Why were prey considered an underclass when there were many herbivores

They're not an underclass. Unlike SJWs like to push, inequality is not a simple case of one group being more "privileged" than another.

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>>80847911

Because it's accurate to real life

There's plenty of non-whites in positions of power in our world and morons still harp about 'white privilege', so it's accurate enough.

>>80847911
If there's any class system in Zootopia, it's big animals vs. little animals. The mayor is a lion and before Judy joined, the entire police force were big bruiser animals. They had to have a sort of "affirmative action" program to bring smaller animals into public service.

>>80848146
>There's plenty of non-whites in positions of power in our world

Ummmm false.

>>80847911
They weren't considered one.
If anything the analogy works better as a 'privileged white person' trying to frame the 'dindus' by injecting them with drugs, which turns them into rabid killing machines. Then saying "look how dangerous dindus are! they're all like that!"

I mean, she even talks about prey outnumbering the predators 9 to 1 and calls the predators "strong and LOUD." I don't get how people are getting that she's an SJW analogue, when an SJW would be complaining about the predators being outnumbered.

And even this isn't a good enough analogy, because being tiny seems to be the biggest problem here rather than being a predator or prey.

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>>80848432
mods are pretty dumb. any sort of mention of rabbit fucking in a zootopia thread automatically gets it pruned.

despite the majority of zootopia threads have more discussion about the movie itself rather than rabbit fucking.

again, mods are dumb

>>80847911
They weren't. It was considered in the hot button issue but like all of their ideals on prejudice it was wrong. Judy faced just as much prejudice from her herbivore peers as much as Predators. In a city that was claimed to be 90% of Prey animals the elected mayor was a lion.

Every animal had there preconceived notions of what the other animals were as people based on their species which were based mostly on real world animal stereotypes, therefore they didn't represent any human prejudice issue, and therefore addressed it all by showing it in different forms.

Some of you predators are alright.
Stay out of the Rainforest District tomorrow

Bellweather had a stick up her ass about being prey, that doesn't mean prey were an underclass.

>>80847911
Except predators were the underclass (as demonstrated by how tenuous the mayor's position was, so much that he started kidnapping people in his fear)

Whereas small prey were only slightly disadvantaged vis-a-vis big prey, kinda like how jews or Italian Americans aren't as good as legit WASPs

>>80848983
This isn't correct. The mayor was worried about being a predator only because the "savage" citizens were all preds. He correctly surmised that it would cause a rift in society and at that point preds would be persona non grata. Up until that point no one seemed to care if your ancestors used to eat meat except the occasional bigot.

>>80848554
Blame the furries for shitting up threads, not the mods.

i just saw this movie and the amount of continuity errors and inconsistencies were insane

despite that it was fun

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>>80848234
This seems like the most reasonable explanation. Bigger animals naturally command a lot of respect, however that doesn't mean small animals never do (there's Judy, sure, but look at Mr. Big for the most obvious example).

Prey could potentially fuck over the predators pretty badly since they outnumber them by such a wide margin, however they never had a reason to until the night howler incident. The original dystopian version of the story kind of highlighted how if you built up a societal structure in which all these animals had to live, predators would quickly lose most of their natural advantages over prey and could themselves end up being an oppressed minority. Prey breed at a considerably faster rate than predators, while predators breed far less often and are considerably more likely to have birth complications in the wild.

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>>80849156
Fucking why

>>80847911
The weren't. /co/ really needs to stop taking villains words as face value, especially when we never see any of their claims onscreen.

is there a decent rip of this already? it's not gonna be out in my country untill april

>>80849285
april???????
where do you live, the moon?

>>80848234
So then it's literally real life where it's the weak vs. the strong and the sheep are SJWs who misconstrue everything to be about gender/race/religion/any other irrelevant identity issue thing.

Thing is I could see many uses for small animal cops. infiltration and scouting of course, also they have no way of policing smaller animals in areas like Little Rodentai. Even if they found Mr Big and tried to arrest him all he has to do is hide there. If you know they don't get the shit beat out of them by the polar bears.

>>80849156
*pfft*So then Judy*pfft**pfft*and she taken*pfft**pfft**pfft**pfft*thighs moved to the*pfft**pfft**pfft**pfft**pfft*.

>>80849349
Even her own sheep henchmen were pretty big

>>80849349
Nope. The sheep was power hungry. Her entire plot was designed to make her the iron-fisted dictator of the herbivore majority and reduce preds to something like the shock collar horror they had in an early draft. Oppressing preds was important to her, but putting herself in power was more so.

>>80849349
Well its also the fact that all animals deal with stereotypes based on their species. So every animal has to deal with other animals that just know every fox is sly and smart, and elephants always remember shit, and ext.

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>>80849156
Why.

>>80849499
It sounds more like "whitey tryna put the black man down."

>>80849447
I hope they use the shock collar plot for Zootopia 2

Zoo2pia?

>>80849544
twotopia
zootwo
how to train your Dragon zoo
zootopia: the squeakual

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Preds are a menace, even as only 1/10th of the population

pic related was the hero of the film

my oc is a dedication to her work

>>80849670
Zootopia 2: The Sheepquel

>>80849499
You can see it as an allegory for that, but a closer one is "minority oppressed because they are seen as inherently untrustworthy". Gypsies, blacks, gay people, pick one or think up another.

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>Dawn "total raccoon genocide soon" Bellwether
>Dawn "Martial Paw" Bellwether
>Dawn "Gas the preds Fleece-war now" Bellwether
>Dawn "If you're into predation get out of my nation" Bellwether
>Dawn "Those who like vore deserve to be sore" Bellwether
>Dawn "Empty a gat into every large cat" Bellwether
>Dawn "The final solution to canine pollution" Bellwether
>Dawn "Blast a firehose at every Mustelid nose" Bellwether
>Dawn "Cheetah beater" Bellwether
>Dawn "Ten ton terror to tigers" Bellwether
>Dawn "Lion lyncher" Bellwether
>Dawn "Pull the Trigger on Evey Tigger" Bellwether
>Dawn "Go medieval every caracal" Bellwether
>Dawn "Citizen cud" Bellwether
>Dawn "The Woll Wehrmacht Wonder" Bellwether
>Dawn "Martial law for the citizen's claw" Bellwether
>Dawn "throwing the dogs into gulags" Bellwether
>Dawn "Sharpened paws get broken jaws" Bellwether
>Dawn "Shoot a firehose at every feline nose" Bellwether
>Dawn "Send the predatory to the crematory Bellwether
>Dawn "Class; Carnivora crusher" Bellwether
>Dawn "Ten ton tiger terror" Bellwether
>Dawn "Legitimate scare to the polar bear" Bellwether
>Dawn "Gore Every Carnivore" Bellwether
>Dawn "Empty my Luger into every cougar" Bellwether
>Dawn "If it Barks, Throw it to the Sharks" Bellwether
>Dawn "Only good pred is one thats dead" Bellwether

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>>80849735
I NEED PICTURES! PICTURES OF PREDS GOING SAVAGE! THEY ARE A MENACE!

http://strawpoll.me/7111150

I need help choosing

>>80849925
Judy would be a Jedi, and Nick would be a smuggler with latent force abilities.

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>>80849925

>>80849105
Yeh, exactly, because their position as predators in society was obviously very precarious

Just like actual minorities who have to disprove everyday stereotypes about themselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaqmn55w4IA

Informative video on the fur.

>>80847911
Why were there only mammals in this movie?

The Angry Birds trailer made me realize there were no birds in it.

>>80849349
>the sheep are the ess-jay-double u's

nice deflection

>>80850013
Because they wanted to make the city look like it was real and built around the needs of its citizens.

Adding birds would open a whole new can of worms in terms of design needs.

Plus they wanted to focus on the "Predator/Prey" aspect and keep that theme as simple as possible.

>>80850014
>>80850022
>>80850047
I don't get what this is supposed to be.

>>80850013

they had a hard time of adding to the logistics of the world but they hinted that otherc ontinents have reptiles/birds

>>80850019
>deflection
In what way?

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>>80849735
top kek

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>>80850054
>Adding birds would open a whole new can of worms

Carlos, is that you?

>>80849979
>SMUGgler
:^)

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>>80850014
>>80850022
>>80850047
I don't get what's wrong with this

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>>80850094
Anon...

>>80850100
I've never seen any names with umlauts in the Star Wars universe. I would just go with Judy.

>>80849198
eyy i got that reference

>>80849988
Okay, that's just hilarious.

>>80850014
>>80850022
>>80850047
I don't get this, but
>literally shakira's fursona
made me kek

So when they make Zootopia 2 or a spinoff series, what other cute couples do you want them to add?

They weren't underclass exactly but were a minority and had to deal with prejudice from the Prey majority.

But I'm sure there's a lot of prejudice even between the prey species, like how the bigger herbivores looked down on bunnies.

What I liked about Zootopia is that it wasn't an exact translation of human rights issues, it's not something so simple as "prey animals are white people, predators are black people" - which was basically what Blacksad did in that one story (though it was literally black animals verses white animals).

The prejudice issues relate to our own, but they are not an exact reflection of it and something that just exists in the nature of the Zootopia world.

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>mfw bellwheter want to make zootopia like the first concept of zootopia with the shock collars

>>80850094
Just bros being bros
>>80850115
Not gonna lie, the pun flew right over my head as I typed it out.

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>>80849198
Oh man that's fucked up

>>80849156
Christ, get a pop filter.

>>80850156
I don't. One couple is plenty. And its gonna be the main two so any more would just be unnecessary.

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>>80848391
So what's the roster of the ZPD we see so far?

Cape buffalo - Bogo
Cheetah - Clawhauser
Rhino - McHorn
Elephant - Francine
Hippo (back)

Rhino (back)
Rhino (right)
Lion (back)
Lion (right)
Lion (right back)
Tiger (left)
Tiger (back)
Tiger (right)
Tiger (right)
Tiger (right)
Polar bear (back)
Polar bear (right front)
Polar bear (right back)
Wolf (left)
Wolf (left back)
Wolf (right)
Wolf (right)

Rabbit - Judy

Fox - Nick


>from Judy's Acadrmy Days (did any of them get assigned to Downtown ZPD?)

Polar bear (trainer)
Hippo
Rhino (longer horn)
rhino (shorter horn)
Elephant
Bear (climbing)
Wolf
Tiger

>>80849993
I don't know if he was as much worried about his own position as worried about predators' cultural standing in general. It's not that he was selfish or desperate to stay mayor at all costs. He understood what the implications would cause in the populace and needed to stop it before they all jump to conclusions and start fighting each other.

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>>80850162
Bellweather

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>>80850094
>tfw it ain't even signed

>>80849198
What would you do if that sign appeared as a cameo in the next movie? Obviously without the stripper light.

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>>80850162
>bellwheter

>>80848234
Sizesoginism!!!
OUTRAGE!!!!!!

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Any artists in here right now? Can you make a Zootopia-styled version of this guy?

Yes I know no domesticated dogs in the movie.

>>80850208
His main concern was definitely that his reputation was at stake. He didn't want to come forward with the info because he would be ruined as he put it himself.

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>>80850162
FIRST CONCEPT SAFEST CONCEPT

>>80849735
they are all criminals

>>80850207
a pig during the concert at the end

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>>80849285
???

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>>80850261
yeah man here you go

>>80850269
I do wonder when and how long Nick was with Mr. Big.

Also if Mr. Big buried his grandmama in the skunk rug, it must have meant something to him right? Does that mean there is more to the story we aren't seeing yet?

>>80850135
It won't let me take the name Judy because someone else already has the name.
And I've already seen someone with the name "Judyhopps" running around.

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>>80850119
This guy gets it.

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>>80850285
>Not even 3D

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>>80850285
kek

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I really liked this movie except Nick's reaction at the press conference felt forced, which weakened the apology scene for me.

>>80850285
You gonna... sign that?

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>>80850298
nick has a huge story.

Wild times actually existed

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>>80850285
Goddammit. I laughed far harder than I expected to.

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>>80848234
Yeah. There was a picture of Bogo and Lionheart posing together on Bogo's desk, and they both treated their smaller counterparts in pretty similar ways (bogo treating judy like shit, Lionheart doing the smae to bellwether, polarbears fucking with nick). The only deviation from this was Mr. Big, but he seemed like a special case.

>>80849735
>zootopian history x
fukken saved

>>80849784
>>80850162
>Dawn "Soylent green is predators" Bellwether
>Dawn "Nineteen Eightyboar" Bellwether
>Dawn "Furrenheit 451" Bellwether
>Dawn "Gelded Snake" Bellwether
>Dawn "The Final Ewelution" Bellwether
>Dawn "Shoot a panzerfaust up the panther's ass" Bellwether
>Dawn "Backwoods Hunting Simulator 2013" Bellwether

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>>80850131
>>80850226
Legit question, are these two related?

>>80849925
>http://strawpoll.me/7111150
>all these idiots saying she'd be a Jedi knight
Judy succeeded because she pushed herself physically to overcome her barriers, using her smarts and willpower to get her through challenges. She doesn't need the Force and she has nowhere near the self-denial necessary to become a monk of a Jedi or the hatred necessary to be a Sith. She's too energetic and free. She'd be a hotshot pilot and Nick her gunner, the smuggler she took a liking to.

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>>80850285
Kek

>>80850320
Maybe the nam flashback was a bit on the nose, but I thought it seemed good otherwise. He felt betrayed that Judy would say all those things about predators.

And worse than that when he called her on it she just double downed and basically said "Oh you are better than other predators"

>>80850320
it wasn't forced at all

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Well, look like an actually good picture...

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>>80850326
I prefer purple biker-chick Honey Badger.

I want her to have a past fling with Nick. Maybe his first inter-species thing.

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Oh...

>>80850353
>solid and liquid howards
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTHHHHERRR

>>80850340
Just a visual easter egg anon. I'm pretty sure Nick isn't secretly running a themepark in this version of the movie. He presumably wouldn't need to hustle ice pops if he has a whole themepark

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>>80850320
>doing it on purpose after I talked to you in the last thread

Or, if a very subtle troll who noticed that conversation in the last thread, bravo for attention to detail.

>>80850320
I feel that people that say this can't understand his perspective on how much of a problem it was with him.
The one person that he thought could connect with him just blatantly said it's in his Duhnuh and he was born with a "component" to become a raving animal.
It pretty much went against his entire backstory that he explained to her on the tram.

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>>80850397
in his past maybe he did

>>80849925
>that one asshole who put Jedi Consular
You ruined the Jedi Knight vote.

>>80850263
He was probably right, though. If they went public and there was a panic, then they would immediately call for his resignation and they would not be any closer to finding a cure. And sure enough, that's exactly what happened, except that he was arrested instead of being forced to resign. That doesn't mean he was right to break the law and create a secret, illegal detention facility, however he was right that when the information went public there was going to be widespread civil unrest and predators (including himself) would be the targets of it.

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I see people saying the snow leopard reporter's name is Annalise Winters and her pictures are being tagged with this on certain sites.

Is there a fucking source for this?

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>>80850353
The moral of the story is to always sign your lewd pics

>>80850438
Furry art aside i really wanted to see this world from the original script.
I cannot even fathom how liberating it must feel to have those fucking collars off.

>>80850014
>backseat driver
max kek
that'd drive anyone crazy
>two minutes after you've passed an exit
>"You.........were............supposed..........to......get......"
>"-off? Yes yes, thank you for telling me that-"
>"...off..."
>"Look, it's a little late for-"
>"...at...."
>"The exit is two miles behind us!"
>"...that..."
>"I WILL TURN THIS CAR-"
>"....last..."
>"-RIGHT THE FUCK AROUND DO YOU-"
>"...exit...."
>"-HEAR ME YOU-sorry, sorry for yelling, I'm...I'm a bit wound-"
>"....there."
>car slams directly into the barrier

>>80850438
Thats sad as fuck.

There was also a korean comic that was similar. Anyone got it? Preferably with translation?

>>80850390
Dumb tumblrinas always inevitably make their brownskins Arabs. Because they're all privileged white kids who can only draw their own noses. So they don't know how the fuck to make a proper latino/asian nose and end up giving them caucasoid-ish noses.

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>>80850285
Top kek.

>>80849198
I am ze retard. Can someone please explain me the pic reference?

>>80850353
>From FOX, Two Howards were born

>>80850362
She's dedicated to the ZPD the same way a Jedi is dedicated to the Jedi Order. All she thinks about is being a cop and helping people, much the way a Jedi is supposed to do. Despite being a rabbit, she's not looking for love and just wants to protect and serve others selflessly.

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POST MORE WEDDINGS

>>80850439
After seeing her at the rally, at the conference, "make the world a better place", I'm convinced she'd be more of a Consular than a Knight.

>>80850480
if you like fanfics there is a good one called sunlightcity about it

>>80850518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4

>>80850518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4

It's from a dank-ass music video

>>80850518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4

>>80850397
Maybe he did at one point and Mr. Big shut it down as revenge for the skunk rug thing.

>>80850518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4

>>80850536
I don't.

>>80850390
wtf is with those eyes?

>>80850518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4

>>80850518
>I am ze retard. Can someone please explain me the pic reference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4

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>>80850530

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>>80850298
>>80850340
>"I've been makin' 200 bucks a day since I was 12 fluff"
>It turns out all the popcicle and other scam money was actually going towards his dream park afterall

someone should ask byron about this

>>80850326
>>80850389
If we don't get Honey as a sdecharacter in the next movie I'm gonna be really sad.

>>80850394
>Liquid Signature vs Solid Signature

>>80850538
>>80850542
>>80850543
>>80850549
>>80850556
>>80850560
What in the fucking hell?

>>80850367
>He felt betrayed that Judy would say all those things about predators
I didn't really find what she said incriminating. I'm genuinely numb to it.
>Oh you are better than other predators
I still don't see the problem with someone seeing you in good light.

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>>80850480
>>80850551
well at least there is pic related to enjoy, and the artbook

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>>80850579
That's about the average reaction.

>>80850518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4

>>80850443
Lionheart is a good gray character. Doing what he thinks is right even if it isn't lawfully right.

>>80850583
>You aren't like all those other black people
Does that sound like a good compliment to you?

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Draw more Finnick damnit, there's not enough.

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>>80850579
Pretty much, yeah

>>80847911
For the same reasons black people have lower general income, education and imprisonment despite Obama.
In Polish there's saying, "One swallow, spring does not make."

>>80850606
No i mean they all posted it in like 2 minutes, 6 times.

>>80850579
Anons don't just deliver. We FEDEX that shit.

>>80850434
>The one person that he thought could connect with him just blatantly said it's in his Duhnuh and he was born with a "component" to become a raving animal.
Well, is she wrong? Predators did have to hunt to live, their DNA would be naturally selected for traits that would make them a good hunter, like aggression.

>>80850631
No homo

>>80850612
>>80850560
>>80850556
>>80850553
>>80850551
>>80850549
>>80850543
>>80850542
>>80850538
anon delivers aggressively

>>80850637
In the movie it's stated that 90% of Zootopia is made of prey species. If the balance of power is so heavily weighted in favor of predators in positions of power despite being a small minority then maybe the prey just suck.

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>>80850631
I want to pet him

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I made this for you

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>>80850480
>>80850588
Disney should publish a graphic novel based on the unused, darker script. Do the art in a style that resembles the concept art except obviously with panels and speech balloons. Fanboys like us would love it, and more casual Disney fans I'm sure would at least be able to appreciate seeing how different movies sometimes are during their conceptual stage.

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>>80850688

>>80850615
If in the context of the conversation "those black" meant criminals, or any other adjective that was undesirable, yes I would.

>>80850707
Well it might just confuse kids, which Disney wouldn't want.

But I know I want it.

The graphic novel, not confusing kids

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>>80850707
Are the concepts available in HD anywhere?

I know they're up on Lechner's website, but disappointingly low res.

http://www.matthiaslechner.com/zootopia.html

>>80850651
That's far and away different from going berserk, though.

Real-world carnivores are actually LESS likely to go berserk than herbivores are, because carnivores out hunting can always run away and look for food elsewhere if they run into something too tough.

Compare to herd animals, which will work themselves up into a frenzy to protect their young and territory.

I'd watch it twice

>>80850707
Best case scenario, they use it as an extension to the Zootopia brand, supposing it becomes a huge hit like Frozen.
Problem is, it would be conflicting to have the brand have a light hearted tone, and contrastly a much darker tone for nearly the same exact IP. It goes against Disney's family outlook.

>>80850678
Biologically, prey are more submissive and passive, so it makes sense if they just want shit jobs that go nowhere while all the aggressive predators are working hard to climb those corporate ladders and grab that brass ring. Prey just want free shit

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>>80850556
>>80850560
>>80850549
>>80850543
>>80850542
>>80850538
I still don't understand if the cats went there with the intention to pick a fight or kill people, or why the cobras suddenly went for murder. Shit got really real real quick.

>>80850787
I seen't it three times git gud

>>80850802
I suppose they could release it under one of their less kid targetting labels. Since Disney owns marvel and all that.

It would be sort of like how Nightmare Before Christmas wasn't released under Disney but Touchstone Pictures which Disney owns.

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>>80850707
want

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>>80850636
>Schalke

>>80850707
I'd like to do this except it would be a lot of work for no money because of copyright issues

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>>80850390

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>>80850613
Yeah I like that about him too. Earlier in the movie they make it look like he's lazy and that's the reason he dumps so much of his duties on Bellwether, but later you find out that the real reason is that his time is being preoccupied by the night howler problem.

When Judy says "you only cared about saving your career," we realize what a naive thing that was for her to say when we see how she handles the press. She really didn't understand the implications of going public with the information, and as such she probably misjudged Lionheart's motivations for doing what he did, even if legally speaking it was pretty bad.

At any rate Lionheart seems to be kept in a much lower security facility than Bellwether, because the nature of his crime was a lot less severe, particularly considering the circumstances. With a good lawyer he'll probably be out in a year or less, and the people he's sharing cells with are probably other petty and non-dangerous offenders.

Bellwether on the other hand is doing hard time in an orange jumpsuit for bioterrorism. To survive she's gonna end up having to make someone her bitch.

>>80850842
4 times here.
Though that'll almost certainly be it for me unless like a friend asks me to go

>>80850830
It was instinct. The dogs and the cats hated each other, and this started a fight, which caused the others to go savage.

>>80850802
No, best case scenario involves it becoming a part of the sequel.

Maybe Reptilopia uses the same concept. I could see crocodiles and alligators being forced to wear them and getting called "scalies" by their amphibian neighbors.

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>>80850890
like a ferrari

>>80850890
>no signature
C'mon man, step up your game.

>>80850651
You see, you're looking at this as a human observing an animal.
The characters, animals, in this film HAVE evolved, they have a history and have built a relationship of coexistance, BOTH Pred and Prey. Saying that ONLY preds CAN go savage is like saying only Preys can be un-evolved. Then to rub alt in the wound, she out right says "It's not like a bunny could go savage", as if her species is better evolved than Nicks.

>>80850897
>"I'm going out" was refering to him going to the facility

It just hit me. Dunno why I didn't see that. I just assumed he was being lazy and shirking duty

Should I make Judy a Twi'lek, Human, or Cathar?

Also, I'm going with Jedi Knight because it beat Trooper 16/9

>>80850390
>can't even get the height differences right
Judy is really fucking tiny compared to Nick. Like, chest or collarbone high.

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>>80850636
>Nick just starts shouting
>DENNISBEARCUM
>DENNISBEARCUM
>DENNISBEARCUM
>AAAAAAOOOOOOOHHHHH
>FRANKEBOOSHBELTIBAL

>>80850707
>>80850860
I am all for this

Anybody have pics of Ferrari Nick?

>>80850434
Well, Nick did turn emotionally savage in his reaction to Judy's press conference. He lost his cool, you'd think he could handle himself better.

>>80850926
I mean I guess they could apply the concept to one of the other continents and possibly have one of them escape to Zootopia.


WOuldn't be quite the same though. Half the appeal I think is we all love Nick now so we wanna see him overcome this problem he originally faced.

>>80850269
Nonsense. A cape buffalo or elephant is more than a match for a lion. Do you want to collar them too? Better get anything big enough to step on a mouse, while you're at it. Collars for everyone!

EVERYONE is potentially dangerous. Even a tiny otter or deer could drive a car into someone. Society works because the number of people willing to do horrible things (and most likely get caught and punished) is small.

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Just got off work. Did anyone record the Youtube chat or can give a rundown?

>>80850931
His name is ":)"

>Judy's parents call her Jude the Dude

Seems like that could lead to bullying at school.

>>80850770
Carnivores don't spook easily, either. They might be cautious about unfamiliar creatures but you're not going to get charged and trampled by one. And despite not being carnivores, many of them still have sharp teeth that can leave a pretty nasty bite.

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>>80850719

>>80850678
We know they don't suck; Bogo is the chief of police and good at his job. We also know that predators can suck because we get to see Clawhauser mess up.

>>80850925
Then why the fuck did they sit next to the dogs instead of taking a table anywhere else? Fucking cat thugs ruining a good strip club.

>>80850976
>Emotionally savage
He was pretty collected all things considered. He barely raised his voice at all while telling off Judy, the most emotional he got was also just an act to see if Judy would go for the spray, which she did. Right after that hes just glum.

>>80850976
Are you trolling or something?

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>>80851014

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here a sheep

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>>80850990
ignore this predator post

>>80850990
But elephants don't need to kill other animals for food. Lions, as carnivores, do.

Its not so much how dangerous they are, but what type of sustenance they need. Sure theres bugs and fish, but the fact that predators ever hunted other animals is whats held against them.

>>80851015
Small number statistics. If 90% can lose consistently, if not totally, to 10% then something's wrong.

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>>80851036

>>80850995
Go to the Disney facebook page. Its like the first thing, no account needed

>>80850990
A shock collar isn't going to help against a car, and using it will probably make the driver even more erratic and dangerous. It only works on an animal whose physical body is sufficiently dangerous.

ZAP THE PREDS
RACE WAR NOW

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>>80851074

>>80851023
Dunno 'bout you senpai ,but if someone swung at me I'd back off and reach for my piece too.

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>>80851074
>filename

>by nik

Nick wilde confirmed artist

>>80851109
>SOMEONE
>SOME. ONE.

>>80851103
He ain't cute.

He's fucking adorable.

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>>80850759
It wouldn't be a problem as long as they give it a very distinct title, like "Zootopia Noir" and it has a more muted, dystopian look to it than the movie.

Recently Dark Horse did an adaptation of an early draft of Star Wars and as far as I know it sold well. Fans really get a kick out of alternate universe stuff.

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>>80850960
twi'lek because rabbit ears

>>80850943
there are so many little details with the plot in this movie it's fantastic
>doug almost runs over nick "watch where you're going FOX"
>sheep watching duke steal the night howlers outside the flower shop
>sheep at the press conference is the first to suggest predators re more dangerous
>bellwether has a "call doug" sticky note on her file cabinet

>>80850770
>>80851009
I like how they ran with the idea that evolved prey tend to think more similarly and get caught up with Red Scare-like public witch hunts more than predators do. That whole "herd mentality" is still there. In essence, Judy spooked all the prey in the city and started a stampede.

>>80851028
Are you upset someone isn't playing by the rules of your safespace?

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So how do you guys think Nick would take to fatherhood?
>>80851109
He hardly swung at her, he made a scary face at most. And honestly she should have had nothing to fear. She knew he was a good guy and they were in the middle of a police station. Her reaching for her spray was just her being irrational

>>80851065
Do prey consistent lose elections?

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>>80851100
>>80851092
>>80851062
idk man I mean most of the predators I meet are pretty cool

>>80851041
cute, saved

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>>80851134
Alright i'll feed ya troll.
>Giving someone a piece of your mind is losing your cool
Would you rather he shut his mouth like a bitch?

>>80851129
Well hell, they gotta do this now.

I'm not gonna get my hopes up too high, but maybe just a little higher.

>>80851117
>Paws poster.

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>>80851172

>>80851157
With the gif cutting off here it looks like he's making Nick promise to kiss him.

Nick was devastated with the conference, he gave out his story to Judy in confidence, he broke his cardinal rule of not letting people that they get to him, and he did it to help Judy. Judy being so callous felt like a knife to his back if at least it appears that Judy doesn't care about him.

>>80850802
They shouldn't have two parallel universes running. That would cause brand confusion and for Disney, brand is everything. If they did the darker Zootopia as a one-shot graphic novel though, I think Disney would be fine with it. It's not like it's got extreme violence or anything, it's just got very dark and depressing themes which Disney is usually okay with, at least on smaller projects.

>>80851149
>Irrational

Just like seeing Mr. Manchas in a muzzle reminded him of the scouts putting him in a muzzle, Nick's specific threatening pose reminded her of Gideon Gray scratching her nose when she was 9.

Just like he told her to.

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>>80851149
Woops, wrong image

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>>80851197
ship confirmed

>>80851149
Judy could tell Nick was frustrated and upset with her, she was on edge because of it. When you're running off of adrenaline and cortisol, you're not going to make the same decisions as if you were relaxed.

>>80850162
I'm sure furries already masturbate in the theaters but the floor would be ankle-deep in semen if this movie had shock collars.

>>80851019
Because they wanted to sit close to the stripper, duh.

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>>80851157
>>80851172
I'd give him a warm kiss.

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>>80851218

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Do you think Byron goes to bed every night thinking about Judy?

>>80851226
I think the biggest thing is that she had literally nothing to come back with when Nick asked if she was scared of him. She couldn't think of a single thing to say.

Why does Judy's body armor leave her belly exposed?

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>>80851236

>>80851205
The original script seems to be an absolute one shot. It left very little for Zootopia to grow, It was about Nick and preds liberation of collars, an obviously relic of fear of predators from preys Nick gains his true freedom in the end.. Where as it stands now to have Nick/Judy police action movie adventures.

>>80851181
I'd rather he not walk out like a bitch, and stay to work the problem out. He's a savvy con-man, no? Where did his social prowess go? Oh right, out the window so the movie could force a conflict to move the plot along.

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>>80851262

>>80851261
Have you ever seen protective vests in real life?

>>80851262
>>80851236
Just bros being bros
>>80851268
Nothing wrong with one shots.

>>80850888
Yeah that's the thing about fan comics-- it's really hard to keep going on them if you're not getting anything in return. If someone was paying off my student loans to draw a 100 page Zootopia comic I'd totally do it, but self-gratification can only get one so far.

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>>80851235
I feel like Jeb would be a wombat in Zootopia

>>80851226
What so just because he's a predator he's going to attack her?
Cannot you really not fathom Nick's problem from the situation?

>>80851261
Her mobility is her greatest strength. Take that away and she is a furred paperweight.

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>>80851268
the old zootopia seemed to have more 'universe information "

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>On the stream they said that they pictured Nick's mom being a single mother

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>>80851280

>>80848497
b-but 1 out 43 presidents has been black

>>80851324
>medical clinic
Being an anesthesiologist in Zootopia must be a living hell.

>>80851293
Not saying there is, i would fucking love a one-shot of Savage City.

>>80851324
Well old zootopia was more than just a city like new zootopia was. When a city is "just" a city, you don't necessarily have to go that deep into it.

But when its basically an apartheid, that requires more world building.

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>>80851344

>>80848497
I actually can't tell if you're serious or just perfectly imitating a crazy SJW for laughs.

Pretty funny actually.

>>80851342
>Nick's hawaiian shirt is the same color and pattern as the walls of his mom's house

>>80851342
I wonder if his dad was never present in Nick's life, if he left early, or if he left after hearing what a fucking degenerate his son was when he couldn't handle a little roughhousing.

>>80851342
No wonder he's all fucked up.

>>80851319
>What so just because he's a predator he's going to attack her?
You're pretty committed to thinking the worst of Judy.
Judy's never been confronted by Nick in this manner before, she's confused and nervous. Have you never been in a fight, or on the edge of one? Do you ever leave your room?

>>80847911
>Literally no primates
This movie triggered me for removing mother's earth greatest mammalian order in all history.

They removed us because they think simians are superior to the non primate garbage mammals and would rule the entire society while segregating themselves from the stupid dumb mammals that werent primates.

>>80848497
but we was kings of africa and shit

>>80851426
Well it sounds like the dad was out of the picture before Nick tried to join the scouts.

Who knows whether they divorced, he left, or died.

From the stream, sounds like their headcanon is one of the former two options, so Nick's dad may still be alive.

But thats just possibilities, not fact

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>>80851402
Oh fuck.

>>80851259
She was shell shocked and taken by surprise. The fact that Nick even asked that put Judy on the spot, and made her realize that Nick thought of her as a bigot.

>>80851440
I fought my best friends all the fucking time.
What is with your irrational white knighting of Judy? She was blatantly in the wrong, at least in her mindset of predators, in this situation yet your fully intent on defending her.

The whole narrative just wasn't thought out very well. The consistencies are so laughably absurd it always brings a smile to my face when I try to think through it. They clearly wanted the movie to have a very positive message, but it can be interpreted as supporting very negative ones.

The sheep as one small group trying to start a distracting species war between predators and prey in order to grab power could be interpreted as rather anti-semitic.

>>80851377
You know, if you had told me I would want to cuddle all night long with an animated character I would have laughed at you.

>>80851426
I wonder if they will roll with the single mom thing and have Nick encounter his dad in the sequel.

>>80850362

Its almost like Star Wars is a lazy moral setting where you're either an insufferable ascetic or a sociopath. Or both.

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>>80850538
>>80850542
>>80850543
>>80850549
>>80850556
>>80850612
>mfw I was a fan of Caravan Palace for years before Lone Digger came out
>mfw their other music videos are delightful shorts about people dancing and having fun
>sometimes with friendly retro-futuristic robots
>mfw watching that video the first time
Song is still dope though, I love electroswing.

>>80851402
THE FUCKING DETAILS NEVER END.

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>>80851132
The only option for a "gray" skin tone is on the cat people race and Judy is not a cat.

Did I do good? Be a human? Stay Twi'lek?

what if Nick's dad WASN'T a fox?

>>80851483
Which she kinda was. She shouldn't have believed Nick was actually going to attack her

>>80850976
>Well, Nick did turn emotionally savage in his reaction to Judy's press conference. He lost his cool, you'd think he could handle himself better.

That's a load of BS. Nick was acting like a person who had just been deeply hurt by someone who they thought was their friend. Nick thought Judy trusted him but then she showed that she was still very biased against predators. He scared her by reminding her of Gideon, which from his perspective confirmed his suspicion that she didn't fully trust him. It was a bad situation all around but it kind of started with Judy mishandling the press. Nick's advice to her was basically to give out as little actual information as possible, and then she went and told the press everything, plus a few choice lines of her own about how "predators used to be savages that killed to survive, and they seem to be reverting to their old ways."

>>80848497
t. Alberto Barbosa

>>80851117
this drawing is unreal.

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>>80851491

>>80851426
>he couldn't handle a little roughhousing.

Those kids basically did the equivalent of throwing chains on a black kid and telling him they'd never trust a nigger

>>80850976
Nick didn't lose his cool. He was disgusted and mad as hell, but still kept his head enough to mock Judy's prejudices by taunting her into freaking out, rather than actually attacking her.

>>80851358
That clinic is the secret entrance to Nick's amusement park

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>>80851516
>>80851402
Wouldn't this just indicate that they reused assets?

>>80851545
how can anyone hate him with a face like that?

>>80851572
Considering its a high budget animation, its presumably more than just laziness. They put so much effort into the movie, they wouldn't just reuse textures JUSt to save time.

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>>80851580

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/r/ing the drawing where Nick and Finnick meet when Nick is a kid and they're the same size, and then it shows them as adults

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>>80851444
>Literally "but muh opposable thumb"
>Literally "but muh tools'
>Literally "we wuz bands and shit"
>Literally "other mammals don't got no culture"
Pathetic.
Why don't you just post about reptilian or fish superiority while you're at it desu senpai.

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>>80851545
The underrated cute character of the movie right here.

>>80851491
It wouldn't be surprising, Zootopia is about Judy, Zootopia 2 should be about Nick (since he was supposed to be main character in the first movie)

>>80850976

Are you autistic? Not in the meme way, but the fact you can so totally miss basic emotional expression is a symptom.

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>>80851619

>>80851620
>Fish
>Superior
They are soulless Godless creatures anon

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>>80851580
You can't really hate him. He's the best male.

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>>80851553
>SHUT UP, THEY'RE TRYING TO BE INTIMATE!

>>80851643
I'm a little afraid they won't allow such a perspective change. At most I feel they will just elevate Nick to equal protag status with Judy.

But I would like Nick to have the spotlight for the sequel. Also I could see them doing it as sort of an apology to Jason Bateman for kicking him out of the lead in the middle of voicework

What do the carnivores eat?

>>80851620
Im not even talking about us humans I mean the rest of the primate order, the apes would control everything since they are the ones right behind us humans then you have the monkeys then you have the lemurs and then you have the shitty non primate mammals.

>>80851308
Of all the different news anchors for the various countries I've seen, I think US got the best.

>>80851657
That's my point.
If we're going to post about mammals who never happened being superior, we might as well post other nonsense like fish being capable of feeling pain, or crustaceans feeling anything other than hate.

>>80851688
Fish, they aren't even sentient. It was mentioned in the interview.

>>80851697
i wonder how often nick gets his tail dirty

>>80851687
>Jason Bateman for kicking him out of the lead in the middle of voicework

waiiiiit what

>>80851531
>Which she kinda was
How so? Yea, I know you're going to reference the speech, but what specifically indicates she bigoted?
>She shouldn't have believed Nick was actually going to attack her
While I would agree she shouldn't have, this wasn't an ordinary circumstance. If someone shows they're upset with you, then motions aggressively, while you're also on edge, you're going to react defensively. To think that going for your greatest advantage to protect yourself proves you're bigoted is pretty far reaching.

>>80851521
G-Guys?

>>80851697
I actually forgot that was where he got his fake badge

Kind of takes away from the press conference now

>>80851620
Reptiles are too different to live around the furry scum, we reptiles were the very first land vertebrates, millions of years ago this planet was ours but now the mammals have made these weird soft walking apes that make magic stuff that we cant compete with, but know this once the humans are gone WE WILL RULE ONCE AGAIN MAMMALIAN SLIME SYNAPSID TRAITOR.

>>80851728
there don't even use shoes, streets in zootopia are clean

>>80851731
They changed the viewpoint character from Nick to Judy during the rewrite, remember?

>>80851731
Nick was the main character in the original draft. Animation and voice work had already begun by the time they rewrote it to the version we got which made Judy the main character with Nick as supporting lead.

So there is voice work out there for the version of the movie we didn't get. I can only hope some of it will be on the blu ray

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>no one will ever draw that scene where Nick says "what, no goodbye kiss for daddy?" except Finnick actually kisses him

>>80851728
...is this a euphemism?

>>80851761
Not at all. He wore it for over a day at that point, so it obviously meant something to him.

>>80851774
yea I know, now that I read the sentence twice I understand

I though they kicked out a voice actor

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>>80851696
Primates don't exist in the Zootopia universe, at least not in the city Zootopia, because Byron in his wisdom didn't want the audience to look at a monkey and think "hey, that's the most evolved/closest to humans animal, that must be the smartest/superior one, and/or the one I can most relate to", exactly what you're doing now.

Also, even if they did exist, they wouldn't be superior. Primates thrived largely because of their unique social tendencies and their ability to use tools.
In Zootopia, both of those are common in every mammal. Primates have no advantage other than being good at climbing trees or whatever other shit side advantage that means nothing in a city. Primates are the shittest tier mammal in Zootopia prove me wrong familia fun fact you fucking can't they are the shittest tier can't even cuddle with them

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>>80851778
>I can only hope some of it will be on the blu ray
THIS

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>>80851342
I wonder if they didn't show her face because they wanted to deter the flood of porn she would have inspired. The fan artists would be all over a single fox MILF, except that no-one even knows what her face looks like. All art of her is going to be inconsistent because we can't see her face, and as a result there's not going to be much art at all.

>>80851847
Too cute to ignore

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>>80851770
>quibbling over the minuscule surface
you fled the oceans because you couldn't hack it with the big boys

>>80851746
Lets see. That I remember
>Taking the fox spray with her to work (It wasn't even a subconscious decision, she left and then came back for it)
>Suspected Nick of being up to something the moment she saw him
>"You're an articulate fella"
>The whole press conference
>Nearly pulling the fox spray on Nick

Probably more stuff than that.

Face it. Judy was kinda racist towards foxes. That doesn't make her a bad person automatically, even ignoring the fact that she does her best to get over it and make amends with Nick. But she was racist.

>>80851553
You'd think that after saving Zootopia, she'd be able to rent a better place

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>>80851491
What if Nick's dad is a secret agent?

>>80851873
>No soul
Your opinion doesn't matter fish-kun

>>80851826
We primate are the smartest of the mammals even our dumbest lemurs are brighter than a fucking oxen. Our chimps and gorillas are nearly as smart as mentally retarded humans. Yet you think they wouldnt rule over these idiots, they have better dextrous limbs in the first place. It is destiny for us primates to control this world, when we humans leave, another primate will takeover until this rock gets roasted in 5 billion years.

>>80851830
I wonder if theres a more hardass looking 3d model of Judy out there.

>>80851873
>Not even a fish
>Literally a reptile