Who's the absolute most powerful mutant /co/?
I have an contender, but I want to know what you think.
I don't think you understand the scale of what we're dealing with.
Well Bendis's run ended with a dude who was explicitly said to be the most powerful mutant jn existence.
Problem is, he didn't exactly have any feats to back this claim up, in comparison to Vulcan, let alone Franklin "I made a universe twice before my balls dropped" Richards.
He would have to be alive for that to happen. And Reed would have to be wrong, and that's not happening because that would also require him to be alive so he can explain why he isn't actually wrong.
Franklin Richards is the kid of Sue and Reed Richards, who is basically a reality warper.
Hyperstorm is from an alternate universe, the son of Franklin Richards and Rachel Grey (a Phoenix Force host).
X-Man is basically Cable without the Robot stuff, said to be the most powerful non-Phoenix Telekinetic on the planet.
Squirrel Girl can win any fight, as long as its a joke.
I think you "this"ed the wrong post.
Everyone knows that Matthew Malloy is the most powerful Mutant.
Beast even described him as "beyond OMEGA".
Thats just ridiculously.
But i think it doesnt matter what she is.
Dont care enough.
Even if she is a squirrel that got terrigenmist`ed.
Or her mother was bestialityed by an inhuman, aka she is now the daughter of Buttercup the squirrel and Black Bolt.
Darwin is pretty cool though.
>Oh no, I'm hurt - whatever can I do.
>Lol jk I'm fine.
Yes he was. It was quite an interesting concept of evolution for X-universe.
But his adapting without time or any real negatives makes him for storytelling too OP.
I liked him on X-factor. He felt good in the book. Since X-factor was more like detective setting.
funny thing is he got lighter with time.
Never thought about it.
But you rascism makes horrifying sense, kinda.
He evolved into white skin.
Also, Franklin's cool, but I hate how casuals hype him up.
>lol Franklin caught Galactus like a Pokemon, he so cool XD
>M-Muh BEYOND Omega Classification
He's absurdly powerful. But it helps to know that Legion and The Marquis of Death, among others, are easily on par with him.
Half of the Omega Mutants have made the universe, and reality by proxy their bitch.
It triggers me almost as much as people who think Jaspers was a mutant.
Its always an race of power with omega mutants.
As a writer you need a real threat, son you have to come up with equal beings.
Oh i thought Jasper is a mutant. Didnt know that.
And yes, reality warping is the strongest powerset you can come up with.
>Oh i thought Jasper is a mutant. Didn't know that.
Let me reiterate, Earth-238 Jaspers is a mutant.
His Earth-616 version is not IIRC. He's got a brain tumor that gives hi his powers.
616 Jaspers is far stronger BTW.
Official Mutant Power Rankings
>David Haller (Legion)
>Mad Jim Jaspers
>Jean Grey (w/ Phoenix)
Containable (w/ Extreme Effort) Tier
>Jean Grey (w/o Phoenix)
It's been a while. But I remember reading something about Jaspers having a mutated brain or something of the like.
Every source says he's a mutant, but I don't remember it ever being outright stated, only assumed.
Jaspers is a strange character.
He was beaten when he was thrown into a plane of existence with apparently no reality to manipulate.
Except for the fact that Jasper's BODY ITSELF is a part of reality.
But the writers probably thought it wasn't enough.
Fantastic Four brat is the most powerful mutie. He sent the Avengers and Fantastic Four to the Heroes Reborn universe where they were re created by Liefeld and Lee, and then he brought them back
This. He's too fucking powerful.
Legion's the only Mutant who shattered the Fourth Wall and also Wiped Himself out of existence on a whim - because he was fed up with life.
During that point - he existed outside of Time and Space as concepts while observing the entirety of Time personified as a tree system (Pic Related)
He's also the only mutant who literally generates powers spontaneously. In an issue of X-Men Legacy (248 I think) Rogue claimed that he was creating new powers "all the time" after temporarily absorbing a bunch of his own.
There's also that one time he casually stuck the 616 Marvel universe into a box that one time his Brain made him a Big Sister.
To be more specific, it was that new Big Sister Personality - Moira who did it for him, while reshaping the rest of existence into the Age of X (not Apocalypse) reality.
Legion is too fucking absurd because he's explicitly stated (multiple times, once by Dr. Nemesis in New Mutant vol 3.) to have no limits.
The strongest mutant is obviously Onslaught c'mon!! X-man and Cable are probably close second.
Please be joking.
>inb4 I was merely pretending.
But it doesn't make sense because she used to be ashamed of being a mutant and now she's ashamed of something new and pretending to be a mutant.
They reversed it for no good reason.
I'd say say Scarlet Witch but she's not a mutant anymore either huh...
I dunno. Maybe >>78018744
Literally half of all the Omega Level Mutants would make Galactus their bitch.
Jaspers, Legion and Marquis could all easily do it.
Vulcan. He's like a walking Deus Ex Machina. He only died because he got blown up by Black Bolt's bomb that ripped a whole in space-time, which caused the Cancerverse to leak through. And he might not even be dead.
But they have the rights to her and they can't call her a mutant in the movies and they probably don't want to call her one in Ultimate Spider-Man so here we are preemptively changing what she is.
BTW, Onslaught's not even a mutant. He's the result of the dark aspects of two mutants - but onslaught himself is a psychic entity. But you should've known that.
If it also helps - Onslaught needed Franklin Richards and Nate grey for the raw power needed for his little plan.
Mainly because Onslaught's a little bitch.
Also Hyperstorm, Mr. M, Jean Grey (Phoenix), and a bunch of other mutants would shitstomp Onslaught.
Mr. M will definitely have trouble against Galactus, but Hyperstorm and Jean Grey can easily beat him.
For perspective, Hyperstorm was tricked into being an Infinite Energy source for Galactus by Reed Richards.
>Mad Jim Jaspers
>Jean Grey (Phoenix)
>Marquis of Death
>Possibly Mr. M
So combined that's around 6 mutants who could hand Galactus his soft Purple ass on a Cosmic stick.
I seem to recall Trion Juggernaut being pretty insanely powerful, but then he's not
technically a mutant
While you're correct that Onslaught is merely the psychic combination of the dark conscience of Professor X and Magneto, he is turned into a physical form of their psyche and therefore is a mutant. He's a mutant of two minds in one put into a physical form. The dark aspects of two mutants are simply of mutants. He's a combo of mutants. 1 mutant +1 mutant = mutant. He did need both those guys for their raw power but he was able to capture Frank Richards and the kid couldn't do anything about it. But you may be right that X-,man is stronger
This gets my vote. When you have someone who can control everything and create universes, you can pretty much outbullshit any other bullshit.
Pure power I would say he has it.
I don't know about most powerful but definitely tops the list of impossible to kill.
>All these Franklin Richards fanboys
Jean Grey is the most powerful mutant. She is the White Phoenix of the Crown. She is dead while at the same time alive. She wipes out universes just because her waifu Scott is having a shitty day.
On the genetic level, they're the same, but Nate is a lot younger and doesn't have the TO-Virus holding him down. Plus even if you're the same genetically, there's still the alt-universe wonkiness that can alter things.
Marquis "fight" Against Doom.
Look at one of the people he brings to fight Doom.
Marquis (and Clyde his "other half") were able to summon and control Cosmic Abstracts like Infinity - who are far above the Celestials IIRC.
Young Franklin's greatest feat is manipulating the Universe, and Creating a Pocket/Small Universe as a kid.
Adult Franklin's greatest feat is fighting the Celestials (who're also no Joke)
Clyde Wyncham was forced to create his own version of a shit ton of beings (including Galactus) in order to fight the Marquis (who was casually creating his own version of abstracts like Infinity)
People don't like to talk about Marquis because:
1 - they don't know him
2 - they think his plot-based jobbing to "DOOOOOOM" has any merit.
As for someone like Legion.
It's already been explained in this thread. But he's a tier above everyone else.
Solely because of his last feat during Simon Spurrier's run of X-Men Legacy (vol 2.)
The man casually broke the 4th wall and gave the readers a quick word.
>David Haller (Legion)
>Marquis of Death
>Mad Jim Jaspers
>Jean Grey (w/ Phoenix)
Containable (w/ Extreme Effort) Tier
>Jean Grey (w/o Phoenix)
I'm pretty sure one of them is Molecule Man (Owen) like you said.
The woman I have no idea.
o hi there owen long time
couldn't help myself inb4 Bendis pls
Is that Sentry's most famous feat.
Not impressive, but famous. Cause that's usually what everyone goes to first.
I originally put in in there because some Phoenix fanboys will claim that Jean and the Phoeni are the same, etc.
Also stating that Jean's full power is only realized with the Phoenix (which isn't true).
Jean and Rachel aren't that powerful compared to others on this list (without the Phoenix force)
Being equal to most of Earth's heroes and mutants combined in Rogue and stopping Exitar tops that imho.
Even if people hate it it's not that far-fetched though. Bob won't affect the universe on any scale comparable to Owen, but his own body and place of focus - total power. Not as silly as people think.
You mean the Collective? I don't remember Rogue doing that.
That same Collective (Michael Pointer) casually BRF'd Sentry away (though he quickly came back IIRC)
Owen is far more powerful than Sentry. I chalk this up to Sentry wanking.
As for most Powerful Mutant? Mimic technically is if he's able to retain al the powers he's exposed too (not just the 5 he got from the O5 X-Men and Professor X)
Nope, I was talking about the Uncanny Avengers finale with Horseman of Death Bob. Yeah but there extensive and intensive power. Sentry wanking is quite pleasant sometimes, we don't get enough crazy power feats in Marvel.
As for Mimic - it's like saying Absorbing Man is the most powerful entity, there is surely a limit to Mimic's copying capability.
I honestly doubt that he does.
He's used to mimicking powers while still retaining the 6 he permanently has stored.
Even if that were true -the fact that he can even copy abilities is broken. He's like Protege if you remember him.
That's how Power Mimics work - you only beat them if you have more experience.
Oh and Mimic's power works on literally ANYONE, not just Mutant signatures - so he's automatically better than Hope Summers.
Fortunately he also absorbs knowlege and skills as well as powers.
I can name everyone excwept the pale guy who stole Scott's shades, the lady in pink standing next to Loa, the red Omega symbol guy behind Omega Sentinel, the purple guy behind Storm and the girl hugging Chamber.
Protege was op as fuark. But that fucking Celestial that no one knows where to put in cosmic hierarchy though.
So Mimic is really broken, but I assume he's a recent creation? From what you say he really has a potential of an omnipotent being, much more so than the best Adaptoids in Hickman's run.
Power Mimicry is far more broken than Power Absoprtion.
Mainly because it's quicker, and has better stackability. Especially if it's proximity based.
All forms of Power Absorption are touch-based, whereas Mimicry is usually dictated by distance.
Also, if they're one of those Mimics who PERMANENTLY retains every ability they come across, then they're virtually unstoppable.
Hence Protege - who copied the Fucking Living Tribunal.
I wanna see a DS Sentry Solo where he goes on cosmic adventures and teams up with a revived Genis-Vell as Legacy. Definitely in the Avengers Forever outfit. Buddy Cop Cosmic Crazyguy Space Adventures.
no the same anon but wut ?
He is literally the first member of the x-men after O5, started as a villain but then became an x-men.
that is all i know about his 616 counterpart, he is well known because an alternative reality of him was the protagonist of exiles, a comic that run for 100 issues.
>So Mimic is really broken, but I assume he's a recent creation?
Nope. He's one of Marvel's older characters.
Mimic is literally the very first Mutant who came to the Xavier School after the Original X-Men were formed (those 5).
Because he spent so much time around them, Mimic permanently acquired their powers.
>Beasts' Intellect and Physiology (Controllable)
>Professor X's Telepathy
He also temporarily copies the powers of everyone around him, as well as skills and memories.
He's never really been used in stories much, besides Osborne's X-Men. He's also best friends with Omega - who used to be the Collective, and is equally OP power-wise.
The only reason Mimic isn't rulling the world - is because the Powers come and go. With the exception of the 6 stated above, all of Mimics abilities leave as he gets out of distance from his targets.
However, he does have the ability to retain powers as we've obviously seen If he learns how to permanently store every power - then he's unbeatable by everyone short of Legion, Omega, Franklin, MoD, and other heavy hitters.
Educate me my man.
Who are these people and Why should I care?
I have been thinking, the solicitation for uncanny x-men 2 (magneto x-men in January) say a character that we thought we will never see again will join the team.
One of my option is mimic, the other is x-man, he never went back to his reality.
other than these 2 i have run out of characters.
But Hope is a shitty character pham.
She's a poor man's Mimic.
If Hope and Mimic (both mutants) had a kid - would they have the same power? Would the kid copy their parents from birth?
Count me in bro. After Uncanny Avengers ended there was a rumor that Remender liked writing Sentry so much that he wanted to do a solo mini-series, called "Rising Sun" or something alike, with Bob dealing with crazy cosmic shit as half-Apocalypse. But no, we got ANAD and Niggers in Space instead.
>Still using arbitrary titles to describe mutants.
>Not posting their actual feats for comparison
smfh tbqh pham
Vulcan didn't seem all that powerful. He was about even with black bolt while black bolt was holding back. Is there any explanation why he couldn't heal his eye after Gladiator punched him?
>User becomes stronger, faster, more durable, etc. by war and all forms of conflict including mental, physical, spiritual and conceptual ones, regardless of the area and numbers involved, possibly unlocking abilities related to the affinity and enhancing the existing powers. Some users may be able draw sustenance from the conflicts or even slow or stop aging.
>Orbital Force Manipulation
>One with Orbital Force Manipulation could create spiraling shields, vacuums, hurl items, induce explosions, or even manipulate ones position in time and space. Some users transcend the gravitational confines and become masters of the circle itself able to control any form of revolution or rotation.
They call me the Circlejerk.
Everyone gets defeated by the nature of plot - what's your point?
Jaspers was beaten by the Fury - something which would rape Onslaught a thousand times over.
MoD was beaten by the combined efforts of his alternate self (Clyde) and an amped up Fantastic Four
Mr. M essential let himself die.
Jean Grey is a mess, but died due to the nature of her powers.
You're taking their "defeats" out of context. They're still far more powerful than most characters in fiction.
Maybe not in the movies, but we still have AoS. Or Damage Control even. (Or she'll be Danielle's nanny in Defenders). What other role could they have met up with this girl for?
At first I was going to say Franklin Richards because he created an entire universe just while playing around but then I realized that the real answer is Jack Kirby because he created several universes.
Is Hyperstorm confirmed for being a mutant, or are we just assuming that because of Franklin?
Sinister kind of implies it, but it's not really anything definite.