Hey /co/ Do you remember when there was a White Supremist Biker

>'Hey boy!'

Fuck, I cringed at that.

>You just ain't black enough /co/

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>>80976789
I wish most animation had the balls to do this sort of shit these days.

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>>80977316

I miss Ralph Bakshi animation. I miss rotoscoping. The last rotoscoped movie i saw was I guess a scanner darkly...which was beautiful. but that was the first in years and years and years.

Id love to see the style come back but i suppose its just not that popular or enjoyed. It is just too bad animation in the US has to be for the kids in order to make it. I don't mind all ages animated pictures. Id just love some actual mature stuff that took chances.

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>>80977475
>This is a real thing that existed.

>>80977738

It's actually really good.

Al Sharpton protested it, and then got BTFO when every black person who went to see it loved it because it's actually pro black.

>>80976789
I've heard from people that were there that even they don't remember it so well themselves because of the drugs they were taking at the time.

The problem is that instead of starting an adult animation revolution, Bakshi became the adult animation guy. Everyone thought it was just his schtick.

If others had followed in his footsteps successfully, the American animation scene might look very different today.

>>80977820
Well, Bakshi did inspire some of the people working on television cartoon series to take more risks and get a bit edgier, which ultimately resulted in cartoons losing a lot of the blandness they used to have.

>>80977316
Heavy Metal is literally what 12 year olds think "adult" means.

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>>80977738
Is that supposed to be bad?

>>80977878
patrick baitman, we meet again

>>80977871
Bakshi's biggest disciple is John K, which is kind of unbelievable since he believes that Cartoons can't be deeper than simple comedies.

It's like he took all the edge and comedy and disregarded all of the satire, pathos, and anything more than a dirty joke.

The man's a genius, but none of his students were able to take up his mantle.

>>80977316
The magazine is the best thing ever. Go download the torrent right now of all the issues

>>80977931
Yeah, Bakshi had an impact on the industry, just not in the best possible way.

>>80977475
Say what you will about Bakshi, that he's a hack or a genius, but goddamn that man knew how to make hot ladies.

>>80978008
Agreed.

They're like Crumb girls, except actually sexy. It's a miracle.

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>>80976789
>mfw I jerked it to the big crow chick
no rugrats

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>>80977475
Very polarizing film. The Congress Of Racial Equality (CORE) absolutely hated it, but the NAACP actually supported it. Plus, it had motherfucking Barry White as a goddamned bear.

I've only ever seen Wizards.
Best twist ending ever.

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>>80978043
Indeed.

>>80977700
Did you see Waltz with Bashir?

>>80977931
Its a tragedy

>>80977878
So what the fuck "adult" means mister neckbeard hipster? /co/ always posts shit like that but never explains what are "adult things".

Do you know those retro movies like Fritz or Heavy Metal were made during a times full of over-non violent PC Hanna barbera shit and toys shows at TV?

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>Bakshi """writing"""

>>80979149

Adult = mature.

Heavy Metal (and most "adult" animation in general) is not mature, it's just shit, titties and gore. At best, it's a child's idea of what being adult means.

>>80979271

>i only like mature things for mature people like myself

Fuck off kid

>>80979271
Okay so what "mature" on cartoon is? Any exemples?

You know for Comedy you need to put wacky things inside, and wacky things are related to cartoony violence, funny lewd stuff and vulgar language, because you just can't do that on children cartoons.

People like you always piss off with buzzwords like "edgy" over and over but actually are the first to have edgy attitudes, everytimes talking shit about stuff who just want to make laughs and not intellectual or social commentary.

>>80976825

are you a black?

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>>80979361
>Any examples?
One comes to mind.

>>80979947
What's the problem with that scene exactly?

>>80979271
Truth. Adult animation that isn't all ages would be something closer to, say, The Illusionist. Something that 100% would bore the everliving shit out of a kid but would drive anyone with kids to tears. Not necessarily something graphic, but something that just assumes the audience is of a certain age. There's nothing wrong with blood and tiddies, but imagining that makes any piece of media mature is just silly. By the time we get older, a lot of the appeal of blood and tiddies fades. We'll appreciate it for the spectacle, but not as much as when we were younger and it represented adulthood, like smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol and cussin' and driving cars.

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anyone here have watched this gem?

>>80978043
>>80978439
small male character fucking big chick character? da best

>>80980722
So basically every Robert Crumb comic ever?

>>80980769
Never read a crumb comic that guy is a loser

>>80979271
>>80980666
I would say that The Life and Times of Tim is the most "mature animation" we have in the western world at this point.

>>80980774
How come? Even if he was, his comics would still cater to your fetish. I mena, I don't like the guy either but I still love his work. Altought I wouldnt think that "loser" is the proper title for him. He's pretty much the opposite actually. But a fucking weirdo and a creep, yes.

>>80980786
maybe the most mature powerpoint slideshow

>>80980889
I was talking about the subject matter. The animation style is not important for this discussion. It's not gorey, edgy or lewd and kids wouldn't get it. So that makes it pretty mature in my book.

>>80980693
I thought it was pretty awful.
Not that it was put together poorly; I just didn't like it.

>>80980911
I don't think kids not getting it somehow makes it more mature. I only gave The Illusionist as an example of something that's targetted at older animation fans and unappealing to kids, I wasn't using its mundane plot itself as an example of maturity. Pixar films are pretty damn well thought out while still being popular with kids.

>>80981018
True. What about the movie adaptation of Persepolis then? Haven't seen it myself but from the looks of it, it seems pretty damn mature without being edgy, gorey or lewd.

I wish I had bathtub orgies.

The interviews with Ralph Bakshi are rather entertaining and interesting.

>>80981033
Gorey,edgy and lewd are just tools for comedy actually.

It's again the same shit, you prefers just dramatic stuff ( the thing you call "mature" ) to Comedy stuff, so you starts to says comedies are not adult because humor is a childish thing according to your emo logic.

>>80977475
Watching this now

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>>80977931
>which is kind of unbelievable since he believes that Cartoons can't be deeper than simple comedies.

WATCH YOUR TONGUE, SMART GUY.

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>>80979984

>this sort of stuff is the modern day pinnacle of adult-oriented animated films and will probably set the bar for years to come

>>80976789
>>80977316
>>80977475
Yeah. I remember how garbage it was and how it completely ruined adult animation and made way for garbage like Family Guy and South Park.

With my last words I curse not John K, but the idiots at Cartoonnetwork which allowed the "What A Cartoon" pilot cartoons to air.

Oh sure allow all the talentless hacks into animation which probably suffer from stupidity, but don't allow Disney animators to come up with their own cartoons.

>>80977770
That's because Al Sharpton hates black people

>>80982812
> I hate Comedy and I want just dramas, I completly forgot stuff like Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Tex Avery shorts and Betty Boop existed in the past.
> Feelings, Love stories, Dead people, War, Christian stuff, Only human characters, that's so adult.

Fritz the cat full movie links ;)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtMgQthaAOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRD-7Q-N4Z8
it takes account on youtube and be 18+ (or 21+) -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htIbDWhd93o

>>80982812
Careful with that edge, sonny, you might cut somebody.

Bakshi loved social commentary. Coonskin, Heavy Traffic, Fritz, American Pop and Hey Good Looking are all movies about all the bad shit in their time periods.American Pop is top tier movie and one of the most depressing and hard to watch. I recommend it.

>>80979244
Stfu tumblr.
Take your fedora and cram it up your cunt

my gallery Fritz The Cat on my deviantart
http://fernandomon1996.deviantart.com/gallery/55962436/Fritz-The-Cat

>>80977700
L'illusioniste is another good rotoscope

>>80977316
Found this movie on vhs at goodwill the other day. Bought it for 99 cents.

I'd fuck the bathtub babes.
I'd fuck em so hard.
I'd even HUG them.

>>80980508
when he referred to a black bartender as "boy"?
Gee I wonder.

>>80982812
>I literally have no idea what I'm saying

>>80976789
Wikipedia says it made 90 million. Let me adjust that for inflation.

>510,530,000

Either it was already adjusted for inflation or holy fucking shit.

>>80986298
Was that really a Fruedian slip people made back in the day? Because I only knew that was racist because of this movie.

>>80986298
What's the problem of call a bartender "boy" ? Just another excuse of nigger butthurt for acting antiwhite.

>>80977931
Andrew Stanton also got his start under Bakshi, I believe. ..I mean, it was on the Mighty Mouse reboot, but from what I understand, John K. took it over halfway through.

>>80978744
Not rotoscoped.

>>80977931
>since he believes that Cartoons can't be deeper than simple comedies.

Well John K's ultimate goal was the entertain children which I think is admirable and part of what made Adult Party Cartoon so disappointing. He just wanted a kid's show that wasn't trying to educate or instill morals in the kids who spent all day doing the same thing at school

>>80986426
Boy is actually really REALLY old anti-black racism. Like plantation days old, slave owners in the south would never refer to a slave as a man since Abolitionists used "all men are created equal" as their primary argument.

All male slaves were referred to as just male or boy. Male in the context of sales, boy when addressed.

So boy is actually one of the worst ones to use. Unlike nigger however, its been mostly forgotten in the north by those who's klan brothers haven't taught them it.

>>80986709
This.
Fritz was just talking about how progressive and totally non-racist he is, then casually slips out with a demeaning phrase.

>>80981311
This, he's a very interesting person and his process is even more so

>>80976789
Posting some Bakshi links n Youtube. Get em before there gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ptj7VoaWOs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v26rUX16cZM

>>80977475
A fucking masterpiece

>>80986709
Thank you for the explanation.

When I watched the movie the first time, I was thinking the bartender hate Fritz because he's just a white dude on his bar.

>>80979361
Fuck off Tzitzimine, you fucking bean nigger

>>80987871
You know internet is not USA, every posters on that board is not american and every foreigner is not mexican, you need to browse /int/ more fatass peckerwood.