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Will Hussie ever tell us what each Aspect in Sburb does? Or

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Will Hussie ever tell us what each Aspect in Sburb does?

Or do we need to wait until Homestuck is over for him to do a Q&A?
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>>81083107
I feel he will distance himself from homestuck to get hiveswap done, then we'll learn about homestuck 2.0, and if all things go at least average, THEN we'll get proper answers. if it leaves a bad taste, it will leave more questions than LOST. (And I understood LOST perfectly, it was my cocaine before HS)
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Breath has nothing to do with freedom, which means it has something to do with incarceration, which is why John liked Con Air so much.

Bravo, Hussie.
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>>81083210
Lost was fucking retarded.
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>>81083426
It was. To the same degree homestuck reaches in act 6, no? A lot of comparisons can be drawn. Seems they both took the same route in the end.
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>>81083481
No. At least Homestuck started off good then slowly went to shit. Lost started off shit and if anything I heard about it was true also ended in shit.
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>>81083517
My bias to the show aside, I think you're at the same level as those who call homestuck shit from the get-go wiithout giving it a chance. Lost was very much the same as homestuck in it's cancerous fanbase on blogspot at the time, shipping galore and mystery upon mystery, layers of bullshit that ended up falling in on itself. It was the biggest thing on TV for a good few years.

If you enjoy homestuck you should really see how they're one in the same in this way.
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>>81083210
>>81083481
>>81083567
What do you think Homestuck could have been like if he'd based it on Heroes instead of Lost?
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>>81083745
Despite watching all of the original heroes I can barely remember anything about it. Prototyping wouldn't effect a ring though, just give your sprite awesome powers. Jack Noir as a more apathetic sylar consuming sprites would be pretty sweet.
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19 more days...
19 more days and it's finally over
I can't fucking believe it
It's like watching your elderly great-grandma die, where you knew it was coming, and it was coming soon, but you never actually expected to happen, because why would you? It's been around for so long you can't imagine that it'd ever stop being there
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DAVEKAT
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>>81084020
>Actually thinking it's going to end on 4/13
Hussie is gonna stretch these updates over the next three months.
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>>81083107
Classpects are arbitrary and are given powers depending on what's necessary to advance the Alpha Timeline. There is no master document about what everything does.
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>>81084041
ROSEMARY

FUCKING GET IT

PARALLELISM LOL
LIKE MIRRORS AND SHIT
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All right, fellas, here's the deal Name ONE thing Homestuck did right.
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>>81084302
Representation of mid 2000s instant messaging relationships. Can't think of anything else that really hit the nail on the head in that department. I also like the whole felt-midnight crew comedy noir setup.

Then again homestuck does have a lot of themes, I just feel that it shines best in noir. (à la problem sleuth)
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>>81084302
The first 4 acts.
An adventure text game parody, although it could be argued Problem Sleuth already accomplished that.
Putting Hussie on 'The Map.'
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>>81084302
How Time Travel works.
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>>81084448
If anything homestuck has shown how multiverse theory and time travel should never mix, and how stable time loops can be so paradoxical that it's not even worth thinking about.

So yeah I think it's pretty accurate
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http://andrewhussie.blogspot.com/2009/03/end-of-problem-sleuth.html

Do you think we will get a newspost like this?
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>>81085056
You think that the guy who sold him that horse painting ever found out about the blog posts where Hussie pretty much calls him a megalomaniacal dumbass that does shit art?
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>>81085056
I wouldn't put it past Andrew to make a news post that's worded almost exactly like that.
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>http://andrewhussie.blogspot.com/2009/11/interrogative-remarks-followed-by.html
>How do you deal with the inability to go back and change details from earlier in the story? Do you ever have good ideas that you have to scrap because of something that happened earlier on?
>This question is related to the one above. It's a non-issue. Once it's cemented in the story, that's it.
Hmmm....
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>>81085200
>megalomaniacal dumbass that does shit art?

guess hussie saw himself in the guy
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>hear megalovania
>cringe myself to death and have to mute the audio
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>>81084302
Pretty much every major [S] page is great. Even if the plot events it's conveying are terrible, the animation and musical synchronization are amazing.
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>>81085364
rofl u mean u had a bad tim XD
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>>81085364
I wonder if Hussie is secretly butthurt that Megalovania will be remembered as an UT song, and that dumb teenage UT fans, who would have been dumb teenage HS fans if they were born 6 years earlier, will claim he stole Radiation's music.
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>>81085364
ironically the undertale version isn't even as good as the homestuck one
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>>81085443
No, because everyone will forget about Undertale by next year.
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>>81085461
Undertale version is better man.
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>>81085462
The thing is, the people who will forget UT will never even know MSPA.
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>>81085443
Why would Hussie care, it's RADIATION's song. He MADE it.
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>>81085517
Good, the Homestuck fandom doesn't need any more cancer.
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>>81085496
wrong, my friend
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>>81085535
everything wrong with UT's fandom is a result of Homestuck's my dude

also the thing is, unlike Homestuck, UT's fandom has ZERO effect on the final product.
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>>81085560
No it's correct buddy.
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>>81085518
Despite his internet persona, I think Hussie does actually want his comic to be popular, and it's probably a bit frustrating that the guy who basically started as just "guy who made HS songs" ended up making an entire project more poplar than his.
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>>81085586
>UT's fandom has ZERO effect on the final product.
Isn't there going to be another game?
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>>81083107
>implying Hussie knows or cares what each aspect does.
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>>81085638
Sure, but that would be a different product. Undertale as it is will forever remain as it is, no matter how bad the fandom gets.
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>>81085685
If you look at the games as a series, then the series as a whole would be affected by the fandom.

Plus, it probably had DLC, no? It's a game from 2015, after all.
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>>81085638
No. There might have been a chance for that but it's easy to see that Toby is disturbed by the fandom he's amassed and probably wants it to die.
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>>81085609
>started as "guy who made HS songs"
Not to be pedantic, but he was semi-well known in the modding community before doing HS songs, and not just for his halloween hack
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Undertale isn't even that good.
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>>81085784
Stop posting Katnep, you fucking wh8re!
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>>81085846
It's alright.
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>>81085846
And Homestuck isn't ANY good.
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>>81085841
I'm not really in the modding community so I can't really say this with confidence, but I feel that his involvement with Homestuck was more, because even people outside the fandom or the "webcomic community" were aware of HS, and even more people are aware of Undertale, even if they never played it (like me, and I suppose most people ITT)
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>>81085848
>whaitre
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I think Karkat/Vriska could have been an interesting ship if it was pushed from Hivebent. It could tie in to both of them being John's patron troll. Maybe Vriska wouldn't have been so shit.
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>>81085865
It had higher highs at the beginning.
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What did Scratch mean by this? I never really understood to what this was referring. It's couldn't have just been Kanaya reviving as a rainbow drinker, since that feels a bit too direct, and not something to be avoided.
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>>81085939
Too bad this ship will never happen.

Enjoy your Davekat or Karezi.

Or hope that Jadekat or Karnaya happens instead.
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>>81085865
it was good until Act 5 started then it was okay until Act 6 shit the bed and now its bad
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>>81086031
>Karnaya
If only....
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>>81086010
Probably had something to do with Gamzee snatching bodies.
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>>81086010
I think it's referencing a bit later on, when they picked up Rose and Dave, and he turned his back on Gamzee and the bodies, which led to Gamzee taking off with them and doing troll god knows what with them.
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>>81086304
Still feels a bit unimportant for such a big warning.

I feel like it has something to do with how Scratch has to kill himself to summon LE, and that the warning was to the reader and not Karkat, but that seems a bit too meta for that part of the story.
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>>81085560
He's right

>>81085443
>Not knowing that Megalovania was originally the EarthBound Halloween Hack song
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>>81085737
No, it didn't. He's said he's done with Undertale and has no plans to make a sequel.
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>>81086488
Scratch wouldn't exactly give a shit about whether or not Karkat kept his eyes on the bodies, given the fact he already knows that Gamzee's going to take off with them, but as a gentleman, he probably felt it prudent for Karkat to know about it, even if he did wrap it in vague bullshit
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Speaking of Undertale...
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Hussie is 37

http://irratio.org/andrew_hussie_formspring_archives.html#andrewhussie1936966625
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>>81087043
Freedom is not an underlying concept Undertale is based around
It is, however, one of the most important aspects of Breath, and anyone who disagrees is a chodehuffing horn fondler
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Gamzee was better as a irrelevant stoner clown instead of lolrandumb game construct to summon Lord English.
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>>81088265
but breath has nothing to do with freedom man
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>>81088265
REMINDER
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>>81088265
Get a load of this guy.
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>>81088265
IRL pic of anon
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>>81088271
Meh, he was OK then, but there really wasn't much of him. If Hussie didn't make him get off sopor and try to realize his dreams, he'd just be another minor character along the lines of Sollux. (Although, Sollux would probably fill in as Karkat's best friend and we'd probably get more stuff with him.)
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Is this picture canon?
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>>81089519
No.
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>>81089519
no, that's not karkat, but yeah 24 wrigglers were ectobiologized in the troll session.
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>>81089519
I just realized
>John, a Breath player, created the kids in the B universe
>Karkat, a Blood player, created the grubs in the A universe
>Neither of the Space players, whose aspect basically stands for creation (and space), didn't make the children
What the fuck?
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>>81089768
Would it not have made sense for a life player to birth the kids/grubs in their respective sessions? Then again, if ectobiology is a near-constant in sburb sessions, then it would be expected that a space or time player should do it seeing as they're integral to the success.

I guess it's just 'cos they're the protagonists of HS and HB.
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Just found this gem on DD's wiki page.

>He acts as a Moirail (or the Dersite equivalent) to Jack, preventing him from committing meaningless genocides.

I remember jack and DD conversing via walkie-talkie at a few points, but this was never implied was it? Fucking wikifags.
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LYIN' VRISKA SERKET

SHE HOLDS THE BIBLE UP
PUTS IT DOWN
AND BEGINS TO LIE
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>>81089902
>gem
Hola Reddit
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>>81089970
Saying gem is reddit now? I'm out of touch.
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>>81089902
I guess they're technically right, as DD did pretty much perform the duties of a moirail (pacified him to keep him from just killing everybody, and is probably Slick's best friend, even if he doesn't realize or want to admit it), but it's like Jack and the BQ, where they don't actually understand the concept, and it just seems simpler to say they just know each other really well
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>>81090008
Yes it is.
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>>81084302
It'd be easier to name the few wrong things it did but ok.

It integrated many of its one-off gags into its actual plot in a way reminiscent of Venture Brothers. That way the jokes have weight and never go into Family Guy "here's a joke and it's not in charater and will never be brought up again"
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>>81084448
Every complicated thing hussie has ever done has been right on the nose imo.
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>>81090107
I will refrain from saying gem in such a way from now on.
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>>81087043
This meme needs to die already
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>>81089902
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005458

CD does a clubs thing at one point too.
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Charles Dutton and his connection to dream bubbles were around a while before hussie started homestuck.
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>>81090326
You can't kill the need to be free
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>>81088345
I never get this picture.

All of these scenes (except the first, which isn't really Rose telling him what to do, but just explaining how SBURB works) are examples where everything fucks up due to John not being free.
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GC: 4NYTH1NG TO G3T YOU TO STOP B31NG SUCH 4 B4BY
CG: WHAT'S A BABY.
GC: OH
GC: 1TS L1K3 4 MYTH1C4L L1TTL3 P1NK MONK3Y
GC: SOM3TH1NG MY LUSUS DR34MS 4BOUT


what did she mean by this?
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>>81090571
it means the dragon is a reverse furry
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>>81090571
It means Terezi is a huge racist and ignores babies of POC (people ordering chicken).
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>>81090469
Exactly. Breath has nothing to do with freedom.
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>>81090786
It just proves that breath has EVERYTHING to do with freedom, because everything fucks up with the Hero of Breath isn't allowed to be free, or that he can only be free once he reaches the end of his personal quest.
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>>81091136
No bro it's got nothing to do with freedom. John hasn't been free for one moment in this story.
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>>81091349
He has been free from the gay singularity.

Then again, he hasn't been free of his crusade to destroy it, so I guess you are right.
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I want to fuck condy.
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>>81091429
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>>81091349
Well, if you want to be technical, nobody in this story's free. Their timelines and shit (and many others) are all under capture of LE
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>>81091447
Yes
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>>81089970

Fuck off.
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>>81091676
Redditor detected.
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>>81091676
sup leddit
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>>81091447
made in like 3 minutes in mspaint
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>>81091714
fuckin great
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>>81091447
Of course. Just look at her and tell me you wouldn't want to fuck her to death.
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>>81091910
Holy shit
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>>81091910
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>>81091910
Colonel Sassacre: living the dream
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>>81091910
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>>81091910
at least post the fullsize
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>>81091910
Here we go again...
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>>81092109
>>81091910
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>>81091714
another, less successful attempt
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>>81092276
>filename
That's Cronus. Eridan is "I wwanna fuck that fishgirl"
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>>81092323
he hit on rose and jade, too.
Cronus wants to be a human
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>>81092276
Needs his scarf and cape
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>>81086051
<> my dude
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>>81092276
How about an Equius
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>>81090199
Man, you dont have to listen to this ass, instead listen to me and do what I say.
You can do whatever you want, you have that Freedom
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>>81092475
Doesn't really seem appropriate. You can make it yourself, it's literally just taking the sprite parts and making them 300% larger. You would probably make them better than I could.

If this thread is alive tomorrow I might try and make some more.
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>>81092041
Twice too
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>>81093520
>>81093520
>filename
This makes me wonder. What do we know about the Japanese homestuck community? Does it even actually exist?
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>>81093555
In small doses, yes.
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>>81092109
>>81092131
>>81092152
Source
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>>81093555
If I remember right, there's quite a few who like it, although there is the whole language thing, plus it's not even that well-known here, much less over there.
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>>81093555
Just a small pack of westaboos who used to do stuff back when it was popular.
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>>81093555
There's westaboos who like it. I've seen them do a lot of Dave/Jade art.
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>>81093555
somebody post the japanese jade/dave rule 34 tablecloth, I can't seem to find it
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>>81093630
redandblacktac
http://redandblacktac.tumblr.com/
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>>81093747
>The crazy thing is, this is an edit of another picture. But the Dave/Jade edit was incomplete. So these people saw the Dave/Jade edit, then tracked down the full picture and then modified that one to be Dave and Jade. And then made it a tablecloth in a sushi restaurant.
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>>81093827
Still amazes me
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>>81093770
>mew
hehehe
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>>81093683
>>81093770
I suppose no one has translations of these?
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>>81093827
Which one is the Naruto
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>>81093996
>sex but with one person's arms thrown behind them
>both have to wear headbands
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>>81093827
better than the one i just saw where dave's got an honest to god micropenis
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>>81093827
>tekokagari
>regular missionary except you get to stare at your partner's asshole
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>>81094297
>that
>regular missionary
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>>81094409
maybe i'm misunderstanding the drawing, but it looks like they are just lying on eachother, except in reverse
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>people who draw John, Rose, Roxy, Jane as Black

Jade and Jake are fine with a tan, but not African American black
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>>81085285
If Hussie had legitimately admitted to fucking up, and gone with a good old actual retcon, I wouldn't have minded so much.
"Hey, I feel like I could have written parts of the story better, namely Terezi and Vriska's arc. Over the next couple weeks I'll make changes to [all these segments] so she lives. Stay tuned."
Something like this, except in his extravagant style.

Sure, it's hard to suck it up and admit your mistakes, and people would have still been pissed (hell, me too, most likely), but it would have been much better than what he did.
And what did he do? A graphical, drawn-out abortion of the comic's current plot.
He wasted time, wasted our patience, wasted the entire GO cast, wasted interesting plot elements. John waved a magic wand, flipping the bird to everything we knew about Paradox Space's rules, just to poof Vriska back into existence.

You know what makes it worse? John doesn't even have strong feelings about Vriska. This shit had no buildup and no emotional impact, because Hussie fucking LOVES his anticlimaxes. Vriska being the "mystery leader" Calliope, Jade and Jane talked about is yet another instance of this.
Maybe he thinks the story being SO META AND SELF-AWARE about all of this bullshit magically makes it acceptable writing. Hell if I know.
In the end it's still an audible "fuck you" to anyone who actually cares about the story and isn't willing to give said bullshit a pass for the sake of Scourge sisters feelsdrama.

Seriously. Fuck Hussie's complete inability to admit his mistakes.
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>>81083517
Nah, try watching the first two seasons. Shit gets you hooked for good reason. But between S2/S3 (and maybe even S1/S2 iirc) there was... maybe an OVA? Whatever it was, when I started a new season, there was a damn good amount of stuff that was either already introduced or already wrapped up with little to no explanation or reference. Or maybe I was just LOST
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>>81094541
>Vriska being the "mystery leader" Calliope, Jade and Jane talked about is yet another instance of this.
the real mystery leader is bubbles von salamancer, tavros is just letting meenah take the ghost army as a distraction while the skeleton army looms.
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>>81094612
What is the greatest scene and why is it demond's intro?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_5ZQW0BCFU

this shit blew my motherfucking mind. if you liked homestuck's revelations lost really is for you.
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>>81085590
8ut you're """"""""wrong""""""""
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>Karkat will never redeem himself by going allah ackbar on Vriska
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>>81084302
Midnight Crew/Felt intermissions were great. Exiles were likable and fun to read about before AR died, then WV just became a quirky pet kept in the background.
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>>81094233
That's Dirk
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>>81094806
>before AR died
never forget
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>>81094841
>Dirk/Jade
>any variation of Bro with Jade
for what purpose
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>>81094672
this was one of the first shows I ever binge-watched (though I guess by now the term is just 'watched'). after this scene I made it through half the season before hunger made me leave my bed.

band of brothers is the other one, in case you're wondering. what's the /co/ equivalent of that?
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>>81084302
SBURB and the lore surrounding it. Remember how Hussie wanted to make a creation myth about kids playing a video game?
He dit it right. So right. It was amazing.
That is, until he dropped the "creation myth" and "video game" parts. All that remains now are some planets and a magic tadpole serving as plot devices while we focus on teen drama and how to beat Lord English.
What a shame.
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>>81084302

>Felt/Midnight Crew
>Caliborn
>Most of the stuff after Act 1, but before Act 5.
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>>81094541
>turns out that the retcon also made it like Game Over, because even though Vriska solved a lot of problems, she wasn't able to get everybody prepared
>cue a montage of them trying to figure out what the problem is
>John eventually gets sick of it and just does to her what she's planning to do to Gamzee (lock her in a fridge and throw her in the ocean) when Terezi's about to stab her
>he leads everybody as a friendleader, and it actually works, because he actually took the time to get everybody's shit sorted out before the fight, instead of just magically expecting them to fight what's basically gods while still freaking out about a lot of shit
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>>81094531
Nah, the non-black-under-any-circumstances characters would be the Strilondes. The Harleyberts can be seen as black much more easily than them.
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>>81085056
>And if at the beginning you told me I would have a group of characters fight a single giant monster every day for almost six months, I would have told you... well, I would have told you that sounds awesome! But then I probably wouldn't have done it. Because I would have known I was going to do it. And what fun would that have been?

Someone go back and tell him.
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>>81094904
>he leads everybody as a friendleader
and karkuck ends up as sex merchandise for a strilonde
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>>81094924
yeah, I mean they only have ties to the racist southern aristocrat
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>>81094672
only now noticing the amount of clues in this scene.

hst, do yourself a favour and watch this show
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>>81091910

No, because she has freckles. Absolutely fucking disgusting.
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still sad moonsetter was wasted on that shitty flash
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>>81094904
>the new timeline just leads to another game over
if this happened all my bitter feelings towards hussie would instantly evaporate
but we all know it won't happen because he won't let himself drag homestuck EVEN MORE.
would have been nice, though.
might as well bring tavros back along with vriska, so he can take up on the 'caring friendleader' role and get a real, tangible, onscreen arc while john focuses on other, greater things.
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>>81094806
>best ship will never become canon
>PM is effectively a non-character by now
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>>81095210
PM has done literally nothing but chase noir through paradox space for 3 years. putting on that ring was so amazing, and it has led to nothing.

she better fucking destroy bec in an act of redemption rather than teamup this time.
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>>81095210
>implying best ship wasn't killed off right as it was being reaffirmed as canon.

Damn, I hate Andrew.
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>>81095163
>>81094904
>John and Tavros steal Karkat's role
FUCK
OFF
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>>81095277
this is how you do guest art right. how the fuck did game over end up looking so terrible.
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>>81095277
Also a good one. Overhwelming majority of Exile ships are good, really. I'd rather see more of these than majority of human and troll ships, frankly, but then the sad truth is that carapaces hardly matter in canon at this point.
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>>81095333
Hussie getting desperate, despite having professional artists he fucking hired
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>>81095352
>tfw no carapacian RTS with units based on chess pieces
>ywn crush prospitian weenies on player planets with a hardened squad of roving dersite rogues
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>>81095494
An RTS is too complex for disabled tumblr whales though.
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>>81095494
>playing derse
Why not just play as the imps and such, seeing as you're going to lose anyway
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>>81095352
You don't get it, can't you see WV is better off as a background prop for trolls and kids? Who even cares about Deristes and Prospitians as actual characters ;_;

I've literally started reading this shit because I liked the exile designs, they reminded me of black mages
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>>81095573
oh, I'm sorry, what side is DESTINED to lose? ahahahahahahaha

*promptly gets obliterated by a player*
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>>81083107
Aspects are as simple as they can be. They are references for basic elements of every game. Space is game board. Time is turns. Light is information. Void is uncertainty. Heart references players. Mind their decisions. Blood is challenge. Breath is interaction. Doom represents rules and Life represent resources. Hope is fictional nature of most of games and Rage is their absurd nature as non-productive activity.

Classes are real bullshit to understand on other hand.
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>>81095055
Moonsetter used to have a very soothing effect on me.
But now my brain obviously associates it with Vriskagram every time I hear it, and instead of helping me chill it just makes me hold my head between my hands and stare blankly at the wall for ten minutes.
Or at least fight the urge to do that.
Kinda makes me want to cry a little, even if it's a stupid thing to be emotional over.

>>81095333
The artists he had already hired were starting to expect financial compensation. (Understandable. Exposure won't pay the bill and being "the guy who drew Karkat drowning in lava" or whatever gives little to no exposure anyway).
But Hussie didn't want to pay them for whatever reason (also understandable if he's on a tight budget because of Hiveswap's series of fiascos).
So he needs to content himself with the more affordable artists and their occasional shit contributions.
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>>81095494
> tfw no carapacian RTS
> not alternian global strategy
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>>81095696
plain gold and purple aside, when the only real times we've seen carapacians in an active session they've been effected by harlequin garb, it's really hard to remember that their unprototyped versions are more akin to pic related
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>>81085905
Waiter, what is a Katnep doing in my soup?!
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Just imagine...
Homestuck without Vriska.
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>>81095784
Breath has nothing to do with interaction
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Happy anniversary of Tavros flipping Vriska the bird!
>tfw it's already been 3 years
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>>81096001
*cums*
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>>81095494
kanaya is ugly
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>>81095925
What is this from?
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>>81096001
>Karkat gets cucked out of his leadership role by fully-realized Tavros
Fuck no
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>>81094531
Remember when people assumed that all of the characters were literally as pale as they appeared and the only debates were if John/Jade were Asian and if Dave was a redhead? I miss those.
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>>81096026
>3 years
What, that shitty comic?
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>>81096054
no idea, ripped it from google images. I'm probably wrong but judging by the art my first thought was maybe the creator's screencap of the finished product of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9CFxMVuDAw
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>>81096097
The only way to make Karkat not get cucked out of his leadership role is to make him the only character.
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>>81094904
>another retcon
Please no, A6 already has a lot of content.
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>>81096101
Who are you to decide how pale are characters?
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>>81096151
Why trolls even respected Karcuck as leader in the first place? He is shitty battler and his plans are fuck ups. They should rely on smart and competent trolls like Vriska or Terezi from the start.
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>>81096178
They are referred to as pale and pink multiple times in the comic. Hussie ignored most of them when he decided the comic was aracial.
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>>81096234
Fuck off, spiderfucker
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>>81096121
That comic was good, its a shame that the artist's tumblr is private now
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>>81096234
>Vriska
>Competent
>Vriska
>SMART
What next, do you think Dave is genuinely cool? Anon, please, that's what she wants you to believe, but she's as dumb as a stump.
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>>81096295
>That comic was good
No, it really wasn't. It wasn't drawn very well, there was nothing but weird OOC melodrama, and they only did it because some family member was molesting it. It's bad on multiple levels. I mean, what's the point of it if the characters literally act nothing like their comic counterparts, in any actual way.
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>>81096263
WOW, NOT MY PROBLEM THAT I LOVE ARANEA'S JUICY THIGHS!
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what did she mean by this?
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>>81096349
I fapped to it
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>>81096428
She yiffed it.
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>>81095696
I remember when this flash came out. My internet was down, so I had to find a suitable public wifi place just to watch it. I remember sitting in that Bojangles, looking giddy as fuck watching that flash. I played it a bunch of times after that day just to hear the music.
Act 4 and Act 5 had some god tier flashes.
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>>81096335
> she's as dumb as a stump.
Any examples of that supposed dumbness?
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>>81096428
There's only one thing to do when you're depressed and there's no one around.
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>>81096513
All of her attempts at making Tavros confident only broke him even more because she's hilariously incompetent at being adjacent to other people.
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>>81096363
T H I G S
H
I
G
S
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>>81096428
That Davesprite broke up with her because Jade is a sexual deviant
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>>81096505
definitely a GOAT flash

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003701

really makes me hate how the focus shifted from a normal sburb session to the whole lord english troll storyline. hussie really needs to explore the battlefield more at some point, and give us a comprehensive list of archagents and other carapacian details. not in homestuck's lifetime obviously, but it's good shit.
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>>81096600
>T H I G S
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>>81096513

Claimed The Felt aren't worth thinking about in her battle plans. They have a fair share of retards but they mix quite well with the insane threats. I'm hoping Cans alone punts a few vitally important people across time and ruins the battle immediately.

"Where's John?"

"Ah, you know. A week from now."
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>>81096734
I have a really bad feeling hussie's going to trap them in the oven somehow. then again, cascade blew us all away with the amount of shit that happened, so you never know, it is going to be the END of homestuck. I think we're all a little too pessimistic these days.
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>>81096779
Clover is too lucky to be trapped in the oven.

Unless being trapped in the oven is what saves all of the Felt from certain demise.

Then I guess The Felt aren't in the comic anymore.
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>>81096642
>“In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity”
> - Sun Tzu
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>>81095784
Breath is Breath. Although sometimes it overlaps with concepts like "motivation" and "negative capability."
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>>81096779
There's lots to be pessimistic about
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>>81096513
She doesn't understand a single thing about the way people work, as >>81096564 helpfully point outs. Remember, she thought Kanaya had a crush on Tavros.
Her recent strategic decisions were mediocre at best and ridiculous at worst - she put Jake up against a gang of enormous time-traveling mobster leprechaun and their new stab-happy leader.
She knew about Tavrosprite's allergies, but didn't bother to ask him about how bad they were before she literally made him part cat. (Merging your favorite abuse victim with a uninhibited space-warping creature probably isn't such a clever idea either.)
Hell, she could have had Tavrosprite control GCAT, or done a double psychic reacharound again and put it to sleep with Tavros's powers, but she didn't.
And way before that, she didn't even consider her fairy trail would bring Jack to the meteor. Which wouldn't have been so bad... except Terezi POINTED IT OUT, and she COMPLETELY ignored it.
The list goes on and on and on. Her plans only work through blind luck, if they work at all. Her competence is just a fragile facade built upon everybody else's failures and her magical ability to get away with every inane decision she takes.
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>>81097004
Where are her ears
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>>81097475
The ears are right there on her head stupid.
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>>81097664
Those are a headband
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>>81094541
>that newspost after the first year of hiveswap's alleged development
>he completely avoids describing the fact they had to start from scratch
>the only indicator is mentioning they bought new computers
>doesn't even apologize for the delay, or anything, ever
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>>81084408
I still don't get it. Is it Loss?
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>>81097714
Yes? And?
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>>81097937
In that timeline, both of the harlequin's arms were cut off, meaning that when Jack tries to put on the ring, his arms, and, subsequently, his fingers, disappear, meaning he's unable to wear the ring.
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>>81097937
the picture? it's from this paradox space comic.

http://paradoxspace.com/prototyped/1
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>>81098022
>>81098041
looking back, some of the paradox space comics were pretty good.

it's been 2 years already?
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>>81098182
Paradox Space ran the entire gamut of quality. It's just that the bad comics are so distracting.
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>>81098317
>the KC Green SBAHJ comics
Sweet Jesus and Hella God, just kill me and get it over with
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>>81098182
And there are some comics that are just... GARBAGE
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>>81098440
The only comic I actually did not read was the Ancestor gristmas exchange. That comics art and writing were so bad that I, a humongous homestuck fan, couldn't not bear to read it
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>>81098182
This comic would have been more interesting if it hadn't boiled down to "hah, look at Eridan, he's a creep, Vriska is a totally badass, normal and balanced person so she's well placed to teach him a lesson".
Anyway, every PXS not written by Hussie is OK at best and abysmally bad at worst. Sure, it was discontinued, but nothing of value was lost.
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>>81098499
I started skipping the last few months of comics (besides Summerteen Romance)
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>>81098499
I stopped following it when it stopped making sense. It seemed to be about multiple things at once but I was too stupid to follow the story.
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>>81098513
Every Feferi by Zack was the cutest thing I've ever saw, even if he did make her a shortstack.
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Who /crowbar/ here?

Waiting on part two for fucking ages now. Wait a second, could the felt who were dead at act 3 intermission start paradoxically have just been the versions of the felt that slick pulled into existence as robojack in the current timeline? That would be pretty cool.
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Does anyone have a similar picture, but where Jaspers holds Roxy?
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>>81098499
I skipped the damara story based on that horror manga.

The combo of "hey remember when the beforus trolls where drawn as Japanese high school students in the calendar"
combined with referencing TOMIE just made the whole thing feel so incredibly lazy.
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>>81098890
that one was embarrassing, putting a trigger warning for a vague reference to sexual assault
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>>81099010
>put an actual fucking trigger warning for "violence"

>second comic on paradox space was Dualscar having his head chopped off
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>>81099010
Especially WHERE they put it.
>THIS IS THE SCARY PAGE, PLEASE PREPARE YOURSELF FOR A FRIGHTEN.
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>>81099074
reminds me of those shitty top 10 lists that some clickbait sites do
>"you won't BELIEVE number six!!"
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>>81099010
and later when people got "triggered" by tavros popping a boner they had to reuse the sexual assault trigger warning because no one that worked on paradox space seem to have any website programming experience.
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>>81099010
>That time they had to censor Tavros because it was "disturbing"
>That time they censored Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff wearing lipstick for "transphobia"
Fucking hell, Hussie, you made Humanimals. Get your balls back and tell the pussies to fuck off.
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>>81099281
>>That time they censored Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff wearing lipstick for "transphobia"
wait what
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>>81099368
they removed the lipstick hella jeff was wearing in summerteen romance because a single person on twitter suggested to the artist it might be maybe construed as transphobic
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>>81099281
>That time they censored Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff wearing lipstick for "transphobia"
this pissed me off a lot more than the tavros censor. at least they made up for that with dave spewing some random bullshit, which felt pretty natural.

the only saving grace is the original page is still available with sbahj makeup included

>>81099368
pic related
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Remember when hussie made that really shitty anime lord english joke and people got butthurt immediately and he had to apologize and say that "no im not making fun of this image"? I think it was within a few weeks of a similar bullshit he had to speak up about.
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>>81099281
Do I want to know what Humanimals is?
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>>81099610
I guess he assumed the original artist was long gone. This is what people here would consider 'old hussie' though. I think it was a cool lighthearted jab at deviantart as a whole. The fact that people found the original image just shitted up the whole situation. It's the only liked image on caliborn's deviantart page though if I recall.
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>>81099610
i remember that
remember when he implied he can take the designs of whatever fanart he sees because it's of his characters
>>
Even with the [TRIGGER WARNING] stuff, Summerteen Romance is still one of the best stories on PS.
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>>81099435
I sort of like how nektan and mierfa have become the go-to for generic troll cameos. they were even in hiveswap art, right?
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>>81099847
what are their named again? I remember in ye olden times referring to them as sports madden and herpus derpus

I recall another time we planned on pooling 10K to get eridan ampora in again
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>>81099925
>herpus derpus
that's a completely different fantroll
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>>81100000
I really like this get
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>>81099826
>chubby feferi
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>>81100000
nice quints

My favorite fantroll was shisno hodaad from MSPAchan
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>>81099074
COME IN IF YOU DARE
YOU'RE IN FOR A SCARE
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>>81100083
Why do they have bionicles on their feet?
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>>81100083
>all the links are dead apart from an archived snapshot
glad the autism has been snapshotted for eternity, but sort of sad I missed out
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>>81100180
MSPAchan was the perfect mix of hsg insanity and MSPAF informed actual discussion.
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>>81099610
Eye-scar plus Sepulchritude plus overcoat made such a perfect deviantart Anime Lord English. I don't even know how he would have beaten that.
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>>81100180
>glad the autism has been snapshotted for eternity
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>>81096902
Pretty. This is a nice thread.

Also I can't help but notice the lack of bowmanon.
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>>81099826
I really how lighthearted the actual story and interactions were, seeing characters like Nepeta and Vriska interact vicariously was interesting. I was also impressed at how damning future Karkat's additions were at the end, Karkat needs a boot up the arse like that in the actual adventure.
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>>81086010
There have been a lot of times that characters shouldn't have turned their backs on the bodies and it's never made sense to me for him to be talking about just one instance.

It's almost like he's giving a warning on a meta-level rather than just to the one person.
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>>81099826
>Story by Zack Morrison
Aight who is this guy and why isn't he becoming the next Toby Fox?
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>>81100935
pretty sure morrison is generally more famous than radiation though
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>>81100935
He is the guy from Paranatural.
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>>81097032

This famiglia.

She's shit as a leader.
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>>81098681

Wait, what is this gorgeous art about the Felt? Have I missed something about my favorite frog leprechaun goblins?
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>>81096253
Just not the one definite reference to how white someone is.
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>>81094541
Honestly Hussie's dedication to his ironic internet cool kid persona has only harmed the comic. It works fine when you're just a guy writing a silly internet cartoon, but when you're a guy handling 2.5 million of your fans' donated money, you have to be a little more open and frank about things. Shit, if he addressed that the game had been having behind the scenes troubles and the extent of his personal family issues in a more upfront way with his fans, I imagine less of them would've just left when he stopped updating for like a year. Now the comic is dying, interest in the game has waned, he's clearly unhappy with the story he wrote himself into, yet he's completely adamant in pretending everything is fine.
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>>81100978
>more famous than radiation
Nobody is more famous than radiation at this point anon, have you seen how damn popular is Undertale? I mean just look at the view count here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2jVbSI9H4o
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>>81101095
http://www.paradoxspace.com/the-inaugural-death-of-mister-seven/1

pretty much the best paradox space comic bruh.

>>81101127
this makes me unironically salty
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>>81100935

He's a guy who drew a pretty decent comic about kids fighting ghosts.

THEN he said he wants to make his comic unpalatable to 4chan, so he started adding tumblr stereotypes left and right

THEN he started stretching out his stories - what literally was supposed to take 30 minutes in-comic time took a YEAR
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>>81101157

I'm the annoying cunt who force-sped his way through this comic to get to the good parts about Caliborn, because everything else about this comic is shit.

What is Paradox Space (the comics, not the thing inside the comic), and should I give a shit?
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>>81101231
>What is Paradox Space (the comics, not the thing inside the comic), and should I give a shit?
from the summary itself.

>The comics on this site are all inspired by the story Homestuck, by Andrew Hussie. The comics will hop all over the prodigious universe and canon storyline of Homestuck, featuring the characters, various hypotheticals, hilarious antics, doomed timeline scenarios--it's wide open. The site updates every weekday.

All in all, the thing is worth reading for a few good jokes here and there, interesting stories and some pretty good references. There are some really bad comics but they're 6 pages tops. You could read them all in like, one night.

The crowbar one linked was written by hussie himself, so if you're going to only read one, make it that one.
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>>81101195
what a fucking cunt, he deserves pic related so much
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>>81101231
Paid fanfiction
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>>81100721
>It's almost like he's giving a warning on a meta-level rather than just to the one person.
Hee hee.
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>>81101296
>>81101319

Now before I get my dick all nice and erect, are ALL the comics this good, or is it that someone got particularly lucky on this Felt comic, and the rest of them, like the rest of Homosuck is pure, unadulterated shit?
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>>81101195
>the whole twitter post about /co/

Zack went from hero to zero in a flash.
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>>81101376
A good amount of the comics focus on things and characters that didn't get much attention in comic, such as the exiles and other various side characters. There are some really unexpected artists in some of them too, Matt from three panel soul made a dersite comic. (a favorite of mine) there's barely any boring character drama and it's more quips/jokes, so at least it won't bore you like act 5 did
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>>81101406
good god

what did they do to him
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>>81101376
Read the Felt one and Summerteen Romance, ignore the rest.
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>>81101599
He turned from a hipster to a numale.
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Hunting Lesson: The epitome of what PXS should have been.

>Nice and short, doesn't spend a month telling some shitty bloated story
>Goes over events that very well could have happened off-screen, doing a great job of fluffing out characters and situations that didn't get enough screen time in the main comic
>hey it's nep!
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>>81099281
>>81099435
Man Fucks His Own Fanbase and What’s of It Is So Overwhelming, Everyone’s in Tears
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>>81099435
Yeah, I honestly think the Dave bullshit is funnier than the original. But I don't really see the point of that change.
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>>81101376
Felt is good
Summerteen romance is fun (the framing device is that it's a so-bad-it's-good movie script written by Karkat and being read/snarked about by Dave)

Pretty much the rest is shit
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>>81092323
Eridan has pretty much no standards. The only person that he thinks of as too shit, even for him, is Cronus, and even then he still says "yes"
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>>81101406
I love how much Hussie is such a naturally goofy-looking dude. The beard's not bad as well.
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>>81101406
why is ipgd taunting us
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Who is the homestuck equivalent to Presidential Candidate and Republican front-runner Donald J. Trump?
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>>81103376
vriska
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>>81103376
The Condesce.
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>>81103376
Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope
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>>81103376
John E.
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>>81103314
whatever happened to ipgd
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>>81102666
Which is sad, because his one true love was staring kind of off to the side and at him all this time.
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>>81103376
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>>81103599
Why did Hussie have to make John racist?
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>>81103652
John is the only thing preventing humanity from disappearing into a singularity of gay trollfucking. He will make the human race great again.
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I have spent the past like 2 hours trying to find the dude who made Shisno Hodaad. I'm going nuts here trying to find him.

Anyone have any idea who where or WHAT this guy is?
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>>81104524
probably just some random dude on mspachan. guy on deviantart says he knows the guy, but that was probably through pesterchum seeing as those threads were pretty popular back when. good luck finding somebody specific on pesterchum though.

it's been 5 years though, why do you care?
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RIP, March 2009 issue of Gamebro

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scraps/gamebro_march.jpg
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>>81104729
when did this happen
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>>81104708
I loved the threads there. Mostly just wanted to see if the dude ever made anything else.
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>>81104821
I dunno, I was going through Act 2 today and the link to that page was broken
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>>81103652
Because every media needs at least one relatable character for every kind of person on the audience, in this case this is why a lot of people here love John "I'm not a Homosexual" Egbert
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Herpus Derpus
Glades Plugin
Shisno Hodaad
Mierfa Durgas
Thepur pleone (Its nekta something)

who else am I missing
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>>81105035
does Tholluxth count? or was it just Thollux
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>>81105035
>Thepur pleone (Its nekta something)
nektan whelan
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>>81105035
Kielle Urself
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>>81099624
>Do I want to know what Humanimals is?
u fucking wot m8
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>>81101406
>green sucker
DEEPEST POTTERY
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>>81101876
Amen to that fraternal kinsperson
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>>81105565
disgusting
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>>81105565
>davepeta is a thing that happened
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>>81105810
>there are people that believe davepeta is not only good, but the best character in the comic
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>>81105810
such a great thing. Dave finally got to become Akwete Purrmusk, the neon catbird thing with six tits
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>>81105939
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>>81105810
>>81105869
>There are people whose beliefs are on the contrary
>In the current year

Come, lay down your shitposts. It is not too late for my mercy.
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>>81105869
>there are people that are willing to defend Davepeta's existence
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>>81106010
why are the cats on arquisprites side?
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I forgot how funny this comic can be.
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why
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>>81106112
idunno guess cats like horses or sumsh

>>81106026
>there are people who don't
What's the exact cause of your hate? It's not like Dave could be any worse; he was already a peasant-tier shit-creek character to begin with! what will most likely horrify you is that I'm not even joking m8!
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>>81106278
>huh alright thats a weird Rosalin...thing but whatever
>ARquis has the meme skin condition
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>>81106270
remember when feminazis tried to push the narrative that karkat's 'stop playing games for girls' was implying that FLARPing was a dangerous game and usually played exclusively by females and thus females are the stronger more dominant sex?
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>>81106278
Cal is the only good thing in that picture
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>>81104920
most of the image links are broken
if you go to the kickstarter and go down to the god tier donation levels, they're not there anymore, and a lot of the pictures that were on Hussie's blog are gone as well
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What was Hussie going for with this?
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>>81106551
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>>81106270
>when you only have /v/ to rely on for help
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>>81106541
what's missing from the kickstarter page?
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>>81106551
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>>81106541
I remember in ye olden days we would be losing our shit over this being evidence of a large update!

Also this comic!
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>>81106541
Also the banner to the Paradox Space website isn't there anymore. The link is, but it's just a broken image.

>>81106677
We already know there's a large update coming numbnuts
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>>81106677
I actually don't think I have the rest of these. or 1/19.

anyone have em?
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>>81106541
At least the tinyurl links still work.
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>>81106623
this part
the part in blue that says "GOD TIER REWARD LEVEL"
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>>81106807
oh those flashing altar things
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I'll say one last thing.
Though the magnitude of the ensuing destruction resulting directly from your actions will be neither possible or necessary for you to fathom, there nevertheless ought to be a silver lining.
The only question is whether you will live long enough to see it.
I'm not a gambling man.
But if I was, I wouldn't bet on it.
Goodbye.
AG: Zzzzzzzz. 8ye, assh8le.

what did scratch mean by this?
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>>81106677
http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/pregnantvriska/library/kids%20and%20fun?sort=2&page=1
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>>81106922
He wouldn't bet on Vriska living long enough to see the good side to her stupid-ass plan. It's pretty straightforward, anon.
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>>81107803
I mean the silver lining. I'm assuming its related to her creating bec noir but maybe im missing something obvious that would make more sense to be considered positive for Scratch or Vriska
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>>81107881
I'm guessing it's related to the whole "creating the green sun" thing that was going on
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004196

>I am literally karkat in this situation when given the slightest opportunity to talk about homestuck

This honest to god looks like a chat convo I can find on my skype within the past week.
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Will Hussie ever create something that tops And It Don't Stop?
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>>81083745
Literally no difference. Heroes uses the standard time travel gimmicks, with bad alternate futures where everyone dies and parallel selves from those futures, ontological paradoxes where something ends up creating itself, erasing people from time, and various other people with X-men-like superpowers.

The one thing Heroes does do that Homestuck doesn't do is temporal gaslighting, which is weird because Chrono Trigger does it and that's a direct inspiration.
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>>81108475
>temporal gaslighting
wha
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>>81109560
I think they mean when you change the past, but have to present it as though it's the same so you don't remove your motivation for going back in time in the first place.
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I can stream some Homestuck MEP if anyones interested.
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>>81109560
This guy >>81109656 is right on the money. Heroes and Chrono Trigger do this all the time, but in Homestuck, Dave never thinks to switch his dead future self with a Davebot or something, and instead just sees it set in stone that Jack will kill him or else the timeline becomes doomed and everyone dies anyway.

Despite Hussie saying he wanted to include as many time travel gimmicks as possible in Homestuck, this one is never included and I don't understand why.
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>>81110684
I'm guessing the "this thing that you thought was a thing was actually another thing, and everything turns out fine" plot/gag seemed played out to him
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>>81110684
He's saving it for something big.
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>>81110780
if it came up at this late stage, it would just raise the question of why they didn't use that technique for a bunch of other things
so I'm hoping it doesn't happen
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>>81111357
I can think of one good in-universe reason why it might have been critical to not use that technique yet.
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>>81112234
what is it?
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>>81106270
>you now realize that Doc Scratch wasn't the reason why Vriska crippled Tavros
>It was Karkat who planned everything to shut down Tavros for good
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>>81112270
Caliborn can see anything the reader sees.
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I hope Grimbark Jade actually gets a fight.
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>>81112781
Oh shit wait did Grimbark still happen in this new timeline
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>trawling old homestuck videos
>find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QkQeXDWBwM
man it's been a while, i remember when i cared about karkat as much as that anon that keeps calling him a cuck
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>>81108424
>People who just keep talking at you when it's clear you don't give a shit

I loathe you.
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>>81112962
But he is a cuck for knowing that Gamzee fucked Terezi behind his back.
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>>81114161
STOP
POSTING KATNEP!!!!!!!!
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>>81112846
Briefly, before Vriska put her to sleep.
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>still no fanart of Caliborn dressing as M. Bison
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What if Eridan had an enlarged frontal lobe?
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>>81115806
What if hsg wasn't obsessed of turning Eridan into a shitty meme?
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>>81089768
>>81089838

Kind of late but I figured it was because they were each the first in their narratives to enter their specific session of SGRUB/SBURB.
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Your threadly reminder that 2 MILLION UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DOLLARS
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>>81106541
Just a while ago the links to Hussie's magical journey through internet surveys were working just fine, but it broke like, a week ago.
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scraps/oldblog/magicaljourney.htm
Something weird is going on.
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>>81115868
impossible
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Sometimes I go back and watch [s] WV:Ascend on and imagine what Homestuck could have been.
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Bowman?
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>>81116236
Don't we all
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>>81116236
>no trolls
>Bec Noir has always been the main villain with Lord English being the secret final boss
>Dave and Rose would have been good characters
>the awesome plot twist reveals the guardians as kids (Jane, Jake, Roxy, Dirk)
>no trolls
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>>81116586
this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

how can these people exist?
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>Karkat always picks fucking Krabby instead of a cool pokemon like Scizor
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>>81117604
>Talking shit about Kingler and Glock Lobster
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When will Hussie turn Homestuck into an action shonen with fighting scenes full of crazy superpowers?
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>>81116586
At least galasticat admitted that their Karkat doesn't resemble Karkat in the least?
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>>81084302

The music
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>>81117670
>Houses reaching up to Skaia
What the shit? YOU FUCKERS ONLY NEED TO BUILD UP TO THE SEVENTH GATE. THIS IS A WASTE OF GRIST.
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>>81118385
no you gotta build up to skaia to put down that oil rig remember?
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>>81106278
>the literal same genes as their alternate selves
>looking like entirely different people, phenotype-wise
ree etc
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>>81118434
no you're misremembering, you gotta sit around while the sprites do all the actual work
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>>81113082
they're weird alien bug people that reproduce like ants/bees, having more than one "lover" is normal to them, as long as it's in a different form of romance
What Karkat should've protested was that he was hogging Terezi all to himself, and that it was his best friend hating his matesprit. Shit's wack, yo
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>>81118482
but it's still not a waste of grist even if you're not the one doing the work senpai
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>>81118482
>implying sitting back and letting somebody else do all the busywork is bad
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Will we get another strife moment?
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>>81118513
Yeah, but the troll love system is fucking stupid and is guaranteed to give someone cuckolding feels.
>"What if his blackrom lover is better than me?"
>"He spends more time with his matesprit than with me..."

Oh right, and Hussie teaching his shitty audience that polygamy works and doesn't cause any drama at all.
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>>81119765
to be fair, I'm sure troll thrive on drama

Don't know if it's shitty writing or intentional, but every troll, even the adults, acts like a teenager
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>>81113082
>>81118513

But isn't it basically stated that Karkat wanted Terezi in all the quadrants, not just as a matesprit?

So technically Gamzee 'stole her away' from him too. Quotation marks because even if Gamzee was out of the picture, I'm doubtful she would have dated Karkat in any quadrant.

Man, the Karezi drama was an anticlimax. There was so much build up to it and then it came to nothing, basically acknowledged as a mistake by the characters and the narrative itself. It should have been kept as a simple tsundere type romance, instead of bringing in Dave, Jade and Gamzee into the overly complex love quadrangle.

Homestuck should have ended at a Cascade-like point (except change the twist from 'Lil Cal is LE' to 'Bec Noir is LE', it simplifies the plot a whole lot), ending with everyone meeting and some kind of reveal as to the nature of paradox space. No dreambubbles, no alpha kids. Endgame ships are implied only.
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>>81118481
It was always kind of weird to me how everyone's alternate selves that got actual normal lives always ended up becoming super successful and legendary. I could imagine a hypothetical player who has trouble with indecision on his life goals finding his scratched self living an entirely ordinary life, or getting drafted into a war and dying, or just vanishing from legend because he never did anything of note.
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>>81119765
Polygamy probably works better in a culture where there is no concept of family or marriage. It's not like trolls move in with their matesprits from what's in canon. They seem to just go on dates forever.
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>>81119880
It was already shit anyway when their MOM3NT happened offscreen. It was just Hussie pandering to early Karezi shippers.
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>>81120354
>pandering to early Karezi shippers

I think he wrote those characters with the intention of having a romantic subplot between them basically since they were introduced. It's not really pandering just because you don't like the ship.
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>>81094541
That's even more retarded
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>>81119765
Eh, it sort of works for the trolls for the trolls because they don't really have a concept of marriage and children and shit, so if you break it off with someone, you can always find someone new
It's true that they might feel like they're being ignored or underappreciated or start to get paranoid about the other person cheating on them, but that's going to happen in any relationship, polygamous or otherwise, due to the fallibility in human... troll... sentient and sapient being nature.
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are having fantrolls a bad thing
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>>81121758
Not inherently. Depends on what type of fantroll.
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>>81106270
Why did Tavros randomly message Karkat here instead of trying to contact Aradia or Terezi again?
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>>81121962
Hussie is a hack
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>>81121918
Is this a good fantroll
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>>81121962
Because Tavros is fucking shit at choosing good friends
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>>81122291
yes that's fine
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>>81121918
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>>81122543
Trousers are too played out though I applaud the creator for at least keeping design to a minimal.
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>>81122586
t-thanks
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>>81121962
He probably just clicked on the first name he saw, he WAS lying at the bottom of a cliff he was just mind-controlled to jump off of, discretion isn't exactly a luxury he could afford right then
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>>81121962
Most likely they were still distracted by Scratch and hadn't responded yet. If they had he'd have talked to them. Karkat was probably the last option.
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>>81122543
how does he see
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>>81122729
>>81122759
>>81122484
>>81122046
I guess these make sense. Tavros just never talks to him again so I thought it was weird.
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>>81121758
>>81121918
an old fantroll me and another mspaf user made together is the first thing that appears when you google my old handle despite me having used the handle since 2006 all over the internet.

I never asked for this
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>>81122843
They do talk in a memo later on, after he's 'made peace' with Vriska on LOMAT. But otherwise, yeah.
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>>81122794
he tilts his head back
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>>81122794
He uses a periscope, duh. How else does one see around corners?
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>>81122843
Headcanon: Karkat actually hates the shit out of Tavros
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I thought things were really heating up at this point, but I vividly remember hating the countless vriska pesterlogs around this time too. Why trolls, whyyyy????
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>>81123945
>vriska pesterlogs
It's to make you ship John/Vriska and realize she is a psychopath.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>81124179
Life finds a way.
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HAIL THE WALL OF TRUTH

KATNEP FOREVER
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You know, back in 2012 I wished that megalovania had gotten some more remixes and thought it had been ignored.
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>>81124580
Too bad the music is now shitty cringe tier for giving you homestuck memories
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>>81124625
FUCK
Reading old pages gives my chest fucking pangs
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>>81083107
>it will all be over in a few days

I am filled with both profound sadness and sheer relief.
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>>81124365
>wanting Karkat/Vriska red or pale
>shoving Meowrails and KarKan in your chart randomly
>shiping Kanaya/Aradia when they had zero interaction
dumb catposter
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>>81124625
I had dropped Homestuck but the Undertale soundtrack brought me back to it.

I was hit by nostalgia when I heard the UT version of Megalovania. But now I've listened to the HS music so much it can't bring those feelings anymore. I guess I'll find it again in a few years after this is all over.

And the Undertale version of Megalovania just makes me think of bad time memers.
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>>81083107
It really is surprising Hussie never capitalized on a "Big Ass Guide to Sburb".

Could have been written in Rose's perspective or something, like she did it in her spare time while she was building John's house into a huge tower, maybe? Have some blurbs from other characters. Don't know if anyone ever read pic related but it was really funny, just because it really felt like it was written by the characters.

In the end I doubt Hussie gave much thought to Sburb or how it works, since he knew that the narrative would be ignoring the majority of that bullshit anyway.
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>>81125073
holy fucking shit i remember this book
i had it in my backpack for like the majority of 2nd or 3rd grade and would show it to all my friends
it was a riot
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>>81124738
>expecting all of homestuck to be released at once
>not stretching it out for ad revenue
>not stretching it out to fuck with live readers
>not stretching it out for padding out time so hivebent seems less far away
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>>81125073
>It really is surprising Hussie never capitalized on a "Big Ass Guide to Sburb".

Not really. Something like that would almost certainly have to be written after Homestuck was finished. It would probably contain at least minor endgame spoilers. And like you said, Hussie probably hasn't even put much thought into the inner workings of Sburb unless they are relevant to the story. It's pretty clear it was all just made up as he went along.
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>>81125073
Hussie hasn't cared about Sburb in five years.
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>>81123306
It's not really headcanon when he hates the shit out of everybody
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>>81125757
I think the only SBURB related update in recent times is the grist rigs being activated.
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>>81115982
luckily some kind soul saved it
http://archive.is/k8x5I
Looks like he just deleted most of the content of /scraps/ either that or it's just down for a while
also, does anyone know if that robots.txt has been there for a long time?
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>>81124179
John is an actual wizard. Though he'd probably just say he's a magician and the terminology is important.
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>>81116581
More like
>The trolls are still there
>They're off screen all the ride
>Guiding the kids just so they can win where they failed
>We never get a glimpse of them and we are left speculating what are they like
>Even more misery to this already mysterious lore
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>>81126347
Even then it doesnt make sense because the grist would only be released when you killed your denizen. I hope the man knows what hes doing.
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>>81125606
Yeah, but it'd still be nice, even if he has to wait until the end. A lot of people have been asking for it for so long, and he's about to run out of time to do it.
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>>81128011
homestuck's biggest flaw is focusing on what's abnormal in a session rather than what's par for the course. we know more about what shouldn't happen and various anomalies than how things should be.

hussie needs to clear it all up one day
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>>81127973
Players can convince the denizens to release their hoard. If he really wanted to bullshit it he can say that the Echidna can convince the other denizens.
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RIP in piece Scraps.

You were a good friend.
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>>81128087
>Echidna can convince the other denizens.
That's the most hamfisted, half-assed excuse to get out of players meeting their denizens ever. No version of Rose has ever met Cetus, and now likely never will.
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>>81128450
Exactly, it's the sort of thing Hussie would write nowadays.
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>>81116346
Micguy bowman is my favorite troll
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>>81128525
>what jade wants
>death.png
You mean
>dave.png
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>>81128525
>Four ears
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>>81129015
>six nipples
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>>81129015
It can happen
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>>81128771
>just one dave
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>>81129015
Turns out combining yourself with a dog fucks you up!
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>>81128771
nah. pre-retcon jade was tempered by heartbreak and rage. post-retcon jade was tempered by sorrow and patience. both are way too pure to get involved with dave again.
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>>81129413
More proof that furries are unnatural.
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>>81129467
>post-retcon jade was tempered by sorrow and patience

Please, three years alone didn't make her just sad, it made her very lonely. She's probably even more desperate and wants to be held and have nobody leave her alone ever again.
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>>81129570
>Jade/Dirk happens
>Jade/Rose happens, Jade beats the shit out of Rose
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>>81129750
Jade doesn't date shit characters silly.
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>>81129766
Which is exactly why she's not gonna date Dave.
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>>81129750
>Jade/Rose happens, Jade beats the shit out of Rose
I'm honestly hoping this happens in the comic.
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>>81129784
Dave's only a little shit thanks to this latest act, not full on shit for a while like Rose or Dirk
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>>81129467
Post-retcon Jade really wants to see her friends and never got to experience romance beyond the handjob she gave Dave during the frog hunt. You can bet she wants to get her girldick wet. Even gay Dave thought so.
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>>81129947
Gay Dave is sexually attracted to anything with or without kinetic energy though, so his opinion is irrelevant.
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>>81130100
Yeah but he's talking about what he thinks Jade wants to bang, not what he wants to bang.
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>>81128077

Am I the only one who thinks Homestuck would have been worse if the sburb session went as normal? The crazy plot is part of HS's appeal and having the original Sburb plot would have been kind of dull. 'Kill the black king' would have been a really predictable way to go.

It might work for a episodic TV series that was more focused on side stories, but even then the sburb would only be a background, because on it's own it's not all that interesting.

What's interesting about sburb is seeing how many ways it can differ, what the planets and classpects and prototypings are . Showing a successful beta kid session would never have been enough for that.
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>>81130490
No, I agree with you. Dream bubbles were a mistake, though.
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>>81130490
>The crazy plot is part of HS's appeal and having the original Sburb plot would have been kind of dull. 'Kill the black king' would have been a really predictable way to go.
you're right, but you only feel that way in retrospect. homestuck would be a cherished part of internet history if it was 4 years shorter and weaved a world in a contained and streamlined manner.

That's not to say that contextual changes have to be forgone, for instance, jack noir could have stolen the ring at a much later date, becoming the surprise end game villain, bec still could have been prototyped. That was enough of a wild ride from what was expected.
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>>81130695
>Dream bubbles were a mistake, though.
There's probably a way to have them without making death feel totally cheap, but that's kind of what they did.
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>>81130843
Yeah, the original stuff where they were, yknow, dreamlike was great. But the fact that no one can ever die, which was the motivation for Feferi creating them, is the cancer that killed Act 6.
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god i hope he writes a "the science of homestuck" to complement his PS one
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What is some actually good stuff in Act 6?
Like the meteor corpse party, or Caliborn drawing shitty manga.
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>>81131028
Penis ouija
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>>81130707
I'm not sure if Homestuck would have been remembered much at all unless the story went the way it did. Maybe as a 'hidden gem', but it only really became a thing when trolls were introduced.

As for your second point, I'm pretty sure the story was meant to be close to it's end when Jack got the ring. Some of Hussie's statements from the time imply it. But then along came ectobiology, and Hussie got the idea for the scratch and the rest of A5's plotline. Which was good, imo, but it lead to act 6 which is not so good.
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>>81131187
>but it only really became a thing when trolls were introduced.
that is actually true, the data proves it.

>and Hussie got the idea for the scratch and the rest of A5's plotline
yeah he said that on his formspring at one point I think? it's why act 5 act 2 felt sort of rushed because he wanted to get to the scratch. unfortunately the comic blew up bigtime at that point, moreson than act 5 act 1 and it sort of hamstrung act 6 from the get-go.

it really is a shame.
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Even though Act 5 has some severe pacing issues, it's got a lot of my favorite moments in all of Homestuck, and in the end the plot comes together nicely for Cascade.
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>>81131281
>severe pacing issues,
I agree except for this. Act 6's pacing is 100x worse.
But yeah, it was good for several reasons, one being that there was a tangible threat and an ominous countdown to something, instead of the vagueness of LE (who hasn't even showed up since Caliborn: Enter).
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>>81131491
Oh, Act 6 is definitely worse on the pacing front than Act 5. But there are points where Act 5 feels rushed, and points where it feels drawn out, and even a few where it somehow manages to feel like both at the same time.
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Post comfy music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkYB3Fw4bLw
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>>81131631
>jade has blue eyes
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>>81131631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75kJb_aAvKY
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>>81118482
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>>81119293
This is the entire mentality of the meteor crew, both pre- and post-retcon.
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>>81131631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsVnMkSiK6M
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>>81131631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve7TB0FggaY
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>>81131631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwrvxNVIpiI
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>>81131631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrimTgZi5uk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EGpTfLJhfA
>last album was 3 years ago
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