>The Ultimates are all Adaptoid copies of the Avengers created

>>81923012
Because

>>81923012
Why even make a thread about this? Every single Marvel cartoon after Spectacular Spider-Man ended, has been tiers below the quality of the Powerpuff Girls reboot. And that says a lot.

>Baron Zemo episode
>Helmut wants to take revenge on Cap for "imprisoning" his father

This and ultimate spiderman are shows I watch when I feel like absolute shit. Getting confused and mildly annoyed at how bad they are make me feel better almost every time.

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>Songbird has a man jaw

>>81923211
EMH was great.

>The Masters of Evil are total jokes
>Beetle is a member and just as lame, despite USM saying he's a master assassin that even SHIELD was afraid of
>They need Zemo to be any good at all
>This is their first appearance and the episode immediately BEFORE they're supposed to become the Thunderbolts

>>81923443

Oh and they get whipped into shape after knowing Zemo for a few fucking hours

>>81923396
I agree, but it still went downhill at the end.

>>81923443
First appearance of the Masters of Evil was the cold open in the first episode of the season.