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>walking around Disney with the senpai >stop by one of

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>walking around Disney with the senpai

>stop by one of the merch shops

>Frozen area

>see shit like this

So is Disney just not good at portraying sibling relationships? Because every piece of merchandise makes them look like a fucking couple. The comics are even worse. It always feels like Kristoff is getting cucked by his GF's sister.
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what? you never showed affection to your family before?
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>>81045958

>not holding your sister's hands and looking deep into her eyes

>2016

Maybe YOU'RE the odd one, anon. Ever think about that? You insecure faggot.
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>>81045958

I doubt Disney meant for Elsa x Anna to be the strongest pairing, but they sure as Hell don't do enough to clear up that misconception. Every book has Anna hanging off Elsa like a trophy wife.
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>>81045958

>always feels like Kristoff is getting cucked by his GF's sister.

It's the worst Hell, but it's too awkward to call them out on it. Maybe that's just what sisters do? He doesn't know.
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>>81045958
The fact that the name of the product is "Lip Smacker" makes it even more hilarious.
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>>81046294
Are there any sisters, no, any fucking siblings at all, that actually show this much affection towards each other that didn't turn into incest or incestuous curiosity?
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>>81047057

I know a pair of (ugly) twins that do but it's to play up being cute
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>>81046294
His fucking smile makes that panel.
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>>81046233
>misconception
>implying they aren't fully aware of what they're doing and are milking it as best they can without having them carpet munching on screen
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>>81046294
Post the edited version where Kristoff isn't even there.
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>>81046294
Maybe he's just into the idea
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>>81045958
>Best flavor forever
Even Disney knows the best fotm ship, kek
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>>81046294
Are you kidding? Kristoff gets to watch two sexy sisters engage in lesbian incest! Nobody had that until the invention of the internet! He's probably happy as a clam, watching their bearded clams bump & grind.
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>>81046294

Geez, who makes this comic ? is this official ?

they are very lesbian incest.
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>Disney has no idea how to portray any kind of relationship other than love at first sight

>This is new information
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Why am I getting the feeling Frozen is what Utena would be if made by Disney?
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>>81046294
>intertwined fingers
Lewd. Too lewd.
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>>81047438
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>>81045958
>cucked
>by a woman

um i would just call that a win

watch a woman fuck your woman

thats a win
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Oh they smacking lips alright.
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>>81045958
Sisters do gay shit like that all the time.
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>>81048313

Not my family sisters
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>>81046294
>live in eastern europe
>we don't really have a thing westerners call family planner / organizer here
>if you translate it in our language it sounds / reads like it is something for people who plan to have a family
>saw a translated Frozen one last week
>Elsa and Anna holding hands on the cover

/frz/ was right
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>>81047850
Lesbian sex is dull as dishwater.
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>>81048261
Fuck off, beta cuck.
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>>81048407
You gay, son? Lesbian sex is the best. You get twice the amount of all the good stuff and none of the bad stuff.
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>>81048261
Bro don't do that, it's a slippery slope.
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>>81048690
h-hot
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>>81048468
You shouldn't fear the penis anon, it is your friend. Without it it's like watching two sockets rub together.
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>>81048817
Whatever you say. Watching a naked dude have sex still sounds pretty gay to me tho.
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>>81048227
This edit makes it seems less suggestive than the original.

It says more that they both completely ignore him when he's right there.
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>>81048817
>being gay
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>>81048756
I agree
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>>81048844
>Elsanna
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>>81047994
Holy shit this makes so much sense
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>>81048926
Lesbians are by definition gay.
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>>81048690
Goddamn I have MAD respect for that lesbian. She got hers.
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>>81049134
Yeah, but they're the pure hot kind of gay.
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Itt: Why doesn't this thing for 7 year olds realistically portray human relationships?
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>>81048690
lmao
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>fucking couple
Oh, you.
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>>81045958
The central point of Frozen I was that the love between the sisters turned out to be the true love that saved them both. Also a central theme was that they've been separated and extremely lonely for all their lives.

So the love between them and them being reunited is the central theme and also the biggest emotional moment in the movie, thus it's also everywhere in the merch.

What Disney does suck at is showing love in a strong yet non-romantic way, they seem to fall a bit too easily into the standard "expressions and looks of love" imagery which tends to veer a bit towards the romantic, but they're not a couple.

It's just unfortunate that all of the deluded shippers hang on to it and tell each other it's "stealth canon" and Disney of all companies totally intended their Princess line romantic musical targeted at preschool-age girls to positively push lesbian incest.
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>>81050028
>Disney of all companies totally intended their Princess line romantic musical targeted at preschool-age girls to positively push lesbian incest.
Would be fucking hilarious, though. Just imagine the meetings they'd have about it.
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>>81046233
>Every book has Anna hanging off Elsa like a trophy wife.
You know she had a whole massive musical number about being excruciatingly lonely and trying to get Elsa to notice her, right? That she spent ages 15-18 alone without really interacting with any family members, right? And now that she finally has a family again and everything is cleared and her sister doesn't hate her, the only deduction you can make from her being affectionate is "trophy wife"?

>>81049239
Itt: incest shippers circlejerking
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>>81050071
The execs would get literal death threats from enraged parents though.

It's so ludicrous as an idea, it constantly baffles me that behind all the "oh of course we know it's not true, we're joking" assurances it seems a large-ish part of elsannafags honestly do believe (or want to believe) that Disney would, in some small way, really intend the sister's relationship to read romantically. Disney. In a movie directed at preschoolers. Lesbian incest.

"Stealth canon", they say, or a "between-the-lines message" or whatever, that surely at least some animators at Disney intend for them to be lovers but they just can't be open about it because of the judgmental attitudes of society or some bullshit like that. "They know what they're doing!"

I could somehow buy it if it was just lesbians, but incest? Sibling incest? How deep down the shipping rabbit hole does one have to be to believe in that shit?
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>>81050171
Come on, they haven't seen each other for 10+ years, during which their sexual development took place. They are barely even siblings at this point, more like separated childhood friends.
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>>81050171
>it seems a large-ish part of elsannafags honestly do believe (or want to believe) that Disney would, in some small way, really intend the sister's relationship to read romantically.
Maybe on plebbit or dumblr. Though those do make a large-ish part.
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>TFW you only like Elsanna stuff because it's cute, and can't give a fuck about all the logic or truth behind why it can't happen
Thank god for rampant shippers with drawing talents.
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>>81050242
>muh westermarck effect
I'm going to assume you're not trolling just because I've seen elsannafags repeat that shit to each other like the holy gospel.

The "separation will remove the immediate family romantic attachment block" theory is just a theory and hasn't been proven to be constant, and even in cases where it's been observed it's not about "the years during which the sexual development happens", it's about the years during which you form emotional bonds with your family members i.e. very very very early infancy, it'd have to be so early you don't consider them your sibling because there wasn't enough interaction or you were removed from their presence before you considered them a member of your immediate family.

By the time they were separated, Elsa was already 8 and Anna 5. They had formed a very, very strong sibling bond, as the movie makes clear, so strong a sibling bond that even at age 18 Anna gets nearly teary-eyed just reminiscing about how fucking close they were when she was 5. They also weren't truly separated, since Anna spent such a long time thinking about Elsa, her sister, trying to lure her out to play. Seeing how Elsa was outside her room in a couple of shots and also in the book A Frozen Heart indicates that it's not like they didn't see each other in over a decade, they just didn't interact. Elsa on her part acted like the responsible caretaker older sister and kept very strongly acting in that role throughout the movie, so she also sees Anna as the little sister she, the older sibling and head of the family, would have a duty to protect.

All this delusion about "they don't count as siblings because they spent some years slightly estranged" is ludicrous. Family bonds don't just reset like that.
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>>81045958
Is Lip Smacker really legit?
Is this an actual thing?
lmao
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>>81050028
No interest in Frozen shipping but
>Guys Disney has never put anything into any film that isn't designed for the adolescent, target audience.

Okay, buddy.
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That is the most disgusting fucking piece of official /co/ merchandise I've ever seen. They actually support incestuous relationships.

>>81048227
Also, who fucking talks like this? I've never seen any siblings ever who are this mushy gushy nice to each other. Disney is heavily implying it.

Incestuous relationships are not only not morally right, but ruin our genepool. Supporting incest means you support the end of our species. It just doesn't work like that.
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>>81050597
Preeetty sure Elsa and Anna can't impregnate each other.
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>>81048389
I'm a "westerner" and I have no idea what a family planner is either.
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>>81048690
>listening to /fit/ will cost you your balls: The Post
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>>81050255

I think that Disney is willing to flirt with the appearance of an incestuous relationship between them without ever committing to it in any way, shape or form because they've seen that doing so unintentionally and/or surreptitiously up to this point has been very commercially successful for them. If they can continue to make art of them that SORT OF looks like a pair of lovers but which they can laugh off as being "just sisters" when challenged on it, then they get the revenue from both groups of fans, which is all they really want anyway.
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>>81050597
Actually single generation incestuous pairs can benefit the genepool.
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>>81045958
>>81046294

E: Can you stand very still and close your eyes?
A: Eh... Okay!
A: What are you doing?
E: You'll see!
A: Tell me now!
E: Stay still...
A: How long do I have to wait?
E: Just look at the ice!
E: I made a message for you...
A: You're great, Elsa!
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>>81050989
Oh god, it's even gayer in Dutch.
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>>81050989
>Last panel
>Bedroom eyes and blushing bride expressions
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>>81051040
Not surprised, I used google translate for this, though as a swede I understood quite a bit without it.
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>>81051089
A Swedish girl I talked to was oddly fascinated by the Dutch language, I guess this is why.

For some reason characters always sound younger in my head when they speak in Dutch.

But back to the main topic: Elsanna shenanigans.
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>>81050646
It is a calendar with writing space for young families to help the kids keep up with their tasks and responsibilities.
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>>81048690
>being this autistic
Fuckinglol
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>>81048690
how are you supposed to read that? what kind of brain problem did the person who made that have?
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>>81048817
>doesn't even know about dildo harnesses
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>>81047184

>all around me are familiar faces, worn out places
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>>81047878

WHEW, LAD.
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>>81050989

>literally inside a pink heart Elsa made for her, holding hands, with Elsa giving sly bedroom eyes

DISNEY, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
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>you will never magically lesbianpregnate your little sister
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>>81050541

It's basically lip-balm, anon. But the tagline should be:

"Because nothing tastes better on your lips than your sister's."
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>>81051541
>with your magic hands
>>81051573
Holy mek.
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>>81048313
Close friends can do it, but I haven't really seen sisters do it. They tend to quarrel more. Kind of sad that they left the "Life's too short" song out of the movie, that seemed like it could've highlighted the love/hate sibling dynamics.
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>>81051520
source on that gif?
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>>81048844

"When you said your sister wanted to join us, I didn't think this is what you meant."
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Frozen: incest
Zootopia: furries
Gigantic: giantess

Bravo DIsney
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>>81048690

This guy sounds like a mega-douche, I can't feel sorry for him.
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>>81051666
Tangled: foot fetishists
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>>81051666

Disney: Promoting degeneracy before it's in style.
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>>81051628

Shimoneta.
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>>81049179
Take it from me, they are cunning warriors and you don't want to mess with them.
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>>81051745

Tackar djupast.
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>go to see Frozen with two normie-ish friends, one of them is even a mom
>tell them "Yeah, I heard if you squint, the two main girls look like they're in a romantic relationship or something."
>eww anon, aren't they sisters? isn't that incest
>after movie
>Mom: Jesus anon, they really made it obvious they were lesbians, didn't they?
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>>81051666
>Zootopia: furries
When I first saw the trailers I knew it for sure. Disney did it again. A new generation of little Johnnies and Janes will feel funny in their pants looking at anthro rabbit, with all her cute mannerisms, and at a sly, suave fox.
Go-Go Gadget Furry!
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>>81051923
You made me remember the 9 year old elsanna shipper girl
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>>81051929

Robin Hood redux.
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Why is degeneracy so cute?
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>>81048690
This story's probably fake but that lesbian would be an amazing villain in a story.
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>>81052130

That's what makes it so insidious. It SNEAKS in on you.

Steel yourself against this heresy, brother!
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>>81052155
>Villain
Why would she be the villain?
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>>81052130
>degeneracy

This is not /pol/, bruh. No need to keep up the pretense.
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>>81052312

...You're right, I just want to post Elsanna art.
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>>81051929
Anthropomorphism is as old as the human race, though. It's a function of the human mind. I think it might be one of the things that made us good hunters. Animals hunt by seeing prey, and going after it. But we, we play mind games. There is no other long distance runner like us on the planet. Over short distances, animals are faster. But over long distances, humans are the fastest species on the planet. So we don't run after something for a few minutes. We run for days.

But if you hunt prey for days, you have to track it. We can learn to read tracks, but we can also do something else: Place ourselves in the mind of the prey. Is there a watering hole nearby? The prey will probably go to that, if they are exhausted. Some type of terrain this type of animal prefers? They will go there.

Of course, evolution isn't a great planner, so that exhibits itself in human and animal (and human and object, etc. etc.) characteristics being constantly mixed in the human mind. And because people constantly think of sex, we'd probably have to go back to the Stone Age to find the world's first furry.

Pic related. This is the third most expensive statue in the world. And it's 5000 years old.
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>>81051987
The what?
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>>81050547
>ever anything anywhere
or
>full-on sibling lesbo incest is a-ok, kids
>what is middle ground

Do you not understand that pop culture references or double entendre jokes are a very different thing than actually, legitimately promoting lesbian sibling incest between the lines?

It's like arguing that someone who isn't a raging straight edge teetotaler must be a total junkie who's happily done everything that exists under the sun, since if they regularly use some intoxicant, using every intoxicant no matter how strong must be fine with them as well. But it's not like that, there's a difference between having an occasional beer and regularly doing heroin. The same sort of differences in gradient exist in adult content and themes, too.
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>>81052665
No, it's like arguing that hurr durr maybe Disney knows exactly what they are doing with this kind of shit because they aren't fucking stupid and have been making children s movies for decades with multiple levels in them.

But no, clearly they just haven't noticed that there's a large amount of people that are viewing the movie and related products as lesbian subtext, and they just so happen to continually release media reinforcing that subtext.

Because, you know, that makes more sense.
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>>81049048
I mean, we have heavily implied but not outright stated lesbian and incestuous undertones. Would Disney ever adapt Utena for a western audience it wouldn't be that different, I guess.

>mfw Disney has just started the lesbian apocalypse.

>>81051573
>>81050541
I guess from now on "lip smacker" will be code for "hot lesbian incest".
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>>81052665
>Trying to talk logic
>In a thread about fictional lesbians, monitored by a bunch of horny men/women that just want to look at lesbian hanky panky

What you said makes sense, but it's lost on these red ears.
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>>81052644
Story about a dude that went to the movies to watch Frozen. A little girl shouted "KISS HER!" when the two sisters hugged near the end if I recall.
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>>81052840
I'm perfectly okay with looking at hand holding.
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>>81047994
Now I'm just pissed that Anna never turned into a car.
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>>81053129

That sequence was fucking nuts.
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>>81052779
>oh shit there's some people interpreting the sisters as having a lesbian relationship
>I know, let's intentionally reinforce that

Seriously time and time again I marvel at the Elsanna fandom, who's actually managed to convince themselves that Disney, of all companies, is totally intentionally supporting their lesbo incest ship in their massively popular princess film, and intends the sister's relationship to read romantically because of all dat sweet incest fetish money to be made (which totally outweighs the potential damage to the Disney brand).

Can you imagine what would happen if any intern who'd be there in a production meeting where they'd acknowledge that yeah let's make them seem gay, like in a romantic relationship, we want people to get that impression too would mention it to the media? "Disney is trying to make your kids think gay incest is cute, former worker confirms"?

You think that makes sense, really? Because incest fetishists are such a well-known large and lucrative target market, it makes it worth the risk of soiling the already extremely lucrative family values kiddie brand?
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>>81051666
>>81051694

Well at least i can fap to Incest & Foot Fetishes.

Fuck Furries & Giantess.
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Frozen Fever didn't help.

>Anna literally following the red string of fate with Elsa.
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>>81052872
>A little girl shouted "KISS HER!" when the two sisters hugged near the end if I recall.
Fucking give that kid a medal.
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>>81053187

Not even that anon, but it amuses me that you get so worked up over it.

You're not going to convince them and they're not going to convince you. Any rational person would have left the thread, but you just keep banging your head against the wall.
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>>81052350

Pretty sure now that Disney actually wanna make a lesbian princesses but they are afraid of shitstorm & losing money so they change it to sisterly love.
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>>81050541
"Lip Smackers" is an iconic lip balm line that's been around since the early 1970s.
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>>81053197
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>>81053267
>you will never date an '80s/'90s girl
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>>81052312
>dyke sisters
>not degenerates

Pick one and only one
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>>81053285

Take this shit to /aco/, you pervert.
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so ermmm

Whatever happened to /frz/? I know they got their own chan but it seems long dead now. Did they migrate site or just fizzle out?
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I remember seeing footage of the Frozen street parade at Tokyo Disney. The people playing Anna and Elsa get super affectionate and it's pretty adorable.
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>>81045958
>very piece of merchandise makes them look like a fucking couple.

That's just your socially underdeveloped psychosis making you think that.
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>>81053233
We all have our pet peeves, I'm glad I could brighten your day. I'm also pretty sure part of the problem is that elsannafags have been left alone to circlejerk and convince each other that the stealth canon and muh westermarck and other such bullshit could actually be legit. They've been repeating it to each other so long they've started to think it's possible, so in a way it's important to break the bubble even occasionally, lest they start to think that "everyone" agrees with them or their interpretations are widely accepted
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>>81053341
>long dead
If you call two weeks long...
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>>81053267
Oh, thanks for the explanation. I don't think that brand's available around here, and OP's picture looked just really confusing and hilarious.
...hell, even after finding out that it's a brand name, the image still looks pretty funny.
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>>81053416
U wot? All I know of is their own chan they made after being kicked off here and that died within a month. Did they move to 8gag or something?
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>>81053460
no, snowchan was up and running till around 2 weeks ago when the mod decided he'd had enough and shut it down without warning
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>>81053460
>a month
Kek. Sure was a long month.
And maybe.
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>TFW the world based on this in Kingdom Hearts 3 will be announced soon, possibly even with it's own fucking trailer.

At least then the worlds based on good movies can start getting announced.
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>>81053496
Can't blame him, all that was left was the easily triggered esl porn spammer.
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>>81053496
>>81053499
Ah right I see, surprised it lasted that long. I had a link but it was ded last I checked, which was a long while ago, so I assumed they just had their fill.
They managed to last a long time.
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>>81053558
>Kingdom Hearts 3
>coming out
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>>81052312
You know man, I love you're, but lets not pretend that Homosexual incest is not turbo degenerate.
Granted, this is also hot and some times cute.
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>>81053129
I feel Anna would be more suitable to be the one car transformed, given their personalities.
>tfw you will never watch Elsa and Caranna breaking through a wheeled Arendelle.
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>>81048690
This reminds me of that guy who got his girlfriend stolen right in front of him by joan jett

lesbian cucking is honestly the funniest kind.
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>>81053641
Things got quiet around May last year. It wasn't a pleasant place since.
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>>81053341

they now move to eight chan frz
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>>81053651

Trailers have been shown with Tangled, Big Hero 6, and a new Hercules confirmed and apparently it's coming out in 2017.

Which I call bullshit.
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>>81053418
Yeah, but it's pretty much the same as Pepsi or Coca-Cola doing a variant label for Star Wars or Transformers or something. It's not that exceptional for make-up companies to license a popular pop culture brand to boost sales and ride on the hype
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>>81053693
You forgot to post a porn picture.
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>>81053558

>Moral of Frozen is "power of sisterly 'bonding'"
>Sora is a boy only child who either loves Kairi or/and has a homolust for Riku.
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>>81045958

>can't even sit next to her at dinner

At least that reindeer is baller as fuck.
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>>81047057
>two thousand and fucking sixteen
>not sucking your sister's dick in a non-romantic way
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>top Disney movie is about lesbians
>top anime is about lesbians

Feels good.
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>>81053341
they moved to infinitychan where the mod is a militant elsannafag who edits and deletes posts supporting other ships or disagreeing with the incest porn greentexts, and bans people for days for critizing him.

If you love elsanna, and especially love endless purityposting about magical ice penises and various ways to exchange bodily fluids, you might like it. But it's not /co/ /frz/ any more, except in name.

You see for example >>81053826
>not sucking your sister's dick in a non-romantic way
It's just that, all day, erry day. And the occasional porn flood.
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>>81053851
>lesbians
Anon-kun…
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>>81045958
>Not cuddling with your sibling
>Not holding their hand or giving them affectionate kisses
It must suck to be a guy
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>>81053895

Use proxy & spam porn on those site.
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>>81053972

What if anna loves both ?
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elsa couldn't switch the reindeer and anna?
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>>81053895
>magical ice penises
What is wrong with you?
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>>81054038

meant to quote

>>81053802
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>>81053986
I got banned because I dislike porn in the first place and said it, I find it a bit distasteful, so I'd rather not. It'd be too ironic.

Besides /frz/ already has their resident porn spammer who even migrated with them
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>>81047963
God dammit. It syncs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
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>>81054064
Please clarify the question. You mean why don't I like magical ice penises on girls? I'm not into futa or traps at all, and magical lesbian incest futa even less. Are you trying to shame me for my sexual preferences, shitlord? :^)
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>>81053985

Sh-shut up!
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>>81048844
This is perfect.
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>>81053895
That mod is my hero.
>>81054138
Depends. Are you into regular lesbian incest?
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>>81053802

Oh man, that's rough.
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>>81054214
Not into incest in any way, no. Nor lesbians.
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>>81048690
They both kind of seem like shitty people, it's hard to pick a side
Pretty hilarious though in a depressing way
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>>81054276
Even fictional?
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>>81054288

>sex in the bath

Now you have my attention.
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>>81054291
Not really, no. Fictional romance that happens to feature lesbians might be passable if it's done very well, but I have zero sexual interest in women so most of the "it's twice the amount of hot chicks" appeal is lost on me, and incest squicks me out
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>>81047071
Twins are pretty much a whole different story. I dated one and it was such a weird dynamic. She told me once that she had a hard time dating and keeping a boyfriend because in some ways she felt like she already had a 'life partner' so to speak. There was just no penetrating that bond, you'd have to be really comfortable with being the third wheel.
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>>81054400
>"it's twice the amount of hot chicks" appeal
I don't think it's what's appealing to the majority of elsannafags, me included.
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>>81054288
why do people tie their long hair up to bathe in fiction? I used to have long hair and I never did that, how are you supposed to wash it?
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>>81054545
They don't want it to get wet because it's a bitch to dry, so they're not going to wash it either. For some reason they only want to wash or soak the body.
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>>81054523

>implying they didn't switch off sometimes and you weren't aware
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>>81054525
I thought you asked about my attitude towards lesbians in general, not elsanna specifically
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official merch thread?
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>>81054288

>washing hair in the bath

That's filthy water.
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/frz/ was fun.
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>>81054660
Well, it is a Frozen thread, so I assumed that's what we're talking about.
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Frozen fanbase in a nutshell
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I guess it's the one thing Disney's shows aren't vastly inferior with.
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>>81054816
Who makes these and why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW9MkEYetLY
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>>81054748
Nice boat.
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>>81054523
I was online friends with some identical twins years ago. They used the same account and acted as if they were one person (saying "I" instead of "we", never appearing to have any disagreements about what they wanted to type, and so on). I don't know if they always typed everything together, or if I was sometimes chatting with one of them and sometimes with the other. But even though I knew they were twins, most of the time I couldn't help thinking of them as just one person.
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>>81054777
I see. Well, I'm not at all into elsanna either, as you may have deduced. Since you seem to have asked, I think it's a highly OOC crackship and find that most shippers or fics seem to, I don't know how to put it, harness the likenesses of Elsa and Anna to portray an ideal lesbian relationship. But really often, like in the most popular fics for example, the characters aren't Elsa and Anna from Frozen at all..
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>>81048313
My experience with both my brother and sister is that things bounce between "partner in crime/confidant" to "that annoying shitstain" with incredible speed. It's never just pure gay stuff. We know how to get on each other's nerves far too easily and it's far too tempting.

This is honeymooning with no end in sight. It's bizarre.
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>>81050028
There is a subset of Elsanna shippers who genuinely believe in stealth canon, but a good portion doesn't give a shit about canon but how they'd look and act as a couple, which can be said of literally any fandom with noncanon pairings out there.

It's just a lot easier to find Elsanna-like images from canon sources because, like you said, the expressions and imagery doesn't differentiate its platonic from its romantic very well.
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>>81055058

I don't know anyone who acts like that with their sister, but then I'm also American and we have weird hang-ups about skinship.
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>>81050171
Given that, at one point, Anna and Elsa were not related, and that Frozen was a rushed mishmash, I would believe that Disney had been flirting with the idea of love saving two unrelated women but didn't dare make them obviously romantic or gay, and that those elements hung around throughout rewrites and edits unintentionally.

Directed incestual subtext? No. Rough draft sneaking its way into the rushed final product? Possibly.
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>>81048690
>Has the convo screencapped
>is worried his gf won't believe him
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>>81047493
I know I would.
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>>81054953
>in the most popular fics for example, the characters aren't Elsa and Anna from Frozen at all.
Most popular fics are also utter shite.
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>>81045958
Belive me, they know exactly what they are doing
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>>81055252
Money?
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>>81051666
Princess and the Frog: Transformations(?)
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>>81053558
>atlantis and treasure planet never
Those two were my gulty pleasure
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>>81053895
You're still buttmad about the mod telling you to chill out?

It's not Easter yet, can you please get off that cross?
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>>81054748

Kingdom my ass.

Arendelle is so small.
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>>81048690
BTFO
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>>81055241
This is also true.
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>>81051666
What about tangled and demolish it darren?
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>>81055351
what?
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>>81047963

syncs to this too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzGb0vqWT4Y&list=PLdn-ofF6-0oZKl6cDrm7A-gRfNXwk1qSz&index=36
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>>81055524
Tangled was already done, it's foot fetish.

Wreck-it-Ralph is femdom/bigger girl, smaller guy.
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>>81045958
*smacks lips profusely*
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>>81053668
>got his girlfriend stolen right in front of him by joan jett

Dude, what?
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>>81047736
Personally I think Sven is best flavor
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>>81055773
Took me a second because of the different characters.
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>>81055789
>Olaf is coconut snowball
Ewwwwwww
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>>81055773
I don't get what it's supposed to portray.
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>>81055789
Or Judy Hopps?

Damn these look quite nice, I want one now
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>>81054953

I do think Elsanna doesn't really work with Anna's character, and I like the sisterly relationship too much to see anything romantic or sexual there.

That said, I could see Elsa holding hands and eating sandwiches with girls. Maybe that cute brown princess that lives a ways over.
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>>81055841
That's your loss, newfag.
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>>81055841
run, before this place corrupts you
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>>81055926
I would be happy if, in the sequel, Elsa meets a cute girl and opens up even more. It doesn't have to be overtly romantic, and I highly doubt Disney would make Elsa obviously gay, but keeping male love interests out of the picture and introducing more female main characters would allow people to dream without Disney taking the hit for having a gay character.
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>>81055938
Thanks, bro.
>>81055969
>before
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I want to see them both fuck dammit
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>>81055983

This. If Disney were to do it, this is how it'd be.

Couch it in a close female friendship.
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>>81053851
>top anime can't get the fucking sequel out because Urobuchi can't think up a script and we have to wait what feels like 3 years between shitty prequel manga chapters that don't have any impact in the long run
Don't remind me.
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>>81055841

loss.jpg
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>>81053802
They are eyefucking each other.

They are so eyefucking each other.
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>>81045958
They're gay m8
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>>81056097
Holy shit.
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>>81053895
>They said the place with multiple nazi-related boards was for freedom, but it turned out it isn't any better than the free message boards run by teenagers for their circle of friends from the 00s
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>>81055926
Marisol is top qt. Begs the question of why is there so little fanart/fics of her.
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>>81056174
She's in one book.
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>>81056174

because Marisol only exist in one frozen official story book
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>>81055926
If it wasn't a Disney princess film, maybe. We haven't seen anything of Elsa's sexual preferences since she's mainly been convinced that her touch is lethal and she's a danger, and stressing out about giving Anna the best birthday ever out of guilt for her having had a shit childhood because Elsa was such a freak the parents had to shut the gates.
She hasn't had the time to relax.

However, realistically I think she's too profitable and too high-profile to be Disney's first positively portrayed gay human character ever. The problem is that by the time Frozen II rolls around, it's too late and too risky to suddenly out her as gay after parents have for years believed the princess their preschooler daughter is idolizing and pretending to be is straight.

I'm sure that all the gay positivity recently and even the popularity of elsanna will lead to Disney having a gay character sooner than anticipated. But the first one won't be in a princess in a romantic musical directed at little kids - it might be a side character in a movie like Zootopia, where the themes and jokes are more mature to begin with, and they don't hope to sell glittery dresses to children dressing up as the character in question. It def won't be their most profitable character in recent memory.

They might just keep her a spinster though.
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>>81054869
/x/ has some theories about it. Concensus seems to be that these games are made by chinese companies that work in hopes of making little girls interested in medicine. Of course, they are chinese, so everything is completely off and you get Elsa's brain surgery...
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>>81056098

You just described every Frozen mini-comic.
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>>81045958
>Lip Smacker
HOL UP
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>>81056197
>>81056212
I just expected tumblr to get right on that, they like to ship everyone with everyone and are prone to gay hysterics. Hoped this time the hysterics would be relevant to my interests.
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>Elsa and Anna are sisters
>father is a ginger, mother is a brunette
>Elsa is a blonde
let's face it: their mom probably screwed someone else and their dad tried to pretend it was nothing
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>>81056229

Zootopia already does.

The two neighbors aren't brothers or roomies. They share a last-name, but are separate sub-species. They snuck it in.
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>>81056273
White hair is just the ice magic because symbolism.
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>>81056273

If she's a heterozygous carrier of the gene, they can still be blonde.
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>>81056268
Maybe if it had been a comic instead of a book. Not because people are anti-reading but because books for princess movies tend to be written for a lower reading level whereas the comics, which are also simplistic, at least have nice pictures to look at, so they're not so boring.
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I want more drunk Elsa.
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>>81056273
Blonde hair can come from gingers/brunettes.
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>>81056174

Not many people of the right age read A Warm Welcome, I imagine is the reason.

>>81055983
>>81056070

>Frozen 2 involves Elsa exploring the idea of other people who can do magic, and actually ends up finding some
>One is the villain, while another is a new friend the sisters make on their adventure inspired by the Robber Girl from The Snow Queen
>She bickers with Elsa a lot and annoys the crap out of her by stealing things, including taking and finishing the sandwiches Anna packed for them, but over time they establish an odd friendship when circumstances force them to work together
>They never do anything more than hold hands a few times during action scenes, when it makes sense for them to do so, and some coordinated magic vs the bad guy, but this is more than enough material for the internet to work with.

>>81056229

Yeah, I wouldn't say Disney would do anything overt with a character as prominent as Elsa. Still, I feel it works for the character established so far.

>>81056273

I assumed that's just magic at work. Anna's hair starts to turn white because Elsa's magic is affecting her.
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>>81056312
Elsa has blonde hair, not white.
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>>81056240
It's a very well-known and old brand. That's like getting all excited about COCA-cola holy shit guise cocaine amirite
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>>81056381
Fair, then. Fair hair.
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>>81056356

I love Anna's middle panel face.

>"Gettin' real tired of your lightweight shit, Elsa."
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>>81056372
Or you could make the robber girl the villain and the other a new friend for the sisters who's shy but sweet, like Elsa.

Gives Elsa the choice: go for the dashing, if frustrating, rogue who makes her feel passionately, or the safe and cozy option?
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>>81056239

Hey, do you have the full comic of this ? thx
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>>81056356
>grabbing Anna's boob
Sneaky.
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>>81046294
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>>81056464
>Kristoff revealing his relation to Wreck-it-Ralph
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>>81056290

>mfw when I just realized this

Well, shit.
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>>81056464
>And then he was beheaded for verbally assaulting the royal family
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>>81056431

While I despise love triangles, I have to admit I wouldn't hate that.
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>>81056290

http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Bucky_and_Pronk_Oryx-Antlerson
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>>81056290
They're also not humans. The first official gay relationship in a Disney animated movie is Hugo the stone gargoyle and Djali the goat in Hunchback of Notre Dame.

But yeah, getting there, slowly testing the waters. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they did have Frozen II be trailblazing and, indeed, have it be the first movie where there's a canonically gay character.

It wouldn't be Elsa or Anna, but some rando new side character they've just introduced, but still. Progressive!

Oh oh maybe it could be a red herring love interest for Elsa? A new dashing prince they tease for half of the film they're setting up with her and then boom, actually this is Richard, my special friend?
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>>81056523
>>81056290
Some soccer mom is offended enough by this to try and take Disney to court
>our hopes and dreams of gay disney princess are gone
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>>81056437

http://imgur.com/gallery/JVyca

Quality is shit, but there you are.
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>>81056464

I want a series of escalating situations where he tries to catch them in the fact, only for them to have a totally innocent explanation each time.
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>>81056551
>Richard, my special friend?
Ricky sounds more appropriate.
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>>81056551

So go the Paranorman route?
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>>81056560
>Disney lawyers laugh so hard their triple chins set off shockwaves
Yeah Disney might steer clear of onscreen gay relationships in its big films out of fear of losing revenue BUT there is no way in hell a court battle would go anywhere else but in their favor, regardless of the circumstances.

The mouse is loaded with sharks.
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>>81046294
Sure...they're "Sisters" Like these two are "Cousins"
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>>81056290
And they gave them a dysfunctional relationship. I dig that. It's realistic. Every couple has problems, some worse than others, and some of those dysfunctional relationships happen to be gay. That's pretty damn progressive in the right way.
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>>81045958
>/frz/ has won.
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>>81056560
Well I mean Steven Universe got censored in France, UK and a lot of other places for being too gay, and it features agendered space rocks in a CN series that can afford to have some episodes sliced up a bit by the censors
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>I told you I was hardcore.
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>>81056577
>Anna goes on a "boat trip" with Olaf, but not with Kristoff
Poor guy, being cucked even by the cononut snowball.
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>>81056629
It's Dick. Richard shortens to Dick. Huehuehueheuehue sorry

>>81056632
Could be fun? Also think of the relief all of the people who've headcanoned Elsa as a lesbo would feel. There might be cheering in the audience.
Possibly also booing, if the hot herring prince would look like Jack Frost from ROTG
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>>81056690
Really? What was censored?
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>>81056577

>that exchange in the final panel

Jeeeeesus. What is this snookie-wookums sweet-talk? Did they just get married?
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>>81055841
Lurk more faggot
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>>81056551
Well, as long as they don't tease Elsa getting too into the new dashing prince.
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>>81056756
I feel like a lot of people would be insulted by that, on both sides of the issue. Anti-gay because...gay, and pro-gay because they would rather Elsa being gay not be turned into a "gotcha!" joke to the audience.
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>>81053802
>the reindeeer
that's a little subtle symbolism
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>>81056822
So it's Kristoff who cooks?
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>>81055351
How can I get off it, when the ban is still nailing me to this dank /frz/less torment? You don't know my paiiiin, my mod, my mod, why hast thou forsaken me

Also
>buttmad
you don't understand nuance or tone, my boy
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>>81055351
If you're referring to what I think you're referring - I wasn't even angry then!
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>>81056854
Oy gavelt, just listen to this mashugana whine. Mary, you want to explain yourself?
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>>81056758
France changed Garnet's I am made of Lo-o-ove into I am made of fri-e-e-end-ship and essentially tried to make it look like Ruby and Sapphire are just really good friends, and the UK censored large chunks of the Rose and Pearl fusion dance from We Need to Talk. Other stuff too, I think, but those are the ones I remember off the bat.
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>>81056900
But by God will you make sure everyone knows that you're not angry and weren't angry and are innocent and the modding sucks.

Grow up.
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>>81056931

>the gayest country on Earth is afraid of gays

WUT
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>>81056943
What are you even on about?
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>>81056991
If you don't know it's not your conversation.
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>>81056810
Gay people finally getting an officially gay human Disney character who's a good guy for the first time ever, and then throwing a bitch fit because they wanted the most popular and profitable Disney princess in recent memory, not some rando dashing prince in an insanely successful franchise sounds a bit unlikely imo. I think the "holy shit an officially gay character and he's awesome this is amazing" would overwhelm the "baaw it was supposed to be Elsa herself".

(Also in the scenario speculated on here the gay character would be male, so Elsa wouldn't be teased as gay at any point.)
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>>81056900
ohohohohohohohoohohohohooo I see you, vile impostor
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>>81057135
Oh, I thought you meant that Elsa would be the gay one.
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>>81057012
Then you're obviously referring to a different thing than I though you were referring to. No need to get so angry :^)
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>>81056174
>>81055926

Here is the book if someone wants to Read it.

https://my.mixtape.moe/qkavui.rar

no password or anything suspicious
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>>81050460
The westermarck effect has been shown to be pretty bogus
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>>81056991
He's butthurt about other people (me) criticizing things in a manner he interpreted as being butthurt on a different chan, and is complaining about it having been referenced here in a butthurt manner, because nothing makes him butthurt like the rampant, unchecked butthurtness of others. Therefore he's chastizing the wrong anon trolling him by pretending to be me, and is showing how much he hates people getting butthurt by taking it all very seriously, getting upset and telling people to grow up.

It's a trainwreck of annoyance, misinterpretations and people sharply voicing their disapproval over the inappropriate behaviour of other anons :D
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>>81057299
Even better.
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>>81057387
>It's a trainwreck
Sounds about right.
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>>81056080
Which anime?
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>>81052872
>>81053228
post link pls
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>>81052483
Humans can't run for days. We can jog for a day maybe, and walk indefinitely, but so can wolves. Canines in general are better endurance hunters. Humans stab shit when we get tired of chasing it.
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>>81057135
Honestly, I think now is a perfect moment for Elsa to be gay. The zeitgeist has changed enough that they'd come out with more popularity than hatred.
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>>81057588
we will out walk dogs
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>>81052872
that story was already confirmed fake even when it was posted
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>>81057675
It might, possibly, be tolerated or liked more than it's outright hated, but a good sized fraction of the audience would be disappointed that Elsa didn't get her fairytale prince.

The safest option would be to introduce one or several female main or side characters with whom Elsa strikes up a friendship while she continues to reject male suitors or doesn't interact with them at all.

Think about how people kept buzzing about how Merida might be gay because, as a 16 year old whose personality is all about freedom, she didn't want to be in an arranged marriage for life. Elsa refusing male attention will get at least some people believing she's intended to be gay, add in those female friends and you've got more options, while Disney can still rest comfortably on the knowledge that it hasn't explicitly made her gay so they can deny accusations easily.

And it keeps people talking about it, too, while ultimately allowing both pro- and anti- Elsa being gay camps relatively happy because both see their side as having proof or the other side as having none. Neither side is unduly offended and Disney reaps the monetary benefits of Elsa on the big screen again.
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>>81048690
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>>81054285
>it's hard to pick a side
That means it has depth.
>>
Jesus fucking Christ, why are you faggots back? Don't you have your own shitbox to circle jerk into?
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>>81057864
Why should Disney be denying anything? I mean, sure, it makes sense from a conservative profit-eating standpoint, but... maybe it's just me, but I really, really hate lesbian subtext (I have no emotional reaction to anything with gay men because I have no interest in men either way). It actually annoys me more than just not including lesbians at all; fuck, I just want to see women who are into other women being able to fucking say so without having to fucking dance fucking around it. Anything like that, to me, would be an awful precedent to set.
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>>81048844
KEK
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>>81057960

I kinda have to agree with this.

I like lesbian characters just fine, but subtext people deny if asked about or bait-and-switch is just annoying, as is girl-on-girl purely as a cynical attempt at fanservice.

Unfortunately, being overt about that shit tends to be risky and marketing tends to be gutless, so dancing around the issue tends to be the order of the day.
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I hope Elsa gets married in the sequel, because lesbians are consistently the worst fucking people on the planet.

Then again Elsa is also a huge disappointment in every since of the word, so I guess it would make sense if she was a lesbian.
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>>81057960
Don't get me wrong, I agree that subtext is a copout. I just mean that that is what Disney would do because middle of the road is where the profit falls and it can keep its stance as a safe, family friendly company instead of "taking a side" or something.

Still, I see subtext as the first step towards acceptance. I don't see Disney doing something like making a main character from an exceptionally profitable franchise gay, but I do see them making side characters gay, and then main characters questionable, and then gay main characters, and finally a gay romance. I don't see them skipping right up to the last two at all: they'll want to test the waters and see if their image, their brand, remains intact. And I'd rather have that evolution than have them continue to produce boring heterosexual romance (not that heterosexual romance is boring, but specifically heterosexual romance that IS boring, simply because they don't want to imply the gays by failing to shack a character up to a bad love interest).
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>>81056273
Blonde is reccessive. They could both carry the gene yet not be blonde themselves
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>>81054661
Underrated pic, holy shit.
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>>81054661
That...
That's gotta be something where you can personalize the text.
Disney cannot possibly be that dense.
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>>81058129
I don't doubt that Disney would do it, but I'll never support this and firmly believe that it's wrong. I mean, side characters being gay, fine, and not having romantic plots for certain leads, okay, but don't fucking jerk us around with this "questionable" bullshit.
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>>81057588

That's one of the reasons wild dogs were such a good fit as human hunting companions. We're both long distance hunters.
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>>81058275
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, then.
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>>81058264
>>81058225

It's a gift a girl gets for her close female friend, not lover.

That's how it's marketed, at least.
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>>81054661
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>>81057415
Bogus as in, people aren't automatically unattracted to each other due to growing up together, and people have actually been shown to be attracted to people who look like themselves. The incest taboo is most likely cultural, not innate.
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>>81058264
It's actually a common statement. Your friends are the family you get to choose.
People are just being dense because their context is they want them to be fucking.
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>>81058331
>people have actually been shown to be attracted to people who look like themselves
>mfw doomed to 2/10s for the rest of my life
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>>81058292
Do you not agree that subtext is a copout?
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>>81058401
It is a copout. But it's the first step towards not, and I'd rather Disney be taking those steps than staying straight. I'm willing to accept some dickery in the chance of future improvements.
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>>81058426
Well, I suppose I've remained in my not-Disney-watching bubble for well over a decade, and that this can continue for as long as it needs to.
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>>81054869
These have to be malware, I can't think of any other reason for them to be out there.
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>>81056229
>Disney having a gay character sooner than anticipated. But the first one won't be in a princess in a romantic musical directed at little kids - it might be a side character in a movie like...
The shopkeeper in Frozen was openly gay, bruh.
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>>81058484
No he wasn't.

And Disney already had an openly gay character like seven years ago at this point
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>>81058484
No he wasn't. The man in the sauna was young enough to be his son. There's an adult woman on the righthand side.
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>>81058305
I get that, but using the word "girlfriend" in the platonic sense has been on the decline for decades, and coupled with the other accidentally-suggestive Frozen things, that jewelry set is like a cherry on the unintentional-innuendo sundae.

It's like watching a small child pointing excitedly to a rooster on a trip to a farm and shouting "COCK, COCK!" The kid has no clue about the alternate meaning, but every adult or older kid in the know is either trying to stifle a giggle or mentally tune-out until it passes.
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Nothing is gayer then those two in OUaT
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>>81058628
There's nothing worth watching in that show, so who cares?
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>>81058628

Frozen Fever is the only thing gayer.

>"I'm sorry I ruined your birthday."

>"Elsa...The greatest birthday gift I could have? Is taking care of you."
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>>81058759
EVERYTHING in that show is worth it.
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>>81053802

Sir Deerington
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>>81053802

This artist seems incapable of not having them make bedroom eyes at each other.
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>>81058810
Do they run off into the woods together and have adventures and save nations and fight demons and armies and become awesome bros and have songs sung about their exploits?

Please tell me they do.
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>>81058810
pic not related, right?
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>>81049239
because that's the entire concept of disney
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>>81058861
We don't know yet?
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>>81058861

I wish, anon.
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>>81052130
>blonde pompadour
xD
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>>81057433
Nigger you best be niggering.
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>>81045958

this is why japanese people love frozen
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>>81059201
the japanese have never been known for their taste.
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>>81055378

>Arendelle
>small

Is it though? I don't think they ever mention the size of the kingdom during the movie at all.

And if Arendelle is considered small I feel bad for the Southern Isles.
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>>81059148

My onii-banchou can't be this cute.
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>>81059230
>inb4 Arendelle is just one castle
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>>81054661
Christ, they're really just fucking with you at that point. Also that is tacky as fuck.
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>>81059261
Maybe the capital city is also called Arendelle?
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>>81059230

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arendal

It's based on an olde version of this.
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>>81059335
Inspired maybe. It's not a fucking carbon copy, same as the kindgom isn't Norway and SI isn't Denmark.
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>>81059394

Just like San Franciso is San Fransokyo, in BH6.

Though a ship from modern Arendelle is seen in the harbor in BH6.
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>>81059261

Ugh. That's just as bad as those people who insist Arendelle is just a tiny city state.

Which is hilarious because that's basically what Weaseltown is.

https://vimeo.com/133112248

Duke can't catch a fuckin' break.
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>>81059230

the region is big. yeah

but mostly is surrounded by empty mountains
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Another Marisol...maybe she's pre-islam arabic?
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>>81059714
She's Moorish Spanish.
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>>81059230

So maybe elsa is just queen of that little town ?

maybe many kingdoms in arendelle ?
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>>81059633
What is this from?
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>>81058628
Do you think Goodwin is happy that she's finally in a Disney production that is actually good?
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>>81059714
Doesn't Frozen take place in 1840's?
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>>81059714
Have the fans actually done anything with her?
There ought to be some people that would love for Elsa to fuck a brown-ish queen.
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>>81056687
Holy shit they created something that can make chinks stop doing math

I never realized how dangerous Frozen really was until now
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>>81059905
It helps that people don't have to see her chubby ass on TV
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>>81059731
Is Southern Spain a desert?
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>>81059969

>1840

why revolver doesnt exist in those movie ?
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>>81059969
In disney's 1840s, which doesn't have much to do with our 1840s.
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>>81060079
It's Europe.
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> Disney Merchendise
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>>81060159
oh wow
they even got actual lesbians to be the models for the figures.
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>>81057675
>the zeitgeist has changed
Steven Universe got censored in UK and France among a lot of other countries. Korrasami - well, it was the last seconds of a show that was already over and which wasn't gonna make any money selling dresses and other merch to presechoolers, and also came from a company that didn't have a solid "secure family values" reputation, and the whole show was also directed at a much older demographic.

It's not the "perfect moment" for Elsa being gay. She's too popular, too profitable, the target audience is too young, the Disney Princess and Disney brands in general too squeaky clean for her to be suddenly turned gay.

Seriously the population in general is receptive and accepting of gay characters, all right, especially if they're in YA or adult oriented franchises. But it's a completely different thing when an insanely popular character 4-year-olds worship and pretend to be would be suddenly turned gay; "hey kids, this cool character that you've all adored and imitated so much it's driven your parents crazy for the past 4 years? Well, she doesn't like boys, she likes girls now! Isn't that cool? Don't you want to be like her?"

That would NOT go over well. It's a different thing to be accepting of gay people and be supportive of them appearing in the media, and then a completely different thing to have a brand you trusted declare your preschooler's ultimate idol since 5 years is suddenly a dyke.

And of course on top of that you'd have the audience segment hoping for a fairytale prince for Elsa etc.
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>>81059969

Disney 1840 is weird

Bicycle doesnt exist until early 1900s
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>>81060291
It is not a different thing. I understand Disney's profit motives perfectly well, but if you have a problem with some kid-appeal character being gay, then you have a fucking problem with gay people. If Disney's afraid of pissing off minor homophobes, fine, but they are and remain homophobic. Don't call it what it isn't.
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>>81058331
>incest taboo is most likely cultural, not innate
Suuure, it just happens to be very widespread over the ages and cultures, apart from families who presented themselves as demigods too divine to copulate with humans
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>>81056671
In just the American dub.
In the manga Uranus was reincarnated as a man, so their relationship made some sense. It is kind of like cross dressing.
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>>81055378
It's from the Frozen Summer Fun event they had at Disney Hollywood studios back in 2015.

They played the arendelle history 101 clips at the hyperion theatre lobby while people waited to get inside.

Sadly, that seems to be the only clip of it on the entire god damn Internet.
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>>81058484
Oaken? No. That's the fandom stubbornly interpreting things wrong and then repeating it until their headcanon became true in their mind.

In the sauna, you see a family; a grown man, a grown woman in the movie's style with the towel covering her breasts, and some kids. In the concept art, again you see a family with mom, dad, grandma, and some kids.

It's a prime example of how desperate people are to misinterpret things to fit their headcanons, but Oaken was nowhere near "openly gay" no matter what tumblr tells you
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>>81060399
Many royal families, you mean.
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>>81057588
You need to educate yourself, anon.
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>>81059417
>>81059394
Not "just like", the map looks different in the Frozenverse
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>>81060465
Oops, meant to reply to this one.
>>81059809
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>>81060474
>towels
>in the sauna
There is not a single fucking thing right about this. Fucking american corporations destroying my culture REEEEEEEE
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>>81060641
If it helps, Oaken has a traveling sauna in Frozen Fever and, what with the steam and what it shows, I think the general implication is that he is not wearing anything.
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>>81060367
>minor homophobes
>parents who'd have a problem with Disney suddenly telling their kids the character they adore now likes girls, not boys
>minor
I don't think you understand how parents think. Most have no problem with gays. Most also absolutely would not wish for their own child to turn out gay if they could help it. Elsa being suddenly turned into a lesbian after years of being non-denominationally assumed normal (=straight) would not go down at all well and would cause a massive shitstorm, because it'd be seen as brainwashing little kids. Straight parents are not a "minor" target group for Disney, it's where the main money comes from.

You can call it whatever you want, but Disney won't risk it.
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>>81060292
The word fractal didn't exist until 1975.

And here Elsa's using it in the 1840's.
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>>81060478
Sibling incest? Not at all, apart from ancient Egypt.
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>>81060707
>Most have no problem with gays. Most also absolutely would not wish for their own child to turn out gay if they could help it.
These statements are incredibly logically contradictory.

>You can call it whatever you want, but Disney won't risk it.
I know.
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>>81060589
Holy shit I recognize that castle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PlRSG7Rmmg
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>>81060777
Not really. Being gay can mean your child has a harder time fitting in, finding a life partner, not experiencing discrimination, legal or otherwise, outside the family or within it, and they might not have children. Grandchildren are pretty important for a lot of parents.
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>>81060839
Then it's society they'd have a problem with, no? If they have an actual problem *with their children* when their children happen to be gay, that's fucking disgusting.
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>>81060777
>These statements are incredibly logically contradictory.
>>81060839 is right that for some parents they don't want their kids to have a rough life, but for a lot of parents they're probably just homophobic but don't see it that way. "I'm okay with gay people as long as I don't know any personally" is a pretty homophobic way of thinking.
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>>81046294
> that last panel
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>>81060700
Eh, it helps a bit I suppose.
At least Witcher had it somewhat right.
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>>81048468
I can't watch porn without a self-insert, pun intended
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>>81061195
Wh-what pun?
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>>81056046
*their respective boyfriends
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>>81056623
>Come and knock on our door
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>>81060839
Shit won't change until people's way of thinking changes, not the other way around, but I think this isn't the place for this discussion.
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>>81053851
It's not clear which anime you are referring to, because those two are Love Live characters cosplaying as Madoka Magica characters.

Then again, both were brutally successful.
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>>81061195
I've been on 4Chan for 7 years, now. This is the weirdest fetish I have heard of.
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>>81061434
normal porn is a fetish to you now?
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>>81061434
>weirdest
Far from. Still pretty sad.
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>>81060291
Who cares if she likes boys or not. Nowhere in the movie does it show Elsa's chasing after boys, the romance is focused only on Anna. If Disney says Elsa is officially gay, then there's nothing changed about the perspective of the movie unless you're an incest shipping fan, which most kids aren't.
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>>81051666
Moana: Delicious Brown/Bara
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>>81061451
Inserting yourself into porn.
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>>81061451
We've come full circle, pun also intended.
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>>81056475
>Anna and Elsa are hobbits
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>>81060977

Kristoff has a hard life.
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>>81054635
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>>81050989

>holding her in the middle of a giant heart

Come on, son. My sister would hit me and call me a faggot if I did that.
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>>81048690
Honestly that guy sounds like a bit of an asshole and an idiot, the lesbian is a huge asshole though, I have no sympathy for either of them
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>>81048690

Fucking Fionne.
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Those two in the comics are even more intimate than the movie.
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>>81061491
People are talking about Frozen II and what Elsa is shown doing there, as in who is she shown to end up with, not just statements regarding Frozen I.
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>>81060960
>"I'm okay with gay people as long as I don't know any personally"
That's not at all the same as "I'm okay with gay people but I don't want my child being one as I really want grandkids and also don't want them to be ostracized and bullied"
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>>81060292
Bicycles DID exist in the 19th century.

But that bicycle is an intentionally anachronistic mix. It's made of wood with rigid metal-lined wheels, which is accurate for 1840, but has a chain drive that was invented in the 1880s, when no one made bicycles out of wood anymore. I guess they had to make it that way for modern audiences to recognize it as a bicycle, and also because the mid-19th century velocipedes couldn't be ridden in a dress.
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>>81062060
It's not that different. Grandkids aren't exactly difficult to come by even without PiV, and the latter is just stupid, because what should logically come of it there is "I don't want there to be bullies and ostracizers around."

Of course, if you're fixated on your children having children, that might be a problem itself.
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>>81061971
what a weird thing to embrace over
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>>81062125

They're all like that.

>Problem.

>Elsa finds a way to fix it.

>Anna tells her how amazing she is and engages in severe displays of affection.
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>>81048261
I thought the same until one I got with a girl who had a lesbian friend and I hated that bitch so much.

Lebian friends get the straw armor of the gay friend except they might actually want to fuck your woman. And they probably do or they wouldn't have made friends with her in the first place.

The perspective of it is not nearly as pleasant as you think, when you're with a woman there are powerful mechanics at work.
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>>81062247
Even for a children's book this is pretty bad writing.
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>>81062277
plus it doesn't help that lesbians are the worst people on the planet.
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>>81060777
>These statements are incredibly logically contradictory.
Well, no. I'm sure a lot of people for example don't have a problem with people who have chronic health conditions, people who are poor, or people who are otherwise living life on hard mode or being discriminated against. They wish these people good luck in their life, care about them having the same rights as other people and so forth. There's no "problem".

But yet, they very, very, VERY much hope their own child won't end up as a part of that demographic and are willing to go to great lengths to keep that from transpiring.

Now, you're going to say that a sexual identity is in no way comparable to an illness. True. But still, it's not an advantage, it's a hindrance; being gay will make your life more difficult than being averagely straight. How much more difficult, it depends on the circumstances, but life would most likely be easier if they were straight or "normal".

As much as you'd like it to be different, one's child being gay is not really a cause for celebration. Some parents accept it with grace, some don't accept it at all, some react with inhuman cruelty.

But it's still a thing to accept, not a thing people hope for. It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.
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>>81056080

They aren't making more Madoka because they are concentrating on finishing Monogatari.
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>>81062333
Only half of 'em. They other half are usually sweet enough to put up with their shit
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>>81062369
Personally, I think lesbianism is an advantage; I don't have to deal with idiotic gender politics in my love life, though maybe the Internet made those seem worse than they really were. If I ever had a kid, I would be quite happy if they were gay--not happier than if they were straight, per se, though the logically "best" sexual orientation is probably bi.

>It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.
I understand. It's unfortunate that many parents who would otherwise be good have that homophobic streak.
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>This thread is still here

I thought they banned frozen general
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>>81062462

I started this thread as a joke, but I like where it's gone.
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>>81062456
>I understand. It's unfortunate that many parents who would otherwise be good have that homophobic streak.
Parents are not really homophobic, it's just that if you're shallow enough to want kids then you'll probably just want your kids to blend in as your ideal scenario.

Parents want their kids to EXCEL, which is why they like seeing good grades or a career with lots of money, or a baby or two. These are objective, quantifiable achievements that you can be proud of and society doesn't ever look down upon.
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>>81062931
Plenty of parents aren't homophobic, hopefully, but wanting your children to "blend in" on that matter and being upset that they don't does not fall under "not homophobic."
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>>81046146
>Implying a guy can do simple shit like that without being called X

Jokes aside.

>>81046294
I hate this decade of lesbians, perceived lesbians, and lesbian accesories everywhere.
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>>81063045
Well, then, we can both hope for the day when lesbians are no longer something "special" and are simply ordinary and equal to heteros, yes?
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>>81063148
all lesbians should be shipped off to some island that can be easily nuked.

The world would be better off.
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>>81063179
t. someone cucked by a lesbian.
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>>81063275
>t.

I've been seeing this more and more.

What the fuck does it mean?
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>>81048690
>Actually going for a threesome in any case
It's like this nigga didn't see what happened to Ross. If there's a 30% or any percent chance of getting fucked over and eaten by a crocodile beneath a bridge as you cross it, would you really want to take that chance? Same thing for marriage.

Dumb question. Should you take that chance? Idiot got his due. This is some Hanlon's Razor shit here.
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>>81062456
>>81063022
>wanting what's best and easiest for your child is "-phobic"
I can see you're very good at repeating things you've been taught, not so much at grasping new notions though
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>>81063312
"Sincerely" or "signed by"
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>>81063312
Some meme from /int/ where a guy posted his signature and it looked like "t. <name>"
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>>81063312
Like spurdo, it's a meme originating from Finland.

"Regards, XX" at the end of letters or missives in Finnish is written "terveisin, XX" (direct translation is "with greetings"). This is often shortened to t. especially in things written by children, like letters to Santa or such.

So it indicates the sender of a message, in a way.

t. finanon
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>>81048844
She really doesn't want to be apart from her sister, does she.
>Nah it's cool, I don't care if you fuck right next to me. Nah I'm good, I'll just here and read. You two have a great time!
>Pst, Her buttcheeks are ticklish
>Sits back, holds her sister's hand while reading and as she goes through orgasmic contractions.
>Brings them breakfast in the morning.

I wonder if she's asexual. Either way, platonic, loyal siblings are the best ever.

>>81048891
I'd say not inherently, but when you factor in the conditioning you go through from repeated exposure... at the very least it's a gayteway to be sure.

Is it weird that I don't find the concept of lesbianism arousing or attractive, but I'm fine with seeing it in porn?
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>>81063337
you're mistaking what's best for your child with what's easiest for you as a parent
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>>81060399
Cousin fucking was common all the way up until modern times.
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>>81063337
This >>81063704 guy's got it right.
Sorry anon but if you're not homophobic then you're a coward.
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>>81063704
this absolutely
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>>81063704
>being gay affects the life of the parents more than it does the life of the person themself
You genuinely believe this stuff?
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>>81063720
cousins are not your immediate family, unlike parents and siblings
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>have 3 adult sisters
>can never show more affection than a brief 0.5 second hug to either of them
>when I try to embrace them some more or kiss them they call me gross and pull back
Why, why.
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>>81060399
It could simply have roots in very old culture. Humanity didn't pop up in separate places across the earth.
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>>81064112
Shouldn't have left your incest comics out in the open, anon.
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>>81048844
Made me laugh loudly. I am not entirely sure why, but this is the funniest thing I've seen in a while.
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>>81064055
Living in immediate vicinity with your extended family was also another thing we did up until fairly recently
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>>81048844

>Kristiff's reaction face
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>>81064112
Because you're male, duh.
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>>81064112
>could have had access to all the sister pussy you could've ever wanted
>if you were female
Feels Bat, man.
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>>81064270
>>81064367
Aw man, what did I miss?
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>>81065035
Kristoff fucking Anna, both tastefully naked (no visible nips, they have sheets covering from the lower back down), Anna is in some kind of bliss, with a glazed hazy look on her face, laying on her back and staring lovingly off to the side. However, Anna's left hand is extended, outside of their coital embrace, and gripping the fingertips of Elsa, who is wearing a conservative nightgown, and just sitting up in bed, reading by oil lamp. Rifht next to the lover's embrace. Kristoff, despite being in mid-thrust,
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>>81065035
Life of Bjorgmann
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>>81065035
http://imgur.com/YRgcWjN
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>>81065852

That's not even that lewd. When did janitors go conservative?

Can someone be emotionally cucked?
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>>81065852

>fucking as hard as you can, but she's only looking at her sister.

This is the worst pain.
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>>81066061
No, him realizing he's not nearly as good at fucking her as her own sister is is the worst pain.
Or her waiting for him to get on with it so her sister can finally have her turn.
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>>81066172
Then what's the point of keeping him around?
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>>81066226
He's the beard, for Disney's sake.
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>>81066226

1800s. Peasants don't want to suspect the Queen is fucking her sister.
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>>81065852

You'd think two sisters in bed is great, until you find out one isn't into you.
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>>81066269
>>81066260
Then what's the point of fucking with him?
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>>81066320
Cause Ice magic can't make kids.
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>>81066320
Well they need an heir.
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>>81066360
>>81066362
Then what's the point of fucking with him regularly?
Then what's the point of not using a turkey batter?
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>>81066320
It's the heir thing.

For some reason, I feel like writing a schmoopy greentext about Anna really not wanting to sleep with someone besides Elsa, but Elsa being there to give moral support.
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>>81066413
*baster
Fuck.
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>>81056356
How about Elsa drinking tea?
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>>81057588
Humans are long-distance hunters. That's how we beat the wooly mammoths, by running them until they keeled over.
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>enjoyed Frozen for what it was
>Can't escape ElsAnna incest discussion everywhere
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>>81066007
Because Frozen General shit is banned
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>>81048690
>Getting /fit/ but still acting like an autist

All of that is his own god damn fault.
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>>81066413
You really think ONE fucking will instantly lead to heirs?
Repeated sessions increase chances of that, m8. Kristoff could really use the girl's sister (and actual love interest of the aforementioned girl) not staring at him during the deal, though.
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>>81066856
Well, the answer to that question is exactly why I'd love to see the aforementioned greentext about Anna needing emotional support from Elsa to have sex with someone else.
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>>81066856
>this amount of mental gymnastics to justify some shitty pic
Kek.
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>>81066634
You can thank the "LET IT GO WAS TOTALLY A EUPHEMISM FOR COMING OUT OF THE CLOSET AS A LESBIAN NOT JUST A CHARACTER GOING HER OWN WAY NO WE HAVE TO SHOEHORN STUPID SEXUALITY BULLSHIT INTO A KIDS MOVIE THAT THE CREATORS NEVER INTENDED" crowd for that. That idea combined with them being close as sisters spawned all the incest fetishism.

Not that it's a problem. If you want to beat off to cartoon sisters fucking go for it. I just hate that it spawned a whole stupid controversy as if lesbian incest was actually what Disney was going for in a kids movie.
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>>81066979
At first I was totally fine with it. But then the frozen turned into a general, and then the shippers started to get all militan about that shit once they ran out of shit to actually talk about.

Now not only can I not stand their shipping shit, but I can't even enjoy any kind of lesbian aspect in anything any more. They've poisoned lesbians for me. I can't even enjoy the porn anymore.
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>>81066979
I actually had my brother tell me Let it Go could be about Lesbianism. He's a total normie as well and probably hasn't even heard of the likes of tumblr and shit.

I'm assuming he picked it up from Twitter, but the thing is it's sort of hard to really disprove because the lyrics are pretty vague and if you want to interpret it a certain way, then you'll probably just see it that way.

I don't know where the notion even came from though, when talking about "Letting it Go" you'd think of maybe some secret you were holding or something. Whilst Lesbianism can qualify as that, it's also not what springs to mind when I think of secrets
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>>81051541

That's pretty fuckin' cute.

Magic dick makes all things possible.
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>>81065779
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>>81067174
>>81066979

It's meant to be general.

It's accepting whatever part of yourself that you hide away from other. Maybe it's that your gay, maybe that you're into a certain thing way hard, it could have a thousand applications.
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>>81051541
Their daughter was in Yugioh Arc V.
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>>81067274
It's meant to be a villain song.
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>>81067305
It didn't feel very Hellfire to me.
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>>81067305

It was originally going to be a villain song.
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>>81067305
Love is an Open Door was the villain song.
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>>81067088
I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure your condition is called 'being a faggot'.
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>>81067442
>>81067390
>>81067436
Just imagine Jeremy Irons singing it. They never even changed any of the words.
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>>81066317
>You'd think two sisters in bed is great, until you find out both aren't into you.

FIFY
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>>81067220
I posted this, and it is my favorite piece of Frozen fanfic ever.
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>>81067657

That's just mean, anon. She clearly likes the guy.
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I heard they intend to have Elsa and Anna find out they are not biological sisters, but only adopted sisters. Then they realize their love is no longer forbidden...

...or at least only sorta forbidden.
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>>81068540
Lame and actually pretty dumb.
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>>81068540
>only sorta
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>>81066594
We threw pointy sticks at them till they bled out. We cheated.
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>>81068540
there's a bridge in New York I'd like to sell you.
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>>81069175

There's no cheating in nature, nigga'. That implies nature has a sense of fairness in the first place.
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>>81051541

Holy shit, that is cute.
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>>81060159
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>>81069524
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>>81069230
It does mean we're not nearly as durable though
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>>81069998

Evolution likes to min/max. It's hard to built stats that are high in every area.
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>>81070030
Min/maxing in nature is terrible. It gives you shit like cheetahs. Versatile organisms are best organisms.
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Why does Elsa remind me of the woman from Rocky 4
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>>81070397
they're both written and directed by people with a tenuous grasp of the English language?
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>>81070397

Similar looks and frosty demeanors.
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>>81046294
He was raised by overly affectionate and disguasting rocks. Sex is a completely foreign concept to him. Do not weep for the simpleton
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>>81070851
>Kristoff probably thinks that he'll start growing mushrooms on his chest when he gets old enough
>thinks of himself as a child still because he hasn't had his first mushroom yet
>at least he has plenty of moss
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>>81066486
Yamino's works are always so incredibly stiff.
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>>81071024
she got internet famous with a noodle arm carton.
makes sense that she cannot into actual structure.
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>>81071066
But usually that means characters are loose and flowing. This is just...blocky.
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>>81071096
No, I've seen it before.
she's used to not having any structure, so when she has to do it she goves overboard. She probably doesn't understand that you're allowed to break your characters bones and joints if it makes the picture better.
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>>81071177
I see what you mean.
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>>81071272
basically she's thinking too much about it, rather than letting it happen
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>>81045958

>It always feels like Kristoff is getting cucked by his GF's sister.
It's like I'm literally reading Elsa is Suffering.
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>>81046294
>>81047878
>>81048227

Jesus fuck that's gay.
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>>81068064
That is a large, open room whit huge windows. Would be impossible to keep warm in the winter.
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>>81059417

>Though a ship from modern Arendelle is seen in the harbor in BH6.
What?
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>>81073100

Remember who owns the castle.
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