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So since the New 52 isn't canon anymore does this Wonder

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So since the New 52 isn't canon anymore does this Wonder Woman's New 52 book didn't happen so she has no good comic?
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But it's still canon
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>so she has no good comic
Someone isn't reading the legend of wonder woman
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>/tv/ plebs are so fucking dense that they think New 52 was somehow WW's first good comic
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>>81128742
>Won Deisha
Kek.
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>>81129039
Perez WW had like 6 good issues out of 200
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>>81129216
Uh huh.

And do you genuinely believe the only comic I'm referring to is Perez's run?
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>>81128742
You gonna post the rest of the Trill League OP?
>tfw Blackmayne put Robin up for adoption
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>>81129271

Yes.
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>>81129271
What else would you be referring to
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>>81129520
>>81129561
William Messner-Loebs
Greg Rucka, which I'm storytiming right now so you have no excuse not to read
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>>81129216
This is true. I wouldn't say only 6, but only about 3 or 4 arcs were actually good.

And people often forget that the first one had Len Wein's plot.
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>>81128742
That design
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>>81128826
That's not a good comic
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>>81128742
WE
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>>81133386
WUZ
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>>81133381
You're not a good comic
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>>81129368
Not OP, only got a couple
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>>81133578
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>>81133605
And by a couple I literally mean 2. Sorry about that.
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>>81133605
>The white man's milk with his black power flakes
>Not chocolate milk
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>>81133605
>>81133496
I need more
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>Best Wondie writer coming back
>To retcon everything second best Wondie writer did

Is this the definition of mixed emotions?
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>>81133578
>>81133605
This is a comic I would pay for.
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>>81133703
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>>81133578
So is her hair just a wig?
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>>81133845
You can, it's called Trill League
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>>81133880
Weave
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>>81133880
Nigga it's called a weave
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>>81133845
Its becoming a comic anon
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>>81133880
A We Wuz Gods magic wig though. So pretty much just is natural in her goddess form.
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>>81133902
The fuck is "trill"?
Like they playing the flute or something and fluttering around notes?
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>>81133902
>>81133948
This is amazing.
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>>81133996
I'm ugly cackling at my screen
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>>81133902
Please tell me there's a PeeGee design somewhere...
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>>81134068
>PG hoodrat design
Good lord
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>>81134068
Don't think so
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>>81133697
he has a weakness
>>81134116
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>>81133996
Trill is a combination of true and real. It is a term that means respected or something like that.
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>>81134230
I'm glad to see that someone around here speaks "jive"
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All the characters so far
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>>81134269
Wait no, nevermind it's not. Just a random sampling of some of them.
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>>81134269
Who are the last four?
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>>81134269
I don't get who like half those characters represent.
I feel like I've fail in some important way.
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>>81134269
>superman isn't a really white washed black guy
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>>81134269
why are they black?
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>>81134336
You have a problem with Super-Obama?
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>>81134305
>@allblackeverything
Everything about this is perfect
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>>81134336
>talking shit about Swolemayne
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>>81134384
But it would make sense.

Like his clark kent equivalent is some brian gumble cosby kid theo huxtable.
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>>81134350
Because it's the concept, the stereotypically black justice league.
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>>81134265
I'll have you know that I fluently speak three dialects of jive.
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>>81134406
He doesn't look particularly "hood", all he does is cross his arms. Looks like Lebron James a bit.
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All these black redesigns feel kinda self loathing.
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>>81134415
that sounds.. Racist.
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>>81134269
Where's cyborg?
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>>81134462

Is it a boy, or is it a girl?
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>>81134470
k
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>>81134415
Eh, I'd say the concept is like a rap justice league. That's why it's full of musical references and half of the people are actually based on music ppl
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>>81134490
Would he be like a wigger?
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>>81134491
It's Michael Jackson.
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>>81134068
>PG trill league is ganguro
Please make this happen
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>>81134533
Why not? The actual cyborg is a reasonably articulate black guy so why not make trill league cyborg into a wigger
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>>81134508
'k'?
no, it's not 'okay'. It's.. offensive.
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>>81134577
It's a cool parody. Don't be so offended you tumblrfag
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>all the white ppl not getting the references
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>>81134491

nigga das Michael.
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>>81134521
3 of them are. Flash, GL and Robin.
The rest are just black stereotypes.
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>>81134577
And that's okay.
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>>81134577
Offensive to who? The pictures are well drawn, the person that drew them is obviously understanding of the hip hop culture. The characters are still heroic in nature. I'd say that it is like superhero boondocks or black dynamite. Neither of which were really offensive.
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>>81134670
>The characters are still heroic in nature
Well that's pushing it
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>>81134580
>Chanel print
kek
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>>81134645
Like half the jokes are about rap/hip hop though
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>>81134577
It's okay if the creator is black
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>>81128742
>So since the New 52 isn't canon anymore

are they seriously shitcanning nu52 continuity?
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>>81134670
No you see black people can only be t.v style doctors or lawyers and can't actually represent any of their culture, they have to be white people colored black, otherwise it's racist. You know it's racist because white people will tell you so.
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so progressive
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>>81134730
No, but Rucka will probably retcon some things like the Amazons and maybe the Zeus origin.
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>>81134712
Well yeah it's a pretty big part of modern Afro-American culture.
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>>81134696
Well, they certainly aren't villains
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>>81134712
>power stance in the middle of the elevator
is this a specific reference to something
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>>81134670
>obviously understanding of the hip hop culture
hip hop culture is a blight
>The characters are still heroic in nature.
That's not possible when made into stereotypical niggers
>I'd say that it is like superhero boondocks or black dynamite. Neither of which were really offensive.
They were both disparaging of the cultures they portrayed
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>trill league
I really like the name.
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>>81134781
isn't one of them a pimp?
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>>81134712
I don't get it
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>>81134803
It's the you-gon-get-fucked-up stance
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>>81134837
Hey man, pimps provide a valuable service to the community.
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>>81134837
the name Parallax ring a bell?
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>>81134816
>hip hop culture is a blight

Get out of this good thread anon.
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>>81134837
That's okay because it's part of their culture
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>>81134816
>hip hop culture is a blight
Not really though, no more than comics were a blight when they put the comicbook code in place because of retards like you.
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>>81134816
>black people make media about their culture, poke fun of themselves and everyone else. It's racist because they aren't p.c about it.
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>>81134773
>Trill League is a hilarious parody combining the world of superheroes, anime and hip-hop culture.
From the creator, bye

>>81134850
>>81134803
It's Solange
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>>81134670
To black people that don't descend from hip hop culture, If you didn't notice Africa has more black people in US. And this is only funny for you white american people not for other black people. Its offensive try to learn a bit more about other people and the word before talking for everyone else.
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This is some Boondocks level epicness.
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>>81134850
>>81134803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhu2I_Luv74
>>81134896
yep
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>>81134816
Go back to /pol/ then.

There was nothing really disparaging in black dynamite or boondocks. For starters they were satire and in the case of boondocks, it made fun of a variety of cultures, not just black people.
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>>81134934
>carl winslow commissioner gordon
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>>81134896
Look how much I care. There's literally nothing anime about anything that happens besides the fact that they're drawings.
And yeah Maury is totally hip hop culture, keep it real my African-American brother.
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>>81134960
It obviously references dominant African-American culture, not black culture as a whole.
Jesus don't become as retarded as Americans about this whole race thing.
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>>81134890
Racist and offensive are different things. Boondocks was purposefully offensive to get a point across. It never portrayed black culture as a good or harmless thing, it portrayed it as a self destructive mess. It was just also funny while doing it. It was meant to offend and through that derive entertainment.
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>>81134960
Lol so you're saying that something made by black people about black people, reflecting and pokngi fun of an aspect of the culture they have DEVELOPED!, intended for an american audience, is racist or only funny to white people?
Go cry some more. This isn't for you. This is for people that don't have their heads stuck up their asses.
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>>81134997
You're just not catching the references.
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>>81134963
>epicness
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>>81135068
Kind of like Family guy then. Only with humor and good writing.
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>>81135085
I'm catching some of them when they're there, they're just not all about hip-hop.
But wtv brah,
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>>81135129
Well, I mean, you pointed out the Maury one specifically when it ends with a Chris Brown joke?
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>>81134431
my sudes
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>>81134960
I'm not white and I didn't descend from 'hip hop' culture seeing as most of the music that I listened to when I was a kid was classical, show tunes and whatever came on MTV when it first came out.

What? I guess I can't find "in living color" funny anymore because that be offensive to blacks now? Guess I need to not watch Hollywood shuffle, right? Guess I'm not allowed to find Blazing Saddles funny anymore?nevermind that it was made by a Jew that routinely dresses at\s higher.coh no, I gotta be all offended and shit because something funny happened with a black character. Thanks for setting me straight on what's offensive anon, I'll try to be more sensitive to myself as a black man from now on.
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>>81134870
You can't honestly think there is anything of value left in it. It's just a clown show at this point. Sort of like the elections.
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>>81135164
The Chris Brown joke is just a sign in the stands.
That or I'm really missing something.
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>>81134934
>Meek Milly
>his signal is a big L
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>>81134765
that means that prenu52 wally can come back? i love his mini comicin convergence was pretty good.
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>>81134960
>And this is only funny for you white american people not for other black people
You're a fucking faggot. The arrogance it takes to even make that kind of statement is astounding.
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>>81135310
He could but nothing is announced yet. There's supposedly a huge Titans Hunt reveal coming up though so maybe that's him
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>>81135229
Yeah, that's what I meant.

Anyway, my point is that it's a hip hop culture parody not a black culture parody. It doesn't really go into any other aspects of black American life, just rap/hip hop and it's littered with hilarious references to it. Not saying that there's no overlap, but to describe it as a 'stereotypical black Justice League' is missing a lot of the joke.
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Much like almost every other form of black media, this is uncreative and only relies on parodies to propel itself. The novelty has already worn off. I get it. They're black, and they say "Black" things instead of white things. hahaha
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>>81135400
im good with that or simply make nu52 more like old Wally
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>>81135487
Yo you just some whitey cracker pecka wood hater. *snap snap* uh-hun thaz right.
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>>81135424
I was mostly describing the JL characters, but yeah, the comic itself relies much more on hip-hop culture references.
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>>81134230
THERE IS NO I IN TRUE OR REAL

READ A BOOK
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Jesus Christ, this entire Trill League shit is fucking gold.

10/10 Sparrow/TrillRobin is hilarious and best boy
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>>81135574
That's still what it means, anon, calm your shit.
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>>81135487
>I get it.
nah you don't
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>>81134462
>The lean

I love everything about this
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>>81135574
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trill

Nigga, have a seat.
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I don't really see why people here are offended? It comes off like Justice League Boondocks. It makes some pretty clever references and parodies hip-hop and ghetto culture in an actually pretty funny way. Also, great art.

I would bet money that most of the people getting upset in this thread are white anyway getting offended for us poor black folk as usual.
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>>81135424
>my point is that it's a hip hop culture parody not a black culture parody.
What is black culture at this point beyond hip hop culture? The two are synonymous.
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>>81135714
There is like one person pretending to be upset.
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>>81135714
it's worse, most of the people getting upset are white people pretending to get offended for poor black folks, out of some vague notion that doing so will inflict injury somehow upon 'the tumblr'
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>>81135751
Yeah, like how Country Music is white culture.
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>>81134462
>back-kicks the bullet
>that Jackson lean
This is the greatest thing I've ever seen.
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>>81135804
On that note, are there any black country singers? It's not a rhetorical question I genuinely don't know if there are any.
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>>81135714
Well I'm black and It offends me because I see this kind of garbage targeted towards me like I'm supposed to relate with it, but all it does is make me angry. Then I'm told I'm a white SJW or something because some other black people made it/found it funny and that means I can't be black too, like we're some fucking hivemind.

Fuck hip hop, fuck trill league, fuck the ghetto niggers that pervade the public consciousness.
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>>81136067
Google says yes.
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>>81136108
I'm black, and I think you're overreacting.
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I'm half black half spic and find all this hilarious.
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>>81136067
Hello
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This shit is amazing
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>>81136135
Also black, agreed.
They're probably one of those respectability politics people.
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>tfw black and no thick white girl to read comix with and fug
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>>81136207
I fucking hate those respectability politics people.
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>High school teacher at a predominantly black school.

The last thing these retards need are more media sources normalizing their shitty behavior.
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>>81136108
This. The worst part is that they expect you to go along with their bullshit
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>>81134309
At a guess, Blax Bluthor, Killer Shark (?), Count Vertigo, and Krypto
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>>81136354
Hey go work elsewhere if that's how you feel about your students bro.
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>>81136135
>>81136207
I just don't find jokes about black guys liking to fuck white women and little kids acting like gangbangers funny. Once or twice, whatever, everybody finds different shit funny. But I consider the frequency of this kind of humor warps reality to reflect the media. It sickens me on a personal level because I see actual people that start behaving like these blithering retards and I just can't comprehend it.
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>>81136108
I'm black too and

no I'm not
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>>81136067

The guy from Hootie and the Blowfish
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>>81136354
Anon that is highly problematic. Don't make me tell tumblr on you.
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>>81136398
The shit is funny because it is

A) somewhat true
B) most people know it's silly

That's how comedy works. I have a sister that acts just like pic related and tho her real life antics piss me the fuck off, at least it is comforting to see that other people understand this and can derive some comedy from a similar bombastic character.

The reality is that a black superhero would probably be the biggest dork on the face of the planet but the antics in shows like the boondocks or in these comics are relatable to people that live in the inner city because everyone knows someone that cares a bit too much about unimportant shit like their weave or dance moves.
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>>81133344
It would be better if she had a fro.
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>>81136354
>come out of thread hating nigger culture even more.

Thanks /co/mblr
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>>81136536
And I would agree if that was the only thing that Trill League had going for it, but the combined actual funny pop culture shit >>81135307
>>81134712 and the Justice League references elevates it past that to me. Plus the art is sweet.
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>>81136477
Shitty behavior is shitty behavior regardless of where you are. I teach specifically to offset these tendencies as best as possible to improve society.
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>>81128742
It still happened so no.

>>81128826
not even in Wonderazz league
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>>81133452
NEVER FUNNY
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>>81136755
Anyone's that mad about these comics was already full of hate to begin with and just came here to feed their confirmation bias.
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>>81136691
>A) somewhat true
That's the part that depresses me. Having it highlighted as ridiculous makes me sad that it's a real thing that happens, and far more frquently than I'd like. It makes me feel like the racists might actually be right about us.
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>>81135574
slang is weird anon
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>>81136773
Why don't you use that behavior to your advantage to teach the children?

Also why are you stuck teaching at a school you hate? Is it cause you fucked up college?
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>>81129039
>fucking faggots think any Wondy series before Nu52 was good.
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>>81136461

Ras Al Ghul
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>Be black/mixed and adopted
>Listen to Pink Floyd, Daft Punk, Mystery Skulls, mind. in. a. box, Eagles, Classical, Lazerhawk, Grimes, Enya, Mastadon, Led Zepplin, Gojiira, other crazy shit
>And I don't understand a single fucking reference in any of these comic strips going on here. Think the only rapper I've ever listened to was Kanye's West Daft Punk rendition of Harder, Better, Stronger and MF Doom

Love the characters and idea.
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>>81136833
Because "that" behavior is antithetical to teaching. It is aggressive, combative, and anti-intellectual. It cannot coexist with any real growth.

I'm not stuck anywhere, I enjoy working where I do. Just because I criticize the behavior of the students does not mean I dislike my job.
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>>81136831
Nah white people suck too. They have their shit of shit. /r9k/ like dudes. Dudes that are the reason big bang theory sells because they're just like them and buy that shit. Or nazi/kkk/pol kinda fucks. It's just when you see shitty white people in the media you don't think "oh that's how ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE" like you do when you see shitty black people in the media.
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>>81136910
>It's just when you see shitty white people in the media you don't think "oh that's how ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE"

But white privilege, anon.
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Holy damn, that ass.
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>>81136901
You really don't seem to enjoy it at all. And there is a way to use that anger and energy and put it to purpose. I've done it but whatever be an angry fag about it. I'm sure that'll change the world.
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>>81136833
When the behavior is aggressive, instagating, and negative it's extremely hard to make that positive.

Not the same Anon but I went to an Art College in Wilmington maybe five, six years ago and me and another woman had to teach art to very young children and they were doing twerks, and other shit kids shouldn't be doing and one little boy told me he cant wait to smack a bitch and then proceeded to hit another little girl across the face as they both giggled.

You can't fucking tell me that's good influence.
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>>81136773
If you think your students are retards then you kinda defeat the notion of you teaching them anything, bro. My mother was a high school teacher for 30 years and I've never heard her call her students retards or anything like that. She had good students and bad ones but never heard that expression used to describe any of them.
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>>81133605
>It's okay to be racist against whites an want to destroy them
And you miserable fucks allow this racism to exist because you're so brainwashed by society.
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>>81136973
Why do you think I'm angry? Criticizing someone doesn't mean I'm angry at them. You seem overly defensive about this whole thing. I enjoy teaching, I don't enjoy certain attitudes and cultural mores present in my classroom.

Bad experience with teachers anon?
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>>81136833
This is a funny idea and all, but the joke gets tired very quickly About here is where it stopped being funny.
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>>81136910
I mean let's be real, until recently white people got to be the heroes a lot more than black people
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>>81137007
I calls it like I sees it. I have several students who are devoted to the culture this comic depicts with religious intensity. I did not say all my students were that way.

You weren't present at your mother's staff meetings, so you missed out on some prime pissing and moaning. She had the same feelings and frustrations as I do. All teachers do.
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>>81137056
>dat pendulum effect
>dat eye for an eye
>"we wus wronged now it's your turn"
Humans pls
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>>81137008
it's satire bro, characters are allowed to have their own personality without reflecting the opinions of their creator 100%
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>>81137021
>Why do you think I'm angry
your decision to use emotive language indicative of anger
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These guys feel more like the Avengers than the Justice League with how ineffective they are and how much infighting they do
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>>81137137
Well that's a misread on your part, because I'm not angry at anyone, much less my students.
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>>81137105
I was just saying that it's a lot easier for people to think "oh all black people are like <bad media depiction>" than the same for white people because media predominantly depicted them poorly
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>>81137172
I know, it just feels like the general zeitgeist is that of getting back at whitey.
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>>81136897
>not knowing about Prince
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>>81136910
I don't have to see these shitty white people when I walk outside. I do have to see the shitty black ones though. I had to see them in school, I had to see them at work, I had to see them walking down the fucking street. This shit wears on the soul. Where are they coming from? If the racists aren't right why are they so pervasive? Is it the media poisoning their minds or is there something inherently wrong with us? Have I just lost my mind and can only fixate on the objects of my hatred?

Fuck man I need to move out of nyc.
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>>81136823
I'm not mad, I just feel bad for african americans, they have to deal with probably the most toxic aspects of pop culture, it's fucking disgusting.
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>>81137216
tall poppys need to be cut down when they get too tall
and whitey too damn tall
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>>81137071
Can confirm.

My mom teached in Inner Philadelphia and then Dover kids that grow up in those environments are really bad, they can become great people but there's so much corruption. Music and TV they watch to the environments they grow up in.

Blacks are a small percentage of the overall populace in the united States but are the cause of majority of crime though, that's a problem, that's a real fucking problem. Nether Blacks nor Whites want to even bother to fix it. It's not the people themselves that they were born like that but how they grow up and what environment they grow up in.

Majority of Rap Music, Black Culture involves, drugs, doing obscene and sexual dances, beating woman, leaving them, and shooting up places. The average life expectancy of a black in those areas is 20 at most and then they die.

Actually we don't even have enough scientific evidence to see what an African American dies of most at old age because they never get to that point.

Has nothing to do with Genes or Science in that sense but how one grows up and influence he or she has
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>>81137239
Hey NYC bro.

I don't know where you go, but I hardly ever see these silly niggas. Try moving to an awesome West Indes neighborhood, we have jerk chicken and macaroni.
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>>81136831
Do white people get sad when jokes are made of rednecks, drunkards and trailer trash? What about when jokes are made of old racist white dudes?

I suppose that a difference is that whites know that their own culture is nuanced and multifaceted while minorities are treated as some sort of monolithic thing where all Indians are Navaho, all blacks pop-locking, slang spewing coons, all Asians are smiling Chinese that are perfect at math and all people in turbans are terrorists.

But, if you want to buck the trend then work toward getting black youths more interested in science and mathematics as well as good diction. But keep in mind that the stereotypes will always exist. Believe me, I know since I can't go to certain people's house without being offered chicken at diner.
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>>81137295
Crab mentality. This isn't helpful. It doesn't do anyone any good to 'get back' at another culture.
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>>81137330
Maybe he should not try living on the coast
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>>81137239
>Be me
>Live in downtown St Louis
>Am constantly surrounded by shitty black people and crack heads
>Decide to move out of the city and to the country
>End up surrounded by shitty white people and meth heads
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>>81137346
>Do white people get sad when jokes are made of rednecks, drunkards and trailer trash?

Yes, actually. It's just when we bring it up we get called racists and shouted down.

Shit, we get called racist for denying we're racist.
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>>81137379
anger might not be helpful but to say they have no right to be angry isn't helpful either
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>>81137346
>But, if you want to buck the trend then work toward getting black youths more interested in science and mathematics as well as good diction
I cannot tell you how many times I have been told I act white for showing interest in science and speaking like I wasn't taught english by a brain damaged chimp.

Maybe this was whitey's plan all along, to create such a poisonous culture that blacks turn against one another. Well good job then.
I forsake these people. They ain't my niggas.
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>>81137448
Anger is useless regardless. If they'd devote half as much effort to improving their communities as they do to rallying marches and protests they'd have no fucking problems at all.
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>>81137448
I never said that, anyone can be as angry as they want.

And when they chill, we can all come together as mankind and figure our shit out.

Also it's stupid to hate 'white' people (which white? Irish, Italian, German?) as a group when most of us had nothing to do with slavery or any other of that ol bullshit.
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>>81136276
I'm white and I have this feel. Truly boundaries are breaking today
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>>81128742
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>>81136336
It's a joke.
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>>81136989
>they were doing twerks, and other shit kids shouldn't be doing
Look, ia the rest of what you're talking about is upsetting but dancing is just dancing for a lot of people. I feel like it's a cultural impasse, and Americans in particular go way too 'think of the kids' when it comes to it

>>81137056
But it *has* changed recently, we right now do at least enjoy a varied representation in media. Not comics, but television and advertising have certainly come a long way in a range of depictions of black people.

But then again
>upper middle class black person in majority black country
My life is totally sweet
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If americans made as big of a deal out of slavery as they did out of the holocaust you wouldn't have such a problem with blacks.

But I guess it's easier to moralise when it's someone else doing the wrongdoing, like those reprehensible krauts.
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>>81134577
Eat a dick, tumblrina.
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>>81134398
Best use of the Green Lantern ring I've ever seen
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>>81137485
That's the most heartbreaking thing I see in my classroom. Genuinely smart latino and black kids get intimidated by their cultures to "stop acting white." There is such a pervasive, monolithic racism in black and latino communities that never really gets addressed and seriously impacts their kids.
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>>81137575
It's not really okay to be a pimp and a hero at the same time though
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>>81137379
the fear of being attacked by the general public keeps the ruling class humble, but you have to demonstrate you can and will make good on your threats to keep the fear real.
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>>81137485
I'm in the same boat.

I'm called a Uncle Tom by my black peers and a Nigger by my white ones. Whenever I meet new people they instantly ask whats my favorite rapper, basketball team or something else.

They then proceed to stare in shock when I discuss space, planets, fantasy things or books that I read or discuss Lord of the Rings. In fact, in some cases when I try and play DnD Im instantly denied because Im black and wouldn't be interested and if I do get in, I can only be black races and can't be a fucking awesome Dwarf that drinks beer or play the vampire i want in VTM:B; in VTM:B the single time I was offered it, I could only play as a Brujah and some other fucking clan I had no idea of.

In fact, I've just started going to a Psycotrist because Im having a hard time identifying myself; Im 26 and have a hard time going outside because whenever I do Im ether laughed at or seen as weird.
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>>81137071
Well look. Maybe you "sees it" while looking from the outside in. You seem to think that listen9ng to some music or being 'jive' makes someone a bad person or student. I used to listen to fucking NWA back in the day, was a class clown and still made the honor roll for three years in a row in high school.

Also, you don't know what I saw with my mother. I remember when she quit her job at a normal high school to go work at city lights and I tried to warn her against that. Why don't you go look that school up?

Her biggest complaints about her job were that the fucking parents got in the way of her teaching the students and that the school district kept trying to get rid of the old teachers like herself and replace them with newer less qualified teachers that cost half as much.
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>>81134757
/pol/ is triggered by this guy, but most of the time (anytime but when he was talking about internet harassment, really) he's right.
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>>81137554
This is stupid. Is every single white person supposed to feel guilty for slavery, even if they weren't a part of it?

Also, millions of blacks didn't die due to slavery. Slave masters weren't trying to conquer other countries. As for passing the buck, how about their kings that sold them off to American ships? Dummy.
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>>81137611
I don't see what that has to do with bringing other cultures down to lower-class black standards.

Are you saying whites should fear being attacked by blacks? Because it isn't that common, and I can walk through my 80% black neighborhood any time of day without feeling afraid.
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>>81137520
>which white
British-American
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>>81135574
You say "real" like "rill"
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>>81136831
It's not about race. Retards emulate things they're not supposed to emulate even when the media itself tells them to not emulate it.
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This thread quickly turned into just another reason why /pol/ needs to leave.
What's the point of a containment board when it doesn't contain.
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It's gotten to the point where I'm more interested in a black parody of the JL than the actual JL.
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>>81137627
>Is every single white person supposed to feel guilty for slavery, even if they weren't a part of it?
you reap the benefits, you're part of it.
you don't wanna be part of it? leave the country.
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>>81137664
Then fuck them, but also fuck them for the crusades and everything else.

I don't think when most blacks say 'fuck the white man*' they're specifically referring to *British-Americans.
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>>81137620
>You seem to think that listen9ng to some music or being 'jive' makes someone a bad person or student.

No I don't, you fucking moron.

I think consistent absenteeism, disrespect, fighting in class and outside hallways, constant profanity, refusal to complete assignments, and a lack of parental support makes someone a bad student.

>I LISTENED TO NWA

Good for you, you want a cookie? You didn't fucking act like NWA. That's why you were on the honor roll.
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>>81137710
I don't get why ever since moot made the first news board, its become so acceptable to act like a total stormfronter.
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>>81137719
Don't minorities go to college for a drastically reduced rate? And reaping the benefits of what? Being born a certain way? You don't get to choose your race at the character selection screen when you're born. It's unfortunate that 'race' is still the way it is, but it's not really logical to hate people for..being born?
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>>81137561
you butthurt, mate?
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>>81137663
I'm saying the senate and media mogul, who happen to be white, should be afraid of being attacked by poor people, some of which happen to be black,
but to isolate and minimize these potential threats, these people have the news companies they own spin it so that all black people wanna murder all white people, rather than poor people wanting to murder the people making life worse for poor people
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>>81137485
I've *never* been told that I act white and I was practically Carlton when I was a teen. I used to wear wing tips, slacks and button down shirts to school for god's sake. People used to call me Barry White more than anything.
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>>81137762
I don't get why ever since /co/ became /co/mblr it's become so acceptable to talk about black feels on the comics and cartoon board rather than /r9k/ or something
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>>81137627
See, this is really sad - you're trying to downplay what was a really horrific, cruel act. Whether or not the Africans were in the wrong doesn't stop the other side who participated and established a country with it less culpable. And this proves that America is seriously letting down their students, because millions DID die just in the attempt to cart them across the Atlantic. Not to mention the countless lost due to the conditions they were living under?
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>>81137724
I'm pretty sure african-americans don't give a single shit about irish-americans, german-americans, or italian-americans.
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>>81137603
someone's gotta do it, being an asshole isn't a requirement tough
>pic related
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>>81137618
>In fact, in some cases when I try and play DnD Im instantly denied because Im black and wouldn't be interested and if I do get in
Thankfully I've found myself groups that are predominately black, or if not, completely accepting that I'm just a normal human being who wants to play pretend with them.

We're out there anon. Don't lose hope.
>>81137695
It's not about race, but it's such a pervasive idea that it is that that's the only narrative people accept. I have one co-worker who will not shut up about the entire fucking world being some black/white war and trying to convince him that any strife may actually have classist/education related roots is like pulling teeth. People have been driven so insane by this narrative that it might as well be true.
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>>81135912
At first I thought he carved the shape of his dick into the moon.
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>>81137808
Way to generalize there.

Yep, slavery was horrible. Now what? We admitted slavery was horrible. So now what do we do?
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>>81137485
>>81137598
Nerds get bullied.
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>>81137808
Black Guy here but Africans started selling other Africans as slaves and then I think the Dutch? Or another settlement came in they were like "sshieeeeeet" and then everyone else wanted to get in on that.

There have been slaves as long as there have been humans or at least almost. The Egyptains did it and other civilizations did it before them. Even to this day the reason why it's still such a touchy subject is because it's still quite recent compared to other civilizations. This shit still happens today.

And the honest truth is it'll never end because of people like you AND extreme racist as well be it black or white because they love beating fucking dead horses.
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>>81137895
Sometimes, yeah.

But a nerd is bullied because they're smart.

A black nerd is bullied by other black kids because he's "acting white."

There's making fun of someone because they're different, and then there's racism.
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>>81137803
You're not wrong, this thread is pretty terrible. Really both the /pol/tards and tumblrinas need to be locked into the same board where they eventually convince each other into mutual suicide.
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>>81137786
>And reaping the benefits of what
ancestral riches amassed upon the backs of exploitative labor.

If your family never inherited money, land, or property from a slave owner, you're not being talked about.
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>>81137949
>If your family never inherited money, land, or property from a slave owner, you're not being talked about.

That's funny, because the first people to inherit land and property from slave owners were black.
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>>81137886
give america back to the natives, go back to britain,
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>>81137949
Right. But when you see just general, angry statements like "fuck white people" or whatever, it's like #notallwhites. And it's not constructive anyway for wanting all of one group to suffer for past mistakes. That's the crab mentality thing.
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>>81137862
>It's not about race, but it's such a pervasive idea that it is that that's the only narrative people accept. I have one co-worker who will not shut up about the entire fucking world being some black/white war and trying to convince him that any strife may actually have classist/education related roots is like pulling teeth. People have been driven so insane by this narrative that it might as well be true.
Good point, but "might aswell be true" is pushing it.
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>>81137971
and fuck those guys
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>>81137926
Nearly every social problem humanity has is based on marginalizing people because they're different, racism included. What the differences are fluctuate, but it's driven by the same impulse. This behavior is built into us and we'll never be free of it.
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>>81137974
The natives murdered each other for the land. They weren't "native" any more than the whites were, they just happened to kill the right people at the right moment in time. They didn't own the land.

Bad shit happens. Learn to deal.
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>thread starts off fun, enjoying Trill League being posted
>Thread slowly devolves into black culture discussion, no more comics posted
Fucking hell you guys.
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>>81137981
no see, the way we want them to suffer is to have their money taken away, then use that money to rebuild black wall street. this time fireproof.
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>>81137974
>giving land back to dead men
Now that's just a waste of resources
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>>81138056
trill league should be banned
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>>81138038
this isn't about what's right, this is about what's convenient. and its more convenient to wash our hands of America and focus on making the motherland great again
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>>81134896
Why are black men such scumbags?
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>>81137627
>Is every single white person supposed to feel guilty for slavery, even if they weren't a part of it?
As much as every german was made to pay even if they personally didn't take part in the act.
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>>81137974
a-anon you scare me when you drink.

The world is way too globalized for this to even be an attempt at plausible.
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>>81137926
>someone bullies someone because they're different (smart) and calls them "faggot" or "teacher's pet" or what the fuck ever because that's what they associate with that behavior
>someone bullies someone because they're different (smart) and calls them "faggot" or "white" or whatever because that's what they associate with that behavior
I mean, it's not that different.
The issue is that being smart/different is looked down upon, not really that a racial term is associated with being smart/different.
Yes it's part of the issue but it's a bit incidental.
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>>81138065
the dead outnumber the living, they need it more
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>>81137886
The problem is everyone does downplay slavery and thus doesn't consider it's longterm effects on a populace? Like damn, of course the US black population has some issues. But if you ignore the history and the growth it's made because it's uncomfortable, then you have exactly what is happening today - black people with no sense of identity latching onto shitty media figures because it's the only time they see successful people like them, and white people who can't see the root of issues and just blames it on their skin color.
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>>81138117
I think HItler's game was a far, far more global and ambitious scale than slavery. One was a maniacal douchebag, the other was just some ignorant farmers.

No less evil, but it was a sign of the times.
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>>81138120
nah, that's just bank propaganda. the world can get by without America more than fine
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>>81138056
What does the Trill League even fight? All they seem to do is argue against each other and the civvies. The only villain I saw was Prince if he was the Joker

One of them is a pimp and a vigilante
One is a black supremacist who has given his ward up for adoption after he pissed him off
One of them is on house arrest
All of them seem to have pretty bad anger issues

I definitely would not feel safe with these guys around
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>>81138172
>What does the Trill League even fight?
Ignorance?
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>>81138136
Go to bed Ishtar
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>>81137747
Where's the absenteeism, fighting in class, refusal to complete assignments, etc in any of these comics? What rap or hip hop songs ever say that's the thing to do?

Oh, I didn't act like NWA? really? Aren't Ice Cube and Dr Dre successful businessmen with clean criminal records? The only guy in NWA that was a gangster was Eazy E and he only sold dope and everyone that's actually talked with the man says that he was intelligent. Granted he was stupid when it came to safe sex but that's a lack of knowledge combined with a huge influx of free pussy. But the thing is that I know it is just music just as pretty much anyone else that listens to music.

I really don't like the claim that music is bad because of its lyrics. People don't hear NWA's songs and immediately go and ride on fools. I remember a buddy of mine said that he didn't like GTAV because it promotes gang violence (even though it's mostly about bank robberies and heists) but that same motherfucker is a huge lolicon and would get in his feelings if someone ever suggests that he's a pedo
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>>81138172
The actual comic comes out in like June or July.

Sharkeita and Wondeisha fight a lot.
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>>81138212
It feels like if you tried to criticize them for their lack of heroics you would be called an ignorant racist despite them showing no heroic qualities

Maybe that's the joke
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>>81138140
Slavery happened 250 years ago. Segregation affects more black people today than slavery. It's a non-issue in the day-to-day experience for American blacks.

It is not downplayed, it is put in its proper context as an important historical event. No one in this thread has blamed black people acting poorly on their skin color.

You're being overly defensive and defeatist. Stop blaming white people.
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>>81138244
Well yeah having this discussion on a board that mostly discusses vigilantes in spandex and idolizes Frank Castle, and where people should know how stupid the "think of the children" argument is, having this conversation in the first place seems a bit ridiculous.
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>>81138274
>slavery causes longterm issues for people
>segregation is a continuation from slavery
>this is a complex problem stemmed in the origins of black people in the USA

>STOP BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE
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>>81138244
>Where's the absenteeism, fighting in class, refusal to complete assignments, etc in any of these comics? What rap or hip hop songs ever say that's the thing to do?

The culture these comics depict abhors schooling and education. Yes, it's part and parcel. The music is a reflection of a larger culture, and I didn't introduce the music angle, you did.

>Aren't Ice Cube and Dr Dre successful businessmen with clean criminal records?
Now.
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>>81138391
>Didn't read
>Greentext
>lel whit ppl

Here's your reply.
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>>81138420
The comic doesn't exactly depict any of these traits as desirable.
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>>81136536

Nigger jokes are less funny when pretty much every negative stereotype about them is true.
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>>81137627
1) I don't think all white people should feel guilty about slavery but on the same note it's not cool to downplay the event or pretend that everything was a-ok after 1866

2)African kings weren't selling their own people into slavery, they were selling their enemies into slavery and they really didn't know what the Europeans were doing with the slaves. My understanding is that slavery is how African tribes made themselves larger. They captured people and absorbed them into their own culture as members of the tribe rather than making a personal property with no rights for the rest of their lives and owning their children as personal property. But at the end of the day, they were selling people that were not a part of their tribe and they didn't know what was going on. For all they knew, the Europeans could have been eating the slaves but it doesn't matter since they were enemies or criminals by their laws.
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>>81138166
>the other was just some ignorant farmers.
They knew exactly what they were doing and were exceedingly good at it, from the purposeful segregation of families to the suppression of culture and language to the selective breeding. The goal from the start was to utterly subjugate the slaves and it was wonderfully successful, so much so that their descendants are still a fucking mess. Chattel slavery is a hell of a thing.
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Aside from all this /tumblrpol/ bullshit I am glad i came across this. Looking forward to reading the actual Trill League comic.
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>>81138140

Here's a quick history lesson

>Africans sell their criminals to white people as slaves
>slaves are bred for physical means; any smart slaves (which is very few; they were criminals) are usually killed
>black slaves are still notably less useful than chinese, polish and irish workers
>eventually the civil war happens and, among many other things, slavery is outlawed
>this doesn't bother much of anybody other than plantation owners because it's way more thrifty to just underpay the chinese, polish and irish
>blacks, who were never particularly smart and were bred to be even less so, must now somehow be members of society
>predictably they fail at this, with every one out of every three black men being a violent criminal and every one out of five black men going to jail
>kikes in the media decide this isn't fair and it's somehow the white man's fault black people sold themselves into slavery
>plaster a bunch of black people in the media, trying to make it the new cool
>this backfires as we have half a decade of blacks acting like thugs, and then immediately after trying to be white men with fur coats, gold jewelry and well cut suits
>now they're trying to promote race mixing and mandatory diversity
>this is backfiring as everyone, even black people, are now turning toward the side who would prefer we all remain separate
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>>81138757
>meme miami
>>>/v/
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>>81128742
WW wasn't a good comic

Female led comics can NEVER be good.
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>>81138420
Where are any of those traits portrayed as good things in the comics or boondocks or black dynamite? Where are they portrayed at all?

It seems that you want to blame the entertainment medium for bad behavior. This is no different than blaming video games for school shootings. Seriously, I don't see where any of these things abhor education.

Also you didn't introduce the music angle? Dude, the comic is based on hip-hop, hip hop is a genre of music. You were essentially blaming hip hop for bad behavior. You keep saying that these comics promote all of these things that aren't even in the comics and claiming that things are part and parcel.

>Now

So they had criminal records and such before? Pic related. Dr Dre before he joined NWA. Did you know that Snoop Dog went to a private school?

They were performers. Nothing more. Will smith has more of a criminal record than anyone in NWA.
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>>81139067
>That Dre
/fa/ af
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>>81139067
>Will smith has more of a criminal record than anyone in NWA.
Bullshit. He only comitted one crime
It's called 'after earth'
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>>81139140
>Jaden Smith
>Wild Wild West
>After Earth
Why isn't this motherfucker in jail?
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>>81139067
>Did you know that Snoop Dog went to a private school?

Apparently, he went to school with Cameron Diaz.
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>>81138757
You forgot the part where it was actually a crime to educate blacks for a long period of time and there was also Jim Crow, which perpetuated an uneducated slave-like status for blacks in America.
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>>81137554
You don't know what you are talking about.
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>>81139140
>>81139140
Good one, but he committed aggravated assault.

>>81139244
>Jaden Smith

Hush, he will be a super trap in a few years. Has anyone actually seen him and willow in the same room together? Not in photos but real life?

>>81139285
Yup. Suge Knight was the real deal tho.
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>>81138246
Looking forward to that
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>>81138391
Fuck it, I'll bite.
Your generalised notions of oppression are ludicrous, here's the comparative timeline for china from the end of the mongolian dynasties to today. History is not linear, the ideas each generation has about the past are influenced by their own cultural perception of their history. Everyone is fucked up, everyone is fucking up everyone else.

Lastly, congratulations, you're blaming people who are currently alive for the actions of people who are currently dead with exactly the same broad strokes that the racist shitbags you imagine yourself to be fighting paint black people. "White people" are not at fault any more than "black people" are, ownership of slaves was restricted to 2.5% of the US population, are you going to blame the other 97.5% for those actions?
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>>81139687
>are you going to blame the other 97.5% for those actions?
yes. they were culpable through their inaction
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>>81139744
Ther's injustice in the world right now, probably even pretty damn clos to where you live, and you're shitposting on /co/.
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>>81139687
My point is I'm NOT blaming white people, pointing out the huge issues of the black community today largely come from how the culture developed under such shitty conditions isn't just saying 'fuck whitey' like everyone is assuming?
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>>81139830
and I am a terrible, terrible person. Not pretending otherwise.
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>>81136207
Polar bears actually have black skin under the furr.
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>>81139744
>Culpable through their inaction
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
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>>81139687
Um, China is a pretty bad shithole today man and manicurians were not Mongols. The Manchus ruled over the Mongols which were used to help the Quing dynasty conquer China.
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>>81139744

If I went out tomorrow and said it's the Muslim world's fault for ISIS because they didn't act to stop them, I'd be flash fried by the media.
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>>81140138
I mean Qing dynasty...
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>>81139892
You are therefore a hypocrite for pointing the fingers at others for also being a terrible person.
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>>81140195
Isis is made up of americans so its on the USA head
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>>81140203
*Kang Dynsasty
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>>81140195
The Muslim world is trying to do something about Isis. Not to say there weren't Europeans and American whites that tried to argue against slavery and even stop chattel slavery before it became a thing. My understanding is that that there are a few European nations that outright outlawed slavery in the 15th and 16th century and really did not participate in the Atlantic slave trade.
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>>81140253
I absolutely am, yes.
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>>81140287
Qing dynasty was 1644-1912
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>>81140328
So what is even the purpose of bitching. No criticism you have on the subject is worthy to be heard.
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>>81140427
I probably could have answered that question twenty minutes ago, but the eggnogg just kicked in
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>>81140476
Oh your a joke like every other internet fake person. That explains the 'yeah i agree with you in a way that shows how much i dont care'.
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>>81140138
(as far as southern chinese are concerned Manchus are mongols, It's funny running into han chinese who dont realise the difference, also americans have no fucking clue that there are different self identified ethnic groups within china)

But yeah, I was playing fast and loose with who was exactly who, main point being that the mongols have had a reasonable hand in running china for a very long time prior to the recent revolution. Yes china is a shithole, but it's much less of a shithole if you're han chinese than say, a manchu.
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>>81140561
probably. dunno why you expected sincere race discussion on /co/
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>>81140768
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>>81137611
Is it a revanchist shitty left wing idea on how to deal with discrimination? Estimulating FUCKING racial hate as legimilate? You know that you are no different from /pol/ right with this "we" vs "them".
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>>81140792
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>>81140832
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>>81140808
my post was clearly talking about social class, not race.
let me be more clear DEATH TO THE ARISTOS
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>>81140897
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>>81138757
If this is the case shouldn't we just arrest them all or ship them out if all they are, are the violent criminals of Africa?
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>>81140943
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>>81137239
I lived in portland and had to see silly white people everywhere I went but you don't see me turning racist and crying over it now do ya ya homosexual.
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>>81137949
Less than 10% of americans had slaves.
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>>81140948
Well first off the guy's claim is false, secondly that would be highly unconstitutional. You can't just banish an entire race of people based on what a minority from that group does. Thirdly attempting that would probably spark a civil war with an ethnic group that's about the size of Canada's population.
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>>81140948
We bought thwm fair and square. They're our problem now.
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>>81133845
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/471907337/trill-league-comic/description

yu can!
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>>81140948
>shouldn't we just arrest them all
We're certainly rrying
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>>81137121
Not on /co/ they're not.
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>>81140948
Remember Liberia?
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>>81138757
>blacks, who were never particularly smart and were bred to be even less so
you can stop someone being smart, but you can't "bred" them to it.
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>>81140607
That's a fair assessment.
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>>81133902
>new 52 Trill League

Amazing.
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>>81140890
It's stupid too anyway.

This line of thought resulted only on shit happening and people being manipulated to put another class in power.
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>/co/ collectively can't take a joke

This place really is /co/umblr.
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>>81141278
I think ignorance is taught just as much as intelligence is.
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>>81141449
yeah but its like a catbox. You either clear the old shit out to be replaced by new shit, or you let the shit pile up until it stinks the whole house and the cats are just shitting where they like
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>>81141494
*/co/mblr
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>>81128742
Ok so if the Trill League is all based on hip hop and popular culture, is Aquat based on Kayne West? Is his name a joke or a reference to something?
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>>81141494
Who are you even calling out as tumblr? People who got mad at stereotypical nigger behavior because they know that its part true, or at people saying to embrace or ignore niggerelf behavior when it is done for humor?

None of these positions are Tumblr.

Tumblr just pretend that non white people aren't problematic.

I actually saw a girl writting a story about werewolves where she was unsure on how to represent black werewolves.

She wanted to make them have more control over the transformation, her justification was that black people have to live constantly with racism and so are more "in control of their emotions and impulses so they don't snap at others over the casual racism". The girl was fearing that representing black people as more in control of their Wolf part would reinforce a racist narrative that black people are more "animal" or some shit like that.

Now I don't remember exactly why I wrotte this, but I have the feeling that its kind of similar.
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>>81141552
Looks like Usher to me honestly
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>>81141773
Not to mention it was only like three people upset with how people were portrayed. It got derailed by discussion, not outrage.
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>>81141552
>>81141805
Pusha T? Unless there's another Someone T I don't know about.
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>>81134116
Oh my god.
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>>81141552
>black guy who can swim
Ok now it's just implausible,dropped.
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>>81141773
doesn't seem relevant. Anon is complaining that other anons are offended at parody based mostly on real people by a black man no less. werewolf girl has no bearing on this conversation
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>>81141990
Most of the Anons upset were black though, it's not really the same thing as white girls on Tumblr bitching on behalf of their assumed opinions of others
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>>81142028
*claimed to be black
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>>81142028
It was just one anon saying he was upset and black. Then like 3 others saying they were black and didn't give a damn. Turns out people claiming to be black people have a variety of opinions on shit just like any other anon claiming to be some other race/gender have variety of opinions. Truly we have learned a lot about anonymous racism and opinions today. Ty blackman.
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So this is Boondocks with super heroes?
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>oh boy, more Trill League stuff!
>muh feelings
goddammit
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>>81137618
I'm coming in hours later, but I hope you can find a good group where you can play your dwarf. You're not alone. The best player in my real world 40kRP: Rogue Trader group was an awesome black guy of Afro-Caribbean descent, and the game fell apart when he had to move. Farewell Theophilus, you were the best Seneschal a newb GM could have hoped for.

Don't worry, I'm sure there's a game out there for you somewhere. I'd offer to run one for you myself if it wasn't almost sure we're on different continents.
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>>81142115
There were at least two upset black anons
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>>81137618
>I'm called a Uncle Tom by my black peers and a Nigger by my white ones.

You need better peers. I'd say come to England, but we have literal peers who'll not only be racist, but will be really irritatingly condescending about it as well.
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>>81137618
You need better friends, anon.
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>>81141494
>Being this new.
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Yeah that's good and all but can she beat Moonman?
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>>81137554
This is something brought up in the black community constantly.

Holocaust museums went up within 10 years of WWII

Meanwhile we didn't get any museums about lynching or jim crow till the late 80's.

It pissed off a ton of us niggas.
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>>81140832
dat terrible typography
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>>81140866
am I the only one who still reads blackmayne with TAS va?
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>>81140866
>his eyes closed just like marvels

PERFECT
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>>81137554
But they did. Thankfully Jews were the slave traders, not the victims, and they could't mount up the same defense that they have for the Holocaust.
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>>81144627
Yet everyone must remember the 6 trillion. When all of those slaves go without mourning.
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>>81144855
That's what I was saying. Jews were the not the victim during the slavery period, they profit from it. Had they have known, it would've been a cow big enough to milk in addition to the Holocaust, but they can't since they were too involved in the slave trade.
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>>81144192
Damn, you're sort of right, the African American history museum in DC was established in 2003 while the holocaust museum in DC went up in 1993.
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>>81128826
Or Wonder Woman 77, that one is fun as hell.
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>>81134269
>even the fucking dog
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>>81134269
>black lex luthor is basically puffy
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>>81134269
I am not against this at all, but no one knows how to write black characters at muhvel, and Milestone is never making a comeback.
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>>81151396
I meant DC, but it is true for Muhvel as well, DC at least got the excuse that Duffie died, and their writers just don't really know. I mean Earth 2 Black Supes is just regular Supes without a discernible power chart.

I mean I am Hispanic, and I like Static an awful lot, but ever since nu52 nobody knew what to make of him, Nu52 wally seems to come out of a recipe or something.

>Troubled "hood" teen? yeah let's go with that.
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>>81136108
You're on /co/, you're going to overreact to everything anyway.
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>>81136108
this is like a white guy gettin offended by a piece of media satirizing rednecks
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>>81137239
Don't worry, if you move somewhere else you can be surrounded by shitty white people instead and just loose all hope for humanity.
I live out in the country and it's white trash as far as the eye can see. Lots and lots of dole bludgers who like to use the roads around us to make ice deals because the police don't come near us. Fun times.
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>>81141552
who is his archnemesis?
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>>81134468
That's cause they're by white people.
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>>81141552
He looks like Will Smith to me
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>>81134024
the ass killed it for me
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>>81134462
This is only possible thing that could top that
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>>81135124
so nothing like famely guy
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>>81153605
Ta White Man
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>>81133658

A couple means two. Its not synonymous with "several" or "multiple" or "a few", it means and only means "2".

Why apologize for using a term correctly?
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Black ww is hot
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>>81154116
>Black Adam literally just a black guy named Adam
>Not even a supervillain
>Just an asshole
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>Literally Boondocks meets DC
>Autists sperg out
Look, stop being a bunch of faggots and enjoy the stupidity of it

Not even neo/pol/ get this triggered
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I don't see a problem here. If anyone is offended by some guys online contributions they need to grow a pair.
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>>81134116

oh my
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>all this time
>no purple freeze

We can't be boys no more
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>>81153605
The EPA
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>>81158314
>Prince and Michael are rivals
kek
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>>81143843
>Trill League VS Moonman story
Holy fuck. Why do I suddenly want to see this.
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>>81139744
Holy shit, keyboard warrior. Why aren't you doing anything to stop the slavery that still exists in Africa and the Middle East? You're apparently culpable for it.
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>>81153921
What? I don't understand.
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>>81134213
Who dis?
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>>81137623
/pol/ is triggered because he has opinions that they don't like, and they have opinions that he doesn't like.
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>>81136833
What's THOT mean exactly?
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>>81134116
Don't fight it, give in!

Dude reminds me of that one irrationally racist black hero. I can't remember his name or what he's from, but he was essentially Batman and he didn't like their white equivalent of Supes but there was this black Flash that was cool and called him out on his racism.
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>>81141968
He's wearing floaties
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>>81141968
That's his super power, obviously.
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>>81158314
>Annie
Ok, I lost my shit on that one.
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>>81153605
White Man-Ta

>>81156506
Oh you already did it...
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>>81160531
that ho over there
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>>81134960
It's fucking about American culture you faggot, why the fuck should it reflect or make fun of African cultures?
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>>81160584
Okay, I think I remember, it was that guy from Squadron Supreme, Nighthawk.
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>>81140866
i need this to be an actual comic.
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>>81134960
You should watch Boondocks and chill out
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>>81134462
>The Flash is MJ, because MJ could move like a slick motherfucker
This is perfect.
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>>81157073
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>>81133605
always crack up at that black ink on black paper bit
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>>81128742
The fuck is this shit?
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>>81135774
Is Tamtam supposed to be that baby that Swolemayne denied?
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>>81137618
Anon, there is a saying - "Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounding yourself with assholes."
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>>81137346
>Do white people get sad when jokes are made of rednecks, drunkards and trailer trash?
Not really, I mean, you can't deny those people aren't real, and I have to laugh because rednecks can be fucking dumb hicks, and trailer trash are pretty much on the same level as the shifty types you find in the ghettos.

I mean, it gets insulting when it's applied or insinuated to represented all whites (which it typically isn't). The only time it's ever offensive to me is when I'm called a redneck for being pro-2A (typically by a white person, though not always), but that's more that those kinds of people are being reactionary fucks with preconceived notions, they aren't interesting in a dialog, so they just call you a stereotype, you see this kind of thinking a lot on Tumblr and /pol/

Besides, most of the time, the people who make jokes about rednecks and hillbillies are white, Larry The Cableguy's career is built on that, he isn't actually like that in person, it's just his shtick, he's making fun of trailer trash, and I've never seen someone say that's offensive to whites

>What about when jokes are made of old racist white dudes?
Those exist too, just like the old racist black dudes. Again, it would only be really offensive to me if it's insinuated that all old whites are racist, or if I disagree with a person, it means I'm a racist old white dude.

I don't think it's unfair to make fun of the hood stereotypes, because it's not like those people don't exist, and it's not like people think that's what all blacks are like, that'd be absurd, only the most ignorant fuck would look at someone like Marlon Wayans and his films and think "Yeah, that's how blacks be like"

I think something that would be WAY more offensive would be how when a black person gets called an "Uncle Tom" (race traitor, essentially), for being "too white", or worse yet, when a white person calls a black person an Uncle Tom for not voting on the Democrats, that's the height of arrogance to me.
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>>81136276
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>>81130014
>>81129561
>>81129520
Loebs isn't great, is a 90's fun book but not a must read
Rucka and Jimenez depend of your taste but it wasn't bad.
Simone and JMS has 1 or 2 good issue but in general they're mediocre/decent stuff
Azz and perez was objetive good, is you like or not is other.
Also O'neil stuff was very underated and WW has fun stuff pre-perez.
In general, Wonder woman has a more solid writer story than for example Iron man , Ms/Captain marvel(Carol) or Teen Titan
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>>81138172
>What does the Trill League even fight?

The fun police?
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>>81137008
You understand that he's a parody on crazy reactionaries, right?
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>>81161882
Nah, Shazam
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>>81137428
Really? You gonna deny that there aren't dumbass redneck fucks?
https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2016/03/25/graphic-georgia-man-blows-leg-off-shooting-lawn-mower-filled-tannerite-target/

Look at this guy, he put 5lbs of tannerite inside an old lawnmower, to shoot at, from like 50yds~, not understanding he turned the lawnmower into a giant grenade, then, when the shrapnel tears off his left leg below the knee, he exclaims loudly "I BLEW OFF MUH LEG!" in his redneck voice, as if it wasn't obvious he was going to get injured

There's a lot of whites on /k/ and they all lined up to laugh at him for being a dumb hick who almost got himself killed, doing something extraordinarily dangerous, denying that people like these are a thing is disingenuous, and they absolutely deserve to be ridiculed.

I feel no sorrow when these kinds of people are made fun of.
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>>81161186
I like the boondocks this is just offensive.
>>81161144
And this is the shit that pisses me off, you act as if only you in America have blacks and that all of us acts like your black people, and thats is just not the case.
>>81135074
Maybe this is for people that find any fun on stereotypes of the black american culture, and those where never funny. Just like the BET and other stupid idiocies alike.
>>81135312
Let me guess you are white and american right?

You know you americans should try to learn or remember that there are more black people and other cultures in the world. And that your population of non whites is a non significative sample of those cultures. Maybe, you should also learn that what you export, and that many of us around the world actually read your stuff, so maybe you should be a bit more considerate.
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>>81138110
Why are white americans so stupid racists with comments like this?
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>>81162667
I'm black and nobody has ever called me an Uncle Tom for being reasonably well spoken or getting good grades. Being an Uncle Tom is more about being an apologist for abusive whites or being hyper critical of the black community while actively ignoring any and all progress or positives within the black community. A lot of people throw around crabs in a bucket, well an Uncle Tom is a crab that thinks he's been lifted from the bucket but he doesn't see the pot of boiling water yet.
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>>81128742
>since the New 52 isn't canon anymore
and what ass did you pull that wish from OP
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>>81133578
I love the fact that she has fake gucci symbols instead of stars, like those womem that buy fake brands to impress people but swear they are authentic when het called on it by others.

Like at the end of the day no one but bitches give a shit but fuck it's hilarious.
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>>81163501
>you act as if only you in America have blacks
But I'm not, you faggot, I'm saying the subject of Trill League is American black culture, it's completely irrelevant to African cultures.
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>>81163529
The American education system?
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>>81133902
Where is Cyborg?
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>>81164874
Its stops being the moment you people start thinking all blacks behave like your black people from the ghettos you drove them to.
>>81164901
Sometimes its as if they lack one.
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>>81165283
I recall hearing that the focus of the American education system shifted sometime in the 60's or something to empathise on teaching the students to be self assertive over facts, and this is part of the reason the American education system is fucked.
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>>81162992
That's a good one.
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>>81165418
There was some weird self confidence movement that switched things from assessing achievement to trying to build everyone's self-esteem, regardless of achievement level. I mean it was kind of well intentioned but it was an awful way of going about it.
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>>81165283
>Its stops being the moment you people start thinking all blacks behave like your black people from the ghettos you drove them to
But nobody does, what the hell makes you think that?
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>>81163431
The issue is when these kinds of people become representative of the whole demographic. Rednecks representing all white people doesn't happen very often, though they do sometimes get touted as archetypal "country folk". Ghetto people however tend to be shown as typical black people though. I suppose it's easier to get away with that kind of generalization because they're only 14% of america and, surprise surprise, most of them are concentrated in ghettos.
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>>81166313
Yeah, making it the focus was a huge mistake, because it teaches kids to never admit that they are wrong even if they are missing the facts. Just look at the SJW movement - they value their emotions higher than facts and I don't think all of then are stupid. They have just been brainwashed by the education system to trust their own feelings more than other peoples views.
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>>81166514
>Ghetto people however tend to be shown as typical black people though.
Maybe I'm just naive, but it doesn't usually come across that way to me, unless it's like a work by Wyatt A. Mann or some Stormcuck meme.
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>>81166605
Well is there a counter stereotype that normally applies to black people? Is their a black equivalent to the yuppie or the hipster? You see those stereotypes in media and they're predominantly whites. You see the ghetto stereotype and they're predominantly blacks. They don't have to outright say, "all blacks are like this", but people tend to draw conclusions of their own accord when there's no other dominant stereotype.
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>>81166461
Who does? You ask? Seriously? You blind or something? Why do you think you have racial quotas and token black people on your media? You think that if white people thought black people even differ from "niggas from tha hood" these things would even exist? Because there is only two options for you people one either is a dude with white people tastes and considered an educated black man or one is a nigga from da hood, that lives on wellfare and refuses child support. Maybe people are just inventing...and none of you think that, its not as if your black people were saints but if you whites are heterogeneous we are even more. And even before your euorpean ancestors landed on my continent and exploited our stupidity we were already. So go be an hypocrite elsewhere.
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I find it kinda ridiculous that an over the top melodramatic show like Doctor Who typically portrayed black people on the show as average British citizen, but American entertainment doesn't seem to be inclined to do the same. If anything the American media seems to have set a scewed standard that either blacks can be thugs, or they should be exceptionell individuals. The idea of inserting the idea into black kids minds that they should feel like losers for being average is a horrible thing to me. It's kinda setting them up with the idea that they should be overachievers and they will probably become burnouts as a result.
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>>81167174
America has a very different view of race than the rest of the world. Chattel slavery and segregation will do that to you.
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>>81134617

>Forfeit half your deck for the next 18 turns until you have nothing.

Dead.
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>>81137121
>Be racist against the very existence against whites and blame them for every negative thing be it legit or exaggerated.
>Gets called out on it
>It's just satire bro!
I can guarantee you if the races were reversed the poster would get banned for racism. That is the reality we live in.
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>>81166886
Of course there are. Just watch a few hours of Tyler Perry or something like that.

There's the Mammy, and it's fat sassy black woman variants.

There's the Porter. Hard working blue collar male, no nonsense, grounded in reality, and a father figure. The PJ's, the Ghostbusters,

There's plenty of others. The Rasta, the black nationalist.

There's urkel, which is essentially a black nerd/weeaboo.

>>81134696
Disagree strongly. Different cultures have different standards on what they consider "heroic". There's parody involved yes, but that doesn't invalidate the other components.
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>>81167693
>Just watch a few hours of Tyler Perry
can't tell if serious
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>>81167506
Motherfucker.
It's stature because there are really militant Afrocentric new black panther, black Israelites, Nation of Islam and black Muslim types that act and talk like blackmayne. Even still the motherfucker didn't say a goddamn thing about destroying white people. The character's behavior is supposed to be seen as unreasonable by the audience. It's really no different than portraying a white character that spends all his time talking up about whiteness over impossibly trivial shit like saying white bread is the best bread in the world or only buying whitewall tires to go on his white pickup truck with all white interior.
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>>81167693
Come on man, it's almost like you never actually watched any black tv shows.
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>>81167790
>It's really no different than portraying a white character that spends all his time talking up about whiteness over impossibly trivial shit like saying white bread is the best bread in the world or only buying whitewall tires to go on his white pickup truck with all white interior.
Which never fucking happens in any form of media becauset he publisher would go bankrupt. Even the supposedly racist hillbilly rednecks don't act like that and if they do they are intentionally shown to have immense negative traits like being dirty, obese, balding, messed up teeth etc to enforce tha they are dumb and shouldn't even be remembered. Meanwhile Blackmayne has the body of a nubian elite guard and is portrayed as attractive, rich and capable.
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>>81134462
holy shit

I wasn't really on board at first, but this sold the shit out of it for me
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>>81136067
>>81136590


Hootie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UI0WZkuyXg
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>>81137618
Where the hell do you live, anon?
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>>81151396
>>81151461
Careful about wishing. You want more Hudlin in your life?

>>81142214
Pretty much.

>>81163982
Come on now. There must at LEAST people saying that you bougie as fuck, and that you need to get real, to your roots.

>>81167774
The fact that people can't is a testament to how illiterate, and riddiculously stiff people are on this topic.
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>>81167896
>Meanwhile Blackmayne has the body of a nubian elite guard and is portrayed as attractive, rich and capable.
Because he's partially based on Batman, who is all of those things?
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>>81168628
>The fact that people can't is a testament to how illiterate, and riddiculously stiff people are on this topic.
I think people are objecting to having to watch Tyler Perry's movies.
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>There are people actually be bothered by the trill league shit

Receive death, please
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>>81167774
His point is to get a perspective on stereotypes within black media rather than just the stereotype of blacks within nonblack media.
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>>81167896

>Which never fucking happens in any form of media becauset he publisher would go bankrupt.

What? Pic related.

>Even the supposedly racist hillbilly rednecks don't act like that and if they do they are intentionally shown to have immense negative traits like being dirty, obese, balding, messed up teeth etc to enforce tha they are dumb and shouldn't even be remembered.

That's the image that *some* rednecks often portray about themselves in the world tho. At least these days when motherfuckers are redpilling crackpot Alex jones conspiracy theories about the president being a Klingon jihadist on the air whenever they call in to Limbaugh or give an interview at a trump rally after punching a protestors lights out for throwing a middle finger.

>Meanwhile Blackmayne has the body of a nubian elite guard and is portrayed as attractive, rich and capable

But that's the stereotype of the black Afrocentric militant character archetype. The original black panthers believed that physical fitness and mental fitness were important traits to unify the black community. This is the image that the original black panthers, as well as the Nation of Islam and even the new black panthers tried to project. Their reasoning has always been that you can't be any help to your people or community if you're in poor health. Blackmayne, as well as similar characters, like black dynamite, personify an idealized version of that archetype.

But if you notice, swolemayne and tamtam don't personify the same traits. One is a slob and the other is a deadbeat dad and neither talk all that black power stuff.
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>>81168762
Just close your eyes and say to yourself "It's for our own good. I'm getting culturally enriched."
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Pretty sure they made a point of it that Rebirth isn't a reboot
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>>81136108
>I'm black but I'm not like those other NIGGERS. I don't like hop hop!!

Fuck off
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>>81136729
ew, no
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>>81168628
I'm not bougie or uppity tho. Nobody ever tells me to get in tune with my roots because I'm already there. I don't like everything that's popular these days in the community, but I try to be fair. Also I only hang with enlightened people anyway.

I think the closest it ever came to that was when I was walking to union station in DC and some dude gave me a sob story about being a stranded construction worker. So, I offered to buy him something from the McDonald's in union station and he started pitching a fit because I didn't invite him to my home to offer him some food from my fridge or something. The truth is that my fridge and cupboards were completely empty and even if they weren't, I didn't know him and that's how motherfuckers get robbed in their own homes.
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>>81136729
It wouldn't fit the stereotype tho.
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>>81169562
>Also I only hang with enlightened people anyway.
what does that even mean
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>all these people mad at a black guy for not being a stereotype and hating SJWs
>they never seen the niggas of /mlp/
/co/mblr, everyone
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>>81169718
I don't give a fuck about SJW shit. It's the "I don't like hip-hop, that's for niggers" shit
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>>81160495
/pol/ is triggered because they have always have a pole up their ass.
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>>81169718
To be fair, no one should be at /mlp/ in the first place.
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>>81169647
It means I only hang out with people that have their heads on right and aren't into foolishness or self-destructive bullshit.
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>>81169804
>/pol/ is triggered because someone hates tumblr
Zuh?
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>>81169771
Perhaps if niggers didn't assume I like it cause I share their skin tone I'd be somewhat less resentful
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>>81169824
That's just common sense.
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>>81169824
I believe the term you were looking for then was "normal people"
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>>81170117
I think a better term is well-adjusted people. Normal is relative to the local culture.
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>>81169976
If that were true then most people ideas of fun wouldn't piss me off as much as it does.
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>>81170117
In my experience *normal* people don't meet the standard that I set. I don't hang out with *normal* people because most normal people are into foolishness and self destructive bullshit.
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>>81170272
Maybe you just hang around too many niggers
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>>81170387
Pictured: a bunch of niggers
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>>81170387
Pictured: a niggress in her natural habitat
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>>81137623
The guy has some really stupid opinions though. The whole "current year" thing just didn't pop up out of thin air.
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So basically to sum up the complaints in this thread, some American black people wants more respectful rolemodels in media for black people, and they are angry with pandering to a culture that prides itself on anti intellectualism and destructive behaviour?

Also, some people just want to enjoy Trill League as a fun thing and want the offended people to take their complaints somewhere else more relevant than an escapism board?

This all resulted in that no one got what they wanted?

Did I get all this right?
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>>81170887
It's more like some blacks and some whites getting pissy because, for whatever reason, they don't want to even see urban comedy. The blacks don't want to see it because they want to distance themselves from the prominent image of the black community. Essentially they are respectability politics fags. The whites don't want to see it because they just get upset at a]seeing any representation of black culture and it makes them feel uncomfortable. Everyone else,M white, black and whatever,M understand that it is comedy/satire and treat it as such.

Basically the same thing that happened with boondocks and black dynamite.
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>>81140832
>Putting Sparrow up for adoption

The best part is that this is something Batman did to Robin before
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>>81171097
So it can all be solved with growing a thicker skin then?
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>>81171204
Precisely. Or it could be resolved by seeing stereotypical black wonder woman in the first post, realizing that one does not want to see stereotypical black wonder woman because either one will be offended or one's dick might move at looking at her jungle booty when one doesn't want ones dick to move and then going to the Steven universe thread instead.
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>>81158314
>Annie
>Prince vs. MJ Flash

Yes, this is amazing
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>>81134968
Yeesh and I thought I liked some overly specific references
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>>81171297
>going to the Steven universe thread
They might as well just slit their wrists instead
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>>81171433
Whatever will help keep them from getting buttblasted over a satiracle comic and pictures of booty. They can also go watch old episodes of the cosby show or one of the many, many shows where you only see non-threatening black people.
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>>81171561
>Cosby
>non-threatening
Not in retrospect.
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>>81171097
But I like boondocks and black dynamite. Trill league a shit though.
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>>81171761
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SBDRwiSZSBg

Touché
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See, the thing about these comics is they take something that should be used sparingly and overdo it until its corny. As a black man who actually identifies with overarching black culture, I think black humor is done best when it doesn't entirely rely on stereotypical elements. That's what made The Boondocks so great--it had a mix of niggas doing nigga shit, white people doing white people shit and everything in between. Every joke wasn't "Oh no he di-'int" or "These hoes on my dick," but when they were, it worked.

What makes Trill League problematic is that when whites read it they aren't laughing out of context with the culture (context enough to know that this is greatly exaggerated, might I add) but laughing out of a "Oh this is funny because this is what blacks act like" scope. It's uncomfortable.
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>>81172233
Understood. But think of the one page strips as basically establishing the characters.

The same whites that laugh at trill justice league and think 'that's the way blacks act' also agreed with uncle ruckus 100% in the boondocks thought the same of black dynamite.
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>>81172233
>What makes Trill League problematic is that when whites read it they aren't laughing out of context with the culture (context enough to know that this is greatly exaggerated, might I add) but laughing out of a "Oh this is funny because this is what blacks act like" scope.

As a white person I'm laughing because it is ludicrous but in no way believe it to be any more representative of actual black culture than insane parodies of oppressive Chinese parents or the weird WASP stuff of northeastern US whites in fiction.
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>>81172834
I don't think he means all white people.
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>>81172233
But that's their problem, or more likely YOUR problem.
People "enjoying it wrong" doesn't make it problematic.
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>>81172834
As a black person I can tell you people like this exist in great number and trill league is a fairly accurate representation of their culture. I work with a blackmayne and grew up with trill robins and tamtams. You would be shocked by the ludicrous things that are real.
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>>81173030

Where the fuck can I get me some magic powers then
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>>81173149
eat peyote and read grant morrison comics
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>>81173149
I hear bathsalts endow a man with supernatural strength and endurance. Try some of that
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>>81173195

The Peyote is to keep the Grant Morrison comics from getting me too fucked up, right?

>>81173218

Why don't I just buy some Red balls for all that
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>>81173030

You are completely removing the nuance from black culture and I can tell that you probably lurk /pol/ and post self-shaming things on nigger-hate threads.

Like I was saying here >>81172233 Trill League enables people to internalize certain facets of black culture as being the primary characteristics of the culture. Are there women who say "You betta not be texting that bitch again, Tyrone."? Yes, I know a few. Are there guys who invite their homies to the party knowing damn well you don't want a bunch of randos at your house? Yes, this happens frequently. But to generalize based on facets such as these misses the entire scope of the culture.
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>>81173435

>But to generalize based on facets such as these misses the entire scope of the culture.

No but such pointless and obviously false trivializations are fucking humorous which is the point
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>>81173435
/pol/ is a madhouse and I haven't even lurked there in years.

I'm just saying it like I sees it. Generalization or not, I can tell you these people are real. If it's their culture promoting it, don't know don't really care. I try to limit my contact with them these days.
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>>81172233
As a non-American white, it's funny to me that he took these classic characters that are traditionaly paragons of virtue that we grew up with and turned them into crass shallow people from pop culture. I also realise that jokes does not reflect reality.

I can however sort of sympathise with feeling misrepresented as an ethnicity in media. I'm Swedish and I was kinda offended by a TV show, written by an American (alleged) comedian. The show was called Wellcome to Sweden, where the joke basically was a bunch of quaint stereotypes that wasn't funny to us over here, because that wasn't how we viewed eachother from an inside perspective. Everyone over here wondered were the jokes where and it just seemed like the show was shitting on us for no good reason. So the show was quickly dropped from the original primetime and almost no one ended up watching it. Somehow the show got popular enough in America and NBC renewed it for another season, so I guess it was funny to someone.
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>>81173921
How long ago was this show on TV?
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>>81170887
Yeah, no, that's pretty much it.
>tfw race threads on /co/ are always the most fun
Thanks, Trill League!
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>>81134850
Solange, Beyonce's sister. Beat up Jay Z in an elevator, theres security footage of it
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>>81174046
From 2014 to 2015. It apparently was cancelled before finishing its second season. I guess I would describe the brand of humour it was going for was Ben Stiller humour without Ben Stiller present.
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Well this thread just gave me some jungle fever

Anyone know some good ebony porn to look up?
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>>81171297
If you're gonna bring up OP's post, then this thread was actually about good wonder woman comics.

>tfw WW is so uninteresting everyone would rather talk about some nigger parody comic instead
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>>81174926
You know that people will talk about a picture more than what's written and people that are triggered by that should go elsewhere.
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>>81175091
Only if it's more interesting than the subject. So basically:
Wonder Woman < Wondeisha
Wondyfags suck it
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>>81133605
>Robin with a goddamn fade

Oh my GOD my sides.
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>>81134269
>Captain Cold is Little Richard

This is ACE.
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>>81136067
Darius Rucker, if you like nucountry?
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