Did anyone else feel like giving Stark a hug after this movie?

He's an Uncle Tom. Sold out all his friends to the man for a pat on the back.

Don't forget his shit always being used as weapons by other people

>>82431034
>Sold out all his friends to the man for a pat on the back.
To be fair, he was trying to get them to come with him so they wouldn't be arrested. The Avengers are the only family he has left, and he doesn't want the gubmint cracking down on them through force, because he knows that's exactly what'll happen and that more people WILL get hurt, them included.

>that moment when he mouths "C'mon, Cap..." under his breath after begging Cap to come with him.

Jesus, I didn't expect this movie to make me like Stark. He just wants to prevent his friends from getting hurt, even if they hate him for it.

>>82430952
he is a real human being
unlike Captain America, the walking meme character

>>82430952
>the woman he loves leaves him, he fucks up and creates Ultron

Are we even sure Pepper has left him? From AoU it sounded like they were still together. Are people getting this idea because he hits on May? Or is there something else I missed?

nobody talking about the best cameo in the movie
captain dean-merica

>>82431755
>Are we even sure Pepper has left him?
They are separated but not broken up. She is still the head of his company and earning money for HIM to spend and waste. I think that is how Pepper is leaving it for now, in that she loves him enough to make sure he is provided for, but right now she doesn't what to deal with his mental issues.

Proper Demon in a Bottle adaption when??

>>82431776
Based Russos

>>82432076
Never. RDJ takes that subject material too personally.

>>82431755
Yes, she left him AFTER AoU. It's during Tony's introductory scene; the prompter he was reading from had him introducing Pepper, but it was an old version of the speech and she wasn't there. Later on, Tony opens up to Steve about his and Pepper's break after Steve was apprehended along with Bucky.

They were still together in AoU.

>>82432382
That's not the reason.

IM2 was supposed to be Demon in a Bottle but it was dropped because Marvel deliberately toned it down to market their alcoholic disaster of a person as a rolemodel to kids.

Welcome to Obama's Republic of Hitlerstan.

He really felt like Punished Tony after Civil War. I was never a big fan of Iron Man but I felt for the guy

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow."

-Mary Anne Radmacher

>>82433687
I now want someone to photoshop a horn and eyepatch on him

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>>82434152
>>82433687
Everyone ended up dead inside by the end of the movie.

>>82430952

Pretty spot on, except for the idea that Stark is ruled by logic rather than emotions.

The truth is that most of Stark's actions in the MCU are emotional reactions.

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Did anything go right?

>>82432382
Nigga, both RDJ and Favreau were working on making IM2 Demon in a Bottle.
Plus, if he had any issues with that, wouldn't you think he would have had issues with Civil War?
He also has problems regarding his own father because he was an abusive one.

>>82431755

They were still together in AOU.

But the fuck up with Ultron is basically a retread of the issue they were having in IM3.

Though, to pile more sadness on Tony, the whole reason he pushed for Ultron without ragard of the possible risk was just to quit and be with Pepper.

Like he said in IM3, we make our own demons.

Personally I felt the worst for Wanda out of all of them. That little cut-aside when Tony is in the prison and he sees that the military have her restrained like a goddamn animal was harsh.
You could see it on his face too. He was realizing just what side he'd taken.

>>82431224
Except Wanda. He was prepared to chuck her in a box for however long the UN deemed appropriate.

>>82430952
>the closest friend he had left

He still has Rhodey, Pepper, and Happy.

>>82434366
Doesn't he even say that she's treated that bad because she's not american?

The only reason Pepper left him is because Paltrow didn't want to do any more Marvel films. I hope she stays gone or they recast.

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Reminder that Bucky is a personality-less MacGuffin and wank object who has no purpose in the story other than for Cap to MUH over and if you like him you have bad taste.

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I enjoyed Scott in this movie, and his quip in prison was amusing - though i'm surprised Tony didn't have more of a reaction when Pym was mentioned.

That being said Clint was actually odd in this movie, i mean why was he SO pissed at Tony? I can imagine it was a "I go for 5 minutes and it all falls apart" but still

>>82434396
Just as Cap's willing to sign the accords too

>>82434322
>Personally I felt the worst for Wanda out of all of them. That little cut-aside when Tony is in the prison and he sees that the military have her restrained like a goddamn animal was harsh.
It also nearly replicates the bunker where the Winter Soldiers were locked up. You could be certain if the US government knows how to apply Winter Soldier level brainwashing on Wanda, they would do it in a heartbeat. As Tony said, she isn't American and has no rights. If they can make her into an obedient pawn by taking away her free will, the government WILL do it. There is no different between Soviet Union Hydra and a US government lead by Ross, they are just competing evil forces now.

>>82434396
Yeah, pretty much. Tony was a massive dick to Wanda in this film.

Of course, he had to be to give Cap a believable reason to resist the Accords. Despite what Stark fans are saying, it wasn't just about Bucky.

>>82434414
It was Howard who knew Pym, and he was a neglectful father to Tony.

>>82434414
>That being said Clint was actually odd in this movie, i mean why was he SO pissed at Tony? I can imagine it was a "I go for 5 minutes and it all falls apart" but still
Clint's always pissed off at Tony. It's a universal constant

>>82432382
Stop spreading misinformation, RDJ played a crippling alcoholic in Zodiac which released a year before IM1.

>>82434414
Because of Wanda, probably.

>>82430952
so is the movie good

>>82434508
Yes

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>>82434508
Yeah, there's a lot of subtle details about it that are quite good.
By far the best Avengers movie.

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It's a shame that Buck is a cuck in this movie. Winter Soldier was a fucking badass and his no-nonsense "come in with overwhelming back-up, shoot/bomb everything" style could've made him a terrifying threat to the Avengers as long as the three heaviest hitters aren't around. None of this stupid banter bullshit like QuipBot 9000 or Reindeer Games, just bullets, explosives, and a glare.

>>82434529
AAAHH T'CHALLA HELP ME

>>82434529
>that bit where he blocks his face
Jesus it got dark

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>>82434551
He's busy BLACKING Zemo.

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>>82434466

I just realized that Clint and Tony never really interacted prior to this movie.

>>82434402
>The only reason Pepper left him is because Paltrow didn't want to do any more Marvel films

I've heard the exact opposite.

>>82434529
wow
Iron Man suit is garbage

>>82434452
>>82434489
Fair enough

>>82434466
>>82434573
This is what i mean - he had no previous reason to hate him, i'm trying to figure out a reason more than just keeping Wanda under house arrest

>>82434208
He's still alive

>>82434538
He didn't want to use lethal force and hurt people. When his Winter Soldier mode is activated he's on par with Black Panther.

>>82434414
Tony was being a bad father figure to Wanda after Clint was a good one to her in AoU.

>>82434366
>in a box
>not a lavish mansion.

He's not wrong in that Wanda would not be treated like a weapon, and putting her in that house was the best he could do until the Accords were signed.

>>82434603
Clint's and Tony's personalities don't really jive--at the fault of no one. Tony hates Clint for being what Tony himself wants to be (Family guy, pretty cool dude, able to hold his own with the Avengers without a power suit and just generally stable) And Clint resents him for being who he wants to be (Full time superhero, no family holding him back, etc)
Think George Harrison and John Lennon early Beatles.
Keep in mind Clint also is a fatherly type to Wanda as Joss Whendon (hamfistedly) tried to show us in AoU and he seems to have a strong fatherly instinct in general.
So basically, you fucked with the nest and now I have to fuck back with you.

>>82434681
>And Clint resents him for being who he wants to be (Full time superhero, no family holding him back, etc)
What?

Yeah i guess DaddyHawk is the best explanation

>>82434366
Didn't she fuck up a major population area vie the Hulk just one movie ago? Fuck her. She completely fucked over Banner.

>>82434592
That's what happens when you're constantly making them smaller and smaller. Mark 46 looks really nice, but the transition from complete suits to half cgi suits from Iron Man 3 to AoU is jarring.

>>82434208
Rhodey, Happy, and Vision still like him.

And Steve left him an Avengers Beeper.

>>82434573

They sort of did. Not to the level of Cap and Tony, but he and Tony quipped together and talked in Avengers 1 and he had the "Pretending the team needs this guy brings up together" moment with Clint in AoU as well as when he suggested Clint try to contact Widow through old spy stuff.

It's not that much, but honestly I think Tony and Clint interacted more than Cap and Clint did in the Avengers films, so Clint siding with Cap and telling off Tony seems weird.

I think they just shoehorned him in for the sake of having him (or because they want him with Cap's Secret Avengers for another movie down the line) and put him with Cap because he was Anti government control following Civil War in the comics (but he sat out the actual event, though he made it clear he'd be with Cap if he fought in it)

>>82434768

They've been using half CGI suits since IM 2. They only built a full suit in IM1 and quickly released it was a terrible idea because you could barely move in it so it was CGI half the time anyway.

>>82434529
>Cap actually kept his mask on this time until after the final battle was over.

Good. This is like the first time that's happened in the MCU.

>>82434572
>Zemo in that hold
>"I shouldn't have deleted that voice mail. Now I'm sure to forget her voice in time.

>>82434656
And then send her to the jail to be kept forever in the straight jacket?

>>82434836

Has there been any kind of restitution on her part in the damage Ultron caused or the Hulk? If not, yes. Put her in prison.

>>82434852
The Accords.
They are precisely meant to prevent that from happening.

>>82430952
Were you happy, disappointed or indifferent that none of the heroes died.

>>82434815

Nah he had on it for almost all of the final battle in Winter Soldier too. (He only takes it off when he's stopped fighting Bucky because the carriers were shut down)

>>82434529
>>82434572

So which torrent is ok to grab? Can't be having the gubmint taking my house over watching a movie 4 days early.

>>82434873
I had enough suffering without having to deal with more forced drama

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What can we expect to happen if protesters were to hurt Ivanka /po/?

>>82434873
I was indifferent to it. I kinda of wanted Cap to die, but still how it played out was good enough for me.

>>82434875
It's from a spanish one.
I wouldn't trust any english camrips until it comes out in USA.

>>82434873
Tony died on the inside

>>82434538
If Bucky was killing people in this movie of his own volition then it would have only proved that he wasn't worth Steve protecting and that he wasn't redeemable. He only was doing as much as to defend himself.

>>82434864
The world isn't their playground. If they destroy things they do not own and cannot replace then they need to be controlled. If they get people dead and/or almost kill all humans then oversight is necessary.

In the real world I'd want explosive collars on all of them. 24/7.

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So do the MCU Black Panthers pass their powers down when they retire or is there no magical Wakandan super herb here?

Because both T'Chaka and T'Challa were caught in the blast, but T'Challa was relatively fine apart from the deep, long-lasting emotional scars.

>>82434899
Oh well.

>>82434932
Thing is, there's always going to be colateral damage, they are heroes, but they are no Superman, they don't have the abilities to make everything go 100% right.

If you start treating them like animals and tools that can be discarded, when all of them are just doing this because they feel it's the right thing to do, not because they asked them, they are just going to give up.

>>82431776
>Not Capdean America

>>82431776
>>82434959
What?

>>82434681
>So basically, you fucked with the nest and now I have to fuck back with you.
It is also a fact that Wanda was only recruited into the Avengers becaus Clint invited her. And if she never joined them she would have been free back in Europe. So Clint would feel personally responsible for this new recruit he brought in.

>>82434932
thing is that the government would abuse them.

remember Operation Northwoods it would be just like that but with superheroes

>>82434873
Didn't matter.
Would rather have a final fight with emotional stakes than something like Age of Ultron were someone dies but no one cares because the film is shit, even if both parties end up surviving.

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>>82434964

>>82434932
Cap is right.

All that red tape is what's stopping real good from being implemented in the world. All those committee and bureaucracy. The terrorists and other criminals of the world don't care about "excessive force," why should the guys that fight them do? If some guys from across the pond ride in with the intention of fixing your problems, why would you stop them? Just get out of the damn way.

>>82434899
Why? The english rip is completely fine.

>>82434972
Especially since her brother died protecting him.

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>>82434941
ayo hol up
Where all the Black Panther fanart at?
I need it.

>>82434964
>>82434959
>>82431776
I could not believe it was him. I thought it was some other guy that resembled him, but it was really him.

>>82434941
Warrior and King are two different things

T'Challa had the power from the very start, but now he became king much earlier than anyone anticipated

>>82434976
>Would rather have a final fight with emotional stakes than something like Age of Ultron were someone dies but no one cares because the film is shit, even if both parties end up surviving.
Yep. If a major superhero does we wouldn't care because he would she would be resurrected soon enough. If a minor character died we would just move on and not give a damn. Killing characters just doesn't have that kind of impact with Comic stories because it is really over used.

So Everett Ross is coming back for Black Panther right?

They wouldn't have gotten Martin Freeman just 2 minutes of screen time right?
Also guys didn't you find it really weird that Scott decided to participate. I mean doesn't this go against his motivations in AM1?

Also Peter was okay, but damn the voice was jarring and the fact that He wasn't knowledgeable about Starwars. Jesus Christ how can you even call him a nerd.

>>82434573
>That country in the middle of Serbia, Macedonia, Albania and the other one.
Ah Kos, or some say Kosm, do you here our prayers?

>>82435009
Yes, he was just setup for Black Panther.
http://screenrant.com/captain-america-civil-war-martin-freeman-black-panther/

>>82435009
>I mean doesn't this go against his motivations in AM1?
>>82434972
>>82434992

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>>82435000
There's so much.

>>82435009
Yeah.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/03/spider-man-captain-america-civil-war
By "ever so briefly" they're probably talking about Freeman and Zemo.

>>82435014
I'm talking about Ant-man

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>>82435000
Nice trips.

>>82435009
>They wouldn't have gotten Martin Freeman just 2 minutes of screen time right?

It was so weird how not-British Bilbo sounded.

so how many times was spiderman in the movie and what was his role

>>82435041
Ant-Man does a lot of illegal things in order to save the day. The government owning him as a hero and his suit would go completely against what Pym wants.

>>82435041
>I'm talking about Ant-man
Ah, in that case he was helping Capitan America. I mean, why would anyone refuse, when Captain America ask for aid?

>>82435065
Ever seen him in Fargo?

>>82435009
>He wasn't knowledgeable about Starwars

Empire Strikes Back is 36 years old. That qualifies as being an old movie.

>>82434538

He can't do that unless he's got Hydra's complete support. And they're pretty much low key now.

>>82435102
Yeah, seems like what happened in TWS has almost destroyed HYDRA.

Who else here hype for Civil War? The colored people have seen it and now we first worlders get to see it. Who else is seeing it in IMAX?

>>82435126
What's up with this guy trying to bait people into fighting over countries in every single Civil War thread?

>>82435126
>Who else is seeing it in IMAX?

You really should. There are a lot of great action scenes that would really benefit from the enhanced videos and audio.

>>82435083
Yet he's still a nerd. I mean didn't Peter read comics in 60s & 70s, and doesn't Spidey make mention of him playing video games?

I mean you'd think a nerd like him would at least watch Starwars.

I can only forgive this if there's a scene at the end of Homecoming of Tony arranging a theater to pay all 7 movies and Pete and his friends get free tickets. Bonus points if MJ and Gwen sit on either side of him and Peter is sweating like crazy.

>>82434538
>"come in with overwhelming back-up, shoot/bomb everything"
>those pilots running out saying Cap needs air support lets go
I didn't ask for background character feels. Why'd Bucky do that?

>>82435153
>I mean you'd think a nerd like him would at least watch Starwars.

The takedown implied that he did. He knew how the AT-ATs were beaten.

Real spoiler talk here

Who lost it when ____Ant-man when giant size_____.

Also for a brief bit I thought Rhodey might actually bite it.

>>82435142
??

Sorry if I phrased something poorly. Just excited for this film and I'm glad the troglodytes like it.

>>82435186
Oh my god, it's really the same guy, this is hilarious.

>>82435180
I was more shocked when Spider-Man said "HOLY SHIT!"

>>82430952
Well he gets fuck Aunt May so it's not all that Gloomy.

>>82435180
>Who lost it when ____Ant-man when giant size_____.
OHOHOHOHO

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>>82435197

>>82435153
>a nerd like him would at least watch Starwars.
Last years biggest movie was Star Wars. Everyone has seen it. It isn't nerdy to watch Star Wars.
The weird thing is how he's like have you heard of Star Wars when Star Wars made 2 billion dollars last year.

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>>82435203
Been there, done her.

>>82434989
They've been heroing on their own for years. The world has plenty of new craters to show for it. They almost got everyone killed. On their own.

Red tape my slow them down. But we've seen what happens when they hurry around doing their own thing. Slow isn't bad. Oversight isn't bad. If you can't convince well meaning people that you aren't going to almost get everyone dead, *again*, then tough shit.

>>82434681

>And Clint resents him for being who he wants to be (Full time superhero, no family holding him back, etc)

I don't think you get Clint at all.

Anyway, Clint is probably more pissed about what Wanda is going through thanks to the Accords than anything else.

>>82435212
Why would superheroes watch genre movies when their lives are all ready genre movies, is what was probably going through Peter's head. Like, these guys are too cool to watch my nerd stuff, ABLOO BLOO.

>>82435244
Star Wars isn't nerd stuff. It's mainstream blockbuster.

>>82434815

He had the mask on the whole time in Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron.

>>82435112
>tfw the Chosen Ward will never appear in movies
>Only Alien god will be Thanos

>>82435221
So the next time the Chitauri or the Dark Eveles or a bunch of Lava Cripples kidnap the President, they should sit on their hands?

Sorry trafficked child sex slaves, the Vision couldn't save you. The Secretary of State had a long potty break.

>>82435271
He got his helmet knocked off towards the end of the fight in Winter Soldier when Bucky was pounding his face in.

>>82434932

Yes. Those collars sure will help when HYDRA, AIM, Ultron or whatever new threat is about to destory everything.

>>82435126

What are you guys on about? I'm in the UK and we got to see it Friday?

Tony a shit. Bucky was brainwashed, and he knew this. The entire final conflict of the movie was his fault, for letting Zemo bait him and not keeping his shit together.

>>82430952
A lot of people go through being unloved by thier parents and being divorced. Except they aren't billionaire geniuses so they just have alcoholism.

>>82435331
Don't respond to the bait dumbass.

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>>82435346

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>>82435000
It's coming

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>>82434572
>shhh whiteboi it'll all be over soon

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>suddenly /co/ hates her
Why.

>>82430952
Cap has had a much worse life, whereas Tony brought everything upon himself by being a dumb fuck.

>>82435357
Is this how Bucky will feel when he becomes the meat in the Falcon/Panther sandwich?

>>82435153

>I mean you'd think a nerd like him would at least watch Starwars.

Him calling the movie old doesn't mean he hasn't seen it.

It's explicit that he has.

>>82435180
Just got home from seeing the movie, your first spoiler there got me good, mouth agape and eyes wide

>>82430952
mcu's movies by definition are flicks for people to watch, laugh, and move on. like any other blockbuster.

it has the depth of a marshmallow
the thing is, you cannot officially criticize civil war, because the marvel patrol will flame you to death

>>82435292

Yeah, the very end, for the last emotional punch that Bucky needed.

He had it on every time he fought in the suit, except at SHIELD HQ when he got betrayed.

>>82434411
Bucky really is a shit, no wonder Tumblr loves him. They always favor characters with no personality or character so they can easily project whatever bullshit they want onto him.

>>82435346

What Bait?

I'm not even joking here, how have the Americans, the people who made the fucking movie, and the comics it was based on, not seen it yet?
It's entirely counter-intuitive that the movie would be released internationally before it's released domestically surely....

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>>82435420
Why the fuck are you complaining about this in every single thread, we already told you.

Foreign positive reception generates hype so that more americans go see it because domestic box office is much more profiteable than foreign one.

>>82434836
Tony didn't even know about the Raft. Her situation in there is exactly what he was trying to prevent

>>82435438

Different person actually. I was unaware that we got the movies this side of the pond before you got them in the US.

Makes up for how long we have to wait to get TV shows I suppose

>>82435284
>So the next time the Chitauri or the Dark Eveles or a bunch of Lava Cripples kidnap the President, they should sit on their hands?

No, they can go save the day with the backing of the guys with all the jets and satellites.

However, when they decide to make a new artificial intelligence or let an alien take the guy who bombed Manhattan with other, different aliens for a trip home some adult can smack their hands and say "no".

>>82434592
Not really. He's fighting off two superhumans beating the absolute piss out of him and one of them has a shield made out of the metal that reflects kinetic energy.

>>82435461
>Tony used to be suspicious of the government and didn't want them getting a hold of his new tech.
>Tony eventually gives in to government meddling.
>Tony supports government attempt to regulate the Avengers for political reasons. Figures nothing could go wrong.
>Tony is surprised the government has a secret prison built for the super powered heroes.
lol

While people like CW so much?
It was mediocre. Spider-Man was the only saving grace, and he had a shitty costume

>>82435339
>Tony a shit. Bucky was brainwashed, and he knew this.

And he is still fucking brainwashed. At any moment some asshole can say the magic words and have a guy who can outrun a car and punch ironman hard enough to effect him twisting the heads off school children. That dude is a menace.

Is it Bucky's fault? No. But don't mistake that for a reason to leave him on the street.

>>82435418
I liked him in the first film. More subdued than Thor but a cool big brother figure who's always looking out for his bro. A bit superficial and self-conscious so he gets jealous of Cap but he can't hold it too much against him and realizes it's kind of a dumb thing to be upset about overall. Also a bit of a troll and mopey and self-conscious sometimes. He spends a lot of on the run but you see some of it peek through in Civil War.

>>82435503

That is fair. Except they mostly wanted him for execution and to set an example.

The right thing to do is what they do at the end, froze him again until they can determine how to deprogram him.

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Do you think any of them has PTSD?

>>82435515
you area fucking dumbass

>>82435533
>no boob grab
Disappoint

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>>82435538
He did earlier.

>>82435470
>However, when they decide to make a new artificial intelligenc

That was literally just Tony and Bruce playing around in his lab. Are they going to have Tony under constant surveiliance and insist that anything he or his company work on be approved through them? Because that's something completely different.

>or let an alien take the guy who bombed Manhattan with other, different aliens for a trip home some adult can smack their hands and say "no".

They were still under oversight from SHIELD then, and the same thing would have happened. They'd have let Thor do what he wanted because otherwise they're going to war with Asgard, a higher dimensional nation filled with superhumans. Let's see the Accords comittee try to tell Thor what to do, without starting an interdimensional incident.

However the Accords certainly did a good job of trying to kill an innocent man because he was the most convinient and available target now didn't they.

The Accords are BS. They'd never work.

>>82435550
>dat powerslide
madman

>>82435550
>Chris Evans will never spontaneously jump out at you in the bathroom

>>82435550
I thought it was just that one picture but I love that Chris Evans genuinely laughs with his hand over his chest.

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>>82435596
He always does.

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>>82435607

>>82435470
The government overseers were in the process of nuking Manhatten until the Avengers intervened

>>82435607
>grabbing her knee
She gon get some freedom tonight if you know what I'm saying

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>>82435515
Pre-brainwash Bucky was a true bro, will he ever come back?

>>82435420
>I'm not even joking here, how have the Americans, the people who made the fucking movie, and the comics it was based on, not seen it yet?
Actually it is because of different holidays.

I know at least for both Australia and Japan, the opening week coincides with a Labour Day long weekend or the Japanese Gold Week. This is done because the studio get 90% of the ticket sales as their profits in the opening week, and less as the weeks go on. So to maximise profits Marvel arrange the opening day to match major holidays so they have the maximum number of people having the spare time to go see it that week and not any other week.

Major holidays are often different for every country, so the release date is different.

This isn't done for BvS because DC expected bad reviews, and want as many people to see it as possible before the bad word of mouth sinks the film.

>>82435633
yes. albeit he returns as a girl

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>>82435621
I think he creeped her out.

>>82435614
>you will never grab Evans' big juicy tits

jdimsa

>>82435479
>Iron Man 1
>Takes a hit from a tank shell and is generally alright after wards
>Destroys said tank with a little missile in his arm
>Avengers
>Takes a bunch of hits from a peeved Thor, and a direct hammer strike to the chest and lives
>Is able to somewhat hurt, or at least push back Thor, and is strong enough to lift and change the direction of a nuke
>Civil War
>A couple of light strike from cap's shield breaks his repulsors
>Bucky is able to crush his hand almost as easily as Thor
>Actually gets staggered by Cap's and Bucky's normal punches
>Almost gets his arc reactor ripped off by Bucky
>Cap beats him in a hand to hand fight, when he should have gone down in one punch
I mean, is his suit just shit in this, or does cap actually punch harder than a tank shell and Thor?

>>82435558
>They'd have let Thor do what he wanted because otherwise they're going to war with Asgard, a higher dimensional nation filled with superhumans.

As opposed to just letting them send other aliens at us whenever. That's the second time Asgard is directly responsible for attacks on Earth. Loki should have been tried for crimes against humanity at the Hague.

Thor is an exception. They're all tough but they're not bullet-proof.

>>82435375
She is a piece of shit

>>82435648
>Not wanting to fuck Evans to adorable handsome autistic
What a goddamn homosexual

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>>82435550
>HE DID IT AGAIN

>>82435657
i havnt seen civil war yet but from if he using armour simalr to the mark42 they might not be as strong

>>82435615
>The government overseers

That might not have been the worst possible decision. Had the avengers failed a lot of things might be preferable to an endless horde of alien troops.

>>82435657
>Implying anything is stronger than FREEDOM
Also Cap is alot stronger in the MCU than in 616.

>>82435648
>she doesn't want to fuck Evans

What is she, gay?

>>82435688
As strong as Thor? because it looked like Iron Man was doing a whole lot better in his fight vs Thor in Avengers 1.

>>82435682
A non-endless group of aliens that can be taken down by conventional weapons? They didn't even think of sending in the armed forces first?

>>82435672
evans should play joker.

>>82435657
It's not that he got hit once, it's that he got hit about fifty times by a man that can punch a person fifteen yards wearing a shield that laughed off Mjolnir like it was nothing and reflects kinetic energy, pretty much doubling the force.

>>82435671
>>82435689
She's just a bit shy.
I remember that she deleted all her social media because she was getting famous.

>>82435633
Stan seems to think so, he just never gets much of a chance to show it because he's fighting all the time. Also he's not really the quippy type. The Russos say he's more like a new person now but it seems to me like a matter of semantics. For a guy who values appearances and how people perceive him being one of the world's most wanted criminals and actually being guilty of it would probably affect him pretty hard.

>>82435147
My options were either watch it in English in average cinema or watch it in German in an IMAX.
I choose for first.

>>82435550
>that leg tremble and aftermath face
Fuck, he got her good.

>>82434169
fake

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>>82435731
And gay?

>>82435647
You mean Rikki? I don't think she's showing up in the MCU, though Bucky has siblings so maybe.

>>82435682

Except the Avengers were winning, and even regular guys with regular weapons like Widow and Hawkeye were downing them, so some actual ground force backup would have helped much more than just nuking the whole place and killing everyone in New York.

They just pushed for that because the Council member played by Powers Boothe was Hydra (as AoS revealed) and wanted the Avengers killed so they wouldn't be a threat to them. Which ties into Governments not being trustable.

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>>82435420
>What bait?
>Troglodytes
>First worlders
>Coloured people
>muh 'America is great' meme
If you hadn't already tried this I might've given you points but because you're beating the dead horse you just get a (You)

>>82435754
I don't know. It felt a little bland

>>82435633
>their relationship started off with Steve being the tsundere and Bucky always being protective/pursuing him
>now it's the other way around

Poetry

>>82435712
she's too pure for this world

>>82435703
>A non-endless group of aliens

We know that. We know that because there was a camera there for us. All they had to go by was huge battle-ship sized fucking flying worms spitting out guys with blasters.

Troops aren't magic. By the time conventional troops could be mustered to the area a nuke might not have been possible. There was no way to tell the extent of their technological superiority.

>>82435712
Aw, that's kind of cute :3

>>82434873
What died was whatever friendship Tony and Steve had left.
A good way to do it too.
Have a scene that resembkes the old clear up misunderstandings and then reconciliation. And then that bombshell drops.

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>>82435664
She's just like Tony, she made mistakes and now is trying to pay for them.

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>>82435772
He's basically Grumpy Cat.

>>82435754
>Except the Avengers were winning, and even regular guys with regular weapons like Widow and Hawkeye were downing them

They were downing the small guy shaped alien monsters that could leap tall buildings. Not the huge fuck ass flying worms that were coming through a giant whole in the sky.

>>82435698

Tony was getting destroyed there until Cap interrupted the fight.

>>82434873
Why should I be so keen about Superheroes dying?

Tony is a fuckup who deserves everything he gets. When you're fighting against Captain America you know you fucked up.

>>82435778
In real life the government/armed forces have ways of gathering information to formulate strategies, they wouldn't jump straight to NUKE THE SHIT OUT OF OUR OWN TERRITORY just because a small amount of alien ground troops are attacking part of one city.

They would at least start off with more conventional ordinance.

>>82435794
Multiple Leviathans are destroyed during the battle.

>>82435808
Cap was protecting the man who killed Tony's parents. I'm not sure if Tony will ever be able to forgive Bucky, even if he WAS brainwashed.

>>82435657
Can't be bothered to type up a full explanation but two things
1. The suit was damaged
2. Iron-Man's weapons are mostly lethal, he didn't want to kill cap but he did want to kill bucky. Different situation from destryoing inanimate objects or fighting a literal god who would slay you otherwise.

And lastly Cap wasn't holding back, hence he managed to overwhelm Stark until he plugged into the matrix.

>>82435810

This isn't real life, its comic books.

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>>82435810
>just because a small amount of alien ground troops

>ground troops

These were coming in through a hole in reality. This isn't a ground troop. The only reason there weren't more of these (not ground troops) was because Thor was up there trying to slow them down.

>>82435825
>Multiple Leviathans are destroyed during the battle.

By a giant green guy that the army couldn't stop and never could.

>>82434873
Happy. Character deaths are a very cheap way to garner emotion from an audience or to resolve a plot point.

If you can still strike an emotional chord and give a sense of resolution without simply killing off a character, you did it right. And honestly, I feel that getting a disability/maimed in action like Rhodes is a far more chilling fate than death. Imagine if Supes lost an arm in combat with DD instead of dying.

>>82431639
I think you're thinking of Supper man, Steve was wrong and it was because he's human.

>>82435825

JUst three.

One by Hulk with an assist from Iron Man's bunker buster, one by Hulk with an assist by Thor and Mjolnir, and one by Iron Man solo, after getting swallowed and using all his explosives.

And many more were coming.

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>>82434466
Hawkeye's meant to be brash and always trying to challenge leadership, it's just Whedon sucks and never got him right.

West coast Avengers with Hawkeye as the leader with supporting Ant-man movie when???

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>>82435712
I love her.

>>82435810
>They would at least start off with more conventional ordinance.

That might have been a huge mistake. Who knows what kind of other technology the aliens could have brought to bear once they had a foothold. I guarantee they'd have at least some knowledge of our capabilities.

The only reason to invade over a population center like that is to preclude our use of certain tactics.

>>82435486
Because people have better taste than you

>>82435897
she looks like a dude with a wig

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>>82435041
At first, Ant-Man was asked for aid in order to fight the supersoldiers and not team Tony.

>>82435828
I think there will be a point they have to reconcile and come to amends. Both of them have pretty severe ptsd and trauma they both need to overcome, and part of that is forgiving each other.

>>82435949
That's your whole argument? Because somehow I doubt it. The movie was very mediocre.
Spider-Man was good. And that's it.

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>>82435959
Stop projecting your transexuality on others, anon.

>>82435969
Forgive Tony for what? Tony's done a lot of things wrong, but his anger towards Bucky is technically justified.

>>82435969
>I think there will be a point they have to reconcile and come to amends

Some shit you do not forgive. Murdering your mother is definitely one of those things. A flying thundergod is more realistic than forgiving your mother's killer.

>>82435982
Look at her cheeks and nose. Like Michael Jackson
Just look at them. And these tiny, tired eyes

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>>82435982
I want to hug her!

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>>82435996
>I've never seen a real person before

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>>82435996
>tiny eyes

So which heroes do you think Spider-Man's gonna fight in the next team-up? As we all know, Spider-Man's incapable of teaming up with anyone without getting into a fight with them first.

About Cap vs. Spidey

You'd think that spiderman and cap would have come to blows more often in comics since they're both big names. As it is I tried comparing them to how well they both fared against Wolverine. Judging from that Spidey wins hands down.

>>82434481
>played
suuuure

>>82436011
>implying her eyes are real

>>82436017
this is big? for you?

>>82430952
>>82430952
>Giving the villain a hug

>>82436044
I'd say current Peter's probably superior to Cap overall in the comics. He has a lot of experience, his own unique martial arts and a lot better gear.

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>>82436051
>her eyes are not real
What?

>>82436068
he really did it?
absolute madman
jesus christ, it's cringe. fuck, I'm not going to watch this movie

>>82436068
Funny thing, I think you misread Stark as Steve. Next time look at the picture for context clues.

>>82436080
How can her eyes be real? Look at the mirror, it's not real either

>>82436080
How can her eyes be real if mirrors aren't real?

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>>82436051
Sorry anon, us normal people with our normal sized eyes forgot to include you. This pic might be more your style.
Also,
>her eyes aren't real
how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?

>>82436103
>4chan
>normal
nice try

>>82436110
>we're all bug-people here
fug I forgot

>>82436113
we are weaboos. of course we like huge eyes

>>82431776
Was amazing, like he was his exact charatcer

>>82436122
somebody sure is a weeaboo

>>82435984
And Bucky killing his parents while brainwashed is "technically justified" too, because he literally had no control over it. Between the two, Tony is the one that acted under his own volition and tried to kill Bucky and attacked his best friend instead of helping them take down the villain they came to stop. I'm not saying Tony doesn't have the right to be upset, I totally understand why he snapped, but after he cools down and reflects, he's gotta realize that he didn't handle it the right way.

Bucky feels guilty for the shit he's done, but it wasn't his fault, and Tony really needs to come to terms with that for his own fucking mental stability because that man needs therapy just as much. Channeling his hatred onto Bucky is like getting pissed off at a chair when you stub your toe. Tony isn't going to accept the shit that happened and recover and move on from it until he understands that Bucky is just as much of a victim as his parents. Not saying they need to be best friends, but they need to be able to see the other's side eventually.

>Ross getting pissy over them 'losing' Thor

Thor is the prince of an entire alternate dimension, he was working WITH you, not FOR you.

>>82435961

Yeah. Same with Clint actually. Steve didn't recruit them to fight against the accords, just help him find Zemo and shut him down, at which point they could leave. Scott especially as he would have been completely anonymous had he not been captured.

Though thinking about it Clint somehow gets him Wanda and Scott from the US to Germany. Since this requires an aircraft of some sort why the hell did they need to steal a Quinjet?

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>>82436051
What kind of homosexual are you?

>>82436145

Yeah I mean Thor went home. What the hell does Ross thing he could do about it? It's well within his rights to leave.

>>82436139
I know. It's outlandish to think that someone on korean image board is a weaboo

>>82436148
hetero. I like girls looking like girls. not like michael jackson jr

>>82435897
t. Vision

>>82435944

Uh no. They appeared over New York because they needed Stark Tower's generator to power their portal.

>>82436096
There's no misreading, it's about as blunt as possible in his portral as the main antagonist of the MCU. This movie treats Stark as Ozzymandias, where it goes out of his way to say how right he is because of a strawman ideology, but you know it's not gonna work because Zeemo is a part of Hydra and Tony signed his rights away to be their bitch willingly.

>>82435712
Can't blame her, seeing as she's seen close up what overwhelming fame has done to her sisters.

>>82436144
>Bucky feels guilty for the shit he's done, but it wasn't his fault

Bucky knows that any second someone can tell him a secret password and have him go apeshit killing people and fights like hell to stay free and on the streets instead of in a fucking cell where he can't kill innocent people.

Bucky is putting people at risk and he knows it.

>>82436173
>Yeah I mean Thor went home. What the hell does Ross thing he could do about it? It's well within his rights to leave.
What does Ross think he could do? He think he could imprison a prince from a technologically superior nation and somehow obtain his power without consent. Like maybe brainwash him or something. Because one thing is for sure, Ross never stopped wanting slave super-soldiers and ethics never stopped him from trying. All to serve the American Empire.

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>>82436183
Scarlet Witch is a pretty girl, anon.

>>82436201
*portrayal

>>82436204
It wasn't fame, it was massive amounts of coke along with anorexia.

>>82435738
I meant the implication that the song plays.

>>82436210
>Bucky is putting people at risk and he knows it.
Bucky considered the possibility of him dying being better off for everyone. But despite it being convenient, it isn't justice. He is a victim and you don't just kill victims because it is easier.

>>82436214
only if you've never seen a girl...

>>82436221
But she's dead inside by the end of the movie.

>>82436147
Wasn't the house she was being kept at in Germany?

>>82436173
>Yeah I mean Thor went home. What the hell does Ross thing he could do about it? It's well within his rights to leave.

Thor's people owe Earth. Their problems keep becoming our problem.

>>82436196
>They appeared over New York because they needed Stark Tower's generator to power their portal.

I'm pretty sure that was a jab at Tony. Any nuclear power plant probably would have worked just as well. Also: powerlines are a thing. Ever look up?

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>>82436225
Come on anon, she's cute.

>>82436233

I'm pretty sure Clint picks her up at the Avenger's compound, which I'm pretty sure was in the US.

>>82436229
You must've missed the part where Cap broke them all out of The Raft

>>82436233
It was the Avengers compound in NY

>>82436223
>He is a victim and you don't just kill victims because it is easier.

You're aware that there's a difference between being incarcerated and being killed, right? Also: tough shit. Prisons are full of people with hard luck stories. Those people can't outrun cars and throw people thirty yards though.

>>82436252
I don't think she'll forget that the world wants to treat her like an animal.

>>82436247
in a pitbull way

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>>82436247
Oh I see what's going on here anon.
We've been 'baited'.
It's a classic 4chan technique where an anonymous poster will deliberately post something he or she knows is provocative for the purpose of getting replies.
We've sure been 'baited' by this master 'baiter'.

>>82436256
>You're aware that there's a difference between being incarcerated and being killed, right?
Officially the UN gave the order to kill on sight, and Ross refuse to change that order despite being given proof that Bucky was ionnocent. So no you are the one who is mistaken, there was no attempt to capture Bucky alive, the order is to kill him because they needed someone to take the blame. The fact that Bucky didn't blow up the UN as irrelevant.

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>>82436264
Why is this place so gay.

>>82436270
I didn't know that liking women is bait

>>82436286
okay, this one is actually cuter, albeit she still looks like pitbull

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>>82436210
Bucky was keeping his head down and a shitty apartment where nobody was supposed to be able to find him and he wouldn't be a risk. At that point turning himself over to any authorities probably seemed like the unsafest option, given that as he knew it Hydra was infecting every organization and would likely use him to kill again the second he turned himself over.

He surrendered at the end of the chase and didn't break out despite being capable until he was triggered by Zemo, which was the situation he was trying to avoid before. He then went off with Steve because he thought Zemo was about to unleash an even greater threat than himself, so he was trying to at least put his abilities to good.

And then at the end, yeah, he got scared of how easily controlled he still is and put himself back into cyro until somebody can figure out a way to deprogram his triggers.

But that doesn't make him responsible for the assassinations that Hydra forced him to do, or deserving of being killed by Tony for things he already hates himself over. Both Bucky and Tony need to come to terms with this shit.

Sebastian Stan has stated that Bucky probably would have killed himself if it weren't for Steve.

Sounds like he's trying to do things

>>82436234
>Thor's people owe Earth. Their problems keep becoming our problem.
>'Their' problems
>'owe'
The Asgardians, the Dark Elves, the Frost Giants, the Tesseract... all of these have been around for since the dawn of time. Great battles have been fought on Earth before. Earth is not some kind of sad wife being beaten for no understandable reason, she was just completely ignorant of what has come before.

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>>82436299
She's really cute.

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>>82436286
anon I'm on sure side here what the fug dude

>>82436299
Quiet you, you've got enough of (You) from me for today.

>>82436302
this is depressingly accurate

>>82436324
>Earth is not some kind of sad wife being beaten for no understandable reason, she was just completely ignorant of what has come before.
So Earth is a retarded stepson being beaten for no understandable reason?

>>82436256

Except the whole reason Steve was protecting him was because the governments wanted him dead because they wanted a scapegoat for the bombing and it would be more convienient for them if Bucky was dead.

The only reason they took him alive the first time was because Steve and Sam protected him until Rhodes arrived and got him to give himself up. Which was ruined by Zemo setting him off again. Then Tony wanted to take him alive but was gonna hand him over to the same guys that wanted to kill him in the first place.

Bucky knows he's dangerous. That's why he has Tchalla freeze him again. But until then everyone wanted to kill him.

>>82436327
well, half of her head is covered, so I can agree with this one. if she only hid heir teeth...

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>>82436344
But she looks better when she's smiling.

>>82436350
>Wanda
>smiling
Pick one and only one

>>82436331

Earth is being beaten because it's one of the Realms and the Realms have problems. And Asgard deals with them.

Sometimes the Realms problems leak into Earth but that's the price you pay for you know...existing. It's not Asgard's fault the majority of humanity don't know just how big the universe is and what's in it.

>>82436350
she should do something about that moles

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>>82436356
I'll cheat and get the two.

>>82436283
>Officially the UN gave the order to kill on sight

And they never made any attempts to peacefully surrender, did they? Of course not. People arrange that kind of thing every day all over the world, it happens all the time with regular ass criminals all the time. Even cop killers.

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>>82436356
please do not remind me

>>82436362
this is better, the image is cloudy and I can barely see her

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T3UYfzRPik

I think the whole Pro/Anti-Accords people will appreciate the gag at 0:40

>>82436321
>But that doesn't make him responsible for the assassinations that Hydra forced him to do, or deserving of being killed by Tony for things he already hates himself over.

The world is full of actual jungles and shit. No kids for him to twist the heads off in there. No parents to kill.

>Both Bucky and Tony need to come to terms with this shit.

You'll find that the son of a murdered mother doesn't have to come to terms with shit. Having Tony ever forgive Bucky or be willing to let bygones be bygones is less realistic than mjolnir.

>Sounds like he's trying to do things

Sounds like he isn't trying hard enough. Trigger words are a problem? His eardrums aren't made of vibranium are they? (they probably wouldn't work if they were now that I think on it)

>>82436324
Loki, Loki, the Destroyer. Asgard is responsible for a lot actually. Tell the people in New York that Asgard doesn't owe them shit.

>>82436338
>it would be more convienient for them if Bucky was dead.

It would be safer too.

Man, I'm glad RDJ was able to negotiate more screen time. He really helped make the movie good.

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>>82436369
That's still rude.

So with the post credits scene, does Bucky willingly just let himself go back into the ice so he doesn't do anymore damage? Wouldn't this just put an absolute mindfuck on Cap since he doesn't really have anyone he knows anymore?

>>82434916
This one is truly underrated.

Also, who else was heartwarmed by Tony being like the big tech bro/father to Spider Boy ?

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>tfw this was made a year ago and fucking called it

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>>82436427
you know I was complaining that this was taking the bait but actually keep going you're really helping me fill up my waifu folder

>>82436430
He goes back into ice until they figure out a way to get rid of the brainwashing forever.
Dr. Strange might help with that in IW.

>>82436430
Nigga we weren't just memeing when we said everyone suffered. This movie might as well have been called Captain Suffering: Suffering War

>>82436440
4u >>>hr/2605521

>>82436430
Basically yes. He does it so he's contained and safe while they work on a way to purge his brain of mental conditioning.
Probably fucks Steve's shit up but at least he knows Bucky is alive and where he is this time.

>>82436405
>the Destroyer.

Not only did the Destroyer seemingly not kill anyone, but the Asgardians let Shield keep it's remains and reverse engineer it.

>Loki

Just because he's born in Asgard doesn't make Asgard responsible for his actions. And despite this they used a significant portion of their leaders power (that's needed to protect all the realms) to send their crown prince to earth to stop him.

That doesn't mean they get to keep him as a servant.

And of course the main reason all these threats are showing up is because as Thor said, earth and Shield kept experimenting with super tech to improve humanity.

And when humanity shows it wants to play with the big boys the big boys play back. If they can't take a bloody nose then they shouldn't toy with stuff beyond them.

CAP DID NOTHING WRONG

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>>82436440
>he didn't waifu her back when AoU came out

>>82436405
Asgard doesn't. Thanos would have used another agent if Loki was not around. The Infinity Stone on Earth would have gained his attention eventually.

>>82436436
Maybe it's just me but I always thought Bucky looked really weird and not Sebastian Stan-like in this shot.

>>82434873
No didn't really care

>>82436441
In the comics it was Tony who removed all the trigger words right? Guess T'Challa is taking over for him.

>>82436463
>>82436440
I remember when we all kept saying she was a whore and that guy kept flipping out over it.

Good times.

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>>82436463
Actually I did, but I deleted it all because I thought it wasn't healthy.
I mean it isn't, but this time I don't care.

>>82436455
thanks famalam <3

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>>82436436
his hairstyle.. almost reminds me of someone

>>82436482
I thought they undid it with the cosmic cube? Or was that just to make him remember everything?

I should re-read Bru's run again, maybe make a storytime about it

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>>82436491
>healthy
>mfw my pepe and laughing Evans folders are bigger than my 2GB Lizzie one

>Tony crying like a baby that the shield was his daddy's shield and Steve doesn't deserve to carry it

sad

>>82430952
How the FUCK have so many people seen this film already???

/co/ AND /tv/ are FULL of threads of people who have seen it already, fucking HOW?

>>82436501
That was to remember stuff, but Russian mastermind guy was still able to use Sputnik on him afterwards to incapacitate him. He had Tony deprogram him before becoming Bucky Cap.

>>82436517
It came out already in Yurop and the rest of the world.
Right now USA is one of the few countries where it's not out yet.

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>>82436502
>more laughing Evans than Lizzie
That's.. that's impressive. I mean damn. I hope I can match that one day I have like, 6 and half of that came from the news stuff form Ellen.

>>82436517
>while the European premiere took place at Vue Cinemas in Westfield London on April 26

Fucking eurocucks win again

>>82436517

Disney hates you.

I live in South Korea and I've seen it twice already lol

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>>82436497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVVHYGlh5DI
you're pretty good

>>82436394
>The world is full of actual jungles and shit. No kids for him to twist the heads off in there. No parents to kill.
He didn't kill or attack anyone until he was back under "safe" custody. Like Banner was living in a town, and was doing just fine not killing anyone until SHIELD forced him back into it. If Bucky felt unsafe at any point where he was, he probably would have packed up and left again.

>You'll find that the son of a murdered mother doesn't have to come to terms with shit. Having Tony ever forgive Bucky or be willing to let bygones be bygones is less realistic than mjolnir.

Not saying that Tony needs to be Bucky's new buddy, but yes, he does need to accept that a brainwashed man isn't the one to blame instead of Hydra. Tony is clearly fucked up over his parents still and trying to develop his own therapy, but he is Never. Going. To. Be. Okay until he learns to accept this, or it will destroy him from the inside. Tony's been self destructive long enough and now most of his friends hate him. Tony's seen the path that his anger has led him down, and he's lost almost everything now.

>Sounds like he isn't trying hard enough.
He's in fucking ice now until somebody can fix him?? Other than killing himself, there's literally nothing else he can do.

>>82436533
Just go on /tv/, start a BvS thread and wait until the laughing Evans' start to flood in

>>82436459
>Just because he's born in Asgard doesn't make Asgard responsible for his actions.

They're responsible for what he did because they claimed him.

Say a man from Thailand kills twelve people in Buttfuck Idaho. Before the Buttfuck police can put him in prison some guys from the Thailand ruling family takes him away and doesn't tell any of the grieving Buttfuckers about what happened to the man responsible for killing their mother, their father, the neighbor's ten year old son.

How do the Buttfuckers from Buttfuck Idaho feel about Thailand now?

>>82436468
>Asgard doesn't.

Asgard took the perpetrator of crimes against humanity and left the victims on Earth without justice. Thanos didn't claim Loki after the fact, Odin did.

>>82436456
Steve's face when he watched Bucky freezing again was pure suffering. It reminded me of Peggy's line to him after Bucky's death in TFA "allow your friend the dignity of his choice."

>>82436542
He'd make a pretty good Snake if they ever made a Metal Gear movie desu
With Kurt Russell or Harrison Ford as Big Boss

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>>82436586
The voice is all wrong though. Also we don't get any good shots of his ass.

>>82436586
Why are the MGS stories such garbage?

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>>82436485
Yeah it was fun.
As long as you accept that she's not.

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>>82436436
>>82436497

>>82436611
Why did she scream? Was the watermelon spicy or something?

>>82436546
>he does need to accept that a brainwashed man isn't the one to blame instead of Hydra.

Says who? Tony doesn't owe Bucky a fucking thing. After this, he doesn't owe Cap anything either. The son of a murder victim does not owe the guy who did it anything. He just doesn't.

>He's in fucking ice now until somebody can fix him?

After the movie. Let's say Tony had his hands switched in that one scene and caught that bullet with his brain instead of a gauntlet how would an after the fact freezing make things better, huh?