Why do people pretend the first season of this was not only bad,

>>81381327
I never finished the whole series, but I remember liking AF way better than the original.

>>81381327
Care you explain why you think like that OP?

>>81381327
I did like that Ben had matured a lot from the original series. Unfortunately that took away a lot of the charm he had and made him boring as fuck. Omniverse wasn't perfect but it was a lot more entertaining than AF.

>>81381396
Well, whenever discussion on post-original Ben 10 starts, I see people dissing AF and UA as being worthless, and putting Omniverse somewhere in the middle ground (which I agree with, it was decent). But the Highbreed arc of Alien Force was an amazing story (ESPECIALLY when you compare it to the juvenile nature of its predecessor) and I never see anyone particularly focus on it.

>>81381422
Depends on your point of view. It's definitely a far different series from the original and they tried making all these characters more mature and human while putting them in a really bizarre set of situations.
Ironically enough, the time Ben DOES get more silly (starting from AF Season 2) is when the show starts plummeting down in quality.

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>>81381327
Maybe. The series was trying to do something newer and smarter and didn't have anything stopping it with the exception of selling action figures. I do however believe that the characters were their purest and most focused in that first season.

Later episodes spread the characters a bit too thin. Although this guy (pic related) was by far my favorite personality.

"Let me tell ya somethin', guy!"

>>81381327
dude i dunno, /co/ has a weird boner for stupid terrible immature shit. it's pretty clear that the mature era of ben 10 is the only watchable bits
flawed yes, but the only thing that wasnt a retarded baby-ass toon, and actually resembled a good serious action show, with a ton of great scifi influences.

but we cant talk about that on /co/. nor thundercats, young justice, or any other good serious shows that arent DCAU.

>>81382774
i... didn't MIND him.. but i felt like he didnt fit the show
the episode where he fights the alien rednecks felt like i was watching something else.

>>81383254
>with a ton of great scifi influences.

Yeah. Humanity being able to breed with people literally made of flaming rocks is such good sci-fi.

>>81384024
no that part was fantasy. and it was pretty weird but it had good results
i was talking more about the half-life and doctor who feel

>>81382774
Best alien.

Based alien.

I would whatch a show just with this nigga.