>In the middle of a Civil war >Gets time to quip htt

>>81197711
Jesus christ, Renner is one ugly fucker.

>>81197711
Why does /co/ get so triggered by quips in comic book movies when quips are one of the defining traits of classic comic books? Characters literally always had snappy one-liners in comic books back in the day.

I thought X Men Apocalypse was coming before this one

>DC: Just fuck my shit up
>Marvel: Just quip my shit up

Either way, you lose!

>best friends not bantering

Get out more.

>>81197956
This is why I like X-Men

fits their character

both clint and natasha don't really give a fuck about the pissing match between stark and steve

also, it's rumored that widow is a double/triple agent for one of the sides so clint might be in on it

>>81197986
>X-Men: Just mix them both and fuck my shit up

>>81197986
>Just fuck my CONTINUITY up

>>81197711
Hawkeye is one of those that should.

>>81197711
>Hawkeye
>expecting him not to quip
>when that's his entire character

>>81197879
It's not even just comic books that have snappy one liners. Action movies in general love them.

>>81197711
Thats not even a quip, what the hell do people think "quip" means exactly?

If fucking Iron Man and Captain America started joking that would be wrong but it makes sense for them two, don't be an idiot or contrarian looking to complain.

Hawkguy and Spidey are the two people who are totally okay to joke around in the situation they're in

>>81197879

It's not even all of /co/. It's just this small subset of DC fans who are SUPER insecure about the fact that their comics aren't selling well and their movies are bombing, so they have to find some way in their head to justify why it is like that.

Okay someone tell me why it's okay marvel to have quips in their fight scenes?

>>81197711
Why is Hawkeye even there

>>81198879
They don't pretend they're making a drama

>>81198879

Because people like to have humor in their action movies.

>>81197711
DUDE FRIENDSHIP LMAO

MY FRIENDS ARE DYING BUT WE GOTTA HAVE FUN

>>81197711
I can't understand what he says. Help.

>>81199085
Nobody is dying yet.

>>81198879
Because they're superheroes with superpowers. If you don't think that's the bombest shit then I can't help you my friend.

I don't see why there needs to be such a terrible drama cloud over superhero movies. Let them do their thing so we are impressed and make a story where they struggle and overcome and do it well. That's really all we want. At least, for me that is.

>>81199130
I couldn't tell at first either, but he says "Depends on how hard you hit me."

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>>81199453
>>81198879
>>81197879

It's not about quips themselves, it's how they're done.

They didn't have a Spider-Man to relegate all te quipping to one character who it fit when they started their universe, and Whedon writes everyone the same way - so Avengers happened, and he wrote everyone as constantly spitting off shitty, no-effort one liners that weren't that funny. The films before Avengers had them sparingly, but Avengers massive success drove it further into the films that carried onward.

This continued into the next few movies - for every funny joke like Thor putting his hammer on a coat rack, or "I loved you in A Christmas Story", there were three hundred shitty ones like the dance off or anything that Darcy says.

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>>81199587
>there were three hundred shitty ones like the dance off

>People are unironically still bitching about the dance off

>>81198956
>>81199062
>>81199453

So why don't these scene have quips in them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXPOl6EjbWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTqa-NEwUbs


Is it because having actual tension and some serious scenes aren't allowed in modern comic book movies?

>>81199853
>actual tension
>serious scenes
There's your problem.
Marvel has those. DC doesn't

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>>81199587

>missing the entire point about the dance-off scene in GotG

>complaining about a visual gag like Thor using the coat rack for his hammer

Holy shit go jump in a lake of acid.

>>81199853

>Tension
>In Iron Man
>Against some guys with guns

You made a good point though, and I agree.

>>81197711
Just let yourself die man.

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>>81197879
>Why does /co/ get so triggered
Blame /tv/. Always blame /tv/.

>Hawkeye & Black Widow get time to have a 1 on 1 fight in the middle of all those other heroes when it would literally take two seconds for War Machine, Iron Man, Vision or Wanda to btfo them away from pretty much any distance.

>>81199944
>Civil War fight where supposed friends who fought together for years and are now fighting bitterly against each other
>They instead just quip at each other
>Serious

>>81199985
Reread that post, he was actually complementing the coat rack gag

>>81200041
I just wish we had a balance like the X-men movies, fun but serious at the same time.

>>81198026
>Just fuck my time up

>>81200284
>I just wish we had a balance like the X-men movies, fun but serious at the same time.
Does Deadpool count as an X-Men movie?

>>81200357
Deadpool is more of it's own thing

>>81198879
Because that's the way the character's are in the source material.

In a movie based on super hero comic books the characters are expected to act like they do in said super hero comic books.

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>>81198026
But that's the best thing about these movies. It's the only reason why they feel at least a little bit like the comics now.

>>81199985

>Misreading a post and actually getting assblasted over it

Get some reading comprehension, you pussy

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>>81197711
Quiping is hawkeyes super power, but god Scarlett Johansson is bad.

>>81197879
Because /co/ has the idea that comic books are serious business.

>>81198843
I thought the comics were actually doing better than marvel's, they were just shitting the bed in the movies department

>>81198008
If they don't care then they should sit this conflict out.

>>81197956
>"I'm with your son."
>"I thought so. Because of the cape."

I'm more surprised people aren't tearing this apart. It's the only joke in the movie and it's so poorly placed. Martha was just kidnapped and nearly set on fire, not to mention she was literally in the middle of an explosion.

>>81200890
If you're talking sales I'm pretty sure Marvel reigns supreme there.

>>81197711
Won't running away make eveything worse for Buckey?

>>81198026
Just like the comic books then

>>81201009

Because of Star Wars, but it isn't by much

C-C-COMIC BOOK M-MOVIES SHOULD BE S-SUPER SERIOUS GUYS

>>81198843
>they have to find some way in their head to justify why it is like that.
What if it is all one giant strategy by Time Warner, they are driving their companies into the dirt on purpose just to see how much, Disney, Fox and Apple are willing to pay for shit. Hell it all makes sense, hiring a bland actress for Jupiter ascending, hiring a hack to direct their superman movie. Making their very successful video game branch turn out nothing but Lego games.

>>81199587
I want to agree with the point you're trying to make because there ARE moments in some of the Marvel flicks where a joke ruins a tense moment or a villain is robbed of any screen presence...but then you had to go and be an autist about the dance-off.

>>81197711
>In the middle of a war
>Characters known for using deadly weapons, guns and deadly force overall just kick and punch like in He-Man cartoons
This is a "war" for Marvelcucks

>>81201120
Comic books are for children and teens

Comic book movies are for the general population

It makes sense to retool comic book movies for the general population, there's a reason why comic books movie are more popular than comic books

>>81197711
>implying quipping doesn't perfectly fit Kyle "She's a slut" Renner

>>81197879
There's this thing called tension, and it doesn't mix well with quips.

>>81201382
They've already confirmed this is more of a "Family dispute". Some of them are getting angry and feeling betrayed, but they're definitely going to be less lethal than they normally would be. Or at least Hawkeye is. I can't answer for Scarlet Witch in that Vision scene Bucky, who seems to be trying to assassinate Stark.

>>81201544
You fuckers act like Marvel movies are literally nothing but nonstop jokefests yet you completely forget movies like Guardians of the Galaxy having serious, dramatic moments uninterrupted by jokes. The whole movie begins with a kid's mom dying of cancer for fuck's sake.

>>81201481
Are Based Russos finally going to fix Hawkeye? I never felt he got enough good quips in Whedon's movies, ironically, even though he's more associated with them, and Whedon gave quips to everyone else.

>>81201544
That's part of the point. If you have nothing but unrelieved tension throughout a movie, the audience will come out of the movie tense. Even Shakespeare used comic relief to alleviate his tragedies in strategic points. It's a thing writers do.

>>81199537
Thanks.

>>81201481
Kyle?

>>81201150

>Autist

Nigga that joke came weak styles

I get why it was in the movie, it wasn't funny. It didn't ruin the fucking movie for me, I thought the whole thing was okay, it was just one joke that fell flat in a movie full of jokes that tried too hard.

I don't care about jokes in tense moments, I like when characters that are supposed to be funny throw quips/insults at the badguy no matter how dire the situation is.

>>81200955
There is so much other shit for /co/ to complain about first, they'll get there.

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>>81199587
I 100% agree with what you're saying, but I think you missed the point of the dance-off completely.

>>81197711
How are Tony's sunglasses able to stop a pointblank bullet?

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>>81197711
>Straight as an arrow, BABY!

>>81201922
BOYS

>>81201868
The dance-off is barely even a joke, it was Star-Lord distracting Ronan in a way that made sense to his character up until that point. It wasn't like everybody just started spontaneously dancing for no reason.

>>81199853
Holy shit I forgot how much I loved Winter Soldier.

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>>81198145
Dunno.

>>81197711
Being a smug asshole is Clint's kinda thing.

>>81197711
>it's a movie

>>81197711
ARROW IN THE QUIVER
COMEBACK IN THE QUIPPER!

>>81201942

He has a mini iron man glove which quickly covers his hand and he covers the muzzle with his armor covered hand.

>>81200284
For starters you haven't seen the film, to my knowledge the quippy parts are
>Underoos!
>Depends on how hard you hit me

But also the point to this is that they don't want to fight it's just 2 leaders protecting what they choose to believe.

The only people out for blood in this are probably Tony, Panther, Cap and Bucky. Even Cap is a stretch, he's just on the defensive protecting his friend. Widow is probably a double agent anyway.

>>81201707
So why aren't the movies called a comedy?

>/co/ actually defending quips

fuck you all
this shit will never end or be toned down thanks to you retards eating it all up and asking for more
FUCK
YOU
ALL

>>81197986
Hadn't seen any of the live action x men in ages and still hadn't seen days of future past.
Was pleasantly surprised and it made me kind of sad that I won't see much more of the early 2000s xmen.

>>81202180
Go watch your 8-hour-long movie where Batman and Superman fight for ten minutes again.

>>81202148
The impact of the bullet at that close of a range should have some kind of effect on him though, right? Is his new armor made out of Vibranium?

>>81202180

grow up

>>81202180

It's called having FUN

We don't need edgy movies BvS

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>>81202180
>the first actually jokey moment we've seen so far
>outrage

Chill, lad.

>>81202163
Because it takes more than a few comedic parts to make something wholly a comedy.

>>81202320
But all the parts of a comic book movie are comedic

>>81202163
Terminator wasn't a Comedy and that had a lot of jokes. People like a laugh every now and then.

>>81202271

Probably.

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Holy shit, people really are tired of things being light when the world is so shitty huh?

>>81202372

What?

Maybe they quip to help deal with the fear of the dangerous situations they're constantly in?

>>81199853
Would've like it if the tank did a bit more damage to him and wasn't quite as easy to just blast apart.

I'm okay with it because it doesn't really seem like some of these players are taking it personally with the exception of Cap and Tony. What it is seems to be is both sides just trying to keep the other at bay until it turns out Winter Soldier (and I guess the antagonist whoever it is) fucks things up.

>>81202180
>Can't wake up
can you?

>>81202466
You don't understand?

Do you want me to quip it out for you? Would that make easier for you to understand?

>>81202465
>>81202465
Not everyone. Just edgy Nolanites who think that comics published by DC after the year 2005 are the benchmark for the medium.

>>81197879
these are bad quips hamfisted into movies so that they get a cheap laugh so they forget that the plot is mediocre


/tv/ hates it as well

>>81202710
Some of them also read some 90's stuff.

>>81200955
thats one out of 2 quips in the entire movie

marvel has that many in just 3 minutes

>>81202521
That's too far-fetched concept for a basic /co/-mongoloid who still eats mom's spaghetti and has't had a thing to worry in his life.

>>81202729
>using /tv/ as a benchmark for wether or not something is good

Critical failure

>>81201412
>Comic books are for children and teens
And serious crime fiction about constant whore murders are for serious adults, thank you very much.

>>81199587
>They didn't have a Spider-Man to relegate all te quipping to one character who it fit when they started their universe
So just like cape comics then.

>no-effort one liners that weren't that funny
So just like cape comics then.

>>81200284
>a balance like the X-men movies, fun but serious at the same time.
So really not fun at all? The only reason the X-Men movies don't seem completely grim is because somehow people manage to make even darker comicbook movies.

>>81202729
>/tv/ hates it as well

If you think /tv/ has good judgment about anything then you should just go back there.

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>>81202180
I like quips and I'm not going to stop liking them just because it makes easily triggered autists from /tv/ mad. In fact, it just makes me enjoy them more because I get the satisfaction of knowing that for every bit of laughter and enjoyment I get out of them, someone somewhere is foaming at the mouth in rage tenfold.

>>81197711
Maybe it;s not the best place to make this connection, but I remember when Zizek said that best jokes about rape where made during Jugoslavian War by traumatised women as a form of dealing with pain. Read about soldiers in WWII that where commanded to kill bunch of civilians (Germans or Russian). They were "quipy" as hell.

>>81202729
They're not hamfisted when you take into consideration the genre of the film you're watching. /tv/ knows nothing about the capes.

Comic book superheroes quip. They've been doing it since they became a thing.

>>81203063
Yeah, it's a fairly well-documented phenomenon that a lot of people deal with trauma and intense situations with humor. But autists from /tv/ and /co/ can't stand seeing someone else being charming or funny, especially in their SUPER SERIOUS CAPE MOVIE.

>>81197879
>emotional and serious upto that point
>random fucking quip
>why don't people like this?
Because it's a fucking tone killer and is completely out of place with the rest of the trailer.

This going to be AoU all over again isn't it?
>trailer are all dark and serious
>movie has tone killing quips every 10 fucking seconds
Why do people keep falling for Marvels shit?

>>81202180
>WHY AREN'T MY CHILDRENS MOVIES ABOUT MEN IN BRIGHTLY COLOURED TIGHTS MORE GRITTY AND SERIOUS!?

Anon pls.

>>81203231
It's a comic book movie

What the fuck do you expect

>>81203231
>Can't deal with two separate tones at two separate points in a movie.
Are you a literal child, or was your emotional growth seriously stunted?

>>81203231
You know that's an issue I don't have: quips don't ruin tension for me.
Not that there's much tension in superhero stories to begin with, we all know how it ends anyway.

>>81199587
>there were three hundred shitty ones like the dance off

Ok, now we know that you've either didn't see GotG or you're a bad "AI". Lets call you fagI or iFag.

An iFag can see this clip a hundred times and still don't get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ohTJp3PAA

>I'm distracting you

I'm literally autistic and I got it immedieatly.

>>81200168
At least /tv/ is able to understand Snyder's a fucking hack and BvS was horrible.

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>>81202729
Considering the current state of /tv/ I really don't know what to think of your comment. If Widow and Hawkeye's exchange went more along the lines of
>you're big guy
>for you
You'd probably swim in your jizz right now, wouldn't you? Jesus Christ, man, get a fucking grip.

>>81203283
>two separate points in a movie
It's the scene where they're all fighting each other, friend against friend, brother against brother
>quip
Why should we take anything in this movie seriously again?

>>81203358
That's probably because you're a normal person.

>/co/ loves quips but hates Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Avengers: Age of Ultron

Makes zero sense

>>81203255
Doesn't you have some important adult stuff to watch? Like Law & Order: Special Pedo Scare Unit.

>>81203471
>Why should we take anything in this movie seriously again?
Who says you should. If you take blockbuster action movies featuring superheroes seriously, it's your own damn fault to begin with.

>>81203475
Nah that can't be it.

>>81203135
>/tv/ knows nothing about the capes.

To be fair they know nothing about films either.

It's not like half the action films from the 80's and 90's that are universally praised have quips in them. I mean Arnold Schwarzenegger utterly ruined Commando with his quips. And John Mclane ruined Die Hard by making smart one liners after killing terrorists. How dare quips ruin my super serious Demolition Man.

I don't think /tv/ will be truly happy till marvel make a film about Black Widow being raped on a pinball machine, or Tony and Cap are sexually assaulted by rednecks whilst on a canooing trip.

>>81203521
I haven't watched ASM2 but I hated Garfield's voice during the quips in ASM1, just felt unnatural.
I liked AoU.

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>>81203437
>take my hand
Gets me every time.

>>81203678
Can you imagine their reaction if a new movie came out and the hero's catchphrase was "yippie-kay yay motherfucker"?

>>81203521
You do understand that quips don't decide about overall movie quality, right?

Spiderman and Hawkeye SHOULD be throwing out quips fairly often. The other characters should do it just not as much.

It's a comic book movie jesus christ not everything has to be >le edgy deconstruction of the genre that's been done better in comic book form a million times

>>81203786
You're actually defending all the quips in AoU?
Seriously?

>>81203171
>autists from /tv/ and /co/
They have never dealt with said trauma and intense situations. You are talking about a group that probably pisses themselves in fear at the merest hint of interpersonal conflict.

>>81203840
I think you misunderstood his post completely.

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Are you hyped for the Panther?

>>81203840
Or maybe he's just saying that it's possible to like a well-timed quip and still to hate a full-blown quip-fest.

>>81203903
Nothing can get me more hyped than Panther and Spidey in the same movie together.

>>81203883
>>81203883
No, I understood it just fine

He's basically saying the movie being stuffed to the brim with quips did not have a negative impact on AoU

>>81203678
>To be fair they know nothing about films either.
I think that we should start serious threads about black and white films on /tv/. First we go easy with Charlie Chaplin and the Marx Brothers. Then we turn up the heat with Feuillade. Then we finish them off with Last year in Marienbad.

>>81204027
No he's saying you can like quips and still not like AoU because
>quips don't decide about overall movie quality
Get a clue anon.

>>81203521
There's a balance to be struck. SnyderDC films, Avengers Age of Ultron, and Amazing Spider-Man don't strike that balance. Iron Man 1 and Captain America: The Winter soldier do.

>>81203840
I'm not talking about AoU, I'm talking about that there are more important pieces that make movie, like story, acting etc. thanks to which we can decide if they are good or not. You can't say that movie is bad JUST because of quips.

>>81197711
What is every action movie ever

>>81197711
I love Quipping.

>>81203630
>Who says you should
The marketing for this movie. It's being billed as a super serious and dramatic clash of ideals.

>>81197879
It's weird, /co/ seems to have forgotten that superheroes are supposed to be about fun, and like >>81198144 pointed out, it's not even just superhero movies, action movies in general have tons of quips and one-liners.

The quipping was only really terrible in AoU. And GotG to an extent in my opinion.

When you take superhero movies way too seriously, you get shit like MoS and BvS. Just overly pretentious garbage.

>>81201150
>there ARE moments in some of the Marvel flicks where a joke ruins a tense moment or a villain is robbed of any screen presence
That's the dance off

>>81204254
Thwip thwip? More like quip quip. Am I right?

>>81204284
>trusting marketing
>ever
>especially when they tell you to take an action blockbuster seriously
You're dumber than I thought.

I mean it's not like they have incentive to lie, right?

>>81204284
Well, now the marketing is telling you to chill the fuck down.

>>81204149
I see, so quips like "LANGUAGE!" and "I can't throw up" or "CHILDREN" didn't ruin the movie one bit. Nope. They certainly didn't affect the characters at all by making them a joke.

>>81204163
>I'm not talking about AoU,
Too bad, because I was talking about AoU and ASM2

>You can't say that movie is bad JUST because of quips.
Says who?
There's nothing stopping someone from giving this as a criticism.
Or are comic book movies not allowed to be criticized?

>>81204436
>yeah, this movie had great visuals, story was breathtaking, actors gave everything, it changed the way I look at things, but there was too many qupis, 3/10

People here hate ASM2 not because of quips, this movie was fucked because of many different things. Quips were not even in top 10 why ASM2 sucked

>>81204436
>Or are comic book movies not allowed to be criticized?
It's like beating a dead horse.

>>81197879
it's the latest meme

I would blame it on whedon being a feminist more than anything

>>81199587
Jesus you people act like that scene was some out of place musical number in the member of a scifi romp. It was an idiot trying to distract someone way out of his league, what do you people want?

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>>81204436
Quips mean shitty writing. Shitty writing was probably the worst thing about Age of Ultron.

SHITTY WRITING IS NOT A THING THAT PLAGUES THE ENTIRE MCU

>>81204436
>I see, so quips like "LANGUAGE!" and "I can't throw up" or "CHILDREN" didn't ruin the movie one bit. Nope. They certainly didn't affect the characters at all by making them a joke.
That's clearly not his point.

You don't have to be willingly obtuse anon, it's not helping your case.

>>81204676
Todd you work for Marvel now?

What did Hawkeye say? I couldn't make it out

>>81204766
Todd Snyder. Master of vidyakino

>>81197711
>>In the middle of a Civil war
>>Gets time to thwip
tom holland.jpg

>>81204786
Do you bleed?

>>81204817
Probably every month.

>>81204786
Seriously? ''Depends how hard you hit me.''

>>81197879
>Why does /co/ get so triggered by quips in comic book movies when quips are one of the defining traits of classic comic books? Characters literally always had snappy one-liners in comic books back in the day.
And it was horribly cheesy back then just like it is now. It's retarded to turn EVERY character into a quip machine.

>>81204847
She can't have children so no periods

>>81204850
Couldn't make "depends". I'm tired and english is my second language, my bad

>>81204884
Russos have already said that only certain characters will be comedic in Civil War (most likely Hawkeye, Ant-Man and Spidey)

>>81204884
It's part of the appeal anon

>>81204893
Is that how it works? I seriously don't know.

>>81204897
>I'm tired
shit excuse mate, we're always tired

plus you don't need to justify yourself every time someone calls you out for something since you didn't do anything wrong

But /co/, if it makes billions it's good!

>>81205020
o-ok, I guess

>>81204327
That was the point of the villain though, he was a bridesmaid who grew too big for his shoes. Like when Loki is distracted. If that was Thanos that shit would never work. It was a move out of desperation to buy the small amount of time they need to win.

>>81203441

>>81204815
>I have a 40 hour a week job, friends who I get together with often, and a gf of 6 years
>none of that matters when my precious DC is defiled and violated
Got any proof? Wow, she's only 6 years old? Naughty

>>81205034
>if everyone likes it, it's bad

In about 5 years you're gonna look back at this edgy contrarian phase you're going through and you're gonna laugh.

>>81205213
In about 2 years everyone will forget this new quipfest.

>>81204941
Except the X-Men movies (regardless of your opinion about them) have managed to be very successful without resorting to endless quips and grade school-tier silliness.

>>81205213
Like how pop music is the pinnacle of music

>>81205294
X-men movies are overrated tbqh

Have you watched them recently? They're a drag to watch

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>>81205186
You sound exactly like some anon's 6-year-old girlfriend. You're a fucking child, senpai.

>>81205337
>(regardless of your opinion about them)

>>81205260
Better to be enjoyed and forgotten than to be vilified and remembered for folly I say.

>>81205296
Y'see, that's the thing about opinions. You can have one without having others affect it.

>>81205341
Are all Disneyfags this no-life pedo?

>>81205474
>enjoyed
>implying some people don't consume that crap to spite WB

>>81205460
But they're not sucessful

At least it's not as bad as that one scene where Tony teaches Cap to drive the Iron Man suit and some guy comes out and says "I'm just so tired of all this Civil War"

>>81205551
Sometimes people enjoy things because they...

*shocker*

...simply enjoy them.

No conspiracy there, DCfriend.

>>81205773
Who enjoys a quipfest? Not the people in this thread, that's for sure.

>>81205815
You mean a bunch of jaded faggots who discuss the same shit they enjoy every day until they hate all of it?

>>81205832
>only jaded faggots dislike le quips
*shocker*

>>81202592
This.

>>81205599
Never go full retard, anon.

>>81202592
Then why bother?

>>81200955
as
>>81201905
said, give it time, there's a whole mountain of shit to get through it will take some time before it's all bagged and tagged. RLM did cover it in their most recent Half In The Bag though.

Fuck you /co/.

I like quips.

Fight me.

>>81205891
Becaus it's fun to watch supers beating each other up?

You don't need some contrived retarded reason for good friends to be beating on each other and yelling how much they hate each other/want the other to die. The only ones who get REALLY pissed are Tony, Cap and Bucky

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>one fucking line in a teaser and everybody loses it
>And it's from Hawkeye, the one guy who it's actually really in character to be making light of situations

>>81205976
>Becaus it's fun
Holy fuck, the Perfect Argument has been used!

>>81205912
Still with the beef against DC, huh? Good boy.

>>81206019
Just let the /tv/ babies do what they want.

>>81206038
Batman vs Superman tanked its sales because it wasn't fun.

>>81205815
>the people in this thread

The handful of assblasted /tv/ retards who think that quips are foreign to the superhero concept only make up about 50% of the posts, anon.

>>81206069
>not muh quipfest
Well memed, bro.

>>81197879
Why are you apologist so tone deaf that you're completely okay with comic book films being written as straight up comedies?

>>81206038
>beef against DC
Nigga what? Flash is awesome and Arrow... used to be good. BvS is shit because it's Snyder and he is an incompetent and tone deaf director. Stop trying to make this about company wars.

>>81206117
>only assblasted /tv/ retards dislike le quips
Preach it brother!

>>81206122
I'll fucking destroy you if you talk to me like that, cunt.

>>81206136
Why don't /tv/ faggots read comic books?

>>81205954
Its /tv/ shitposters

>>81199985
>missing the entire point about the dance-off scene in GotG
Yes, he was trying to distract him but that doesn't make the whole scene and the complete undercutting of the film's main villain any better.

>>81206156
>hates a movie he won't even watch
>accuses others of company wars
Ebin.

>>81206166
Come at me, bro.

>>81206136
>straight up comedies

>Iron Man going insane and trying to kill Captain America

>>81203255
Yeah, God forbid people want a comic book film to take itself seriously. No it should all be treated as a fucking joke.

>>81206185
So, enjoying Angela Queen of Hel?

>>81206231
But quipping all the time, remember. COMEDY!

>>81206136
>ONE LINE
>IT'S NOW THE SAME LEVEL AS A KEVIN HART MOVIE

>>81206231
Bucky shot first

>MUH /tv/ BOOGEYMAN

Why is it impossible for someone to dislike unnecessary quips, but to also be from /co/?

Where's this 'No true Scotsman' mentality come from?

>>81206272
What's in a word?
More than you can imagine

>>81201565
Vision clearly attacked Hawkeye; Vizh apparently wears civilian clothes when not on a mission.

Wanda is not in costume. The implication is that Vision has been sent to arrest or detain Wanda and Clint.and given Clint is Wanda's best friend and she's lost her whole family, she obviously kicks off.

>>81206272
Who are you quoting?

>>81206165
...You're right, I forgot about the assblasted DC-centric /co/ntrarians who started reading cape comics after they watched the Dark Knight.

>>81206274
He's trying to shoot someone else (Zemo?) but Tony redirects the gun.

He does shoot AT Tony, but its an accident.

Tony's justified in freaking out.

>>81201544
> hulk punching thor in the middle of an invasion of the city

the entire theatre lit up laughing. Its not aimed at serious business for serious nerds like us

>>81206475
>only assblasted DC-centric /co/ntrarians dislike le quips
Amen!

>>81206136
>straight-up comedies
Are you insane?

The entire point of the one-liner is to access a bit of levity. Give the people a breather as they have to go through the debate of whether Cap or Stark are right. A few jokes is required to make the impression that these characters, regardless of their current plight, are still human.
Or at the very least, they're still their own character regardless of what drama has occurred.

Really, what the fuck kind of movie do you want out of Marvel, because it doesn't sound like a good one.

>>81197711
"Tell me what brand of whiskey Grant drinks. I would like to send a barrel of it to my other generals."

-Abraham Lincoln, in the middle of the Civil War

>>81206501
What kind of self loathing fan are you? The only way you'll watch a cape movie is if it debases itself with quips and meta humor?

Why is /co/ getting so defensive over quips? People are allowed to discuss things they don't like

>>81206225
Never said if I watched it or not, jabroni. :^)
I know you're baiting, but it's still worth clarifying my position. I'm not going to watch Batman V Superman (in theatres at least) because back in July I watched a dinosaur flavored dumpster fire called Jurassic World, and for a few months it became the third highest grossing film. If I want to be the change I want to see in the world, I must exercise self restraint and not see something just because everyone else is seeing it or because it's culturally significant.

>>81206625
Fucking degenerates.

>>81206553
Think of the children!

>>81206643
>I dont need to watch a film to hate it
Mah honky.

>>81204850
Took me a couple of watches too. Sometimes I feel like everyone in Hollywood is Mumbly Joe

>>81206625
People are also allowed to make fun of people who have no sense of humor.

Yeah, because Hawkeye would be mad at Black Widow right?

>>81204884
>Cheesy is bad
Get the fuck out. We're talking about power fantasy characters clad in brightly colored spandex with superpowers they got from 60s sci-fi.
The premise itself is cheesy as fuck, might aswell embrace that instead of pretending there's anything here to be taken seriously.

>>81206867
What a patronizing world you live in

>>81204284
>It's being billed as a super serious and dramatic clash of ideals
Evidently not considering this trailer ended in a quip and the last trailer ended with fucking Spider-man.

>>81205294
The thing is they feel grade-school silly without the jokes.
There really isn't much maturity in treating silly things with utmost seriousness.

>>81207006
cry some more, faggot

>>81205815
I liked AoU, you calling it a quipfest and appealing to the echo-chamber doesn't change that.

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>airport fight is 15 minutes long

>not even the main fight

>>81203040
>>81202281
>>81202276
>>81202227
Shitposts.

>>81202299
Sole good post. (The others were neutral).

>>81198843
>consolewar shit
We said to fuck off, /v/edditor.

>>81206136
That's really not how you write comedies though.
Comedies have plot happening to serve the comedy, not just a lot of jokes.
Here pretty much none of the plot is there to serve the comedy, it just happens that there are a lot of jokes.

>>81207126
>A common and legitmate reason for finding something wrong with a movie is dismissed as being part of an echo-chamber

God the mental gymnastics in this thread is hilarious

>>81197711

This isn't what a quip is

>>81207090
>There really isn't much maturity in treating silly things with utmost seriousness

This is ultimately why the DCEU is doomed to failure. It's seriousness is contrived. It feels out of place.

>>81207006
Well he is on 4chan.

>>81207211
It's the second act fight. There's a lot of subplots in this, not just the airport fight

>>81206625
It's the same thing every single time a single joke is said in a Marvel trailer.

There's a certain point where it became annoying and we're well past that. The first couple of months of talking about Ultron was muddled with SJW nonsense accompanied by "QUIP QUIP QUIP CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SHIT IS THIS FOR LITERAL 8 YEAR OLDS?" so naturally people are understandably triggered by faggots spouting it. They don't want the discussion of the movies to be all about how these characters "quip" too much.

Look at this fucking thread. One of the very first jokes related to Civil War is brought up close to a month from release and suddenly it's all over. Worst movie. Whedon shits up another film with his shitty humor.

Fucking relax, man. A little humor isn't going to kill anyone except for War Machine.

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>>81207558
>mfw Bucky Clone, Spidey and Zemo with vibranium sword are all part of the last fight

>>81207558
Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, and Antman seem to get separated from the three Caps and likely leave Team Cap after Rhodey tanks in the airport fight.

And look how high in the air Iron Man and War Machine are, presumably chasing a jet perhaps when the beam hits WM.

Vision and Spiderman tap out after the airport as well.

After that its likely just Cap, Bucky, Stark, and Panther. I think the others are not in the third act at all aside from Vision perhaps passively jamming Stark's suit.

>>81206976
>power fantasy characters
Please leave, tumblr.

>>81201621
But they are.

>quip
Who the fuck says this shit in 2016 faggots

>>81207090
>The thing is they feel grade-school silly without the jokes.
No not really. They don't feel like they're written for kids, unlike most Marvel movies.

>There really isn't much maturity in treating silly things with utmost seriousness.
I never claimed such a thing, but there's most certainly a point where you can make something too silly and childish regardless of the subject matter. It's the reason why Winter Soldier is considered the best Marvel movie so far; it was more mature and less silly with the plot, characterizations, and action. But of course you can go TOO far with the seriousness and have something like BvS.

nobody here wants everything to be as serious and edgy as BvS was

but they really can't make civil war into a comedy quipfest. the comics themselves are super serious and have a lot of tension in them it makes no sense to have them quip and joke a lot. a few here and there is fine and adds to the movie.


too many and you get Age of Quiptron

>>81208288
Dude, if you don't recognize these stories for what they are, you've got a lot of growing up to do. Or you're a retarded adult, either way you've got some growing to do. These are basically soap operas for boys.

Guys, the entire point with Guardians of the Galaxy was to not take yourself too seriously. That's why the super serious bad guy gets challenged to a dance off at the end of the movie and loses.

>>81208897
>comics used to be horribly cheesy decades ago so that means modern movies also need to be horribly cheesy
Please stop. Things change and evolve and it doesn't matter how silly and goofy the origins of the superhero genre are; we can make superheroes movies that move past that into something more mature and serious (but not oppressively so). Bryan Singer's X-Men movies are the perfect example TONALLY of what I'm talking about. Winter Soldier is also a good example.

MCU fans have ruined comics and movies.

>>81197711
Better than BvS's pretentious one-liner fest.

>>81206976
True, almost all cape movies are basically B-movies with a high budget. A guy getting powers from being bit by a radioactive spider and billionaire not-Howard Hueghes building a mechanical suit to fight bad guys is like straight out of a 50's sci-fi schlock movies.

The only significant differences is money and technology.

FUCKING LEVITY GET OUT OF MY SERIOUS SUPERHERO FILMS REEEEEEEEEE

>>81198843
people hated on marvels formula well before man of murder

>>81210202
People hates on everything cape related movies on /co/, because you can't please everyone.

I blame Whedon for everyone's irrational hate/fear of quips. At least everyone is under the Russos protection now.

>>81197986
"Do you know what happens when a toad gets struck by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else."

"How do we know you're really you?"
"You're dick"
"Okay!"

Though in that film's defense (which by the way, is the first X-film) those two lines were actually written by Joss Whedon (not even joking) because FOX wanted some quips in the film. Those were the only two of his suggested ones that survived.

>>81201044
>Just like the comic industry then

>>81209187
The movie has a man who wears a metal suit of power armor ordering a kid in a spider-themed suit to steal a shield which is used as a weapon by a man who was frozen away for 60 years, while a guy in a shrinking suit rides an arrow into battle, which is shot by a spy who specializes in arrows, while a robot who has feelings and a woman who has telekinetic powers inevitably start to have feelings for each other.
Yes, you can move past the silly origins, but you don't get a superhero film then. You get an action film about people with powers. The silliness is part of the charm, and ignoring that charm is like making Generic Action Movie 4235: The Reckoning.

The reason why X-Men is tonally different from the other comic book movies is that they utilize-hell, they thrive off of the messages of discrimination that have been part of the X-Men franchise since its advent. Every single movie of the main X-men line have that connection in their theme, either in finding their place in a world that hates their kind or trying to stop others who are against their kind in some sort of way. The theme is the defining factor.

Winter Soldier stands out because they have a good theme too. Steve is dealing with the fact that he's a man out of time. He's constantly being fed the differences between where he was then and where he is now. He has to deal with figuring out where his place is in this new world where things seem like they're getting better, but there are still people out there who want to ruin it. This is coupled with tension, buildup, and dramatic pulls.

The biggest problem I see in all of this is that people are immediately assuming Civil War is going to be worse because of the ability to joke. Fury's robot car told him his air conditioning is working properly while being shot at, and Winter Soldier came out fine.

>>81197711
>Not wanting Hawkeye to banter
Fuck off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1hFsEnmixU

>>81201150
>ROBBED A VILLAIN OF HIS SCREEN PRESENCE

>>81198843
>SUPER insecure about the fact that their comics aren't selling well

ANAD is tanking harder than DCYou when you look at the individual sales. They just flooded the market with like 70 books

>>81200250

That always happens. Just once I'd like to the see the strongest member of a team just wreck the other sides weakest members

>>81198903
Why are any of us here?

>>81211036
Just to suffer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsdk-AnkVks

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>>81197776
>Renner is one ugly fucker.

Some just don't age well. Twenty years ago he was handsome as hell.

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>>81211148

Alternatively.

>Hawkeye
>quipping
Why are you complaining? That's Hawkeye. It's about time too.

>>81201412
>there's a reason why comic books movie are more popular than comic books
good part is because the kids that read books grow up and want to watch his favorite character in the big screen...stories can be retold but is a big mistake changing the basics of a character...thats why marvel is more sucesfull than dc in this point...

>>81211148
>>81211197
Tara?

Better editing and storytelling than BvS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cR6Xa6fEAg

>>81197711
It's Hawkeye. This is what he's supposed to do. The dude quipped literally the moment before he was killed in the comics.

>>81211412
Not to mention that everyone but Hawkeye has been quip gurus in the MCU

>>81211334

Yep.

It's actually one of the better Lampoon movies in my opinion.

If Civil War is good and breaks a billion, how much money is Infinity War going to make? It's going to be crazy.

>>81206340
Daddyhawk confirmed

>>81201621
guardian of the galaxy, winter soldier im 1 and bvs

mos

rest of the disneyshit

>>81202299
remember the trailers for weekend of quiptron?

everyone thought they were getting a darker marvel movie, boy were we wrong

>>81211942
What constitutes a "darker" movie?

Ultron had plenty of dark elements to it if you paid attention, even beyond Widow's backstory. Banner went into depression because the world saw first-hand the kind of terror that he felt for the Hulk, Cap and Stark are feuding over Stark's insistence to end a war before it begins. Hawkeye is having to justify his presence on the team of gods. Hell, Ultron and Vision have a beautiful moment at the end of the movie about the futility of it all that ties a bow around everything nicely.

I really don't get the benefit of the movie being any darker than that.

>>81211942

Ultron was a darker story for the most part. The team disintegrates under the weight of their own insecurities and the villain is basically one of the team members children.

I'm not saying it's the dramatic narrative of the millennium or anything but it's certainly darker then the first film.

>>81201983
>You are dead slut
How the Russos get away with this?

>>81211334

Back when they were real

>>81203040
So you're soft edge and a a contrarian. gotcha.

>>81204319
>because /co/ doesn't like tons of shitty one liners, they must HATE fun.

riiiight.

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>>81201048

>it isn't by much

Whatever makes DC drones sleep at night.

>>81211148
what a fucboi

>>81202465
Jeff is right about Mario party though at least

>>81217910
>Dark horse that low despite Hellboy and Usagi
Feels bad

I wonder if people who complain about Ultron making jokes in AOU have ever read a comic with fucking Ultron in it

He's fucking hilarious. He's also completely batshit. That's part of his god damned charm.

>>81217910

Marvel just relaunched and their books are crashing to lower sales than they had before the relaunch. They have flooded the market with constant 1#