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Why is there so little love for Steven from the fans and in the fandom? It just feels like not a lot of people take him very seriously, which makes me pretty sad.

What do you think the show could do to make people take Steven seriously, and not just laugh him off and not consider him as a Crystal Gem?
I'd like to see him growing up, become more mature, and get much better control over his powers.
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The audience you see on the internet aren't the kids who watch the show. This internet fanbase is 50% waifufags and 50% Cumblr nerds. Also because Steven is a white male.
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>>81370400
He's annoying and I can't drink his menstrual blood.
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>>81370527
He's been getting much better recently, though.
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Yup. Glad someone else thinks so. 99% of fanart throughout the show's run has consisted of Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl, without including Steven. It may just be an unconscious thing, but it annoys me how little attention is payed to the actual main character.
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>>81370621
Not in my opinion.
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>>81370481
There's a minority.
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>>81371238
I respect your opinion.
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>>81370400
The fanbase for this show is tumblr girls who want lesbian romance and straight guys who also want lesbian romance.

The only people who have interest in Steven are straight-shota lovers, but only so they can self-insert, and shota lovers think Steven is still too fat.
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>>81371233
Well they are all main characters, but I do get sad when people make art of them and not include Steven, or when they say that they've made art of the Crystal Gems and then the art doesn't have Steven, or when in any way it's implied that Steven isn't a Crystal Gem, because Steven spent all of Season 1 trying to become a Crystal Gem and proving that he was worthy of becoming one, with him finally being recognised as a Crystal Gem in Season 2.
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>>81370400
>I'd like to see him growing up, become more mature, and get much better control over his powers.
Good thing that's literally the whole point of the show then
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>>81371505
Fair point, but I think it's going a bit slow. Then again maybe it's just because Season 1 was lengthened, and we're actually supposed to be in Season 4.
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There's probably more art of Yellow and Blue Pearl than Steven
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>>81371574
It has to go slow. He's the main character, the story begins and ends with his development. He's come REALLY far though.
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>>81371588
Rephrase that to "There's probably more recent art of Yellow and Blue Pearl than recent art of Steven" and I'd agree with you.
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>>81370400
>>81370481
Steven would have lots more fans if he was a thin white male with nice hair and actually looked like a teenager

Everybody loves Steven, but he's a pudgy little boy that nobody wants to fuck. He's not aesthetic enough for lots of fanart.
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>>81371698
He's been getting thinner recently.
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>>81371698
Even in 2D, personality is not enough to be liked
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>>81371743
He'll still be chubby though. It's his signature look.
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>>81371698
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>>81371744
Even in 2d, (most) people don't want to fuck a kid that looks 8 years old

>>81371743
Not significantly. He's still generally the shape of a dwarf
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>>81371787
Maybe only a little, but considering how much he runs around and the amount of pressure he has, he's very probably going to loose more weight soon.
>>81371851
He's 14 years old, and haven't aged physically since he was 8.
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>>81371233
You're not exactly a hot girl, Steven
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>>81371885
If this version of Steven grew a beard, he would look like Jontron.
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>>81372107
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>>81370400
because his penis gets in the way
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>>81372120
I've heard a lot of people say that about the way this artist (ff) draws Steven, and I'm not sure if I agree.
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>>81371885
Why does he look like prebubescent Jontron?
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>>81372222
>quads
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Because he is a boy and the fanbase is either femnazi tumblr shippers obessed with "much lesbian representations" or its the degenerates of /trash/ obsessing over the yuri lewds/futa.
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>>81370400
Most people I know say that Steven is the best character. His growth as a character and realization of the world around him is one of the few things the show takes its time with, which unlike a lot of the drama, makes his characterization feel like a gradual and natural progression.
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>>81372107
If he was, he wouldn't be talking to you, anon.
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>>81370400
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>>81372740
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>>81371382
>Well they are all main characters, but I do get sad when people make art of them and not include Steven,
>implying you have any right to tell others whether art is good or bad
I mean, you're not wrong, but some people would consider your speech a crime.
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>>81373458
I'm not saying that their art is good or bad because they exclude Steven, I just get disappointed when they do. It just feels like there's always a big gap in art with Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl only. Maybe it's just a bias (because Steven is my favourite character, and in my opinion the best Gem).
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>>81372740
STEVEN
WHY ARE YOU
SUCH
A BUTTFACE
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>>81370400
Anon, do you have a brother? A little brother that would always grab stuff from your room without permision and smear dirt on everything he touches becouse he never washes his fucking shitty hands? That sometimes would break some of your stuff and put it back to where it was and hope you didn't notice it? That no matter how obnoxious or loud or stupid he would act, no matter what he did or said, he will always get away with it clean, a slap in the wrist tops?

That's steven.The fact that he's written as a saint that "knows what's best" makes it even worse.

And if you're wondering, yes, i was proyecting, fuck my little brother.
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>>81370400
Steven is okay, but the thing is, he's -too- okay.
He doesn't need us fans, he's fine.

Pearl has fans because she's all broken and insecure and people relate to that.
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My problem with Steven is that he's very idealized. The show goes out of its way to establish that the other three characters are all very flawed individuals, while Steven's biggest flaw is that he's mildly annoying sometimes. Even his naievity is played up as a positive most of the time.
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>>81375155
>Garnets less okay than Steven
Did you not see Joy Ride?
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>>81375314
I know he has issues, but he deals with them so well.

He hasn't got thousands of years of shit pent up.
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>>81375285
He's cool and loving but that's it. That's the point. It's showing that despite never being as strong as the other Gems, his outlook will always make him a uniquely powerful gem. His human side actually gives him an edge.
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>>81375155
Pearl is every teen lesbian who is in love with her straight friend.
Pearl is me when I was 16
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>>81375378
Did you like the tall ones too?
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>>81375353
He's bottling up his emotions too and nothing's really resolved. He's distressed. I guess fans more relate to people who hurt others because they have problems. Tumblr is full immature bad people, go figure.
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>>81375378
LONDON
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>>81371885
If this show looked like this I'd probably watch it
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>>81372120
>Steven Echs his way to power.
Admit it, you'd love it like the slut you are if they did a time skip and Jon was brought in to do the voice.
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>>81375405
tall and chubby
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>>81375101
As someone who has a little brother that was a complete dick, Steven has one thing that 99% of little brothers don't have going for them.

His heart is entirely in the right place, maybe its just because I'm early in the series but he seems like a mildly alright kid.

And I love the way his father is shown to obviously be suffering from the death of his wife, but he's still a good father figure for Steven, not an asshole and basically just needs a break to get back on his feet.
Its a nice, healthy, complex male character rather than bumbling sitcom dad.
Which is nice.
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>>81375523
Despite loving if jon became a VA there are two reasons why it wouldn't happen
1. We've already seen and heard adult Steven
2. Jon wouldn't be able to show up as often just like Nicki and Sinbad who we haven't seen in a while
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>>81375416
ENGLAND
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>>81375588
That's quite rare really.

Shortstacks are semi-common at least, but tall deep-voiced curvy girls are few and far between.
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Because Steven is just a catalyst for the other characters to play off of and develop as characters.

We know Stevens story and we know Stevens character for the most part. The show really is about the other gems and their place with Steven .
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>>81375523
Oh my god that would be the best thing ever. I am not even kidding. If they told me that they cancelled Steven Universe just to do this and I'd have to wait a year for it I would say "fuck yes".
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>>81370400
He's my sonfu
>>81375615
The older Stevens were made from Steven's mind. It's how he imagined himself as a adult with responsibilities. No one knows what Steven will look like when he grows up naturally.
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>>81375101
I have a twin brother who's three minutes older than me. We get into arguments often and we have very different tastes, but I still care about him. Also no, not at all, and I don't believe that Steven is that little brother you're describing.
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>>81375523
Oh fuck yes, Jon Jafari voicing adult Steven would be perfect.
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>>81370400
I dont know what youre on about, anon, almost everyone agrees that stevens character growth has been very well done.

It all started out with this annoying fuckin kid that would just mess up everything he touches, much like real kids, but has since moved on to a more trusted and situation aware member of the team.

Hes character growth probably wont be complete till the series finale, but mark my fuckin words, this little shit is turning into Captain America.
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>>81371743
It's just storyboarder differences, the model sheet hasn't changed.
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>>81375101
omg are you like 15 lol wtf.
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>>81371744
this
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>>81376765
Are you sure? Because I haven't seen any of the storyboarders drawing him as fat as he used to be at the start of the show.
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Do you really want a world where Steven is waifu?
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>>81378918
He already is my waifu.
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He's not only an annoying character but he has an annoying voice. His forced laugh really grates on my ears
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>>81378768
Completely sure. I think you're just focusing on Lauren Zuke's stuff, specifically the Barn Mates preview.
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>>81379103
That's mostly because the VA is 18 and has to do a voice of a late bloomer who's just entered puberty.
>>81379166
Joe and Jeff draw him pretty thin, not sure about Lamar and whoever he's paired with, or with Sugar.
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>>81379008
The parts of the fandom that actually do like Steven are so fucking weird.
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>>81379208
>That's mostly because the VA is 18 and has to do a voice of a late bloomer who's just entered puberty.
There being a reason for it doesn't stop it from being annoying to listen to
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>>81376765

I'm not sure that the official model sheet's changed, but he's been consistently drawn thinner lately. In fact it's kind of weird going back to the first few episodes and seeing just how explicitly fat he was. Pic highly related.

SU loves using anime themes here and there, and it's a common theme in anime for the character to slowly age as the show goes on. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this was intentional.
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>>81379166
Hes definitely slimmer. Compare frybo steven to message received steven, who are drawn by the same boarders.
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>>81379247
Dolores Umbridge paradox I guess?
Shitposting aside, I do ove Steven, and he's my favourite Gem. I can't wait to see his future development.
>>81379272
Well, no, but hopefully they age Steven up so the VA won't have to force the voice anymore.
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>steven presses play on a boombox
>takes lion by the front paws and starts dancing as a joke
>suddenly his gem and lions's eyes and mane start glowing
>Steven and Pink Diamond fuse into Tiger Millionaire
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>>81379376
>I do ov Steven
*I do love Steven
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>>81370400
His voice is kinda grating.
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>>81379299

To expand on that, it's actually pretty likely that Steven's early obsession with food was there to highlight that he was fat, so that it would become apparent to the view later that Steven was getting thinner. I don't think he's talked about food like he did early on in a long time, if at all.
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>>81379208
>>81379305
>>81379299
I think it's more that they're just making him cuter by giving him a proportionally bigger head than they used to, rather than him canonically getting slimmer; style progression and what not.

The characters look completely different from scene to scene and episode to episode anyways, so you could really make any crack theory based on stylistic differences (the cast are actually sneople in Hellen's episodes, Garnet's thighs grow twice as big in Paul's episodes). Until it's acknowledged in canon I think people just don't like the fact that Steven is chubby.
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>>81379299
>that pic
lol he's not even thinner his crotch just shot higher up his body
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>>81379299
In Steven's Birthday they specifically showed that his appearance hasn't changed in six years
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Its not that he's getting thinner, its just that Zuke draws him with less round lines than everyone else. Lamar does it as well.
He's still a round qt3.14 whenever Joe and Jeff draw him.
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>>81373611
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>>81370400
Because he's a fucboi
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>>81380013
He looks as thin as zuke draws him here.
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>>81379948
That he hasn't gotten older not that he hasn't thinned
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