The backlash against the negative reviews are already beginning.

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>>81067117
I'm going to enjoy this movie. I just know it

>>81067117
The audience score drops every hour.

>>81067117
The Transformers franchise are hits

>>81067150
I wish Bowie were still alive so that he could play Hades in a Wonder Woman movie.

I don't think there's anyone who thought this wasn't going to be a hit.

I didn't think it would happen but it looks like this is gonna be a TDKR level shit storm

>>81067198
Never came across my mind, but now i really want it. Shame tho.

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>>81067198
>play Hades in a Wonder Woman movie
I feel so sad now. We will never have this.

User score has already dropped 20% on RT and still going down

>Delusional over-hyped DC fans get buttflustered that critics don't like it.

What a surprise.

>>81067117
Audience score has dropped from ~85 to 77.
Critics score has dropped from 40% to 31%.

This movie is bad, just accept it.

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>Audience score getting lower every few hours

>>81067426
Literally only marvel shills think it's bad.

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>>81067117
Or they could go see a good movie.

>>81067117
That would save Snyder. Fuck that. Fuck him.

>>81067117
>[citation needed]

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>DC fans are seriously this willing to suck Snyder's dick

>>81067117
Source?

>>81067336
and that's still including the 100,000 votes from people over the past 3 years

even SeaWorld hasn't got tanks this big

>>81067653
Someone who for whatever reason really wants BvS to be a huge success

>>81067117
Congrats, it's next Transformers/Blart Mall Cop/Adam Sandler movie.

Audience ratings mean jackshit, they're also the easiest to skew

>>81067117
>>81067645
You don't speak for DC fans

I'll go in and enjoy the parts that work but I won't be surprised if it's shit as a film because MoS was shit.

>>81067550
>>81067589

You guys are getting really desperate here. Look, a good movie can not get a 30% RT score. It just doesn't happen. There are cases of good movies being underrated by critics and getting maybe into the 50-60% range, but 30% is without a doubt a stinker. This is not a conspiracy of every movie reviewer trying to spite DC fans, BvS is just a bad movie. You don't see Marvel fans desperately trying to defend Fant4stic, do you?

Off tangent from this, the thing that makes me shake my head at people is them being suprised at yet another cinematic batman that kills.

It's like they don't remember Tim "strap bomb on badguy then shove him off panel" Burton.
Or Joel "throw a bunch of coins and watch Two-Face dive to jaggy rock junction" Schumacher.
Or even Christopher "let's throw Twoface to his death AGAIN" Nolan.

>>81067803
To be fair, they wouldn't defend fant4stic because 1) it's a bad movie and 2) people want Marvel Studios to get the rights back, so defending a Fox flick would be counter to that second point.

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>>81067117
Just give up. There's no hope for it anymore.

>>81067645
Keep sucking Weadon feminist cock cucker.

>>81067645
suck it all the way to a cinematic universe
DC fans are like abuse victims they just take it and hope some kindness eventually breaks in

>>81067916
>Keep sucking Weadon feminist cock cucker.
That's funny because everybody realized Whedon was shit and Marvel kicked him to the curb so he could keep sucking said feminist cocks

>>81067942
Back to /v/ vermin.

>>81067117
Yeah, ive seen a lot of praise to this movie from regular people but any backlash against critics is potentially damaging for Warner Bros, expect a bigger pan for their next movies.

>>81067117
>This will be a hit.

Don't jump to conclusions either way.

No way this movie is going to be an outright bomb, but the sheer number of negative advance reviews is definitely going to have an impact on how it's viewed after the general USA premiere tonight.

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>>81067117
I see the damage control and shilling is already beginning as well.

>>81067942
>Audience score is dropping like a muthafucka & I'm sure after the midnight release it'll settle around 50-60% by tomorrow afternoon. Just face it the movie blows balls

it was crazy that yessterday this movie already had 120k user rating before really opening. I think it is DCfanatics voting and now that the people who really watched it started to rate it is dropping

>>81068076
Of course it was. You can't get an actual audience score when the movie isn't actually out yet.

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>>81067198

Damnit anon, I'm in the theater about to watch BvS. I don't need these feels

>>81067666
>and that's still including the 100,000 votes from people over the past 3 years
>even SeaWorld hasn't got tanks this big

what people has been voting on this movie for 3 years?

seems like user score could be even lower

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I think the movie is a 7/10 at best. Score was great (except wonderwoman) and I liked the fight scenes.
What I didn't like was that they skipped scenes way too often in the beginning, like you we're trying to get into a scene and then they jump right to another place and again and again.

I also understand if normies didn't like it, because the movie contains a lot of content made for comicbook readers..

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The scores are going down by a point every few hours. Even imdb.
It's amazing. This just might be the blunder.

>>81067117

Nnnnnope!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jgpihpnv3Q

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>>81068018
I hated MoS, despite wanting to love it because I love me some Supes. When I first heard this was announced I knew it would be a train wreck.

Now it's a train wreck and I'm so fucking happy. DC needs to fucking stop making live action and just focus on animated movies, where they fucking excel.

I hope it loses them a gorillion dollars and they don't fucking even think about making another movie until they have someone competent who doesn't write/direct like a fucking 17 year old euphoric fedora-wearing atheist, dressed in a black with a large collection of unread copies of Niche and Sartre as well as a number of cheap Japanese swords - because if I didn't know who was behind these films, that's how I would picture them.

I hope it dies so WB will stop molesting characters I like. It's like Snyder actively hates these characters, particularly Supes. So I'm fucking HYPE that this movie is trash. I want WB to stop.

My favorite part of this whole debacle was "IT NEEDS MORE CRITICS! YOU'LL SEE, IT'LL GET HIGER"

>>81067964
After two movies though.

>>81068018
>No way this movie is going to be an outright bomb, but the sheer number of negative advance reviews is definitely going to have an impact on how it's viewed after the general USA premiere tonight.
Maybe. Though people are generally stupid and watch shit out of familiarity and Batman is a very familiar topic. Hardly anyone I know actually checks review sites.

>>81067117
The movie is shit, the reviews are all correct.

However I still liked it.

It's... bearable, somehow refreshing.

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In the theater right now. Will be back in 3 hours to judge for myself

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>>81067117
>backlash
>code name for neckbearded DC fan butthurt
>mfw

>>81068205
>After two movies though.
The first one was fine. And he started shitting on fans and being in bed with SJWs by the second movie anyway

>>81068232
Hope you go easy on the memes when you type your thoughts on it!

>>81068155
>I also understand if normies didn't like it, because the movie contains a lot of content made for comicbook readers
This was pretty much what I figured when I heard they were going full Dark Knight Returns with Batman in this one. No way would normies be able to understand that shit.
Compared to Marvel movie that play it save enough that it's enjoyable for normies and still enjoyable to a degree for comic fans. Well or used to because now it's all convoluted and you have to watch every piece of shit movie to understand the next one.

>>81067198
Let me tell you what you've done to me.

Today was the first of a four day weekend for me. A weekend in which I will be cashing in a 20 hour overtime check. Being able to meet up with my best friend after more than a year of never seeing him, being able to share a meal with him at our favorite resturant, exchanging built up christmas and birthday gifts.

And with your single post you have ruined not just my weekend, but the rest of this month for me.

>>81067117
I just came back from seeing it...its pretty fucking good, but i get the feeling that Snyder left some really important bits on the R version.
The biggest most glaring one is Batman killing evilfags, they needed to show the death of Robin or Barbara getting raep and crippled by The Joker.

>>81067117
Fuck this we don't deserve movies like this to be hits, that means more years of Snyder raping DC characters, fuck it

>>81068225
You sure about that?

http://www.out.com/armond-white/2016/3/24/sexiest-batman-and-superman-imaginable

>If fanboys don’t cream to Batman’s dream sequence (“It took me to the lie, a beautiful lie” Wayne says), grown-up gay men surely will. In his dream, Batman wears a leathery mask, hiding his identity, while he is taunted by wasplike creatures and forced to acknowledge Superman’s equivalent virility. This goes beyond Guy Ritchie’s boy-boy teasing in last year’s The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (which co-starred Cavill). It is the most surreal dominance-submission dream in Hollywood history. But Batman v Superman is also a political allegory, using masculine sex appeal to examine America’s current political confusion. Zack Snyder’s comic book avatars are not for children.

>>81068196
>My favorite part of this whole debacle was "IT NEEDS MORE CRITICS! YOU'LL SEE, IT'LL GET HIGER"
more like get even lower than now and have greek wedding 2 higher than BVS. it would be fun

Nah, it was a bad movie. Audience from the cinema I went to also seemed pretty disappointed at the end.

Starts very strong, but then gets increasingly worse as the movie continues.

>>81068283
The first one already dropped some hints on the problems that Whedon would bring. Like Widow being the one to figure Loki out, doing the whole sceptre thing oh and of course him being the cause for all the quipping we now get.

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>Lower and lower audience rating
>Low as FUCK Critic score
>And yet there are still people on /co/ and ITT that defend this to the death and spout that anyone who hates this is a MARVEL SHILL KEK
Obviously not. It's okay to like a bad movie, you know? It's okay to like a bad movie and think it's good, even. No one's going to give you shit for that. But to argue endlessly in it's favor as if it's the second coming of Christ when it's obviously not is ludicrous. You are in the minority. The sooner you accept that and discuss this like a rational human being, the sooner we can have fun and actually make topics on it. It's Man of Steel all over again, though thankfully BvS seems much less polarizing.

>>81067117

Normie coworkers are seeing it over the weekend, some are taking today off. They all were surprised when I said it looks bad, I just feel sorry for them.

>>81068346

>But Batman v Superman is also a political allegory, using masculine sex appeal to examine America’s current political confusion

Between shit and a darker shade of shit?

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>>81067117

I don't trust critics on Superhero films anymore, especially rotten tomatoes...they gave Iron Man 3 & Age of Ultron certified fresh.

While i'm worried the producers tried to force too much into BvS, there is no way its worse than Age of Ultron...I will eat my fucking shoe if its worse than Age of Ultron

>>81068400
What's really getting me is how people are somehow still defending Snyder

>>81068479
>they gave Iron Man 3 & Age of Ultron certified fresh
The fuck?
...
Oh. Disney.

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>>81067117
I don't think so, friend.
This movie doesn't just need to do well, it needs to be a smash, hit a least a billion. Bad word of mouth is gonna be a problem.

>>81068479
It's not, but AoU was a cancerous diseased turd so that's a very low bar.

>>81068479

When the vast majority of reviewers say stuff is good it doesn't always mean it's actually good.

But when the vast majority of reviewers say something is shit it is rarely incorrect.

I saw it in 3D because it was the one that fit my gf schedule's better and it was shit.
I fell asleep.

I was even defending the Eisenberg as Luthor when it was announced and I can only swallow my pride.
It just feels like something's coming and then nothing happens. And then Batman at the end like "I failed him in live" Like literally how?

>>81068530
And that piece of shit made, what, a billion?

>>81067117

>People are generally liking the movie and confused at the low scores critics are giving it.

General audiences don't typically have the critical eye for film that critics do, so NO FUCKING SHIT.

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>>81068530

I'm not expecting it to be The Dark Knight, but i'm hoping for a fun movie with some awesome moments which helps to build the DCCU more.

I trust Snyder far, far more than Whedon so there's that.

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>>81068484
Desperation.

Personally, as a Supes fan, I want these movies to tank massively and get buried. I despise this interpretation of Superman. I mean, it actually makes me fucking upset to see him put in this trash.

>>81068479

Is it time for an RT lesson again?

"6/10, eh, it's ok I guess" = Fresh. That's exactly what those movies are.

BvS is bad. Actually bad.

>RT is giving it a bad score, that means it's bad.
>Others are saying it's good, that means it's bad.

Never change, /co/.

>>81068479
It was worse than AoU and I hated that fucking movie. But that's just my opinion.

>>81068586
>i'm hoping for a fun movie with some awesome moments

Oh, anon. I'm so sorry.

>>81068546
>But when the vast majority of reviewers say something is shit it is rarely incorrect.

Its not getting reviewed like Fantastic Four so idk if you can make that argument.

The MetaCritic score is right around where most of Snyder's stuff is...so if you like his other movies you'll probably like BvS. Personally I love his work...except Sucker Punch

>>81068479
Why do you people think Rotten Tomatoes is an actual review site?

The audience reactions and score is shitty too. Although it may still make money just because it's a Batman movie, who knows.

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>>81068188
>Now it's a train wreck and I'm so fucking happy. DC needs to fucking stop making live action and just focus on animated movies, where they fucking excel.

What if they take the animation people and put them in charge of the live action department

>>81068595
What if I liked it? How does that make you feel on a fundamental level?

>>81068627

Literally how can you post on /co/ and say you loved watchmen?

>>81068603

Unless Batman takes off his mask for no reason in the final battle, everyone starts making quips (including Doomsday), and there's a pointless romance between Alfred & Diana....there's no way it can be worse

>>81068615
Have you even seen it or are you riding the opinion train like most people on /co/ when they here about something?

>>81068601
98% of regular people havent been able to see it yet. The only people who have are critics.

The positive reviews on RT (I should know, I skimmed through them) are hilariously blatant shilling or damage controlling DC fanboys. A bunch of them are old as fuck for pre-emptive damage control.

Try using your brain.

>>81067117

You people are worse than "Prequels were good" crowd.

You are forcing yourself to like a shit movie because it has Batman and Superman.

>>81068586
>but i'm hoping for a fun movie
Nope
>with some awesome moments
Yes
>which helps to build the DCCU more.
... I don't know. The intention to BUILD is clearly there but we'll have to wait and see if it works.

Just go in with a very low bar and you'll enjoy it. I did.

>>81067803
Not trying to defend BvS here but Kung Pow only has like a 17% on RT

>>81068659
>Literally how can you post on /co/ and say you loved watchmen?

It was a near perfect adaptation of the comic...no other filmmaker would have put in the effort Snyder did with Watchmen

>>81068647

I would feel sorry for you I guess.

>>81068647
It doesn't make me feel anything, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally I found the movie dull as fuck, with bad pacing and a plot that was all over the place.

I'm glad if some people find joy in it. I didn't and I want Snyder off the DCEU.

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>>81068700
Hmmm

>>81068647
I sort of enjoyed Fant4stic.

I still know it's absolute shit though.

>>81067895
>it's a bad movie
So? This doesn't help your point in any way. In fact, your 2nd point is the reason why it's a bad movie

>>81067895
>people want Marvel Studios to get the rights back, so defending a Fox flick would be counter to that second point.
1) Because they know Marvel would make a better movie.
2) It is still a Marvel comic property and the general movie crowd probably thought Fant4stic was in the MCU going into the theater (if they did at all) because they saw the Marvel logo

Fant4stic is an OBVIOUSLY bad movie (Director openly blamed execs, vice versa, Actors responding to hatred, etc.) so we're not compelled to hate it because it's so apparent. BvS could be seen as okay at first glance, so we are compelled to say why it is actually bad.

inb4 MARVELDRONE.
I wanted to see this movie succeed, I really did, but as soon as I heard Jesse Eisenberg was going to be Lex, I knew it wasn't.

>>81068683
>98% of regular people havent been able to see it yet. The only people who have are critics.
>Americans have to wait extra days to watch the movie

lol

>>81068643
Because DC doesn't have a Marvel Studios.

>>81068700

Where was the giant man made alien that telepathically destroyed new york after being teleported into the city?

>>81068700

>It was a near perfect adaptation of the comic.

Snyderfags, not even once

>>81068627
>But when the vast majority of reviewers say something is shit it is rarely incorrect.
>Its not getting reviewed like Fantastic Four so idk if you can make that argument.

It's hovering at like 31%, anon, and 27% for top. That's not quite on the level of Fan4stic, but it's still pretty fucking bad, and closer to it than a movie with an actually good rating. The argument holds.

>>81068673

God, you're just too stupid for words.

>>81068188
>animated movies, where they fucking excel
You haven't seen the latest ones, have you?

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>Bought a ticket to 10 Cloverfield lane
>Snuck in
>Texting in the theater right now
Only 3/4s full.

>>81068746
And the user reviews have been dropping all day, so what's your point?

>>81068759

Exactly where it should be: in the trash

>>81068681
I have seen it.

I actually just got home from seeing it like 30 mins ago.

>>81068643
What they need to do is to understand that Superman is not as gritty as fucking Batman.

For Fucks sake, I don't mean like bullshit at the level of Marvel, but come the fuck on, DC, this is a character who views the world from the eyes of small town kid from Kansas, not a kid who's parents got fucking shot. show me that he believes people are inherently good.

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>>81068479

Fresh only means that most people consider the movie okay.

Look at the real ratings. IM3 has 7/10 critics score and 4/5 audience score.

Mainstream liked it. It's the comics fans that hated it and felt betrayed. And how many people actually buy Iron Man comics? 50k? That's like 0.01% of people who went to see IM3 in cinema.

And RT belongs to WB. That's why the critics consensus is: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice smothers a potentially powerful story -- and some of America's most iconic superheroes -- in a grim whirlwind of effects-driven action.

Does that sound right for a movie with 30% score?

But okay, blame Disney.

>>81068816
only when they adapt their 52 shit.

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>>81068816
How recent? Probably not any in the last year. Are they trash? Please don't break my heart.

>>81068834

There's a giant man made alien in BvS?

>>81068681

It opened here yesterday.

It is concentrated anti-fun. That's what's bad about it. It's a boring chore.

>>81068685
The prequels were bad films but they had more integrity than TFA which was bland and lazy and undermined itself.

a question,is there a synophsis of the movie yet or picture of cameo of the JL?

>>81068871

No.

>>81068862
>Please don't break my heart.
Okay, I won't
Someone else do it for me

>>81068864
Doomsday

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>>81068785

Whedon pls go

>please mister Snyder, shit in my mouth a little more!
I'm a DCfag and the damage control you guys are doing is pathetic. Instead of admitting that the movie has serious problems and maybe it's time for WB to hire someone else to handle the DCEU, you keep sucking Snyder's mediocre cock. And yes, I've seen the movie if that's what you wanted to ask.

It's a lot like I wanted to love Watchmen, but god, it was so dull. He can't do this shit. Snyder somehow sucks the life out of even fun ideas. I don't know what it is. The sequences in Sucker Punch for example, some of them should have at least been fun in a stupid goofy way, but they were boring, poorly lit and hard to see and too boring like everything he does.

>>81068862
I don't think they've had a good animated movie since Assault on Arkham

>>81068913

Ayyy lmao

>>81068889
You have three of four webms posted here.
Gal Gadot is watching JL commercials in the BvS movie basically.

>>81068868
>It is concentrated anti-fun
Sounds like modern Batman then.

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>>81068902
Fine.

>>81067117
top kek in which universe do you live?

I remember a few months ago somebody from WB mentioned that the original cut was 4 hours long (this is without the soundtrack and I'm pretty sure most of the CGI wasn't done) before they started deciding what to take out to fit it into a movie length. Does /co/ think that 4 hours of movie could have saved it?

>>81068852
>And RT belongs to WB.
Why is this always refereed as a negative? As if everyone faults WB for not abusing their power over RT to influence ticket purchases for films they distribute? Sounds like a Disney move.

>>81068833
My point is that americucks have to wait to watch topkek

I was gonna go with a buddy just because we haven't seen a good trashy flick together in ages but he had hernia surgery today and is too doped up to see straight.

>>81069014
2 and a half hours already felt like a chore, I don't think I could watch 4 hours of that shit.

>>81069014

No. That would make it way worse.

>>81069061
He's gonna fall asleep before Bats or Supes even throws a punch

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>>81068868
>MUH FUN

>>81069035
>Why is this always refereed as a negative?
It's not being refered as a negative. It's to point out that WB owns the site they are getting the bad reviews on so they would be more likely to be paying for positive reviews than anybody else

No, the issue with it is the pacing. It has a bunch of scenes for a plot that goes nowhere (The batman vs supes) and then they're pals cuz something bigger starts happening (even though the main problem they have with each other was never solved, supes should still think Batman put Gotham in risk somehow and Batman still should think there needs to be some kind of control on Supes).

>>81068980
>Sounds like modern Batman then.

I should be clear, since I detect the defense force line here a little

I don't mean it's "not fun" in a "I wish it was a Marvel movie where Batman and Superman were quipsters". I mean it's not fun, which is bad when it ALSO has no other redeeming features. Fun is just the easiest, lowest bar of achievement and it still fails to reach it.

Nolan Batman wasn't fun, Days of Future past wasn't fun, but they were good in other ways. BvS has nothing.

>>81069111
I thought I was on /v for a moment.

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>>81069111
>muh buzzwords
If I wanted something artsy, go back to school. I go to see a movie to have fun.

>>81069154
Batman Begins is fun as fuck to be fair

>>81069149
this was meant for >>81069014

>>81069111
>I enjoy getting bored by movies
Fun doesn't mean funny you faggot, Batman Begins and TDK were fun movies even though they were serious. BvS is a boring, dull mess that feels completely hollow.

>>81068915
I want Snyder gone myself, but I refuse to let the DisneyMarvel fags cuck me. I will stand by this film, while looking forward to Suicide Squad in August.

>>81069177
>just turn off your brain, bro!!

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>>81069223
>the logic of a cuck in action

>>81069111
Fuck you. Seriously, fuck you. I don't believe you need constant quipping but this movie is so grim and unrelenting that it is impossible to watch. I didn't even think that was true of MOS, but it is true for this movie. Superman doesn't even feel like Superman, all he does is agonize about how hard his life is. A bomb goes off and kills fucking everyone around him and the next shot is Superman surrounded by flames with a tear rolling down his cheek, like "Why can't my life be simple". He's not checking for survivors or any of that actual heroic shit. He's literally surrounded by burning corpses and he's just moping about whether man is good or some shit.

Fuck Snyder and fuck anyone who defends him after this.

>>81069223
Getting cucked is fun.

>>81069223
You're really pathetic and sound like an abuse victim.

I feel bad for DC fans. They don't deserve this.

But fuck Snyder. I wish him nothing but misery.

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>>81069035
Its referenced when Babies like you cant accept a RT score and instead make bull shit statements like "disney did it kek"

>>81069253
Nice memes.

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>>81069296
>you have to own the site to buy critic influence

Just saw it and really enjoyed it. I can see why film critics don't like it though. The scenes don't really mesh together.

>>81069182
EXACTLY! Dark Knight was A lot of fun too especially the first viewing.

Someone post the bingo.

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>>81067117

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>>81069223

>>81068188
>Niche and Sartre
Whats wrong w Sartre (and Nietzsche im guessing)

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>>81069269
That sounds equal parts hilarious and terrible.

>>81068232
This isn't facebook.

>>81067117
>Batman and Superman killing at point blank
>Superman needlessly dying at the end
>Lex Luthor is the Joker essentially
>Forced Justice League cameos
>Weak character motives

Those plot points alone killed my excitement and this is coming from a DCfag who liked man of steel and watchmen. Snyder really has gone too far this time.

>>81069154
>Fun is just the easiest, lowest bar of achievement and it still fails to reach it.

That's the highest bar you can say though because of the subjective nature of the word. What's fun to you could easily be doldrum to someone else.

>>81067198
>Hades
>Not Metron

>>81069427
>Superman needlessly dying at the end
How was his death needless?

>>81069269
>superman visits germany

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>>81069342
>You have to be bribed to not enjoy a zack snyder movie

>>81069111
One good thing to come out of this is that I'm pretty sure so many people are going to start coming out to defend this movie saying "MUH FUN MUH FUN" over and over again that I'm pretty sure soon it'll just be seen as a total joke

>>81068699
Kung Pow is horrid

>>81067117
>People are generally liking the movie and confused at the low scores critics are giving it.
The RT audience score is already lower than that of Thor the Dark World.

>>81069342
Of course I'm bummed because I love Batman and Superman and want them to be in good successful films.

But I'm doubly bummed because Suicide Squad looks fun as fuck (and she's still qt in it despite the trash witch look) but it's going to get burned by association. Unless they do some reshoots and shit. Same for Wonder Woman.

>>81069269
I get this feeling he probably wanted to recreate that scene of Batman standing on the pile of burnt money in TDK but that just sounds wrong

>>81068862

The nu52 wears many faces, all grim

Fuck you guys I liked it. Only bad part was Lex Luthor shooting fucking basketball and acting like Leto.

>>81069223
You've already been cucked friend.Cucked by Snyder and his shitty film making. Just be grateful this is the last time he can hurt you like this.

>>81069547
I get this feeling he probably wanted to recreate that scene from Kingdom Come.

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>>81069551

This

A grim murderer should not coexist with Superman, and yet he does

>>81069476
It means he has to be resurrected for Justice League. Apparently his grave moves at the end of the movie. So what was the purpose of his death?

>yfw this panning gets Snyder off the JL
>Batman and Superman committed suicide to save us from the Snyderverse
The World's Finest

>>81069476
>How was his death needless?

It's unearned since we don't actually give a shit about Superman yet (possibly care less since he's horrible in this movie) and it's a pretty major Superman story being tossed into the fire as basically a sub-plot in a movie about something else.

It's Dark Phoenix in X3 and Green Goblin in ASM2 all over again

>>81068847
I feel like you can have a gritty superman story telling. It's just that everyone else has to be a scumbag while Clark remains the same. A story in which there are shitty no-win situations but you have to move on and do your best is inherently a very good story for someone like Superman but changing him into one of his grittier clones doesn't work.

>>81069585
Difference is Superman is screaming in despair

If what anon says is true and it just feels like Superman is crawling in his skin, Snyder's failings as a director strike again

>>81067117
AoU levels of damage control
>B-but it's actually ENTERTAINING!
>I-it's good but not great so it's okay!
>I like it so it's actually a quality movie!

>>81069636
As someone who hated most of the movie, I will say that the funeral scenes were handled pretty well imo.

But for them to actually matter, they'd have to bookend a movie that didn't suck ass.

>>81069489
Too soon anon. I actually just heard about it. I wonder when the immigrants are going to get kicked out because the citizens have got to want to kill them by this point.

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Friendly reminder of the reliability of RT.

>M-m-marvel said it's a bad movie, so it must be !

>>81069672
He's not even screaming. He's just standing there with this thousand yard stare, tear rolling down his cheek.

Meanwhile, someone in the building is probably begging for death as the fire eats at their flesh.

i heff question
Why didn't DC just put Paul Dini and B. Timm in charge?

>>81069636
>>81069660
Isn't it to show people that he's willing to sacrifice himself for humanity? Yeah they wasted a good Superman story but since they used Doomsday its not like they could have done that anyway

>>81069269

This is what heppens the memers who shriek about how SUPERMAN'S ABOUT THE INNER CONFLICT NOT THE POWERS win.

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>>81067426
>totally forgot Batman v Superman was being released
>see this post
No way the critic score is that low. That's like half the score of how Man of Steel did.

That's what I thought until I actually looked it up and it was real.

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>>81069696
Friendly reminder that everyone can taste your salty tears. I mean the fact that you went to make that is proof enough that your a complete shill.

>>81069696
But those are accurate scores. Thor: The Dark World is the worst out of them

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>>81069696
holy fuck this is getting bad

How does Batman beat Superman? Does he use Kryptonite or is it just a really op armor?

>>81069709
>Why didn't DC just put Paul Dini and B. Timm in charge?

Because Dini's a bad writer who was carried by Timm, Berkowitz, McDuffie, and Kreisberg, while Timm is an animation director. That simple.

Why would either of them be entrusted with a nine figure project? Timm's biggest projects are six figure budgets at most.

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>>81069696
THE SALT

>>81069767
They still would have made a better movie.

>>81067117
I just watched it and it was very good. Two of my friends agreed with me.

>>81069709
But the problem is that throughout the movie, they don't seem to indicate that humanity really likes him. At best they're bitterly divided about him and think they'd be better off without him, and Doomsday doesn't help the pro-Superman side of the argument because there would have been no Doomsday if Superman had never come to Earth.

Just as a cost-benefit analysis, the number of lives lost because of Superman's presence on Earth vastly outstrips the number of people he's saved.

And the movie ends with Lex hinting that Darkseid is coming because of Superman so things are just going to get worse for Earth for no fucking reason except Superman.

We don't deserve this.

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>>81067117
>tfw dcfag who had no expectations and didn't believe the hype...

>>81069696
Yeah, to be fair BvS is much better than both Thor movies, that's fucked up.

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>>81069695
>mfw europe literally imports terrorists

>>81069696

Hint: look at the 'average rating' listed for those movies.

>>M-m-marvel said it's a bad movie

WARNER BROTHERS OWN ROTTEN TOMATOES

>>81069767
A season of GLTAS costs 20mil+ and they could've been brought on as advisors.

>Dini's a bad writer
Kill yourself.

>>81069763
He uses kryptonite gas and a kryptonite spear.

>>81069709
Better Question
Why didn't DC put Grant Morrison in charge?

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Remove Snyder

>>81069767
>Timm's biggest projects are six figure budgets at most.
Didn't Batman Mask of the Phantasm get a theatre release?

>Why would they put him in charge
Because BTAS, STAS and JLU are by far some of the best video interpretations of DC?

>>81069813

No, they probably wouldn't. Not Dini.

Berkowitz and Timm, absolutely. Even though Berkowitz worked more with Riba and under Timm.

>>81069767
then make it a six figure project rather than wasting money.

>>81067117
you mean the contrarian views

>>81069291
Considering hoe fucking smug they are, they totally deserve this and I am enjoying every minute of it.

>>81068155
>I also understand if normies didn't like it, because the movie contains a lot of content made for comicbook readers.
My god, THIS.

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>>81069696
>digs for an hour through RT to find a rotten marvel movie
>finds this and still makes his epic Photoshop

are you not even a little embarrassed son?

>>81069870
>Didn't Batman Mask of the Phantasm get a theatre release?

Absolutely. And that was seven figures.

I'm just bad at figures

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>yfw Flash timetravels inside the Batcave to warn Bruce scene

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>trusting RT to accurately judge whether a movie is good or bad

Daily reminder

www.moovienews.com/20160323-major-shakeup-for-warnerbros-and-dc.html

>>81067159
And they are all bad movies. Yes fans love them, but the movies just aren't very good.

>>81069865
>Why didn't DC put Grant Morrison in charge?
Because he's a comic book guy, not a animation/movie guy. Though he probably would have come up with a far better script

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>>81069763
The only way he could beat him

>>81069913
>Flash
>black

I still don't understand that scene

>>81069913
>That scene where Batman catches the Flash masturbating

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>>81069835
oh man i just watched this, brutal and awkward. Zack already knows hes off JL you can just tell from the defeat in his responses. If it happens at all that is.

>>81069921
home alone and the mummy are bad movies you retarded /tv/ memer

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>yfw mother box

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>>81069943
>yes fans loves them
>fans
>loving the transformers movies
How fucking dense are you?

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>>81069921
>fags making this sadness into a cringe-fest

JUST STAHP

>>81069835
Link.

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>>81069492
>Chris Nolan is being courted as a producer and George Miller, David Yates, Louis Letterier, and Vincenzo Natali are all being courted to take over Justice League."

FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK, EVERYONE DON'T PAY FOR THIS. WE'LL GET GEORGE MILLER IF IT UNDERPERFORMS

>>81069981
>implying that's possible
this batman dick sucking has got to stop
the flash can masturbate in attoseconds batman has no chance

>>81068187
is

is that corey from spill?

>>81069913
>yfw he looks like a hobo who stole Barry's speedsuit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

>>81069921
Now this is just pathetic.

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>>81070049
please be real news.

>>81070062
yeah I like the black guys from Spill better than those other faggots.

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>>81069938

>That website format
>Those design choices

It's like something you'd find on Geocities in 1995.

>>81069943
grandma drink your PRUNE JUICE

>>81070049
>George Miller directing JL with Cavill and Affleck headlining
SHIIIIEEEEEEET

>>81069981
>That scene where The Flash stuffs Bathamster down the garbage disposal

>>81069832
>Just as a cost-benefit analysis, the number of lives lost because of Superman's presence on Earth vastly outstrips the number of people he's saved.
But he saved all human race from extinction by zod crazy plan

>>81070023
They are poor movies you idiot. Transformer fanboys like them. Anyone else thinks the movies are pure shit, which they are. Making money doesn't = good.

LOIS IS THEY KEY

>>81070152
Yeah but Zod would never have come to Earth if it weren't for Superman

What if Zack commits suicide over this?

The scene where he goes to Juarez to save one girl from dying. What was the purpose other than to show him around people with face painted as skulls?

>>81069943
>Yes fans love them,
No we don't.
I just watch them because......
Look I need to see it through, I was there for the midnight showing of the first movie and....

>>81070157

Transformers movies don't break a billion dollars and make more every movie they put out by just being liked by a bunch of fanboys

Everybody loves those movies, despite them being dumb as dirt

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>>81069921

>this guy is literally on suicide watch right now

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yfw Ben can't stand the fact the movie is a blunder and kills himself the next week.

Well, after defending MoS for so long it feels good to finally firmly be in the anti Snyder crowd after watching BvS.
I still like MoS and you can't stop me though

>>81070157
Kids loved them.
Fanboy hated it's guts.
Same thing with TMNT.
same thing with every other movie Bay touches

>>81070049
The problem with BvS was that it at it's core, it was a Goyer movie. We only learned late in the game that Terrio only did very few changes & Affleck never even touched the script like we hoped.

WB needs to off Snyder. They can keep the actors except Jesse Eisenberg then they just might be able to salvage this.

>>81070194
Those movies break a million dollars because the Chinese love them.
because they're dumb as dirt

>>81070157
>Transformer fanboys like them
No

It's ok, it's not bad

Just got done watching it. It's beyond garbage. It doesn't feel like an actual movie, and none of the scenes feel jointed together. There's no character development at all, but batman and superman just spontaneously get a long. Wonder Woman's fucking back has more screentime than her face, and Lex is literally acting like a schizophrenic.

And nothing is learned from Man of Steel. Nonsensical action, massive amounts of destruction and fire, and no saving of people. I have no idea why any citizen cared about Superman at the end since he does nothing.
Also, Batman straight up shoots several people with explosives and guns.
The best part was Aquaman. Also the cgi was insanely bad.

>>81070194

everybody in china loves them you mean

>>81069741
>>81069762
>>81069781
>>81069848
>>81069906

But you see, I didn't even like BvS, but it still escapes me how 200 out of 276 people ,among them "Top Critics" can find Iron Man 2 certified fresh and still smash BvS. I'm just saying, the hate BvS is getting is ridiculous.

>>81070184
He had to be removed from the party so Bruce could do shit.

>>81070251
MMM PISS

>>81070184
To save the girl from dying.

>>81070175
It still depends on how it sells at the box office.

>>81070256
>There's no character development at all, but batman and superman just spontaneously get a long

So it's a comic book then

>>81070221
MOS is a good movie and its divisive, hence the 50-60RT. I love it so much i bought the bluray and watch it every year. BvS just isn't and its really triggering these company war kids who wont feel complete until DC has a library of consistently good content like that other company who makes movies/tv based on capeshit.

>>81070260
I'll never understand how Superman Returns has a 76% with critics. I'll never trust RT, and I love Man of Steel, which is why you should listen to me when I say that BvS is totally worthless outside of the fact that it may just result in the removal of the root of the problem from the DCEU before Justice League

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>>81067117

That makes sense, as the taste of LOTS of people will be so shit that not only will they embrace mediocrity without question, they'll defend it with the savagery that a mother bear would use to defend her cubs.

>>81067150

If your taste is shit, I have every faith that you will.

>>81070184
To show him as a god, dumbfuck.

>>81070277
he had already copied the info, Wonder Woman had already stolen it.

So he had to do that to allow Bruce to follow Wonder Woman?

>>81070291
Why was it that specific scenario instead of anything else? that's more the question.

>And then he goes and saves the little girl and is surrounded by people wearing skullcandy make up!

>>81070335
No. They're literally fighting and Batman is about to murder Superman, but then two seconds later trusts Batman to save Martha so Superman can do nothing until Doomsday shows up

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>>81070260
nothing you just wrote was true. Why do continue to make a fool of yourself?

>>81070376
You have no argument just stop.

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>>81070256
>Wonder Woman's fucking back has more screentime than her face

Hahahahah holy shit, I just realized this is 100% true

>>81070362
Agreed.
The most frustrating thing though? Complete DCEU fanboys who are in so deep that they've started to argue against the very movie they defended for 3 years just to support BvS.

>>81069943
People's opinions on movies are subjective. What matters is they make a shitload of money and money is objective.

>>81070369
I have a firm belief that zack snyder himself went into your home and shat upon your face. I cant understand this kind of hatred for the movie. Yeah, it sucks, but you look like buttmad as fuck. Calm down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwXfv25xJUw

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JUST

all over his face

>>81070457
He doesnt deserve this

>>81069223
the only vote you have as a consumer is your wallet. If you want Snyder gone then stay home.

>>81070365
I've seen it too anon, and I agree that Snyder should be removed for the following installments. But shit, Batfleck is fucking beast.

>>81070376
>So he had to do that to allow Bruce to follow Wonder Woman?

Yep. See, the writers fucked up, they had Bruce meet both Diana and Clark at the same fucking party, but in order to let Diana and Bruce have their thing they had to take Clark away from the scene. This is why the scene feels so weird and out of place, like he just stands between all those people with his eternal frowny face, like he's thinking "wait didn't I have something important to do back at that party?"

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>>81070457
hes fantasizing about sneaking into Zack's hotel room and in the Batsuit and beating him to death.

>>81070455
>I have a firm belief that zack snyder himself went into your home and shat upon your face.
He sure did the figurative equivalent to his bosses if this thing doesn't sell as well as hoped.

It probably will, though, solely on the name and people's curiosity.

>>81070486
Nah, he does, he fucked JLo's ass.

>>81070457
I feel like he'll actually go to Warner personally and have Zack fired. He's one of their highest rated directors, one of their most talented actors, and he's literally Batman. He could probably do it.

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>>81069943
>implying Transformers 2 isn't pure art

>>81069921
RT aggregates the consensus of critics (and audiences to the right). These movies are generally considered bad or good by critics and audiences. They are not applicable to contrarians on /tv/ and /co/.

>>81070576
Imagine Batman wanting you fired.

>>81070455
I'm mad because Zack Snyder decided to character assassinate a character I liked because he want to be a "3deep5u" movie director.
Why the fuck doesn't he just do arthouse movies? Doesn't pay the bills? Or is this just one big con game to him?

>>81069943
>And they are all bad movies.

Theyre fine. Transfans are never happy with anything.

>>but the movies just aren't very good.

>>Four movies made.
>>Fifth movie in works.
>>Millions upon millions of dollars made.
>>Team of writers being assembled to make spinnoff movies.

Id say to someone whose opinions in Hollywood actually COUNT, the movies are more than good enough. Fat, disgruntled basement dwelling, cheeto dust-covered, neckbearded man-child fanboy opinions go into the trash

>>81070256
>no saving of people.

Isn't there a damn montage of Superman just doing that? Like the rocket and towing a ship.

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>>81069696

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>>81070457
Feel bad for him. He had to have known for a while how critics and the audience might receive the movie.

>>81070629
Nah, what pisses me off the most is the literal character assassination he did with Jimmy Olsen. He was with Lois on the trip to Africa and got killed on the spot.

>>81070457
I am fucking crying

>Henry trying his best to save Henry but he's in way too deep

LOL

Max looks like he wants to scream vulgarities at the screen but can't because he still wants to work at DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opI6--3FlBQ

>>81070617
That's what I'm saying
>Cavill and Affleck show up at Snyder's door in costume with Kevin Tsujihara in the middle
>"We need to talk"
I would shit myself

>>81070576
If Warner has any sense they might as well let Ben co-direct the next solo Bats movie. He was pretty much the best part of the whole movie.

>>81070157

>>I think these movies are bad, so therefore everybody else does.

>>Making money doesn't = good.

Except it does. But you go right on belivein that i it helps you sleep better

Now run along. I hear Walmart has a special on hot pockets and chee-tos. You don't want to miss out on that.

>>81070630
>Bringing in money = quality
People like you never cease to amaze me. So by your definition, the Alvin and the Chipmunks movies are masterpieces, right?

>>81070193

I watch them because I'm above the irrationalities that plague the Transformers fandumb.

>>81070694

>implying Max isn't dealing with the fact that his directorial debut got assravaged by critics

>>81068346
I agree with him. Cavil and Affleck are just too sexy.

>>81070780
I don't know what this means, I'm only implying that he can't really lash out like he would want to because he needs the DC money.

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>it's at 30% now

>>81067198
Hey....at least now he gets to play Hades in real life.

>>81070630
>If it's popular it can't be bad!
The term "lowest common denominator" exists for a reason anon.

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>>81070830
You weren't lying.
Unbelievable.

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>>81070815
what i see is man defeated by the fact he really cant tell people in the company that this wrong.
and that saddens me a lot

>>81069709
>Isn't it to show people that he's willing to sacrifice himself for humanity?
No it doesn't. Superman wins and Doomsday kills him in his death rattle.

>>81067117
people does not 1 billion dollars make. They could have spent 150 million on marketing and 150 million on the film and easily broke even. Instead, they're probably fucked.

>>81067159
because they're actually fun movies that deliver on what people expect from them.

>>81070815
He's definitely measuring his words and is holding back.
>this is not a DC comics movie
>this is not a DC comics movie

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>Marvel got into the shared movie universe concept before DC
>Their movies are always higher-ranked than DC
>There is usually less public backlash when Marvel does reboots versus when DC does them (see Marvel NOW/ANAD vs. New 52/DCYOU)
>Marvel movies have synergy with its tv shows, while DC doesn't
>Fans love whenever Marvel adds a diverse character into comics, while nobody cares when DC does it
>While the new Marvel cartoons are pretty much shit, at least Marvel supports them unlike DC
>In general, Marvel seems to have the upper hand in nearly every part of the great /co/tv/ empire

Why did Marvel get the long end of the stick? What happened that caused everyone to hate DC, even before this movie?

>>81070932
He could, but he knows he isn't going where he wants to in the movie business and he could go far in the comic writing business so he can't sabotage himself.

It makes me a little bit sad too, his face really tells the whole story.

>>81067589
this movie fucked me up

>>81070720
He IS directing it.

>>81071003
>What happened that caused everyone to hate DC, even before this movie?
Green Lantern

>>81071003
WB dragging their feet, mismanagement at DC, and aggressive push by Marvel during the 00's.

Remember that the guy who directed Deadpool actually got asked by Joe Quesada in the mid-00's to direct a short animation to sell Iron Man to kids and adults who have never heard of him. This was before RDJ was cast. As much as I disliked a lot of terrible decisions Quesada made, Marvel seemed to know that they needed to sell the characters and had to get to the essence of them.

WB acts like they don't know how Superman works.

>>81071003
Shitty producers who hire writers and directors who have no idea what they're doing.

At the end of the day, Marvel is just okay thanks to Feige. They only look good because Sony, Fox and WB have always been incompetent.

>>81071003
MCU vs Nolanverse.

Muh fun vs muh serious maturity

Muh light vs muh darkness

>>81070486
Yes he does. He knew what he was doing and now he landed himself back to square goddamn one, no wife and a career in the shitter.

>>81071003
>NOW/ANAD

For the 9001th time, those are not reboots dumbdumb.

>>81071092
>muh

>>81071003
>>81071068
Don't forget Batman and Robin. Jonah Hex. Steel. Catwoman. The Spirit.

>>81071003
>Marvel does reboots
They haven't done so yet. And ANAD sure starts of great with Civil War II

>Marvel movies have synergy with its tv shows
Not true. The guys in charge of the movies aren't even aware to what happens in Agents of SHIELD while the Netflix shows barely reference that they are in the MCU. They don't even namedrop the attack in New York directly and just call it "the incident".

>>81070581
>Transformers 2
>pure art

The term is "Transkino", you pleb.

>>81071003
Let's be fair, the roles could have easily been reversed.
It's just, WB got so desperate to replace Harry Potter that they took half-hearted attempts at random shit hoping it would stick - including DC movies.
Then, when Dark Knight exceeded expectations, executives decided "WE NEED EVERYTHING TO BE GRIM AND SERIOUS"
And here we are now

>>81071060
No Snyder? Just Ben?
Don't play with my feelings anon...

>>81071003
>Fans love whenever Marvel adds a diverse character into comics, while nobody cares when DC does it

Kamala is cute.

Luke just panders to the black man/white girl fetish and they made Barbara a slut.

>>81071143
>Catwoman
I keep forgetting about that shit.
I mean, that's a good thing, but this seriously is a testament to just how much WB/DC can fuck up.

>>81071121
Yes I was trying to mock these kinds of company wars.

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>>81071073
They don't. Which is sad, because they could literally just copy the characterization Marvel does with Captain America, you know that whole "Outsider in his own country who always wants to do right despite living in a world of moral grays", and call it a day.

>>81070455
>I have a firm belief that zack snyder himself went into your home and shat upon your face.

No, That would be impossible as he has no idea who I am or where I live. Even if he tried Id clobber him before he could even unzip his pants. So your scenario is quite invalid.

>>I cant understand this kind of hatred for the movie.

Stating a fact does not require hatred.There genuinely are people out there who WILL take what's given them without question. This IS an objective fact. Why do you think shows like America's Funniest Home videos and the Simpsons go so many seasons? Because there are enough of lowest common denominator out there to sustain their ratings

>>You look like buttmad as fuck. Calm down

I am the epitome of calm. Not angry even in the slightest. However it appears that I have struck some sort of a chord within you to elicit such a response

>>81069696
Just accept it.
As fan of both DC and Marvel, Marvel are the only ones who know what theyre doing.
As much as i love BvS. DC is dead

>>81071003
>Fans love whenever Marvel adds a diverse character into comics
Hahahaha

I'm gonna watch it twice just to spite the cucks who hated on it

>>81071003
>What happened that caused everyone to hate DC
Nu52

>>81069835
>Ben Affleck just seething with rage

It's capeshit, it's not going to win awards and it's the same tried (and tired) formula that makes money. That being said I watched it yesterday and it's actually slightly better than everything Marvel has done barring the first Iron man and Avengers films.