>82477092
I'm a man and I secretly hate all my friends.
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>>82476776
>>82476901
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>>82477092
nobody hates women like women hate women

seriously, anytime a woman is the only one in the room, all she does is complain about other girls its insane
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>>82476901
>For thousands of years homosexuality has been an abnormality

Tell that to the Greeks, the Romans, the Ottomans (yeah das right), the Chinese, the Japanese, the Babylonians, the Sumerians, etc etc etc. Even the fucking Norse had it going on.

For a long time, whether you were on top was a lot more important than whether you were gay or straight.
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>>82470730
>implying more than 10% of those muslims can afford to see a movie
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>>82472955
>>Because lesbians conjure images of two statuesque women entwined, naked in each other's arms, their hair falling over each other's perfect skin as flower petals swirl around them and cover them, etc.
as opposed to the horrific reality of two fat, spotty dykes with died hair and bad teeth and horribly nasal voices and daddy and entitlement issues

compared to irl lesbo's, i've seen waaaaaaaaaay more "statuesque" gay couples since gay men have tended to care more about what they look like
hence the gym/fit/ gay meme
skincare etc

real lesbos bring to mind poor hygiene and lack of care
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>>82476901
I've studied and read about that case before and don't see a problem with it, also the only recorded case of that happening. Actually I think it's interesting to ponder if it may be a precursor to endocannibalistic funery practices, which are a way to process grief and collectivly mourn. In this case the infant was already dead and the mother would not let the body go for days, probably because she was grieving. I am curious to know if it may have helped her to move on emotionally since it might explain why some human groups symbolically consumed family members after their deaths.

Your statement is also conjecture since we have no way of determining whether the taboo against same sex relationships is cultural. Some societies have been okay with the and others haven't. We may never know whether homo sapians accepted it for most of the species' existence or not! We do know it's not unusual in other animals or anything, and there's nothing to suggest it's maladaptive in humans to be bisexual to some degree.
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>>82472749

because lesbians are hot, every one can agree on that. Gay dudes being hot is debatable.
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No more politics. This is now an Elsa/Anna thread
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>>82477162
Today's orientation based sexuality would seem alien to them. Like a Roman senator would be like "you genuinely like men? Get out of here, fag" as they plow a slave boy's shithole into the next century
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>>82477162
And none of those cultures normalized homosexuality the way modern liberals are trying to. It was done by aristocrats in private.

>>82477188
Same Sex relationships have been pretty much universally condemned for thousands of years. Sure, homosexuality existed as an abnormality, but it was just that, abnormal.
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>>82477119
I tolerate one friend, but that's because his autism makes me look normal. I secretly hate my former best friend, but only because he was tolerable in middle-school and grew into a faggot. He became some huge moralfag somewhere along the line and he can't interact intellectually with anyone who conflicts his ideas at all. Getting him to play League of Legends was a mistake. Literally caused or worsened all the shit I don't like about him

>>82477141
I don't get it. Women are so unbelievably jealous of one another it's fucking unreal. At least when I'm jealous over shit it's worthwhile.

>>82472749
see >>82468848

>>82477239
>Gay dudes being hot is debatable.
Probably because men are entrenched in the no-homo thing. Even thinking another man looks good makes you gay, even in a totally platonic way.
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>>82477346
>homosexuality existed as an abnormality

We'll never know how often people in the past felt same-sex attraction or could have, so we'll never know how normal or abnormal it was. Some societies also condemned ANY sexual attraction as sinful and as a necessary evil only. Many societies also normalized slavery and torture while others were appalled by it.

I think in the end, these question we should ask is: does same-sex attraction harm anyone? We today consider slavery immoral despite it be encouraged and condoned for thousands of years because it harms and coerces individuals. So as a secular humanist, that is the only question I will ever ask about it.
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>>82468763
If you want to be progressive than cut it out with all the lesbians and make 2 gay MEN.

Lesbians are everywhere. It is hilarious how anyone even thinks lesbians should be called progressive these days.

To the feminists: do you get that it is only happening because the big bag "patriarchy" boogie man can wank to it? Also, do you you feminists see your own inherent sexism in how you always are crying for more muff munching, but shit on the strudel slappers?

I think I have seen 1 good representation of a pair of legit gay men, that were not presented as a joke, in media in the last few years, and it was on "Fear The Walking Dead" or all things....

Anyhow. I do hope Disney does not do this. If you want to make a Lesbian princess, go for it, but stop trying to appropriate preexisting characters for your progressive view of the world it is both annoying and pathetic.
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>>82476776
>I think these studies actually underestimate the number of people who are gay or bi since many people have those feelings but are terrified to act on them.
The 3.5%-5% come from self identification surveys IIRC and they include bisexuals. I don't think the stigma against homosexuality is so strong so as to discourage gays and lesbians from answering honestly on an anonymous survey.

The bisexual stigma does exist so perhaps the number of bisexuals in the country is a lot higher than we think but also remember that bisexual as treated by a guy like Kinsey and other psychologists is very broad. A person could classify as bisexual but almost never engage in physical intimacy with the same or different sex because their attraction to the other sex is so much more powerful. That is, they may possess some latent attraction to both sexes but in practice are exclusively heterosexual or homosexual.
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>>82477592
Is it really because of women that we're seeing more lesbians than gay guys in cartoons right now though? I actually thought it was because the male creators were uncomfortable with sausage rubbing. God knows the fujoshits won't shut up about how all their fag OTPs should be canon.
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>>82474493
>homosexualism
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>>82468763
>putting them in everything
I feel like you'd have more of an argument if there were a single gay Disney character.
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>>82473047
THIS
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>>82477162
>Tell that to the Greeks

Were overran within 100 years of homosexuality becoming remotely socially acceptable (but still massively, massively mocked).

>the Romans

Stoned homosexuals to death until the period of decline.

>the Ottomans

Homosexuality remained punishable by death under their law even when it was not observed at the worst times of their decadence.

By the way, as you might note from examples above, spread of homosexuality is strongly correlated to societal decay, demographic crunch and being crushed, conquered and humiliated in near future.

>the Japanese,

Homosexual = shit-poor loser with no money to support a woman.

>the Babylonians, the Sumerians

"Let's make shit up about sexual mores of people from which hardly more than names of kings survived".

>Even the fucking Norse had it going on.

I suppose that's why the accusation of homosexuality was one of the most vicious insults they could think of in the sagas.

The myth of homosexuality being normal and acceptable in other cultures is a myth.

>For a long time, whether you were on top was a lot more important than whether you were gay or straight.

That's because it IS a lot more important and most people throughout the time were sane enough to recognize that much. If you can still fuck females, resorting to males (or, say, donkeys) might just mean that you're down on your luck, or stuck at sea/prison/whatever. If you can only take it up the ass, you're permanently deficient.
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>>82477516
>We'll never know how often people in the past felt same-sex attraction or could have

Significantly less then heterosexual attractions.

>Some societies also condemned ANY sexual attraction as sinful and as a necessary evil only.

Name three.

>Many societies also normalized slavery and torture while others were appalled by it.

That's two different issues.

>these question we should ask is: does same-sex attraction harm anyone?

Given the social dysfunction and spread of STDs caused by homosexuals, you could make a convincing case that it does.

>>82477610
More conjecture. Homosexuals are treated like baby pandas by everyone these days. Refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, and the government sues you out of business.
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>>82468678

So this campaign is simultaneously advocating incest right? Because the only reason people think Elsa is a lesbian is because of her relationship with her sister.

And if so, they have my 100% support.
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>>82468771
>tfw straight but can't find lesbian sex hot at all

it's weird...but i need to see them being dicked
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>All this homosexual talk nonsense

Just admit it Lesbians is the best for your dick.
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Never watch frozen but isn't elsa and the red head sisters/related?

Do people want this for lesbians or incest...both?
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>>82477843
both nigga

both
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>>82477717
>I suppose that's why the accusation of homosexuality was one of the most vicious insults they could think of in the sagas.
rasragar
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>>82477749

Yes. And yes. See how far the SJW tolerance goes.
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>>82477717
>spread of homosexuality is strongly correlated to societal decay, demographic crunch and being crushed, conquered and humiliated in near future.
Makes me remember how I walked in on my sister watching Rent. She watched and other musicals a bunch because she was in theatre and liked musicals and shit. We got to the scene with La vie Boheme. First time I've seen this movie since I was like 10, and my only response was "What a bunch of fucking degenerates." Either what you said is right or I need to stop going on /pol/
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>>82477931

Best outcome.
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>>82477931
>Anna's face.
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>>82478002
Truly.
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>>82477727
>More conjecture. Homosexuals are treated like baby pandas by everyone these days. Refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding, and the government sues you out of business.
Its as much conjecture as your comment.

Besides, its not like you're disagreeing with what I said. I said the stigma is not enough to discourage gays from answering honestly on an anonymous survey which means the 3.5%-5% estimate based on surveys probably accurately tells us the number of gays and lesbians in the country. Since it also includes bisexuals the number is probably smaller too, I think its over 3% by a .1-.4

The stigma that exists is against bisexuals. For some reason gays people don't like them either since they, like some straight people, tend to think you have to be either homosexual or heterosexual. And so its possible there are a lot of bisexual people who don't come out and just stick to whatever sex they prefer. In truth it could even be that they have internalized the stigma and classify themselves as either or and just suppress and shrug off their attractions to their less preferred sex. Most bis have a strong preference one way or the other so it wouldn't be that hard

>>82477749
I think many of them want Elsa paired up with another Queen whose also brown for quadruple the progressive brownie points
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>>82478002
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>>82478090
get that shit outta here
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>>82477931
Why do I like this so much? I never knew I wanted such an outcome so badly until I saw it.
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>>82468678
Producers are probably fed up with this shit.
>"How can you show nudity in your children's cartoon! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
>"NOW SHOW US LESBIAN INCEST!"
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>>82477044
Yeah that too. Its going to be a lot more likely for you to engage in homosexual behavior for three years if you've been cut off from the opposite sex for three or more years completely.
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>>82478082
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>>82477717

Part of my graduate study involved research into this and amazingly everything you just said is bullshit you pulled out of your ass. There's no hard and fast rule or correlation between acceptance of homosexuality and society except that more prosperous societies tend to be more accepting of it. It is most likely immaterial. You are operating on base irrational emotion.
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>>82468763
>>82469469
It's more like 2%
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>>82468678

Pffft like Disney actually support this.

If Disney support this, they gonna lose that frozen money.

Just enjoy the porn, you people. Frozen is got the best & most r34 porn than all disney princesses porn combined.
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>>82478207
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please stop fighting lets talk about frozen
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>>82477635
That was part of his point.
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>>82478142

Because its objectively better.
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>>82478211
Disney could support a medium sized country with the amount of money they make in a year

i think they can risk it
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>>82478280
Disney would rather make more money than lose money. Capitalism!
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>>82478137

What ? dont like sfm ?

here's more sfm.
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>>82477162
>Norse

Let me call you out on your bullshit, dawg. http://etymonline.com/viking.php

Look man, I can also think that a guy is hot once in a while, but pretending homossexuality is the norm or that it's been socially accepted through the ages is just silly. Don't paint history the way you want it to be seen.
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>>82477172
>real lesbos bring to mind poor hygiene and lack of care

Makes sense. Women in regular relationships tend to fall into complacency, since their work is done. Putting two women together just doubles the laziness.
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>>82477785
I honestly have 0 attraction to lesbians.

No idea why any straight man would.

Lesbians = 0 chance of you having sex with them, which for me = 0 chance of me caring.

bisexual ladies on the other hand.....

lets give Elsa BOTH a Wife AND a Husband

wow we just went into progressive overload mode... unf muh dick.
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>>82477129
This is fantastic.
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>>82478223
>New Research says something provocative and politically charged that I projected onto it and not what the actual researchers say which is a lot more cautious and boring
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>>82478280

>>82478280

Look at all the recent Disney-owned movies.

they not gonna risk it
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>>82478382
Gotta love clickbait journalism
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>>82478187
Perfection beyond the most autistic levels of perfection.
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Remember it doesn't matter you who love, as long as you remember Elsa loves you
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>>82478082
>Its as much conjecture as your comment.

It's not conjecture, it's actually happening.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/28/sweet-cakes-by-melissa-pays-135000-fine-to-outraged-gay-couple/
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>>82478372
You are not wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_bed_death

Trigger warning: this study found something negative about a protected minority, therefore it has been reclassified as a "myth."
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>>82477592
>Also, do you you feminists see your own inherent sexism in how you always are crying for more muff munching, but shit on the strudel slappers?

You ask this question, even as gay men are getting booted out of the LGBT clique for not being oppressed enough.
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>>82470406
Less than 2% of the sex that happens in prison is rape.
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>>82478473
>breitbart
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This is by and large the single most autistic thread I've been on in months.
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>>82478520
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/29/sweetcakes-melissa-forks-over-135000-not-baking-ga/
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...oh well..
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>>82477069
Base China is base.
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>>82472749
Butt sex is gross.
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>>82476993
Objectively, nothing. But walk up to a stranger and try to eat them and then accuse them of bigotry when they refuse.
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>>82477717

/pol/ confuses me since the lowest approval rating for homosexuality currently is on the African continent while caucasian areas are the most accepting

higher IQ and level or education and income are also correlated with tolerance of homosexuality
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>>82477907
>SJW tolerance
Salon is already trying to push pedophilia acceptance, you think incest is going to graze them?
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>>82478589
/pol/ are fucking morons.

>FUCK ESSJAYDUBYAS, DEGENERATES AND WOMEN
>Also Sharia law is bad.
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>>82477635
Well, Rebecca Sugar is a hardcore fujo who used to draw smut and write slashfics of EEnE back in the day, and now she's heading a show about not-women having not-sex.
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>>82478589
>losing argument
>better accuse him of being from /pol/

And I see correlation is causation now?
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It's more delicious I'd say..
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>>82478589
>higher IQ and level or education and income are also correlated with tolerance of homosexuality
Is radical feminism and islamophilia also related to higher IQs?
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>>82478426
>>82478382
>>82478223
>>82478207
>>82469469
>>82468763

I love when people are forced to ignore the new LGBT statistics on Isarael's male population, that shows a total of A THIRD of the entire male population bein bisexual

It's almost like bigots are desperate...
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Normally I'd call you a faggot for posting a click-bait article, but I'm just here for the Elsanna.
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>>82478964
how many are gay?
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>>82468763

I love when people are forced to ignore the new LGBT statistics on Isarael's male population, that shows a total of A THIRD of the entire male population bein bisexual

It's almost like bigots are desperate...
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>>82478964
>Israel
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>>82468815

I love when bigots are so desperate that they're forced to ignore the obvious parallels between Elsa's situation and homosexuality.

Almost like you live in a SAFE SPACE, hypocrite...
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>>82478964
Isn't Israel a stratocracy as well?
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>>82478964
>Having distaste for click bait science "journalism" makes one a bigot
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>>82469006

>victimhood industry said unironically

How can you even interact with other people. Oh wait, you don't leave mommy's basement.
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>>82479015
Are you saying homos are frigid bitches?
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>>82479039
Listen and believe, anon. Listen and obey.
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>>82479015
>remember: if i sympathize with a character, she MUST be gay. otherwise you're a bigot. its not me.
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>>82475123

Adoption or in vitro are things, anon
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>it's magic I ain't gotta' explain babies

Dickgirl Elsa violently impregnating her sister would be kind of hot, though.
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>>82478987

+15%

>>82479060
>>82479039

>BWAAAAAA I CAN'T ACTUALLY ADDRESS SCIENCE IT MUST BE PROPAGANDA EXCEPT I CAN'T ACTUALLY BACK MY CLAIMS BAAWWWWW

Kill yourself. No one that desperate deserves to live.
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>>82479128
Shadman did it
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>>82479128
yes please
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>>82479138
Dude one survey does not a scientific standard make. Statistics do not work that way, and in today's society being skeptical of any number anyone gives you is entirely reasonable.

Was their math given out? Was it peer reviewed? Who paid for the survey? Like that's just asking the same basic questions you should when an ad says 4 out of 5 dentists recommend something.
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>>82479138
>What is immigration
>What are Jews promoting tel Aviv for fag tourist shekels.
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>>82479138
>a third of israeli men like it up their ass along with being pro-war, genocidal autocratic supremacists
>science

Sorry I don't feel much sympathy with your corrupt bizarro!nazi state, Chaim.
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>wuuh mummy my Disney cartoons aren't gay enough I'M BEING OPPRESSRD WHAT ABOUT ISRAEL
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>>82479216
I don't see the problem here. That's 66% lower than the American statistics.
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>>82479128
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>>82477646
>Pleakly and Jumba
>Timon and Pumba
>Ratcliff and his twink on Pochahontas

nigga please
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>>82479128

People seem to downplay the significance of the fact that Elsa can literally create SENTIENT LIFE with winter powers.
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>>82479138
>Not knowing what clickbait is and why some people would hate that shit

Here. Enjoy your (you) You earned it my friend.
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>no qt tipsy sister to take care of

FUCK.
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What is the friendship activity?

Is it cuddling?
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>>82479505
naw
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>>82479569

I can't read moon language, anon.
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>>82479569
Sucking the venom from a snake bite?
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>>82479591
shes wondering why she has to eat the cherry popsicle like that
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>>82470038
that's incest you idiot
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All I'm getting from this is that little girls love this Frozen movie, so lesbians try their damn hardest to force their particular attempt at sexuality into it in the hopes of turning said little girls gay so they can easily molest them.
VERY progressive obviously but can't help but wonder if this is really where society should be headed.
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>>82479628
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>>82479569

Too me a moment to understand what was happening, here.
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>>82479505

Of course not, you lewd fuck.
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>>82479670
He's not wrong about tumblrinas wanting to indenture girls into feminism as early and quickly as possible.
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ITT: People actually think lesbian couples look as good as the Elsa Anna ship.
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>>82479205

It is peer reviwed and consistently accepted by psychologists.

Also, that's quite the goalshifting.

>>82479206
>>82479216

Goalshifting. How desperate

>>82479388
>forced to dismiss peer reviwed studies as "click bait"

How sad.
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>>82479628
>Lesbians=molesting pink haired angry misandrists
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>>82479714

Says the pedophile bigot
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>>82479756
Are you going to try to tell me that those people aren't extremely likely sexual predators?
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>>82479734
I don't give a shit about your fucking survey about Israel you moron. I'm talking about clickbait culture coming up with dumb outlandish titles and misconstruing what people say in a surefire way to generate clicks.
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>>82479801
As opposed to currently active sexual predators, i.e. people on 4chan?
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>>82478350
>>82477717
>>82478894
>>82476901

Muh appeal to popularity. Almost like bigots are desperate...
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>tfw when you'll never be Elsa's personal servant boy ordered to care for her every need
>tfw when you'll never have to bath her, cleaning her back and legs
>tfw when you'll never help her dress and sneak a peak of her breasts
>tfw when she'll never reward you with a kiss on the cheek for all your hard word
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>>82476901

Classical goalshifting.
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>>82479862
>boy
>not girl
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>>82468678
I don't really care if she's written as a lesbian as long as it's well written and not forced on every scene
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>>82477758
I'm the opposite, i don't really see the appeal of some other guy getting lucky
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http://www.advocate.com/bisexuality/2015/08/18/study-half-british-young-adults-not-100-percent-heterosexual

But please go on with your appeal to popularity. It makes bigots look more desperate...
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>>82479844
Stop trying to use phrases you don't understand.
>>
Fuck /co/, look, there is litterally no point engaging with /pol/. They are one of three things:

1. Trolls who just want to get a rise out of people who might not actually believe what they spout (the biggest group, this is 4chan)

2. Hysterical shut-ins on their period who will not pay attention to empirical evidence or logic since reality is dictated by their feelz and pure emotion

3. Paranoid schizophrenics who think the lizard people are listening to them through their teeth

Just ignore them retards.
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>>82479887
/ss/ nigga
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>>82468763

Yawn:

http://www.advocate.com/bisexuality/2015/08/18/study-half-british-young-adults-not-100-percent-heterosexual
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>>82476901
>Abnormal
You mean like sitting at a computer all day?

You know who else behaved abnormally?

Hitler.
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>>82479915
But they're calling us bigots! That makes them right!
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>>82471279
>>82471142

I guess you haven't watched the movie. Either that or bigots are clinically morons.
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>>82479940
You really should stop posting the same links twice. You sound like a broken record.
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whats the post limit again?
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>>82479624
Did you even read his post?
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>>82479915
>>82479942

>Literally uses appeal to popularity
>Y-you don't know what that means BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

It's embarassing how you lack a spine.
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>>82479843
>4chan
>having sex

Know your audience, señorita tumblrina.
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Elsa won't be a faggot. Screenshot this post.
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>>82471443
>egalitarian
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>Else didn't kiss a guy
>She must be GAY!!!!
Way to want to approve stereotypes true, Tumblr.
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>>82470038
I would love that just to see internet outrage, would be funny.
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>>82479982
Post where exactly that happened. We're waiting.
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>>82479969

You should stop trying to evade like a coward. You sound like you can't reason.
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>>82480019

>whines that gays are a minority, ergo cannot be represented
>doesn't see the appeal to popularity
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>>82479969
These philosophies can reasonably expected to be in place for the rest of your natural life. Regardless of one's opinion on this shit, things do not change that quickly. Have fun feeling super smart and smug when you're in the ground
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>>82480008
"It's not sexism when WE do it."

t. tumblr
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>>82479964
Please post screenshots proving their sexual (read:PHYSICAL) attraction to one another.
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>>82478964
>>82479015
>>82479760
>>82479844
>>82479911
>>82479964
>Consistently regurgitating "bigot" at every possible chance

If you're going to shitpost, you need to use multiple instigation tactics. If you just repeat one inflammatory word over and over again, it'll give away you don't know any other ways of stirring shit.
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>>82479969

>fails to see that virtually every human civilisation has more or less progressed toward sliberal values under optimal conditions
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>>82469469
No homo but I'd let Chris Evans ravish me under a full moon near the sea until I fall asleep in his arms

no homo, though
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>>82480057

Nice try, but Elsa is pretty obviously a metaphor for homosexuality and social repercussions.
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>>82479940
>the article doesn't bother to tell us how many people replied to the survey

haha not even once
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>>82479982
I just said that you just keeping crying and calling us bigots like it's going to do anything
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>>82480037
>>whines that gays are a minority, ergo cannot be represented
I'll take shit that didn't happen for $500.
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>>82480037
If we are generous and just agree that 10% of any population is gay, and if we make it an imperative that every work of fiction represent this gay percentage because something something, then if per every 10 characters in a story, one is not straight, that's enough representation.
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>>82480121

And I just said that your "argument" is shit. Point, besides being a coward?
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>>82480073
Which is exactly why every civilization is exactly the same, bastions of liberalism and egalitarianism.
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>>82480073

Not wanting to culturally appropriate and see race and gender as real is basically non-existent in history.

you have to be real pampered before anybody gets to those ideas
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>>82480073
Those are called economic bubbles.
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>>82480137

I take it you've missed the previous studies mentioned.
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>>82471142
because they read a metaphor about sexuality into the plot of elsa trying to control her powers and confused subtext for text
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>>82479071
Neither one makes you good at multiplying.
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>>82480114

See source within the article.
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>>82480104
If it's "obvious" then you can easily post screenshots or dialogue proving it.
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>>82479988
I'm afraid pictures still count, and /b/ has plenty
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>>82480150
My argument that you're a dumbass who thinks they're some master troll by linking some articles and yelling BIGOT is well supported
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>>82480104
>girl flees from home, abandons her orphaned young sister, shirks her duties as queen, goes full hikkikomori and plunges the land into an ice age.

Do homosexuals do this? Because if that's the case, this summer sun right now must mean there's not a single homo in a hundred leagues about.
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dont bother with this thread boys
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>>82477030
Can I get more of this?
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>>82480225
Unless people stick their penises into their computer screens, no, it doesn't.
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>>82480156

All civilisations have moved towards more humanitarian viewpoints as they have developed. Not at the same rate, but things like societal equality, socialism and racial tolerance are historically correlated to progress.

>>82480170

Nice strawman

>>82480171

?
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>>82479716
no joke I personally know 2 lesbian couples that are all 4 gorgeous. Totally serious

I also had this huge crush on an older guy my Junior year who turned out to have a hotass gf.

They do exist
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>>82480251

So you don't know what "troll" means. How sad, but not unexpected.

>>82480266

Nice strawman. I take it "metaphor" is a concept alien to the inalphabet
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>>82480100
rest in peace, anon
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>>82480301
It's so great that socialist countries like China and Zimbabwe are utopias and that your definition of progress is the universally accepted one.
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>>82480403
I don't understand why all the Annas.
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PROTIP: even if she's a lesbian, she'll marry a man and bear his children so whatever-their-fairytale-realm-is-called has a proper heir. Look up Edward II why don't you.
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>>82480301
>?
Like one anon said long ago, feminists and liberals can only exist in times of prosperity and luxury. Once the elite has gazed upon their navels long enough, they find their wealth cloying, but, ah, they won't get rid of it or donate it to the poor, so they take up the liberal mantel and start spouting liberal rhetoric over and over as a way of atoning for their sin of being rich and well-to-do.

As a third-world "Pea O'Sea" anon, I find this whole Social Justice fad infesting the first world both amusing and sad.

>>82480328
>inalphabet
It doesn't work like that, Familienmitglied.
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>>82479941
Finest example of Tumblr logic

>OMG LITERALLY HITLER
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>>82480051
>Regardless of one's opinion on this shit, things do not change that quickly.
Like how fast the gay 'acceptance' happened and how they immediately moved to trannies?

>>82480073
>fails to see that virtually every human civilisation has more or less progressed toward sliberal values under optimal conditions
>right before they crash and burn
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>>82480531
Not necessarily.
Shoe could declare Anna's eventual child the heir to the throne.
In the real world, she might have to adopt the child, but it's not impossible.

Or are we operating by Fisher King rules?
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>How can I possibly be happy about my sexual orientation and my legal right to marry whoever I want if the Disney company won't confirm to me that the cartoon character who I, for some unspecified reason, strongly believe is gay is indeed gay?

I genuinely feel sorry for who ever has led a life sad enough for their daily thought process to come to this. No seriously. I'm not even making fun of you. I think you're wrong, but I'm sorry.
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There's more ex-gays than gays, so.. maybe we should have characters reference a weird phase that they consider a mistake now they've moved on. Y'know. To be representative of everyone, I mean.

This happens all the time. Gays actively and aggressively try to seduce straight people all the time, telling themselves that everyone is secretly gay and repressed, and yet they take offense when someone suggest they could be turned straight back. Oh, the hypocrisy.
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>>82480666
Number of the Beast trips confirms the absolute truth.
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How would Elsa even be a lesbian?
She locked herself for years(not sure) then suddenly a lesbian? I can understand if its her sister but to a random one?
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>>82480666
Sad thing is, my dear fallen angel, is that most of the people campaigning for this are well to do white heterosexual liberal kids who want Frozen to be "progressive" so they can say "look, I like a series about a lesbian! I am such a good person, helping the poor little faggots i mean gay children."
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>>82468678
>I'm worried the interbutt can't handle the strain with the current infrastructure
Internet is a dam against meme magic flooding the real world. Disney denying this happening is only putting their finger in the leaky dike... Shut up.
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>>82480666
I have come across people who say unironically they feel they need to see "PoC"s in their cartoons and series because Muh Relatability.

I don't know. I suppose that when you have an easy and cozy life, the next thing you do is complain about fictional stuff.
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>>82480591
A civilization has never thrived on liberal beliefs. Promoting traditional values, a strong government and work does that. An appreciation of the history and identity of your own people, patriotism, also.

Liberalism has only ever served as a tool to debilitate a civilization from within. The outside agents (other nations) that promote such liberalism are typically conservative nations themselves.

The U.S and how it has intervened in the internal affairs of other countries since the XIX century is a good example.
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>>82480769
This.

I'd be down for a lesbian princess, but I hate the idea of the tumblrites feeling content even for a second.
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>>82478964
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Can we stop talking about shitty politics and post cute incest lesbian princesses?
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>>82481672
>lesbian princesses
But why would the royal family not kill their verboten daughter if she doesn't provide the tiny humans to sacrifice to the elder gods so they don't all go insane?
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>>82479940
>"Clearly, these figures are not measures of active bisexuality - overall, 89 percent of the population describes themselves as heterosexual - but putting yourself at level one allows for the possibility of homosexual feelings and experiences," researchers wrote. "More than anything, it indicates an increasingly open minded approach to sexuality."
>overall, 89 percent of the population describes themselves as heterosexual

And when you look at the young adult group in the survey you see that 74% of the respondents had never had a sexual experience with a member of the opposite sex. So maybe they're not entirely ruling out the possibility but they certainly aren't engaging in non-heterosexual acts for the most part.
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>>82481745
Because it's better the realize that the gods care nothing about our measly existence and to engage in hedonism and debauchery
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>>82479138
>Kill yourself. No one that desperate deserves to live.

That's not very tolerant of you, anon. Think of others' feelings and triggers, please.
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>>82481171
The gif with the reddening nose is funnier.
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>>82480672
Fun fact: There are people who were mad when Sara from Arrow was sleeping with a man after coming back to Starling City
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>>82478187
Now I see why gay dudes get turned off when I tell them I like girls, too.
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>>82481672
>homosexual parents make children somehow
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>>82479734
>It is peer reviwed and consistently accepted by psychologists.
>Also, that's quite the goalshifting.

Stop dodging the question. WHO reviewed it? WHO was it paid for? If you're going to bring up an argeument, at least have facts and citations to back it up
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>>82480666
Yeah, I'm gay and I don't get it. Personally, I wouldn't mind a cartoon or show with one but I want it to feel organic and not stereotypical fucking LGBT movie 9821. But the movies I want aren't for kids and I don't think there's a reason to have a gay character other than for gay kids who realize they're different early on rather than teenage years.

>>82480672
>There are are more ex-gays than gays
There really aren't unless you mean college lesbians which honestly aren't all that lesbian. Personally, I like guys who "act straight" but I'd never aggressively hit on one. Though there are a few it's not really the norm.
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>>82479940
reminder an even bigger number of these same people would tell you they had sexual thoughts about lil girls but no one will ever say most people are pedos
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>female characters as leads
>niggers
>faggots
Am I the only person that drops series when this happens?
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>>82479862
>she will never give a nice cool hug on a hot summer day
kill me
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>>82482528
No, there are plenty of assholes in the world, Heinrich.
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>>82482695
It's Goebbels, actually.
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>>82482528

no, me too D R O P P E D

also if characters are

>atheists
>mudslimes
>Jews
>old shits aka drains on society
>poor or middle class vermin
>second or third world filth
>Catholic scum

why is media today so degenerate?
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>>82480795
>An appreciation of the history and identity of your own people, patriotism, also.

RRRREEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>82482371
She learned to colorize her snowpeople.
>>82480726
Technically she can be anything. She wouldn't know, she hasn't seen anyone but her sister, her parents, and a select few of the help.
Elsa developed a fetish for obese old men because that's the only kind of man around her
>>82482323
Those guys sound like total fags.
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Hey /pol/, go check under your bed, Da Jewz are hiding under there watching you really they're gonna get you.

We'll wait while you go check hurry.
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>All Disney movies are about princesses
>None of them get married off at 12-15 and get raped at their wedding day
DROPPED
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How come they haven't made a cute prince movie yet?
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>>82483534
But how can they go check under their bed when they're RIGHT BEHIND YOU!
>>82483567
Princes don't appeal to their demographic. Best you can hope for is a movie where the Princess is the supporting character and the young male lead becomes Prince by the end.
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>>82468678
>wanting to ruin the purist Disney waifu
I can't ree harder enough. Fags need to be shoah'd
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>>82483646
Implying a cute prince movie wouldn't make at least a billion dollars. I'm tired of princesses.
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>>82468678
>tfw modern family sizes are so small that tumblritas can't fathom sisterly love
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>>82483567
>None of them get married off at 12-15 and get raped at their wedding day

Well the raped on their wedding day thing would happen (sometimes double raped since both prince and princess were being forced into it after all) but average marriage age was more like 17 for aristocrats during the Middle Ages, girls didn't go through puberty until a lot later back then then they do now.

Although with royalty yeah sometimes you had two kids officially/technically married to each other as toddlers or something for political reasons but then they didn't actually go live with their spouse or have sex until much later again maybe late teens. Not that there were never exceptions for the Romeo and Juliet shit was weird even back in Shakespeare's time.
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>>82468678
I hope they do go with this.
Because four things will happen

1.Frozen and that "let it go" song will get NO MORE PLAY on the air. I don't care how much pull Disney has that shit is over

2.Walmart will be pressured by the consumers to pull all frozen everything.

3.All frozen media pushed indirectly by fans and people looking to capitalize on it will all but stop and start being pulled. IE youtube videos are done.

4.It will become a "You're singing let it go, that means you're gay" joke on school yards.
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>>82483887
>It will become a "You're singing let it go, that means you're gay" joke on school yards.

Eh I've been a teacher for ten years and at least the places I've worked I just never hear kids make fun of each other with the "you're gay" bit anymore. I guess that's outdated and old-fashioned where I've been. Even when they're generally little shits kids especially the younger ones just don't care if people are gay anymore.
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>>82468678
Don't do it Disney.
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>>82484024
No, they still do that.
As a matter of fact, with homosexuality being pushed far more in media and social sights kids are more aware of it. You know the whole thing in media where people tried to stop the whole "that's gay" and "no homo" thing? It's not a joke anymore they'll just call the person a homosexual and the parents and older kids who they want to emulate are now more aware of it and have a major backlash against it being pushed so hard on them in most media.

Where is this enlightened place where they don't make fun of homosexuals or use homosexual as an insult?
Christ even gays use it as an insult.
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>>82484229
They won't. They can't without losng tons of money.
"Oh so progressive" points and empowering a few gay kids isn't worth alienating millions potentially billions of people. Ontop of homophobic Americans who wouldn't want to expose their kids to a gay role model there are tons of foreign markets that would literally refuse to let this be shown to their public.
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>>82484260
>Where is this enlightened place where they don't make fun of homosexuals or use homosexual as an insult?

I've taught in a bunch of states. I hear "retard" all the time and racial slurs but not the gay thing. Actually when I overhear kids talk about it it's usually just to say they don't see what the big deal is, like some say it seems gross but don't understand why people used to think gays shouldn't get married. They're also way more cool with the trans thing then I'd think they would be.

I was surprised too, not what I expected at all.

I haven't found kids have any ideas about there being some sort of political media agenda, I think that's something adults or at the youngest college kids talk about. I think this is a genuine generational shift where many young kids no longer see being gay as a problem, and again, I was shocked because they're cruel jerks about plenty of other shit, and not enlightened at all.
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>>82468678
>she's gay!
>not ace-master-race
I mean, there's literally no indication she's into women or men, so...
or maybe she's into scalies
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>>82484457
Yeah, but once they get away from media and the like..they start to actually think for themselves and start forming real oppinions.
You know the utter clusterfuck of fucked up people on tumbler and "bisexuals" that are around now?
Yeah they are the first generation who was reared on that way of thinking and people are both making fun of them and think a chunk of them are just losers.

The "that's gay" backlash and "no homo" thing?
That was a way for the current teen gen to deal with it and assert their heterosexuality without overt homophobia.

But that's no longer the case anymore. Them making Elsa gay will basically put the entire movie in light that will force it to be dissected by the media and other social and political leaders.

Disney will be utterly savaged by the public and they'll see real losses in profit from this.
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Shipping has gone too far
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>>82484662

To be honest man I think you're saying what you wish were true. A lot of the kids I'm talking about have never heard of tumblr, they mostly just don't seem to see other people being gay as anyone's business anymore, that's all. I don't think in general they see including gay characters as something to be applauded either, they're just really indifferent about it from what I've seen and heard.

Attitudes have shifted really quickly on this issue I think that's all and they've picked up on the newer attitudes, even the Church kids don't seem to see a problem with being gay any more in general, or I should say with others being gay. Like I said some say it's yucky but they just don't seem to think of it as their business what other people do in that area. Again just my impressions but this is what I've picked up from thousands of kids over a decade and the more time goes on and the younger the kids the less they seem to care if somebody is gay or not.
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>>82474493
>hat being said, can't a woman in fiction have a strong personality without being gay? And can't two women be friends without being secretly lesbians?
In real life sure, on tv hell no. And that's not even from fetishists either. People demands that any two female friends be lesbian no matter what.
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>>82484660
this isn't even good but i haven't jerked off today so it made me want to jerk off to some good elsa porn
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I feel like you could only suggest this if you refuse to think about it for a second. This would immediately open Disney accusations from Bibletown USA "concerned" "parents" that the first movie was about incest.

Tumblr is really poisoning the well with this one, they really could not have picked a worse franchise to stick their fingers into. They're obviously not getting this one and nobody is going to listen to them next time. They're going to be stuck asking Disney to make the main character gay for all future movies exactly like everyone thinks they already want instead of just one.

I'm actually kind of on their side. At least one openly gay character would be cool but thanks a lot tumblr you fucked it up for yourselves.
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I'm sure all those 5-12 year old girls are clamoring for a lesbian princess. All these college students need to get their hands out of shit that isn't made for them. Time for them to start worrying about adult shit
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>>82470663
And yet it doesn't get any credit for it since she hooked up with a guy at the end and lived happily ever after with him.

Pity.
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>>82484799
>To be honest man I think you're saying what you wish were true
Same back to you. Kids don't give a fuck about anybody's feelings and basically lack empathy.
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>>82484965
>Time for them to start worrying about adult shit
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>>82484799
You're not a teacher.
And my point has nothing to do with kids know ing about tumblr and everything about late teens mid twenty year olds knowing about it.

And kids are picking up on adults and teens in the real world being unhappy with it and not accepting it.

But okay. Your multiple schools across the country that you taught at? I guess you're right.
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>>82485015
What is this image supposed to convey in this context?
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>>82485015
/co/ is a den of degenerates masturbating to children's cartoons but at least they have the decency of not trying to push a retarded agenda for their own satisfaction.
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I don't follow this crap anymore than I can help, and I barely care, but I thought not-Ice Queen was her sister. They won't do canon lesbo sisters in the US, as fine with that as I'd be. And if they can't do the big ship, they won't bother.
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>>82484965
"Adult" means nothing nowadays.
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>>82484908
Pretty much if there's ever going to be a gay princess they're not going to do it with one of their biggest franchises. They're going to create a new property and adjust the marketing and distribution for a realistic projection so they don't waste a ton of money on a product a lot of people would refuse to see.
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>>82484662
>implying bisexuality is a made up tumblr thing.
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>>82485102
My point is that the majority of the people complaining about this are not the target demographic, and I'd venture to guess that most of them don't even have children. They don't have any stake in this other than they don't want to grow up.
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>>82485170
>They don't have any stake in this other than they don't want to grow up.
>they don't want to grow up
That's what I meant.
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>>82485202
I hear you anon, and I agree. It's a sad state of affairs
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>>82485064
>You're not a teacher. Your multiple schools across the country that you taught at? I guess you're right.

I am a teacher, there's a bunch of us on here, not really something to brag about, is it?

Am I "right?" I'm just sharing anecdotes. I'm not making a moral judgement or presenting a formal study. Like a said, I was surprised by it. Not so much enlightened kids as just kids who don't seem to care.

Here's a study about changing attitudes towards gay marriage though:

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/07/29/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/

Things have just changed really quickly. That's not really about tumblr. Part of it is just people becoming more secular but like I said I was actually kinda shocked by how many of the super Christian kids support gay marriage now. So I'm not quite sure why it is.
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>>82485151
No you fucking tard.
More people claim "bisexual" when they are little more then retards who're following the trend of fucking the same sex as a proof of how cool and hip they are
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>>82469006
>I think it's the victimhood industry
The irony here is staggering
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>>82485263
>claim "bisexual" when they are little more then retards who're following the trend
To expand, claiming bisexual is an easy way to cash in on oppression and snowflake points without actually needing to put out on the whole gay bit.
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>>82483567
>raped at their wedding day

Literally impossible.
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>>82485249
uh huh...
It comes from constantly manipulating media and pushing homosex.
There's a reason katy perry's i kissed a girl is so popular and that crappy just met you song was pushed as a top ten.

Homosex pushing. The songs themselves were shit and the singers garbage. But they wanted to push a message.
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>>82484908
I cannot imagine there will ever be a lesbian Disney Princess. It would be inaccurate in any premodern setting, poor business sense because children can be sexist/racist/whateverest as fuck, & the idea of a gay royal, a rather unusual pairing of unorthodox love in a very set-in-their-ways heir inheritance aspect of royalty blend as well as water & oil.
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>>82485249

The big takeway is 70% of Millenials now support gay marriage.
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>>82485414

Is it Da Jewz /pol/ anon? It's Da Jewz, isn't it?
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>>82468678
Oh no...! She can possibly girls instead guys. Quick shield shield the childerns eyes, but not when a straight couple is being romantic and making out in a Disney movie. Then you would have explain it before you meet an actual gay couple.
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>>82485429
It's not like they've ever cared about being accurate.
>>82485613
Well of course it's the Jews. how couldn't it be the Jews? They run 99% of media, that's not even a conspiracy to say if something happens in the media a jew probably has a finger in that pie.
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>>82485642
Don't worry, she won't be.
So no need to be alarmed or shield the children.
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>>82477097
Are they blind?
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>>82485697
They're possessed.
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>frony faggot image spamming to bust/bump thread
It's like im back into those cancerous generals all over again! Hang yourself, frac, you fucking cunt. Just fucking do it!
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>>82485697
Probably. Blind girls are moe.
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>>82478964
Why do you think the gay problem in other countries is relevant? I should have been more specific. Two percent of AMERICA is gay. You know, the only country that matters?
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>>82485659

Tell me again about Da Jewz Master Evil Plan /pol/. Those brilliant superhuman superior bastards!
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>>82485429
>the idea of a gay royal, a rather unusual pairing of unorthodox love in a very set-in-their-ways heir inheritance aspect of royalty blend as well as water & oil

God forbid a movie have some kind of conflict.

I really don't buy any of these arguments and I'd put money on Disney caving to the pressure within 5 years. They just don't understand that it's not going to help them at all. The absolute worst thing you can do with tumblr or twitter is attempt to give them exactly what they want. They will turn on Disney so fucking fast and with a ferocity they are not prepared for. It happens every time.
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>>82485782

Wait a minute...
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>>82485790
No master plan, they're just in control of most media. Why are you acting like this is a secret?
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It's feminists I hate the most. They push their stupid agenda on everything. Look up Dragon Age Inquisition and see what happened to that game compared to their earlier games. They had some gay characters before but in DAI it was only le BBQ characters and it just doesn't make any sense. If everything is diverse in stories,, how is it supposed to work as a story? If every character is gay, trans, pansexual, or whatever they call it, then every character are just token characters. I'm supposed to believe everything in this game world is gay? They don't even want to create these stories themselves, they ask others to do it for them.
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If the only female she loves is her sister, then to reveal she's lesbian also reveals the movies are about incest. lol
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And take away the only Disney Princess who single people could identify with? Doesn't sound very progressive.
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>>82485865
Someone left the gamer gate open.
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>>82486002
I don't even know what it is, honestly. It was the only example I could think of.
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>>82483567
>How come they haven't made a cute prince movie yet?
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>>82485414
There's nothing inherently gay about Call Me Maybe, anon. I mean, if you like it you're clearly a huge faggot, but that's not a characteristic of the song itself.
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>>82479015
>>82471260
>>82471210

Why are you all running off at the mouth, anon is right a simple google search shows it.
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>>82486002
>a board in 4chan intended to cover topics about western media for young adults
>shares some of the behaviors and ideologies of the community that gives rise to that media
>/co/ being tumblur-esque is not just a meme


A SHOCKING CONCLUSION: This individual is possibly/likely not using the term "gamer gate" ironically or sarcastically.
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>>82479940
>Yawn
Nice blog, now go take your nap.

>>82478666
>Since it also includes bisexuals the number is probably smaller too, I think its over 3% by a .1-.4

>The stigma that exists is against bisexuals. For some reason gays people don't like them either since they, like some straight people, tend to think you have to be either homosexual or heterosexual.

Truth, in the US over half of the 3.5-5% figure is bisexuals. The 10% or 20% figures people throw around are including the mostly-straight people who've experimented and shit.

But certain people like to pretend the 5% or 10% is all gays and throw the bis and bicurious under the bus, even though they're really the majority (of the minority).
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>>82477030
Jane makes any pairing great
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Do you think Frozen would have been half as popular if it had featured two black chicks?
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>>82487799
lol no
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>>82468763
It's more like 50%
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>>82472749
Lesbians are easier to pull off in media because men rule the world and men tend to find it arousing. Getting a lesbian couple canon or implied on even a kids show nowadays is fucking nothing.
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>>82487965
They still can't even kiss
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>>82488169
Pretty sure they can, they're just too afraid to fucking try it though for whatever reason.

Even Bryke said the only reason they didnt make Korrasami happen earlier is because they simply thought they werent allowed to.
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>>82487965
Hot skinnimax lesbians who have no problem with getting fucked raw or threesome with the occasional man.
Not actual lesbians.
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>>82488274
Just the fantasy is enough for them.
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>>82488218
No it's because it was a last minute attempt to push the show as something it wasn't to losers in certain places in media.

The fact that they changed korra and assami physically so that korra wasn't the typical masculine lesbian and assami into an older looking fem lesbian who towered over her AND the porn(which they probably had a hand in)showed her as the sub/bitch/fem in their lipstick lesbian femdom scenarios.

Even now, they're bullshitting about with bi rumors on random sites that talk about tv shows and what not.

>>82488365
Real world men, not the perma adolescent cartoon men that appear in media who instantly drop trou at the mere notion of two chicks holding hands.
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>>82488400
Yes and i dont even know what you're trying to say anymore.
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>>82476776
Pre-agricultural human families were also way smaller than bonobo families and had set roles without the need of rampant buttfucking.

We're more likely to return to poligamy as male numbers dwindle than become 80%+ bisexual.
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>>82477162
"a cat is fine too" doesn't mean a cat is fine at all you creep.
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>>82480769
You've gone so full retard you're mixing up your own buzzwords
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>>82477349
>I don't get it. Women are so unbelievably jealous of one another it's fucking unreal. At least when I'm jealous over shit it's worthwhile.
If you were too lazy to support yourself for the rest of your life, had a chance to make someone else cater to your every need and support you till death (or lawyers) do you part, and your best chance to get that someone was barely 7 years long, you'd also hate every other competitor to death.

They also suffer intense, ego-driven monomania. It's why they hate video games, sports, our male friends, our pets, other women real of fictional, the fucking job we do to bring the bread home and anything at all that takes our absolute undivided attention from them.
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>>82488504
Korra's change away from her original masculine look and even nature towards her more feminine and smaller stature coincided with asami becoming taller and looking older.
RIGHT WHEN they made them both big old lesbians.
They wanted them gay but they didn't want realistic, they wanted porn lesbians.
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>>82469841
that's actually stupid though, asexuals aren't real
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>>82468678

Normally these people don't phase me, but that they got the point of the story THIS WRONG is genuniely making me upset.

TRUE LOVE CAN MEAN THE BOND BETWEEN FAMILY; LIKE HOW ELSA AND ANNA WERE THE ONLY FAMILY EACH OTHER HAD AFTER THEIR PARENTS DIED. YOU FAGGOTS WOULDN'T KNOW BECAUSE YOUR OWN SENPAITACHI SHUNNED YOU!
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>>82488931
Why bother with real when the ideal is what's most commonly presented all the time?

Like seriously the only "real" lesbians we've gotten are those two moms from Clarence.
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>>82488365
Uh...no.
See, the whole two chicks is the hottest shit ever I don't even need to join thing? That is something that is mostly pushed by media and lesbians.
It's a fiction.

In reality men KNOW that lesbians are all about other lesbians or whatever chick they can get into bed. We see them as either gross and something to be ignored if they aren't doing it for our enjoyment or competition to be stomped out or destroyed at worst.
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>>82488931

WTF are you talking about? Asami always has been taller than Korra.

And they didn't tone down Korra's musculature at all.

S3 and S4 have many scenes that focus on her beefy arms In loving detail.
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>>82478666
>pol disagrees with feminism AND believes in the rule of law!
>those assholes
every time
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>>82489037
Uhh..... yes....

You can believe that all you want but it doesnt change that it's out there or that it's a significant amount of porn search data. You can rearrange and connect the dots in different ways all you want but it doesnt make it fact.
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>>82488931
You dont seriously believe that Asami was suddenly made taller at the end of the show for that reason do you? Asami has always been taller and Korra is still pretty muscular.
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>>82478589
>higher IQ and level or education and income are also correlated with tolerance of homosexuality
You are aware IQ doesn't measure intelligence, right?
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>>82484660
Why is Dio surrounded by these Disney characters.
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>>82489030
We've actually gotten a lot more realistic looking and acting lesbians. Problem is that men were put off and women were skeeved out.

>>82489167
No, not at all.
They really went to town on their differences and pushed that along with the porn instantly reflecting that in the final season.
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>>82480301
>All civilisations have moved towards more humanitarian viewpoints as they have developed. Not at the same rate, but things like societal equality, socialism and racial tolerance are historically correlated to progress.
And quickly crumbled afterwards.

Liberalism destroys nations, if that what you want of America?
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>>82469469

Ancient Greece and basically every ancient civilization with an army supports this.

It's only gay if you're the one being fucked.
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>>82489128
Hot straight chicks(and the occasional dyke who can pass for straight/is hot) doing it for male entertainment =/= lesbians.

If it really was all about sprouting rape boners over lesbians for merely existing then the more cagey lesbian stuff aimed at lesbians would actually be selling and not failing miserably.
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>>82489037
So all the lesbian erotica featuring established characters from media like anime, western comics, children's cartoons, that's just a result of brainwashing? The threads on gif of girls eating each other out, that represents tastes just as well as a plant at some political rally asking a pre-scripted question?
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>>82489439
You do know you're merely shifting the goalposts? Doesnt matter what you consider real or fake the point is the idea exists and is a real thing not solely being pushed by whoever you think is only doing it for an agenda.
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>>82489429

Basically any time there are a group of guys and no women around for an extended period shit gets gay. If you strip away all the cultural inhibitions, lots of guys don't care what they fuck, it's just a hole. They may not want to marry a guy, but they'll fuck him if he's willing to be used.
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>>82489486
No, that's for the lesbians and people who want to indulge in lesbian fappery. Not love of lesbians for simply existing.

I mean, do you honestly believe that all of the queer porn of straight people isn't made by mostly homosexuals, jaded porn degenerates and cagey folks looking to make a buck?
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>>82489426

Are you baiting, or do you need to be told all the civilizations that crumbled under fascism and what modern Americans would call conservatism?

Every civilization crumbles or becomes unrecognizable. Nothing lasts forever.
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>>82469640
But this is clearly some SJW shit campaign or trolls trying to trick SJW faggots into joining a stupid campaign to make them look stupid. Probably. Grandpa, these days is not about what """"guys like"""" is about what is the most progressiveâ„¢ it is.
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>>82489426
Liberalism began as a rejection of the monarchist-theocratic system that dominated the world for millennia. We have no kings, no gentry, and no established churches in America, and we haven't since the founding, so effectively America was built on liberalism. Deny that all you want, it's true.
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>>82489533
see
>>82488274

I haven't moved anything.
You simply kicked the ball to the 50 yard line and declared yourself the winner.

>>82489540
That's not true at all.
The bi dudes and gays...yeah. They'll fuck a dude and claim it was because there weren't any women around.
But the straight guys will be either going full monk mode or jack off in a corner. I'm sorry the fags in the prison movies and in yaoi have given you the wrong idea about how men work in reality.
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>>82468678
Why does it have to be lesbians and not Elsa having a relationship with an animal(s)? Elsa looks like the type that can't find comfort in human company.
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Why are there dudes in this thread speaking as though lesbians in porn and lesbians in children's media are largely the same.
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>Elsa gets a love interest
>It's a strong black womyn need no man we wuz kangs n sheeit
>And she's written terribly bland, because my god, don't wanna accidentaly offend anyone.
How would you react?
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>>82489696
No i didnt, it's literally what you're doing and you dont even seem familiar with the term.
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>>82485429
>It would be inaccurate in any premodern setting
Disney is already pushing for a Latina princess.

Which makes zero sense, unless they mean the daughters of either of those Emperors-for-a-day Mexico had long ago.
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>>82489896
Brazil had a local monarchy for a while, I think
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>>82489896
I wouldn't mind that. I'm pretty interested in those actually. Plus it's not like they have to be royalty at the start or even a literal Princess. Disney Princesses have like two NonPrincesses.
Not to mention Latina in America just means brown motherfucker from South or Central America. They could make her an Indian.
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>>82485429
Belle is a princess and the only thing Beast has is a castle nobody in the region was even aware of until some kidnapping took place. Aeriel is still considered a princess despite forsaking her own kind to live on land. There aren't hard and fast rules to this thing, just marketability. If Disney makes a dyke and says she's royalty, she just is.
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>>82490095
in that case we've already had a Latino Disney Prince.
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>>82490073
Did Brazil have mestizo monarchs?
Because that's pretty much what "latina" implies.
You can have all the amerindian princesses you want, Kuzco is one, Kida too. But a latina princess? Best you can go for is the daughter of an hidalgo in a Zorro-like setting.
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>>82490186
Best Prince and also best movie.
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>>82480175
They didn't they're just rounding up.
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>>82468678
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>82490243
>Kida
>Latina
How?
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>>82489885
No you fucking idiot. I've not actually changed my positing in the least. I've been pounding away at this for hours and I'm not stopping till you fucking get it.

Lesbians do not sell unless they are skinnimax lesbians who're doing it for the enjoyment of a male/doing it as a warm up for men. Real lesbians DO NOT SELL. They are color. They are background characters that people talk about but never focus on.

>>82489653
No, america was founded because they wanted to be their own business. Not be a free republic.
America is a business, an oligarchy ruled by wealthy elites and a farce of a government. We were changed from a representative republic that was akin to the EU with each state being their own nation, to a single nation ruled by a false democracy.
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>>82490243
You can make a fictionalized queen or princess of an aztec monarch, they're pretty different from the incas at least in setting, and you just do the design different
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>>82490184
>a castle nobody in the region was even aware of until some kidnapping took place

how does that work anyway
how do people just not know about a castle that huge
was it like that in the olden days, did you just not know when there was a castle that huge not far from your town?
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>>82490408
Resorting to name calling isnt going to make you any less wrong. You said only lesbians and the media is pushing for them while real people dont care. You've yet to prove this and you still only try and defend a position you can never hope to prove. Going full retard and yelling isnt going to make your case any less fruitless.
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I just want off this ride. I'm tired of all the agendas being pushed today. I don't care if she is a lesbian or not but it would've been established beforehand if they truly wanted to make her a lesbian. I am tired of how we all have these hugboxes to make people feels safe, everyone is such a spineless bitch now and if you speak against anything "politically correct" you get called a nazi. I just want to talk about comics and cartoons guys.
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>>82490418
That'd be a native-american princess, not a latina.
Unless your target audience is those La Raza faggots absolutely everyone from Greenland to Patagonia hate.
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>>82470737
Nigga please sauce this
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>>82489013
I don't think they want incest anon
I'm pretty sure they just want some confirmed gay representation anywhere. and since Elsa both showed no interest in guys and is a very popular character would be a huge boon for gay representation
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>>82490687

so every character that didn't show sexual attraction on screen should be converted to gay to make them feel better?
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>>82490785
no they just want one an they want a main character
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Disney is owned by Jews, so definitely.
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>>82490785
>Implying they don't already think of them as gay
You don't understand how starved these fuckers are.
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>>82468678
Her government is a monarchy though. Monarchs need to produce an heir or else their dynasty ends.
>she could have a lesbo lover on the side
Now you're making a Disney heroine—a role model for little girls—an adulterer.
I miss the days where people valued story first and pushing their agendas second.
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>>82490851
>a role model for little girls—an adulterer.

Just being true to life.
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>>82490510
>You said only lesbians and the media is pushing for them while real people dont care.
Where in the fuck did I fucking say this.
Point it out right now or get fucked.

I stand by what I said I'm I'm going to say it again and again. Lesbians do not sell unless they are skinnimax lesbians. Real ones are background characters at best that no one gives a single shot of spunk about.
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>>82490436
The film is based on a story from the 18th century, so it's not supposed to be that far back in the past. Her father's trip by horse took an entire day's worth of light, granted, so he could have gone over 30 miles and into a completely different region. Maybe Beast didn't actually lord over the town presented in the film and instead his subjects just up and left when he became a hideous monster, blaming it on a plague or something. Or he was merely a prince in name only. Royalty doesn't always necessitate leadership.

They clearly didn't want us to think about it. Remember, Beast is still under 18, too, so not even much time has passed.
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>>82489037
>See, the whole two chicks is the hottest shit ever I don't even need to join thing? That is something that is mostly pushed by media and lesbians.
>>82490981

There you go now kindly fuck off and never try to have an opinion on anything ever again because you're just an irrational little baby screaming over shit you know nothing about and it sounds like you some deep seeded issues regarding this very topic you should seek psychiatric help for.
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>>82490516
KIDS THESE DAYS!
AMIRITE?
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>>82490851
not if she plans on giving the throne to Anna or her kids

and if you are going to say that's unrealistic remember its a Disney movie
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>>82490516
would you be as upset is people wanted her to get a boyfriend since they never established her liking guys?
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>>82491215
No because gay people don't exist outside of social statements people use to attack me.
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>>82491139
I guess that could work. There have been IRL instances where a childless king gave his throne to his nephew.
Still though, it's a bit convoluted for my taste in order to make a princess homo.
And it's a pretty big step to. Has Disney ever had an explicit gay character in any of their movies before? To go from none to a princess is a huge leap. I would think their marketing folks would want to test the waters first by making a less substantial character gay.
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>>82491215
Like it or not, heterosexuality is the normativity.

>MUH 20%
That was skewed and you know it.
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>>82491278
Why should that matter? Since when does fictional media only ever give us what's "normal" in our world?
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>>82491215

if you're not a writer you just plain aren't going to come up with good plot events for a series. let the writers write
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>>82491278
he said he did not like the idea because it wasn't already established so I switched it to another that also wasn't already established
and he still got upset right here>>82491261

so I don't believe his original reasoning is all that strong
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>Make a thing
>There's several characters in it
>One of the characters is gay
>1% of the characters in your thing is gay
>People get mad at you for over representing gays because another thing you're not even associated with also has a gay character in it
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>>82490186
I think a pre-Columbian can be a Latino.
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>>82479364
Most of that shit is just people reading too much into things, but you're forgetting the one obvious Disney example.
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>>82491089
That is fucking NOT what I said damnit and that you extrapolated that from my post just boggles my fucking mind.

It's true, lesbians as a porny possibility are pushed by media and lesbians.

I want you to do something. I'm serious. Show me five homely real lesbians in media that can sell a movie or television show as the lead.

This is how it is. I mean Paige can't get work and she was an adorable media darling for a while. It sucks(and not in the awesome way) but that's how it is.

Making her gay will only make a handful of losers happy and destroy their shwag selling juggernaut.

At best Disney will just use this as a way to keep the waning interest in their garbage disney princess movie going online.
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>>82491957
That's literally exactly what you said and you still are trying to get other people to make your case for you. Burden of proof is on you so if you're not going to do anything but make giant text walls of asshurt then just stop already.
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>>82477931
Pic is nice; song parody makes it so much better.
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>>82491990
No it's not exactly what I said.
It's you putting words into my mouth to make an argument against something that was never put forth in the first fucking place.
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>>82492047
Nope. It's what you said, i even pointed it out. You're just plugging your ears and saying i cant hear you.
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Also, could we get back to posting cute Elsa/Anna pics?
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>>82491215
I'd probably read less an agenda and more just very sad people living vicariously through their favorite character or wanting them to create a character they can live through.
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>>82492124
No you simply pointed out a sentence that allowed you to springboard into a line of reasoning that makes no sense to rational people.
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>>82492361
It's actually just what you said, that's all.
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>>82477637
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>>82491799
>Most of that shit is people reading too much into things

So is this whole Elsa is a lesbo shit
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>>82468678

It doesn't matter how gay they make her, she's never going to fuck her sister, and you psychos will never be satisfied without that. It's like negotiating with terrorists.
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>>82468678
we already had that dident we there was an episode about some childs parents being lesbian on good luck charlie or something wasent there
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>>82476901
> This is abnormal
> These are also abnormal
> The hidden premise of Homosexuality being comparable with incest and cannibalism
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>>82492535
whats negotiating with terrorist like?
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>>82477592
>If you want to be progressive than cut it out with all the lesbians and make 2 gay MEN.
>Lesbians are everywhere. It is hilarious how anyone even thinks lesbians should be called progressive these days.
Real world, here.
Honestly, shut the fuck up. Gay men have been in media (even in a respectable way) far longer and far more prevalently that lesbians. Just because you're beginning to see them a lot in your cartoons doesn't mean that Will and Grace didn't still air almost 20 years ago.
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Or y'all could just keep bickering over social agendas in a cute Frozen thread...
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>>82492715
Realer world here
Honestly just shut the fuck up

Lesbians have also been in media just as long and now they're only appearing far more. Lesbians are becoming the new token black you see in kid friendly shit all the time.
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>>82492756
I don't have any pics of frozen
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>>82492756
>you will never be killed by a qt grill
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Why? Because it's cute and progressive? Isn't it more progressive to say you don't need a relationship to be whole? Or that girls don't need someone else helping them to do great things?

Honestly, if "girls just want a prince" is sexist, then so is "girls just want a princess." Either way the girls just want someone to complete them and that becomes their entire purpose. I'd say the better set up would be someone being given both options, Prince or Princess, showing interest in both and then going "Nah, Imma do it on my own" and then forgoing romance for other goals.
>>
I came here for the cute lesbian shipping and / or futa gifs, and boy let me tell you am I disappointed.
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>>82482449
I think that anon is talking about gays who stopped "being gay" while never stopping being gay.

Basically, a stereotypical gay guy going to clubs and fucking 20 different men in a night etc and eventually just leaving that all behind because he found it shallow and didn't like the high rates of drug abuse, abusive relationships, suicide and STDs among gay men and deciding to just not "be gay." Sure he knows he thinks men are sexy, but he's vowed to not act on that or participate in a culture all about that.

Make sense?
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>>82490687
Sex jokes aren't funny unless their subtle. It's funnier if it goes over your head as a child, and you catch it as you become older.
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>>82471169
Shout by Tears for Fears can be construed as such.
MR FUCKING ROBOTO can be construed as such.
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>>82491265
indeed
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>>82491322
Because the human mind has a tendency to revert to the norm. Consider the most over-the-top high-fantasy novel with orcs, elves, wizards, and all sorts of extraordinary creatures, where the laws of physics are merely guidelines. If you don't mention that men are born fully grown from unfertilized eggs that come from human women create, the reader will tend to assume that childbirth just like it works in the real world. Similarly, if you don't mention "hey, in my setting, 50% of people are gays, guys", people are going to assume that gays are just as prevalent as in the real world: not that much.
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>>82468678
no
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