>all these reviews citing Gadot's weak performance What

I thought Gadot's Wonder Woman was received overwhelmingly positively, and held up as one of the movie's saving graces?

Source?
Or shitposting?

>>81001962
Only by SJW hambeasts at the premier and IGN.

>>81001974
Shitposting. Gal has been getting nothing but praise

>>81001878
Literally only one review shat on Gadot, most reviews are citing her as a highlight

>>81002023
Source?
Or shitposting?

>>81002019
So it doesn't count because muh boogeywomyn?

>>81002032
Eh, some are considering her a highlight, others just a bland character.

Anyway, she's clearly going to be carried by her co-stars in the movie.

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>>81002032
>most reviews are citing her as a highlight

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!! how fucking bad WAS this fucking movie?!! Did they shit on the backstories? Did they make Alfred French? What the fuck did they do man?

>>81001878
>actually believing when they said the weakest actress in a glorified cameo role was the best part of the movie

You guys should've recognized the warning sights, her solo movie may be alright but she shouldn't have been in BvS in any form.

>>81002147
Did you ever consider that maybe you're wrong?

>>81001878
there is 0% chance this movie was as bad as Green Lantern. Green Lantern was a joke out of the gate.

I remember a lot of people on /co/ defending it at the time though...

>>81001878
OMFG A CHANCE TO RECAST!!!!

Don't scrap the film :(
JUST RECAST

>>81002147

The general idea is that the movie takes itself wayyy to seriously and AGAIN plays with Jesus imagery (Batfleck is raised into the air by a flock of bats at some point, in a Jesus-like pose); and that the fights in the 3rd act are mostly gratuitous schlock with Snyder's trademark slowmo.

Basically a Man of Steel encore.

>>81002258
>Batfleck is raised into the air by a flock of bats

Please tell me you're joking.

>>81002208

She's a fucking twig, so no.

>>81002291
It's not Batfleck, it's his kid version in a dream sequence.

>>81002291
no. its a dream sequence tho (it has a handful of those)

>>81002208
>39% rating and dropping
No, the movie is shit. Saying Gadot stole the movie isn't saying much.

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>>81002220
>there is 0% chance this movie was as bad as Green Lantern.

Honestly I'm not worried about this film.
Outside of RT scores I've only heard nothing but positive things so far.

>>81001878
>want to see Diana and Etta punching out Nazis
>her movie is set in WWI

JUST!

>>81002032
Other reviews written by people with names like Joshua Goldberg and Noah Rosenbaum

>>81002258
>movie took itself way too serious
Maybe the critics just don't superheroes seriously.

Ironic

>>81002390
How low can it go?

>>81002291
It's a dream sequence. Although superman does die and come back 3 days later

>>81002032
Most of the reviews that I read say the opposite. She has basically no role to play, and she's so bad hopefully they'll get a better actress for the WW movie.

>>81002471
>and she's so bad hopefully they'll get a better actress for the WW movie.

I hate to break it to you, but they've already finished filming the WW movie.

Justice League is like, a few weeks away from beginning filming.

>>81002464
>a dream sequence makes it OK

no, it's still retarded

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>It's bad
>It's good
>It's really bad
>It's really good

>>81002471
Please tell me she gained 50lbs for the role? Muscle mass maybe? DID they CGI in some fucking muscles at least?

dead on arrival
Its gonna flop or get delayed
I mean its up against transformers

>>81001878
it will depends on just how well boxoffice goes

>>81002513
Dreams are meant to be absurd. How does synder get that but professional critics don't?

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I think this will be the consensus

Sums up 99% of negative reviews

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It was fucked from jumpstreet. Wonder woman is scheduled to be released the same days as Transformer 5!

It'll get destroyed just liked Alvin and the Chipmunks did when it came out against Star Wars: The Force Awakens

>>81002563
Because its not even absurd

He pushed the same Jesus analogies in MoS

He thinks he is being smart and deep

>>81002645
Last time I checked Synder didn't create the superman/jesus analogue.

>>81002597
So it boils down to
>Not muh marvel

>>81002710

He sure did his part in running it into the fucking ground though

>>81002752
I have no idea what you're talking about here.

>It's a Disney shill review episode

>>81002710
he didnt create it, or superman or the concept of superhero movies or superhero deconstruction

but he has tried to capture all of that, to various degrees of success

>>81001962
By SJWs.
She literally doesn't do a thing in the entire movie.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/

40%
0
%

>>81002734
If aint Marvel, it aint worth watching.

>>81002597
>buzzword
What ever happen to thinking critical?

>>81002258
>(Batfleck is raised into the air by a flock of bats at some point, in a Jesus-like pose)
Wait, is this a Snyder movie or a Schumacher movie? That's pretty lulzy

>>81002734

people have responded well to both the marvel movies' tone AND the dark nolan batman stuff


snyder made his choice long ago to with the nolan approach. the problem is he isnt a very competent filmmaker

>>81002597
Accurate as fuck.
Make mine Marvel.

>>81002258
>Batfleck is raised into the air by a flock of bats at some point, in a Jesus-like pose
BATGOD
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G
O
D

>>81002710
He did not, but he loves it and uses it with the subtlety of a fucking wrecking ball.

>>81002837
doesn't she attempt to infiltrate lex's HQ for info and go on to kill doomsday after saving bats and supes neck?

>>81002849
>the hurr fun is buzzword durr maymay

>>81001962

she only has a few lines, she pulls off the action alright but she's still less charismatic than thor 2 chris hemsworth with her dialogue

>>81002563
>Dreams are meant to be absurd.
They're also meant to have a point to them, to convey some idea to the audience, abstract as it may be (See: The Sopranos) using dream sequences just to show weird shit is incompetent, self indulgent and a waste of screentime (See: sea of skulls in Man of Steel)

I showed someone a picture of Aquaman and they asked why he looked like Rob Zombie.

I showed someone a picture of that Ezra guy (their daughter loves the Flash) and they said he looked like a douchebag.

>>81002795
Go back to bed Snyder.

It's over pham... it's officially worse than MoS.

I was actually pinning for 60% on RT as a "realistic" goal... didn't think it'd be that far off down the trench.

>>81002837
>She literally doesn't do a thing in the entire movie

Which could still make her the highlight of the movie given the reviews its getting

>>81002464
>come back 3 days later

... And I am going to see this movie on Easter.

BRAVO WB

>>81002092
well... yeah? Of course, why would it be otherwise?

>>81002849
>buzzword
Is everything a buzzword now ?

>>81002956
There's no consensus yet, though.

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>>81002619
Welp. She's dead. I don't know how WB is going to manage.

>>81002933
Have you seen the film? You only know what the scene is through second hand accounts and you've already dismissed any significance it might actually have.

>>81002881
This. For all the defense force is trying to dismiss critics as just wanting marvel quips all day every day I gotta ask.

How does the critically acclaimed Nolan trilogy fit into your mindset? It was serious. It got dark. It was even kind of complex and deep.

Did it REALLY never occur to you guys that the problem was the director failing at the tone rather than the tone itself? I mean shit, that's the perfect out! You can have your serious movies still; just get a better director to do them!

>>81002956
>all those polls anons kept making getting people to guess the RT ranges
>vote 50-60 at worst
>it ends up even worse
Why do they keep hiring Snyder again?

>>81002933
How can we say that scene doesn't convey a message?

>>81002982
ITS POETRY.

>>81002936
Aquaman and Flash will be the best movies in the DCEU. Screencap this.

>>81002898
Oh good, another "Rey" situation. No, don;t make Finn the primary main character he only has a connection to the villains that Rey never could. Let's instead have this random Amazonia-I mean desert wanderer be the main character for no reason.

>>81003019
I have not, but I am familiar with Snyder's track record. I probably won't watch the movie until the yify rip comes out, anyway.
Thank you, based yiffy.

>>81002898
Is it true that they used full cgi for her body to make it seem like she had muscle?

>>81003056
Aquaman will not happen after this

>>81003019
What's the significance of Lex going pee pee in Mercy's drink? Did he think it would be a cool joke because she's Chinese?

>>81002619
First Fox stupidly puts Xmen against Alice and now this.

They did not have hope for the WW movie, they're releasing it at the same time as Transformers 5

>>81003051
We already established it does convey a message, and it's the same as in The Man of Steel. And it's seriously getting old.

>>81003056

>James Wan directing Aquaman

DC pls, I can only get so erect.

>>81002898
No, in a roundabout way Batman kills Doomsday. And Superman. See, Batman creates a kryptonite spear in order to kill Clark, but then he decides not to because Clark says his mother's name, whcih is also Bruce's mothers name, so he realizes they're the same like pottery. Then Doomsday shows up and they and Wonder Woman fight him and Batman goes "Hey I know I have a thing I was gonna use to kill Superman that we can use now!" and so they have to lure Doomsday to where the kryptonite spear is at which point Clark goes "Yo I got this" and impales both himself and Doomsday on the spear killing them both. Except Clark isn't really dead (but we're supposed to assume Doomsday is I guess)

Batman v Superman. Not only did Batman win, he did it with PREPTIME.

>>81003111
I can't believe I'm rooting for a fucking Burton Alice sequel to smash Xmen.

>>81003073
She's a huge character though with precedent, not an all-new, surprisingly overqualified insert character

>>81003104
It means that Lex is a narcissist because that's exactly the petty shit that pathological narcissists fo.

>>81003111
X-Men usually does well financially despite Fox's inept marketing team.

>>81003143
>>James Wan directing Aquaman
That sounds pretty gud, I hope you're not making shit up.

>>81003099
DC are in too deep to change their plans.

>>81003099
Yes it will

>>81003146
>Not only did Batman win, he did it with PREPTIME.
Sounds in character to me.

>>81001878
Just recast. The person that chose a kike coathanger with microcephalia for the role should be flogged.

>>81003146

I really hope this is a joke, but I know in my heart it's not.

>>81003174

Look it up m8, he's basically confirmed.

>>81003073
desu Rey was too OP

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>>81003185
>movie starring BATMAN AND SUPERMAN flopping critically and setting bad tone for the rest of the canon

>thinking they'll go through with a fucking Aquaman movie

>>81002147
It's like everyone talking about how great Faora was.

MoS was so shit, that her being a qt with barely any lines made her seem amazing.

>>81002734
Yes, it boils down to whatever explanation you already had in your head as to why you're ignoring all these things that make it a bad movie

You're probably one of those fags that think every critic ever is a Donnerfag even though not a single review mentions him.

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>>81003254
Faora movie when?

>>81003250
Are you stupid?

>>81003250
Who knows, we might see them begging Disney to do a JLA vs. Avengers movie.

>>81003219
>James Wan
>Anywhere near remotely good

This may sound like damage control but critics are not at all good indicators on whether something is good or not.

so is this movie actually shit?

>>81003219
Why would I lie when the truth is this much fun?

>>81003250
>If critics hate then it make box office
Say hello to Transformers

>>81002795
>the scene where he floats out in space in the shape of a cross
>the part where he talks to a fucking PREIST
>in a church
>next to a fucking picture of jesus

God its so god damn infantile.

>>81003040
>How does the critically acclaimed Nolan trilogy fit into your mindset?
It's not Superman, some people will never ever ever accept a serious Superman movie even with Batman in it. Same probably with Wonder Woman as general audiences will only know her from the TV show.

>>81003357
That never stops /co/

>>81003248
Worst still, she had nothing to do with that story until the jedi stuff at the very end. Just like WW will most likely have little to do with this.

>>81003254
Not only did she barely have any lines but the lines she did have were either generic or stupid.

>>81003250
>multiple award winning director at the helm
>already sunk massive amounts of money into it
If BvS is a total financial flop (it won't be) then we'll see.

>>81003392
Yes 1 7 second moment and 1 2 minute scene in a 140 fucking minute long movie.
GET THE FUCK OVER IT!

>>81001878
>all these reviews citing Gadot's weak performance
on the contrary anon.
They call both superman/batman weak as fuck and they praised both WW and Alfred.

>>81003444
Whats wrong with criticizing the movie?

>>81002982
I saw it last night. I promise you anon, that doesn't happen. Idk how this is still being said after the screenings. The 3 day shit doesn't happen. It never specifies how many days pass between him dying and the funeral

>>81003444
Didn't refer to the movie. But the imagery is terrible.

If you're talking about running a metaphor into the ground, that's about as terrible as you can possibly get. And anyways, there's probably more than just those, that's just what stands in my mind.

>>81003412
You might be surprised. While it won't lose money for the studio, it may not make as much money as they want or expect it to make.

>>81003392
You forgot the age parallels.
When Clark is 13 he has a "Why shouldn't I be doing my purpose" moment with the school bus, like how young Jesus has one in the temple.

Then he does the wandering earth montage from the ages of 19 to 33, coming out as Superman as the age of, guess who Jesus.

And now? Now he dies on Good Friday. After getting pierced by a spear. Just like Jesus.

>>81002534
The "muscle" she gained look like grotesque tumors

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>Affleck finally play a superhero well
>it's in a shitty movie

>>81003104
She told him "don't give me piss and tell me it's granny's peach tea" earlier when she blocked him from importing the kryptonite

>>81003510
You think they might do something on Sunday?

>>81003396
Serious isn't solemn. Serious isn't somber. Serious isn't draining. Serious isn't the problem.

All they had to do with MoS was have Superman say "No. I don't believe humans are going to treat me like crap. No. I don't care if it might hurt me I'm going to help people". All the rest of the movie and characters and story could've stayed exactly the same. But a Superman that's weak willed? That's what doesn't work.

>>81002898
>neck

Can't tell if intentional

>>81003510
Oh. God. I didn't even consider the spear as part of that.

Please PLEASE don't let there be even more of those metaphors, its so heavy handed it literally makes me cringe.

>>81003392
>he's talking to a priest in a church
How is that jesus symbolism.
>next to picture of jesus
IN A CHURCH!?

>>81003510
POTTERY
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Y

>>81003562
He wasn't the problem in Daredevil.

>>81003150
>Wanting that abomination to win
You clearly didn't see the first trainwreck. Fuck that. Tim burton should have been blacklisted after that shitshow.

>>81001878
well from the reviews she barely had a chance to perform, just the generic fighting. it's up on the air how well she will do on WW movie

>>81003564
I thought the critics said the movie was humorless.

>>81003657
Anything over Jennifer Lawrence.

>>81003485
its nitpicking not criticizing.

>>81001878
>all these reviews saying X
>over 100 posts
>no sources

>>81003597
>serious isn't solemn
Yeah it is.

>>81001878
I'm happy you were vindicated. I wish Ladderbro was here for the feast.

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>Gadot carried the movie with her weak ass arms
lmao that says more about how weak the movie is rather than how strong Gadot's performance is

>>81003619
look up the screencaps or download it yourself, notice how the camera angle gets weird just to frame supes in a way that shows him and jesus imagery next to each other

>>81003663
Would you have prefered a modern day Wonder Woman to the WWI one we're getting?

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>>81003483
>They call both superman/batman weak as fuck and they praised both WW and Alfred.
I mean, I'm not surprised in the slightest that Batfleck is shit, but WW is good?

I call an incredible amount of bullshit on that. Gadot was awful in Triple 9 and the Furious movies.

>>81003671
That isn't humor.

>>81003721
shut up

>>81003725
No it really isn't. I've seen literal funerals that weren't somber, but they were still serious.

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>Cavill, I swear to god if you don't defend this movie anonymously on a Maldivian sculpturing board I will write another scene with Jesus imagery, do you want me to compare you to Jesus again?

>>81003760
Yeah it is.

>>81003444
Wow, someone's easily rustled.

>>81003721
there is a review aggregator being linked on every other thread on /tv/

if you need sources, they are easily available

>>81003612
>>81003510
>>81003392
So Snyder thinks Superman should be Jesus and should also kill?

I don't get why people are against the Jesus imagery, Superman is literally Jesus in the comics

>>81002619

How are those films still making money?

>>81003811
Solemn is literally an synonym for serious

>>81003040
Nolan Batman had quips and humor, but they were set in a serious world.

I agree with you about the main problem with MoS and BvS is terrible directing.

>>81003863

Jesus broke terminally ill people's necks in Last Temptation of Christ

>>81003894
Maybe just maybe the audiences don't give a shit about you reviews?

>>81002222
LISTEN TO THIS QUADS.

They don't even need to make an excuse, just recast her and pretend nothing happened. Marvel did with Bruce Banner and no one gave a fuck.

>>81002710

Jesus wasn't a glum cunt all the time

Batman is brutal and cruel and dark, Superman is THE LIGHT. He's supposed to enjoy being the hero not feel fucking burdened by it!

>>81003619
>talking to a priest.

He consults a fucking priest to try and resolve the issue of confronting Zod? Don't you think it would be time for him to actually interact with Mama Kent as an adult? It seems like ANY option would be better. Hell, maybe show him just by himself with internal conflict.

The whole scene is contrived so that they can fit him right next to the shot of jesus and say
>HEY GUYS
>SEE HOW SIMILAR THEY ARE
>DID YOU NOTICE THE IMAGERY
>THIS IS CALLED A METAPHOR
>THIS IS POTTERY.

>>81003863
Who fucking knows. Maybe he just thinks it makes him a genius somehow. If the new movie is as saturated in it I honestly don't know how to respond. You can't just push that shit into a movie and think it elevates it.

>>81003597
>All they had to do with MoS was have Superman say "No. I don't believe humans are going to treat me like crap. No. I don't care if it might hurt me I'm going to help people"
Their was NOTHING weak willed about mos's Superman. It took a tremendous will to stand back and do nothing for the greater good.

They WILL factually treat him like crap, you really want him and Pa to be that delusional in this fucking day and age?

It wasn't just about if they hurt him for helping people.
Pa says it out loud.
'This isn't just about our lives or the lives of those around us Clark, when people find out what you can do its going to change everything"
His not going public was also (probably more so) about the social ramifications and the lives that would be lost In the wake of his reveal.

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>>81003931
Most of the audience are actual subhumans like Chinese that literally consume shit on a day to day basis.

This is why nobody talks about box office as if it matters. Because anyone with a working brain will go see any blockbuster movie.

>>81003993
Except Superman feeling the weight of the world on his shoulder is something that a lot of writers tackle.

>>81003931

Oh I know they dont. The final Hobbit film made over a billion dollars and it had 60%

>>81003906
Semantics. Something can be bright and even a little silly while still being dead serious.

It may be an oldfag thing though because the example I'm thinking of are rather dated..

>>81004064

All the time, anon? ALL THE FUCKING TIME!?

>>81003019
>>81003051

You only have to look at Snyder's previous films

See: Sucker Punch

>>81004057

It doesn't matter. None of this matters

>>81004071
You just reminded me how much I hated the Hobbit trilogy as a whole. That last part sucked.

>>81002597
>humorless

get ready boys, DC will now be copying the Marvel model to a T

>>81004002
Priest is an objective person to Clark's dillema and he can keep a secret. You're being an lil overreacting bitch anon.

Which one of you was this? I know it was one of you

https://youtu.be/5Q9_J8gzznE

>>81004101
yes

he has to murder spy satellites and surveillance drones to make the world less heavy

>>81003993
>Jesus didn't put up with almost everyone having ZERO faith in what he said
>Jesus wasn't pissed at the merchants and never beat their asses
>Jesus never went through enormous grief when he was praying at the garden before he's arrested

Nah I think Superman isn't sunshine and rainbows all day.

>>81003049
Watchmen and 300. It made people think he's a great director to adapt comic books.

>>81004008
The movie doesn't explore those social ramifications at all, so it becomes a moot point. But I don't want to talk about that. I want to talk about the fact that you can and have made that little diatribe that a few dozen times already and for all your whining about the campy silly Donner movie, I actually re-watched it earlier today and you know what I realized?

It makes the exact same speech. It does the exact same "Clark I don't know what the right thing is but when people find out about you things will change" speech that you've been defending for months now as some kind of masterstroke. And it does it BETTER than Snyder did it!

>>81004200

People want happy Superman.

>>81001878
It's too late to back out now, isn't WW done or close to done filming? They're not going to scrap it. At worst they'll cut the effects budget.

>>81004171
nah

At best they will take Snyder out of directorial/writing duties and make him into a do-nothing producer

At worst nothing will change and they will blame audiences for being too dumb to understand the high art that BvS is

>>81004139
Synder is an idiot savant for visuals.

>>81004172
>keep a secret
>not in confession
>doesn't consult his mom who already knows his actual problems entirely.
>doesn't deal with it himself like a hero

MoS isn't terrible, but that doesn't change the fact that the shot they set up in that scene was the height of film-school sophomore

>>81004265

Watchmen, while not really bad, is pretty flawed and "meh".

300 was good.

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>>81002619
Don't forget Kingsman 2.
Rest in pieces WW

>>81004305
Not a Catholic priest, nigga.

>>81004283
It's almost done, I think they will filme april and may on Italy. the ship already sailed

>>81004305
>consult his mom
I think it's safe to say that his mom would be a little bias about the whole sacrifice thing.

>>81004305
Screw his mom. I think the bigger crime is not discussing what to do about Zod with his magical AI ghost dad that actually knows all about Zod and his capabilities.

How many people does Ben Affleck kill?

>>81004352
Even the idea of a possibility of another Freebird scene has me hype.

>>81004008
>His not going public was also (probably more so) about the social ramifications and the lives that would be lost In the wake of his reveal

What?

>>81004483
He's saying that Clark doesn't act openly as a superhero and lets Zod set the tone for alien-human relations because people would shit themselves into crazed mass hysteria, rioting in the streets, with the horses eating each other and cats and dogs living together when they realize that they're not alone in the universe. As exemplified in that scene in Man of Steel where absolutely none of that happens whatsoever, but totally would, because it would in real life, because it just would fuck you.

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Reading reviews now
>Not muh Marvel
>Not enough jokes
>Too serious

>>81004658
>not enough quips

Dropped.

>>81004658

>We still have another 250 reviews to go

Buckle up. Final score is still up in the air. I'm expecting this to settle at around 50%. AoU and Ant-Man had low scores (Not this low but rotten) at first

>>81003889
Fuck you he's not and fuck Snyder too.

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This is what I've always feared. What if this movie is shitty, and what if it bombs?

Wouldn't that basically end WB as a studio? Aren't they fucking counting on this film to do really well?

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>BvS' RT page has literally been stuck at 17 fresh with 25 rotten for the past 2 hours.

This movie premiered in 3 different continents & only 42 reviews to show for it?

What the fuck is the hold up?

>>81004752
Fuck you he is

>>81004798
just refreshed at NOW we have 18 with 26 rotten. It's gonna be divisive as fuck.

>>81004778
Not gonna bomb no matter how much you want it to.

>>81004266
>The movie doesn't explore those social ramifications at all, so it becomes a moot point.
No its not, the concern is valid in this horrific chaotic world regardless if it's confirmed or not.
That's like saying a individual airport should not have security just because nothing bad happens at it tomorrow.
>I want to talk about the fact that you can and have made that little diatribe that a few dozen times already
I really haven't man.
>and for all your whining about the campy silly Donner movie
I like the first 2... and I rarely whine about it at all unless people demand a Superman comic or movie should never ever deviate from its example even tho the entire point of remakes and re-adaptions is to do something different and new.
>that you've been defending for months now as some kind of masterstroke.
What do you even mean by masterstroke?
I brought it up because I'm sick of people lying and claiming the only reason Clark did not reveal himself was out of selfish reasons which is not the fucking case.
>And it does it BETTER than Snyder did it!
No he said it in a hopeful yearnful lookijg forward to the bright future manner.
That doesn't make it better, Mos said it as warming or cautionary statement, both are perfect valid paths to take.

I bet you think The Dark Knight Returns Superman was weak willed also while the truth is he sacrificed his own freedom so his friends could live and not be hunted down.

>>81004778

It wont bomb. Bombing is when you don't make back your production cost. For DC movies to do well they actually do have to adopt the Marvel method. Critics have decided that that is how a Superhero movie should be, an action comedy

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>>81001878
>be greek
>start getting into comics in my early teens
>library has george perez Wonder Woman run
>holy shit this is amazing
>start buying the Jimenez/Rucka stories
>holy shit this is even more amazing
>Diana is prominently featured on JLU, she's boring but at least she's getting some exposure
>Infinite Crisis happens, everything goes to shit
>Wonder Woman movie announced, but its Joss Whedon
>WB doesn't like his direction, thank god
>tv gets announced
>its a trainwreck, but at least it never made it past pilot
>A few years later, Azz finally gives us another good WW run, things looking up
>WB finally wants to bring Diana into live action
>they select talentless israeli skeleton to show up as a glorified cameo in one of the blatant examples of nepotism ever
>for some reason they start filming her solo movie before they can even see how people react to her
>its set in WWI so they can avoid being compared to Captain America
>Diana is 5000 years old
>from the mind of the man who wrote fucking PAN
why is being a Wonder Woman fan so suffering?

>>81004836

41% now. It's climbing lads.

>>81004928
How would you write Wonder Woman or bring her to the big screen then?

Arcs?
Quirks?
Villains?
Supporting Cast?
Gags?
Costume?

>>81002982>>81002464

what are you shitting me??? just like jesus??

>>81004658
It's insane. People are literally saying that because this isn't EXACTLY LIKE MUH MARVEL MOVIES, it's bad.

>>81004906
I hope this movie does well just because of that. I want to watch different types of superhero movies than action comedies.

>>81001878
>It's Batman v Superman v the contents of your bladder in Zack Snyder's too-long, just-passable 155-minute superhero slugfest.

So I guess Titanic is automatic garbage, fucking critics

oh and

>As superhero spectacles go, Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a grand one, with a mondo-operatic climax and a final shot infused with quivering, exhilarating molecules of grace. It's also not much fun.
>not much fun

lmao

>>81004928

speaking of Wonder Womans age and the the JLU. how old was shein that? I remember an episode with her recognizing something in a museum as if she knew the artist personally but it was something ancient

>>81003300
/r/ing the Faora flirts with Lois Lane greentexts, please.

>>81004778
It won't bomb, but mostly because it has no competition. If they hadn't change from May 6, it would get destroyed.

>>81004976

>if I ignore the content of the reviews and just look at the blurbs, I can ignore them because they don't confirm to my bias

>>81004658
I think it's more "this movie is in serious mode while having retarded imagery and piss drinking and zombie aliens and weak ass symbolism and expecting me to give a shit"

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>>81005001
Marvel has them whipped well

>>81004658
>>81004976

people liked nolan's stuff, which is VERY different from the marvel formula

but i guess you just found your scapegoat reason to justify this shit

>>81004961
Adapting a huge chunk of what Rucka did would be for the best.

Making her an ambassador is the smartest thing DC has ever done. It shouldn't be forgotten and makes her stand out from something like Thor.

Fighting Ares first would be the way to go since you do have to introduce the gods, but I'd also set up Barbara Minerva so Cheetah could be the central villain of the sequel.

Costume is pretty much the one thing I'll give snyder that he did right and even then, that's really Wilkinson's stellar work. The high heels/raised heel is a bit much though.

>>81004882
>I really haven't man.
Your posting style is too signature for you to hide behind anonymity as well as you think you're doing. Especially when you only say the same four things over and over.

None of the characterization has any basis in the movie's reality. It's just supposition that the rest of the story actively contradicts, ant yet characters don't grow or change from that contradiction. That's negative character development, and as usual, now you're going to go 'I don't see why that's a bad thing why is that a flaw".

>>81005001

>As superhero spectacles go, Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a grand one, with a mondo-operatic climax and a final shot infused with quivering, exhilarating molecules of grace. It's also not much fun.
>not much fun

What the fuck does that mean? She liked it but because it wasn't fun it wasn't good?

I'm seeing that "fun" word a lot

>>81004906
>
>Critics have decided that that is how a Superhero movie should be, an action comedy

Critics still loved the Dark Knight more than any marvel movie. Have you ever considered, maybe people aren't unwilling to accept a serious superhero movie, and maybe Snyder is just terrible at making one?

>>81004778

No, box office isn't the only revenue stream for these companies.

It'd take a string of very big flops like what happened in the 90s to really scare warner, at worst with this flopping they fire a bunch of executive, tsujihara and rush out a trilogy of solo batman flicks to print money.

That said I don't think it'll bomb but it'll be really interesting to see how much it drops in the second week and how much Asia likes it.

>>81005163
Man of Steel triggered so many people in 2013 that "fun" got turned into a buzzword.

>>81003362
YOU SOUND LIKE SUCH A FUCKING VILLAIN.
Would you be willing to shave your head?

>>81005163
It means that the movie was over the top and bombastic but not actually entertaining for all its pomp and circumstance. Style, but no substance to make that style enjoyable.

BUT FUCK THAT SHE SAID THE F WORD LET'S ALL QUOTE IT AND DISREGARD EVERYTHING ELSE FOREVER.

>>81005117

Rucka is a shit

>>81005111

>people liked nolan's stuff

Critics love sucking Nolans dick. Nobody gave a fuck about begins. It's BO was dogshit compared to other heroes. Thank fuck Heath died or that wouldn't have broken a billion either

>>81005111

people liked Nolan's batman

people like Super

people liked Sin City 1

people liked 300

people liked the latest xmen stuff

people liked chronicle

>t-they just dislike b-because i-ts not l-like MCU!!!

>>81001962
Well that may be due to her being limited to a minimum of 12 lines of dialogue in the movie.

But to carry your own movie, well is we going to be a silent film?

>>81005001
>As superhero spectacles go, Zack Snyder's Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is a grand one, with a mondo-operatic climax and a final shot infused with quivering, exhilarating molecules of grace. It's also not much fun.
What? "This movie was great, but not fun so slap that rotten on there"

>>81005163
She also acknowledges that /fun/ is not what it sets out to be or what she went in expecting

>>81005207
It's already shaved.

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>these are professional critics

>>81005174

The Dark Knight came out in 2008, the same time the first MCU films did. It essentially got grandfathered into being predigest.

If it came out today, critics would say its shit.

>>81004906
So does that mean that blue and gold would blow every marvel movie out of the water.

>>81005226
like you've ever read his WW run

>>81002397
>Honestly I'm not worried about this film.
>Outside of RT scores I've only heard nothing but positive things so far.

Ah hopeless optimism. Your downfall is so sweet.

>>81004152
>We could have had del Toro in one concise movie
>instead we got jackson shoe horning in donut steels and padding everything into a trilogy
WHO THE FUCK GOT THE MONEKY PAW

>>81005249
You know thats not the whole review right?

>>81005249
>exhilarating molecules of grace
What the fuck does this mean
Why are reviews filled with such bullshit descriptions

>>81005281
>It's not professional unless it tells me what I want to hear.

>>81005281
there's literally nothing wrong with anything here

sorry you're so asspained

>>81005244

Were people even aware that Sin City and 300 were based on comic books? Because I know nobody did for Kingsmen

>>81005244
People just hate anything that's not MUH SUPERMAN. It's painfully obvious to spot the biased critics.

>>81005328
They're trying to be eloquent but lack the vocabulary.

>>81005281
Professional critics are a joke. What are their credentials, why should I put stock in these people's opinion?

So what Im gathering from the early reviews is that people want the same formula like a damn infant and BvS doesnt give them that correct?

>>81005281
Okay, I understand disliking too much CGI, since usually what that means is too obvious or obnoxious CGI, but why is he citing Oscar winners as a negative?

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>>81005306

wanna test me nigga?

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>>81005302
I sure hope so.

>>81005281

I'm sure that cunt won't have the CGI complaint for Civil War

>And of course now he’s squaring off against Batman, for reasons that even the film can’t quite understand. “He has the power to wipe out the entire human race,” says Ben Affleck’s Batman of Henry Cavill’s Superman. “If we believe there is even a one percent chance that he is our enemy, we have to take it as an absolute certainty.” Bruce, you’re meant to be among the smartest men on Earth and you can’t tell 1 per cent from 100 per cent? That makes literally no sense.
This is a professional review.

>>81005321
Write a better review next time sweetheart.

>>81005281
Filth. I can't wait for this to make bank.

>>81005297

You think it's more likely that every single critic in the world changed their mind about how they like their Batman, or that Zack Snyder, the guy who never made a good movie in his life, made another not good movie?

Also >>81005244

>>81005281
one of them says to literally wait for the next marvel movie, they arent even trying to hide the bias anymore

>>81005375
Sounds about right. It's just so sickening to read.

>>81005355
They were marketed pretty heavily as being from Frank Miller

>>81005281
>This is "Paradise Lost" for superheroes. It twists and grinds two of the most classic comic heroes, wringing new, less altruistic emotions out of them until their dashing smiles turn to angry grimaces.

Um. Yeah. That's form a positive review (60% kek)

The "good" reviewers are no better. Anyone that has actually read Paradise Lost and seen Opera would know that any comparison to even a good superhero movie is a fucking insult. Its literal buzzword replacement of substantive analysis.

>>81005314
>Intial reactions from moviegooers were nothing but praise.
You have to admit that there is a dissonance going on between the professionals and the audience.

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What did he mean by this?

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>>81005297
No it fucking wouldnt

Will you snyderfags ever stop with the persecution complex bullshit

>>81005394
The critics went in expecting a crappy movie and came out having only paid attention to anything that could validate their opinion.

ITS UP 41% ITS TOO EARLY FOLKS!

>>81005394
Holy fuck I think I heard a sonic boom from how fast that went over their head.

>>81005453
Cavill Superman still sucks.

>>81005467
Except it doesn't even validate their opinion
They just didn't understand the line at all

>>81005453
>>81005446
>>81005394
And so are those. Their both bad.

Wait till the dust settles. It'll still be sub 50.

>>81005381
>posting an image somehow proves you've read it
okay retard tell me why its so bad

>>81005379
Correct. They hate that DC isn't joining the collective.

>>81005394
stupid people view highly intelligent people as stupid, its not their fault its just how our minds work

>>81005469
Mine is showing 39%.

>>81005394
What the fuck is that guy even saying? this review in particular is both fishy and stupid.

>>81005255
YOU
DIABOLICAL
SON
OF
BITCH

>>81005465
Jesus actual Christ was that stupid.

>>81005380
Okay, you know how sometimes you can go to like, a Dreamworks movie, and you sit down, and the character is voiced by Chris Rock and all you can hear is Chris Rock, and it takes you out of the story? And then you go home and you can't remember the character's name, just that he was voiced by Chris Rock, and it's really obvious the studio hired him so they could have that star power name in their credits?

This complaint is the live action version of that. You see the actor, not the character, and it's usually a sign that the performance or script isn't strong enough for you to see anything but. It's also a sign that the studio is banking not on the script or the director or anything but the actor's pre-installed fanbase to boost the movie's sale's (which is why JLaw is in EVERYTHING these days). Because in the mind of a studio executive, they won an Oscar, so they must be good for every role forever from now on, right?

>>81005504
Their opinion, I assume, is unfavorable.
Nitpicking minor details under the guise of confusion is part of that opinion.

It would be like if /co/ went into "Captain America: Civil War" and nitpicked the death toll of the Battle of New York, though that IS at least a valid complaint about the overall MCU.

>>81005394
>for reasons the film can't quite understand
Nigga it sounds you don't understand

>>81005394
Are you telling me that you actually think Batman has a logical plan here

there's a 1 percent chance any person every could be the next Joker

why don't you put the whole world in a bottle, Batman

>>81005555
Then go look it up. Its from GQ.

He goes on to give some direct criticisms. I was actually interested in seeing BvS on the weekend, but not anymore.

>>81005467
Good thing you guys aren't guilty of that in any way whatsoever.

>>81005589
Why is it a valid complaint?

Here's a question: Which cinematic universe will likely fall apart first: the DCEU, or the MCU?

>>81005581
Yeah okay, that makes sense. It's not an issue I often have, but that's a good explanation.

I think critics have a stigma towards comic book movies more often than not when they try and be serious. If it doesnt make them chuckle every 15mins then it must be shit right? Jesus. But hey I might be wrong and this film could be shit, but a man can dream right?

>>81005605
It will make a shitload without you.

>>81005394

So I was right. Normies can't stand the fact that Batgod is not perfect.

>>81005414

Reread my post, I said their like of the movie was grandfathered in. They remember liking the movie then, but now their tastes have changed.

Also most of these >>81005244 were made before 2008 too. The X-Men movies do better because their historical fiction, which critics like.

>>81005532
How? did you refresh it? 18 positive 26 rotten?

>>81005629
The Battle of New York was too massive in scale and area-of-effect that it would have been extremely improbable for billions of dollars worth of damages to only result in a relative handful of casualties.

Yet a shot from a recent "Civil War" trailer showed that the death toll was around 76 people.

It should also be noted that a scene in "Daredevil" that featured the Battle of New York as a cover story noted that thousands had died, thus making the latter number a retcon as well.

>>81005438

Normies don't know who that is. Stan Lee is the only comic books personality normies know

>>81005670
They didn't have a problem with Batman Begins being serious.

Because Batman Begins was a solid narrative.

>>81005598
1) I'm saying that the reviewer completely misunderstood the line. "100%" in that sentences would be the dumbest thing of all time.
2) Superman going rogue would be a threat to us as a species; it wouldn't just be a few hundred more dead, it'd be literal billions

>>81005598
>So stupid he forgot the part about having the power to genocide Earth
Joker isn't Superman

can we just skip to Fuck Critics I Liked It?

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I've LITERALLY have Zero fucking doubt there are hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars, being deposited on so-called "Reviewer's" PayPal accounts as we speak, from some silly Disney subsidiary (if it was named Funtime Inc. it would be too poetic) that is too well hidden to prove anything.

This is how this happens.

This how a giant corporation kills art.

You are fucking seeing it: form opinions on people without giving them a chance to make up their mind. BvS is really an amazing accomplishment of storytelling, but it has a lot more in common with William Wyler's Ben Hur than The Avengers. It is a story about humanity and not a comedy about people who only look human on the outside.

If anything WB was right about "normies" being mentally unable to GET this movie. And it is painfully obviously that timeless concepts of good versus evil go over Marvel fans' head for the most part because its not carpeted with remedial comedy cliches and bright shiny lights.

If Zach Snyder is guilty of anything, is of elevating the genre into something more abstract and artistic than western audiences can handle. YOU are the ones who are hopeless.

It's a real shame 4chan can't see past Disney's deception. And Good riddance, we don't need you.

>>81005673
Are you really so invested in this movie's success that you have to take it personally?

I'm not even trying to shill, I was neutral. I'm just saying if you want a real review then that'll do.

>>81005723
Reaching back to 2005(pre Iron Man) doesn't help your case.

>>81005685
>Normies can't stand the fact that Batgod is not perfect.
Except in this movie he pretty much is. Even that little speech is excused by Darkseid messing with his brain and Luthor trolling him. Bruce a good boy. He dindu nuffin.

Well, that was a shitty movie.

DC universe officially over.

>>81005774
He isn't though. The movie makes him out to be a flaming, raging asshat.

>>81005743
Preach

>>81005768
I remember when the norm for cape movies was stuff like Blade and X-Men. Now everything needs to be lighthearted and jokey. Shit's depressing.

>>81005723
I have to somewhat agree with >>81005768
here. People have been spoon fed Marvels basic formula for years and its become their comfort zone.

>>81005768
I don't see how it hurts it.
All the "serious" cape movies that have gotten poor reviews have reasons other than their tone for those poor receptions. It's just that you guys have latched onto tone as the be all end all and think that's where the reviews begin and end.

what does jimmy olsen do that people are fraeking about? does he hate superman? he shoots superman doesnt he

>>81005743
>kills art
>Benn Hurr
>not comedy
>good versus evil
>can't handle
>don't need you.

New rule: Once a colony of bats literally lifts Bruce Wayne up in the air as a Christ-like figure, you’re probably watching a movie that takes itself pretty seriously.

JUST

Just saw it, i honestly give it a 7/10. Better than Avenger 1, 2 but not better than the Winter Soldier

>>81005823
It's not his fault. He was manipulated by Luthor, and he's made up for it by saving the world from Doomsday and founding the Justice League.

>>81001878
lol

>>81005897

how did the crowd react?

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>"Overlong, underdeveloped and almost entirely humorless, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice may please die-hard fans by pitting two DC icons against each other. Everyone else may want to wait for the next Marvel movie."
>March 22, 2016 Rafer Guzman

>>81005886
>literally
>in a dream sequence

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>>81002814
>Lex Luthor pissing in people's tea
>Scorpion King-tier CGI
>Superman blatantly murders an human terrorist
>borderline parody-like Christ symbolism
>Justice League shit is incredibly forced and is unnecessary to the plot
>pacing is all over the place
>too many subplots
>ending is ripped from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

But no, you faggots keep believing that the reason why critics are tearing this movie a new one is because MUH QUIPS, MUH FUN and NOT MUH MARBEL.

Give me a fucking break.

>>81005743
Is this a new pasta?

>“Batman vs. Superman” is a disorganized, lead-footed movie that carries itself with unearned confidence; you see every card it’s about to play ten minutes before the movie plays it, yet Snyder doesn’t just slap each one down on the table with gusto, he keeps pointing to it and telling you what rank and suit it is.

>At times it might make you long for Christopher Nolan's delicate touch. Those last four words have never appeared side-by-side before. Life’s funny that way.

fucking savage

>>81005935
>muh dream sequence
>its art
>anything that has christ imagery is art
>its like pottery.

Suicide watch confirmed.

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>>81005708
Yup. Its still the same for me.

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>>81005922

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>>81005743
>

>>81005921
Silence all the time except for the pee part.

>>81006003
thats weird

>>81004778
>What if this movie is shitty
Looks kind of likely at this point.

>and what if it bombs?
That was literally never going to happen, at all, once they had the name Batman vs Superman.

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>>81005743
>>81005824
>>81005886
>>81005973
>>81006008


The problem is, I wouldn't put it past them. Non-Americans wonder why candidates like Sanders or Trump ever got popular. Corporatism and the Kleptocracy didn't stop at banking and finance, it's so bad that it has leaked into entertainment. I'm going to say this without taking a left or right wing slant.

What do we do if art is subverted by money? I'm not saying Batman v Superman is godlike, as I haven't seen it as yet. However, I do have to wonder if the reviews are being utilize to fight some brand war over the consumer's heads. If that's the case then truth and objectivity in displaying the art to promote individual subjective interpretation is lost.

We are literally sitting in an era where the opinions are being made before us due to an endless flow of capital. If the disney hypothesis is true then I'm at a loss for words.

Greediest place on earth would be an understatement. This is more effective than censorship (if true, which I'm not sure. I need to watch BvS for myself before I say anything with conclusive weight.)

>>81005971
>Lex Luthor pissing in people's tea
Has this been confirmed? I mean seriously how could anyone think ''yeah, lets put this in the movie''

>>81005971
>Superman isn't Jesus
>poorly explained critique
>poorly explained critique
>poorly explained critique
Disney shill fuck off.

>>81005886
>Dream scene operating on dream logic
>THIS MOVIE TAKES ITSELF TOO SERIOUSLY
how do you even get to that conclusion?

>>81006049
bvs isn't art

it's capeshit

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>>81002619

>same day as TF5

Wonder Woman is kill.

>>81006049

If the rich Illumaniti whatever people who are supposed to be in charge of this country actually were Trump and Sanders would never have gotten this far

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>>81006064
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Man what happened? We were actually excited for this a couple days ago. And Im not talking about the usual premiere tweets, but from the random people here and there that were just lucky to go. FUCK! Did someone monkey paw us? Is this some kind of sick joke? I guess all it can do is prove me wrong now....

>>81006080
Capeshit can be art.

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>>81006064
>WATCH MY QUIPSHIT DON'T TRY TO WATCH THIS THINKING MAN'S MOVIES

>>81006058
>I don't get it! I need criticisms spoonfed to me!
For someone so convinced he likes something intellectually superior you seem to need a lot of shit explained to you.

>>81002619

>It'll get destroyed just liked Alvin and the Chipmunks did when it came out against Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Sadly, not destroyed enough.

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>>81003812
poor henry cant catch a break
>BvS is getting panned critically
>U.N.C.L.E underperforms at the box office

Henry, if youre reading this I <3 u

>>81003300
>Faora movie when?

honestly? now that Supergirl has set up the multiverse, have her show up there. Say she got thrown out into the multiverse randomly at the end of MoS. You can even throw in whatshisname, the plane pilot military guy, to explain things to supergirl and company.

and after she's there, have her beat the living shit out of everyone. because Antje Traue. unf.
JAWOHL, MEIN KRYPTONIAN FUHRER!

>>81006111

I think that you need to be familiar with the characters to at least like the movie. Or so it seems.

>>81006148
not when snyder directs

>>81005385
Here's hoping they have a booster O's scene in it.
>Booster what the hell di you do
What?
>I had one of the parents from our cereal test group call. Their son is convulsing on the floor screaming for more booster O's.
Oh that. I may have added a sugar substitute to the test batch.
>what kind of additive?
Oh it gives you 4000 times the energy that normal sugar does... And is highly addictive...
>Booster we can't sell crack to kids!
It's not crack although its addictive like it. Plus there are no side effects.
>convulsing on the floor isn't a side effect.
(shrug)

>>81006049
The difference being that the vast vast majority of people don't even listen to online reviews. They'd look at their local paper, word of mouth, or youtube.

Second being that it would be absolutely retarded if the DCU couldn't bank their own counteraction.

>>81006061
Its not the way it operates. Its that its a fucking hackneyed horrible contrived blunt-as-fuck christ metaphor. AGAIN.

Come the fuck on.

>>81006050
It stresses how psychotic and evil he is.

>>81006194
>Supergirl has set up the multiverse, have her show up there.

Didn't you read why Snyder recasted Flash for the JL movie?

He doesn't want ANYTHING from the tv shows. They aren't dark and gritty enough.

>>81005635
The DCU can't even get it up to start with. It's like a 59 year old cuckold vacationing in Thailand. What's the point?

>>81006169
>thinking man's movies

wew

>>81006050
On one hand I do kinda want it in the movie very badly but in the other hand it wouldn't surpised if it turns out to be baseless assumption the reviewer took from a scene.

>>81005635
MCU can stablize with the Avengers just being in the background while single hero stories do things for a while. DC if they don't get away from the Bat and find some way to have fun they'll never be able to live without. Plastic Man Young Jusitce (not the garbage from the animated series) Teen Titians Doom Patrol Metal Men are all things that could be solid films or series of fillms in their own right.

They need to do something.

>>81006244
Man we've reached a point where the defense force just can't recognize that context and execution are things that matter.

>>81006169

It's no surprise people who enjoy the thinking man's fetish enjoy "thinking man's movies".