Is there a more sanctimonious and insufferable artist than

I don't usually like David Willis but he did an excellent comic mocking Zen Pencils. Anyone got it?

Kris Straub did a good one too.

>>78078355
The man has severe issues with jobs in general. Every other comic seems to be some of asinine "fuck the rat race quit your day job live your dreams forget all responsibilities you have"

>>78078448
At least this one didn't tell people to go off into the wilderness and fight imaginary dragons.

>>78078472

Or build a giant robot to murder critcism.

>>78078527
And deface the moon with a word a good chunk of the population of Earth is either unable to understand or dislikes because it assumes everyone speaks English.

not only is ZP insufferable but Chris Guillebeau sounds like a cunt

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>>78078472
I still cannot understand what he even though he was trying to say with this.

>>78078355
>been working at a job for 5 years.
>they give me a watch already.

check and mate.

>>78078560
>>78078527
And have a man who hates giant robots pilot said giant robot.

>>78078355
But I don't want to write a book or start a business. I like being behind the scenes and being the support. Honestly, if I had followed my dreams I would have become a butler.

>>78078644
I think this is it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

Seriously you'd think he'd want to write a fantasy novel or some shit but nooo he's gotta go insane.
>>78078690
>Zen Pencils was a mistake

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>>78078560

>>78078644
I don't understand what this about.
If you have delusions, throw away your entire life and fallow them?

>>78078355
He's right. You don't have to live your life at the base average.

Then again, no one on earth has and anyone who think so has been watching too much hippy propaganda.

Most cartoonists have an unhealthy hatred of conformity

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>>78078355
Dobbo

>>78079101
What the shit

>>78078644
>>78078792
I don't dislike this one.

Yeah, if you have delusions then you should follow them.
Don't pretend like your current life is more important than your delusions, it's not.
I mean the only real reason not to chase your delusions is if you are a little bitch

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>>78079101
First time ive ever kek'd unironically to a Dobson comic

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>>78079101
Fucking Dobson actually told a joke? And pretty funny joke!? Christ almighty, somebody save Satan because Hell has frozen over!

>>78079101
>tells a joke
>still doesn't draw backgrounds

>>78078448
Or
>Corporations are eeeeeeeeeeeeevil.

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ZEN PENCILS HATE THREAD?

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>>78079866
ZEN
PEN
CILS
HATE
THREAD

>>78079866
Does anyone have the full Art thing?
With the change to the last panel?
You know the change.

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>>78079913
even when he's mocking another insufferably sanctimonious person, he comes off as insufferably sanctimonious

>>78079934
I don't, sorry.

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>>78079101

Jesus Christ Dobson.

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>>78079101
You mean to tell me Dobson can be humorous?

>>78080008
It's blowing my fucking mind. I never thought he'd make me laugh for his intended reason.

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The fact that zenpencils got really made at people using his work with another person's work without permission is really funny given that's all his work is.

>>78078355
Some of Zen Pencils' stuff is pretty good, but the rest are kinda' really annoying.

>>78079934
Is the change a loss thing ?

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>>78078355
>Having a comfortable office job with enough security to remain there your entire working adult life.
>Make enough to pay off a massive mortgage.
>Get a retirement gift and thanks for your loyalty to the company from management.
>This is bad.

>>78080089
His art style is really unattractive to me. That and half his comics are just drawing someones speech or a section of a book they wrote.

>>78080031
Is this all an act? Is Dobson actually an ok dude and he's only acting like a douche to get attention?

>>78079417
>>78079512
>>78080008
>>78080031
Statistically speaking he was bound to make at least one funny comic eventually.

>>78079999
>drilpencils
RIP

>>78080031
>>78080216
He focused in doing an actual joke instead of giving criticism to something.

>>78080127
Of course it is.

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>>78078355

>>78080225
Who?

>>78080160
Seriously. We should all be as fucking lucky as that guy. I'm almost 30, and I still have to have a room mate to make rent.

>>78080259
yes

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>>78078355
>Is there a more sanctimonious and insufferable artist than zen pencils.

Nice job taking this from the reddit front page. Why did you bother coming to 4chan? Why not go back to reddit? https://www.reddit.com/r/GetMotivated/comments/3w7zln/image_dont_be_average/

>>78080160
And he had some nice vacations too.

>>78080297
Anon if you knew it was from Reddit maybe you should go back there too

>>78080248
It's sad because sometimes he uses legitimate quotes. Though those he usually misses the point.

>>78078355
Damn. That comics pretty much shits on everyone who just has a regular life, the kind of life people in shitty wartorn countries are literally risking their lives for.

Do the people making these even realise what giant tools they are.

>>78080394
>people
it's one guy

and no, he doesn't

>>78080270
>I still have to have a room mate to make rent.
I don't see why that's bad. Living alone sounds shitty unless you have a crazy social life. Roommies are comfy.

>>78080419
Fuck you.

>>78079279
Delusions are what you are taught to take distance from when you're a child, because they can seriously harm your life. Following your delusions is what bronies, furfags and pedophiles do, because at no moment did they stop to think "I feel like I have to do that, but won't that close me a lot of other doors, just for a bit of fun?"

Following delusions is running away from your real world responsabilities because you are so terrified of them

>>78080419
roommates are only nice if a) they're your friend and b) until they start dating a screamer

>>78080385
It's amazing how obsessed the guy is with wisdom and metaphors and shit, but then he takes everything as literally as possible.

>>78080245
I may have it. Searching in my folders now

>>78078448
he also draws an awful lot of comics about sticking it to those awful haters and bullies

dude's mad insecure and was probably bullied himself as a kid

>>78078655
Ha! your gonna be sacrificed in the virgin pit!

>>78080456
The opposite is true.
I'm not a brony or a furfag, but if I was I would pursue those interests to their insane conclusions.
What is the point of real world responsibilities, aside from things like feeding yourself, if you don't enjoy them?
If you don't want to take on responsibilities that normal people do, if there's something else you'd rather do, you absolutely should.
There's no point in doing things you don't like if you don't really have to do them.
There's no point in avoiding the things you want to do just because other people will think you're weird for doing them.

>>78078355
If you go to college to study something that wont pay you money that makes it worth while you are making a mistake.

So do get the grades and get rich.

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Alright, time for a good comic

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>>78080624
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>>78080644
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>>78080658
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>>78080673
7/15

>>78080546
You're forgetting that you also have responsibilities to other people, unless you're a hermit in a shack in the middle of nowhere

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>>78080691
8/15

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>>78080705
9/15

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>>78080718
10/15

>>78080546
>There's no point in doing things you don't like if you don't really have to do them.
But you do them because you HAVE to do them. You HAVE to work and earn money even if it's not the kind of job you'd like to have. Because MAYBE, SOMEDAY you could use that money you earned doing something you didn't like to do something you DO enjoy.
It's how adults think. It's called compromise.

But to this zenpencils guy it seems to be one way or the other, fuck the consequences. Sure! Quit your job and do whatever you like! After all your wife will still work the job she hates to support the daughter you have!

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>>78080733
11/15

>>78080160
>I would literally kill for an office job, I am seriously thinking of joining the army because 4 years service seems more secure than my currant gig which is month by month rolling contract, fuck artists, I'd love a mortgage.

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>>78080750
12/15

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>>78080764
13/15

>>78080546
>if you don't really have to do them.
It's interesting you say that, because "things you really have to do" constitute 90% of a person's life and most of the time it's things they don't like to do. Mostly working at a job you don't love, keeping everything clean and steady in the house, keeping contact with people who aren't your best friends.

While you and the author both claim that you should stop doing any job you don't like to get one you love, it's entirely impossible to apply it to society as a whole, and most of the time it's not technically possible for you to do so because the job you really want to have is taken by someone more competent or with more relations than you

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>>78080777
14/15

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>>78080792
15/15.

>>78078355

What's wrong with #5, #7, and #10?

Who wants to vacation in Iraq?

>>78080466
That's fair. I've just always lived with my best friends so for me I wouldn't like to live alone at this point.

>>78080806
I don't get it.

>>78080546
Too bad life doesn't work like that.

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>>78080806
16/15 :^)

>>78080829
I dont get it.

>>78080829
cute af

>>78080852
Happiness will bring you a qt lesbian girlfriend.

>>78080394
>the kind of life people in shitty wartorn countries are literally risking their lives for.
Fucking this.

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>>78079866
And now kris straub actually got preachy

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>>78080699
>responsibilities to other people
Like what?
I don't really think that this is true.
The only responsibility to another person that you have that you can't really break without being a piece of shit is parenthood.
>>78080747
Yeah, if you have a family and abandon them you are a piece of shit.
But if you're a single guy and you just want to do whatever you want, there's really nothing wrong with that.
It might not turn out perfectly in the end, but it probably wouldn't if you got a regular job either.
And like you said it might be a wiser choice to work a regular job just in the meantime, but I don't think there's anything really wrong with making unwise choices. Plus most people end up never pursuing their dreams, so it's better to chase that shit and fail then grow old and be full of regret.
>>78080784
I get that it's nearly impossible but that doesn't you shouldn't do it.
I mean, why work a job you don't like to support your life which is spent mostly things you don't like?
You should just kill yourself in that case.

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>>78078355
The reason i hate this is because it implies that the life of the average man is inherently bad, a unhappy being devoid of any artistic merit or ambition.
Fuck you zen pencils, not everybody can be artists that why they're artists, a lack of possession of intent is not a failing as a human being, declaring 90% of humanity as pitiful creatures is the height of narcissism you fucking prick.

>>78080852
Don't you get it. She destroyed an entire ecosystem because in her eyes it was ugly and grimm

>>78080894
But he was.

>>78080852
Searching for new ideas and with a bit of help, DETROIT SHALL RISE AGAIN!

>>78080897
to self reply I guess there are some other responsibilities--maybe having to work to take care of your parents if they're unable to do so.
I'm just saying that if you can pursue your dreams and you don't, why?

>>78080829
well that was nice

>>78080898
It's the same shit like why not everybody are scientists

I hate shit like that, just leave people alone geez

>>78078355
>think about writing a book but never do it, think about starting your own business but never do it
>go to college, get a 40hr/week job, travel outside the country, get a house
What's the fucking message here? Business owners and writers are a more preferable full time job? This reads like a comic from the onion, where all the do's are what the author likes/does, and the don't are what the author wishes he could do.

>>78080297
>something that appears on reddit cannot appear on 4chan
/r/getmotivated, I'm assuming, has a completely different attitude from OP.

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>>78079101
>Dobson tells a pretty good joke

Well alright then

>>78078644
I like that one because the moral is basically "Retreat into a violent fantasy world at the expense of your marriage and finances." It's a bold stance to take and I admire that.

>>78080894
But Lovecraft was insanely racist. Like, so much so he made all the other racists of his era uncomfortable.

>>78080894
>denying that lovecraft was hella racist
damn historical revisionism

>>78080897
>better to chase that shit and fail then grow old and be full of regret.
You're still thinking in extremes. You can both lead a "regular life" and pursue your passions. They're not opposites. It's hard, but it's the best way to go around things. Most of the time the passionate ones that pursue a dream already had a secure base to work from, which is often not mentioned in any inspirational "success story" you hear. The dream of actually making it big is what keeps regular joes going, hoping that one day they'll be able to stop.
But it's just a dream. Even if you're a single guy, unless you don't have any parents, you'll end up hurting them when you risk everything and fail and end up having to go back to living with them.

>>78080829
Cute but yeah kinda weak in the story dept

I'd rather have that than zenpencils stuff though

>>78080898
>The reason i hate this is because it implies that the life of the average man is inherently bad, a unhappy being devoid of any artistic merit or ambition.
No I'm pretty sure it's because the dude is just regurgitating shit we all know and hear, there is no new perspective on this at all.

>>78080969
>think about starting your own business but never do it

I don't get it too
I thinking about my own business but I don't start it because after all calculations it wouldn't be profiteable/I don't have enough money/too much competition
Not everybody can make a business

>>78081033
Yes, you're definitely right, the moderate approach is best.

>>78080933
>>78081014
>>78081022
He posted it to congratulate the sci fi contest who decided to not give a Lovecraft face as a trophy, because people complained that Lovecraft was a racist
http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2015/11/09/problematic-faves/
Which is true, but so were Gandhi, Lincoln, and the majority of people who lived before the 19th century. The whole thing was due to a white guy who felt real sorry that his brothers of color were attacked in the past by Lovecraft, so he decided to be offended on their behalf.

This thread is making me remember that I've been working on a shitty cartoon while working full-time and living with my fiance... for four years now. When I first started I thought it would take four months.

fuck

>>78081052
Yes, but he seems to be presenting a lot of really fantastic things as if they were bad.

>>78080933

But everyone already knows that, and it doesn't negate his work from being brilliant and original.

But if you didn't make a comic about it, how would everyone know how progressive you are and that it bothers you?

>>78080829
How to meet Emmy Cicierega??

>>78081082
Oh great so he's one of those nuts that thinks that you can't like someone's works even if you disagree with him on certain topics.

>>78081082
Oh. Okay then. In that case, fuck the shit out of those people.

Seriously, nobody seems to realize that Gandhi made some KKK members of the same era look progressive and inclusive.

>>78081082
>Lincoln
>Gandhi
>Lovecraft
>before the 19th century
are you an idiot

>>78080940
You can pursue your dreams and have a job
Zenpencils assures you giving up on everything and pursuing your dream is the way to live your life, but it's an overly simplistic "Seize the day" state of mind that only ever works in bad movies

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>>78081052
Not as much as the implication that mediocrity is a sin greater than stagnation or apathy.

>tfw oil painter
>tfw get lumped in with people like this who when i tell people im an artist
>tfw people assume im a pretentious git

>>78080934
I'll admit I giggled.

>>78081140
Eh, you know what he means.

20th Century. There you go.
Of course these days we're just fucking insanely racist in the other direction.

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>>78079913
>mentioning Bill Watterson

>>78081140
"and" implies dissociation
But yes we can put it before the 20th century too if you'd prefer

>>78079101
>>78081005
THESE ARE TRULY THE END TIMES

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>>78081203

>>78081183
Lovecraft was 10 when the 19th century ended, and Gandhi didn't become active until 1915

>>78081089
>brilliant and original.
"So what does the monster look like? Shit, can't decide. Eh, I'll just say it's 'unknowable' or whatever".

Kidding aside, it's not a particulary offensive comic on its own. Maybe the text blurb that came with it displayed some questionable attitude from Straub. But the comic itself is harmless, because as you said "everyone knows that".

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>>78081203
This isn't inspiring. This is a fucking school shooter with his gun digitally replaced!

>>78081192
The comic is parodying the Zen Pencils one that runs with a Watterson quote about pushing the envelope. And makes it about... of course, quitting your job to do art.

>>78081203
That's a good poem but is he encouraging victims of bullying to murder their aggressors?
Because hitting a kid in the head with a hammer would kill him
>>78081233
I don't understand the message at all

>>78081218
did he just fucking kill a guy?

>>78081219
Yeah. So 20th century. Calm your autism.

>>78081276
And destroyed the other's eye.

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>>78079913
I know exactly from which Calvin's story that bearded man eating fire comes from
>>78081192
I'm fucking putting some deep as shit Calvin in this thread

>>78080829
very nice anon, thank you

>>78081267
>I don't understand the message at all

INSPIRING

>>78078696
>Snazzy suit
>Good pay
>Get to be around rich, charismatic people
>Get to make bad "Butler did it" jokes
>Talk like a snooty dick to people you hate

Fuck, butler sounds pretty cool right about now.

>>78080008
I'm honestly surprised!

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>>78081233
>"Hey George, did you hear? That kid killed two kids up with a hammer! There was blood everywhere!"
>"Wow! Let's go make fun of him, that sounds like a safe idea!"

>>78081256
It's all disconcerting. What do these quotes mean in the context of this dark plot?

The Invictus strip is great, that's all I care.

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i fucking hate how pretentious this guy is

the #hate and "make good art" comics piss me off

>>78081203
>>78081218
>>78081233
I'm starting to think Zen has some issues he needs worked out.

>>78081233
>Waaah, I'm such an outcast ever since I killed that guy with a hammer!

>>78081367
kek

>>78081218
I actually like this poem but I don't think it justifies assault and murder.

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>>78081353
Doesn't it? Learn some hand-to-hand and first-aid in your spare time and you've basically become Alfred Pennyworth.

>>78081416
At least his dad still loves him.

Which is Episode 2 Amidala levels of denial.

>>78081203
so he gets the first hit but still gets punch to death anyway.
The fuck is this shithead going on about?

>>78081403
No one's posted it yet, have they?
I don't think I've ever seen the original.

Anyone have that other bully comic he did?

>>78081233
Oh Please. Like the other kids wouldn't know that those bully kids are assholes.
Sure not everyone support hammer-kid, but fuck pretty sure most of the other kids could understand what happened.

He's a pretty unremarkable whitebread Starbucks self help consumer for someone so "anti conformity".

>>78081310
By the way what the fuck was the Zen Pencil's guy deal with Bill Watterson? Never understood the hate.

>>78078355
Zen pencils has always struck me as a person that hates their life and wants you to hate yours too.

>>78081494
The one where the poor kid is bullied by having a girl pick his rival over him, and he ends up rich and wealthy and rubs it in the bully's face and we're supposed to like him?

>>78080546
>I'm not a brony or a furfag
but you're a pedo? do you pursue that to insane conclusions?

>>78081642
That's the one.

>>78081600
Nothing. He twisted one of Bill's quotes into some kind of "quit your job and fuck your family's well-being" story.

>>78081642
>>78081773
holy shit did he actually make that?
for fucks sake, thats a fantasy fucking 14 year olds have.

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>>78081773
>We are supposed to like Zuberger

I really hate Zenpencils

>>78081848
>>Puckerburg
What kind of gay fucking last name is that? He could have called him John Smith and we still would have gotten it.

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>Female comedians
>Funny

So my vagina...

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>>78081848
I'm really supposed to believe that the star football player, class-president, and Valedictorian became a janitor?

>>78081848
>got to speak at graduation so he was probably valedictorian or salutatorian
hm

>>78081848
If people are dicks to you. YOu are suppose to be a dick back.
Great morale.
Somebody give this man an award.

>>78081848
The bully is smart enough to be valedictorian but we're supposed to believe he ends up a janitor at McDonalds?

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>>78081848
>>78081897

>this guy was a cunt to me
>SO THEN I WAS A CUNT BACK
>I still have the moral victory tho

#art

>>78081912
I wasn't either, I was 'volunteered' to tell jokes. So being on stage doesn't necessarily mean that you were the best student around. Though I'm sure Zen meant for him to be valedictorian.

>>78081897
SOme are good.
There's just not that many because women aren't funny.

>>78081926
It's fucking hilarious when you compare it to his other comic where not giving money to the homeless means you literally have hate-causing brain tumors. I do mean literally. Requiring surgery and shit.

>>78081256

Hey, if the bullies didn't want to get mauled, they shouldn't have started shit. They should've thought about this before.

"They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind",

The bullies brought it on themselves

>>78081848
>>78081897
Someone should tell this Zenpencils guy that just because the person you're being an asshole is also an asshole doesn't all of a sudden make you not an asshole.

>>78081952
He looks like a skinny Linkara.

Is Linkara the nega-Lovecraft?

>>78081848

Are we supposed to believe that the quarterback, class president, and supposedly valedictorian ended up as a Janitor while the scrawny shit who seems to have achieved nothing somehow made his way into Harvard? let alone became successful?

>>78082011
Really, it just makes you a bigger fucking asshole, and an insecure cunt who never managed to get over high school.

>>78081967
I haven't seen one.

>>78081848

Just wait until we run of out oil/a solar flare comes

>>78078560
Loss?

>>78082018
Welcome to Atop the Fourth-Dimensional Zigguraut, where bad Niggers burn!
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?

>>78081848
>football player, valedictorian, class president
>ends up a janitor at mcdonald's

Is Zenpencil's tired? Because that's quite a bit of stretching he's doing.

>>78082020
This. Bully should be in Harvard for being good football player instead

>>78082038
But that's his target audience.

>>78082038
Yeah, it's like, great, not only are you an asshole, but you're also petty and vindictive. Good job.

>>78082094
I can't argue with that.

>Implying that being a janitor is something shameful

Geez that Zenpencil guy is a real asshole

>>78082070
I can only assume something like this happened to him when he was younger and can't get over the resentment he has over the, possibly, now senator of his state.

>>78081926
>If people are dicks to you. YOu are suppose to be a dick back

I don't see the problem with this.

>>78082138
That's another good fucking point. Who the fuck wants to walk a dirty, sticky floor? Somebody has clean up that shit!

>>78082162
It would ok from a guy who has normal morality but Zenpencil is a fucking hypocrite

>>78081848
even leaving aside the fact that the valedictorian/football player/class president wasn't traditionally successful,
>being an asshole to janitors

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>>78082198

>>78081952
The stand up comedian one is accurate, though. You need to know how to handle hecklers if you want to succeed.

>>78081967
The worse ones are the annoying ones that's entire schtick is "Look at me, I'm a woman being gross like a guy!".

>>78082052
Maria Bamford is pretty good.

>>78082138
Plus janitors make ok money.

>>78081233

Holy fuck that faggot never got bullied IRL that for sure, one thing I have learned in all my years of schooling is that peoples are pathetic cowards, as long as you'll leave them do it they will enjoy making your life utter shit, since its their entertainment. My entire fucking school life I was treated like shit, but because of school boards and my stupid ass mother who always told me that "Violence is bad!!1!", that punching back would make me as bad as them, that they would eventually "move on" so I just soldiered on. Let me tell you, IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK. For as long as I soldiered on, peoples simply used me as a punching bag for any fucking reason available, to the point that I couldn't even read a fucking book alone without getting some insulting comments about it. I reacted, they laughed at me, I didn't react, they'd found a way to turn my lack of actions into something to be laughed of. It was hell.

The very moment I blew a fuse and threw the one little shit who was especially insistent ( 3 fucking year I had tolerated the little shit, 3 FUCKING YEARS of being treated like shit everyday, of entering the school as a pariah for reasons I had absolutely no control on) head first against the wall, nearly going forward and beating the ever-living shit out of him(but stopped myself as he pleaded me not to kick his punk ass) thing suddenly went for the best! For the first time in years, peoples didn't say any fucking comments as I walked past them. For the first time, peoples who never even lifted their fingers to help me we're all over me, calling me cool and stuff. Fucking pathetic cowards.

Violence is necessary when your opponent simply have no interesting in pourparler, it fucking suck, nobody want to do it, but it gotta be done. Else you'll just get crushed under the heels of those who do not give a fuck about being decent.

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>>78082211
>Zen Pencils was a mistake

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>>78080934
>the laughing crows are black people

ya know, you might be on to something

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>>78082236

>>78081909

It can happen. The real world doesn't give a shit about your glory in High School. And even a degree isn't a guarantee that you can get a decent job

>>78081897
>both of the hecklers are pig-faced white dude stereotypes
Surely that was a coincidence.

>>78082236
How dare he include Miyazaki in this.

>>78081848

There was a fair amount of jocks in med school and the residency is full of bullies.

>>78082198
>hatred breeds hatred

But people on tumblr told me that "hate breeds hate" is what assholes say to justify shutting down people whose opinions they don't want to hear... oh.

>>78082211
>>WORST. PILOT. EVER.
If he felt the need to get that close to his target, then yeah, he's pretty bad.

>>78082258
It can, but that's a fucking unlikely scenario. Whatever you want to believe as a kid, it takes fucking effort to be recognized as those things in school and you are not likely to lose that drive and ambition.

>>78082253
>not the edit

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>>78081203
>>78081218

This ruined that quote for me

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>>78082211
>The A in A.R.T. stands for Artist

HOW CREATIVE

>>78082258
But at least assholes like that often are some low managers in corp

>>78082301
I don't have it, and I'm very sorry.

>>78082253
>Hip Hop
I would puke aswell.
But anyway. I don't even think Miyasaki would share his opinion. I fhe knew about this he would laugh about Zenpencil

>>78078448
When he was 9 years old he was sexually molested by an office park.

>>78082326
your loss

>>78082011
>just because the person you're being an asshole is also an asshole doesn't all of a sudden make you not an asshole.

That doesn't seem to stop the majority of posts on 4Chan. Why should Zen be held to a standard 4Channers clearly don't hold themselves to?

>>78082211
>hipster street musician dies
>seinfeld rip off stand up comedian dies
>some twit on their laptop in public dies
>an entire class of performing arts students dies
>we're supposed to think these things are bad for some reason

>>78081998
In high school my PE teacher told us to be nice to the weirdos or they'll bring guns to school and kill you. Good advice

>>78082236
using that rosevelt quote out of context.
really?

>>78082346
I have absolutely no idea what you're even trying to say. Do you actually take things you read here seriously?

>>78082193

How so?

I hate seeing people praise him. All he does is make a comic about a quote that doesn't really match up the quote.

>>78082346
We're not trying to 'change the world' or some bullshit like that. We're just wasting time.

>>78082198
>Get ready to be mad.

Why? He's right on the money

>>78081082
Well, to be fair, why the fuck was Lovecraft the face of their fantasy awards?

I mean, fuck's sake, even from the time period he's in there are better people to use. Like Robert E. Howard.

>>78082410
The quote could be like "Be nice to everyone" and he'd draw a comic about how some kind pants him when he was 12 in front of the girl he liked and how he makes SERIOUS ART for a living that changes people's lives because artists are superior and people who work 9-to-5 jobs to pay for things like "food" or "a roof over their heads" are just sheeple and not as smart as him.

>>78078355
I remember someone made an edits of Zen Comics with quotes from Wint. Do any of you guys have it?

>>78082236
>>78082253
My favorite thing about this is that Miyazaki himself is a SCATHING critic on top of being an accomplished artist.

>>78082450
Right about what? Criticism is bad? Killing internet trolls is a worthy endeavour?

>>78082468
For a man that uses the word "Zen" for his comic, he does seem to have an excessive amount of violent fantasies and pent up hatred.

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Hahaha this is so bad

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>>78081848

>>78082461
You can't deny his skill at writing. The man did create an entire genre of horror.

>>78082297

There's a guy at one of my gas stations who used to bully me. And he was class president and football star

Now he's fat and bald

>>78082531
Yep, now it makes sense.

>>78082536
he wasn't that good of a writer

>>78082529
Its obvious that he's like Dobson and can't let go of his middle/high school bullies.

>>78082346
>4Channers

Just kill yourself

>>78082303

Pussy

>>78082530
Do you have the one where he gives this treatment to Louis CK's "you used amazing on a basket of fries" bit?

Because it's not meant to be an inspiring or life-affirming bit. It's anabashedly misanthropic and spiteful and petty. He works in calling some woman he's never met a fucking cunt and says he hopes she fucking dies of cancer a bit later in the bit. All because he has an irrational hatred of random strangers talking like idiots, and he worked it into a comedy bit.

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>>78082536
When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.

>>78082574
How do you miss the point this fucking hard?

Is the author happy? Does he look back on his work and feel pride? Is he aware of what a giant douche he is?

>>78082337
>molested by an office park
Eh?

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>>78082530
>the person who holds down a steady job and owns a house is the bad guy
>the crazy man who shouts at people and sleeps on a park bench is the one who has things figured out

>>78081233

>Walt Whitman

I can't take that name seriously thanks to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG6wkRQ4f2g

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>>78082591
Well, this is one where he didn't seem to fuck up the context. But I don't know why he used it in the first place.

>>78082384

Im saying that 4Chan routinely does the exact same thing that Zen here is being shat on for. Yet it's somehow not okay in his case.

That easy enough to understand?

>>78082625
He achieved his dream of churning out mediocre bullshit using other people's words without permission and living comfortably on that.

The man clearly doesn't challenge himself as an artist. The only time he ever tried to emulate another person's style was when he illustrated Watterson's quote. Every other comic is in the exact same stagnant style.

>>78082645
I can't think of a better explanation for his rabid hatred of white-collar business. It's like he's unaware that there are people who actually enjoy making their living like that. CPAs and travel agents and such.

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>>78082609

>>78082574
This has to be satire. There's no way somebody is this fucking stupid.

>>78082684
no, he fucked up the context pretty hard

>>78082690
No. We aren't trying to inspire anyone. We just want to call you a faggot nigger and masturbate.

>>78082506

He's right that people act like shit online.

>>78082661

He's not a bad guy. He helped the park guy with money.

And the park guy doesn't have IT ALL figured out, he needs money.

>>78082706
Well fuck does he at least realize what a giant douche he is?

>>78082684
By featuring it in a comic called "Zen Pencils" you are fucking up the context. Louis CK is pretty unequivocally cynical and misanthropic and self-loathing in his act. He's the last person you'd look for an inspiring quote from, when it comes to his stand-up.

>>78082706
I can't honestly believe there are people who enjoy being a CPA

>>78082390
just read his comics

>>78082684
>a Louis CK comic
Zen confirmed for cvck.

>>78082574
This is terrifying, wtf

>>78080969
>/r/getmotivated, I'm assuming, has a completely different attitude from OP.
Almost all of the comments had identical attitudes to this thread, bashing the comic. The subreddit mods actually locked the thread because it was getting too negative.

>>78082575
I`ve read his books in spanish and I think that the written,wasn`t so good and sometimes even mediocre, but I tough it was because the translation.

>>78082740
Douches tend to not realize that they're douches.

>>78082745
They're gigantic nerds who enjoy playing with numbers. The CPA my mom moonlights with during tax season loves the shit out of his job. He's a balding mustachioed geek with a big Star Trek poster in his office.

>>78082779
he created some scary stuff, but the actual prose was weak

kind of like Tolkien in that regard

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>>78081952

>>78082531
100% accurate

>>78082575
He really wasn't, but he had big ideas and he was unmistakably important in the formative years of pulp sci-fi and fantasy. He influenced a lot of writers.

Also, yeah, really really racist. I honestly think it's fine that a little-known fantasy literature award stopped using his face for their little trophy.

>>78082236
The real miyazaki would hate that robot

>>78082779
He was no poet, but I'm sure the translation hurt the story. He did paint very vivid pictures with what he implied through his words.

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>>78079101
>dobson
>joke
I don't even know what's real any more

>>78082580

And what are you gonna do if I DON'T?

My point is not only quite valid, it's exceptionally so.

Youre condemning someone for doing the exact same thing that you are. The hypocrisy in this thread is astounding

>>78082575
He was 50/50 most of the time. He had some great pieces, like Color Out of Space, and then there was crap he just wrote for the paycheck, like the Re-animator.

>>78082861
0/10
Apply yourself.

>>78082591
>It's anabashedly misanthropic and spiteful and petty. He works in calling some woman he's never met a fucking cunt and says he hopes she fucking dies of cancer a bit later in the bit.

So in other words, acting like 4Chan

>>78082861
the difference is we're not trying to pass ourselves off as inspirational using other people's words

>>78082828
The real Miyazaki would give zero shits about a monster attacking.

>>78082684
Is this an edit or real?

I don't fucking get it

>>78082866
Re-animator wasn't really crap.

>>78080733
the crow got a hat...This is my favourite part??

drilpencils was the greatest thing

>>78082781
I'm surprised the internet hasn't made him aware. Dobson gets shat on with the force of a million assholes, while zenpencil is living a pretty solid life. And I think they're both equal douches, but at least Dobson isn't just pseudointellectual preachings.

>>78082531
I lost it.

>>78082684

So... Amazing is a word that can only be used in rigidly certain situations?

What credentials does Louis CK have that makes HIM entitled to when and where an adjective is justifiable?

>>78082947
he's really just bitching that people jump to hyperbole at the first chance and this takes away from the word

it's like literally

>>78082915
That's because Zen gets praise from a bunch of people who think his comics are the greatest thing ever.

>>78082905
It wasn't his best, and he did hate it and only wrote it for the pay.

>>78082746

No, I'm asking YOU.

And while we're at it, show me why you think it's your place to pass such judgement

>>78082984
That is certainly true.

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>>78082995
>No, I'm asking YOU.
Read his fucking comics, faggot.

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>>78082574

>>78082981
>there are people who literally think zenpencils is the greatest comic ever written

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>>78082530
I felt the overwhelming urge to do this.

>>78082211
>asian person actually coloured yellow.

shit's racist yo.

>>78083013
Hurrah for brainwashing!

>>78082891
The real Miyazaki would be the monster

>>78082995
>All his comics are about working hard to your goals
>Succesful hard wokring people are depicted as evil

>His comics are about that you can't laugh at poor people etc
>The pun of comic is that guy ends up as janitor

>>78083013
.>>privilege
Get fucked.

>>78082684
>Really?
>Really?

Oh, the irony

>>78083055
The real Miyazaki would have killed Zenpencils by now.

>>78082609
>>78082536
I think my favorite Lovecraft work is the dream quest
Its has fucking fantastic sensory descriptions and is super imaginative
But in the story Lovecraft's self insert has a cat called "Niggerman". Who saves the main character from alien slavers by leading a literal army of cats from the moon

>>78082574
Bunch of Heretic bastards.
Only the church of Freddie Mercury is the right choice.

>>78082947
the joke is that freaking out about hyperboling words is a hyperbole in itself

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>>78083013
>not caring about colorectal health

>>78083100
Niggerman showed up in a few stories. He was also in The Rats In The Walls.

My favorite story was The Music of Eric Zann. It's like if The Devil Went Down to Georgia dropped acid and the stakes were the continued existence of the entire fucking multi-verse.

>>78083097
The real Miyazaki would have killed all of us by now

>>78083013
This one really pisses me off.

We're on the edge on a Liberal fascist movement where you're now getting told what to think and how to act. I'm not saying prejudices and that shit is good however can't we all just laugh at these morons instead of forcing them to think in a manner they don't want to?

Ironically I'm prejudice against massive far lefties, but I wouldn't force them to change their life/perspective.

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>>78083119
DON'T STOP ME NOW! I'M HAVING A GOOD TIME!

WHO WANTS TO LIVE FOREVER!?

ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!!!

>>78083153
Yeah, love craft was really fucking great at tying his stories together and havign repeating characters naturally
Really you have to read a good amount of his stuff to get all the references in some of his more ambitious stories

Also a dream of mine is to make an animated version of the Festival because its such a great little story with a lot of visual potential

>>78083181
It's kind of already happened. Terrorists kill 14 people in America and the only thing that people want to get angry over is one crazy fucker daring to simply SAY that maybe we shouldn't trust the people who keep murdering folks.

>Slaughter people
Now now, let's not be bigots. Plz, no hate crimes ;_;

>Say something mean
YOU ARE WORSE THAN FUCKING HITLER!!!

Trump is a faggot, but seriously, can we have some motherfucking perspective here?

>>78083231
Damn, I don't remember that one off the top of my head. I may not have read that. I'll have to do that later.

>>78083100
His dream cycle had some great stuff. There was also the one about Carter unlocking the secret of transcendence and ends up getting himself stuck as a freaky alien.

>>78083153
That is also a good one.

Winston Rowntree is much worse

i actually hate zenpencils cause i do like seeing the quotes/poetry on occasion and have to usually disassociate with the art

>>78083181

Self examination is like never bad. the context of zen pencils is making you hate the quote.

>>78083235

saying he is saying similar things to hitler isn't an exaggeration, it's a legit descriptor.

>>78083286
Fair, but this isn't a Winston Rowtree thread.

>>78081014
>>78080933
>>78081022
>>78081082
Lovecraft was way more than racist.
He was terrified of everything remotely strange and different to him.
He was scared of dogs, sea life, and even penguins.
H.P. Lovecraft was scared of fucking salad.
He lived on a diet of candy and canned beans which possibly lead him to hallucinate from malnutrition.

This shit is why he was so great at writing horror. To him, everything was horror and he just wrote what he saw.

>>78083235
I just don't want my country to bend over backwards for immigrants when there are citizens that still need help.

>>78083299
>saying he is saying similar things to hitler isn't an exaggeration, it's a legit descriptor.
Yeah, what with all those Trump Brand concentration camps and Trumpklon Z chambers.

OH FUCKING WAIT.

>>78083119
wrong its sabbath its always sabbath

>>78083323
Huh. Things suddenly make a lot more sense.

>>78083119
>>78083186
Now open your books to Bowie 3:11
"Pressure pushing down on me
Pressing down on you, no man ask for"

>>78083026
I don't get it. The business guy pooped in his cup?

>>78083323
I was wondering why he wrote about scary penguins.

>>78083328
Hitler didn't jump straight to the concentration camps, numbnuts

he played off people's fears of an Abrahamic religion to gain power, all while encouraging and condoning violence by his own followers against these people

he kept these followers of an Abrahamic religion on a list, and made them wear identifiers.

he prevented them from immigrating or emigrating

THEN he sent them to concentration camps

>>78081233
How is he not expelled a kid at my school got expelled for bringing a kitchen knife to school let alone using it

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>>78082216
There was an attempt to bully me once. Without warning I just hit bully in the face with needle of my divider and stopped inches from his eye by pure luck. Suddenly bullied no more.

>>78083379
Yes. The joke is poop. Poop is funny.

>>78082236
Why is Miyazaki the chief defender?

>>78081082
Wasn't Lovecraft pretty repentant and ashamed of much of his racist views by the end of his life? Give the guy points for trying.

Plus, he named his beloved cat Niggerman. That's beautiful.

>>78082684
I think I'd be scared that Jesus came into my house and impregnated me.

>>78083492
Because zen guy is stupid and doesn't care about context for the quotes he steals, nor about who the people he references actually are.

>>78083492
Because Zen thinks Miyazaki is the number 1 creative person in the world.

>>78083434
How are the bullies not expelled for beating the kid that bad?

Schoolyard ruckus may be one thing, but that's the type of beating that even lazy schools would get around to dealing with. Or at least fuel for local news media to do a report on.

>>78083497
I don't know for certain, but I really sincerely doubt that.

>>78082558
and your boss

>>78083497
Either way, he's no more racist than the average middle class white guy of his time and really his iconic works are no more racist than the pulp novels and serials of his time.
He just had the misfortune to have his racism down in writing