What exactly is this about, what is its appeal and is it worth

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>>78378873
>Hey /co/, let's have a thinly veiled Homestuck thread

Ok, I'll bite

>>78378873
Some weird convoluted story thats great to get into and explore storytelling in a new format that hasnt really been overdone.

Fanbase is toxic though. Stay away.

>>78378873
this video should tell you all you need to know
https://youtu.be/yyFXNMVbO5Q

>>78378873
4 kids get sucked into a MMO, with multiversal stakes.

It's good, but stay away from the community and don't talk about it with anyone.

>>78378935
No, I really have no idea what it is. I do know that it's long an convoluted as hell so I wonder if it's worth bothering with.

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>>78379000
Good trips, but you can't fool me

>>78378873
It's an RPG/Point-and-click Adventure Game parody that constantly abuses its medium as a webcomic, for better or for worse. The comic itself is fun and entertaining, but the fanbase is tremendously corrosive and should be avoided at all costs. Opinions may vary on the pacing and characterization during some of the parts, but ultimately I don't regret reading it.

If you've got some time give it a shot, but keep in mind it starts very slow and picks up from there. It might be better to read Problem Sleuth (which is also good) first as a litmus test to see whether you can stand Hussie's brand of humour.

I'm on chapter 5 so far and I think im dropping it because so much boring dialogue

>>78379021
>It might be better to read Problem Sleuth

/thread

>>78379043
act 5 would be the proper term

>>78378873
Non-Homestuck-fan here.

I went through this but I couldn't just get myself through because HS has terrible pacing and really needed better editing; someone suggested a voice-acted version of it that's more easily digested (because the comic itself is painfully slow), it's a pretty competent VA, and I recommend it if you're having the same issue

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuyQrNfs3ac2Qgr0zBcFWnHoHq-U6r1T0

I dropped it in act 3 I think because in the end it's too dispersive and it goes nowhere. It's a fucking mess of a comic and it's objectively not very good, but YES it's worth going through and getting a taste of because it's bizarre and has a pretty unique mood.

The story is fundamentally about a bunch of kids who get stuck into a weird dimension you access to from a virtual reality game.

What ever you do don't read Act 6. Ever.

>>78378873
Homestuck is about an reality-altering video game, and why it's a bad idea to sequence break a reality-altering video game.

>>78379167
Thanks, I might actually watch this version.

>>78379357
The soundtrack is great too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQX0TWA_x6Q

>>78378873
its alright, but you will notice the quality drop

>>78379370
Oh, I've heard of it. Didn't the Undertale guy work on it?

>>78379379
No idea, I haven't played UT!

Homestuck is a strange beast. It has sparks of great quality and I wonder how it would have been if it had higher production value.

>>78379379
Yep, it's how he got so many shills--I mean "fans" in the first place.

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Read Problem Sleuth instead and if you enjoy it, give Homestuck a spin.

>>78379379
yes Toby Radiation Fox did work on a lot of the Homestuck music and is general bros with Hussie.
Think he was working on the Homestuck video game with Hussie too

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>yfw homestuck is dead for real this time

>>78379379
Yeah, Radiation is actually the heart and soul of the music team. It's he that organizes the albums, contacts the other members, and stuff. He also makes some of the best Homestuck music on the albums, and Megalovania was remixed from the Earthbound Halloween Hack for Homestuck first.

>>78379430
what made Homestuck get so big as it did was his constant updating, without that the fanbase just dwindled as everyone else moved on to other fandoms
now he's stuck making his game because The Odd Gentlemen swindled him, and now a man without much experience making video games had to form a makeshift team of other people who've probably never made games themselves just so he doesn't have to refund 2 million dollars he already lost

i dreamed that i was talking to myself about why i can't make friends in any community and that andrew hussie overheard and told me he thought i seemed like a cool guy and offered to be my friend.

it didn't even look like hussie and i don't even read homestuck but that's who they said they were.

ha ha ha.

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You gonna buy my game, right?

>>78378873
It's worth in the sense that, if it's your thing, you will really enjoy the first half because it's really awesome.
The second half is not that great but still readable. Still, the comic is maybe a bit too long so I don't know if it's worth it or not. It depends on you.

I'd say try it.

>>78378873
Read Acts 1-4.
Stop when you get to the trolls.

It's an absolutely incredible idea for a webcomic and a really cool setting ruined by everything the plot purposefully trying to not make any sense and the corrosive fanbase that somehow spread to Undertale, seriously I don't really know how they jumped to that but it's like the exact same people. Game's not even that good, what gives?

>>78380378
>It's an absolutely incredible idea for a webcomic and a really cool setting
Is there even anything similar to the setting in Homestuck?

>>78380403
Hard to say, honestly. What defines Homestuck's setting? "Real life is like a video game?"

If that's the case all I can think of is Scott Pilgrim and Earthbound sort of, everything that even remotely has this kind of setting seems to cite EB as a major influence, so it did something right.

>>78380459
More like the surreal stuff. China Mieville? Discworld?

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Reminder that BREATH has nothing to do with FREEDOM.

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>>78380403
>21st century america
>a variety of wacky fantasy lands
>far-future post-human earth
>mysterious city
>alien planet
>more wacky fantasy lands
>incomprehendable void
>a patchwork memory-scape
>the end of time
>apocalypse-earth
>dying earth

All been done before sorry. Alternia and The Medium are probably the most original though.

>>78380711
Less broadly painted though?

>that guy from last thread who turned the ghost writer conspiracy into roleplay form

>John is the main writer
>hires Karkat and Vriska around Act 5
>John takes a break from Homestuck after Cascade
>Act 6 happens
>John even comes back to retcon everything, creates [s] GAME OVER, punishes Karkat by shipping his oc with Dave and destroying his 300 page drama relationship epic with Terezi, plans on screwing over Vriska with the biggest fuck you ever and then actually develops Karkat's shitty girlfriend (Terezi) into an actual character, has big plans for Rose and Kanaya getting some development

HOLY SHIT

>>78380378
Well, the maker of Undertale made music for Homestuck. It's obvious why there's some overlap in the fanbase.

>>78381600
Some overlap is to be expected but jesus christ it's like the entire fanbase moved and became 20x worse in the process.

>>78381626
What is it that makes the HS/UT fanbase so bad? Is it just that they derail threads or what?

>>78379430
He just released a news post a couple weeks ago saying he's still working on the game and comic and will have more to show in a couple more weeks.

We only have a couple weeks until we get maybe a calendar schedule of horses. We're almost there!

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>>78380520
Couldn't we have made it just one thread without this?

Is Hussie an autism?

>>78381704
No he's a genius.

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>>78381650
They're so diehard passionate about the game/comic that they turn people off from it. Like, they just never stop praising everything about it, saying how it's the BEST THING EVER etc. while endless spewing injokes or references about it that most people just get sick to their stomach when it's brought up because of how much people won't shut the hell up about it. This is the main complaint people have about the UT/HS fanbase, but it applies to a lot of other ones too. They're just the worst with it.

It's especially annoying for me since people are now trashing Earthbound since it heavily inspired Undertale. The EB fanbase is bad but they're not HS/UT bad.

>>78381734
Oh... they're young and passionate? That's not so bad, I thought it was more on the lines of harassment and SJW stuff

>>78381734
>people are now trashing Earthbound
People have been doing that for ages. It's good and some people don't 'get' it and that upsets them - plus imageboards are an ideal place to be contrarian.

It isnt Problem Sleuth which was way better and had superior pacing. Read Problem Sleuth instead

I've never been able to get passed part 1 because of the wordy, long-winded text adventure speak.

>>78378873

> Appeal

At least in the beginning, it has some pretty curious, comfy feels, also it's fun trying to put together elements of the plot and hints and speculating and shit

Also, at this point, it's fascinating for the sheer amount of effort that has gone into it

>>78381790
Young? No. They're usually fat older people who latch onto anything even remotely unique, but there's a fair amount of teenagers and people in their early 20s freaking out about the game/comic too.

That's not to say both don't have their very active SJW fanbase, but really "harrasment" sums up why generally people hate these series so much. They're harrassed endessly by people until they cave in and check it out, but then they're bitter about it even if they do like it. I hated Undertale for months because people wouldn't shut the fuck up about me "totally adoring/loving this game if you played it it's the best game ever" and when it finally died down I checked it out a little bit and I thought it was a cool game with meh execution. My only guess to how the game got so popular is by Homestuck fans screeching about it until everyone got sick of hearing about it.

>>78381816
Yeah but there's more of an organized vocal minority about it now and Undertale seems to keep popping up in anything Earthbound related which makes Undertale haters pop up and then they add Earthbound to their list of shit to hate, which bums me out since it's a pretty good game that got unfortunately grouped in with this above-average FOTM.

>>78381862
I guess I'm just not annoyed by that specific behavior then, even though it's a little annoying when threads get derailed 'cause someone posted UT or SU stuff and everyone starts arguing

>>78381913
Arguements only happen because people who are sick of hearing about the series break out. If people weren't obnoxious about the series and let the love for it slowly grow from people who are genuinely interested in it, it wouldn't be so hated. That's usually how most loved things come to be.

There's really no way to predict what's gonna be hit by the fad light next. It's kind of a scary thought.

I started following HS when I still used dA to post my work.
Since it started real, reaally slow I didn't get the hang of it quickly and dropped it.
Can't believe it is that popular now though
What gives? Is it the fanart?

>>78378873
I read the first few pages of it yesterday, and then quit

>>78382026
>What gives? Is it the fanart?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM5pYTAh8Rs
the frantic update speed helps too

>>78382134
>frantic update speed
Yeah, you mean like back in 2012?

>>78382262
i mean way earlier than that my man

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>>78382026
anime zodiac aliens

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Don't mind me, I'm just being the character who is saving Homestuck.

>>78382339
>saving
>ships Davekat
LOL

I stopped reading after Hussie added a whole new set of trolls.

>>78382291
Wow, wait a second. You're right. I meant that as a jab at how 2012 was the last year before hiatuses, but I got it wrong. That was 2011. Fucking hell his comic is old. I'm old. Kill me.

>>78382379
That's a shame because those new trolls were pretty much a one-off joke. Only 2 of them stuck around for longer than that flash.

Then again, it's also not a shame because the comic was kind of declining by that point already.

>>78382542
there's a rumour the dancestors will get more screentime in the finale, i hope that's not true

>>78382678
I could see that technically being true because it's extremely likely that they will appear in Meenah's army. /Maybe/ some speaking part, but they'd be pretty brief.

Anything more than that is very unlikely.

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>>78381626
That always happens. They always come back to Homestuck though, everything else is a fad. Remember OFF?

>>78383017
OFF I never actually noticed, but it seems to suffer from the same fanbase.

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>>78383075
It did. It's always the same. Homestuck goes on hiatus, all the people jump ship to something new and hot, homestuck comes back and they jump back on

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>>78380191
BUY HIS GAME

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>>78383017
OFF was a great game that didn't deserve what happened to it.

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>>78383318
>that didn't deserve what happened to it.
Neither did Homestuck

>>78383253
GIMME $500 AND I'LL CONSIDER IT

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>>78383390
In the beginning, no, I would agree. Act 1-4 were good fun. When Hussie starting pandering to the wants of the rabid side of his fanbase however, he had it coming.

>>78383105
>dangan ronpa
>off
>steven universe
>undertale
only the last two seem to have retained a steady fanbase after the initial surge of homestucks, but yeah, they always come crawling back

>>78383105
>that one bitch who wears your symbol
How can Karkat stop suffering? How can he make her pay?

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>>78383451
Act 5 was a cool actiony deal, and Cascade was great.


I wish the trolls fucked off after that though.

It seemed we were back to kid shenanigans with the Alphas, but nah; Let's overpower everybody again and keep these faggot-ass trolls alive so we can ship some more in faggot limbo.

>>78383541
That's cause SU and Undertale have fans outside of tumblr.
But it remains to be seen with Undertale at any rate. If it goes away when Homestuck comes back then it's the same as Off and DR

>>78383105
holy moly, dat Jane "semen demon" expression!

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>>78383708

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>>78383725
>>78383105
>>78383708
>>>/trash/

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A long time ago, somebody made a Vriska version of this image, anyone happen to have it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE

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You deserve an honest reply OP.

Homestuck is a webcomic about kids entering a video game world. That's it in a nutshell. It also uses the text adventure format from old computer games as the medium to tell the story. Acts 1-4 were a solid story arc. Then, like the TV show LOST, Act 5 happens and a whole slew of new characters are introduced, making the story very convoluted.

The author then panders to the fandom too much, putting more emphasis on the characters than moving the plot along. His priorities change completely, as he launches a kickstarter to make a game based on the comic. Instead of finishing the comic, he takes a year+ hiatus to work on this game.

As many people have mentioned, the fandom is toxic. The good news is that, MOST of the fandom grew up enough to realize there comic was a sham and moved on. The people who defend it vehemently are the VOCAL MINORITY. And I can't fault them, reading Homestuck takes hours and patience due to walls of texts. For them to quit at this point is a killer.

The webcomic's appeal was based around the fact it was a FIRST comic for a tween generation. All those 11-13 year old kids were all over deviant art, discovering fan made Homestuck art. The fanart is what hooked them into the comic, and reading into it with a very active fandom to offer comedic commentary, made it bearable and fun. Liking Homestuck and RPing just a little guaranteed you a social group online and possibly offline. That's why the fandom is so toxic, it has a cult mentality.

Homestuck is not worth getting into. The author deviated far off the plot he established long ago. To invest time and energy into ready for the disappointment awaiting you is not worth the effort. Better off reading Alan Moore's Watchmen or Swamp Thing.

Add in the small sexual undertones that are in the comic, and a full generation of budding teens took advantage of it for RP.

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>>78383105
>that filename

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>>78383927

>>78383725
>>78383105
Honestly I find art like this more offensive than disgusting fetish shit. How do people unironically like this?

Like wow. Big unrealistic boobs! It's like it appeals to 15 year olds.

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>>78384182
Alright then, something more for your tastes

>>78384024
Thanks. I think now I understand why people think it's such a big deal.

>>78384024
It also suffers from an insane political correctness problem, up to the point where the main villain is the only one allowed to not be politically correct. And this is treated seriously.

>>78384182
melius abundare quam deficere

>>78384207
Okay. I laughed.

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>>78384328
There's always stuff that's slightly more realistic.

>>78378873

Good first few acts until the Trolls come and bring with them the Tumblr fanbase and the whole thing starts going to shit because Hussie is clearly massively influenced by the Tumblrite shitheaps.

>>78384182

>>>/tumblr/
>>>/reddit/

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>>78384463

>>78384463
dat loli Nepeta

>>78384323
meanwhile, calliope is the most nothing empty character who's only identifying features are 'is polite' and 'shes one of the good guys'

>>78384323

Whut? Last I remember Hussie made fun those types.

>>78384323
And all the previous characters who weren't PC and mean assholes now are nice, and a bunch of characters suddenly became gay.

>>78384584
coff coff Davekat coff coff

>>78384565
>The Caucasian debacle
>The gay singularity
>Calli-fucking-ope

He stopped making fun of those types years ago. Now they're his main clientbase.

>>78384695
Were there more fans after or before the gay singularity and the other shenanigans?

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TFW homosuck has been the best part of Act 6

dont read homestuck thinking it leads into anything particularly good. only the very end might be good.

we used to be hyped for the ending, but the comic just fell into disappointing stuff. It frankly still seems like it's the middle of a comic, and it's at 99%.

>>78384795
it seems like that because hussie decided to introduce more drama and elements far beyond what needed to be introduced, like Davekat

>>78384745
all the SJW debacles happened at the height of the homestuck's popularity in act 6.
Which is obviously around the time with the highest number of sjw types. Because of the backlash over so many thing Hussie quickly learned who were the most vocal parts of the fanbase and sought to avoid offending them, then he eventually started playing to them

>>78384837
>all the SJW debacles happened at the height of the homestuck's popularity in act 6.

Probably cause that's when the whole SJW craze was just starting up

>>78384782
>not Vriska getting btfo'd by Hussie
>not Vriska getting btfo'd by (Tavros) two times
>not (Vriska) getting btfo'd by Vriska and then having the entire community go in outrage and compare (Vriska) as lawful good

>>78381734
>The EB fanbase is bad but they're not HS/UT bad
They're worse

>>78384837
And I imagine that most fans liked to discuss about shpping, right? Is shipping the key to success?

>>78384909
yes. I would say so.

As well as the trolls, being an "exotic" yet human species that lend themselves very easily to OCs

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>>78384977
Drawing people black and "its my headcanon" has become 2015's version of "ITS MY STYLE!"

>>78381734
>It's especially annoying for me since people are now trashing Earthbound

This has confounded me. People like plebcomics are fucking FURIOUS at the Earthbound/Mother fandom, and every time I see shit flare up, all I can think is "what the fuck happened?".

>>78384977
>>78385079
WE WUZ SBURB PLAYAHS N SHIEET

>>78385079
Once you realize that tumblr is just deviantart for the modern age it makes so much more sense

>>78384182
You're pretty fucking pathetic, aren't you?

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>>78385473
all the thirteen year olds on deviantart became twenty three year olds and now they're on tumblr, yes, that's the point.

>>78384977
>>78385079
Jeus christ people, it's fan arts. there is nothing worng with making them a different skin.

Not to mention, pink is the average color of humans being almost all race have a shade of pink.

>>78384463
I want to pet that cat.

>>78385473
I really don't understand why there are so much butthurt about making a character into a different race, really.

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>>78384633
What's wrong with this pairing?

Dave always had subtle gay undertones while talking. (Still creepy as fuck if you can imagine Bro influencing his sexual orientation by shoving puppet dicks on his face.)
Same with Karkat and his chats with Sollux and then when he warms up with Dave on the Meteor. And his prominent crush on John.

Still fuck that shitty "male rosemary" pairing. But hey, boring Jadekat, dumb Calliope/Karkat and the revival of Karezi also exist.

>>78385554
It's not just a different race, it's changing the characters so much they cease to look like the characters.
Jade becomes a giant hairy manbeast with vitiligo and a haircut that belongs in a cyberpunk movie. Oh and every character is trans for some reason

>>78385490
I have better taste in porn. That's all I meant. Not in a "girls don't actually look like that" sort of way. Just in a "all characters are comically curvy and busty is boring" kind of way.

>>78378873
it's good until the end of act 4
act 5 parts 1 and 2 are also good, but it's clear how they drew in the terrible fanbase
act 6 is pure shit

>>78385610
yeah true.
i appreciate a mulatto Jade with the same original traits for example, but when you go something like:
"full vitiligo, chocolate skin with freckles and big rasta" it's hideous.

>>78385610
The trans thing barely makes sense as far as Sburb goes anyway. Headcanons really need to die as an excuse for stupid shit.

I love Hussie's work and I think nearly every thing he's done is hilarious, but I don't think I will ever forgive him for PEACHY

>>78385767
for me trickster part was the part where HS jumped the shark... it was utter nonsense.

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>>78378873
It's pretty good, just don't expect you'll find any sympathy here

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>>78380520
BLOOD has nothing to do with LEADERSHIP

>>78385597
karkat should by all accounts still be obsessed with terezi, there's absolutely no reason he would suddenly drop that post retcon considering how obsessive he was

>>78386479
Terezi and his conversations pointedly ignoring their past is weird too. But feeling forced pretty much describes this entire last intermission

>>78386505
people say hussie had the ending planned from the start, but i think hussie literally had the ending specifically in mind, and not a natural path that leads up to it

it would explain why there's so many sudden contrivances and in-universe railroading so late in the story

>>78383318
>OFF was a great game that didn't deserve what happened to it.

OFF had an amazing concept but really sub-par gameplay. It was like the puzzles were arbitrary timekillers to make the game longer.

>>78380191
I already bought Undertale

Was 4chan down for anyone else?

>>78380191
Already pre-ordered, Huss. No doubt that your game will be GOTY.

>>78386995
this is some serious denial

>>78386711

i agree

i don't know why he didn't plan out a basic plot at some point

after he stopped taking suggestions, frankly

id have thought he had something really exciting planned after thousands of pages of build-up and characters talking about what was going to happen. instead it was just... some ghosts are meeting up? that's interesting but a minor event.

>>78387224
do you think slick is gonna die
because the way vriska was talking framed him as a bad guy even though he doesn't care about the kids

>>78383451
I find it interesting how Hussie's best art is silhouette stuff

>>78387633
When was the last time he drew a panel like that?

>>78386711
Hussie's said that he went in only knowing the mechanics of Sburb and that the goal of the game is to make a new universe, and that he made it up as he went along.

Originally, the "trolls" weren't aliens at all, but he saw a crack theory that they were and thought it'd be funny, and that's how that happened.

>>78387756
>Originally, the "trolls" weren't aliens at all, but he saw a crack theory that they were and thought it'd be funny, and that's how that happened.
source? the only thing i heard was that the trolls were never meant to be a big part of the story

>>78380403
There's an indie video game coming out soon called YIIK, it's definitely the whole, "Inspired by Earthbound/weird extra-dimensional shit happening in Suburban America," shtick, though slightly more pretentiously hipster. Also, the music isn't as good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh5sKE17L3w

I'm looking forward to it though.

>>78387822
I believe it was in the formspring

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/40585720/Combined_Formspring_Web_Aug-28-2011.htm#andrewhussie448980558

>>78385696
>>78385610
And? It's just fanarts.
/co/ used to have rule 63 of characters thread consistently, same difference.

The whole point of fanfic and fanart is to put characters into situation that would never happens in canon.

Internet has got tons of fanfics since ever, but now, it suddenly become a sort of offence? What's the big deal?

>>78387933
>The whole point of fanfic and fanart is to put characters into situation that would never happens in canon.
When your characters are so different from the actual characters in both look and personality they are no longer those characters

>>78387830
That combat system is awful. Awful. Awful.

>>78387841
That doesn't actually imply anywhere Trolls weren't originally aliens.

Trolls weren't started at the beginning of homestuck, but once they appeared, they were already aliens.

>>78387933
the plural of fanart is fanart

Can we all agree that Vriska is best girl?

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>>78388177
You mean Jade

>>78388177
But that's Roxy.

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>>78388177
Only betas who want to be dominated like Vriska, anon.

>>78388220
>Jade
>best anything
The only thing Jade is good at is being a corpse

>>78388291
Explains why Egbert liked her so much

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>vriska

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>>78388293
Yeah, you'd have that opinion since you have shit taste wouldn't you.

>>78388320
i see a bulge

>>78388320
How many times has she died now anyway?

>>78388385
3. 4 if you count Davesprite's timeline

>>78388382
Puffy puppy pussy

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>>78388314
not accurate

>>78388534
I don't know how that meme got started but I like it.

>>78388314
>>78388573
What the hell happened to her

>>78388611
tumblr

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>>78388609
Damn right

>>78388611
She became Karkat 2.0 and Tumblr combined and stole Meenah from him

>>78388736
dave and davesprite were fools to give that up

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>>78388890
i know right

>>78389054
see it's this shit
why, what is the point of making jade into a large black man

>>78388573
Isn't this just an alternate Vriska?

>>78387985
Once again, who the fuck care? That's how many internet fanfics have been and it was not a big deal before, it shouldn't be now.

Beside, changing race or gender easily fall in the what if and only affect the outside appearance, not the inner self of the characters.

I could write an HS AU where everyone has 5 penis and this be faithfull to the characterisation of the characters. Changing race or gender isn't what make a characterisation bad in a fanfic.

>>78389398
>I could write an HS AU where everyone has 5 penis and this be faithfull to the characterisation of the characters
Well now you have to do it.

>>78388611
She decided to settle down and stop being a try hard and got completly rekt by an other Vriska and it was the best fucking thing ever.
>>78388627
Am I the only one who can still see a joke when there is one? Or are people so easily triggered that anything that might remotely be akin to the hated tumblr kill any sense of irony and humor on /co/

>>78388826
And then Vriska stole Meenah from Vriska.

And then Tavros stole MEenah from Vriska.

>>78389432
Except I suck at keeping character faithful when I attempt fanfics.

But it has nothing to do with my 5 penises and everything to do with how I suck at writing.

>>78389491
Someone else must do this in your stead.

>>78389467
Wait so which one is Alpha Vriska?

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>>78389651
The Vriska that wrekcked Wriska, stole her meenah and got it stolen by Tavros.

>>78389705
OK then that's fine, main Vriska is the only one I care about

>>78389724
Mind you, the wwrecked Vriska was the Alpha Vriska, but because of something John did, she isn't anymore and while the current alpha Vriska exist thanks to the wrrecked Vriska (who is the reason John did that thing), Current Alpha Vriska hate everything about her.

>>78389792
So was wrecked Vriska the one that Terezi stabbed in the back?

>>78389955
Yes. She also may or may not have died, depending on how you view the last page/flash.

>>78390123
>tfw your best friends are even better friends with people you barely even know than with you
>and your sister has basically been living on a boat alone for 3 years, thinking that you're dead
>and if that wasn't enough, some dickhead with a weird lisp is hate-hitting on you

What's Dave's current death total?

>>78387987
Anon, if you don't have anything nice to say...

>>78378873
I have no idea. I tried getting into it but after an hour and a half all that had happened was some kid got a game for his birthday and checked his e-mail.

>>78390214
>thinking that you're dead
he WAS dead, in fact it was our current john's deliberate decision to kill him

>>78390015
Yes she did die.

The only thing left to wonder in the last update is if players still alive during a retcon get to go in the dreambubble.

I would tend toward no based on how the main player of the A1 session get to become ghost: they had to die just before the Scratch happened (Meenah dropped the bomb, remember?), so that they wouldn't get back to be alive when the scratch take place.

Seeing as the Scratch is the closest thing we get to john's retcon power (it even share the white "aura") I'd say retcon work the same: if you are alive during a retcon, you get completely replaced. If you were dead, you get to go in the dream-bbble, regardless of retcon. same thing with the Scratch.

>>78390266
You have to keep readin up until the end of Act 2 to make yourself a good idea and decide whether or not to continue reading.

>>78379398
>>78379370
Yeah, Toby "Radiation" Fox did a lot of the homestuck soundtrack (and helped others on the team with it or gave them samples).

Even if you have zero interest in homestuck, the music has merit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClhUae7DMs

>>78387125
>>78387125
If tobey helped him on it might end up decent. At least the music will be good.

Most everyone agrees that Acts 1 - 4 are solid while Act 5 is the start of the downturn isn't because of the trolls. People blame the trolls, but it's not why the comic started going badly. What changes at that point is that the 4 kids stop being the main focus. Or really, that the 4 kids as a collective group stop being the main focus, or any focus.

>>78390422
if toby helps him on it it'll stop toby from making something on his own, which would be a way better use of his time

>>78390422

How would Homestuck have turned out if Andrew was the only one to ever work on it? On the one hand, I think it would drop a lot in quality. On the other, I kind of feel like the problems that eventually consumed Homestuck were related to Andrew using contributions from too many people.

>>78390444
>Most everyone agrees that Acts 1 - 4 are solid while Act 5 is the start of the downturn isn't because of the trolls
I disagree. The comic is better than ever. 5 had a climax and from that, 6 had to pick up again and it was a slow moving wagon due to brand new characters that had basically no setting beforehand that need e to be established.

But it picked speed back again and it resulted in a lot of great pay-off. The only thig that has objectively tunred worst since Act-Act6 is the update schedule.

The lack of update is really what make current Hosmetuck less enjoyable.

>>78390483
>How would Homestuck have turned out if Andrew was the only one to ever work on it?
That was never going tohappens. Andrew is actually the one that seek contributors for his animated sections.

He wanted Homestuck to be animated from the start and that required sound.

>>78390494
Yeah, act 6 was weak day to day, but rereading it it was much better.

A lot of people came on during or after act 5 so after archive binging that's the part where it stopped being as good for them.

The real killer has definitely been the megapause. Now that we know what shit went down wasn't all Hussie's fault (should have gotten a better contract though dude, where they couldn't fuck you over so much, also I can't enjoy the new Kings Quest as a result), I feel more sympathetic to his reasons, but it doesn't change the fact that it hurt him bad.

>>78390520

Well yeah, anything that is the Homestuck we see now is the result of things Andrew wanted to happen. The idea is to imagine how things would have been if Andrew had wanted to work on Homestuck on his own.

I have absolutely no idea

At first I taught it was about kids playing a game, then it went fubar and the game became reality or something but then it turn out reality itself was part of the game all along that was made by some green goblin from outside time that was created from stuff that got created in the newly created universe (so that mean the green goblin created himself, I think?), or something. Also there is music.

Also shitload of pointless banter and discussion between different person, with different typing quirks that are somewhat cute but by the 24th(aprox. cant be bothered to count them) new character it start to be a pain to read due to the clusterfuck of identifying everyone by their typing quirks and text color, with the storytelling constantly jumping from one person to another, add to the intergenerational/interdimensional/whatthefuckisevengoingon clones seem to appear left and right for no real purpose, or maybe they have one, it like a cock-and-bull story of epic proportion that is written day by day.

Honestly, I think most of the peoples are just there for the shipping and the free porn, little more.

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Homestuck had everything to age like wine: Lore and Waifus

all I know the fandom is full of egotistical douchebags

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I'm just waiting for the end-of-the-year news post so there's actually something to discuss again.

>>78391862
>implying it won't come on january 10th with a "sorry, busy with family issues I can't really get into"

>>78379167
No it's more complicated than that. If you would've gotten to Act 5, you would have seen how fucking crazy it became.

>>78379379
I think he's helping Hussie with the game right now.

>>78392203
no he isn't, that's just a rumor being spread desperately by the 5 remaining hiveswap devs

if they do announce a collaboration with toby, how do you think that will affect the homestuck readership/how people see hussie or toby?
right now toby's seen as some sort of prodigy of indie games but being associated with homestuck could shit that up really fast

>>78390947
spooked

>>78392266
>combining undertale's fanbase with homestuck's rekindled one

PLEASE
NO

>>78392216
Toby says he's working on the game in this interview: https://youtu.be/qpjiOAKYPXM?t=1h24m36s

>>78392266
>>78392309
Around half of the Undertale fandom are/were also Homestuck fans, it's not really going to make much of a difference.

>>78392554
he composed five tracks for the soundtrack which are being arranged by some other guy
that's the extent of his contribution

>>78392554
he only mentions the music though, the rumour is he's working on the gameplay more substantially, basically that the current version of the game could get scrapped in favour of 2D sprites

>>78392582
Do you have any source saying it's only five tracks?

>>78392636
I've never heard of that rumor and I doubt that has any substance anyways.

>>78392720
well we'll find out in the upcoming newspost if it's true or not
>>78392663
i'm loving these stylized versions of character traits

>>78378873
Try it and see for yourself

>>78392663
>>78390947
>>78390123
You made those? You have some talent, son.

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Why is she so perfect?

>>78387933
>/co/ used to have rule 63 of characters thread consistently, same difference.
I don't mind when fanartists draw something that is outright fantastical for the purposes of fapping. I just get annoyed when they try to paint implausible interpretations of the characters as plausible.

>>78392663
I will never get how people are rooting for them to be endgame when they've been pretty much stagnant ever since they've hooked up.

Comedy, lore, somewhat cringeworthy dialogue and gray alien jailbait.

>>78386851
And excellent music.

>>78390947
>>78390123
kek. Is this the FREEDOM guy?

dumb vriskaposter

>>78383318
Hey I've played that game. What happened to it that was so bad? I only found out about it after a friend recommended it to me after playing LISA.

>>78393963
Same thing that happened to Homestuck, the fanbase became total cancer.

>>78393994
Did the fanbase grow too huge and implode on itself? Because I've literally never encountered a fan of that game, or even people who want to talk about it.

>>78393979
still dave's best ship

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>>78394054
Dave/Jade is pretty great, but it's not Dave/Rose.

>>78394257
That's why it's the best

>>78394044
>>78393994
When I finished OFF and looked around to look for more content I only found gay porn & shipping. Albeit it's weird that something hyper-niche and disconnected like OFF (who finds more in common with other "deep" indie and RPG maker games than nerd stuff) had gay shipping that's pretty standard for a fandom.

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shrug

Homestuck would be a better comic if the Space players didn't exist

>>78381734
Where exactly does this happen with the Undertale fanbase? I hear of people whining about it all the time but i have never seen anyone posting about Undertale outside of threads involving it. I also have never seen Undertale mentioned on websites outside of it's own little area, Unless someone who isn't even a fan brings it up.

I was really into the whole idea of SBURB, connecting with gaming/online pals for irl bullshitting, and the mystery that surrounded it for the first parts of the story. Ya know, how there'd be a huge mindfuck every so often, making everything they did feel important

>>78390123
>>78392663
Hope you get your followers back family
I mean new ones, not those who followed you for SU

>>78395665
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge20_vote
Fucking insanity to think UT > Pokemon or even SMW. But outside gaming areas theyre even in my facebook feed.

>>78396242
>taking a GameFAQs popularity poll seriously

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>>78396242
don't worry about it

>>78395665

people make much more of it than it is on tumblr. helps if you just unfollow them though.

What do you guys think of Octopimp? I always thought he was kind of lame, even when he made Homestuck videos instead of an abridged series of an anime no one cares about.

>>78396777
it was kind of shitty how he suddenly stopped doing homestuck videos and did his anime dubs instead, without saying officially whether there'd be more homestuck vids
it felt like he did that on purpose so people wouldn't unsubscribe, but i dont miss them either way

>Karkat still a boring good guy with zero negative traits and suffers for no reason

>>78397229
He's Troll-Jegus, what do you expect?

Reminder that HUSSIE IS A HACK

And that Roxy is best girl.

>>78396777
He's doing the Free Abridged Series?

Fujoshi shippers care about that. The same ones that like this piece of shit Homestuck too. He knows what he's doing.

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How was your year, totally not /hsg/?

If you like shipping circlejerking with a complex but SLOW AS HELL story then go ahead

>>78397992
>tfw anything shittily drawn by a character is going to happen
When's John and Rose going to mate to repopulate the universe, as Karkat predicted

>>78398499
>The final objective in Sburb is to repopulate the species
>Hussie made all the humans homosexual so there would be a struggle to fulfill this goal
>The true ending has all the kids embracing heterosexuality and having a ton of babies

>you will never get with a chubby rose
why bother?

>>78378873
You've already gotten enough replies to know, and you probably won't even read this after so many. Whatever.

The quality peaks at around the end of the first third of it, which is the ending of Act 4 out of 6. (The timing is so weird because Acts 5 and 6 are ridiculously long because the story kind of meanders on with a shitton of new characters and this whole "alternate reality" shit that requires double the characters and really shouldn't have ever existed.)

The later parts of it aren't necessarily BAD; they just have the stigma of a really annoying fanbase that only cares about the recent parts because of stupid shipping garbage; even though the beginning third is so much better in every way.

This oughta give you the idea. Flash animations/interactions often highlight the more important parts of the comic. In the first third, these flashes were a pretty solid mix of humor and worldbuilding, with a few gags that had nothing to do with the comic of the story. In the modern comic, the flashes are almost universally saved for big fight scenes or "deep revelations."

In early Homestuck, the entire story felt like a source to bounce jokes off of. In modern Homestuck, the only humorous moments are just references to jokes that happened earlier in the comic and nothing else.

I hate Vriska so much. When will Karkat ever do something cool?

>>78399252
Coming up soon

>>78397992
it was ass and i miss homestuck

>>78399261
I would rather have Karkat and Kankri double-teaming and coming inside Aranea. Filling her with disgusting candyred manlet semen.

>>78399548
>tfw no Vriska being forced to watch her praised ancestor being used as a cumdump

>>78387830
I'm sick of parody, holy shit.

>>78399548
>colored semen
Where does this come from?

>>78400107
fanart

>>78400107
Karkat telling Eridan the next time he saw his blood color that it better be coming out of his body (not an innuendo).

>>78399548
>not Karkat being used as a slave for the Serket household

>>78393211
It's called stable relationship.

>>78400415
Equius isn't involved though.

>>78400415
And their stable relationship is boring as shit and doesn't resolve any developments on either of them.

>>78400444
Because you think finding someone solve your personal problem? Ha!

And frankly it's not boring. What we got from them on the pad was quite nice.

It make for nice interaction with each other and it(s all it need to be.

>>78397992
/r/homestuck did the undertale fight, not us

>Jade started off with narcolepsy
>Turns out she doesn't actually have it; it was Vriska's doing the entire time
>End of Year 1, John gets slammed into a wall since he doesn't know how to phase yet and gets knocked out
>End of Year 2, John randomly passes out in his driveway out of sheer rage
>End of Year 3, John is asleep by the time they enter Session B2; Davesprite notes that John slept a lot on the journey and wonders why he's sleeping now of all times
>Yfw John's developed actual narcolepsy over the journey

>>78400470
Too bad Hussie hates writing these two.

Also fuck having Kanaya go back to Vriska.

>>78379379
He sure did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1p0bLkNGa0

>>78378873
It's just Family Guy: Deepest Lore edition. The characters are unsympathetic and rarely show any semblance of humanity. If I were you, I'd play Undertale instead of reading Homestuck. It has the same sense of humor and overall aesthetic, but I actually care about the characters and what happens to them.

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>>78401009
gr8 b8 m8

>>78401020
This is my actual opinion. I've met several Homestuck fans outside of 4chan who have asked what I thought of the comic, and I gave each of them this response. You shouldn't assume my opinion is bait just because it's nitpicky or doesn't make sense.

Wait, what if your response.. WAS the bait?

>>78400944
>implying Kanaya is the most boring character of Homestuck.

>>78401047
Comparing it to FG is extremely b80, recommending Undertale as an alternative when it is so far removed from HS is just the cherry on top

>>78384695
>Calli-fucking-ope
Actually, that should be "Cal-fucking-liope" or something along those lines, since the word "fucking", when used as an infix, goes before the stressed syllable. However, pretty much any location in this case flows awfully when spoken, so I would stick with "fucking Calliope" to keep things simple.

>>78401009
Fuck off, Radiation.

>>78401057
Yes, she is. Next to Calliope.

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>>78395385
would you go as far as to call them.... a waste?

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>>78389054
>tfw black
>tfw utterly repulsed by this artwork
>tfw the person who drew this is likely some white libtard who thinks they drew up a fine representation of a black person

These people just need to stop already.

I mean seriously, don't they receive actual criticism for putting this shit out?

>>78401588
ghetto nigga Jade is worst Jade

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>>78395564
ARADIA a best

>>78380191
They haven't updated the dev blog or dev twitter feed in half a year. Something fishy is going on at What Pumpkin Software.

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REMOVE VRISKA REMOVE VRISKA REMOVE VRISKA REMOVE VRISKA REMOVE VRISKA REMOVE VRISKA REMOVE VRISKA REMOVE VRISKA

>>78401710
And yet Hussie isn't man enough to admit there's something wrong. His newspost calling production going well is the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen him write.

>>78401805
If he does, he'll have to admit he only lost the $300k instead of absolutely everything like tumblr has been trying to say.

>>78395295
That Vriska is a qt.

During her conversations with John, I actually thought her character was going to go in a positive direction.

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>>78401888
I still have hopes for her.

>>78401972
Nepeta deserves someone better than this asshole.

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>>78401805
>>78401875
It's all very troubling. Don't get me wrong -- I backed the Kickstarter. I want the game to succeed. But all this silence is deafening.

>>78402031
I backed the Kickstarter too. That's why I feel so strongly about Hussie pretending everything's going great and keeping everyone in the dark. Really, we have a right to know.

How can anyone hate Vriska?

>>78401888
She can still become a good person. She just needs more time with John.

what does it take for some people to stop having faith in hiveswap
are they just broken

>>78402763
People usually get desperate when they give money for something and end up getting nothing. This'll teach them to blindly trust Kickstarter

>>78402732
>more time with John
>forgetting that she showed her true colors to John in the dreambubbles

>>78402857
It's fine, don't worry about it

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>>78379049
Not so fast, Buster Brown!
>Official list of MSPA related stuff worth reading
>Problem Sleuth
>JailBreak
>Midnight Crew Intermission
>Summerteen Romance

who ARADIA here

>>78402970
>listing summerteen romance and not the felt comic

>>78403029
Vriska is superior

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>>78403029
mein negro

>>78403033
I didn't have this much fun with felt comic as i had with constant jabs at source material.

>>78402970
And It Don't Stop is kind of related

Dave x Mayor is the only valid ship, everybody else go home

>wake up
>dave/karkat is still canon
wwhy

serious question

>>78403389
because it's the most popular pairing in fanfics
that's literally the only reason, i don't have any proof but i'm pretty certain regardless

>>78403389
>Dave/Karkat
As someone that just finished Act 5 I find this deeply disturbing

>>78403517
stop after "[s] C******: Enter" for your own good

>>78403531
I can't stop now. I have to finish this.

>>78403909
there's no end to it
you just have a hiatus at the end, and there's no way hussie will manage to finish homestuck in a satisfying way now that dave/karkat is canon

c*: enter is the last good flash that matters, a perfect finishing spot

>>78403933
How long has it been on hiatus?

>>78404006
the comic advanced in six months in 2010 more than it has advanced in the last 3 years

currently we're in a year long hiatus, I think month 8 maybe?

>>78404006
there's a good chance the hiatus will end in april

>>78404023
Didn't Hussie say something like the comic is 99℅ complete

>>78404057
hahaaahahahaahAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>78404070
What's so funny?

>>78404057
Don't believe his lies.

>>78404082
Don't believe his lies.

>>78404052
Only 110 days for even a slight chance at an update!

>>78404057
he also said the comic will end in 2010

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>>78378873
it's about

BIG

CANON

SPIDERTITS

>>78404023
The comic updated 5 months ago.

>>78404130

Things feel like they are close to over, unless more baddies get introduced that are even stronger somehow considering how stupid it is power rankings wise.

>>78404170
Vriska has moderately sized breasts! I will not abide this!