Killing Joke Movie 10 Minute Featurette

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Okay, I'm not even a footfag, but that's just bad.

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>>81394378
Babs confirmed

>>81394568
wheres the cum stains?

at least we have one dc movie to look forward to this year

>>81394378
DAMN THATS SCARY

>>81394568
yeah that's.. did he think it was babs bunny by mistake?

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>>81394707
>Literally the only good DC product to come out this year
I don't even like Batman that much.

>>81394707
This and Suicide Squad

>>81394794
The problem was adapting nu52 shit

>>81394805

>suicide squad going through expensive reshoots to add humor

not anymore

>>81394568
jeez Joe learn to focus a shot

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>>81394865
you're kidding me

I'm honestly really not a fan of the killing joke. The only part of the story that seems of worth to read to me is that ending moment between Joker and Batman. And no he doesn't kill the joker.

But besides that it was mostly just shock value shlock. And i'm a fervent lover of Alan Moores work but I feel like this was kind of a pointless story over all. For all the 'wahh sjw ruin everything' complains on /co/ it was an honestly shitty way to treat a character for the purpose of 'driving gordon mad' which never even fucking happened. And it was a big step on the road to the current day super hardcore kill crazy joker. I don't blame alan moore for that. It was the people of lesser talent after him who couldn't think of any other direction to go but the cool seeming one. But if not for killing joke joker, you dont get the sloppy slippery slope leading to 'face nailed on joker' in the dark breaking the necks of like fifteen police officers.

I just never felt like there was much to the story and I don't imagine its going to make a very interesting story on screen either.

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>>81394805
>Suicide Squad
>Literally re-shooting an entire movie that's schedule to be released in four months and aiming for an entirely different tone
>Good

>>81394927
Not him but yeah, reshoots are scheduled for SS and its 5 months away

>>81394378
>Half-assedly strikes Killing Joke from the canon
>Releases an adaptation of it the very same year

Why can't DC into synergy?

Tara Strong is returning to play her iconic role of Batgirl.

>>81394865
>Morons still swallow the bullshit theyre fed

>>81394971
Well, at least it gave us Oracle

>>81395030
bruce timm btfo babsgirl!

>>81394378
The animation looks horrible.

>>81394927
>>81395003
>>81395007
It's only a rumor about the tone change, and it's not like reshoots aren't common. Ayer has stated from the start that the movie would have a lighter tone and be more "fun" that it appears at first glance.

>>81394865
how was it not humorous
it's fucking suicide squad
it has harley goddamn quinn and the goddamn joker in it
>>81394971
eh it's well written. comics need that. plus once in a while it's neat when the joker does really extra fucked up shit. not much appeal beyond that though

>>81395003
It's fucking ridiculous. They fired all the actors and the director and recast it with people from glee and big bang theory and brought on Evan goldberg to direct cos they want superbad style.
Also joss whedon rewrote the script and amanda waller is now played by mellisa mccarthy.

No i'm serious its true....unnamed sources told me. Trust me this is what happened someone honestly told me but i just cant say who.

>>81394378
Looks good can't wait for the movie to come out.

>>81395058
I will admit good came out of it. I kinda forgot that but yeah because of the stories existence others salvaged it and brought out oracle. so it did have a very positive unintended side effect which was great.

>>81395097
>It's only a rumor about the tone change, and it's not like reshoots aren't common. Ayer has stated from the start that the movie would have a lighter tone and be more "fun" that it appears at first glance.
yeah but some guy said some people told him? why wouldn't i just assume thats what happened?

>>81395202
Which is fucking pointless these days now since DC and their infinite wisdom decided to handwave that away for the sake of more batgirl

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>>81395035
>>81395097
Did you learn NOTHING from BvS?

Animation looks kind of spotty. Some of it looks alright. DESU to be honest it might've been better to have it Timm-style. Voice cast seems good, hope they get Robert Costanzo back for Bullock.

Now if only Tara could stick to Babsgirl and not do a shitty job as Harley.

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>>81395150
>I-it's not true, it's all unconfirmed. WB/DC knows what they're doing, they won't fuck up one of their biggest movies. Why don't you go see BvS again, it's not so bad.

>>81394971
>for the purpose of 'driving gordon mad' which never even fucking happened.
The fact that it didn't is the point.
By your logic at the end of The Dark Knight the boats should've blown each other up

>>81394568
rape confirmed.

>>81395516
They should, honestly. In a movie of killer clowns and men dressed as bats, that was the most stretching thing in it.

>>81395612
I thought he just took pictures?

>>81395516
The point is not that it didnt fuck gordon up. The point is that they brutalized and crippled batgirl for the sake of a story which didn't actually have any effect on the character she was sacrificed to fuck up.

>>81395516

This.

>>81395720
Yeah he shot her, got her naked, and brought a couple of big thugs just to take some pictures. no doubt they held the light up while he 'just took pictures' of her naked body.

>>81395720
I always read it as he raped her too. I felt they tried to downplay it afterwards when they made it part of continuity as him raping Batgirl probably isn't good for marketing, but I dunno.

>>81395784
I just cant picture Joker getting off to something that isnt batman

>>81395857
He doesn't have to get off on it, it needs to shock Gordon

>>81395784
The only thing Joker would rape is Batman.

And by that I mean he wants Batman to rape him.

The real question is: will Batman kill the Joker by a neck snap at the end of the movie?

>>81395857
He'd rape someone just to make Batman upset. No different than killing someone I'd think. He doesn't really have a boundary.

Trailer when? This movie is supposed to be out this summer right?

>>81394378
>vaguely keeping true to the Bolland art
10/10

It'd be great if it were feasible to keep and animate Bolland's meticulous shading and inking, but alas.

>Dat Conroy laugh
>Dat Bolland style of animation

This may just be the GOAT comic book related thing ever

What a time to be alive

They're making Babsgirl a character and not just a plot device. Does this affect your viewing experience? Are they making it better or ruining it?

>>81395990
I don't mean him i mean the two thugs joker brought. Joker just took the pictures.

>>81396538
She was already a character in the comic, it's just that the reader was expected to know what she was about from other comics. I don't think there will be much of a change.

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Is there any chance of getting the original coloring? Maybe in some special edition or something

Fuck, I'm reaching TPP-levels of hype right now for this

I don't think my body could take another TPP though

>>81396538
Depends in how they do so.
>>81396613
>>81395990
>>81395784
No time man, he had to take pictures and get on wit the rest of his night.

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>>81396225
I think if they wanted to, they could have simulated hatching and airbrush with computers, but that might have seemed gimmicky.

>>81396689
>She was already a character in the comic
No you killing joke dicksucker, she wasn't. She appeared in 2 pages and was used as a plot device. Author's intent was always to use her that way, Moore didn't give a fuck if you knew her or not, cared about her or not.

>>81396692
TPP?

>>81396690
Didn't they plan to re release it with original coloring for extra skrilla?

>>81396690
There's always some discussion of this in every related thread.
>Original-true to the story, and looks more interesting anyway
>Recolor-suits Bolland's artstyle

This can go either way.

>>81396913
The Phantom Pain, I'm assuming.

>>81396913
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain

Kojima fucking rused everyone with how amazing he made the trailers for the game, compared to the husk that was the final released game

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>>81396225
Eh, I know it's completely unfeasible, but since they can't do justice to the original art without sizable compromise, I'd rather it be done in the Animated Series style.

>>81396690
>2008: Let's just not have lights or realize they exist.

>1988: The whole scene is dominated by the lighting

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>>81396690
why so ugly in the recoloring??

>>81394378
joker looks like a monster from ninja scroll, i dig it

>>81397015
Thought that too, but I wasn't sure.

>>81397022
V is a disaster. Worst part for me was how they made Eli a caricature of MGS1's Liquid, he didn't get any character development. Big Boss didn't bully him and made him evil, he's just a cunt

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>>81394378
>this animation

Wow...this looks really fucking bad.

Also, is just me or does the art style look inconsistent as fuck? Like different studios did different micro scenes and they just spliced it all together.

>>81396755
>No time man, he had to take pictures and get on wit the rest of his night.
"Sex, with cripples?! There's no time, man!"

>>81397026
This is mostly what it comes down to... the detail of Brian Bolland originals artwork is such that any effort to outright duplicate it for an animated adaptation is gonna fail and end up being far far worse than if you hadn't tried to duplicate it in the first place.

>>81397286
It looks like there's a Bolland slider they keep fiddling with that makes it more faithful to the comic or less depending on the importance of what's being shown, I mean, it's really distracting how much more detailed that final part with Joker laughing with his hand in his head is than all of the rest.

>>81397258
Worst for me was how much focus they gave Quiet and all her backstory love story crap, even though she's a one-off character

Then you have those stupid credits at every mission, the whole ending/chap 2 shit, and the empty overworld which they could have mediated slightly if they added in random skull fights.

>>81397286
I can see what you mean. Some of the more still scenes are pretty damn good looking and inline with Bolland style, but the action scenes seem less detailed and sloppier compared to the other parts.

Sorta like that new Gundam series except even the worst parts still are good looking

>>81394971
>And no he doesn't kill the joker
Wasn't there a Kevin Smith podcast where he interviewed someone that said flat out that the Batman killed Joker in that last pane. That's why the laugh just stopped abruptly.

>>81396986
It suits Bolland's style as it is now, maybe. But Bolland's style in Killing Joke wasn't the flat digital stuff he does now, it was the same he was using for other comics colored the same way.

What kills me is that Bolland says the coloring is how he originally intended it, butt here's no way that can be true. Digital coloring didn't start becoming standardized for almost a decade after, and the kinds of tones you could do in inked comic work where vastly different. A 1988 KJ colored by Bolland COULDN'T look the the 08 recolor.

>>81397053
I think it works because the Killing Joke is implied to take place in a world where all those crazy golden/silverage stories happened as well. The Batcave is a fantastical place and should look like so, just like the amusement park.

>>81397286
All these fucking DC movies have such bland art styles. I hate it. this should be a golden renaissance as far as DC animation is concerned, but it all looks so damn bland.

>>81397720
It was Morrison

>>81397185
Digital colors

>>81394568
How triggered is tumblr going to be by this movie? I can't wait.

Is Mark Hamill coming back for this?

>>81397720
Unless the person was alan moores script which states he didn't it don't really matter.

although i fucking love fatman on batman.

>>81397743
But with Bolland's draftsmanship, he probably just wished it could have been digitally colored.

Hopefully it's not an issue to agonize over, the original colors are far more interesting anyway, and something sorely missed from contemporary coloring styles.

>>81397864
No.

>>81397864
No.

>people saying Bolland's art can't be adapted for animation

WRONG
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pi5qoxxQpMY

Joker looks like shit tho, bats looks like red hood bats, Joker could look like that too

>>81395784
>Yeah he shot her, got her naked, and brought a couple of big thugs just to take some pictures
he did the exact same thing with Gordon. Actually, he did even worst with him.

>>81397864
A Killing Joke adaptation was Mark's only exception to his "never playing the Joker again" stance. So he's playing him and with heart.

>>81397864
No, it's Troy Baker imitating Hamill

Star Wars filming messed his scheduling up for this

>>81397992
Now do that for an hour and a half and we're golden.

>>81398076
wow...that really fucking sucks?

I feel like thats something they should have changed the schedule for. Like seriously its the one role mark said hed come back to joker for, for one last go. and they just went ahead without the guy.

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>>81398143
Well Troy sounds better than usual, honestly. Check out the preview in the OP.

>>81397992
God this commercial gives me such a animation boner. It's so overanimated and wonderful in movement, but the still frames work as illustrations as well.

If they could do this art style with a more restrained animation style... I don't think there are many people trained in the animation field to do this kind of stuff any more though.

>>81398143
Bruce Timm doesn't really give a shit anymore.

>>81397992
Animators don't do stuff that smooth anymore, and if they did, it would cost a lot

>>81397720
>>81397822
You're totally right. Morrison and Smith are the ultimate authorities when it comes to someone else's work.

>>81398050
Ever since Hamill said he would never play the Joker again he played him in Arkham Knight, this and will be doing Justice League Action too.

>>81398076
>>81397864
>>81398192
If you fucking watched the clip you would see Mark Hammil in the fucking booth and being interviewed you fucking idiot.

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so is Batman: Odyssey next up?

>>81397992
these commercials are fucking incredible

Wish they'd actually animate it properly and copy the art style and aesthetic of the comic book. Instead we get this fucking korean anime animation that sucks ass.

>>81397992
These commercials are better than almost everything out today.

>>81397864
>>81397938
>>81397988
I mean, he's just coming back for this movie. He said he would always want to do the killing joke, and here it is. You can clearly hear his laugh in the video.

>>81398324
>Batman oddyssey
>Batman has the huge mouth/jaw and semi-british accent from the zellers commercials

>>81398387
See the video you dumb dodo head

>>81398305
What is a joke?
What is a prank?
What is a trick?
What is you?

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>>81398471
This is my dream.

>>81396047
they're going to puss out no matter what grant morrison says

>>81398618
>Implying Morrison has a say in Killing Joke story

L O L
E
L

>>81398678
>implying I said anything about grant morrison being an authority

only in the sense that he's allowed to have an opinion on it, which is that it's more interesting if batman kills joker

for obvious reasons dc isn't actually going to do that

>>81398835
Is better if they leave it ambiguous like the story, no "Batman doesn't/does kill the Joker", just is up to the viewer

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>>81394378
>timm and dini on it
>kevin conroy
>hamill

>>81398879
yeah this is the best way to go, and probably how they do it

i just hope they dont fuck up the new barbara plot. it could really add to her getting btfo if they focus on the right things but it risks being tacked on and bloated otherwise

>>81398261
So he was never serious about that quitting stuff?

Is he doing this now during Star Wars or he already recorded all his lines? I just wondered cause no beard

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>>81398324
A movie adaptation based on Batman: Odyssey would be something incredible to behold.

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>>81397286
I don't know if there's a term for it, but there's this animation style I see from time to time in anime where they do heavy black shadows/pure white highlights and flat colors rather than digital shading. I think that might have made it feel more Bolland-y... it would have at least made it more distinctive.

>>81398964

It's the only story Zack Snyder couldn't fuck up. He literally couldn't make it make any less sense then the original comic.

>>81398945
doing the voice is more of a strain now so he's less inclined to do it, but since he does enjoy the character he's willing to come back for something like this

also this was probably recorded some time ago between star wars shoots

>>81398945
He probably was just really tired of the role at the time and said it without meaning it, also him saying that helped promote Arkham City a little bit.

He got rid of the beard as soon as he could after wrapping up Star Wars, but in this featurette they speak like the lines were recorded some time ago, so it could be either, honestly.

>>81397829
remember that their triggering to a REFERENCE to the comic was so palpable the cover had to be pulled off the shelves.

>>81398964
Man, I remember Odyssey threads. Still have the hardcover, it's an incredible piece of madness. I still feel my brains turning to jelly when I try to make sense of it.

>>81398964
its.....just so beautiful.....
it brings a tear to my eye.

>>81399117
Isn't the Albuquerque guy who made that variant cover the artist for the new Batgirl book post Rebirth? I can't help but feel that's some DC editor taking silent revenge.

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>>81398965
Yesssss, that's precisely what I'm thinking too. The current style they're using is so lifeless and.. Ben10 looking.

They straight up say in the video that it would be "too hard" to copy Bolland's style, but they didn't even try to have a visually appealing art style.

>>81399254
It looks like an episode of a regular cartoon, honestly.

>>81399254
thats just sad. . .

what happened to animation?

>>81399354
>>81399323
i feel like they blew a good amount of animation budgets on scenes like the one from OP and just half assed the other scenes like that one and the ones in the flashback bar for red hood

>>81399254
>Joker actually has that shitty hair in the movie
Fucking dropped

One important question is, how will the Joker's song to Gordon sound?

>>81399468
>complaining that an adaption adheres to the choices of the original

gr8 b8 m8

>>81394794
We still don't know if Justice League Action will be good.

Am I the only one who doesn't like The Killing Joke?
Joker is legitimately not funny or interesting, just super fucking edgy for no real reason.

>>81395734
>The point is that they brutalized and crippled batgirl for the sake of a story which didn't actually have any effect on the character she was sacrificed to fuck up.
Confirmed for not knowing your history.
Babs wasn't Batgirl when she got shot. She wasn't even crippled when she got shot. She wasn't even being USED when she got shot, and hadn't been for years.

>>81399585
I like killing Joke for the implication that Joker always had a few screws loose and he uses the accident to justify his actions

>>81399468
That isn't the Joker in that scene

>>81397864
Yes

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/exclusive-kevin-conroy-mark-hamill-star-batman-killing-joke

>>81399254
Christ they didn't even bother. It looks like some fan art I'd see on DA instead of an animated movie.

This will feel like the true finale to BTAS

>>81399585
He does actually joke around after shooting Babs though. Even goes the extra mile and dresses in mock outfit.

>>81399728
The flashback in Return of the Joker was already a good finale to BTAS

>>81399728
But Return of the Joker was a great finale

>>81399764
God damn how do I keep forgetting that one

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>>81399523
>adheres to the choices of the original
Except that it fucking doesn't, it looks like a teenager spikey hair, it's stupid
In the comics it is wavy as fuck, and is mostly to the back, kinda like DiMaggio's Joker on UtRH

Considering how triggered the SJWs got with that Batgirl cover, how much will they get this time?

Either way, if the animation is bad you can always read killing joke with the BTAS voices

>>81399828
Enough to cripple

>>81399675
see >>81399808

>>81399828
They're trying to avoid that by adding in the Batgirl plot

Spend the first part of the movie showing that Batgirl is a complicated but powerful character, and make it even worse when the joker fucking paralyzes her.

>>81399828
I live under Iraq what exactly did they get pissed off about this time?

>>81396690
what the fuck is up with that shadow?

>>81399968
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dc-comics-cancels-batgirl-joker-variant-at-artists-request

>>81394378
>Expanding the story with prequel content

No please no

The art and animation looks so bad for this

I just want one of these animated DC movies to be good again :(

>>81400001
Dang I was hoping it'd be about her ass or something.

>>81394568
Footredditors BTFO

ahahahahah

>>81400025
Enjoy your 20 minute feature film then

>>81399254
They don't have the budget, they want to do it, probably begged for the money, but WB told them to suck a cock.(no citation)

>>81399585
If you had read the thread, you'd already know that someone already expressed a similar sentiment so no, you're not the only one. >>81394971

Moore himself has also commented on the book a couple of times and stated that he doesn't think it's a very good book.

I liked the book's art and it was one of the earliest bat-books I read, but I never cared for its story either. What bothers me the most is that part near the end where the Joker loses his theatrical confident demeanor, appears sorrowful, and there's a moment of connection between him and Batman. That part doesn't feel in-character to me, and the book's resolution feels weak to me because of that.

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>>81399808
>that pic
It's QUALITY DIO all over again

>>81400056
I'd be fine with a shorter film honestly, especially if the leftover budget when towards better animation

>>81397800
There was a period of time whan all of DC's animated movies were pretty great (around 2010), but it dropped off pretty hard it seems

>>81400331
hey the dark knight returns animated movies were pretty good and they're post-under the red hood...

>>81397800
At least they aren't using that faux anime style they used in the last animations

>>81400156
My nigga i'm not talking about the quality of the animation, i'm talking about the retarded hair they're using on the Joker

>>81396690
HAHAHAHA
After what they did with Year One close to its movie, forget about it.

>>81400391
no they weren't.

of course, that could have been due to the godawful source material.

>>81396690
There's a collection of Alan Moore DC stories that has the og coloring

>>81394378
kinda disappointed at how it looks, sure, it looks fine for being on the same line of movies these direct-to-video DC superheroes look, but for something like the Killing Joke, the animation should be just as fluid and detailed as the comic it came from.

Personally, I'd make this using Rotoscoping a lá American Pop, it always gives an unsettling effect

>>81399254
It just looks so digital.

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>>81397497
Yeah, the screenshot in the OP and this scene look remarkably different from >>81399254

I suppose it's a cost-cutting measure and they're not putting extra work in unless it's a really important scene. But I'm happy that they at least seem to have made an attempt to make this particular scene stand out. The part where the guy does the maniacal laugh and turns into the Joker was a memorably terrifying moment in the comic, and it looks like it's gonna be like that in the movie too.

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I'm going to get yelled at, but I think they should have gotten DiMaggio for this.

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>>81400977

>>81400432
Good one, baby girl.

>>81396690

Imagine if they had done a mix of this. With the few quick beginning Batman segments it'd resemble the recolor, but as Joker becomes more prominent throughout the book, the 80's coloring starts to creep in like corruption.

>>81400977
>>81401030
He was pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAP1gWpXq4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsPh_1exnYE

Sounded like a Joker who'd been in the game for a while, showing his age, but still had that manic energy about him.

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>>81394378
>Tara Strong as Batgirl

Fuck off, tired old whore!

Why do they even bother talking about the artstyle when they are using the same generic artstyle they have been using since BTAS?
Also the animation looks cheap, you will think they would make an effort for this adaptation.

>>81400977
I'd be ok with a whole new cast. I love the old cast but they sound kind of old now and their range isn't what it used to be.

>>81401314
>2D animation
>effort
LOL

Expect your average CN schlock but with blood and killing in it, there are no 2D American animators nowadays.

>>81400156
Still amaze me how they fuck up so badly in the animation of the 'most iconic' arc for most people, specially after the good streak from the previous 2, hope it gets better on the dvd

>>81394378
why the fuck is it on daily motion?

>>81401278
Well, it WILL make what's going to happen to her more enjoyable.

I just fuckin' wish all the batman and joker fans would drown in a vat of acid at this point

I'm so fucking done with Batman. Every year batman games batman animated movies fuckin' Batman v. Superman was ALL FUCKING BATMAN FOCUSED all the comics are about Batman just someone please, for the love of god, give us something NOT BATMAN.

>>81394378
YES

>>81401483
>drown in a vat of acid at this point
and then an army of jokers.

>>81401483
is not the fans fault DC can't think beyond their more popular franchises.

>>81401483
I would totally read not batman if it had batman and the joker in it

>>81394378
>normal color palette
trash

>>81401483
How about Batboy?

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Cute

More shit we've seen a million times, I'm so excited.

>All these people expecting above great quality animation

Maybe if it was an actual feature film released in theaters with a huge budget. But it isn't, it has a bigger budget than your normal animated TV Shows. Anime Movies are way better animated since those are actually shown in theaters.

>>81394378
I think the Bruce Timm art style really hurts it visually. I get that it's easier to animate and whatnot, but the impact of things get deflated when it looks like a slightly modified BTAS clone. Especially if you nearly adapt the Bolland artwork for certain shots and then go to the Timm style for all the others. It's really jarring and ruins the tone.

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Jesus, Bruce

>>81401866
Timm Style? It isn't, Timm Style is, buff chest, weak legs, and large manly chins.

>>81394378
ugh, I just feel like the animation could have been MUCH smoother.

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>>81394378
Great. An hour and a half of suffering. Just what the doctor ordered.

>>81401867
Not sure if wrinkles or hair on Alfred

>>81401935
It's got a lot of influences. Look at Batgirl and Batman (especially here >>81399254). It looks like a desaturated Saturday morning cartoon in most shots.

>>81394378
>Mark Hamil Joker
fuckin soooooooold

>>81399165
Should i read it?

>that Battyman laugh
My dick exploded

>>81402096
do you like comics that are COMPLETELY INSANE?

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>Joker's fw he sees Dawn of JUSTice

>>81402240
I-I guess.

I mean, Injustice is crazy for me, so i don't know.

>>81401990
people don't have wrinkles on their scalp, anon.

>>81394568

They still can correct it, right?.

No Kevin Conroy? He's Based Bat-Voice

>>81402304
Injustice is tame compared to Odyssey

TAME

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>>81402304
If you can catch an Odyssey storytime here, those are a fun way to read through the book.

>>81394843
New 52 isn't entirely bad. They could do anything from Snyder's run and make a decent movie.

>>81402260
>Joker's face when Jared Leto's Joker

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>>81402385
I love Odyssey

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>>81402361
You could watch the video before commenting on it.

>>81402404
>Death of the Family or Endgame would be good to adapt
U wot

>>81402416
is that... a bat-smirk? is he being... smug?

>>81402416
tsundere batman is best batman

>>81402483
why do the trunks work so well?

>>81402496
O'Neil/Adams Batman was smug and in turn Morrison's is as well.
Don't read much Batman do you?

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>>81402416

>>81402483
Woah. I've skipped ahead on the video and right to one of the Bat scenes. He doesn't sound like Kevin, but maybe it's just how different the animation has been compared to TAS.

>>81402847
Storytime it, if you love it so much.

>>81401314
>when they are using the same generic artstyle they have been using since BTAS?

I'm pretty sure TNBA and S:TAS weren't this detailed. Or even B:TAS, which was different from those two.

This doesn't look any better than any other DC animated feature over the past decade. I'm not even sure if they can properly adapt TKJ without it coming off as a half-assed, rehashed fanwank.

The art looks terrible. It looks like the same stilted animation of a North Korean slave labor camp that I expect from DC these days, and it doesn't have any sense of style of it's own, much less art capable of the surreal, manic horror of the book. And I'm sorry, I just don't feel Conroy anymore. He's capable of better, but their directors just don't seem to be able to bring it out of him anymore.

I guess I'm asking why I should watch this when I can read the book? What's new or innovative to the story that the producers though they could achieve through animation?

Mark Hamill is just my favourite person ever.
The man is just so genuine.

>>81402988
adding Mark Hamill I guess

>>81394865
>>81395003
>retards actually believe this

>>81402988
On second though, I think it's just the writing. Conroy seemed fine when I played Arkham Asylum, but the dialogue just seems wooden the clips. But then again I don't really hold TKJ in the high regard as everyone seems to, so maybe my opinions are just garbage.

It's funny, Warner Bros. could actually make a small fortune if they wanted to make another BTAS or just any properly animated Batman feature film. I think we've proven that nostalgia for the series is at an all time high and it's not like their live-action features are doing anything special.

>>81403232
no, most of /co/ can agree that TKJ is pretty weak outside the art

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>>81403232
>just any properly animated Batman feature film
they just released one recently.

>>81403350
I meant something with a huge budget, like the Disney revival. DC's current run of animated films look like they were done on a shoestring budget and the producers traded favors and IHOP gift cards to get it finished.

Have the sjws started getting angry yet?

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will it come out in theaters or be a home movie?

>>81403269
Didn't Timm also kinda say that in the video?

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>>81403486
The majority of DC's animated movies haven't gotten theatrical releases, so I don't expect this to get one either.

>>81401225
That sounds like it could've been a cool idea.

>>81403532
>majority of DC's animated movies haven't gotten theatrical releases
damn
i really hope they start doing that more

It's bad when South Park did the Killing Joke homage better animated than this, that fucking halway scene with the monitors looks fucking atrocious and the backgrounds are blander than a fucking Ben 10 background.

>>81398945
He definitely recorded all his lines quite a while ago.

>>81394707
>Lego Batman

>>81399090
>He got rid of the beard as soon as he could after wrapping up Star Wars
tragedy of the century

>>81403532
Aww, he's performing.

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>>81394378
Brian Bolland's Joker makes me feel funny, if you know what I mean

>>81403984
It was a pretty good joke.

>>81403984
>Batman is torn between wanting to hurt the Joker and wanting to kiss him

I love TKJ because it humanizes the Joker. It gives him dimension. It's not important what exactly happened to him to mold him into the cruel monster he is now, the origin shown in the book shouldn't be taken literally. It's the notion that he thinks some cruel fate befell him which explains to some extent at least the reason behind his actions.

>>81404314
TKJ was probaly one of the few Batman comics that stood out to me for that very same reason, because everyone else lingers on how the Joker is some evil clown dude that laughs a lot and is evil, that end with him just giving up on the whole crazy act and just talking like a normal human being for once was literally the best part of the book, and I'm afraid that in the animated movie it isn't going to be him just saying it honestly, it's going to be him mildly sounding crazy or something

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>>81404484
Nah, man. Trust Timm and Mark.

>>81404520
another thing I hope is that when Joker tells him the joke they both laugh sincerely and kinda warmly, and that there is no music except for the rain in the background, because I swear, if they play some piano cue and fade to black I'm gonna swear that to the day I die I'll personally direct a 40-minute adaptation of TKJ

>>81404561
I want to see that happen, anon.

>>81401421
Was better in the dvd

>>81396690
Fuck you anon. Im legitimately going to be disappointed in the movie now because of how good this idea is.

Not gonna bother to watch this because Bruce Timm basically just admitted they're only making it for money when he referred to the story as "horrible". There's no really any other reason to adapt it otherwise.

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On the scale of 1 to 10, how gay will this be?

>>81404771
A solid 7 from what we've seen so far.

>tfw they change the ending and make it so Babs comes back and beats the shit out joker because "feminism

>>81404920
Don't joke about that

>>81403665

2017

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>>81404771
As gay as this picture of Superman about to be molested by Luthor.

Animated Babs only showed up in the final seconds of the previous movie; there's no time for audiences to form any emotional attachment before she gets retired by Joker.

>>81394586
I see no pink rabbit you yuts.

>>81405029
This is unrelated to previous movies Senpai

>>81396690
1988: Jokers POV

2008: Batmans angle

Giving Babs a bit of a prologue was the smartest thing they could have done since they won't have to mess with the story and Babs just being a plot device is a major controversy for todays progressive crowd

>>81405029
Again, no pink rabbit, stop being delusional.

I now realize that this whole plot thing with Batgirl they're putting in is not going to work, one because the story is not about her in the slightest, two it's going to take focus away from the story because now the film is going to ask you to be invested in the fight because Joker sodomized Babs rather than being a personal fight with the Joker

>>81405057

You sure? Is DC trying to create a continuity with all the DC movies after Flashpoint?

>>81405081
This is not a Tiny Toons topic.

>>81405089

Loosely but so few people care it's not important. How much money does WB make from these films. 10 million?

>>81399828
Actually adapting TKJ is different from shoehorning references to it in every fucking thing Babs ever appears in.

>>81405085
Or maybe I just skip the first 10 minutes and Moore's vision remains intact.

>>81405275
>10 minutes
unless they pad out the rest, it's very unlikely TKJ, even unaltered would be anything more than a 40 minute film, because the original comic feels like the last 3 scenes of a movie more than anything.

>>81403984
Christ, this art style is my favorite. It looks so touchable and...soft? I guess. The linework is super nice, too.

>>81395784
>rape a girl who can't even feel it
Not sure if Joker would find that funny.

Looks like complete dogshit on every level, but I guess that's about par for DC's animated films.

>>81405275
If you care about Moore's vision, just read the comic.

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>>81404743
I was gonna argue that he probably just meant that the events that happen to Babs and Jim are horrible, and he wasn't commenting on the plot/writing. But then I listened to it again and I think you're right.

>Timm: Brian Bolland's artwork is so gorgeous that when you're reading the comic, you can at least kinda go "well, at least I've got pretty pictures to look at while I'm reading this horrible story"

It does sound like he's saying the story is bad. I would agree with that, Killing Joke's not my favourite book either, but making a remark like that on a promotional clip for the movie seems like an odd thing to do.

>>81395003
>reshooting an entire movie when it's supposed to come out in August
Your aware how stupid that sounds right?

>>81394378
Cant wait to hear Marks Jokers voice before becoming the Joker.

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>>81405444

>>81396888
Calm the fuck down, he meant that we had decades of her character appearing in the comics prior to this. Which is also why it makes sense to establish her character before that in this version.

>>81395097
No, Ayer said it was the "darkest film yet" and it was "so gritty" they "needed on set therapists"

No they're back-pedalling hard. It's embarrassing.

>>81395720
He did, the rape is just popular headcanon just like the idea that Bats kills Joker at the end.

>>81405444
Are you deranged? He meant that what Joker did was horrible.

>>81405444
I thought he meant that in comics if the art is nice a terrible story can be midly enjoyable,

>>81405444
I guess it can either be interpreted as "the story is bad" or as "the story is graphic and visceral".

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Can't wait

>>81402404
Mr Freeze.

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>>81399254
God damnit, what is the point of doing The Killing Joke if it's going to look like that.

This always happens with Bruce Timm related projects..

>>81401314
Have you ever watched BTAS? The art style here isn't the same, it's much blander.

>>81402404
>DOTF, Endgame, Mr. Freeze and Superheavy
>good stories

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>>81405444
There is no chance whatsoever that he was trying to say the story was bad.

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>>81394378
The animation is not even close to "son of batman", "batman under the red hood" or "the return of the joker" (already 16 years old), and those three aren't the best animations in the world but still.
This is weirdly such a low quality of animation to have when working with such expensive voice actors with such an important batman story.

>>81402532
>Don't read much Batman do you?
Well we are on /co/ - capeshit and cartoons

So when is the Killing Joke storytime happening? will it use OG coloring or new coloring?

>>81405444
Think about it...why would they leave that in promotional footage for the film...that is based on the story

>>81405029
Which is why they said they're making a prologue with her?

Unless you're arguing that the prologue won't give us enough time. I'm not really sure.

>>81405717
>new coloring
Why would you want shit when you could have steak?

>>81404771
Well, Robin's not in it, so probably a 6.

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>>81399254
HAHAHAHAHA holy shit that looks fucking awful. I knew they'd ruin it. Are you fucks done talking about DC cartoons as if they aren't shit yet? You'd have to have the brain of a small child to enjoy watching any shit they release (just like how you were a small child when you watched BTAS). Brand recognition ain't getting me to watch this trash. Fuck it.

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>>81395990
No, he wouldn't. He wants Batman to make love to him

>>81405328
>>81403984
The art looks plastic, like it was sculpted from clay and just painted over. This is mostly due to the odd coloring, where 90% of the shadows are soft.

I wish they wouldn't. If you can't put effort into the pinnacle Batman (Joker) story then just give up.

>>81406033
The DVD/Blu-Ray will still be sold in truck-fulls, some of them to the very people in this thread who are complaining, even after they torrented it.

>>81396690
The one on the right looks like a purple kekleon drawing.

>>81406033
This.

I would've given this to fucking Richard Williams, or the next best thing like his students or whatever Russian animators that did the Shakespeare Animated Tals are available, not fucking Korea.

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>>81394378
>dat Mark Hamill and Kevin Conroy

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Leak when?

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>>81406399
Holy Shit

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>Oh, don't tell me you're gonna fall asleep before we finish? You have gotten old, haven't you?

What did Joker mean by this?

>>81401242
You're not wrong, DiMaggio was pretty good, Hamill is still much better.

>>81399254
DROPPED
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>>81406644
Just look at how good this shit looks.
>>81399254 What the fuck happened?

>horrible artstyle
>fucking Batgirl prologue shoehorned in it

FUCKING DROPPED

>>81406729
DKR doesn't look that good all the time either.

>>81406644
Batman has trouble keeping it up because he's getting old

>>81399254
Looks like some kind of tumblr redraw.

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>not the original coloring

linework looks fucking awful.
Looks as bad as Batman/Superman Public Enemies.

>>81398517
>I'm just pretending to be retarded

>>81397992
Here's one with Superman

http://youtu.be/qW65xwXbB9Y

>All the time they're spending on talking about how "shocking" and "touchy" the original Killing Joke's subject matter is

It's going to be censored to appeal to SJWs

>>81399254
give'em a freekin break.

>>81407113
Timm literally said that while shocking at the time, they could probably get away with a PG-13 rating these days, I didn't get that impression at all.

My only fear in regards to appeasing the critics of the story is that they change the ending to make Barbara more proactive.

>>81407109
Shit, Supes sounds like his Red Son incarnation.

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>>81407157
Eh, all they have to do is include this bit from Ostrander's epilogue.

>>81407109
Russian Man of Murder, also known as Russian Man.

>>81407109
What a tool

>>81407312
Saved.

I remember this from scans_daily but could never track it down.

>>81407312
No. This isn't about Barbara. I don't give a shit about her.

>>81407312
Fourth panel is where they started to lose me, but the sixth is where I wanted to bitchslap the writer.

>>81400126
>and stated that he doesn't think it's a very good book.

And this is supposed to nullify others' personal opinions on the book?

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>>81407367
It's true to Barbara's character though. She's not especially nice and easily exasperated by the behavior of others.

>>81407367
I mean, it's not unreasonable for her to feel that way, but it was also her fault to take up the Batgirl mantle. Not much anyone could've done about her association with her dad and her dad's with Batman, though.

>>81407416
My problem is that she's wanting more attention than she's getting. She feels unimportant, and vestigial? Okay, I can dig that, because that's what she was used as by Joker. Then the final panel seems more like a whiny teenager turning everything into a thing that somehow is out to shame, hurt, or ridicule them. They page was doing nicely until that final part.

>>81407367
tumblr. pls go

>>81407480
Well she's in the anger phase of the stages of grief and was intentionally trying to make Batman feel bad.

>>81407312
>why doesn't the world revolve around me?

Yep, that's a woman alright

I'm actually looking forward to the Batgirl prologue.

Really glad they went with a take on her classic black/yellow outfit and didn't go with the terrible Burnside one.

>>81407550
Seems like displaced anger, since it technically isn't Batman's fault what happened to her. I say technically because of the old cliche "If Batman killed Joker etc."

>>81407480
I don't mind it because I never liked the ending anyway.

Bruce would beat the Joker close to death after what he did to Barbara and Jim, not offer to rehabilitate him.

>>81407636
Jim made him promise to do it by the book.

>>81407680
Police brutality is by the book in Amerikkka

>>81407416
Which comic is this from?

>>81407813
Cassgirl #54

>>81407863
>Babsgirl
>Cassgirl
>Stephgir
l
>New 52
>Edgegirl
>Batslut

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>>81407926
Sounds about right.
She did apologize for it later in the issue but Cass wasn't going let her off the hook so easily.

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>>81394378
Wow they took the beautiful artwork of the Killing Joke and made it into generic simplistic DC animated movie #320385 I definitely didn't see that coming. Yet i'm sure people who have never read it will praise how accurate and and great this movie is when it's really just a direct remake that's worse in every way.

>Hamill still has the laugh
My nigga
They said it right in the piece though, the voice is so uncanny and unexpected, who would have thought that little Luke Skywalker could sound like THAT

>>81399254
DC has done this with every single animated adaptation and you stupid fucks were all 100% fine with it even when it was directly compared. Now somehow this is different?

Literally every single one, if you think this is bad and you defend the following you're a dumbass
>New Frontier
>Flashpoint Paradox
>Under the Red Hood
>Justice League War
>The Dark Knight Returns
>All-Star Superman
>Justice League Doom

Fuck off, they are all shit. I'm not specifically talking to you, just the massive amount of replies your post is getting shitting on the art style when if you have even seen one other DC animated movie you knew for an absolute fact this would happen and its no different.

It looks really appalling.

>>81406510
Derp

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>>81406644
>It's finally here, isn't it? The moment we've both dreamed about.
>Not quite how I imagined it, but we can still end on a high note.
>Go ahead, say this has never happened to you before.
>>Shut up.
>Make me. Come on, finish me.
What do YOU think he meant by that, anon?

>>81408386
You haven't played Arkham games have you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Frn7mWULDU

>Ray Wise as Gordon

B A S E D
A
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E
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>>81409311
I know right? I love that guy.

>>81396817
The characters also would have looked like puppets whenever they'd move.

>>81409311

It's funny, I see him on The Fresh Off The Boat every now and then and now he's Gordon.

I probably won't see him the same again.

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>the audio going mute and this appearing every 15 seconds
What does it mean?