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>I INVOKE THE ANCIENT POWER THAT I MAY RETURN Why did Alex

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>I INVOKE THE ANCIENT POWER THAT I MAY RETURN

Why did Alex even bother dropping this hint? We all know he burnt his bridges and this show nor Bill isn't ever coming back.
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>>81019066
It was a shout out to everyone who wanted gravity falls to come back and get another season
It's not- "Everyone help me get another season"
It was- "Haha, let's hope that someday I get more work in this industry"
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Didn't you already hear? He's given Bill to some other persons show. Hasn't told which one yet. Apparently its going to be some kind of surprise eventually. Pretty old news at this point. You really should browse some of the existing threads.
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>>81019066
dfi
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Comic Book route is the only possible way it can go. They'd never be able to get the animation back to how it is, they'd have to get the whole team back on board for it to be the same, and that's not possible after everyone has already split ways, and who knows how long it'd be before they decided to do it.

Comic means all you need is an artist and I guess Alex's input. Maybe Jason and Kristen would do an audio read of it to resemble an episode.

Bottom line, Alex will eventually need to find work again, go to Disney, comic special, end.
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>TAKE THAT RICH PEOPLE WHO WERE AT WORST A MINOR NUISANCE TO THE MAIN CAST! A CRAZY BUM WHO SOMEHOW GOT RICH OCCUPIES YOUR HOUSE NOW!

Admit it, this shit was even dumber than the fucking Danny Phantom "Tucker becomes Mayor of Amity Park" ending.
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what the fuck is gravity falls even about
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>>81019066
Villains say "I WILL RETURN" all the fucking time, even for series with definitive endings.
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>>81020102
It was about the mystery until Hirsch decided it was all about the characters.
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>>81020057
>"Tucker becomes Mayor of Amity Park" ending

I never bothered with season 3 and now I'm glad I didn't see it.
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>>81019257
If that's true, then I'm willing to bet on Rick and Morty. That'd be some shit.
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>>81019066
It was just another thing alex shoehorned into the finale to make it seem deeper than it really was.
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>>81019257
>Alex handing over a Disney IP
>because he can do that
you know absolutely nothing, retard
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>>81020186
I doubt it would be on another station, even if they did already do that tiny cameo of bill.
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>>81020140
He should've just taken credit for the mystery and codes cause he did a horrible job with the characters.
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>>81020057
Really? That was what upset you the most about the finale? Not the convicted sociopathic child taking a heel face turn?
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>>81020140
It was about the mystery until fans figured it out, and then Hirsch was like "LOL shut up faggots, it's just a children's cartoon!"
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>>81020264
>escaped jail with the other inmates
>they were allowed to go to playgrounds and do whatever and not be at jail
>nothing ever come of the others except gideon
>they are likely still raping and killing
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Hey guys, remember when this was a thing?
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>>81020285
Did he really expect no one would be able to deduce the plot of a cartoon show for children?
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=KodNFsP6r88
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>>81020388
He probably expected kids to slowly work out everything over time, maybe he'd drop some hints about some things the kids aren't getting.

He probably never expected a bunch of adults scouring the show religiously and solving everything within minutes of an episode being aired, and then doing their best to post it everywhere so no one else can claim they figured it out.
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>>81020285
>ITS JUST A KIDS CARTOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *snaps Dippy Fresh's neck*
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>>81019066
This is probably one of the best "villain shouts that it's not over" scenes ever. It's very satisfying to watch. That said, I doubt it means anything in terms of future Gravity Falls content. It's just Bill doing the desperate villain thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyyhDYgloWQ
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What activities do you think Mabel and "Mabelfied" Dipper would do?
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>>81019257
Pretty sure its disneys property.
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>>81023520
Karaoke, constantly.
Sorry, I tried to think of something dirty for you to enjoy, but singing bad songs is just too true to not say.
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>>81023580
Thanks. I only wanted SFW activities. I should have clarified on >>81023520.
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>>81019715
Gravity Falls doesn't scream comic to me, I see the series continuing as chapter books.
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>>81019257
gr8 b8 m8
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BOOM! made comics of some old Disney shows after they'd been over for decades. The same thing might happen with Gravity Falls.

That said I think the Bill thing was just a nod to the big fans, among who Bill is very popular. Casual kids watching won't hear the message and if they wanted to bring Bill back for a comic book they'll still have to explain how he came back.

So it just gives fanfic writers something to reference in their gay little fanfictions.
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wow, I just watch the show over the coarse of three weeks and I have no idea why there's such hostility over the finale. Maybe because I wasn't involved in weekly threads decoding messages and I guess it sucks that the major mystery was solved in the season 2 mid-season finale.
but I always thought the show was about the characters, and really enjoyed the emotional arcs.

I guess I mark the quality of a show and a finale by how much it leaves me pining for more. I don't think a show has made me so incessant on a continuation in a long time
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>>81020057
>I dont like this show
>why
>its mean spirited
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He did it so if he fucked up at fox he can come back , BUT HE FUCKIN CANT NO MOAR
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>>81025109
The problem is that for a show that claims to be about the characters. Most of them are one dimensional and have little to no development. Mostly because the second season was rushed.
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>>81024820
I really want a model of the journals with all the creature info and notes inside it
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>>81020374
Yeah, whatever happened to that?
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>>81019066
Villains always make big threats
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>>81025449
exactly that is coming out July 26th
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>>81025449
I was hoping that's what the book was going to be along with extra info.
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Why can't you judgemental fucks be like China and Japan and just draw unrecognizable pictures of Bill Cipher as a hot chick instead of nitpicking everything.

Where's your cartoon show?
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>>81025109
Hostality comes from seeing what everything the series has been building up to ending with a poorly written, hastily put together finale.
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>>81023520
Well if not a threesome with Pacifica, probably normal things like makeup, since Mabel complained about not having anybody to do that with.
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>>81025921
(I am also enjoying Dipper and shota Bill's borderline illegal Japanese adventures.)
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>>81026140
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Dipper being hypnotized by Mabel to think and act like her.
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>>81026829
The thinking part of hypnosis is what gets me. Or when they lose ability to think AT ALL or maybe they are just beneath the surface not quite connecting but they know a little deep down what they're actually thinking.
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>>81027268
In fiction that's all good though in real life I think hypnosis is mostly bullshit.
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>>81026829

So does Dipper think is actually IS Mabel or just Mabel's twin sister, because if he thinks he's Mabel how does he explain the "other" Mabel, does he think she's a fake that needs to be eliminated or what
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>>81020057
>A MINOR NUISANCE TO THE MAIN CAST!
>Were willing to leave everyone to die in the house and they wanted to join Bill just to save their ass.
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>>81020102
A shitty kids show that the Internet lives for some reason.
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>>81020102
A manlet's psychological problems
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>>81019066
Because:
> He's THE Troll Author
> Bill have (twisted) fans
> He needs some cliffhanger just in case Disney throw much more money at his face to convince him to produce some special or similar in the future.
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>>81023574
>>81020233
>>81024892
Probably bullshit, but they can't copyright his mannerisms and Alex's voice, so he could be bill in all but looks and name
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>>81025549
There was a neat fake some anon made once.

I'm pretty sure nobody found it, and I think a lot of us are waiting for journal 3 for clues.
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>>81020233
>>81029353

Fair use parody would probably allow for whacky triangle man to show up in R & M, and with how irrelevant GF will be by the time it happens I doubt disney would give half a fuck.
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>>81030127
I'll admit that I'd really like to see Rick & Morty fight Bill.
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it's been a while
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>>81025921
>implying I don't
I really want to commission a humanized cosplay.
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>>81030490
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>>81020057

Why does Alex hate my waifu so much?
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Is Alex really directing a Sonic the Hedgehog movie?
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>>81020057
But when did... Did he convert his wealth over after the face swap?
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>>81032086

How the fuck did Preston get his face back to normal anyway it bugs me
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>>81027538
It ranges widely, from not working on one person to causing near irreparable damage to another.
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>>81027839
I think the anon means the latter
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>>81030328
These are going to become less frequent as time goes on. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>81026829
What makes Mabel come to her senses and turn Dipper back to normal?
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>>81032153
did you miss the part where everything turned back to normal?
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>>81027538
>>81032159
"Hypnosis" is bullshit
It relies entirely on the subject's belief in hypnosis working and really doesn't hold any power unless the person wants it to. So cases of people acting like chickens at a hypnotist's command are just people wanting to act like an idiot and have an excuse, or in a more serious case, reaffirm their denial of an event or their blocking of a certain memory the subject wants to block anyway.
So in the loosest sense it works, but you aren't going to turn a manly man into a bimbo slut who JUST LOVES COCK. Without them loving cock before
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>>81032811
His face went back to normal BEFORE everything went back to normal, before they did the wheel shit and it failed and everything, remember?
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>>81033274
maybe i wore off
maybe it was an error
maybe thats a really small detail about a no dimensional character that doesn't matter
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>>81032978
Talking to people who are "hypnotized" during stage shows they all say that they were just playing along for fun. I went up once but didn't play along and got kicked offstage. To be fair in that environment it'd be least likely to work but I think at most it's just like mediation a way to be relaxed and maybe focused.
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>>81032153
I assumed it was part of the statue conversion. I'm more curious about the timing, because Bill cursed him immediately after emerging. He had to have converted his money after that event somehow.
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>>81032978
Like I said, it varies from level to level, but the dangers of it are real. Hypnosis is more about the skewing of perception rather than what someone "secretly" wants.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/18/hypnotist-calls-for-backup-girls-canadian-school-trance_n_1605727.html

Another source details how one particular student was stuck in an unresponsive trance for hours.
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>>81020057
I'm just pissed that they wasted a perfectly good joke.

>Weirdness bonds

Fucking really? You didn't have him waste his money buying gold?
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>>81026829
if we're talking about weird Pines Twins AU's I'd rather bring back the Ponderosa Pines idea, basically in some random magical accident Dipper and Mabel get permanently fused into a single person, shenanigans ensue
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>>81034368

Pretty Steven Universe AU right there...
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>>81033369
>maybe i wore off
Hello Bill
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>>81033715
>Another source details how one particular student was stuck in an unresponsive trance for hours.

I call bullshit on that, or rather on hypnosis being a particular cause.

A person on the verge of a nervous breakdown might either use hypnosis as an excuse of sorts or might really go off the rails based on that or any number of events but a person who actually goes catatonic during "hypnosis" has illness issues like catatonic depression or other mental health issues already.
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>already nobody gives a shit about Gravity Falls anymore

makes sense though, at least I still have my Mabifica
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>>81032740
>What makes Mabel come to her senses and turn Dipper back to normal?

Probably after she grows tired of it.
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>>81032740
>>81035727
better idea, Mabel accidentally hypnotizes herself into thinking she's Dipper(albeit one who's a girl), neither one goes back to normal, everyone else learns to live with it even if it's really weird
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>>81035939
Where does she get the suggestion to be like Dipper?
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>>81035584
top taste
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So what was the point of the Bill tapestry in the Northwest manor again? I know Preston had an interaction with Bill, but his whole swearing allegiance thing seemed more like a spontaneous thing then something planned for generations or something like that.
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>>81036037
was thinking that she was trying to hypnotize Dipper back to normal(so putting a hypnosis on top of an existing hypnosis), and massively screws up in the process
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when will Mabel grow up?
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>>81036401
Probably just a weird antique that they picked up somewhere.
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>>81019066
It's typical lovecraftian stuff.

Nobody said Bill would return anytime soon. It's a "when the stars are right" thing. So it could be millions of years from now.

For example
>Alex moves on to new show
>it's sci-fi themed
>suddenly Bill shows up as a one episode villain in a crossover episode
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>>81019066
that mug in the top right corner is too well drawn for a simple backcground item...
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>>81036904
That makes sense
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>>81019066
>We all know he burnt his bridges
what happened?
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>>81037887
What happened? Have you ever seen that little freak on video or social media? I'm shocked Disney put up with him as long as they did.
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>>81019066
Don't you see? It's meta. Bill can keep trying over and over again due to the "ancient power" of reruns and syndication.
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>>81037940
>Have you ever seen that little freak on video or social media?
nope. was never too much into GF and dropped it in S2
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>>81023520
Probably stuff that we see Mabel do in-show, like crush on boys, makeovers, make sweaters, etc.
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>>81037940
>Have you ever seen that little freak on video or social media?

What are you talking about?
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>>81035584
>>81036272
>tfw no more /u/ Gravity Falls thread
>tfw the only GF porn thread consistently running is /y/
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>>81037977
>>81038664
he's hackposting, don't listen to him

he hasn't really burnt any bridges, most he has done is complained with how strict Disney was with episodes length, but really, he can hadly complain with how many shit he was allowed to get away with
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>>81036904
Maybe it can happen like a water balloon fight. Dipper snaps out of it and tries to hypnotize Mabel in revenge, but Mabel has her artifact on-hand and ready.

When the rest of the Mystery Shack staff find them, Dipper and Mabel are acting like over-exaggerated parodies of each other.
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>>81038127
Any drawfriends want to do this? I'd like to request Dipper getting turned into "Mabelfied" Dipper.
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>>81030127
Didnt I make this joke aeaons ago
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>>81039281
By this, I mean Dip wearing the same outfit as Mabel and putting on makeup and eyelashes to look like her, but with different hair and without braces.
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>>81039281
jesus christ, haven't you guys get enough of this topic already
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>>81039043
You can make a thread. They're free.
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>>81019066
"Bill has been banned. They vanquished him, so much is true - but it is not within our power to stop the fan war that ensues now. With his final, furious scream, Bill Cipher has set into movement the armies of neckbeards. It was an order to all NEET creatures. A word of power that they were all bound to obey. His last order was: CShitpost! And they shitposted. All of them. Even the Normies."
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Because Bill is a Dream Demon who can't be destroyed.
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>>81020057
They took a blow to their fortune but managed to recoup enough to still be considered "rich people". I think they're fine.
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>>81025921
Who's the cat girl in the back? I thought it was Black and Yellow at first
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>>81028116
Shut the fuck up, fag.
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>>81044528
It did drop the ball pretty hard in the last quarter.
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>>81039388
There's so much interest in this subject apparently. Maybe Alex's next show should be about it.
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>>81023574
>>81029353
What if it's another Disney show?
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>>81030127
I really really want this but the chances of it happening are so slim. Then again I've said the same thing about other crossovers and they happened so I'm praying whatever mystical crossover power I have will strike again.
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Pinecest and Stancest are
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>>81026685
I thought that was Soos as Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman for a second and I have never laughed harder.
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>>81047086
Bad.
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>>81047086
ok i guess, but its not Twincifica
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>>81047086
Words that end with T.
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>>81047086
>Pinecest and Stancest are

awesome
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>>81025109
It is interesting. I also watched the finale late and really enjoyed it, and I've seen quite a few people who did the same thing and felt the same way. There are (many) flaws, sure, but overall it was well executed. I can't think of many better finales, but I can think of many, many worse.

It's just the hype. People built the show up so much that no ending could possibly satisfy. The finale is 8/10 but people desperately wanted a 10/10.
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>>81029942
http://elementlizard.tumblr.com/post/140947159940/okay-everybody-i-found-this-pic-on-co-comics

Jesus shit where's the archived thread for those images
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>>81050048
>It's just the hype
Certainly. I think the finale would have been a bit more tense if instead of being strictly confined to GF the barrier expanded bit by bit, giving everyone a major sense of desperation.

Now, I didn't dislike it at all. I love the series as a whole and even watch re-runs on DXD if I catch them.
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>>81050190
Never mind I found it

Awesome fake, felt like it gave closure anyhow
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>>81026829
How about instead of just Dipper, she did it to everyone in Gravity Falls?
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>>81052339
Bill goes bump in the night
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>>81051283
>doritos
>not corncornos
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>>81052495
>tfw no dream demon to flatter you into ending the world/universe/reality
Posting Bill now.
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>>81049917
I didn't know he drew gay stuff, or maybe it was a onetime thing.
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>no season 3 with Bill's twin the inverted triangle
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>>81020057
The joke is that Pacifica can only have one horse. They're not broke.

It would've been funnier if they'd followed through with the Northwests being Bill's lackeys though.
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>>81054967
>maybe it was a onetime thing
>artist does your favorite pair
>never does it again
This is not fine.
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>>81020682
Really because five minutes with any other animator'd tell him that, yes, nerds solve any code you put into a show immediately.

Futurama went through I think like three or four secret languages because fans kept cracking it.
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>>81055002
I've been seeing a lot of blue/reverse Bills. Not that fond of it. Humanoid Bills are fun, but despite fitting the character that nasally voice never fits and it bothers me.
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>>81039142
This is actually pretty funny.

Now, hiw does it spiral further out of control?
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>>81033847
You can resell the gold and get your money back, genius.
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>>81019066
isn't it mentioned that bill was defeated a number of times before, but always comes back?
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>>81020251
I can see Rick and Morty having a similar character voiced by Alex who is the very most slightly implied to be Bill.
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>>81055069

The Bill gijinka I like best have weird monster shit like lots of arms, floating body segments, and mouths where they're not supposed to be.

>I've been seeing a lot of blue/reverse Bills.

That's "Will" from Reverse Falls, yeah. Some of the art for that AU is nice. I've never read stories from it or anything.

>>81055205
>isn't it mentioned that bill was defeated a number of times before, but always comes back?

Something like that is mentioned in the video game I think.
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>>81055219
I would love a Rick and Morty crossover. Bill strikes me as the kind to become too exhausted to put up with Rick's demands or would outright deny them given Rick's disposition.
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>>81055205
I think the context of defeated might mean that he was foiled before getting through the rift, I believe this was the first time he was 'killed'.
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>>81055307
Honestly if Bill was in the Rick and Morty universe I think he would be a part of the resistance. All for personal gain of course with him probably intending to backstab them later but their anarchism related goals are up his alley.
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>>81055303
I agree. Demon limbs and just having a flesh body a best. The normal short haired humans are really boring but they make up most of the art. Really hoping I can get into figure drawing because I have a major backlog of porn I want to draw but don't have the skill for it.And there is a lot I want to make of Bill.
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>>81055347

I liked it dramatically but logically the idea that the gun could kill him doesn't make much sense to me. They didn't even set the gun to "Bill Cipher" they set it to "Stan." It's satisfying and also we predicated it months (a year or more?) ago on here but if I think about it it's goofy, but it's a cartoon and everything about it is so oh well.
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>>81055437
Also with how fast Stan's memories returned it's almost certain he wasn't destroyed totally.
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>>81055437
I think that setting the gun to Bill Cipher would only erase Stan's memories of Bill but erasing Stan destroyed his mind to a point where it created an environment Bill could not remain stable in.
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>>81055503
I guess it just seems odd that he wasn't just booted out of Stan's mind/body, I think there was some justification that Fiddleford created the gun as an anti-Bill weapon, but I don't think that was mentioned on the show. I accept it fine it just seems weird if Bill is this trillion year old omnipotent chaos god especially since Stan's memories come flooding back less than five minutes later.
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series finale Bill almost completely ruined my perception of the character.
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>>81055414

I'll always have a soft spot for Eldritch Abomination Bill
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>>81055851
>All the humans see is the pyramid face
I like this.
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>>81055851
>>81055928
Well Cthulhu was just hanging around. Having a true appearance wouldn't be surprising, especially after the answer about his name.
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>>81055928

I really wanted some H.P. Lovecraft ish stuff in the finale, actually my biggest issue with the finale might have been that weirdmageddon seemed really mundane

>>81055765
I think I agree with some people who say maybe bill should have never gained physical form and prevnting that would be what the finale was about esp since the apocalypse was a bust anyway, that would have forced bill to be clever instead of forcing him to be stupid because he was too powerful
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>>81055928
I did have a little theory that Bill's triangle form was the equivalent of a lure on an anglerfish but was not to be unfortunately. Glad he did have a more monstrous form though.
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Haven't checked any sources in a while, was there any information about those two episodes from s2 that were developed on enough to get a production code yet got scrapped anyway?
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Eh I like the floating pyramid bricks thing some people do I guess. too bad most human Bills are boring
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>>81056161
>too bad most human Bills are boring
I agree completely. The best part is the different clothing designs since all of them seem the same but have their own touches to the outfit. Bricks inside the tailcoat, all yellow/black, yellow black white, skirt with bricks, shirt with frills, ect.

My sewing class is working on dresses and I fully intend on making a Bill dress. Pic related, but somehow I have to find a brick pattern fabric for the bottom.
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I found PaDippica stupid the whole time the show was running, but with her in her current state, I wish I could see it now. No one seems to mention how, realistically, the Northwests would have to move to another state and the Pines are the closest thing to friends Paciffica would have anymore.
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I'm not sure where else to ask about this but this Bill X Dipper art has always confused me, is there some yaoi fetish where people absorb other people into their bodies or something?
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>>81056643
Corruption mainly. Emotional manipulation, voyeurism depending for some fanfics, invasion of everything you hold sacred. Things like that. Dipper's a sweet kid, and innocent dears plus bad boys is always a popular thing.
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>>81056607
But PaDippica's not stupid, it's a great idea it's just the Hack only gave it one episode then went back to poking WenDip's shitty bloated zombie corpse.
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>>81056731
Fujoshis are weird
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>>81056607
>>81056775
>not taking the best ro/u/te
I could see it for a season 3. Dipper gets over Wendy and goes for someone his age. But Mabel and Pacifica got more development as a whole.
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I found the claim that Bill raping Mable was big in Japan disappointing. Seriously? They love monster rape so much that they don't find that combo silly and weird?
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>>81056106
>Haven't checked any sources in a while, was there any information about those two episodes from s2 that were developed on enough to get a production code yet got scrapped anyway?

I like how Alex kept saying "oh we can't tell you any more about that because we might use it in a future episode" when everybody knows damn well there will never be another episode ever and he knew it too.
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>>81056853
The corruption aspect I can understand, but all the boring-ass ginjaka versions getting more attention than actual bill bothers me to no end. At least bipper makes some sense, but Bill doesn't seem like the type to desire a human form of his own in any way over his original form whenever a choice would be presented.
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>>81056937
Alex will go to any length to try and feel like a big man.
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>>81056897
>silly and weird
It's Japan. That's their thing. Little girls getting raped is a top seller.
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>>81056897
>They love monster rape so much that they don't find that combo silly and weird?

It's Japan what the fuck do you expect. Monsters raping little girls is their bread and butter.
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>>81057014
It doesn't take much creativity. See Sanic OCs.
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>>81057014
Fangirls who can't fap it to geometric shapes I guess
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>>81054967
only one I saw
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>>81020057
>mfw his new Fox show is just stale jokes about Donald Trump
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>>81057273
>what are tentacles
Talk about base.
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pacificafags are still salty.
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>>81019066
He's giving himself the option of using Bill if he ever wants to return to do another GF related project. Why not? Seems smart to keep your options open.
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>>81020057
Lol it's butthurt polanon again, too much of a pussy to take a toothless jab at cartoon rich people. You're worse than tumblr you sobbing vagina
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>>81037887
Nothing. It's another worn out meme to pretend there was some fallout between Alex & Disney. We all know they're begging him to do a third season but he left because he's tired of dealing with S&P
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>>81056897
if it makes you feel better Bill raping Dipper is huge in Russia

vk.com billdip

>Members
>22,120 people
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>>81057449
>Butthurt Trump supporter
Come on, m8. Dude doesn't give a shit, why do you?
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>>81057636
>S&P
What's that?
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>>81057514
>pacificafags are still salty.

Why do you think that is? Because they chucked the only good female character on the show in the garbage?
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>>81057674
Standards and Practices.

The censors.
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Do you think he's ever accidentally bitten his own eye?
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>>81057449
THE ABSOLUTE MADMANLET
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>>81025109
Sweet gentle newfag. The holtility is mainly due to the hiatuses. Disney made us wait months, years, for new episodes, so in that time our expectations grew to ravenous impossible heights. We had months and months to come up with our favorite personal headcanons between each episode, do we went into a frenzy over the things that didn't meet our impossible expectations, and took for granted everything that was good. I envy you being able to enjoy it all in one go and not get sucked into the meaningless toxic swamp of shitposting and hackposting and other crap that was largely borne out of our frustration with Disney's schedule practices.

(Another portion of this comes from whiteknightanons who were upset about Alex breaking up with his girlfriend. Any time you see a meme about Alex's height or his dad or whatever you can guarantee that it's from an anon who just jacked off over Hirschs ex, possibly while crying)
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>>81056937
He still could. He has said that he might return to GF one day. Why do you try to assume the worst about every little thing he says?
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>>81057883
Experience?
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>>81057806
>Another portion of this comes from whiteknightanons who were upset about Alex breaking up with his girlfriend. Any time you see a meme about Alex's height or his dad or whatever you can guarantee that it's from an anon who just jacked off over Hirschs ex, possibly while crying

the jokes about alex were happening waaaaaay before manzi broke up with alex.

if anything the "whiteknightanons" are the ones who defend him even though he fucked up badly with S2B.

part of the reason we had to wait so long for the finale because it wasnt even finished until december 2015. it took years to finish the show because alex kept changing/cutting stories and wasted money bringing in needless leftpolitico guest stars like CURRENTYEAR man and jon jewart.


like how can anyone who watched the show from start to finish be satisfied with that pissant ending. it was very obviously rushed.
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>>81057892
You mean the experience of him working his ass off for 3 years to make one of your favorite TV shows?
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>>81057806
>m-muh Manzi
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>>81057794
>Drumpf
I still don't understand this insult. Is it supposed to make no sense so you keep thinking about it, trying to figure it out? That's actually kind of genius.
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>>81019066
It's just part of the story ya dingus.
Yeesh.
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>>81032086
I wonder what happened to his right ear. Did it transform into an eye or into another nose? this shit is important, man!
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>>81057926
you mean working other people's asses off while he fucked around with his annoying girlfriends being a studio room cancer?
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>>81057729
Oh. Well, maybe he should have aimed for a different network?
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>>81057952
its a mix of

>revenge for making fun of jon stewart for changing his name before going into showbiz to shed it of jewishness by equating it to trump's family name changing 300 years ago
>DUDE GERMANS ARE ALL NAZIS AND TRUMP IS HITLER LMAO
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>>81057897
Haha listen to this idiot. The moment an anon starts dropping spaghetti about Jews and politics you know is you're dealing with someone who has nothing to contribute to the conversation.

You totally ignored the point of my post limpdickanon. The point is that if you watched the series through in one go, all the complaints that you've wasted years pissing your pants about about would seem trivial compared to the show's strengths.

Everyone who binges it agrees on that. Clearly someone touched a nerve besmirching your waifu Manzi though
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>>81057994
Uh, that's what he did dummy. He left Disney for fox
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>>81058096
I-I didn't know!
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>>81057897
Imagine how gay this guy must sound to someone new. "Uh..well...we didn't like some episodes...so we spent every Saturday night for for years Photoshopping the creator to be short. It...it made sense at the time...god I'm so lonely"
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>>81058064
>>81058163
shouldnt you be working on your new show alex?

or is it going to take you 5 years to finish the first season of that too
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>>81057704
it must be so sad to be so attached to a character who's only good in one episode
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>>81058192
Haven't you heard. He's directing the Sonic movie. I wonder how Manzi feels about that
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>>81058215
Made worse when the character we have for every episode is so badly written.
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>>81058215
coincidentally its one of the episodes that alex had little involvement in
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>>81058270
He wrote almost the entire episode. What are you even talking about?
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>>81057994
so damn cute
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>>81058215
>only good in one episode

The one episode that won an Annie.
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What the point of going to Disney to make a cartoon in the first place if you have to deal with censors? Why not relase it on the internet?
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>>81058723
>Why not relase it on the internet?
Less financial backing, profit and fame?
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damn this shit is straight up shota and loli when nippon does it they don't fuck around. don't know how i feel about that
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>>81058218
I wonder if she ever made Alex dress up like Sonic to fulfill her hedgehog fantasies.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mgYiGUr3WJk
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>>81058096
FOX is a lot easier to work for than Disney. And a lot more freedom.
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>>81059079
>I wonder if she ever made Alex dress up like Sonic to fulfill her hedgehog fantasies.

Where's a drawfag when you need one
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Hackposting derailing yet another GF thread
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>>81059079

Is that her new boyfriend?
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What we need in today's cartoons are villians that are actually evil. I'm taking Hitler, Bin laden, Pol Pot-level evil. None of this Lord Hater or Ludo crap.
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>>81059242
>Pol Pot
Christ, do you want to traumatize kids?
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>>81057578
there is absolutely nothing wrong with nepotism
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No. I just think today's shows lack any truly evil villians.
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>>81059538
> Kid's shows
> True evil villains
But they're kids shows.
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>>81059209
Ouch talk about a downgrade
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>>81058723
Release what? Lol. You don't know anything about how tv is made. These episodes didn't just fall out of the sky. They were produced on Disney's budget
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>>81055516
>What the hell is this? I need consent, damnit!
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>>81055516
>Bill's arm coming out of the inside
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>81059242

Shit how did you know about my new pitch to Disney, L'il Pol Pot and Hitler Adventures?!
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>>81058833
>tfw only about 100 BillFord fanfics

Why aren't there more? It's practically canon.
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>>81059242

Watch the old WW2 cartoons if you want Hitler. All the great Disney Renaissance villains weren't Hitler, but they were still good.
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>>81060880
I forgot that Hitler actually was the villain in some Disney cartoons.
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>>81060870
I'll take 100 good works over 1000 pieces of trash.
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>>81061319
There is no such thing as good fanfiction
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>WE'LL

>MEET AGAIN

>DON'T KNOW WHERE, DON'T KNOW WHEN

>BUT I KNOW WE'LL MEET AGAIN SOME SUNNY DAY.......
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I just finished Gravity Falls...

Are there any timeskip DipperxWendy fanfics out there?

I need that so much right now.

PLEASE
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>>81062608
Get out Alex.

Nobody like Wendip.
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Fuck Alex coming straight out the underground
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>>81063552
Y-you don't know I'm me I mean him.
Just let me have this one. I'll stop bringing up Digimon ever again. Please.
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>>81063648
Oh, I know it's literally you, Alex.
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Your opinion on Bill fangirls?
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>>81055516

oh no, don't you give me this aged-up Billdip shit, that Dipper must be pushing 5 months. Too damn old.

>>81062608
>content for WenDip

kek

Padippica, incest, and/or gay shit or get out
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>>81059119
Yeah, it should be discussion of the show.

Oh wait
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>>81064297
rapists
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>>81064361
Go delusional or go home is what you're saying.
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>>81058723
>spend $100,000 - $200,000 per episode of any cartoon
>release it on the internet for free
>nobody watches it anyways

Sounds like a solid business plan champ.
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>>81064493
>implying Pinecest wasn't the canon endgame
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DID SOMEBODY SAY PINECEST?!?
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>>81063552
You're wrong, Anon.
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Superior ship right here : http://images.lmgtfy.com/?q=padippica
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>>81064297
lots of them contribute to abuse and rape culture i mean it’s really startling to me that ppl are thinking that dipper’s obvious PTSD (i mean for fuck’s sake, mabel made a comment about how paranoid he’s been, he freaked out when he thought ford was gonna call him pine tree, in his thought stream the words “eenie meenie miney YOU” were played over and over again) is cute and proof that the ship is canon or smt.

it’s just more proof that fandoms like billdip contribute directly to abuse culture which not only makes abusers feel like they’re accepted and right, but also makes vulnerable people believe that these things are what romance is all about

one of my biggest problems with most BillDip shippers I have come across is their complete refusal to try and learn why their ship is so bad

many (way more informed and intelligent on the issue than I am) people have explained a bunch of reasons as to why BillDip is a very bad ship, and as this post is about how BillDip shippers won’t listen, I don’t think there is even a point in listing the reasons because of course, they won’t listen.

you would not be bad people if you took the points you’ve been given in to consideration and actually thought, ‘Oh wow, they are right, I should stop shipping BillDip’. If you made the effort to stop and realise how bad BillDip is so you could eventually overcome it and stop shipping it, you would automatically be a better person than you are right now.

Instead you go ‘it’s only fictional, it isn’t harming real people’, as real life CSA survivors experience panic attacks just by being aware that people who aren’t other CSA survivors ship BillDip in a way that is not a coping mechanism.

There are so many other ships in so many other fandoms that are not pedophilic or abusive, but instead people insist on shipping BillDip, a peodphilic and abusive ship and try to excuse their behaviour rather than admit that what they are doing is wrong.
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>>81032086
So many questions, like:
Where did the money go, exactly?
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>>81065043
What Tumblr blog did you copypaste this from?
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>>81065175
Sudden plausible theory.
Gideon
He had access to Bill near the beginning, and inside knowledge of how to undo the thrown of anguish. He just had to pull a quick con on the Northwests while Bill was playing with them.
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>>81065043
How hard did you have to push to stuff your narrative into there?

Literally 'stop liking what I don't like', the post.

Not even related to this fandom or even this argument but seeing any person try to curtail other peoples actions to fit a bandwidth of quote-unquote acceptable behavior just pisses me off. Im sure you have a ship other find repulsive, get over it.
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>>81064813

Nice try, Alex. Should have given the people what they want.
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>>81065175
>Where did the money go, exactly?
Pyronica's Brazillian wax
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>>81065299
>>81065175
Another lost story idea:
Hi-jinks cause characters to travel through the Astral Plane (oh, excuse me,"Dreamscape") and they find the Lost Treasure of the Northwests.
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>>81065043
When's your book?
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>>81065324
>>81065771

it's tumblr copypasta

http://mxbel-pines.tumblr.com/post/128901803555/anti-billdip-honestly-one-of-my-biggest

the "evil" gravity falls ships (which is all of them) get dozens of posts of this bullshit a day over there

that isn't even the most ridiculous argument i've seen
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Why is Pinecest so based, /co/?
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>>81062608
>Are there any timeskip DipperxWendy fanfics out there?

http://archiveofourown.org/works/1070340?view_adult=true

http://archiveofourown.org/works/4638429

http://archiveofourown.org/works/5550686
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Journal 3 Preview Pages

>>81065618
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>They never made the episode where they finally talk to aliens
>"It'd be like meeting god"
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>>81032978
Seems like that actually enhances stories like that instead of detract from it. Like that's the denoument/twist/punchline: hypnosis is fake-ass bullshit and only works if you want it to work.
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>>81066418
I guess Dipper really WANTS to think and act like Mabel after all.
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>>81057115
Wait, if Bill is in Dipper's body, who is in Mabel's body?
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>>81066616
>Wait, if Bill is in Dipper's body, who is in Mabel's body?

HOLY SH-
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>>81066722
I'll admit I realized right after I said that it's probably supposed to be Dipper in Mabel's body, although part of me wants to imagine something crazier like Pyronica
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If any drawfags are around I would like to request the characters complaining about Batman vs. Superman to help me cope with my dissappointment. Thanks.
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>>81066790
Pyronica possessing people is a thing that should have happened.
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>>81066143
I will name my first born after you. Anon.
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>>81066534
>Mabel springs a clumsy attempt to hypnotize Dipper
>Dipper is ready to shrug her off
>Mabel gets him to pause and pay attention when she starts inducing him to think and act like her
>Dipper can't help but wonder what that would feel like; to just have senseless fun without worrying about anything
>Out of curiosity, he "surrenders" and lets Mabel put him under
>Dipper winds up having so much fun, that Mabel has a hard time waking him back up

Then at the end of the day after all the wacky hi-jinks, Dipper thanks Mabel for getting him out of his skin.
The final joke is that she left a post-hypnotic suggestion that makes him sing Disco Girl whenever she says a trigger word.
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Is there any good homo art that doesn't involve Bill or incest? Bill gets boring after a while and incest is repulsive.
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>>81067760

You mean homo as in male gay homo not lesbian, I guess?

Honestly what else is there though? The only pairings with any followings or dedicated content creators to speak of are BillDip, Stancest, and BillFord. You can check /y/ because I think I've seen a trickling of assorted other stuff to be fair but it's going to be few and far between, slim pickings. I mean like there's that animatronic animal fucking Stan somewhere. So yeah probably something but not very much.
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>>81067760
well there's a good amount of stuff on gravity-falls-hunks.tumblr.com at least if you like it extreme
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>>81067760
>>81067996

Oh wait I forgot about Fiddleford and Stanford. As did the rest of the fandom I guess because there's not much of it. Not nearly as much as you would think. I guess the lure of incest is just too strong in this fandom, gay or straight.
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>>81068079
>those Zootopia fan arts

jesus
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>>81067760
There's always Stanchez if you don't mind crossovers.
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>>81068413
I probably should have thrown a little warning about the Zootopia art(and all the photos as well)
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As a /u/ I wish there was more than just Mabifica sometimes though I am a fan of Mabifica. I guess I should just be glad there's so much content for the pairing and that its fandom is still going even after the show ended. It just seems odd that's it's really the only /u/ pairing there is.
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>>81067445
What do you think Dipper and Mabel did as fun while this happened?
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>>81068794
personally as much fun as Mabifica can be, since I overall prefer Padippica, I usually prefer shipping Mabel with Candy, which unfortunately is a ship with pretty much no art despite being potentially really cute
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>>81068982
That would be cute. That seems weird to me too. You'd think there might be Mabel X Candy or Candy X Grenda but there's practically nothing for either. Yet there's hundreds or thousands of pictures and stories for Mabifica. I guess fandom likes that enemies thing Mabel and Pacifica have.
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>>81068825
Dipper hit on and made out with Robbie.
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>>81069086
well at least for Candy/Grenda there's the excuse that Grenda has one of the only canon relationships in the entire show(although a Marius/Grenda/Mabel threesome would be hot now that I'm thinking about it, and would make a nice companion to the potential Dipper/Wendy/Pacifica/Candy foursome this pic sets up)
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>>81065870
>Pine-scone is like wen-dip, because they are both seen as romantic in fandoms despite the huge 3-4 years age gap between Dipper and the person he is being shipped with.

http://billdiphater.tumblr.com/post/136759292909/pine-scone-is-like-wen-dip-because-they-are-both
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>>81067760
Not really.
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>>81069086
most mabeifica is background content in billdip fics
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>>81066220
What a big fat disappointment.
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>>81026829
What about brainwashing? I don't know what the difference would be though between that and hypnosis.
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>>81068164
eh it's the most popular ship for mcgucket, but that's not saying much. incest/bill ships are just more popular in the fandom than more normal stuff like this.

i have a hunch the journal might give it a popularity boost, though, since it supposedly has bits and pieces about their relationship. i mean, just them hugging in the finale was enough to spark some more interest.
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>>81069721
Brainwashing would be permanent I would think. Hypnosis would wear off. But I suspect both are not real. But in our ever popular "Mabel hypnotisizes Dipper to think and at like her" fantasy brainwashing would mean Dipper is stuck as Mabel I'd think.

>>81069630
That's definitely a lot of it but to be fair you DO see it on its own on even flipped sometimes with Billdip in the background. Which is confusing, it's not like you're obligated to arrange those four characters into pairs or something. I guess there might just be overlap between fans of the pairs because you have the twin X blonde ensemble darkhorse asshole that the fans want to fuck for some reason in each case.
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>>81069849
I hope so. It's a very cute idea and McGucket deserves some happiness after all that.
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Just for the hell of it, I looked up Mystery Shack on google maps and found an actual tourist trap called Mystery Shack. It's next to the Calico ghost town in California.

You have to wonder how many crank calls the owner has gotten over the years...
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>>81069884
Hypothetically speaking, what would be the most Mabel-y way she would hypnotize Dipper and the most Mabel-y way to brainwash Dipper?
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>>81070107
She'd hypnotize Dipper with a glitter Yo-Yo. I can't see Mabel actually wanting to mindbreak Dipper. That's pretty fucking evil.

>>81070086
How much must the people who work there hate this fucking show.
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>>81068794
>It just seems odd that's it's really the only /u/ pairing there is.
There's that whole "opposites attract" and "I hate you so that means I love you" angle that people love. Kinda like how Zutara was so popular when the Last Airbender was still around.
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>>81070075
yeah mcgucket definitely deserves happiness after all the shit he went through
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>>81070262
It was general interaction. True, two characters don't even need to exist on the same plane to become a ship, but they had a rivals to frienemies thing going that makes them so desirable. Candy and Grenda would likely be threesome bait because they're so sweet to each other there's no drama except fighting over a guy. Aldo Wendy with any of the girls just doesn't make a good ship.
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>>81057273
>tfw you requested that picture
I can assure you I fap to geometric shapes just fine.
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>>81020233

>implying disney owns the triangle on the back of the dollar bill

your dumb
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>>81069711
It looks well done and cute but I don't think there will be any huge revelations outside of I guess Dipper's real name if you care about that.
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>>81068825
I think >>81026685 summed it up nicely
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>>81070550
You're doing God's work, anon.
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>>81037393
Not really.
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Goddamn pinecest fags need to learn that there's only one true couple.
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>>81037393
I keep wanting to think there's other secret clues leading to a real statue somewhere but that's a futile dream.
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>>81070199
>I can't see Mabel actually wanting to mindbreak Dipper. That's pretty fucking evil.
OK then. Who do you think would most likely do the brainwashing, and how do they do it?
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>>81070708
What does Bill taste like?
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>>81070522
I just can't see Mabel wearing a full tuxedo with pants(especially one as unflattering to her form as that one), maybe something in the Zatanna vein though, with fishnets and/or a skirt instead of pants though(and definitely with a more form fitting shirt and jacket), also that dress is a bit too plain for Pacifica, definitely needs some jewelry to jazz it up

>>81070809
Padippica is definitely the best single girl Dipper ship, but let's not start pointless arguing over this, especially when Pinecest can be really hot when done right
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>>81071219
Toblerone
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>>81071712
There is little of these two on Pixiv which is where I go for 99% of art. I can't stand tumblr, which likely has way more content, but I don't feel like shifting through 1000 buzz cuts, muslim AUs and general trash.
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>>81071901
There's always booru
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>>81072001
True. Used to use Gelbooru all the time before learning how to pixiv.
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What's to stop Disney from just making another season?
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>>81070199
>I can't see Mabel actually wanting to mindbreak Dipper. That's pretty fucking evil.
Mabel would never do it maliciously, but we've seen Mabel do pretty questionable things when she thinks it's for the someone else's own good.

Mishandling a magical item that's stronger than she thinks seems right up her alley.
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>>81071901
On the one hand, especially if you like one of the popular ships like Mabifica, Billdip, or Billford there's tons of amazing high quality stuff on tumblr from insanely talented people. Like this animation is from an animation student doing a Mabifica film as a student project and it's just really impressive and amazing.

On the other hand, it's not so much Muslim AUs that are an issue with Gravity Falls as it is the "anti-shippers." For some reason I don't understand, this show is one of the biggest moral crusader targets. At one point just searching the "Bill Cipher" tag would give you hundreds of posts from hundreds of different blog about how shipping Bill with any character at all makes you literally worse than a real life rapist. It's incredibly bizarre or surreal more than anything. Most of the other ships make you an abusive pedophile too apparently.
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>>81073009
Tumblr is just one gargantuan crybaby hug box. That's it. The users know their screaming and whining will garner attention and there comes a point where their perception on reality breaks and they turn into wannabe special snowflakes. I hate them and thus only look in my feed for artists I follow and nothing else.

My point being, the community is what keeps me from just searching for stuff no matter how good the content can be.
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>>81073009
personally I can't stand Bill being shipped with anyone human, but that is pretty ridiculous
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>>81066790
>>81057115

Wait okay, so why are they all swapping bodies, is it to cheat on a test? So Bill takes Dipper's test and Dipper takes Mabel's test, and Mabel doesn't take any test at all, because she's retarded?

So if Mabel is the stupid one, why not just have Bill in Mabel's body taking her test, while Dipper takes his own test? Or why not have the one who knows the most about the test material as the ghost who no one else can see or hear telling the other two the answers? Wait I guess that wouldn't work.

I'm overthinking this aren't I. This is somebody's weird fetish.
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>>81073185
Bill knows what makes people tick and I prefer seeing it as like a means of mental torture or getting someone to do his bidding. Bill actually loving someone instantly makes me close the tab versus treating them like a pet. I've never fancied characters 1000+ years old falling in love with only 1 human ever.

>>81073236
>I'm overthinking this aren't I
Yep.
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>>81073185
Well yeah, it's one thing to dislike or even hate a "ship" or "shipping" in general or cartoon fan art or whatnot, and another to have a "mission" to eradicate it under the delusion that you're doing valuable work combating one of the greatest threats to our society (cartoon fan art).

>>81073138
It sucks and it's too bad the crazy "sjw" contigent comes with the creative contingent. Especially because in GF it's not the people producing things, drawing or writing, who complain. It's the people who don't make anything who constantly harass the people who spend all this fucking time developing talent and making things in the name of "social justice." Some artists have had to delete their accounts over it because they featured "bad ships."
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>>81073409

For stories I do generally tend to prefer the evil possessive human pet stuff with Bill, though that's just my taste I guess. And I suppose that can be a condescending kind of love. Just viewing someone as a pet or an object not an equal.

For comics or pictures I don't care if it's just funny. Or even for a story, if it's really wacky and funny it can be fluffy and I don't mind. Most fanfiction authors aren't that good at writing comedy though for some reason.
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>>81073409
>Bill knows what makes people tick and I prefer seeing it as like a means of mental torture or getting someone to do his bidding. Bill actually loving someone instantly makes me close the tab versus treating them like a pet. I've never fancied characters 1000+ years old falling in love with only 1 human ever.
that makes sense, still not a fan of it(especially if it involves Dipper or Mabel), but is a bit more understandable

>>81073513
>Well yeah, it's one thing to dislike or even hate a "ship" or "shipping" in general or cartoon fan art or whatnot, and another to have a "mission" to eradicate it under the delusion that you're doing valuable work combating one of the greatest threats to our society (cartoon fan art).
yeah pretty much
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>>81019066
If Stan got his memory back, Bill is probably still alive.
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>>81055991
>the answer about his name
Deets?
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>>81073951
I think she's talking about how in Bill's AMA on reddit he said something like that Bill isn't his real name but if you heard his real name it would drive you insane or something. That's pretty Lovecrafty.
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>>81031220
What bugs me the most is the heavy shipping between Pacifica and Dipper, Then ditch it entirely.

They were probably going to have a heartbreak episode but was too afraid the series would be canceled, though the episode never existed the script for later episodes was written like it was.
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>>81056897
>not having a monster fetish
I pity you.
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>>81074152
aw it's like mabel getting raped by a big angry red puppy
adorable
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>>81057777
His teeth look so cute in that pic.
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>>81074092
Maybe Alex did it just to piss us off
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>>81056897
>not liking Mabill rape doujin

what are you, gay?
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>>81074092
I just figured the Pacifica redemption episodes were leading up to her joining the mystery team. But that never happened. Once she was redeemed, she dissapeared. And when she reappeared she wasn't very much different from how she was at the beginning. A little bit but not very much.
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>>81074698
I agree, they gave her a lot of build up for little pay off, I'd assume that if they had more content she would have ended up with a bigger role, as it stands her scenes in the finale seemed a bit forced
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>>81074821
Really her saying "my mom and dad are bad" is the only thing from the finale that you need to have seen her redemption arc to get. Everything else makes exactly as much sense after her very first appearance.
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>>81074874
She bought presents for the twins, packaged them herself, showed up to the party full of plebs and wasn't even mad about breaking a nail in the process
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>>81073009
I think Gravity Falls tumblr fandom blended a lot with the Steven Universe fandom and that's where a lot of young fans came from. At least the tags seem nicer now. I scrolled through the Mabill tag a few days ago and it seemed calm. I do have a very long block list though. The really bizarre thing was people trying to morally police the Rick & Morty fandom. I don't get how you can watch the show if you're so freaking sensitive.
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>>81034368
Link to any fanfics of this AU?
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>>81074874
I think her specific character arc and how the zodiac panned out in general might be the most disappointing things in the series for me, it felt like it was building up to something but never quite had the payoff one would have expected. She rebelled against her parents but it never even seemed like anything changed in their relationship beyond what you mentioned. and the zodiac turned out to be a bunch of people with vague and arbitrary connections to their symbols that didn't even end up doing anything.

Makes me wish the finally was more about the zodiac group coming together against bill than it was about mabel's selfishness again
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>>81075026
it's one of quite a few AU ideas that /co/ has come up with that never really went anywhere, like that Gravity Falls Japan one that used to occasionally pop up in the generals when they still existed
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>>81074978
I actually forgot about that, that's fair. Although I don't think I needed to see Golf War and NMM for that. I would just assume that she and her parents were grateful that Mabel and Dipper helped save them. Even as total assholes, this was still an end of the entire world scenario.
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>>81074986
>The really bizarre thing was people trying to morally police the Rick & Morty fandom. I don't get how you can watch the show if you're so freaking sensitive.

I remember when Roiland said that Rick and Morty were in a sexual relationship in some dimension and people their flipped out. I mean have they watched the show? That's the kind of show it is and it's not for children at all. For fuck's sake Morty was almost raped in a public restroom by a giant jellybean
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>>81075077
The whole thing reeks of a story severely cut down and butchered to meet a much shorter time frame. Besides all the stuff about Pacifica, I feel like Robbie had a story to him that just never got shown. I mean they dump a ton of references to the undead around him and none of it ever means anything.
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>>81075077
Look, Pacifica is one of my favorite characters, and while I also wanted more out of her, her developed cycle wasn't that bad when you actually think about it. She's shown huge strides but it'd be unrealistic if she had ended up destroying her family bonds.

It's about she being different then them, knowing she doesn't NEED to blindly obey them, and that is displayed in the finale while she kept her essence

Overall, we all know season 2 was rushed, but I rather look deeply to what we ended up getting than grieving over what we could have gotten

>than it was about mabel's selfishness again
What?

>>81075159
I disagree, it would have been incredibly out of character. If that was the case, why wasn't Preston and Priscilla there to thank the twins as well?
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>>81075270
Maybe all that stuff is a running joke/reference to Rob Zombie? I think the zodiac arbitrary because it was arbitrary. Didn't Alex say that originally had zero meaning?
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>>81075089
>Gravity Falls Japan
There's a twitter with a lot art for that at least.
https://twitter.com/cobbrm04
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>>81075391
>Didn't Alex say that originally had zero meaning?
It was apparently something that just looked cool and they could potentially give it a bigger meaning later on. But it was never meant to be the endgame winner. And thankfully so, imo. It'd feel cheap if they had beaten Bill with an ancient power (kek) and not with actual character molding actions
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Oh hey, that reminds me
Did you guys ever found that statue?
i lost track of the Statue Hunt threads after a while
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>>81074986
>I scrolled through the Mabill tag a few days ago and it seemed calm.

You know, jokes aside, I'm glad to hear that things have calmed down somewhat in the Mabill tag. That seems like a pretty innocent and positive group, and to have many young fans. And the hate in the tag was insane, just flat out crazy at one point. It was ridiculous to lob accusations of pedophilia at a teenager drawing a picture of Mabel hugging a triangle. I mean what the fuck is wrong with some people?
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>>81075077
>>81075621

Although the zodiac beating Bill would have been cheap, to be honest I do wish it had been incorporated better and played some role, like weakening Bill or some other small but crucial part. Not for the sake of the lorefags, but to give the supporting cast a more meaningful bit to play.

>>81075669
Someone made a great fake. But the search seems to have been called off.
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I wanted a Tambry episode, but I never got one.
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>>81075793
Yeah, I could roll with that, I guess. But it was designed as a prophecy, so I really can't see any way it wouldn't be 100% effective and still give supporting characters a bigger role, you know?

Maybe if the zodiac just represented that those people would have to unite to put an end to Bill. Like, not just stand in a circle, but each would use something exclusive of their defining traits to kill Bill. Pun kinda intended.

But again, that would be extremely hard to write.
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>>81075861
Nigga, we didn't even have a Wendy episode and you're here wishing for Tambers episode? Are you Lee or something?
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>>81065043
This post is fucking dumb.

I agree with you that billdip fans who refuse to label their ship as abusive are out of their minds. It is an abusive relationship. Saying that it's not reflects an inability to recognise real abuse in real life. If you can't admit that your favourite cartoon character is in the wrong, how can you admit your neighbour, or coworker, or family member is in the wrong?

With that said, there's two huge fucking issues with what you just said:

>MUH COPING MECHANISM

The mechanics of an abuse victim using a ship as a coping mechanism is dependent upon abuse victims ADMITTING TO BEING ABUSE VICTIMS.

I'm an abuse victim, and I will take that to my fucking grave. So what, now if I use something as a coping mechanism I need to fucking broadcast my trauma to the world just to get your stamp of approval? Yeah, thanks, really looking out for trauma victims there.

The other thing is that sometimes it's possible to enjoy bad things, acknowledging that they would be bad in real life, but appreciating them in fiction for aesthetic reasons.

There are plenty of characters that I like who do bad things, and I like them because they show the results of trauma accurately (cycle of violence).

I like some people who let bad things happen to them because even though being abused should not be romanticised it reflects some other aspect of their character. (ex. I like a Man for All Seasons because More's religious convictions are inspiring, even if throwing your family under the bus is morally questionable; it is futile).

Sometimes excessive violence and comedic sociopathy is just wacky.

Sometimes I just love the aesthetic (Death and the Lady, yandere/Salome).

Relating to a "bad" character, aesthetics, invoking sympathy and pathos, etc. are all perfectly healthy ways to enjoy media.

Should billdip fans tag their shit? Yes. Should billdip fans not post their content around little kids? Definitely.

Is it evil to like? Don't be stupid.
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>>81075923
I agree that what you suggest would be best, not just standing in a circle. And I'm talking about an ideal, I understand the creative team had deadlines and practical considerations.
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>>81075230
>Morty was almost raped in a public restroom by a giant jellybean
>mfw I thought it was hot
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>>81075230
Infinite number of dimensions mean infinite varieties of Mortys and Rick.

There's realities out there where Rick and Morty do other members of their family. There's probably a Rick whose dating Jerry and Morty is with his mom!
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>>81076009
B-but if people were to watch say Looney Tunes, they will think that jumping off a cliff in real life is fun and healthy.
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>>81073236
Bill is a very irresponsible adult to help those children cheat on a test. School is important. What if young fans see this fan art? They will think that cheating on tests is okay.
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>>81076463
Samefag here.

Okay, I know I've already written a novel but this shit bugs me:

I actually agree with anti-billdip shippers in the sense that I agree media does affect reality, but framing is important.

In the example you gave, the framing - the absurdity of the situation from the cartoon physics to the one-liners - all indicate that this is something inherently silly.

There are forms of media where abusive things are not framed properly. The abusive behaviour is seen as cute, sexy, etc. (ex. Twilight). That's wrong because the author is implicitly saying, "this is okay" and the readers may find themselves agreeing.

The thing is, most shippers are aware that their ships are fucked up. Hence, "shipping trash", "darkfic", "dubcon". These people are actively saying, "This is not right. Do not try IRL".

Basically, Nostalgia Chick made a good point when she made the disintction between Trainspotting and Reality Bites. One frames itself well, one does not.

Anti-shippers who insist anyone who likes X character or Y ship being a LITERAL PEDOPHILE RAPIST (lol thanks for throwing those words around bro, again, great work looking out for us survivors) do not seem to appreciate the effect tone has on presentation.

Which is weird, since these are the people usually bitching about tone policing.
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>>81076404
morty x giant jelly bean is so problematic baka
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>>81075687
>That seems like a pretty innocent and positive group, and to have many young fans.
This always got me too. There was all this anger directed at a bunch of young kids drawing Mabel holding hands with a humanized triangle with a little heart drawn above them. From what I can tell a lot of the anti-blogs were run by young people too. I think it was a case of baby's first NOTP and tumblr culture encouraged users to dress up their shipwar as social justice.

>butterfly kissing
Why isn't there more of this?
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>>81075687
>>81076778
This.

I think back to the good old days when Naruto and Deviantart and those stupid dollmaker bases were big. Kids could be kids and explore their sexuality with stupid yaoi garbage and it was okay.

Now children who are enjoying shows for children in all the absurd ways kids do (drawing 2edgy4me shit, awful fanfic) are fucking harassed and mocked.

It's like, fuck, just let this chubby, awkward 14 year old girl draw two guys smooching without screeching at them.
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>>81076728
honestly i think if someone reads a story about a bunch of cartoon characters including a tap dancing talking triangle in a top hat and then thinks, "you know what, I'm going to go rape somebody," they have massive mental problems that have nothing to do with gravity falls
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>>81076887
This.

The thing is, media does affect us, but in subtle ways.

No one watches a porno and thinks, "Let's go facefuck the first big-titted blonde I see at Starbucks". Instead they think things like, "women sound like that when they orgasm?", "are condoms really that uncommon?", "I guess women like you to take charge", "God, all these girls are repulsive sluts", etc.

It's small things that eventually, through repeated uncritical consumption, lead to prejudices and errs in judgement. Not, "I watched the Sopranos so now I'm going to join the mob".
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>>81076998
Happy people with no problems who are nice and never make mistakes are great in real life but boring to watch on a TV show.
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>>81076998
Yeah, fiction uses a lot of tropes and shorthand to tell a story and taking that shorthand as actual fact and never questioning it is what messes you up. Problem is that people take this message as "fiction is bad" when they should be investing more time in developing critical thinking skills.
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>>81076998
Speak for yourself. I watched one episode of Breaking Bad and immediately became a Drug Lord. You're just not a real fan if you didn't.
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>>81077906
That's pretty hardcore.
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>>81076458
Ricks always hate Jerrys, so much so that groups will prank Jerry.

Yeah infinite universes and all that jazz, but if it happened I doubt that any other rick would accept the rick that's dating Jerry.
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>>81079351
What about doofus rick?
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>>81079501
Already a social outcast to the other ricks, considered by the other ricks as bottom of the barrel. Other Ricks insult Jerry for even hanging out with him. I mean I have no doubts that in some dimension a Rick could love a Jerry, but I doubt that any other Rick that wasn't like doofus Rick IE already a social outcast would actually be nice to him.
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>no fountain of youth episode
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>re-watch D&D episode
>Mabel starts making Stan and Ford kiss via drawings
>mwa mwa mwa~
Season 2 was a season of ships.
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>>81080720
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>>81080726
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>>81080730
Wow. It's like some nightmare Bosch painting if you look at it like a mural...
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>>81070669
This.
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>>81076404
Me too in a highly uncomfortable way.
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>>81080619
Mabel is an incest loving fujoshit.
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Bill is actually a surprisingly good muse. I havn't wanted to practice my art so badly before. I think I'll stick to humanized Bills until I get good at anatomy.
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>>81086185
He's fun to draw, specially the triangle bill, it's just great.

>which one will you kiss?
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>>81086235
I actually am an idiot and can't make perfect triangles or straight lines. So when I scan and edit, the perfect lines of the line tool make any other details look out of place. Pic related.

>which one will you kiss?
Candy. Easily daughteru material.
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>>81086415
Whoops too much zoom on that crop.
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>>81080360
This picture is utterly horrifying.
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>>81086909
it makes me aroused
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>>81086909
Is it Mabel's eyes? I wanted them to come off as slightly creepy but if it's too unsettling I should probably change it.
>>81087388
This concerns me.
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>>81071064
Not the anon you're responding to, but I'm not sure of anyone who would do that.
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>>81087580
Does this look any better?
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Stan said he's been in prison in 3 different countries. Was it ever specified which ones?
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>>81023520
I remember a long time ago where someone drew Dipper and Mabel trying to get arts and crafts supplies, and Dipper briefly snapped out of the hypnosis. However, Mabel snapped him back into it.
I'm not sure where it is, though.
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>>81090789
wasn't mexico or columbia one
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I'm curious; what actually got cracked that spoiled everything way too early/how much of the ending and plot was guessed beforehand? I was never active in the threads or fandom, so I was just mildly surprised by most of the developments.
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>>81092096
About the real ending, very little was known beforehand. The twin theory was popular before NWHS though, but nothing concrete

>>81091997
Colombia, yea
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>>81070107
>Hypnotize
Mabel pours glitter on "The World's Most Distracting Object" from "Tourist Trapped" and spins it in front of Dipper.

>Brainwash
Not sure about this one, unfortunately. Anyone got any ideas on how this could happen?
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>>81090789
I'm guessing America, Mexico and Columbia. Pretty sure Columbia was confirmed.
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>>81092196
>Columbia

I mean Colombia.
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>>81057952
I think it's an excuse to sell shitty knockoff hats.

That and if this is the best dirt they can find, the fact that his ancestors changed their name to assimilate into America (A FACT THAT SUPPORTS HIS IMMIGRATION POLICIES), then Donald Trump is officially the cleanest U.S. politician ever.
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>>81091997
>>81092196
Thanks. I'm really interested in Stan chewing through that trunk, how he got in the trunk, and what happened afterwards. It's like his life is a full mature comic series we'll never see and Ford deserves his own animated special on sci-fi.
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>>81056897
I remember the slew of Elsanna fan art Korea cranked out when Frozen hit. You can always count on Korea and Japan to have very good artists drawing shameless things.

>>81092096
The Twin Theory is what Alex was talking about. Some people guessed that Stan had a twin who was the Author.

>>81092181
I guess Mabel might accidentally do it with magic like an anon suggested above.
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>>81056897
Also anyone raping anyone is always big in Japan, it seems to be a whole country of sexually repressed people to the point that the low birth rate is a problem.
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What grades do you think Dipper and Mabel get back in school?
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>>81092942
I'd say they're well rounded enough for above average. Dipper's incredibly bright and doesn't actually need to go to school since he could live comfortably and make a living with Ford. Mabel doesn't seem like the studious type but she's far from poor grade material.
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>>81092942
I can see Dipper getting straight As and Mabel getting Bs and Cs though I can also see Mabel getting better grades because she wants to please while I could see Dipper's grades in classes he doesn't give a shit about dropping if not for wanting a high GPA to go study to make a tv show. A lot of grades is about investment.
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>>81074152
>Watching Weirdmageddon
>Dipper & Mabel agree to distract bill for Stan and Stan
>Dipper & Mabel both show off their respective tools
>Bill starts the chase
>Mabel uses Dipper's flashlight to make her fist huge and punch through a wall instead of just smalling the wall
>Mabel uses her hookshot to get them to safety
>Dipper does nothing
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>>81093272
Mabel had to redeem herself for being a little shit and pretty much causing weirdmagedon.
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You know, Asian fan art Mabel a cute. Here, have a small handful of pictures of the #1 westaboo loli.
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>>81093385
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>>81093415
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>>81093454
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>>81093497
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>>81093519
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>>81093550
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>>81093272
because dipper sucks and is useless
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>>81030994
>>81025921
>"ITS BILL BECAUSE YELLOW AND YOU CAN ONLY SEE ONE EYE"
Fucking revolting.
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>>81090789
Do you think Stan had prison sex or a prison boyfriend while he was in the clink?
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>>81093806
Untwist yer knickers lad.
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>>81092172
I remember an interview about how the crew wanted to move the show along because people online were figuring things out. It seemed strange to me. Most of the kids watching the show, the target audience, probably had no idea. So it didn't matter.
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>>81093941
Doubtful. He seems pretty useful with those brass knuckles and likely could hold his own and protect his butthole. Even in his old age he's no pushover which is impressive given his lifestyle.
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>>81086235
shota Stan looks like he wants it the most. But shota Soos is so cute, I don't know

Usually I'd go with Pacifica but she looks like she might be asleep
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>>81094375
Sometimes Stan seems really ripped and in shape and sometimes he just seems fat.
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>>81094938
He's probably sucking in his gut there
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>>81093272
I thought that giant fist thing was a call back to a tale of two stans "you have smarts I have that other thing, punching"
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>>81094938
I noticed that too. Maybe it's the cut of the suit or the animator for the episode.

>Dipper trying to spy on him in the shower
>mfw
I knew they weren't gonna show anything but I was ready.
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