Just got back from watching zootopia, truly beautiful animation

How to Train Your Dragon is very impressive with its 3D as well

>>80881874
Apparently, disney spent 8 months developing advanced fur technology, so theres that.

>>80881874
I like to think that the fur rendering tech they developed is certainly something other companies should take advantage of. Beyond that, yeah, they really did push a ton of good design ideas. Most of them could be applied to 2D animation: Color palate, general shapes, fucking insane detail, etc. But what really gets me is all the little changes in expression. Just look at the way their eyes will dart around during conversations, or what some random guy is doing in the background. Its such a little thing that adds so much life to everything and is perfect for CG.

disney magic

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>Zootopia will descend into chaos. It'll be the Wild West all over again. No law, no order. Fire will spread across the world. The people will fight... And through battle they will know the fullness of life.

The water below the hospital was really good. As well as in the rainforest. All of the environments were really detailed. I also recently saw the movie a 3rd time. So I was just paying more attention to the landscapes.
And everytime the sad judy scene under the bridge makes me feel.

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>>80882025

>>80882012
>So fluffy!
>sheep never let me get this close!
>It feels like cotton candy.

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I wonder if future media will delve more into Nick's past. We already know he didn't rely exclusively on his pawpsicle scheme because of the skunk rug bit. What's likely the best and worst stuff he's done in his life? Does he have any huge regrets or happy memories outside of his youth? Is there anything he fears Judy finding out about?

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>>80881888

i saw it few months ago, didnt age well.

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>>80882087

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Rango is still really impressive, for being 5 years old now. I only got a chance to see a cam of Zootopia, so don't know how it actually compares.

>>80882076
Are there 300 Big Rabbit clones?

>>80882124

That CGI looks really good.

>>80882107
I actually did the same with both movies and thought it held up fine, 2 looks a lot better though for obvious reasons.

>>80882118
Why is bellwether such a savage? Oh yeah it's because she best dad!

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china disappoints as usual.

>>80882087
>sheep never let me get this close
Sheep confirmed for the most racist animal.

>>80882124
Rango comes very, very, very close, but the fur technology in Zootopia is a milestone in computer animation that deserves respect, and I'm not sure if Rango has any characters with fur. It's almost cheating in a way.

>>80882176
>They can make friends?
Why you so racist, China?

Is Zootopia the Half Life of Disney Animation?
>production/planning for it is on its way to being done
>they're told by higher-ups that it needs an overhaul/to be remade
>is made during a stale-state of unoriginal/uninteresting industry
>becomes a hit on launch
>community outpour mods (fanfics, fan art, etc) the shit out of it
>becomes a classic (yet to be confirmed)

>>80882236
Only if Zootopia 3 never happens.

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>>80882182
There weren't very many that I could recall, and they largely had a dirty look to them, so nothing really fuzzy.

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Saved it from last thread.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BdZqX73qAY

>>80882272
well, they already said that there won't even be a zootopia 2, so...

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>>80882312
Yeah, up close it doesn't look nearly as good as Zootopia's fur tech. I mean, it took them like, 8 months developing the fur technology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaqmn55w4IA

>>80882374
WHAT

>>80881874
Ditto.
The highs
>Characterization
>Fun Noir style detective plot if predictable twists
>Nick was a rogue instead of a veteran Cop, which would've lead to the usual cliche "Old guard vs new rookie" Buddy-Cop dynamics but made it more interesting instead
>Lots of call backs and fun workings with its short cast in a short amount of time
>Bunny Waifu
The Lows
>Judy finding out the secret to the Savage'ing by coincidentally being introduced to/remembering the plant was a lil far fetched
>Ending seemed rushed, Bellwether was arrested and done with 5 minutes after her reveal, wanted to see more of her and plan, what was her endgame, ect
>That's more of an effect of the movie only being 90 min long
>Kid's in the theater weren't laughing. I don't know if that's good or bad, but I think they made the tone a lil too adult, not much slapstick, ect

But overall really enjoyable to see would marathon again/10.

>>80882012
God, that wool looks real.

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>>80882374

>>80882374
They said we need to talk to their boss, which means it's not planned yet. It's standard, but disappointing because there was the slim treatment that it'd get the Lilo and Stitch treatment and have more content ready to roll out after the movie drops.

>>80882406
i feel like the last quarter of the movie suffered the most from the rewrites, but hey what can you do. At least the ending is good in that it opens up a world of possibilities for the characters.

>>80882446
I'd rather have less content that's all great than a bunch of stuff that's boring to watch

>>80882012
This is so good, that something about it reaches a weird level of uncanny valley effect. It's like if they didn't get it EXACTLY right or render anything just a tiny touch off, it would've come out creepy and not good. But it is good, it's just barely good enough that the sorta reflexive effect is avoided.

>>80882107
>>80882148
>>80882124
I wonder if the fact that I was born and grew up at the cusp of internet technology and CGI usage is the reason why "didn't age well" just isn't something I notice at all or doesn't bother me if I ever do.

>>80882406

>think they made the tone a lil too adult

Thank fuck they did.
Not everything has to be a standard disney kiddy laughfest.
For example had there been some kinda annoying sidekick saying cringeqorthy and predictable one liners, the movie would have been a lot lower in quality.

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On my way back from the movie my thought went like that

>why the fuck would he know what night howlers were (either the poison he was just hit with or the wolves)
>why was he even targeted
>...
>why was he even targeted
>what did he know
>what was he going to do

Who is Mr. Otterton!

>>80882446
But the Lilo and Stitch stuff was poorly made and clearly rushed out the door. Probably the only moderately good thing that came out of it was the actual sequel.

>>80882519
He was a florist

He knows what Night Howlers are because they're flowers

>>80882503
I know how you feel
The Incredibles looks completely disgusting by today's standards but I can watch it without caring because it's so damn good

>>80882519
>>80882519
He's a florist. He likely knew of the nighthowlers seeing as how it's his profession. A polar bear was missing, likely one of Mr. Bigs or related to him in some way, being the Tundra Town mob boss.
Otterton is his florist, he was on his way to inform him when he was shot.

>>80882503
you will.

Go watch "happily n'ever after"

Not everything was toy story 2 unfortunately.

>>80881874
Zootopia is amazing. It's worth watching just for they eye candy alone.

>>80882406
>>Judy finding out the secret to the Savage'ing by coincidentally being introduced to/remembering the plant was a lil far fetched
All you need to do to suspend your disbelief is to consider the fact that common names vary from place to place, family to family. Judy's family (and maybe rabbits in general) traditionally referred to them as something different than others. Maybe her parents knew that the gutter trash call them something different, but never felt the need to tell their kids.

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>>80882503
It depends on a lot of factors, honestly as to whether cg will age well or not. Stuff from way back though, like Reboot and such is pretty heinous no matter what though.

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>>80882519
My guess is:
He was a florist, so he knew about the side-effects of the Nighthowlers and what they were in general.
Knowing about that would have made him a liability if he were to inform the higher ups, and considering Duke was probably stealing Nighthowler bulbs all around town, he might have suspected something, especially when cases of predators suddenly going savage started turning up.

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>>80882236
>>80882236
>production/planning for it is on its way to being done
in production hell since the middle of the last century

>they're told by higher-ups that it needs an overhaul/to be remade
complete 180 on Elsa post Idina's Let it Go

>is made during a stale-state of unoriginal/uninteresting industry
not sure if it fits but it's low-key post-Wreck-it-Ralph

>becomes a hit on launch
duh

>community outpour mods (fanfics, fan art, etc) the shit out of it
double-duh

>becomes a classic (yet to be confirmed)
probably


Well, Frozen seems to fit that bill as well.

I would have liked an ending where Judy jumps in front of Nick the night howler pellet and he has to deal with her going crazy. Instead of just a shit confession on a pen they'd have actual proof that things werent predator specific

>>80882576
I wanna watch the scene where Judy is on the train headed to Zootopia again.
That was fucking beautiful

>>80882550
This sort of makes sense, but it's still a little far-fetched that nighthowlers wouldn't be more widely known given their extreme and potentially deadly effect.

>>80882554
wait, it is? It's awesome!

>>80882460
In the original script, Nick (and later Judy) were supposed to be Framed for some sort of crime and I imagine it'd be more "Who Framed Rodger Rabit"-esque with Bell's plan enacting the same way as the toon from that movie. You can sorta see the rewrites and pacing problems at the end of Zootopia however since the 3rd act is the shortest in the movie.

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>>80882663
No but Judy was told that bunnys can go savage, pne bunny bit her mom.

Were u paying attention?

>>80882657
Frozen belongs in the frozen general

Oh wait

>>80882683
Japanese dub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWtC88ViBXo

how did they make nick to be so cute

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>>80882570
>happily n'ever after
Never heard of that one. Probably never released in cinemas here. Looking at this screenshot, it looks pretty decent. Way more decent that a lot of stuff I'm fine with.

I'm guessing you kids are just way more visual creatures.

>>80882518
The Nostalgia Critic doesn't seem to like it that much. Doug's problem with Zootopia seems to be it's not looney toons or tom and fuckin' jerry with enough violent wacky hijinxs and cartoon slapstick. He's a huge dork, what does he know?
Sorry for injecting that tibit of autism

>>80882406
>Kid's in the theater weren't laughing. I don't know if that's good or bad, but I think they made the tone a lil too adult, not much slapstick, ect

Good. The less juvenile toilet humor that nearly every other CG movie relies on, the better.

>>80882518
I appreciate that, it was amazing the way it was. I'm just noting that none of the kids seemed to laugh because all the cop stuff and racial war plot seemed to fly right over their heads. Most of them looked confused or bored.

Maybe they'll enjoy it when they're older, I don't know. The only part they weren't kicking their chairs at was the Sloths.

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>>80882519
>>80882550
>>80882563
I was content to leave it as "he's a florist," but after a while it sunk it that he's not just any florist, he's Mr. Big's florist. And that not even the ZPD knew the missing animals went feral. Mr. Otterton, as far as we know, didn't witness anyone going feral so it can be assumed that he somehow obtained information regarding Doug. Doug didn't get his nighthowlers from Weaselton, who Doug hired to snag some after Otterton went missing. Why was he suddenly down a supplier?
It was Mr. Otterton.

What's the best line in the movie?

>He made me an offer I couldn't refuse
>Money!

>>80882146
is there more to this?

>>80882775
Doug's problem with Zootopia is that he's a fucking sheep hitman.

>>80882818
It''s called a hustle sweetheart

>>80882756
FUCK NOW I WANNA WATCH THE WHOLE MOVIE

>>80882624
Meh, I don't mind that whole "Sudden insight/Epiphany" cliche being done, it's quite common to detective movies especially right after the cop is fired or layed off (Or quit in this case) and at their lowest.
I just wish it'd be set up and hinted at a little more throughout the movie, like periodic mentions or tiny clues that all come together true to fashion. That way it'd require multiple flashbacks and not just one so she wouldn't grasp it way too quick.

>>80882804
Rewatch the movie. There are fucking sheep everywhere suspicious.
Two are hanging out right outside the flower shop where Weaselton steals the night howlers.

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Okay lads, deconstruction time:

We know the film is obviously offering social commentary, so under this lens, answer me this:

>Are nighthowlers McGuffins?

>>80882818
>When she goes to sleep do you think she counts herself
>we settled hard
>It's alright to have dreams, as long as you don't believe in them too much
>Bogo saying the world needs good cops like Judy

>>80882818

>>80882885
In a sense yeah, but they are introduced earlier in the movie. And the first victim being a florist should have been a huge giveaway clue. They should've been treated as a more integral element to the movie that they'd investigate along the way.

And they are kind of like Magic Heroine, you know? It'd really justify racial bias IRL if we had a drug that made minorities go insane.As is only Coke can do that, and that's a white people drug.

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>>80882818
YES. YES I DO.

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>>80882850
The fuck are you talking about?

Doug's clearly a Quail

>>80882818
My mommy says she wishes you were dead!

>>80882885
I think I'm the only one that thinks this, but they remind me of bath salts. synthesized from a plant that is known to cause freakouts in large doses (the khat plant), cause incredibly violent outbursts, and ironically easily reversible.

And no, they weren't really McGuffins, if you pay attention you get hints throughout the movie.

Finish this sentence.

Zootopia is one long feature-length respectful nod to__________________.

>>80882933
Bath Salts

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>>80882885
Nighthowlers = ISLAM.

Most people think it's being Arabs that make tons of Arab terrorists.

But shoot someone else, even white people with ISLAM and then BOOM. Savage.

It's not internal biology. It's what you're poisoned with.

>>80882885
Isn't a MacGuffin something a character pursues with no explanation? That's not really it.

They're definitely a Chekhov's gun.

>>80882818
>Never let them know they got to you

>>80882885

Nighthowlers == Islam
Ewe == Jew

>>80882959
>Zootopia is one long feature-length respectful nod to__________________.
furries

>>80882884
Alright, but what does that have to do with Otterton going to the mafia to save Zootopia without incriminating himself?

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>>80882045
I just saw it for the 4th time and you pretty much summed it up nicely.

Interestingly I have noticed an up-tick in the number of people seeing it. After the first week or two the crowds die off quite a bit. I usually grab the last show on sundays or mid-week and more often than not i'm the only person in the theatre. But the last two times there have been small "crowds" of about 20 or so. I'm curious to see if this trend continues.

The raindrops hitting the glass of the domecar on the train she takes into Zootopia was pretty amazing.

>>80882959
Jerry Siendfeild

>>80882958
>>80882933
But they seem so out of place and "there to move the plot along/be the evil device" in Zootopias tight little tolerant narrative. It's about not being afraid of different people and rejecting stereotypes. Doesn't a drug that literally blows all of that away throw a wrench into that narrative?

It seems so arbitrary

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>>80882775
Doug saying that Kung Fu Panda 3 was better than 2 pretty much discredited any sort of opinion he has.

What did you think of YMS' review

>>80883000
>save zootopia
Sounds to me like he was warning his esteemed customer of the threat, and an explanation to the savage polar bear.

>>80882885
What are nighthowlers supposed to represent, is what you're really asking

>>80883032
Gonna be honest here, he really only like really off the wall arthouse movies. He nitpicks WAY too hard.

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>>80882959
Mexicans

>>80883013
I think it serves the point that racism can be deliberately stoked by interested parties.

The night howlers aren't specific to predators, they would have made prey animals go crazy too.

is the furry uprising upon us?

>>80883032
I agreed with the Blueberry thing.

But then I wanted the script to be changed so that the ending where Nick overcomes his instincts and chooses to save Judy over eating her won out in the end.

>>80883033
Or that.

It just seems like there were no witnesses (Dawn could have tipped off the wolves so the mayor would have a nice collection of incriminating evidence to bring him down, which begs the question why did Lionheart have a secret army and research lab in the first place). Mr. Big didn't mention that Otterton was the second one of his employees to go missing, so he may be the first and the polar bear is a law abiding citizen, you racist.

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>>80882804
>Mr Big was the one who originally wanted the Night Howlers and paid Otterton to be a supplier
>Bellwether was probably just one of hundreds who knew got hold of them
>tfw the real big bad got away completely scot free
>Weaselton is probably dead by now for crossing Big

>>80883104
No, Weaselton's probably dead because he almost killed Big's daughter.

>>80883099
Mr. Big doesn't Employ Otterton, he's his fucking florist "He's like one of the family."
Also when Otterton is shot, he doesn't have a look of confusion or pain, just "Oh shit".

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KILL ME

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>>80883121
Potato pot-a-to, either way he's dead for pissing off a mob boss.

>>80883013
No, because the movie isn't a direct allegory to racial/class struggle, just commentary on how different people try to incite it. We could have gotten any other plot trying to stir up and frame Predators, the Howlers were just device we got to serve that.

What seemed more arbitrary than the Howlers themselves was how suddenly Judy discovered them and suddenly knew they were the cause of everything all along, that seemed to really "Move the plot along" and bridge the last 2 acts in an abrupt and odd way. But as far as transitions go it's not the worst plot device ever.

It's not as bad as say, "Elsa discovers she can control her powers and heal Anna all with the power of LOVE" sorta dumb plot-device.

This have a good rip yet?

>>80883170
Nope, when the Bluray comes out in a month or two, we can all be happy

>>80883149
JESUS WEPT

>>80882107
The first one, maybe. I dare anyone to say HTTYD 2 isn't fucking gorgeous, though.

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>Judy, d'ya ever wonder how your Mom and me became so darned happy?
>Nope! :^)
>Well, we gave up on our dreams and we settled. Right Bon?
>Oh yes, that's right, Stu we settled HARD.

Lol!

>>80883141
It's not normal to have a florist. It's even more abnormal to have a florist that is like one of the family. On top of that, I don't expect a crime lord to be completely honest with a cop. It's also strange to go tell "something important" to the head of a mafia family instead of the police.

>>80883191

>a month or two

You realize the movie's only been out for two weeks, right?

please be a WQHD Bluray
please be a WQHD Bluray
please be a WQHD Bluray

I want to see the beautiful city they've crafted in the best detail they can offer

>>80882124

I think Rango's gonna age just fine. It was made far enough past the awkward adolescence of CGI, and has strong enough design and lighting, that I don't think it'll ever look "dated"

>>80882818
I'm not sure why but my fav was "the elephant in the room" joke, despite it being extremely obvious

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>>80883201

reminder: if Stu says if you are a failure,just accept it.

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>>80883092
Yes.
The furry community is already going full blown autist over this. Half are trying to stop themselves from ruining a good thing while the rest cannot wait to show up in theaters in fursuits

>>80883205
The Frozen Blu-Ray took 1.5 months after it got out of theaters, so Late May/Early June seems reasonable

>>80883204
That's the savior of the godfathers daughter to you.
And it's normal to have a florist when you're the fucking god father and you gotta send flowers to all the dead people you are involved with.

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>>80883201
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she has like 700 siblings by now

>>80883230

okay but do you really expect zootopia out of theaters that soon? I'm guessing it'll be played in theaters at least until may

>>80882933
>coke is a white people drug
and crack cocaine is a black people drug, and coincidentally, the FBI/CIA loved trafficking coke and selling crack during the 80's.

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>Zootopia might actually dethrone Frozen

>>80883244
Or when you're laundering money.

The general look of the film reminded me of Wreck-it Ralph for some reason that I can't fully place. Must have something to do with using a lot of the same rendering tools.

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Cheek fluff

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>>80882176
i didn't know that nick has a gigolo brother from another mother

>>80883032
I didn't agree with it. Zootopia isn't his kind of film, and it felt like he thought it should have been more of a furry pandering thing, which is kind of weird. Objectively though, from many angles it really is one of Disney's best films in a long while.

>>80883176
>that one episode where young Nick wishes upon a star to make a real friend and gets displaced 8 years into the future in Bunnyburrow

Everyone could see it was going to be a dream episode because they always do that, but come on that was fucking adorable.

>>80883310
Post more pls

>>80883262

and then Moana will disturb everything because she's next Disney princess.

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>>80883201
Wait a minute
>Judy was inspired partly by Superman
>Stu is basically Pa Kent from Man of Murder

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>>80883310
>so you'd never think she's actually the villain.
It is a shame that she's the villain honestly. She had to be hurt really bad to get to that point. I think it's the lack of characterization she gets that makes me feel that way.
Funnily enough my brother and our friend guessed she was the villain when she said "Us little guys gotta stick together."

>>80883361
>Moana tries to do a more mature plot but fucking botches it so bad that Disney decides to neuter Zootopia 2 to Shark Tale levels of bad

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woah

>>80883406
Everything about the fish chopper would have probably gotten them almost maimed and killed and been way too dark.

>>80882818
"Ooooh chieeeeeeeeeef!"
You can just hear his erection.

>>80881874
You are a furry. Good job.

>>80883244
>That's the savior of the godfathers daughter to you.

You mean the godmother of the future daughter of the godfather's daughter?

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Please post more Judy reaction images.

>angry
>happy
>disgusted
etc

nothing lewd

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>>80883149
OKAY!

>>80883380
It's telling in the context of the film where seemingly harmless phrases carry more meaning given certain context. "Us ___ gotta stick together," sounds like you're giving empathetic support, but it can be understood as divisive. "It's us against them."

>>80883204
>It's not normal to have a florist.
It is when your daughter is getting married. Actually, I'd suspect a mob boss would have a lot of events to coordinate that require a florist. Lots of weddings and funerals and classy decorating to account for, not to mention he probably sends flowers as gifts frequently to all kinds of people. Flowers are a great way to send messages.

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>>80883495
> that image

I saw this expression and KNEW I was a furry. Bun-waifu/10, would recommend.

The attached is pretty good too.

>>80883524
>It is when your daughter is getting married

Sheeeeeeeeeeit.

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>>80883527

>furry

pls don't have lewd thoughts about her

>>80882091
Please get on this writefags, I need to know about Nick's tortured past

>>80883543
If I see one furry porn I'm re-acting 9/11

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>>80883495
I want to hold her hand

>>80882986
Honey badger please

>>80883495
So it's safe to say that when the bluray comes out we'll have crispy clean 4k res shots of Judy?

seriously this rabbit is absurd amounts of cute

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>>80883575

I don't understand being sexually attracted to a rabbit, she's adorable like a few week old puppy. You want to cuddle with it, not fuck it.

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>>80883495
has this been done yet?
ive done it terribly

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>>80883579

I want to cuddle her

>>80883592

Yup, I'm hyped. Plus more pictures.

>>80883600

Hopefully someone will be able to do one with real glasses shooped on.

I can give it a shot if someone has a glasses template I ca use.

>>80883524
You're right, but it's still weird for someone dangerous to let someone into his inner circle like that. Rather, it's weird for someone like Otterton to WANT to be in his inner circle. He didn't have to take the job, but he did and he did it in such a way that he had pull with the family. Emmett didn't just drive to Tundra Town, he was picked up by one of Mr. Big's drivers.

Actually, Mrs. Otterton could have suspected the mafia, but she doesn't know a thing about him really. It's tragic that they're the cutest couple that's ever been.

>>80883543
I don't have many, but what would you call someone who'd date a goddamn 3' bunny in an alternate Earth? "Richard"?

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>>80882091
I'd like to see some expansion into Nick's past too. I think the only up parts are that, for Nick being a habitual liar, we at least can be fairly sure the scout thing happened and the skunk butt rug (which has an outside source to confirm)

I honestly can't even begin to seriously guess anything.

For a joke i'd say Nick's biggest shame and the thing he hopes Judy never learns is with no other real emotional outlets in life, Nick briefly tried a hand at story writing under a pseudonym. His works ranged from a pulpy novel series about a rabbit Spy, a dark, dystopian sci-fi work which was his personal feelings on Zootopia and his belief on where it was headed, and the odd children's story and a collection of poetry.

>>80883378
>yfw Bellwether threatens to shoot Nick with Nighthoweler juice
>Judy is forced to break Bellwether's neck.

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>>80883246
Heheh! Well, when she did that presentation when she was young, her parents said she had 275 brothers and sisters (yikes, almost a birthday per day). And there were quite a few very young siblings seeing her off at the train station when she is at age 24. So yeah, you probably aren't far off.

>>80883204
I have a preferred family florist. Whenever someone in my family dies or gets married or needs a corsage for a prom, we all always go to the same guy.

>>80883642
>Feral Jude and nick
Why do I suddenly feel so disgusted by this?

Guys, what makes a villain good?

I felt like they were going the right way with Bellwether, but there honestly wasn't enough development to make you really sympathize with their views.

>>80883636
>Emmett didn't just drive to Tundra Town, he was picked up by one of Mr. Big's drivers.

If I were Mr. Big I wouldn't want Otterton to be able to get to my home any other way. Nothing personal, just as a normal mob boss precaution.

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>>80883662
it's not feral, it's just "what if they were normal talking animals instead of anthromorphic ones?" picture.

I kind of liked it myself.

But if it makes you feel better, have cute.

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>>80882176
>The episode where a rabbit joins the Scene of Right Alliance.

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Let's not forget these little guys that work at Lemming Brothers Bank. Lol

>>80883650
>age 24
So, Zootopia animals all have human lifespans?

>>80883568
>>80882091
I write a little, and Nick's past seems best left sketchy. Not a lot of huge successes or losses; he's hustling with $2 popsicles. He burned bridges with the likes of Mr. Big doing similar hustles and wound up right back at square 1.

Other than running away from home, there's maybe not that much to tell. He probably barely has a GED.

You know, it bugged me that some guy taking in "$200" a day could only pay Finnick $40 a day. Then it hit me - he isn't. He's making maybe $100 and gives Finnick the $40. Finnick only trucks with Nick because he's one of the few employers to not ask many questions about a particular fixed address.

He doesn't because Nick's nearly homeless too.

>>80883701
They reference years when Nick gets hustled by Judy. "Since you were 12, so 20 years".

It's linked to their life story, too. Judy's parents reference what happened to Gideon "when you were kids." She mentions it happened when she was 9.

They seem to have roughly human lifespans.

>you will never learn to put aside your differences with nick

why live

>>80883703
Nick doesn't seem like the kind of guy to run a risk like selling a shitty rug to Mr. Big just for a half-decent payout. I'm wondering if maybe he got in trouble somehow and needed a big payout fast.

I wonder if Nick ever thinks, late at night, about how much he regrets burning that bridge, because Mr. Big always treated him really fairly. Maybe he was too proud to just ask for help?

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>>80883677
It depends on what you want in a villain.

If you want your villain to be detestable, it's a very different thing than wanting your villain to be sympathetic.

If you wanted Bellwether to be more detestable then you need her actions to be more violent.

For example, let's say the original script went through and Nick actually does get HOWLERE'D but his protective instincts make him defend Judy. The proper way to make people detest Bellwether is to have her do something violent to Feral Nick while ranting about how he's just a dumb vicious predator. This provides a parallel that Bellwether is an even more savage person than someone reduced to a wild animal, also exposing her hypocrisy. The best way to make people hate a fucker is to make them do horrible things while being hypocrites like the fucking fucker in my picture

If you want Bellwether to be sympathetic, then she needs her own tragic little flashback or exposition and you must then demonstrate that she's only eliminating Judy because she feels it's necessary.

>>80883677
She wasn't a good villain because she didn't have a real point to her rhetoric. She was wrong. There was nothing outside of the Intro that indicated Predators were prone to revert or prey were inherently superior, thus the narrative gave no reason to sympathize with her or question if there was anything more to her motives akin to a villain like Ozymandias, Amon or Syndrome. She was completely and reprehensibly wrong.

By comparison the Lion had more interesting actions as a villain with complex, yet less interesting motives overall. We should've seen more debate over whether locking others up to save face held any weight for the morale of Zootopia.

>>80883726
>you will never kiss the bunny

why breathe?

I know it's so early...but...

http://strawpoll.me/7121049

>>80883750
Or, well, he didn't think Mr. Big would find out, because who would be dumb enough to pull a fire hazard like a fur rug* so close to the mantle?

* come to think of it, doesn't that mean Nick was dealing in either a taboo area like "natural" wools** or cadavers?

** Art of Zootopia makes explicit the Animals don't wear leather or other animal products. Judy's outfit couldn't use leather, so they went with that future-cop neoprene affair.

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bought another "merch", "games with cards' children book.

this is fun size comparision

>>80883777
I picked "Nick and Judy" because it was the lesser of all evils. The story should keep going forward, but they really need to share the spotlight.

>>80883823
New locales would be interesting, but we barely saw the districts of Zootopia. It'd be nice to continue seeing "MY CITY SCREAMS" police work.

Hell, a good ol' chase through the swamp would be worth it.

It might also hammer home the fact Zootopia is a part of them both now, and for all its faults they really don't want to leave. It's the pack now, you know?

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>>80881888
HTTYD2 looked really, really good. I can't say the same with the story, but damn that flying scene was really good.

Zootopia also had really good lighting and texture. That fucking train scene in the rainforest district was already worth the price of admission.

>>80882490
It's because of the 60 fps and slightly sped up speed.

>>80883860
>That fucking train scene in the rainforest district was already worth the price of admission.

Fucking this, I honestly want to see this scene again but Idk how I can justify seeing this thing 3 fucking times

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>>80881962
>Just look at the way their eyes will dart around during conversations
This. I'm really digging it. I first noticed it when he told Judy that there's a missing stuffed toy somewhere.

>>80883781
I can understand not having leather in this world, because you have to skin an animal to get it, but wool is trimmed from sheep and other animals in a painless process. In fact, domestic sheep need to be sheered regularly or they can have physical problems. And even some people in the real world make a living selling hair.

And Zootopia has ice cream, so we know they get milk somehow.

>>80883795
Is the Art Of book worth it?

>>80883910
>has ice cream
>ice cream

Milkshake Machine Francine when?

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Let's see you try your best, /co/!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GymbbhOBjDM

Remember, art is all about having fun!

>>80883777
Well 83% voted continued adventures of Nick & Judy. What sorts of storylines does everyone want to see in the future?

>>80883955
The marriage storyline.

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>>80883950

>you forgot to sign it meme.

stop pushing it.

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>>80883917

ask someone who has the artbook, all i have is this album and children book.

>>80883910
>I can understand not having leather in this world, because you have to skin an animal to get it, but wool is trimmed from sheep and other animals in a painless process.

This is only a problem with Domesticated sheep, no other "Natural" relative has the same problem. These sheep are literally bred for Wool and have been for thousands of years so they've become incapable of not having those problems, it's bred into them.

It's not unthinkable that Sheep evolved this way with other domesticated mammals somehow in the Zootopia world, but it just has a lot of weird implications.

>Ice cream
Everything stated above, applies in spades to Domesticated Cows and bovines as well.

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>>80883154
Jesus christ, that gif had me tense the whole time, I thought the alligator was gonna Gobble the cat

Was Judy some kind of "Naive racist" before moving to Zootopia? She did grow up sheltered on a farm. Her speech and reaction to Nick's disgust seemed particularly striking at that point in the film.

>>80883967
drawing shit is a meme now?

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>>80883967

what's it like to be autistic?

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>tfw we won't ever get higher rated, quality animated films because the west still sees them as being exclusively for children, and people threw a fit just from Hiccup's dad dying in HTTYD2, and a character smoking in Rango

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Saw it for the second time today - this time in IMAX. The jump in quality was really incredible, and I can't remember the last time I've actively noticed 3D throughout the entirety of a film.

On a side note, do we have a 'REAL ZOOTOPIA HOURS - MAUL THAT MF LIKE BUTTON' image yet?

>>80883750
Maybe he sabotaged his friendship with Mr Big because he was opening up to him.

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>>80883950

>>80883246
Think of how often Judy's parents bone.

>>80884043
Does that mean Judy and Nick would also have a lot of kids or

>>80882804
I thought of it too. It's more of reaching, but I also like to think that Otterton was supplying Nighthowlers, and he only realized later what the buyer was up to. From Mr. Big's words, Otterton was like family, so Otterton went to Mr. Big first to warn him. Big is, after all, surrounded by big preds.

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>>80882818
>And how did you repay my generosity? With a rug, made from the butt of a skunk. A skunk butt rug.
>You disrespected me. You disrespected my grandmama, who I buried in that skunk butt rug.

It's the delivery that gets to me.

>>80884065
It depends of how serious the writer and director were about Funnies and Boxes. But they are guaranteed a lot of fun regardless.

>>80883950

Why is Byron Howard so perfect, /co/?

>>80882885
>>80882978
>They're definitely a Chekhov's gun.
Kinda this. We seem them earlier, although they looked like moldy onions and Judy just spouts some science bullshit about them, which is perfect since later you realize the movie gave you a hint without it being too obvious.

>>80884097
He signs his work.

>>80884086

why did he bury his grandma in that rug anyway?

>>80884097
Because he is really loving what he is doing. As a corporation Disney can seem quite mechanical, but he genuinely seems to love what he created.

>>80884112

he realized it AFTER the fact.

>>80884124
how?

>>80884106
The carrot pen is another one. Used three times in the film but vital for the ending.

>still no torrent

The Lego Movie had a bootleg 2 days after it went to theaters. Get it together, guys.

>>80884137
Maybe Nick felt guilty after he found out and confessed.

>>80884147
Do not understimate the secrecy of The Mouse.

>>80884137

he found a skunk with bald butt

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>>80883524
>Flowers are a great way to send messages

>lovely looking flowers
>card says you'll be iced soon

>>80884147
Where are you? Can't u just go see it in theater

>>80882818

>we bunnies know a thing or two about multiplying

>>80883701
For simplicity's sake I think they basically declared, "All animals have approximately human lifespans."

>>80884182

I'm too fat for the seats :^(

>>80884197
then sue for discrimination

>>80882634
been trying to find a source for that pic, anybody know?
guy said his name was Golly but I can't find shit on him

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I WANT PICTURES! PICTURES OF SPIDER-HAM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ2XkyDTW34

I feel like the proportions in this scene were all wrong, are rabbits really that much bigger than mice?

>>80884218
IF YOU TRY TO SABOTAGE THIS OPERATION, I WILL FUCK YOU LIKE A PIG

>>80883950
I like Byron Howard

>>80882818
Honestly...this:
>>80882941
I was in actual genuine surprise when she said that. I know it can be taken as a friendly thing, but at that moment I was like "What the fuck did she literally admit she loves him?" I was so happy

Thinking back it could just be small shit and not serious at all, but it's also a bit flirty, idk man

>>80884235

i think you saw too many cartoons with talking animals.

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Hey, don't write yourself off yet.

It's only in your head you feel left out, or looked down on.

http://youtu.be/oKsxPW6i3pM

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what a fast thread.

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>>80883950

>>80884303

Nice work anon!

You will be all the rage at parties!

DUDE NIGHTHOWLERS LMAO

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>>80884326

nice to see comedy relief characters are no longer obnoxious.

>>80884297
It's 430 on the US East Coast. People are sleeping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm5Hs8KrCZY

Shakira was a weird voice...

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>>80884358

but not the rest of the would

>>80882818
>He's the opposite of friendly

>He's unfriendly

>>80884386
And the majority of /co/ lives in the US.

>mfw Disney was too Jewish too pay that Zoo off

>>80884147
dude, camrips have been around since two weeks before US premiere. Just search around the usual places.

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Am I the only person wondering how the fuck Judy managed to get ahold of Nick's tax records? She wasn't in the police computer system and she couldn't even run a license plate number without bringing it to the DMV, yet somehow she managed to acquire damning personal information on Nick which she then used to blackmail him into cooperating with her. I loved the movie, but this is a GLARING plot hole.

Any new announcement, cute art, merch?

Just ordered the art book. I'll probably get it after a month, if I'm lucky.

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>>80884397

at least it's not "zoomania" , that sounds like disease

>>80884396

i dont get this joke.

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>>80884358
>>80884386
Welcome to Euro/zoog/.

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>mfw actually starting to like "Try everything"
FUCK. I don't even care for this type of music, it just reminds me a lot of the train sequence from the start and Judy being cute as fuck as usual

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>>80884410

merch? i just posted
>>80884386
>>80883795
>>80882176

however japan is getting something slighlty better:

http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/english/product_release/pdf/p160219_en.pdf

>>80884433
>>80884358
NO. I'm still awake in the US, It's not over YET

>>80884450
Shit I'm surprised Japan isn't getting Judy's dirty panties in a gacha ball.

>>80884450

I NEED THAT PEN

>>80883600

Now she needs a pompadour

>>80884358
I live on west coast and I just woke up an hour ago. I wonder if anyone's cataloged the thread numbers of all these totally-not-generals for catching-up and archival purposes.

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>>80884442
It grew on me too. I couldn't stop hearing it in my head the night I saw the movie.

>>80884442
I like it a lot. Not sure about her other songs, but this was pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6rP-YP4c5I

24 million views and counting. Not bad.

>>80884442
I'm having the exact same problem. Most of the time I listen to stuff like Front Line Assembly and Acid Bath. Why am I liking a Shakira song all of a sudden?

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>>80884487
Don't even joke about generals

THEY ARE WATCHING US

>>80884408
Clawhauser was right there in the scene where she finds out Nick is a lead.

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I hope they make a physical version of this pin sometime, subtle apparel stuff like that is always nice.

Also, is the handbook worth picking up? I'm going to order the artbook but I'm not sure if the handbook covers some different things.

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>>80884442
>>80884494

the song was weakest part of the movie.

i'm having dejavu

>>80884502
>>80884442
Would have happened to me with Wreck-it-Ralph's When Can I See You Again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1YMeDsc-M

If I hadn't already been introduced to Owl City thanks to that Legend of the Guardians movie.

>>80884386
Memo? So are CEOs now sending their messages to their employees using Zootopia stationary?

>>80884415
He says it all shifty-like, as if building up some big, scary secret. Then he just states the obvious. It's juvenile but the delivery got me.

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>>80884544

oh, another lost-in-translation joke.

>>80884028
Zootopia had much more of an edge to it than I initially expected, and the social commentary it contained was great as well. But you're right, it would be nice for western animation to get out of the "for children" ghetto and start displaying more subversive things again. I'm hoping Zootopia manages to start a trend in this direction.

>>80884442
My little sibling and I have been singing it randomly ever since we saw the movie. It's not that great but it's catchy and gives a great mood.

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Judy is such a great supporting character for Nick.

>>80884506
How did Judy get the security clearance to see that information?

Just saw this for the second time, this time with people who weren't hyped to see it. Their reactions were interesting, two liked it saying it was one of the better Disney movies put out recently, whereas the other guy who's a film snob and never watches kids movies couldn't get over the fact that we got him to see a kids movie and couldn't get over the fact that it was written for kids. I personally think he liked it okay, but he's just in denial.

>>80884450
The last two are the only ones I can't find in my country. The Nick plush with sounds is kind of disappointing.

>>80884602
who are these? background characters?

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>>80884032
You lucky s.o.b.! The closest IMAX to me is in Victoria, and near as I can tell they aren't showing Zootopia.

http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Zootopia-Graphic-Novel/dp/1772751774/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1458377827&sr=1-5&keywords=zootopia+novel

what do you think the prequel will be about?

>>80884602
>tfw the jock steals your qt doe gf

>>80884621
>film snob

You will never get those types to admit to liking anything. Not ever oscarbait. At the very least, they'll proclaim the superiority of (insert film that DIDN'T win an oscar that year) over the actual winners.

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http://strawpoll.me/7121285

>>80884518
Oh fuck now I have to listen to When Can I See You Again for the rest of the day. Again.

>>80884634
Makes me curious. I have like, an IMAX within walking distance right now. But I think it's showing Allegiant right now.

>>80884621
I had a friend like that, he just kept going back to the YMS review cause he can't think for himself sometimes. Everyone else I know that's seen it loved it though.

>>80884658
Deepest lore.

>>80884652
Marries some big lug Baloo type that runs the grey area of the law who loves her unconditionally. Can't stop making sheep puns though.

>>80884645
>the graphics
Fuck right off.

>>80884621
He's definitely tsundere for the movie. It's not just the fact that you guys got him to see a kid's movie, it's that he secretly didn't find it that bad and that's alarming for him.

>>80882406
Silence usually means that they're immersed in the movie and it's not a bad thing.

>>80884691
>it's the top voted item
Seems to be a valid option

>>80884648
Have on emore.

This actually made me like Croods even more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tyWxLjGgg0

I really really like Adam's music.

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Anyone else have comments on the 3d? I first saw it in imax 2d and I'm about to go see it imax
3d.
>>80884032

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>>80884701
>fuck interesting story and characters as long as it LOOKS GOOD

>>80884701
I'd have called it the animation or the visuals, but whatever.

>>80884710
I'm rewatching Arrested Development. I'm just really glad Bateman's in this.

>>80884718
literally no one said that you turbo autist faggot shitface

>>80884710
As I said, it was very good, at least for me. I saw it the first time in 3D in a standard theatre, and the IMAX 3D was significantly better.

However, I must point out that it was a dedicated huge-as-fuck IMAX, and not one of those conversion ones. I suppose your mileage may vary.

>>80884710
Was forced to see it in 3D because it was the only version that had original english voices.
Literally didn't matter, no point where you felt things jumping out.

Was just a cash grab from the cinema since they wanted to make up for bad sales of the original version.

>>80884634
>>80884653
IMAX movies typically play all at the same time in every IMAX auditorium in the country. All of them playing Star Wars, then all of them playing Deadpool, then all of them playing Zootopia, then all of them playing 10 Cloverfield Lane, now all of them playing Allegiant. Since at most only one IMAX movie comes out at a time, it makes it easier for them to schedule what goes in their big big screen.

>>80884658
Nice. That's a new one for me.

Does anyone else think the subway car scenes where she's on its roof and nearly gets hit by red flashing warning lights hanging from the tunnel and the tipping on the corner was inspired by "Speed"?

>>80884693
That's what I got from him too. I'm paraphrasing, but he said "I feel like I have to get drunk and watch some porn or something to get my head right." He's used to depressing or weird shit, like, off the top of my head, Inherent Vice. Also said "there were moments where I went 'wow, that was almost well written.'" So yeah, tsundere

>>80884730
Literally what you mean by voting for it.

>>80884748
To clarify, this is the US schedule. Zootopia IMAX can still be playing in overseas IMAX theaters despite it only having been in the US for the first week of the movie.

>>80884710
It's fine.

>>80884741
I'm jealous. It's a significant drive for me to get to a real IMAX theater.

>>80884747
Most 3D displays and movies are pretty shit and even if they do improve the experience it's usually marginal at best. I think VR headsets are really what's going to give movies the sort of depth and immersion they were hoping for with the whole 3D gimmick.

>>80884771
You literally aren't.

It literally means that it's one of the best aspects, and the story seems to be lacking.

I think we can all agree that we want the story to be great, not just one thing exclusive over the other.

bitch.

>>80884442
Yeah, it's pretty stuck in my head now. Particularly the "I'll keep on making those new mistakes" part.

To be honest, I like Hips Don't Lie more than I care to admit, so it's not totally odd that I'd be into this one as well.

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>>80883002
Here ya go...

>>80883320
Does this mean that China got the nude naturalist club scene? I hope it see the light of day on the blu ray. I need to see Judys reaction to nick stripping

>>80884773
>>80884748

That fucking sucks. I rarely watch movies so idk much about these things but I wanted to watch this in IMAX if it was better. I'm kinda upset now

>>80883690
too. fucking. cute.

>>80884748
Wait, not Allegiant. Our IMAXes are playing KFP3.

And apparently, that new Juon is showing. Hmm. I just may watch that later.

>>80883002
One of the things that really impressed me was the droplets of water on the doorknob to Manchas' house. That and all the fur tech, of course.