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Hey, remember the "renewals"? That was Cartoon Net

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Hey, remember the "renewals"? That was Cartoon Network being dicks. Uncle Grandpa is cancelled, and Steven Universe might be going down the same path:

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tv/cartoon-network-lied-us-uncle-grandpa-ending-production-138629.html
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>>81487792
Who cares? No one here cares about Uncle Grandpa.
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>>81487954
Fuck you bitch
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>>81487954
I was mainly posting it because of the Steven part at the end of the article, but whatever.
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When are the new episodes coming out?
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>>81488078
June.
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>>81487792
Yeah they aren't actually making new episodes of Uncle grandpa they're just dividing the season in half so they can say it's 2 new seasons instead of 1.
And the so called "season 4 and 5" of steven universe is actually just what was panned to be season 3. because now season 2 has been cut in half, so instead of the show having 3 52 episode seasons. it'll have 1 52 episode season, and 4 26 episode seasons.

So there's still new Steven Universe coming just not as much as we thought. either way there's 77 new episodes. so the series is 51% complete unless they announce more in the future
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>Uncle Grandpa is cancelled.

FUCK.

>Steven Universe might be going down the same path.

Let's not jump to conclusions now. On the plus side, those Dutch episode order leaks seem to be legitimate.
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>>81487792
>there is hope SU will be cancelled
fuck yes anon , we almost there
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>>81487792
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>cancelling one of there most popular shows
don't worry they wouldn't do something like that, that would be crazy
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>>81488213
>wanting more reboots
Screw you
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>>81487792
SU premiers beat out every other show on the network, its not getting cancelled. Uncle Grampa by comparison had been getting abysmal ratings.
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>>81488191

What episode order leaks?
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>>81488151

That's okay, I think having nearly 250 episodes of Steven might've been a tad much.
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>>81488317
SU has gotten abysmal ratings. UG is getting cancelled because of the SJWs.
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>Future seasons are 26 eps AND actual confirmation that the UG crew was told that they're show was cancelled
>Future season are 26 eps BUT no such cancel confirmation for SU

This makes me happy
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With the airing schedule being retarded as fuck and Cartoon Network splitting season 2 into different parts, I think it's safe to say talking about seasons with Steven Universe means absolutely nothing.
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>>81488346
There's 216 episodes of Regular Show and 227 of Adventure Time, and those don't have nearly as strong of a storyline (oftentimes none at all).
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>>81488338
talking about a post here http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/steven-universe-news-and-discussion-thread-spoilers.5284871/page-33
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>>81487954

I care. You fucking cunt.
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>>81487954
I don't really like it, but it does kind of make me sad that a semi-decent cartoon got canceled.
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>>81488367
you don't miss a single thread do you
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>>81488367
Why would SJWs be mad about Uncle Grandpa?
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>>81488213
If you're gonna be like that then you better not get upset when they reboot Courage the Cowardly Dog and do just as shit a job as they've done the last two times.
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>>81488367
wtf you talking about? SU ratings are 1.4-2.0mil. UG was getting rating around 0.88mil. Huge difference.
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What is with this meme that SU is a popular show?

There's no way it's able to maintain an audience. There are no young kids or adolescents who are following this shit regularly, it's only autists on the internet who care about retarded shit like "plot" or "lore" or the so-called "drama".
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>Give PPG reboot 40 episodes
>Decimate SU's seasons
Thanks pham
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>>81488433
>when they reboot Courage the Cowardly Dog
why i would be upset? i already watched the original.
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>>81488425
Let me rephrase that for him:
>Who cares? No one here worth a damn cares about Uncle Grandpa.
Much better
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>>81488467
>autists
No, it's teenage girls. And there's plenty of them to keep these shows afloat.
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>>81488467
>y, it's only autists on the internet who care about retarded shit like "plot" or "lore" or the so-called "drama".
An autistic audience is still an audience.
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>>81488467
Maybe kids could follow it if it had a consistent airing schedule?
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>>81488467
>A show being good makes it bad.

Have we come full circle? Is 4chan hipster now?
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stop replying you idiots
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HE DIDN'T FUCKING KNOW
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>>81488432

http://bogleech.tumblr.com/post/116853711423/an-exhaustive-analysis-of-uncle-grandpa-as

I just hope they make a new show created by an UG vet (I'm hoping Nick Edwards) and it also means that the last season will be one hell of a swan song
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>>81488531

4chan is, always has been and always will be the most hipster place on the internet. Pretty much every board revolves around "popular things are just shit memes."
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>>81488433
Anything is better than more SU m8.
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>>81488467
>There's no way it's able to maintain an audience. There are no young kids or adolescents who are following this shit regularly, it's only autists on the internet

THIS SHOW DOESN'T HAVE AN AUDIENCE EXCEPT THE ONE IT HAS!

What if we just rounded up dumb frogposters and used their lard as fuel?
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>>81488626
>not realizing Pepe has /co/ origin
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>>81488554
This is INSANE.
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>>81488667
>Not realizing Landwolf is the superior character.
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>>81488554
God I feel so sorry for the uncle grandpa crew
They were making a good cartoon and CN shit on them like that. Its just so fucked up
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>>81488703
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>>81488708
>good
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>>81488554

Yeah, it's become apparent over the last year that CN's basically stopped communicating with its content creators. Nobody seems to know why, but the whole staffs of several shows are finding out about news relating to THEIR OWN SHOWS in the same ways that we are. Shit's nuts.
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>>81488667
When did I imply otherwise? I said the poster was an idiot.
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>>81488731
Do you have a legitimate complaint about the show or can you only complain and bitch through green text?
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>>81488492
and still wrong
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>>81487792
>CN cancelling both SU and UG
how is this a bad thing again?
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>>81487954
It's not a matter of liking UG or even SU. It's the fact that the network is using underhanded tactics against viewers and even against its creators
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>>81488804
>Cancelling SU
That crew has not gotten confirmation from CN that they are closing up shop. UG's crew are the ones currently screwed.
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>>81488467
This guy gets it
Kids don't watch Cartoon Network anymore, they only give a shit about Viners and Skrillex and fucking Pewdiepie playing Cawwadooty Casual Ops 4, the entirety of the networks demographic is neckbeard and this point
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>>81488804
UG is getting cancelled, SU is not.
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>>81488729
Hey I'm just stating facts, Pepe is the blandest of the Boy's Club crew. Andy and Landwolf are the better boys.
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Do you think this has anything to do with the new president? When CN gets new management, they tend to take an axe to shows from before their reign. And also, the head bitch in another deparrment of CN back in the 90s, so that might explain the reboots.
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>>81488467
>retarded shit like "plot" or "lore"
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Pretty shitty tweet in hindsight
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>Uncle Grandpa is cancelled
Good riddance.
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Hopefully SU is next on the list.
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>>81488831
Well, neither had the UG crew, according to the creator's tweet.
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>>81488467
Loeb pls
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>>81488938
>newfag trying to fit in: the post
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>>81488567
That analysis read as anything but mad. They seemed actually somewhat fond of the show.

"I have to say I really like what Uncle Grandpa aims to be... When it’s funny, it’s really funny, but many great opportunities are missed."

Can we stop pinning everything on SJWs now?
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>>81488951
According to cartoonbrew, they were informed this month. Crewniverse has nothing told to them so far. That or they are being silent.
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>>81488567
not clicking
what the hell is it
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>>81489060
watermelon anon! Missed you mate.
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>>81489060
>watermelon anon shitposting on /co/ now

Oh, nice.
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>>81489060
I'm not even a SUfag but stop being autistic with the Mr. enter level of hate here.
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>>81489060
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>>81488708
This is why traditional networks are dying and SVOD is the future.
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>>81487792
Thank God SU should've died long ago.
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>>81488567

what the fuck are you talking about
how is some faggot's tumblr post proof that sjws made CN uncle grandpa?
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>>81489060
Oh man those watermelons are adorable.

God damn it CN give us those new episodes you whores.
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>>81489060

Stop being so sensitive, you fucking faggot.
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>>81489060
Don't like it? Well invent a fucking time machine back to the last 10,000 years of human history where being gay / female is punishable by death and oppression.

Seriously, you're whining about bullshit that does in no way effect you BUT can have a positive effect on other humans.
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That attempted suicide the SU fandom gleefully encouraged surely has to have some ramifications at some point
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>>81489060
You really need to calm down anon
Yes its a girl positive show but it also has Steven who is a boy as the main character who is basically the only function crystal gem with no issues. Not to mention that his father is the only functioning care giver Steven has.
The show really isnt as progressive as people think its supposed to be
At a con Sugar was told by a fan how Steveonnie was a true inspiration to all trans people and that it was so brave of her to put her/him on tv. Sugar's response was to awkwardly say "Uh...That's certainly one way to look at it"
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>>81487954
I care.
I care a lot.
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>>81489155
It's still going you fag.
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>>81489278

explain?
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>>81489342
fuck off
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>>81489381
No, YOU fuck off.
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>Pushed someone into suicide
>Now their show is getting cancelled.
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>>81489342
One artist drew a fat charter as skinny and the other fans harassed her so badly she attempted suicide. Turns out the girl had a bunch of medical problems too. The producers told them to knock it off on Twitter and then THEY ated like victims.
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>>81489421
>>81489381
EY

I'M WALKIN' 'ERE
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>>81488747

Between this and the constant leaks and schedule fuckery you really have to wonder what the hell is going on in the CN mothership.

Also regardless of what you think of uncle grandpa >>81488554 is a pretty shit tier way to find out you're out of a job.
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>>81489433
UG didn't push anyone into suicide anon.
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>>81489278
It's probably why UG is definitely cancelled but SU is still a maybe
If she died we would be looking forward to another half season for sure
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>>81489278
>SU fandom on 4chan is responsible for tumblr SJWs
>/co/ caring about people on Tumblr trying to kill themselves when they literally tell anyone with any progressive sentiment at all to go back to tumblr and kill them selves
You don't care about the girl you are just using her as ammunition against a show and fandom you don't like
I am not responsible for the actions of some bitches on tumblr.
And they were held responsible for their actions when the girls were arrested and charged with harassment and whatever else
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>>81489439
And the dare call us the worst part of the internet!
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>>81489476
>It's probably why UG is definitely cancelled
what
UG wasn't involved
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>>81488431
Oh, god, those were all posted in a day.
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>>81489433
zamii070tumblr.com
Go there and tell me the date of the last post.
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>>81488317
ratings dont mean shit if theyre coming from the wrong demo
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>>81489342
imgur com a USROb
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>>81489476
>>81489433
UG didn't make anyone commit suicide, jesus christ.
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>>81489448
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>>81489060
>this guy
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>>81489547
NOT YET
BUT WITH CN AT THE WHEEL, WE CAN HOLD OUT TO IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER
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>>81489524
This. SU is toast.
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>>81489517
Weren't you here when he admitted that he was autistic and that his goal was to ruin every single SU thread on 4chan? That was wild.
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>>81489381
what are you on about? what's the story?

Also stop being so fucking menstrual. I can tell these things
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>>81489524
That was back in the Young Justice days, there was different management then.

CN literally can't afford to keep running UG with the ratings it gets, there's a difference.
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>>81489498
This.
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>>81489498
>>81489506
In the end, 4chan is just as bad as tumblr.
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>>81489498
Shitposters don't care, they just literally shit their pants whenever they see someone liking something they don't like. And then fling that shit at everyone.
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>>81487954
I honestly care more about Uncle grandpa the Steven universe.
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>>81489596
I.

I was not. I honestly thought the bar for human thought on 4chan could get any lower.
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>>81489524
>>81489580

>YFW televisions can't tell what age you are when you watch a show
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>>81487792
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>>81489597
i'm just fucking tired of some petty tumblr fandom drama derailing 4chan threads.
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>>81489597
Stop samefagging to yourself whenever you want your year-old story 'explained' and get a better hobby.
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>>81489278
>>81489433

>there are people on /co/ who care more about fandoms than the cartoons themselves

Where did it all go so wrong?
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>>81489517
Bitch, you haven't seen anything.
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>>81489629
That's whats so magical about 4chan. We want to kill ourselves participating in the normal world so we come here, and it just wants to make us kill ourselves even more.
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>>81489662
Ironically, Tumblr
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>>81489662
Cartoons are just entertainment, you fag.
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>>81489498
Except it's just a fucking insult. I bet you think everyone who calls someone a faggot here is sitting in front of their computers in full KKK robes or something, when in reality it's much more likely they've got twelve tabs of trap porn and one of gay sex with hats on open.
People say one off offensive things to break insensitivity, tumblr fakes sensitivity and then tries to murder people.
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>>81489737

Fandoms are less than entertainment.
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>>81489757
I only have like 7 open right now actually
and the robe is only for special occasions
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>>81489662
>>81489668
>>81489668
Oh boy I can't wait for the new season
>>81489662
When generals were made against Moot's wishes
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>>81489060
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>>81489757
>People say one off offensive things to break insensitivity
>one off
>one
>>81489668
>>81488431
Yeah. One. No, the way I imagine these people is that they see these threads, start physically screaming like an autistic russian child and immediately start shitposting.
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>>81489853
...why is it YD saying it's Homeworld bait?

0/10, bad bait reaction pic.
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>>81488587
Cwpt for /v/ their thing is everything is shit
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>>81489498
>>81489610
>>81489613
>>81489617
>>81489662
I don't give a shit about the fandom, (although let's be fair, it is a cesspool.)

But I wouldn't be surprised if a CN executive had their eye on that whole shitstorm and looks on it as a bad reflection on the show.

Why does pointing that out make someone a shitposter?
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>>81489060
That's some advanced shitposting chief. If I wasn't so sure that was bait I might actually be upset
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>sit on new UG episodes to the point where theres multiple seasons' worth of unreleased content
>fire the team
>space out releasing new eps over 2-3 years so kids dont know

what happens if UG viewership surges and there's no more team to churn out new content? CN won't have a cow to milk, and theyll have burned too many bridges with the creative team
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>>81489642
if you dont have a nielsen box your views literally arent counted
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>>81489928
The girls didn't go through with it and the show is bringing in big numbers. Of course a big wig would overlook it.
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>>81489928
Because it gets mentioned a hundred times per thread, usually wrongly, saying the girl killed herself when she didn't. That's what makes someone a shitposter.
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>>81489928

Because you autism and assume that executives give a fuck about fucking fandom drama.
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>>81488804
Less variety on tv?
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>>81489662
maybe they don't like/enjoy SU?
>hur you can't dislike SU hurhur only the fanbase
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>>81488887
wait whos the new guy in charge of CN?
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>>81489928
It was almost a whole year ago and the situation is already resolved with the aggressors brought to the police without any media sparks. If you bring it up it's after knowing all this which means you're just shitposting.
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>>81488406
Those also both got stale after their third season, so I still think quitting SU while they're ahead is a good idea.
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This is why I don't watch American TV anymore. The only good things get shafted and the bad shit that makes millions stay on. Cable is dead, streaming is the future. Praise Netflix.
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>>81489253
Actually that shit still happens under Sharia law senpai.
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>>81489928
Because if that was the reason, an executive could also look at the GARGANTUAN amount of porn produced of the show, including pictures of steven that are borderling pedophilic
Neither of those actually reflect negatively on the show, CN executives or not.
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>>81488291
No one said TTGo was getting canceled.
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>>81487954
You know what I always say:

Fuck Uncle Fagpa
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>>81490007
They mention only the fandom, I doubt they care at all about the show.

>>81490053
Fuck off, Gil, the only good joke you ever had was The Aristocrats.
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>>81490014
>>81488887
>new president
Christina Miller has been there for two years now
CN's decline started long before she came in
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>>81490007

what does that have to do with my post?
mentioning the fandom and nothing about the show itself means that yes, you care more about fandom than cartoons.
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>>81488314
I hope when it's cancelled, the cancerous fanbase re-enacts Jonestown.
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>>81489937
Then they bring some other team to finish it or reboot Gravity Falls with a new team
It feels like you still think they give a fuck
I can assure you there's not one person that has decisional power in the entire hierarchy and gives a fuck about any of the show they produced, are producing or will produce in the near and far future.
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>>81490116
HERE'S ANOTHER JOKE

AMERICAN TV
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>>81490007
Then why talk about their fanbase?
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>>81490200
We need to get these Britbongs outta /co/
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>>81489286
Well. There is a difference between social liberalism and progressivism.
SU is generally liberal as fuck, but not really progressivist. Which is different from progressive in the sense that it is not reactionary but tries to keep up with the times. Anyway, you will note that it has little to nothing actually in the way of progressivist ("SJW") agenda in it, because progressivism is normative and authoritarian. It means to push for "wronged" groups on the basis of purported collective traits, not individual merit.
SU, on the other hand, preaches the opposite. Nobody is inherently good or evil, but defined by individual acts of good or bad effect and intent.
Nobody is shown to be in any way morally obligated to do something by anything but the individual situation demanding it.
Steven does not like Connie because she is a racial minority, but because they are a terrific fit for each other.
He doesn't give Lars a piece of mind because he's a guy, but because he is an asshole.
SU really lacks the ideology of SJWs. It is rather the opposite. A radically liberal, anti-authoritarian approach based on empathy and individualism, not collectivist moralism.
Which makes Steven closer to Jesus than to a radfem mouthpiece.
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>>81490255
Rebecca Sugar, please leave. No one likes your mouthpiece protagonist.
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>>81490255
thank you, well said.
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Would it be possible to have Fat Pearl?
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>>81489060
This is how I imagine my female sworddwarfs charging into battle. Just as long as they don't have a kid with them, hopefully.
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>>81490255
Agreed.

>>81490283
Really, anon?
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>>81490335
No
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>>81490335
oh no shes hot
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>>81488567
>bogleech
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>>81489286
>The show really isnt as progressive as people think its supposed to be
good joke anon
>>81490255
>they are not lesbians.. they are rocks !!
nice try jewbeca
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>>81490335
that would take away from the variety we get in the main 3 gems. that's Amethysts body type.
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>>81490365
Really anon.
>>81490383
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>>81488567
>bogleech

Literally a psycho SJW
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>>81490320
No it wasn't.
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>>81490408
But fat AND tall, anon!
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>>81490335
>Fat Pearl
WHY ISN'T THERE MORE
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>>81490335
>Making Pearl Fat
I don't like it but maybe. If she was a self centered bitch
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>>>/trash/2199609
I'll still take these people over the shitposters of /co/ any day of the week
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>>81490116
>The aristocrats
>His joke
I hope you're kidding
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Greetings from /trash/. I can't wait to start posting here again when the show starts airing weekly again.
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>>81490320
>>81490365
Heh, you make my day. I registered my bachelor paper, met with old friends and stuffed my face with Japanese delicacies till I could fit no more, but you just made my day.
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>>81490454
Garnet is already tll and rather thick.
Can't just have 3 thick chicks, or else you'd attract too many fat activists.
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>>81490447
R.I.P in pepperonis Pizza Steve
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>>81489060
You forgot:
>BEING FAT IS OKAY
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>>81490335
Maybe just for one episode.
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>>81490255
Screen capping this for future use
Very well said my man
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>>81490335
>Fat Pearl
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>>81490495
hey, with all the SJW and Anti-SJW shitposting, it's nice to have someone just point it out, and be reasonable.
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>>81490501
>you mean fetishists
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>fanbase is so cancerous that they will post on trash with ponies and furries
you can't make this shit up lads
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>>81490380
>>81490430
I just read like eight pages of their blog and they seem pretty calm and alright to me. If that's what passes for a "psycho SJW", I guess I'm looking forward to the SJW age.
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>>81490612
there is enough fuel here already.
And think about it that way, if Pearl was fat from the beginning, you wouldn't be able to appreciate it.
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>>81490592
> reasonable.
>Saddie song exist
>Buh there's no SJW HERE!!
is just another blind fanboy anon , nothing to see there.
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>>81490664
I didn't understand a word of this post.
Did you quote the wrong post number?
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>>81490664
I honestly thought people say it's Sjw because of Steven Cross dressing.
Also corrupted gems Remember them? I don't
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>>81488467
Can't find the original article, but there was one a long time ago that actually looked at the individual show ratings on CN.
TTGo was the highest by a landslide, with everything else pulling in half the ratings it was, but aside from Go SU was the highest at that point, with a clear path of growth over time with it.

Not sure what it'd be now, but CN is still pulling in the best ratings among children networks.
http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/2015-cable-ratings-amc-discovery-cartoon-network-1201666316/
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>>81490664
Remember when cross dressing was funny?
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>>81490383
>they are not lesbians.. they are rocks !!
Absolutely not what I said.
Of course they are flaming gay for each other. But the show doesn't bother much with labels and putting people into boxes.
Sure, you can argue back and forth whether Ruby and Sapphy are technically lesbians, but that is really besides the point. And the point of the show is love, simple as that.
That's what it boils down to.
So the gay space rocks have the hots for each other.
Is that a problem for you?
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>>81489302
It shouldn't be. It's literally the most cancerous show on television.
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>>81490664
>>81490729
>>81490757
Nope. Crossdressing is tumblr; even though /co/ has trap threads it's still tumblr.
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>>81490757
>>81490664
>women keep harping on about how they're oppressed and have no freedom
>literally free to wear whatever they want, while men get the choice between jeans, shirt and suit.
anyone else feel patriarchial yet?
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>>81490757
What is this sjw bullshit fucking tumblr forcing THEIR IDEALS on us
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>>81490804
>My opinion is fact!
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>>81488554
I don't even watch ug but that's pretty fucked up
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>>81490757
>he think i'm talking about crossdressing
is aa trans metaphor anon
They applaud him in the end
The tone is not for comedy but a serious one.
>>81490777
>And the point of the show is love
How did Garnet was born again?
That's wasn't love anon.
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>>81490846
See. It's cool when utility makes anon hard and it's SJW when it doesn't.
And Steven in a Prince costume isn't hot.
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>>81490757
Yeah, back in the good old days of 17 September 2015, when Steven Universe used it as a joke in the episode "Sadie's Song".
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>>81490846
>Traps threads are tumblr
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>>81490927
It's true.
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>>81490962
Nah, that's homegrown faggotry.
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>>81490846
>traps are good meme
>traps are not tumblr
>fucking implying
Faping to traps means you are fucking gay anon.
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>>81490857
Sounds like it's time for you to join the SJWs, anon. They're the strongest advocates for the idea that men shouldn't be judged for wearing traditionally feminine clothing.
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>>81490335
I have learned in my travels that the only way to deal with things such as this is to...
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>>81490908
nooo~ don't you get it?
It symbolizes how Steven is becoming genderfluid, transracial, trans-physical, crossdressing, self-fullfillment, poligynous hardlight-construct family with mass, flux-capacitor, continuum polarity reversal, warp-pad fetishism is taking over the show.
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>>81490729
>Also corrupted gems Remember them? I don't
Gotta have your priorities straight anon.

The corrupted gems have been on Earth for thousands of years and aren't going anywhere.
The Cluster shit is a LOT more immediate.
They'll probably show more corrupted Gem adventures once we get past the Cluster, making a more calm period of normalcy between the Cluster and YD finding out something happened to it and taking action
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>>81487792
>Uncle Grandpa cancelled
>Gumball is probably next

That's sad.
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>>81490615
When every other general has been allowed even when their show has been cancelled? Of course they'd take it somewhere else.
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>>81490901
Garnet happened when Ruby jumped to save Sapphire from Pearl's attack and they fused by accident. Then Sapphire reciprocated the save by making the jump with Ruby to escape Blue Diamond's wrath at their heresy.
That's a whole lotta love right there.
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>>81490901
>is aa trans metaphor anon
>They applaud him in the end
>The tone is not for comedy but a serious one.
Holy fuck are you autistic?
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>>81490908
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>>81491028
>AN ANALASYS
Peridot is adorable!
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>>81491042
He's already proven himself to be.
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>>81488151
the kicker is that the season 1's of UG, SU, and Clarence were all originally 26 episodes before getting extended (instead of having a 2nd season ordered)
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>>81491157
Jesus what the fuck is going at CN?
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>>81491029

Don't even joke about that anon.
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They made the change to that season format in Adventure Time Season 5. Nothing wrong with them going back, and if SU was going to be laid off, they would of been hit as the same time as uncle grandpa.
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>Hey, the eps of a show's seasons that get the most ratings are the premiers and the finales to seasons.
>Other shows sometimes go on hiatus halfway through their seasons so they can call the episodes in the middle "Mid Season Finale" and "Mid Season Premier" and get more ratings.
>If we do that for every episode, then the whole season will get premier/finale numbers!

>Interest in show drops because there are no episodes coming out

>Why aren't people still clamoring like madmen for our artificial scarcity in television form???
>FUCK YOU WE'RE CUTTING A SEASON

When will Hiatus Culture end?
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>>81491206
S5 is confirmed, but it will be the last one.
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>>81491246
Which may or may not be a good thing.
I don't want to watch SU till it turns to shit.
They can always do spin-offs later.
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>>81491182
Corporate shenanigans?

Cartoon Network is kinda hell to run when you think about it. They have tons of original properties they need to balance and shift around based on ratings. it's like that with all the kid-centered networks really. They use their own shit mostly and don't just get stuff from fox or whatever like Comedy Central does.

Then you have the fact that cartoons require completely different planning limitations. You can expand or chop up a cartoon much easier than you could Game of Thrones. Even sitcoms have to worry about live production while cartoons really just need time to make (outside of South Park).
CN can do this wishy-washy shit cause of the nature of their programs, but they're failing hard with things now that they're getting back their popularity and dealing with some more story driven cartoons.
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>>81491000

No, they're the strongest advocates for the idea of demonizing men for being born male because according to SJW ideology, all men are genetically predispositioned to be evil scum and rapists from birth. Especially white men.
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>>81491325
I agree.
I'd rather have 5 seasons with an arc that comes to a satisfying conclusion, than years of mediocre episodes with fillers and pointless plotlines.
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>>81489091
some artist who's pretty liberally opinionated combed through UG to analyse anything "problematic" during the SU/UG controversy a year ago (in an attempt to defend it) and found that "problematic" stuff wasn't very common in the show (and some of the examples he did find were stuff he wouldn't have noticed if he wasn't specifically nitpicking AND were likely unintentional). He also points out that people who hate on UG's fans should realize that a lot of UG's fans are autistic.
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>>81491325
Well one of the crew did mention how they thought the show sometimes feels like it is a sequel to a romantic comedy series about Greg.
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>>81491451
What would constitute as filler in an American cartoon?
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Off-topic, sort of, but has anyone noticed SU doesn't do too many of the typical western cartoon show episodes?

>no school related ones since steven's homeschooled
>no 'wants/creates a younger sibling' episode
>pretty much no weird fetish-shit episode

The only one I can think of is Steven and the Stevens being that one episode where the MC clones themselves to do a lot of shit.
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why don't the crystal gems ever destroy the gems of gem monsters they come across? they always bubble them for some reason
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>>81491623
SU would be much better if Steven was in school. It'd be interesting to see how he'd deal with cliques, peer pressure and bullies.
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>>81491623
>no school related ones since steven's homeschooled
There's going to be a comic covering that soon.
>no 'wants/creates a younger sibling' episode
Bismuth maybe
>pretty much no weird fetish-shit episode
Anon, please.
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>>81491679
Something to do with "harvesting".
I don't know, hopefully we'll find out someday.
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>>81487792
Large Connie (Connie gets implants) when?
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>>81491679
because they're trying to find ways to restore them to their original form
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>>81491719
>Penis Connie (Connie gets a penis) when?
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>>81490521
He will live on in our hearts, and as a pair of sunglasses in Amethyst's room.
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>>81491744
but what if her penis gets in the way
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>>81491764
It won't.
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>>81491764
Suck it.
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>>81491764
IT WON'T
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>>81488840
You've rendered your statement invalid by thinking that Skrillex is still popular
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>>81491704
But everyone hated that episode because of the weird fetish shit.
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>>81491713
Harvesting seems to be what Peridot was afraid the Gems were doing with the corrupted gems.

But really they just want to be able to cure/help them rather than kill them.

Though, since there's a future episode called Gem Harvest, I imagine we're going to find out what Peridot was so afraid of at some point.
My bet is that "harvesting" involves taking the life energy directly out of a gem to put into another gem/machine. Like Lapis' prison, but with death.
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>>81491704
Eh, call me scum but that honestly felt like the natural conclusion of the episode. Steven realized he wanted to be the star and Sadie didn't--the costume was just a detail.

There's nothing Totally Spies-tier that's happened, at least. You have to admit that much. The whole show was full of fetish-pandering.
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>>81489617
>implying they have any actual opinions about cartoons and aren't just fishing for (you)s out of boredom
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>>81491744
Not on this network, girls expect breasts at her age.

>AHHHHH! My particle boards have become watermelons!
>Great Yokoi's ghost are those real?!?

And in the end The doctor never put in the implants, the breasts are real.
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>>81487954
I hate Uncle Grandpa, and even I think their methods are extremely underhanded. A show deserves to be cancelled right in the face, not basically lied to about seasons to come.

>>81488467
Autistic fanbases are the best ones- they purchase merchandise, religiously follow the show, and create buzz and hype for episodes.

>>81488804
CN barely has anything besides TTGo, RS, and AT. The first is pulling in a useless if large crowd and the other two are near the end of their life cycles.
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>>81489524
Don't forgot about merch sales. Only SU merch I've seen has been fanmade and not a factor.
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>>81492147
Would Connie inherit Prinyaka's bountiful breasts?
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>>81491623
>no you saved my life now I'll be your slave episode
>no we have to shrink down and go into a character's body episode
>no christmas or halloween episodes because they don't exist in the this universe
>no body switch/life switch episode
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>>81492285
i dont think this is as big a factor for CN. i never saw dexters lab, johnny bravo, knd, or fosters merch back in the day

its WB/DC that cares about merch
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>>81492285
There's a shit ton of official SU merch out right now.
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>>81492285
SU merch is criminally easy to make and it's autistic fanbase would lap it up.
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>>81492324
>no fatty wank episode where one of the gems--
>okay nevermind inb4 'amethyst'
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>>81487954
Uncle Grandpa is great, faggot.
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There's no way they'd cancel SU, right? Every show is hiatus city except long-runners and TTG
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>>81492285
Do you not see all this shit that just came out?
cartoonnetworkshop . com/category/cnshop_brands/steven+universe+st_cnshop.do?pgc=141755.147330&pp=96&sortby=dateCreatedDescend&sortType=1
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>>81492553
Why Funko, I want my Figma Pearl.
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>>81492285
They've got an actual official Cheeseburger Backpack that you could buy, anon.

It costs about $55 and ships to US only.
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>>81489662
>people care about the more entertaining thing than the less entertaining thing

Gee, ya think?
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>>81492301
That and Steven's magic spit.
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>>81492553
Allz I want iz a Peridot Pluzh. Iz that too much to azk?
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>>81492680
>fandom wars
>entertaining
How bored are you?
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>>81487792
Nice.
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>>81492585

Well there are several other toy lines coming out, supposedly with some launching this summer, probably to match the show's return.

>Pearl Figma.

I mean I guess it's possible, but I'd both doubt it and only expect it after the show aired if ever.

You can always have this TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY PLUS DOLLARS Pearl plush.
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>>81490086
It probably is though. While it's cheap as shit to make, they have to split profits with dc. PPG doesn't have they split, and it's also cheap, so it will be the new TTGO
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>>81491623
>pretty much no weird fetish-shit episode
Shirley you can't be serious?
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>>81492553
>no gem nendoroids
>no steven nendoroid with cookie cat accessories and cheesebuger backpack
I really wish good smile would take some interest in western properties.
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>>81488151
>52 episodes
>10 minutes each

Since when that became a thing on CN?
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>>81487792
>>81487954

They should cancel PPG. It was rather shit.
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>>81492825
explan
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>>81492814
>TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY PLUS DOLLARS Pearl plush
it's not even quality plush
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You know how the five points of the star are supposed to refer to the five singular crystal gems?

What if the other stars for the other diamonds are supposed to represent the same things, so we'll see 6 more servants of BD and 1 more servant of yellow?
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Unless the SU crew have something else planned, I can only see Steven Universe going another thirty episodes. I mean they have the drill, they know the cluster's there, the actual conflict with the cluster itself will be a two-parter, and then what? The only remaining question is what the hell Steven and the Gems will do after the cluster is taken out. They seem vastly outmatched by these space gem things which have been militarizing for five millennia. Seriously, what are they gonna do?

I mean, even IF they put back all those gems they've been bubbling, and somehow re-arranged most of the gems from the cluster back to their normal selves, I still don't know how that would make their forces large enough to take on homeworld forces, let alone the diamonds themselves.
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>>81492919

It's better than all of the proposed merch that we've seen, which is in and of itself a testament to how fucked up CN's marketing department has been acting lately. A few figures and plushes here and there would sell like hotcakes, but here it's taken almost 3 years to get a cheeseburger backpack.
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>>81491028
Honestly I would not be surprised if the series ends with the Cluster issue being taken care of and the issues of Homeworld and Yellow Diamond being left unresolved assuming they don't hamfistedly shove them into the end of the Cluster arc.
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>>81493026
steven's (and rose's) most powerful weapon has always been his ability to incite rebellion.

expect the lower class gems to revolt against their overlords.
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>>81492915
not him but if you have a giantess fetish there are plenty of episodes that are right up your ally. also if you're into body horror there's catfingers and if you're a pedophile there's frybo
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>>81492814

You're fucking crazy if you want me to spend that much money on a pearl plush! I mean, not even the horse fuckers plush aren't that expensive.
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>>81491764
Thank god for Connie's penis!
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>>81491546
Episodes you don't like.
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>>81493017

PD: five pointed star
>Rose
>Pearl
>Amethyst
>Ruby
>Sapphire

YD: four pointed star
>Peri
>Jasper
>Yellow Pearl
>???

BD: eight pointed star
>Lapis
>Blue pearl
>???
>???
>???
>???
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>>81487954
Suck a motherrfucking dick fagboy
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>>81491728
>Crystal Gems find a way to restore corrupted gems to their original forms
>all the restored gems are loyal to homeworld and want to get the colonization back underway
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>>81488036
>>81488425
>>81489290
>>81489625
>>81492398
I dont see any of you people in the talk back threads. Its a fucking ghost town.
>UG gets canceled
oh wut ;_; i loved it so much

Really?
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>>81492553
Call me when I can find it in walmart or any other big store anon.
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>>81493071
What?

Nigga, do you think the Cluster is endgame?
That shit is just a remnant of the old war. We're so far from endgame that all we know is that it'll involve some diamond somehow.

Hell, Yellow Diamond doesn't even really seem endgame at this point considering we still know little about Blue and shit about White and Pink.

Cluster's going to be dealt with either mid Season 3 or in the Season 3 finale, leaving 2 more seasons (currently) for whatever comes next.
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>>81492745
The SU fandom throwing shitfits is more entertaining than SU could ever hope to be.
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>>81493196

Yeah, I was pretty upset at the price too. Hopefully some of the upcoming toys will be high-end plushes, Centipeetle please but we'll have to wait and see.
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>>81493375
I never implied Cluster was the planned endgame. But I wouldn't be surprised if CN canceled SU early and the SU crew suddenly have to cram a hamfisted ending together with what they got so far.
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>>81493384
>I have no life so I go on the internet to laugh at people, so I don't realized how horrible my life is
K.
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>>81493359
I've seen a lot of this shit at hot topic
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>>81493631
The fuck is hot topic?
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>>81493648
Go to a mall and you'll find one.
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>>81493685
You mean that big building that's been closed since 2004?
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>>81493017
>the other stars for the other diamonds
What stars?
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I don't see Steven Universe getting CANCELLED, but I do think it's going to end in the next couple of years. I'm sure Rebecca Sugar has an ending in mind and they're slowly working toward it.
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I can't imagine them treating UG and SU the same in terms of cancellation.

As good as UG was, it doesn't have the fanbase SU has got. There's not going to be any sort of outrage from its cancellation. If CN cancels SU they're not only going to get a ton of shit from the fans but from the people who don't even watch the show but go "Hey it's that gay show with the lesbians! HOMOPHOBES"
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>All shows besides TTG and PPG get cancelled
>Cartoon Network rebrands itself into TTG Network
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>>81493932
Blue diamond's 8-pointed star is seen on lapis's mirror, the symbol she draws when steven frees her, the bases of the statues in the Lunar Sea spire, and the heart of the pyramid temple

Yellow diamond has a 4-pointed star that you also see in the core of the pyramid temple overlayed on top of BD star. You can also see the 4-pointed star on periodt's crop circle and her flare
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>yfw SU is becoming the new GF
>yfw soon not even fans will like it
>yfw they'll call Sugar a hack bc they have no way to direct anger anywhere else
>yfw SU will die with a terrible rushed ending due to constant scheduling conflicts
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>>81489278
I think you're retarded to think anyone even cares about that anymore.
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Question: We know that one of these statues ended up being Yellow Diamond, but who are the others? Blue Diamond's gem placement doesn't match either of these...
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>>81490750
>CN pulling best children network ratings

Fucking how?
Are there less parents using the electric jew to babysit their children, or are more of them just using CN to do it?
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>>81494588
We haven't seen Blue without the veil.
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>>81488467
kill yourself retarded frogposter
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>>81494669
We've seen her mural though, and it looks a lot different from that. And we know her gem placement based on that.
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>>81494658
Parents use tablets and phones now, anon.
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>>81494588
I'm pretty sure those are just various Quartzes and lackies, and some of them just so happen to be fashioned similarly to Yellow Diamond. The clothes match what Gems like Jasper and Peridot wear.
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>>81490335
I do not watch this show.
I saw the pilot, and the art shift in the first episode turned me off of it.
I don't hate it or SU posters, I just don't really care about it.

Taking that into context, this picture fucking disgusts me.
Like really fucking disgusts me.
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>Leave Cartoon Network on and only watch it whenever Adult Swim, Gumball and UG are on
>This shit happens
The final episodes have to be really good and weird. There's something wrong when your entire night block is better than your main channel outside two shows.
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>>81494406
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I hate SU so fucking much. SJWs are literally the Bane of my existence. Why can't we have good, conservative cartoons like in the 90's? CalArts and CN studios should be bombeb. Fuck those cancerous Jews and liberal nigger cuck degenerates. Tumblr will pay for what they did to the quality of Cartoon Network. The era of red-pilled quality cartoons shall rise again. I hope SU gets cancelled.

Oh, and SU is trash. Nothing personal.

*teleports*
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>>81490335
>Pearls are custom made to master's specification
>potential pulchritudinous plump Pearls possible
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>>81493648

On /co/ Steven Universe is one.
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>>81495212
That's not even a proper joke and somehow it works.
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>>81494588
That is not yellow diamond, it looks nothing like yellow diamond, there's no reason to think it's her...

huh, I wonder if those symbols are actually a cryptogram
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>>81495252
>That's not even a proper joke

Just like everything in SU and SU itself.

>and somehow it works.

This however is not.
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>>81495187
Ok, edgelord.
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>>81495187
This is a copypasta, right?
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>Steven Universe and Uncle Grandpa cancelled

God, I can only hope.

Those character designs were the most punchable things ever created.
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>>81495329
Careful with those words you use at me, millennial.
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>>81492553
didn't the creator ban that shit?
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>>81494658
No, that's how.
>Parents give their kids smartphone shit to keep them entertained
>CN App is a fairly popular one that basically is one giant add for CN
>Kids end up watching CN

>>81494138
Huh. I never noticed they were so specifically different.
But they're likely not stars actually. They're cuts. The Peridot one specifically is Princess cut. The lapis one looked like it may have been round or something else.

>>81494588
None of those are the diamonds. Even that one that has some traits like YD is far from looking like her (no giraffe neck, single pomp, rounded shoulders, no coat).
We know she looked just like she does now back then because her giant mural on the moon base is the same then as she is now.
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>>81495464
>Those character designs were the most punchable things ever created.

But they're not My Life as a Teenaged Robot, anon.
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>>81495464
Jenny the most punchable thing I ever seen, too.
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>>81495464
retarded waifufaggot
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>>81495466
Ok, senpai.
>>
So, does CN just not talk to its employee's?
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>>81495588

All signs point to yes. Nobody knows why, and the issue seems to be rather recent.

It'll be interesting to here about what's going on right now whenever we find out. Between their scheduling, marketing, and lack of contact with content creators, it seems like CN's in total disarray for some reason. It's also just CN, Adult Swim's been making some of its most cohesive and intelligent business decisions in a long time recently.
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>>81490131
CN was on the upswing during the last years of Snyder. Ratings have been cratering under Miller
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>>81495711
I blame the new bomb format and the constant marathoning of TTG.
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>>81494406
hopefully.
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>>81495689
Well, Matt keeps claiming that CN treats their shows well, there has to be some communication between the crews and the other departments.
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>>81495527
>being this mad
Kek
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>>81495689
CN is mostly based out of Burbank, CA while [as] is based around Atlanta, GA

They're far enough away to not fuck each others shit
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>>81495464
That last MLAATR thread was really nice, it reminded me that not everyone that likes the show is a retarded avatarfagging cunt.
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>>81495775
I still do not understand the reasoning behind the bomb format. Having five episodes in a week and then nothing new for months does not keep interest in any tv show.
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>>81495902
Its because they assume that the hiatus' build up hype.
That's worked all of once (after the second Steven Bomb).
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>>81487954
kids like it
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>>81495833

Matt's gone on record as saying that he hates CN's handling of its IPs, then that he loves them, then deletes his tweets like it's going out of style. He's not the most reliable source in that regard.

>>81495865

It really shows, the way they're operating at the moment is like two different universes. I don't now if it's the new president or what, but something wonky's definitely going on at CN.
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>>81490472
...I really want to touch that dog now.
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>>81495805
Why do you dislike SU
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>>81488419
>Super Watermelon Island is the first episode coming back

damn the plots moving fast now
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>>81496017
>talking to a tripfag
>talking to a baiting tripfag

You dense motherfucker.
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>>81495279
>cryptogram
Several people have tried to figure it out and last I checked there wasn't any solid evidence to say if it is.
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>>81495941
I remember that first hiatus. Made me forget the show existed.
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>>81495954
I like how Matt tries to help out, when the best situation is to ignore the questions on twitter,
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>>81487792

I swear to this fucking message board. If Steven Universe gets canceled. I'll pull the plug out of my shotgun, drive down to CN studios, and start with the first sorry ass motherfucker that asks me to leave.
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>>81496097

Sorry, pulling out the plug was unrelated. I meant start crying.
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>>81494406
there are 77 episodes left. if it really is ending they have plenty of time to give it a real ending
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>>81495279
>>81496060

A bunch of people worked on it last summer, we found one long word that matched a long English word (I think it was "forgotten", "forbidden", or something to that effect), but using that as a key yielded zero results.

Current ideas are that it's;

A. Nothing.
B. Not in English.
C. Not an alphabet.
D. B and C.
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>>81496097
I highly doubt someone will ask a guy with a shotgun in hand to leave
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>>81490901
>is aa trans metaphor anon
They applaud him in the end
The tone is not for comedy but a serious one.

Fuck no, its a fat kid trapping, its hilariously sad.
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>>81496177
>>81496060
This reminds me, I have a /tg/ cryptogram I need to get back to finishing.
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>>81496097
>Sir there's a redneck down here angrily waving a shotgun at employees and crying
>he says you cancelled his space lesbians
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>SUfags may be getting the biggest BTFOing of all time
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>>81495286
Are you stupid?
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>>81496290
>only getting 80 more episodes

...oh no?
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>>81496290
Nah, nothing will top the symbonic titan cancellation.
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>>81494823
The show is much better for the art shift.
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>>81493384
Nice edge.
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>>81496292
SU is a joke but it's so sad it's not even a proper one.
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>>81496325
CN once aired like 2 episodes of a show called wulin warriors before cancelling it and never airing it again
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>>81496290
Don't you dare use Dwayne ever again.
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There still isn't any good r34 of Aunt Grandma
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>>81496365
You're the only joke here anon.
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>>81495464
Roughly zero people who have ever claimed SU's art is bad have explained why, and the problem is because you fucking can't.
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>>81496559
It must be hard for you, anon, at least people like jokes.
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>>81496591
OH SNAP!
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Say why you don't like SU and explain why you don't
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>>81496396
You can't catch me, copper.
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>>81496575

You can argue that the character designs are too simplistic, but their use of color and shading is incredible.
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>>81496177
>>81496060
damn.

The text looks like cyrillic. Does anyone speak russian or some other language like that?
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>>81496655
It isn't Cyrillic.
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>>81496641
>simplistic
You mean like most cartoons
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>>81496618
>inb4 tumblr, SJW, feminist
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>>81496618
Anon I like SU but not everyone has to have an in-depth reasoning for not liking a show.

No, you don't need to watch 12 episodes of something to determine you don't like it.
You don't have to watch everyone's recommended list of episodes, you don't even have to watch past the first episode. If you get drawn back into doing just that, it's because you wanted to like it or felt you were missing out, but don't let anyone tell you that not liking something at first glance is unnatural.

The people shitting on it for issues that don't actually exists are a problem you can't solve with any amount of reasoning, because how do you argue against someone who says water sucks because it's plastic?
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>>81495497
better to assume they're stars. I've made the same mistake as you before and thought rose's rose symbol was a gem cut. 2000 notes later and it's my first and most popular theory ever, and also it's wrong as balls
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>>81496618
>Bad pacing.
>Went from monster of the week Saturday cartoon to literally crying breakfest friends in order for designer to push her "agenda".
>Main character pushed aside for side characters.
>Bad pacing, 11 mins is not enough time to get point across for these "hard hitting topics".
>Characters are fugly, you can get over this.
>Background art is inconsistently hit or miss.
>"Strong females" turned into waifu bait anyway.
>Bad community.
>And many many more I can't think of on the spot.

Still gonna watch this train crash of a show though.
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>>81487792
>kill this faggy ass show
>being dicks for doing so
that doesn't add up, OP
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>>81496843
Sugar doesn't have an agenda though. She really isn't a SJW.
She always gives a quick vague answer whenever she's asked a social justice question at a con.
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>>81496750
So SU hate is just bandwagon neo-/v/ and /pol/blr dick-sucking le post-contrarian red-pilled anti-SJW nigger cuck jew millenial mudslim BLACKED nu-male spics BUILD WALL chad women normie degenerate reddit tumblr meme culture memehate.

Got it.
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How did RQ know that fuggin Greg would kill her unless Steven weren't the first half gem?
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>>81496843
You sound like you browse /v/ and don't actually watch SU.
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>>81496973
Anon I just explained to you that people don't have to have an explicit reason not to like something.

What the fuck?
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>>81496984
I don't think Rose HAD to die, she chose to. The video in Lion 3 is all about why she had Steven.
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>>81494823
That's because a lot of fanart is fucking disgusting and terrible
Personally besides a few character designs I really didn't like the pilots art style and much preferred the art shift that started around season 2
>>81496323
Honestly we are getting 40 episodes of a normal show broken in half
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>>81496655

I can read Cyrillic, it's not. They made a point of keeping the writing the same across shots, so it is possible that it is something, but there's honestly no telling what. We'll have to wait for some basic key to show up, or for someone to read what it says aloud, before we can find out.

My bet's on it being English, but written in either an abjad or syllabary, due largely to Sugar's background.
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>>81496682

Yes, but they're particularly simple compared to other shows or even the pilot.

>>81496843
>bad pacing
>bad pacing

literally not Sucrose's fault.

>Motw to crying breakfast friends
>strong females into waifu bait
Sucrose's intention.She's a autistic shipper. She's one of us.

>Main character pushed aside
Not really, he's been the viewpoint of every single episode.

>Characters fugly
>background hit or miss
Opinion, but also incorrect

>Bad community
Arguably only on Tumblr, and that comes with the territory.
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>>81496984
I remember reading somewhere that RQ could've just had a regular human kid (that I guess would've just been a Greg clone), but because she wanted a half-gem kid, she had to give up her gem.
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>>81497022
>I don't think Rose HAD to die, she chose to
Tell me how this distinction answers my question, numbnuts.
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>>81488406
Dipshit, it's not about whether autists like you and the rest of the adult 'fandom' are appeased with muh deep lorez, it's about the ratings. That and the amount of money made is literally all CN cares about, not the storyline or whatever.
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>>81496923
Look, we all know Sugar has CN by the balls by Steven Universe being one of their highest grossing shows. The only way SU got away with midget lesbians past the executives is by being subtle about it.

She is pushing her shipping fantasies on her characters just like she was pushing it when she worked on Adventure Time. As long as she can say "They're asexual rock aliens!" she can let this slide past the higher ups. It's not really an "agenda" though, I think it's just her sick twisted fantasies.
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>>81496984
unless lion is the love child of of pink diamond and greg's cat, I don't think we'll find out.
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>>81497074
The woman finds crying entertaining. Is it really shocking that she's into weird stuff?
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>>81497038
>She's one of us.

>This is a good thing.
>Costanza
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>>81487792
I was in GameStop today and I saw a Steven plush. The show is clearly valuable to the network. If it's ending, then it can only be ending on Sugar's wishes, ala Gravity Falls.
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>>81496843
Literally what agenda
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>>81488467
Also this
>>81497045
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>>81488467
>retarded shit like "plot" or "lore"
Not comfy enough for you?
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>>81497045
Shit, links are in the wrong order
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>>81497109
It's shocking it's on a childrens television show is what I'm getting at. Also, it's just plain terrible.

>>81497165
See>>81497074
Sugar's just a modern day yaoi paddle girl shipping her OC-steal-Donuts together.
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>>81494683
Nice argument.
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>>81489547
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>>81497268
>OC-steal-Donuts
So who exactly are these characters ripping off? Besides Steven and Connie being based on her brother and his fiancee/
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>>81497268
Honestly, kids don't give a shit about seeing characters kissing, much less characters of the same gender.
Its soccer moms and dads that freakout.
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>>81496880
But that's SU, not UG.
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>>81497284
Did he just draw this? Poor guy.
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>>81497014
Basically most of the SU hate stems from either wanting to fit in or just a "feel" the show gives that makes people (4chan) hate it.
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>>81497284
Damn, dude...
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>>81496843
>Went from monster of the week Saturday cartoon
You act like this was a good thing.
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>>81497269
Thanks pham, always appreciate it
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I thought /co/ hated Uncle Grandpa
When did this change?
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>>81497356
Yes, and? It doesn't matter. Pay those people no mind because it's not a problem you can solve.
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>>81497396
No one really hated UG. It's just that no one really cared about it.
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>>81497396
/co/ is full of contrarians.
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>>81497284
>inb4 his last words before pulling the trigger are "Good night..."
>*BLAM*
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>>81497284
Must feel shitty when people hate your show because NO MUH LORE!!!!!!
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>>81497398
I'm not trying to solve it, just saying it how it is.
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>>81497452
>/co/
>people

Anon, no, that's not how it works in the real world.
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>>81497452
Did anyone really hate UG though? It was way better than his previous show.
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>>81497305
The gems are just an amalgamation of different strong woman tropes we've seen before. They're design is right out of a early deviant art page gallery.

>>81497311
It's just surprising how the execs let it slip past since they usually pander to the soccer parents. And the show has suffered in quality for them letting Sugar do as she pleases. But it hasn't suffered in sales which is the only thing that matters now.
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>>81497284
This is really depressing to look at, like that photo greg took in front of rose's painting

Some things go too far and come back around the other side, but this is sitting right on the border between "fucked up" and "funny again"
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>>81497452
I just don't like it because I don't think it's funny. Now, mind you, I made this decision based off a handful of probably the first 20 episodes, but now I just don't watch TV anymore, and I don't care enough to DL some episodes of UG to see if I like the rest of it.
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>>81497396
When /co/ stopped loving GF.
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>>81497574
I'll agree, it's terribly unfunny, but it handles plot and emotion pretty damn well and that's why I watch it
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>>81497550
The Gems are based off of different aspects of Sugar herself, Chicken McFucknugget.
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>>81497550
>And the show has suffered in quality for them letting Sugar do as she pleases.
No it hasn't.
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>UG gets cancelled
>other shows like Gumball and Clarence suffering the same fate might also be around the corner
>but meme shittans go will become CN's Spongebob
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>>81497396
>>81497428
>>81497547

I, and hopefully other anons here, are moreso upset at the method rather than that it's cancelled.

>>81497550
>amalgamation of tropes

Oh shit, guess who's described every single character in every piece of fiction ever!
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>>81497614
>amethyst is based on Sugar

ew
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>>81497614
Explain amethyst
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>>81497667
>>81497681
Amethyst is the "fun older sister" aspect. Basically, Amy represents how she was around Steven Sugar when they were kids.
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>steven universe
>cancelled
Oh mama
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>>81497537
>>81497547
I've always thought normalfags, pretentious hipsters and Mr. Enter-tier autists hated it.
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>>81497614
>Characters are "apart" of the author.

>Said every hack writer ever.

>>81497639
Ya-huh.

>>81497659
Which is why SU gets so much unnecessary praise. People think gay romance hasn't been discussed before in writing? Top kek. Sugar is just riding the PC-SJW fan wave to the bank and people will suck her lady cock for it.
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>>81497681
maybe she was fat once
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>>81497733
>Implying you wouldn't suck Sugar's cock
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>>81497681
Pearl is the part of Rebecca that's protective of (the real life) steven and also how she is at work
Amethyst is the part of her that's only really visible around steven and also how she is at home
Garnet is who she wants to be
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>>81497733
Are you autistic?
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>>81497733
what about gay romance? We were talking about characters being amalgamations of tropes, which EVERY character is.

And as for monster of the week, it was useful as a backdrop to establish characters and magic rules. Now it's much less necessary and is additionally rather weak.
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>>81487792
oh god
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>>81497733
>>Characters are "apart" of the author.
>>Said every hack writer ever.
So every writer ever?
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>>81497717
UG is canceled you fucking fag.
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>>81497730
I don't know. It's "lolsorandum" because it's a show about a benevolent god-like being that can do anything.

People don't like "lolsorandum" on /co/.
Kids do, but for some reason didn't give it enough ratings.

I don't know what went wrong. I loved it.
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>>81497765
I mean...

she IS pretty cute.
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>>81497828
Hi retard, did you read past the first line of the thread?
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>>81487792
Even if SU doesn't get renewed after season 5, It's still 156 episodes.

Although I HIGHLY doubt it won't get renewed for at least as long as Rebecca needs to finish the story. If Adventure Time can get like 7 fucking seasons SU most definitely can get more than 3/5
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>>81497733
Did Sugar refuse to go with you to prom anon?
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Why does /co/ hate SU? SIs cause it's a ebin meme?
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>>81497733
>Ya-huh.
Then explain why instead of responding like a child.
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>>81497900
>It has minorities
>It has gays
>It has a fanbase on tumblr
You do the math.
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>>81497852
CN needs to keep Sucrose on the payroll if just because having Steven Universe air will help CN avoid all claims of misogyny/racism/homophobia.

SJW's can't criticize CN then, which should be good for them.
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>>81488554
THE FUCK CN
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>>81497851
Oh. Sorry. But why do you hate SU?
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>>81497785
I know you are but what am I?

>>81497820
Monster of the week and learning a lesson is classic. I wouldn't be upset if they did away with it entirely except they still try to pull it off and it falls flat due to the short time window each episode has. You can't have 11 mins of crying and fighting in the same episode it's clashing to much.

>>81497825
That was my point. if you have to defend your characters that way, you're a hack.

>>81497911
Read the thread.
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>>81497900
Mostly. There are problems with SU, just like with any show, but retards like to parrot "tumblr" and "muh lesbian lore" and what not.
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>>81489122
Steven can get to be a fucked up kid at times
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>>81497900
It's because it sets off all the warning signs for SJW/Tumblr shit, but since most of /co/ that hate it never progress past that first impression they don't learn that the show is really about how males are far more competent protagonists/parents than females and yuri out the wazzo.
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>>81497900
4chan as a whole is hipster central.
If another website likes it, then that means 4chan hates it.
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>>81497941
>It has gays
Subtle

>It has minorities
What?

>It has a fanbase on tumblr
And how does that affect the show?
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>>81488317
SU is the lowest rated show on Cn.
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>>81498018
He really wanted to burn things in season 1.
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>>81497980
>Read the thread.
>it's all the same tumblr bullshit
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>>81498050
Random are reason enough to hate something on 4chan.
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>>81498050
So you see how bullshit /co/ can be.
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>>81498094
To be fair. Isn't that every /co/ thread?
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>>81498053
Factually incorrect.

>>81497980
>can't have crying and fighting in an 11 minute episode.
A. I disagree, I've found all the crying to be in places I'd expect crying
B. Sugar can't help the format CN has boxed them into.
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>>81498101
*Fandoms
Auto-correct, you know how it is.
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>>81497851
Did you read the article?
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>>81490283
Except everyone does you retard
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>>81496826
Nah, Rose's rose was clearly just a stylized flower.

But the "stars" we've seen thus far do match up with Gem cuts. Peridot's looks like a simplified Princess Cut and the lines in Lapis' mirror match a round/tear cut.
The lines that form when she's being pulled out, however, look like they're just big ritual lines for the sake of fanciness in the storyboard since there's so many of them.
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>>81487792
Fuck new content. Let's just keep making shitty reboots of stuff that used to be succesful and totally ruin it. Seriously, no reboots or remakes have been even decent (PPG, Avatar, all those fucking Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry and Scooby Doo redos)

When will they learn
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>>81498132
Yeah.
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>>81497943
Anon major corporations don't actually care when a bunch of landwhales on a blogging site call them names, if it can't be used to make money.
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>>81497980
>That was my point. if you have to defend your characters that way, you're a hack.
That's not defending a character. That's drawing inspiration for your characters. It's not anything original.
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>>81498156
When the reboots stop making money/drawing in viewers.
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>>81487792
well thanks for ruining my day pal, i don`t giv a shit about steven tumblrverse but i love uncle grandpa
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>>81497650
>become
Anon, it clearly already is.

And before it, Adventure Time was overplayed as shit.
And years ago, Billy and Mandy ws overplayed as shit.

Kids networks find what works and gets the ratings, then they overplay the shit out of it. That's just how the industry works.
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>>81498182
The landwhales have (for lack of a better word) weight you know, or at least their culture does.

Look at Overwatch recently, or PPG reboot.

Steven Universe is helpful bait so these landwhales don't go after CN itself, despite actually arguing against SJW points.
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>>81497444
More like, /co/ntrarians
amiright?
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>>81498283
>Tumblrverse
Nice meme.
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>>81498151
Even so, I do have to wonder if the star points represent characters. Presumably centipeetle would be #4 for yellow diamond, though the other six blue court members are a mystery (assuming i'm not full of shit)
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>>81498316
When you default to calling them "landwhales", their arguments have weight as well, you know.
>>
ITT: ebin memes
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Can someone ban this shitposter already. TUMBLR TUMBLR SJW
Jesus christ. Shut the fuck up already you're like a god damn broken record. Is this how you express yourself in real life?
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>>81491759
I will have you know this is my new fav gif
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>>81496843
>Still gonna watch this train crash of a show though.
You survived reading that piece of shit that is homestuck so you are probably gonna be able to take this too btw I'm hyped for tomorrows flash
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>>81498417
About a thousand pounds, actually.
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>>81498059
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>>81487792
and nothing of value was lost.

uncle Grandpa is mind meltingly stupid homor and Steven Universe is SJW propaganda
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>>81496843
>>81498495
>clearly hates the show
>still watches it
What is this sadomasochism?
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>>81498600
And this is bait.
Also, no one ever said SU was canceled.
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>>81498600
>Implying SU is cancelled
>implying SU is propaganda
I started to think that /co/ is a shitty board.
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>>81498600
>Steven Universe is SJW propaganda
This has been disproven so many times.
And yet, the meme refuses to die.
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>>81498692
>think
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>>81498537
Yep, I walked right into that one. Regardless, my point stands.
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>>81498600
Are you samefagging?
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>>81498762
What point? That calling out people for being horrible excuses for human beings reinforces their accusations of the same against us?

>If you kill your enemies, they win.
t. Justin Trudeau
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>>81498692
/a/ laughs at us.
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>>81497650
No they are going to attempt to replace it with PPG since that is done in house and they get all the profits
Which is good since the PPG reboot is pretty good compared to TTGO
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>>81498762
Unlike them heyoooo
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>>81498824

/a/ has shit taste, so who cares?
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>>81497396
When TTG became our new favorite show. Once ppg starts airing regularly people will start to like teen titans go. It's the circle of life
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>>81487954
Kill yourself senpai
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>>81490255
This nigga gets it
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>>81498824
Y'know, that would hurt coming from literally any other board
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>>81498692
It's becoming the next /v/ in terms of shittiness. Hell maybe is the same /v/ posters that came here for the capshit and then got into these threads to screw everything up
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>>81499010
>Bait in 1080p
>Picture is 680x445
This triggers my autism
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>>81496575
>Steven
fat ugly retarded lardass with a punched in nose and a haircut that looks like a cross between lisa simpson and a jewfro. instantly hateable.
>Garnet
blocky but at least has hips, the least offensive of the main character designs
>Amethyst
fat purple nigger
>Pearl
dipping water bird
>Connie
poo in loo mary sue
>
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>>81498815
This is going to get boring and pedantic, but the term "landwhale" was devised (from what I can tell) as a term of demeanment for women, implying that a fat woman is unattractive, and that an unattractive woman is worthless. You never hear anyone call men landwhales or hambeasts, for instance. The SJW narrative focuses in large part on the idea that men use these terms to enforce a patriarchy. You jumping straight to "landwhale" proves that point. There are surely better ways to air your grievances.
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>>81499349
/co/ misuses those sort of images so much that they have been ran into the ground and are just pointless.

not even worth returning the favor of a (you) to such posts if they're replying to ya.
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>>81499383
Got autism?
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>>81499383
>this anon
has shit fucking taste
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>>81496282
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>>81489898
Because her hair is the fish
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>>81499383
So, serious question, what the fuck does Mary Sue even mean anymore to /co/? Because I swear I see this board call every female who isn't brain-dead retarded or straight up crazy a Mary Sue at some point or another.
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>>81499730
It means [character I don't like}, just like every other term we use here.
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>>81499730
In this particular instance I think he's saying that because her sword fighting skills are unrealistically good for a 12 year old girl. Not that I agree
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>>81499753
Then what should I call actual Mary Sue's?
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>>81499825
Post one, first.
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>>81499825
A poorly written character
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>>81499857
But poorly written character is a more encompassing term. It doesn't really say as much as "Mary sue" does when it's used properly.
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>>81499981
Mary Sue is almost never used properly
Anyone who isn't braindead and isn't a housewife is a mary sue to /co/
Anyone who isn't street level in comic's is a Mary Sue or Gary Stu to /co/
Its a stupid term and needs to be filtered to well rounded character by Chinese moot to fuck with people who use it
Just say that you think the character hasn't earned their abilities or that they arent properly challenged or something. Thats closer to what you mean than mary sue
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>>81499825
for her to be a mary sue she'd have to do something her male counterparts from the previous movies couldn't
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>>81500176
Yeah, that makes sense. Takes a bit more effort but I guess mary sue was always a bit of a lazy descriptor.
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>>81500337
>Luke spends time learning the force and training to become a real Jedi
>Rey overpowers Kylo Ren and reads HIS mind with absolutely no training or idea what the hell she was doing.
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>>81500176
if anything steven is a mary sue.

He always makes the morally right choices, he's a half-human half-gem hybrid, he gets new powers every other episode, he has a magic lion, and even though he's almost completely worthless despite all those gifts people still treat him as perfect
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>>81500458
He's definitely closer than the rest of the cast to being a mary sue, but he has no control over his power, so he's incredibly reliant on his emotional state to be useful. He's also very childish despite his age, though he's slowly growing out of that.

He's the most stable of the characters, but he's still far from a mary sue.
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>>81500458
>>81500575

He's moreso the rock (hehe) of the Crystal Gems than a mary sue. Pearl, Garnet, and Amethyst rely on him to various extents while Peridot (and Centipeetle and Lapis and possibly Jasper) rely pretty much entirely on him existing to be part of the team.
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>>81500575
>he has no control over his power
When he first discovers them, he has no control.

In Friend Ship he summons his shield 3 times, and even Captain America'd Peridot. He's growing as a character.
That doesn't mean he isn't the closest we have to a Mary Sue, it just means he's getting better.
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>>81500795
Fair enough

>>81500821
He's definitely getting better, but I'm just saying, his only reliable power at this point is the ability to summon his weapon, and even just to do that, we've seen him work for it.
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>>81500455
Don't forget she also whooped Kylo's ass even though he already beat up Finn, a man we can reasonably assume to have had a metric fuckton of combat training and experience.
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>>81501045
Yeah...I didn't want to sit there and type out the entire argument as to why Rey was a completely BS character, I just went with one of the more convenient and obvious plot points.
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>>81487792
>Uncle Grandpa is cancelled,

HOORAY!!!
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>>81500455
Luke didn't get a proper Jedi training, he just wagged a stick at a ball for a little while and then fucked around in a swamp with a muppet.
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>>81501114
Yeah.

Granted, I will say that they did start Kylo and Rey's fight by making her try to use the lightsaber as if it were that pole weapon of hers. So that's a minor plus, at least.
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>>81501677
That was a nice touch, but my problem with Rey is the fact that if you asked me to come up with a character flaw she had and actually displayed in the movie, the only example I can give is the fact that she ran away when she saw Luke's memories rather than acting like a generic hero and just powering through any anxiety of the situation, and even that just ended up being used as a plot device for her to be alone so she could be captured.
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>>81487792
>newage cartoons I can give a shit about getting canceled
Its a good thing I dont have cable, and torrent my shit or else id be upset.
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>>81501677
Also remember that Kylo was fighting after having been gut shot by a bowcaster bolt, which the movie showed several times as being powerful as hell.
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>>81502060
Did he? If he did, I must have forgot about it since he seemed to be walking around fine afterwards.

Did Finn have an excuse for jobbing, or did he just not grasp lightsaber combat?
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>>81502238
He was a janitor
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>>81502362
I always assumed that line to mean that Stormtroopers have something of a limited supply, and that they get cross-trained and positioned just about anyway when not doing combat.
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>>81493315
I try not to talk about cartoons I like when the fandom is small fandoms are terrible.
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