How does the fanbase overall feel about Ruby and Sapphire? There's

Too much water, 7 out of 10.

>>82443189
Push nothing. They've had two full episodes dedicated too them and they were decent to great episodes. I don't know what you are talking about.

Disclaimer: I am not the fanbase.

Ruby and Sapphire were weak and aware of their weakness as other homeworld gems used them as tools for their war games. However, when they accidentally fused, they felt more at home with themselves than ever as they finally found their balancing counterpart.

Ruby is hot-headed and short-sighted to a fault (often leading to her going apeshit on things) whereas Sapphire is cool and collected and is blessed with the ability to see into the future.

They find being a fusion is better than being apart. Garnet is a better metaphor for a stable relationship than a metaphor or even a representation of love. Their affection feels a little forced, which is my only problem.

I wouldn't say Rebecca is pushing it, but that all the crystal gems have story arcs we haven't seen and so far the last season has been focusing on Garnet's origin. Future seasons will focus on Amethyst being born apart from all the other cooked gems and living with nature and animals. Then Pearl as she fell from grace and became a Rose-fucking renegade.

I loved the roster, it's probably my favorite, the introduction of double battles was a refreshing idea, the music was great, the 3 main legendaries were awesome, especially considering gen 4's clusterfuck of a dozen useless legendaries, Hoenn was comfy as fuck.

Overall: 9/10

>>82443344
That's a good goyim.

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>>82443297
But I mean they keep pushing it onto Garnet's character ever since they were revealed. Whenever Garnet talks to Steven about relationships or love, Garnet's breakdown moment with the proto-Cluster had R&S communicating to each other using her as a mouthpiece, and also pic related with new children's book coming out. And Rebecca talks about them a lot of the time in interviews and podcasts, they'll definitely show up more in the future.

What I kind of mean is that ever since introduced, they want to make it really clear that Garnet is "the fusion" character and not just Garnet.

>>82443411
>hmmm interesting points, but how to respond?
>I know, I'll meme at anon
>that'll show him and other anons will think I'm cool XDD

>>82443463
Careful anon. That's not what they're paying you for.

>>82443420
Blame Tumblr. That's Sugar's audience.

>>82443504
Ok.

>>82443334
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Isnt the point of their characters to be one dimensional drones that come together ther to form a whole?

>>82443420
>But I mean they keep pushing it onto Garnet's character ever since they were revealed.
What are you even talking about? It IS Garnet's character. It's like you are saying that since the CG were revealed as aliens they have been pushing the whole alien thing.

>>82443614
Their point is to push a gay agenda on the children.

It's a clever way to have "lesbians" without really having lesbians

>>82443189
This show is practically for kids and people who want to have kids. Youre gonna have to deal with shit like this.

>>82443189
I was begging for Ruby to be the aristocrat, just to shake things up, so that was a little lame. I'd like to reserve my judgement until they have individual interactions with Steven that aren't emotional dumpster fires that exist for the sole purpose of becoming one again (way to drop the ball on a perfect time for that interaction, The Answer), but until that happens, they are massively missing their potential. The ability to set aside their hungering selfishness for each other just for a little bit and explore them as individuals instead of poorly recognized magnets for each other world payoff in spades and wouldn't even be difficult to do.

It doesn't ruin Garnet for me though. Garnet best mom

most of the fanbase love them because they don't really care about the show, they just heard there was a cartoon with some lesbians

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>>82443189
Enjoy Garnet while you can.

>>82443189
One half is patting themselves in the back because MUH PROGRESSIVE CARTOONS

The other half wants to watch more Peridot.

>>82443987
How do we fix SU?

>>82443420

I get what you're saying and you're definitely not the first one to voice these concerns. I actually thought her dissociative conversation after seeing the hand cluster to be pretty well done, since she was about to literally tear apart just moments before.

I enjoy Garnet's Universe. It was a good foreshadowing/metaphor for Garnet's lesser selves acting as a support for her: a no-nonsense badass that can do cool things with the power of 'love'. They've just been pushing it lately in s2 because that's sort of the theme and if anyone, Garnet would be the best one to handle more Stevonnie and Peridot's initial prejudice. She'll probably be the one to console with Jasper if she's still adamant about hating fusions I guess.

>>82443189

Garnet is by far the worst character of the show, she's a "cool", hyper-competent character who's only "flaw" is her getting justifiably upset like once.
Her being a fusion is at least a way of making her somewhat interesting so I approve of it.

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it makes me think about DBZ fusion.

>>82444061
Spotted the Pearlfag.

>>82444043
Ruby or Sapphire die. It would be interesting to see how the other copes now that they can't be Garnet. The fan fallout would be hillarious.

>>82444045
>Garnet would be the best one to handle more Stevonnie and Peridot's initial prejudice.
Not really. Though Stevonnie X Garnet is a good pairing.

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>>82444152
>Rock people
>Fusing together in to a single person
Why is SU such unoriginal trash?

>>82444190
If this were actually an anime with a far more serialized plot, that might actually be what happens in the end. But all kids stuff needs to end on a happy note, so we'll never see it.

>>82443614
for now, yeah. All the episodes concerning them have them fusing in the end. If we're going to see more of them, hopefully they start to interact with other characters individually instead of together.

>>82444190
>>82444238
This right here is why I hate Rebecca Sugar.

>>82444194
shipping two midgets in an overcoat with two kids in an overcoat

I like it

>>82444238
maybe in an edgy late night anime. No way they'd do that in an afternoon program for actual kids

>>82444305
You think Stevonnie will ever fall in love with Garnet?

>>82444304
>I hate this person for not making the exact show I want!
>now watch me bitch about shows pandering to people who aren't me!

>>82444335
Its not like they'd be sliced and diced, it just needs to show their gem shattering.

>>82444377
who are you quoting?

>>82444061
Garnet's flaw is that she's enormously proud of herself. Her pride is a great help to her at times, but it can also make her self-centered, self-righteous, and a poor communicator. Garnet always thinks she's right and doesn't like being challenged; when she doesn't approve of something, her way of expressing herself tends to be terse and blunt, or violently hostile; it takes more than a little for her to actually explain her point of view.

For example, when they captured Peridot, Garnet was trying to approach things diplomatically until Peridot called her a "war machine". Instead of saying that she's fused out of love, not war, Garnet's response was to immediately turn violent before Steven stopped her.

Another good example is Sugilite. A large part of why she's so dangerous is Garnet's "never question who I am" attitude; she's proud of being herself and hates anyone who's opposed to that, even when her "self" is a reckless, destructive giant.

Garnet seems to be the smartest and most stable of the Crystal Gems, but she's got Sapphire's pride and Ruby's temper; which can lead to quite a few problems.

Honestly Ruby and Sapphire are the weakest of all the pokemon games. A massive step down from GSC and nowhere near as good as Diamond and Pearl.

>>82444473
>>>>/v/

>>82444440
Pearl, it's time to stop posting on 4chan.

>>82443189
I don't feel the 'push' you're describing. But I do think they're weaker characters, but only because we haven't seen them individually enough. What we need is an episode with Steven and Ruby interacting and Steven and Sapphire interacting, without R&S referring to each other.

>>82444599
The few times we've seen them though, they literally can't stand to be apart. Ruby might be more insufferable if she couldn't be standing next to Saph 24/7.

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>>82443189
I don't know. I don't care about Ruby and Sapphire that much, but I don't think I'd complain at development for either or both of them.

>>82443189
I don't really mind them. As long as they stay Garnet I'll be pleased.

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>>82444440
Of just by one.

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>>82443189
I like Ruby

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Garnet is the most hetero Gems can get inside their own species.
Ironically she is most likely the inspiration for the cluster experiment

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Is anything positive I could said about this going to be disregarded?

>>82445521
It's been pretty mixed reactions so far. The shitposters seemed to have gotten through with in the first few posts and now are mostly just being ignored.

>>82443420
Well I think that Rebecca hoped they would be a bigger hit. I think that she didn't decide until later on to make the whole, "Garnet is a fusion" thing a twist. Plus she says that her and the co creator are like ruby and sapphire, while their team is "Garnet." Also I think that they just put more time into making garnet a character while ruby and sapphire have like five seconds of characterization.
I actually like them but because I think to myself every time they show up, "ehh they only have 12 minutes to make these two interesting, this is good enough for 12 minutes."

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>>82445521
Cute stuff is always positive

>>82445593
So Ruby and Sapphire are based on Sugar and Zuke?

>>82443189
They kind of feel pointless.... Honestly I would have liked it if we never knew Garnet was a fusion until Steven's birthday.

>Garnet tells Steven/audience that she is a fusion made of love blah blah blah

>Ruby and Sapphire revealed in the flashback and are only shown as if they are Garnet's "past"

>>82445622
But anon, how else are they supposed to get those progressive points?

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>>82443189
This thread again?

>>82445656
I'm surprised mods haven't pruned it.

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>>82443350
Took me a minute

>>82443189
Frankly I'm surprised that lesbian space rocks is still on CN.

>>82445622
I like this better; they blew their load too early with the reveal.

>>82444043
More peri

>>82445707
It isn't...

>>82443189
I can agree that they're fairly cliche, but I don't particularly mind them. I did really look that small moment though with Sapphire realizing she wasn't reacting fairly to Ruby since she was just seeing the future where she'd be calm and okay.

>>82445708
The show was failing and the only way to save was lesbians.
Can you blame them?

>>82445622
They wanted to push the same sex couple in our face so bad that any chance of actually surprise flew right over our heads. I wouldn't mind if they saved this for season two, but at the same time the episode Ruby and Sapphire did get wasn't too bad.

>>82443189
I can't bring myself to care about them. I get the whole point they're supposed to represent and I'm not generally against the idea of Garnet being a fusion but characterwise, they're just too uninteresting for me to give a fuck about them on their own. Which is kind of a shame because I really like Garnet but as someone above said, her character became too much of "look what a perfect relationship she is, isn't love awesome" after the fusion thing was revealed.

>>82445782
The show already had lesbian overtones though. It would have been a much better reveal had it actually been on Stephen's birthday.

>>82445754
BTFO

>>82445622
I think the point of them defusing is the whole 'no relationship is perfect' thing.
Kind of like how they showed Rose and Greg wasn't OMG, LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT, BABBIES 3EVER (Until she died of excessive babby)
They could have/should have saved it for a moment of emotional conflict, but I guess they thought it'd be too much drama and tweest all at once.

>>82445817
Seriously, look what canon lesbians did for SU; it went from C-list to A-list fast.
No wonder the shoved it in our face in the season finale.

>>82445830
So did steven just drop out of her mangina with her gem making her wither away? Or did she just turn into steven

>>82444238
but if it was an anime they would resurrect later

>>82445873
I like to imagine he was just straight up born from her forehead ala Zeus.

>>82445830
>Kind of like how they showed Rose and Greg wasn't OMG, LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT, BABBIES 3EVER (Until she died of excessive babby)
But it was.

Does this guy ever get tired?

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I think they're better than Pearl.

>>82445873
Part of her hambone dropped to the ground like sludge and started to form into a humanoid. At this moment the landwhale breathed one last time before falling to the ground. Upon impact all of her internal organs were crushed by her collapsing ribcage (similar to a cow).

>>82445961
To be fair, everyone's better than Pearl. She should be written out of the show.
Pearl is better than Steven though.

>>82445696
Do-you-think-this-is-a-motherfucking-game.jpg

>>82445860
It's sad how people will pine over anything that with homo lust in it.

>>82446065
On the bright side, it's the only thing keeping SU afloat at this point.

>>82443297
Anything I don't like is pandering.

>>82443344
>Then Pearl as she fell from grace and became a Rose-fucking renegade.
>became a rose fucking renegade

HAH, SHE WISHES.

>>82446006
pearl is the best written and most popular.

>>82446242
Becky confirmed it wasn't one-sided :^)

>>82446261
That's not how you spell Garnet.

>>82444440
I like this perspective. It'd be a shame if the show never addresses her infallible sense of pride to the point of fault in the future.

Maybe we'll see more of that angry, stubborn Garnet when Lapis elaborates to Steven on how she got stuck in the mirror and her issue with the CG.

>>82446281
So does that mean that Pearl cucked Greg?

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>>82446298
>MUH FUSION

>>82446332
Nah, the opposite.

Pearl is pretty much a cuckquean.

>>82444793
keep in mind that they were split under stressful conditions, and when they were split each time the obvious focal point of the episodes were for them to fuse back. Part of the issue I think is that their VA's are guest voices, so there's limited time and episodes to elaborate on their characters.

>>82446364
But Rose loved Pearl. And We Need to Talk proves that Rose didn't take Greg seriously.

>>82444440
>A large part of why she's so dangerous is Garnet's "never question who I am" attitude; she's proud of being herself and hates anyone who's opposed to that, even when her "self" is a reckless, destructive giant.
That'd be a good theme: the consequences of the "Be yourself" mantra

Too bad we'll never see it.

>>82443189
I like them because it's not like they're two powerful characters forming one, they strike me as being fairly dysfunctional as individuals.

They have a co-dependant relationship, and that's what Garnet is.

>>82446446
What Hirsch is to plot, Sugar is to character development.
At least there's still Rick and Morty.

>>82444212
You literally can't be original these days.

It's ridiculous to even expect it. Everything is inspired by something else.

>>82446334
>MUH ROSE

>>82446430
Ah, but she did once he challenged her to do so.
They sat down, have a talk and he managed to earn her respect as an equal.

>>82446516
No they didn't. Rose just left him for Pearl.

>>82443189
I hate them and just about every episode with them. The entire fanbase latched on just because they're lesbians.

>>82446611
You hated jailbreak? Damn.

>>82446611
This. If they were straight friends or sisters, the show would be cancelled due to low ratings.

>>82446563
You mean when she let him fill her with his baby batter despite knowing it'd kill her after knowing him 10 years and knowing Pearl 5000?
Did you even watch the end of the episode man? It shows pretty clearly the point where they went from 'He's cute and amusing' to the state you see them in the video Steven finds, an actual serious couple in a serious relationship who are wildly in love.

>>82444212
SU aired way before Gappy was told to be a fusion.

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>>82443530
>>82443600
>>82444212
>>82444304

>>82446635
>, an actual serious couple in a serious relationship who are wildly in love.
You misunderstand. Rose loved Pearl and when it came time create a super weapon against the Homeworld, she wanted to leave a piece of herself for Pearl.
So she picked Greg, the only man desperate enough to bang her (notice how he let himself go?).

>>82446430
Not romantically

Its really shitty that english only has one word (Love) to describe such a wide variety of emotions

>I loved her
>I love my dad
>I love the summer

They're valid phrases but represent very different feelings

>>82446635
You know, I never got any chemistry between Greg and Rose. It just felt that they were paired together for plot related reasons.

>>82446715
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

By that logic, Rose only loved Greg as a friend.

>>82446743
Tumblr please

Rose purposefully kept her distance because she wanted Pearl to be her own person

Theres no point in freeing a slave if theyre going to do everything they did as a slave anyway

>>82446670
Post the one with the guy paying for people to shitpost.

>>82446784

Gotcha covered famalamadingdong.

>>82444817

>>82443189
loved em when i thought ruby was a dude. someone just had to point it out and ruin it

>>82446783
She freed Pearl because she was in love with her. She wanted to be with her romantically.

>>82446826
Same deal I had with Alphys and Undyne.

These relationships would be so much better if they were hetero.

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>>82446826
>>82446879

>>82446901
Tumblr please.

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>>82446845

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>>82446845
Please, we all know Rose spent 5000 years fucking humans while Pearl sat in the corner and cried.

>>82446446
From my perspective we've already seen it, if you consider Garnet and Amethyst responsible for what they did as Sugilite. Garnet's extremely proud of being herself and doing what she feels like in the face of all opposition, which leads to good decisions in some contexts (when she originally formed) but can also lead to being selfishly proud of her (Sugilite's) own actions even when she's recklessly or deliberately harming others.

There's also the computer console she smashed in a rage. You can bet that'll come back to bite her.

>their existence slightly ruins Garnet.

Garnet has no personality outside of being the stoic/competent one, she had very little to ruin

>>82444190
IMO I'd want to get rid of Ruby...she's the most annoying of the gems. But if Sapphire died, the CGs would be fucked without future vision.

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>>82443189
Finding out that Garnet is a constant lesbian tribbing orgy, seems ok to me.

To be honest I'm mostly just impressed that Sugar managed to get away with putting two underage Lesbians making out on screen.

If you described that shit to 90% of the population they'd be hollering BAN THIS SICK FILTH and assume it was a weeboo hentai series (If they even knew what that meant).

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>>82448841
But how are they underage if their thousands if years old?

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>>82443334
Can you just fuck off? Your family would be disappointed knowing that you're a shill on a imageboard.

Get laid, get a life.

>>82446917
Nice buzzword, shill.

>>82443189
Why did she kiss her eyeball?

>>82443189
You know that couple that doesn't really have a life outside of their relationship? They're that

>>82449116
The worst couples, honestly.

>>82449113
I always ask this but I never get an answer

Until I watched Utena, must be a reference.

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>>82445593
>I think that she didn't decide until later on to make the whole, "Garnet is a fusion" thing a twist
ffs nigga

>>82447798
Garnet is the best gem. She's the only one who actual loves Steven, she's the only one to have told him so and she woke him up at midnight on his birthday for fuck sake.

>>82443189
I honestly don't care for neither Garnet or her components due to none of them acting like anything even remotely resembling an individual. Ruby and Sapphire have absolutely nothing going for them as their own characters, and they only exist to think about the other. They're both obsessed with each other, and their backstory episode is a direct contradiction to past episodes. it's just that I've yet to see much good coming out of them, since most of their episodes are terrible.

>>82449401
It was always going to be a thing, but in here you could argue it looks less like it was going to be some big reveal twist, and instead something that might have been introduced casually much earlier, possibly as a thing Steven knew all along before the show even started.

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I liked them until they made they starting get way too blatant with the whole lesbians thing.

Also, Sapphire looks like shit with one eye, and the worst part is that wasn't even planned from the beginning.

>>82443189
The point isn't their differences and contrast, the point is that they're one note and useless on their own but together they're fucking Garnet.

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>>82443189
Looks who's back for In Too Deep:
(Leaked on the Cartoon Network app)

>>82449813
What?

>>82449813
It could've been worse. Imagine if she had no eyes at all.

>>82450371
Don't be too sure; that could be from any upcoming episode, including the ones from Summer of Steven.

>>82450371
Although I'm surprised to see Ruby (and possibly Sapphire) back so soon I think it might have something to do with this:
>>82450162
>>82450184
>>82450303

>>82449459
>She's the only one who actual loves Steven,
Blatant bullshit.

>>82446928
Nah, Pearl was always her number one.

>>82450406
I disagree. It may have to do something with Garnet's emotional state similar to Keeping It Together and Keystone Motel

>>82450447
>Pearl was always her number one.
>got cucked by a dumbass college dropout

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>>82450447
It's time to stop living in denial, Pearl.

>>82443189
They steal garnet episodes, like an episode about garnet where Estelle gets barely any lines. What's that about?

>>82450542
>>82450555
There's no proof of that.

>>82450542
Why is Greg a dumbass college dropout?

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>>82450608
There is literal living proof of it.

>>82450516
I want to see an instance where Garnet unfuses because she just needs to squeeze into a small place and there's no drama behind it.

>>82450632
He's a dumbass that dropped out of community college to try to become a rockstar.

I like him, but he's still a college dropout and still kind of a dumbass.

>>82450555
Pearl should just suck it up and take the Dewey dick. It's a solution that benefits everyone.

>>82443189
Maybe it's just me but I can't help thinking of Ruby as male. She looks, sounds and acts pretty masculine, especially compared to Sapphire. I feel like that's kind of how they're getting away with it, like Sugar's aiming for progressive points while hoping some of the parents who might raise a stink about this won't be paying enough attention to notice it.

>>82450705
Greg should go back to school and set an example to his equally dumbass son.

>>82450709
I just thought she was the butch one. Their whole thing is being opposites that attract, so it makes sense one is feminine and one is masculine.

>>82449463
>their backstory episode is a direct contradiction to past episodes.
Eh?

>>82450709
>She looks, sounds and acts pretty masculine, especially compared to Sapphire.
That's what's called butch.

>>82450748
Greg doesn't even send his son to public school in the first place. He lets Steven be homeschooled by space rocks who often demonstrate a poor understanding of humanity and earth culture.

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>>82443189
>How does the fanbase overall feel about Ruby and Sapphire?
They adore them.

And I mean they ADORE them.

>There's a part of me that feels like their existence slightly ruins Garnet.

But the fact that Garnet is made out of them is what gives her a lot of depth. Her strong and near-unconditional belief in Steven is suddenly understandable, her dedication to protecting Earth has become more than just a matter of loyalty to a dead gem. Being a person whose very existence is revolutionary gives her a lot of purpose.

>>82450811
What a fucking dumbass. He should stop interacting with Steven.

>>82450757
>>82450780
Seems less butch and more straight up male to me. I guess it is a fine line.

>>82450664
He's just Pearl's surrogate son.

>>82444190
Ruby should die so Sapphire can learn not to use other people as a crutch.

>>82450632
Men can't be anything worthwhile in the show. They all have to be losers or assholes.

The father has to be an unattractive loveable loser that does not threaten to make any girls moist and puts them into that "he's a harmless daddy" mindset so they won't have to broch the "why aren't any of them trying to fuck/marry steves father" thing that will inevitably pop up in the minds of the female and queer fanbase.

If there is a metal race and they are all litteral metal versions of chad thundercock and jamal longdick the net will be flooded with "which gem should hook up with which metal" and are the metals trying to rape the gems? a treatise on gender relations in cartoons. Oh and rape porn/erotica. The rape porn and erotica will flood the net.

>>82450925
You seem to have issues.

>>82450840
It doesn't help that she's a boobless midget. Usually if you design a butch female character, you give them at least one obviously female trait like big boobs. But Ruby had to be short and just has less room for a feminine body.

>>82443189
is an abomination

>>82450874
Funny, I was thinking Sapphire should die so that Ruby could find her life a purpose outside of protecting Sapphire. Plus, she'd have the more emotional reaction which would be more entertaining.

I think Garnet's advice to Pearl about being her own person and getting over Rose was extremely hypocritical.

>>82450925
>Men can't be anything worthwhile in the show. They all have to be losers or assholes.

Oh look. It's this post again.

>>82451109
>I think Garnet's advice to Pearl about being her own person and getting over Rose was extremely hypocritical.
Given how Pearl has been growing a backbone, maybe this will set up a scenario where Pearl repeats those words back at Garnet.

>>82451149
He's not wrong though.

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God I just want jasper to cuck rubys shit, sapphire obviously likes big strong masculine warrior gems, and jasper is much better than ruby. I want jasper to pound sapphire Cyclops pussy in front of ruby while ruby cries

>>82451189
He's not.
Every character in the show has flaws and strengths.
Hell, Pearl and Amethyst alone have such a stupid long list of problems.
If any character has more pro is Steven himself, basically the nicest guy around.
Unless you're talking of super powers.

>>82451310
Nice try tumblr.
>Connie's mom is a doctor.
>Steven's dad works in a car wash.
>No feminism here!

>>82450925
Except all the business owners we've seen thus far are all men.

>>82451400
>Dewey is a Mayor
>Barbara is a Postwoman
Your turn.

>>82451417
>Owning a fry shop and a car wash is much better than being a doctor.
Leave your penis at the door.

Anyone have that one pic of Ruby and Sapphire dressed as Lambda and Bernkastel?

>>82451400
>Connie's dad is a bit uptight
>Connie's mom is a total bitch

>>82443189
>>82450371
so we're gonna see this one, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2mu6B5Q26E

>>82451400
is there something wrong with owning a small business son

>>82451442
>dissing small businesses
Why do you hate America?

>>82451434
>an incompetent caricature of a politician
>a hyper competent government worker

>>82451528
>hyper competent
In her only featuring episode, she was kind of a bitch.

>>82451400
Do you have a problem with car wash owners?

>>82451400
>Connie's dad is a military pilot

>>82451528
You realize you're the one playing up the female accomplishments, right? Who's being Tumblr here?

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>>82451581
>Connie's dad is a military pilot
What? No, he's private security. Which is probably a polite way of saying mercenary

>>82451528
>a hyper competent government worker
According to who?
Isn't she the same as Jamie? In fact Jamie actually have bigger aspirations and does his own projects in acting.

>>82451459
>>82451581
>>82451643
>Connie's mom is the breadwinner of the house.
>Connie's dad is a pussy whipped government grunt.

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>>82451701
>Paid shitposter

>>82451657
And of course, as a man with aspirations, Jamie is put down and belittled.

>>82451701
The entire family moved because of the father's job.

>>82451701
Alright I get this is bait, but Connie said that they've had to move multiple times because of HIS job.

>government
Do you not understand what the word private means

>>82451756
Who in the show isn't?

>>82450967
Elaborate.
The mother's of the boys who watched Transformers would frequently write in while pretending to be children and ask where are the female robots. When they tell them "they are all robots and were built in a factory" people lost their shit and started just mail bombing them.
It was crazy.

>>82451149
It's true.
They honestly have to be assholes or some kind of ugly or losers. It's to keep the very notion of them being datable by the gems out of the mind of the audience.

>>82451434
Is also a harmless sexless parental male character/loser, which is my point.
Any males that are in the same technical age range of the gems who aren't how I described.

>>82451556
She was just being a strong independent woman in the year 2016. Get with the times.

>>82451847

You seem to have issues.

>>82451847
>The mother's of the boys who watched Transformers would frequently write in while pretending to be children and ask where are the female robots. When they tell them "they are all robots and were built in a factory" people lost their shit and started just mail bombing them.
Kindly source that. There were female Transformers added to the lineup later on, but that was more likely the result of network demands to have at least a few girls in the cast (Airazor and Override were female for the same reason). TFwiki suggests that claims of "feminist complaints" are at best exaggerated (based on a joke story Simon Furman wrote) and at worst made up.

>>82451847
>Any males that are in the same technical age range of the gems who aren't how I described.
Technically a thousand year old human male would be something between a mummy and a pile of dust.

>>82451847
>Ahhh! All of that shitposting was worth it for $0.50 cents!

>>82446670
I don't get why you consider it objectively wrong to criticize a show that receives nearly universal praise.

Besides, while it may be true that artists should be allowed to push a theme or agenda in their work, it should also be okay for others to not like that things are being crammed down others' throats.

>>82451972
>>82451983
You're doing nothing to disprove him.

>>82452017
There is nothing to disprove desu.

>>82452016
Ignore them anon; they're drunk on Rebecca Sugar's tumblr Kool-Aid.

>>82452016
It's not so much criticism for me as anti-fandom. Responding to every SU-related post with "OH MY GOD SUFAGS ARE THE WORST FUCK SUFAGS" is just obnoxious.

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>>82451847
>sexless parental male character/loser,
Alright, let's keep this ball rolling.
Mr Smiley is a business owner, he's no one's parent. What's your problem with him?

>>82446446
We have seen it several times actually.

>>82452040
You know, except for the blatant feminist agenda.

>>82452207
He's black.

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>>82452224

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>>82452263
He's the whitest character in the show.
The breadwinner of this home. His wife loves him and his child adore him. He even wants his step child to follow his footsteps.

>>82452016

Nobody complains about criticism when you aren't a huge fag about it.

>>82452309
Deny it all you want, it's there.

>>82452224
Didn't notice it.

>>82452345
It's time to take off the tin foil hat, anon.

>>82452322
That's a literal cuckold.

>>82452383
It's time to stop drinking the Kool-Aid anon.

>>82452322
>raising another man's son
Top cuck.

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>>82452422
It's time to stop shitposting anon.

>>82452351
Look closer.

>>82452384
>>82452439
And so it goes full circle.

>>82452459
All I see is deepest lore, anon.

>>82452439
I thought cuck was filtered.

>>82443189
I don't know which thread has more shitposting, this or the Pickle and Peanut thread.

>>82452384
>>82452439
Doesn't that only applied if the person doesn't know he's not raising his own child?

>>82452322
he's a plant soldier created by Rose who forgot his purpose

>>82452484
Not anymore.

>>82452522
You're right I was just meming.

>>82451921
Garry Chalke himself talked about it in a voice interview once. Basically said it creeped him out.

As for putting females into the show, yeah, it's obvious that the networks forced them to add transformers from then on for marketing reasons and some feminist in the company forced them too.
But the first apperance happened precisely because of the reason I told you.
Creepy middle aged women wanted to shlick to robot porn/wanted their female transformer stand in.

I personally wanted to see more of them after Jailbreak, and was happy to see them again in Keystone Motel. After The Answer, I have now had my fill of R&S and don't care to see them anymore. Just Garnet from here on out, please.

>>82452628
I've got bad news for you anon...

>>82452207
Nothing actually. He's just barely there.

>>82452224
Feminist agenda? Not really a feminist agenda, just a lot of gay pushing.

>>82452749
Gay agendas are just as bad feminist agendas.

>>82452439
Isn't pearl rasing the love of her life and her boyfriends son?
Like she litterally gave herself a cunt so she could get dicked and preggers by this dude.
(Like dude was...what...throat fucking her..I don't know how they work sexually)
and now she's going to spend the rest of her life in service to him and helping raise him.

>>82452869
You got it backwards; Greg was just a sperm donor. Steven is Pearl's surrogate son.

>>82452943
Sperm donor?
Yeah, but when she finally managed to get her real working human girl snatch, he banged her like a screen door in a hurricane for months on end and donated enough sperm to knock up half the gem population.
ONCE should have been enough. Hell they're made of hard light and float around a gem. A single blowjob should have been enough to get the required spunk. She could have just floated it into her pseudo uterous and grew steven from that.
NOPE she actually became a quasi human woman just to get the dick.

>>82453081
No, that's not how sex works. You don't get pregnant on the first try.

>>82453157
Not even magic sex?

>>82452943
>Pearlfags

I never cared for their designs. Something was always so off about them both compared to the other Gems.

>>82453188
Not even. She had to follow human biology.

>>82453157

Anon I have some potentially bad news for you.

>>82453320
That goes for every character design.

I like hatebit, but Jesus Christ some of his art is just... Fuck

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>>82452801
pretty much anyone with a message meant to persuade you is annoying.

Unneeded political trash which means that Garnet will never get an expanded personality.

http://thegeekiary.com/lets-talk-garnet/32489

Here's a comprehensive review of Garnet's character.

>>82453350
Nah, Greg probably fucked her a couple times before heading to lunch. He probably wished he could be as close to Rose as Pearl was.

>>82453367
Hellen, really, you need to move on.

>>82453157
Yeah...that is kind how it happens.
And there is a such thing as her being far more susceptible to have a child during certain parts of her menstral cycle+ being turned on enough.
Hell, many women unfortunate women get preggers after a single rape.

But since she's in perman babby havin mode and she has a fresh perma virgn snatch and instant orgasm button plus..the gems are a bit on the empathetic side...
He was fucking her lights out on the reg for a long ass time before she decided to have a child.
I wonder how many times pearl has walked in on them.
Greg the rock stud between the thighs of the pink goddess from beyond the stars,
Him brutally animalistically fucking the woman she devoted her entire life too and her howling like an animal in intense pleasure.

I bet Greg even invited her to join once or twice. Before Rose gets a bit jealous and says that she's not like her and then tells him that if he's interested in a second hole then she's been experimenting with something and whispers into his ear.

>>82453383
You saw his butt buddy piece.

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>>82451643
>mfw "private security" probably means something like taking care of security cameras in a mall

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Ruby and Sapphire's entire characters is >muh relationship

Keystone Motel was only entertaining because of the animation on Ruby, otherwise anything centering around these cunts is a big PASS for me.

>>82453454
So basically, Pearl could actually be Steven's mother.

>>82453473
Knowing this show, probably.

>>82453431
Dude, Greg was a Chad Thundercock.
He fucked her all day erreyday and twice on sunday.
They actually fucked during and after they inevitably stopped an invasion from their homeworld.

>>82453512
>not liking The Answer
baka

>>82453550
Greg is more like Vince Vaughn in that movie where he donates sperm.
He's only Steven's father biologicall, the Gems are his real parents.

honestly i thought if Garnet were just one gem that makes her cooler imo

>>82453416
You just described the entire show.

>>82453593
You're like three layers deep in mental retardation, nice.

>>82453570
The Answer was cliche as fuck. Literally nothing in that episode made me feel like it shed light on them as characters. It was pretty much Steven Universe presents: Dances with Wolves

Also Ruby's singing was terrible.

>>82453593
Holy fuck spoiler that anon

>>82453593
Wtf?

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>>82446639
>Chapter Release Date
>December 19, 2012

>Steven Universe pilot episode
>July 27, 2013

>>82453512
>>82453677
Well get ready for more Ruby and Sapphire for In Too Deep!

>>82453394
Give me an example of a work with a message that's not meant to persuade you

>>82453677
>It was pretty much Steven Universe presents: Dances with Wolves
wat?

> Also Ruby's singing was terrible.
Terrible yes, but cute.

>>82446514
Garnet is possibly one of the most inconsistent characters right now. Sometimes shes stoic an emotionless, other times shes making big retarded smiles and gestures.

>>82453629
Vaughn is as gay(the sexuality and the emotion) as richard simmons in a room full of naked gay dave letterman impersonators.

He fucked her raw in every hole and she even grew a pooper so he could fuck her there.
It may have started out like that, but once she got that first taste, she was like a crystal fiend(no pun..okay a little pun) and had to do it again..you know..to make sure.

Face it. Pearl got cucked and she's raising the child of the only woman she's ever loved. And one day, she will fall victim to Steve's Thundercock...if they don't end up making him a queer.

>>82445873
She shapeshifted a uterus. When he was born odds are she faded away.

>>82453809
That's literally Pearl.
>Some episodes she a motherly know it all.
>Other episodes she's a crazed lesbian obsessed with Rose.

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>>82446670
>Dat image
I always wonder what makes people this fucking salty and defensive.

>>82453839
Greg's not exactly a hetero; he was pretty gay in the flashbacks.

And for all intents and purposes, Steven is Pearl's surrogate son, who has the right to be queer.

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>>82453874
Those aren't conflicting though. Sometimes it seems like the writers don't even know what the fuck to do with Garnet.

>>82453874
>>82453809
You can be both you know. They don't contradict each other.

>>82453908
The fact their favorite show is being rightfully criticized.

I only watch the show for pics like that.

>>82453958
Will Jamie ever get that gem puss puss?

>>82453982
tumblr universe is not valid criticism.

>>82453958
>>82453964
No you can't. And quit acting like it's only Garnet.

>>82454042
Yes it is.

>>82454048
>No you can't.
Top argument.

>>82454097
No it isn't.

>>82453931
He's 80's rocker, most of them have the mannerisims of queers but they ain't.

Look, he fucked Rose half to death and eventually killed her with the dick of death.
Pearl is raising the seed of the man who fucked the only being she's ever loved to death and she died with a contented smile on her face.

This bitch might actually lose her mind and either kill steven, lead to his downfall or rape him.

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Why do you guys still reply to Hellen Jo?

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I couldn't care. That late in season 1 the show had already shit the sheets too much and often to save itself

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How does the fan base feel about best gem?

>>82453931
>Glam rock is now gay
The world we live in ladies and gentlemen.

>>82453908
That people keep saying all of this bullshit. You start to confuse criticism as shitposting.

>>82454189
>now

>>82454180
>Muh comfy monster of the week

The show's better than its ever been at the moment.In my opinion. If you disagree thats fine.

>>82453958
>Sometimes it seems like the writers don't even know what the fuck to do with Garnet.
That image doesn't contradict The Answer.

The Answer was a fairy tale story told to Steven.

And even within the fairy tale, they were attracted to each other, they fused, but that's not the same as being in love with each other.

>>82454154
Anon, they were queer.

Pearl is living out her lover's dream; to raise THEIR son and see him excel.

Besides, Steven is better with Pearl than with Greg, who'd put a wig on Steven and do Catholic priest things to him.

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>>82453982
>rightfully criticized.

No. Shitposting is not "criticism." However, the fanbase on this board is thin skinned as fuck and feels the need to respond to each and every "bait" post for no reason other than it got their titties in a twist.

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>>82454297
>Pearl is living out her lover's dream; to raise THEIR son and see him excel.
Yeah that's why she almost let Steven drop to his death in The Scabbard huh.

>>82454189
Glamrock was always gay anon.
It's just some guys got too into it to realize how gay it was.
It's kinda like how people who get WAY too into porn get.

>>82454335
I'll respond to bait if i damn well please anon.

>>82452016
The complaint is that anti-SU fags are a lot more obnoxious than SU fags. The posts linked to by anon weren't even criticisms. They were just shitposting pure and simple. I'm sure anon wouldn't have posted that screencap and linked to someone who actually gave even so much as a half way valid subjective complaint like "the character designs suck".

>>82451496
He probably fell for the STEM meme.

>>82450516

I just realized the unfusing could be because Sapphire thinks it might calm Lapis Lazuli down to see another member of Blue Diamond's court.

You know, make her feel more at home.

>>82454297
Oh..oh my god.
I'm sorry. You actually believe this.

No, Greg was banging her back out and on some level Pearl hates Steven for taking Rose away from her.

I liked Garnet better when she was a walking mystery, but I do honestly enjoy ruby/sapphire and their relationship together.
I dont like ruby's voice actress at all tho

So if one were to fuck Garnet, this would actually count as a threesome, no?

>>82454481
Ruby's VA was miscast; she works better when voicing characters like Chloe.

>>82454154
>killed her with the dick of death.

stop this meme

>>82454613
But it never stops being funny.

>>82454338
The same way Greg manipulated Steven in House Guest, huh?

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I really hope the mods don't delete Steven Universe threads because /sug/ is back. I'd really wish that cancer exist because its hard as fuck to have actual discussion there like it is in threads like these.

>>82454457
Greg resents Steven. Pearl is just trying to be a good mother.

>>82454683
These threads are fun.

>>82454613
>>82454638
Greg is fat. Fat people have tiny dicks.
Therefore, Greg has a canonically small dick.

>>82454262
>but that's not the same as being in love with each other.

Well they certainly decided to stay together. Perma-fusion is basically marriage as its presented.

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>>82454641
Nice attempt at deflection but it won't work on me.

Your idea of Pearl seeing Steven as a son doesn't work when she is filled with such relentless resentment.

>>82454754
What? Does that mean if I get fat my dick will shrink?

>>82443938
what

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>>82454641
>Letting someone almost die is the same as wanting to spend more time with your son

Please don't have kids

>>82454763
They didn't decide to permafuse in that episode.

If Garnet defused so Sapphire could talk with Lapis privately, and we're seeing Ruby, does that mean Steven, and therefore we, won't get to hear the actual conversation?

Do not cuck us, Rebecca, so help me god

>>82454763
>Well they certainly decided to stay together.
Sure, eventually.

>Perma-fusion is basically marriage as its presented.
There was a montage that implies a length of time occurred before they actually tried fusing again. They didn't fall out the ship and go "Let's permafuse immediately and forever".

>>82454729
Yeah, lets hope the mods let us have at least one when /sug/ comes back from /trash/. Hopefully they don't bring their retarded Loud House feud with them.

>>82454798
No, anon. It will look small.

>>82454765
>>82454826
Pearl may have a little resentment but Greg used Steven as a slave in House Guest. He didn't to spend time with his son, he wanted his own little butler.

>>82454867
>There was a montage that implies a length of time occurred before they actually tried fusing again.

Yeah, about one (uno) day.

>>82454890
I honestly hope that the Loud House feud continues. It fills the gap Gravity Falls left.

>>82453740
Adventure Time?

>>82454890
What loud house feud?

>>82454686
Greg loves his son and built a home for him.
Pearl almost lets the boy die multiple times and acts like he's a burden she has to take up.
Garnet who's a clusterfuck of silliness for a variety of reasons is shown to be more of a mother to him..

>>82454754
I'm fat...ish and my dick is a bit over nine inches in length and six inches in circumference. Kinda thin, but if I was pushing 6.5 or worse 7 inches in girth, very few women would be able to handle it...and I would get boner problems later in life.

>>82454929
>Pearl may have a little resentment
Ha ha A LITTLE?

>>82454941
I don't think you understand montages, they're deliberately non-specific about the length of time that passed.

>>82455015
/sug/ and /tlhg/ are having some retarded fight like how /gfg/ tried to start shit with /sug/ when it was here.

>>82455037
Wow, one good deed makes up for being absent for most of Steven's life.

Greg's a bum, Pearl's reckless, Garnet is the only good parent Steven has, that we can agree on.

>>82455040
The way its present more or less shows the passage of hours or a day at the most. Also, it makes sense for Rose and Pearl to still be in that location instead of off somewhere else.

People here do know that Pearl genuinely loves Steven, right?

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>>82455152
>Wow, one good deed makes up for being absent for most of Steven's life.
Are you under the impression that the Crystal Gems raised Steven.

I think you need to rewatch that extended intro again mister.

>>82455152
Re-watch Stevens birthday.

>>82455152
Greg raised Steven. That's why Steven isn't an emotional wreck like the rest of the CG.

>>82455157
>The way its present more or less shows the passage of hours or a day at the most.
There's no way of telling for sure.

>Also, it makes sense for Rose and Pearl to still be in that location instead of off somewhere else.
Remember that it's not an actual flashback, but a reinterpretation of events by Garnet to Steven. It's the oversimplified version of events. For example, were Rose and Pearl REALLY the only rebels, or are they presented that way because Garnet knows those are the only gems Steven would care about hearing?

>>82455214
>>82455242
The intro isn't canon; and even if it does, that excuse the fact that Greg basically abandoned Steven on the Gems' doorstep.

>>82455087
that was days ago. you're literally the only one who hasn't forgotten about it. you probably also samefagged most of the posts related to it because your life is empty

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>>82455314
>The intro isn't canon
Who ever told you that lie.

>>82455305
>Steven
>not an emotional wreck
He cries at the drop of a hat.

https://twitter.com/_AdamM/status/719600388727533573 Marco is going to be in SU

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>>82454890
>>82455087
What feud?

>>82455371
He's just a sensitive soul.

>>82455310
>For example, were Rose and Pearl REALLY the only rebels

There's no reason to believe that Rose and Pearl WEREN'T the only ones there because of how little of guards there were. There's also little reason to think that what we're seeing is LITERALLY what Steven is thinking.

>>82455335
It wasn't in the show boi.

>>82444440
I think Garnet (possibly Ruby and Sapphire individually) accepting her flaws is the point of Steven's character. Either it'll happen after an incident or over a certain period of time, but Steven's place in the CGs is to be the thing that both balances them out and helps them deal with their baggage. Pearl's starting to get over her shit, Amethyst's is going to be addressed even more in future episodes, it's safe to assume the Garnet trio will as well.

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>>82455305
He's just the opposite.

>>82455152
He's taken care of steven his entire life and raised him mostly alone. He grew up to be a good kid and the gems are just playing catch up and nearly killing him in the process.

If they weren't helping him become strong enough to take on those crazy space gem monsters, if I was greg I would have forbidden them from seeing his son.

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>>82455371
And? Crying is good for the soul. Leaving children to hang for their lives on the other hand...