All the people I've killed by letting you live.

>>77792195
What did he mean by this?

>>77792195
The Punisher was literally *this* close to blowing the Joker's brains out, and Batman literally jumped in and saved the Joker's life.

True story. Google it.

>>77792351
different batman, different joker

>>77792195
I still do not understand why the responsibility is directed against Batman. He's just the one that captures the Joker and prevents him from doing other shit like a fucking cop.

It's not his job to kill the Joker. That a responsibility of the legal system. If the legal system of Gotham does not work because we're in a fucking comic, well, that's a different matter.

>>77792612
None of this is Batman's fucking "job" He isn't obligated to do ANYTHING, not even catch criminals. So that excuse means fucking nothing dude.

>That's a responsibility of the legal system
Obviously. Just like catching the Joker is a responsibility of the police.

>>77792195
just think of all the people he's saved by letting superman live
or all the people he's had sex with by letting catwoman live
How can someone be this full of themselves?

>>77792645
He wants to help, he has a desire for power and control, and has a lot of money... so he has the tools to be relevant

yes, he's a idiot, but an helpful idiot. The only way to be tolerated "is to move within the law".

bruce previously found murder to be not only abhorrent but also psychologically compromising. he can barely point a gun at someone, much less kill them with it. but now, in this era of distant sanity, he believes he has the courage to kill.

>>77792195
Batman doesnt kill Joker for the same reason Goku doesnt kill Vegeta because the franchise needs the villain characters.

>>77792645
Technically speaking...cops don't have to do a damned thing except protect the rights of government types.
No seriously.
They have no responsibility to protect people.

>>77792612
>That a responsibility of the legal system.
Not even that.
The real question is why NOBODY ELSE has killed the Joker.
Why hasn't the corrupt police killed the biggest cop-killer in history?
Why hasn't the mafia put a million dollar bounty on his head?
Why haven't any corrupt Arkham Guards killed him?
Why haven't other Gotham villains, who hates his fucking guts, killed him?
Why haven't any of other other super-villains he's pissed off, including Lex luthor Gorilla Grodd, Sivana, Ras Al Ghul and others, killed him?
Why haven't any of the loved ones of his victims killed him?
Why hasn't the Spectre killed him?

We need to stop blaming Batman and blame everyone

>>77792612
He saved his life and brought him back from the dead more then once.
The man is canonically responsible for every single death that happened after he saved him.
He knows that he's a dangerously unstable lunatic and that arkham is a revolving door and gotham is damned.
And yet he lets him live and lets him kill again and again and again. Even wastes time protecting him and those monsters in arkham rather then protecting people on the street.
How many people have died while he flew half way across the goddamned world to bring joker back from the dead.
I'm dead fucking serious.
The man is an unstable lunatic that's caused more harm then good.

>>77792858
>We need to stop blaming Batman and blame everyone
>blame everyone

Dude, its in our nature to blame our problems on someone else. Why the fuck would we ever take responsibility for ourselves, nobody does.

>>77792897

Manchild or just European?

>>77792858
Because Batman saves him every time. And Batgod is unbeatable when he has to save his waifu.

NO MORE

>>77792952
>Because Batman saves him every time
So do all of Joker's doctors. Dude's been hospitalized dozens of times.

>>77792941
>implying there's a difference

>>77792980

True

>>77792974
Imagine what batgod would do to them if they let the Joker die.

>>77792974
Batman or Harley will fuck them up if they let the joker die. Most people want nothing to do with their insane terrifying little costume party and just do their jobs keep their heads down and hope that they can earn enough money to get out of that litteral hell and go somewhere safer.
Like mexico, rape em in the ass mississippi, or detroit.

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He only wants to protect that smile.

>>77792995
have they gone anywhere with the thing about Batgod being confused by the Joker's real name?

>>77792351
>mentions very known crossover like it's some obscure shit
>true story
Go back to 9gag you fucking faggot.

>>77793070
He took Joe Chill out of prison tortured him and made him forget all about it before placing him back in jail

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>>77792316
/tv/ pls

>>77792195
And then we have this
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s09uPnSZQlnu

Checkmate, atheists

>>77793105
It was obviously pretty obscure to THE PEOPLE I WAS RESPONDING TO, LITERAL RETARD.

Why, do you feel super special for already knowing all about it without having to be told?

Dipshit.

>>77792439
Oh, no fucking shit, you don't say?

Not in the same cartoon, huh? A different one? Wowie-gee!

No, seriously, GREAT GALLOPING GHOSTS, brah!

You fucking idiot nitpickers are just outing yourselves as non-functional autists.

>>77792858
>>77792612
because the police can't kill him if batman swoops in first and captures him safely.
Because Batman has taken the responsibility upon himself.
Because he actually protected and saved him in many cases.
Because batan promised to himself that he'd stop criminals from murdering innocent people after his own parents were killed, and yet the joker continues to murder innocent people and to cause suffering to their relatives and batman has done nothing to stop him.
Yes, I know the reason the writers don't kill off the joker. But the way it's justified in the story just make batman look like a hypocrite and a self centered asshole who is more concerned with his image of himself than with protecting the people of gotham.

Why does it have to be Bruce killing him?I'd like to see more stuff where Joker's chaos get him into a fatal situation, and Bruce just walks away, leaving him to pay for his own actions. Not unlike Arkham City.

>>77792645

then he has no business actually fighting crime. He's either on the team or he's against it

>>77793020
Don't bring that up, he chucks him in the trash on the next page.

>>77793339

He didn't have to kill but didn't have to save Raz in Begins

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>>77792439
Every time a new writer handles Batman and Joker they can be seen as different characters.

There is no definitive Batman or Joker because everyone has a different approach to them.

>>77793368
That's Ra's, though.

>>77792897
>take responsibility ourselves
>for not killing the joker
What in the actual hell are you trying to say?

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>>77793328
Batman assumes responsibility for the Joker because HE IS responsible for him. He created the Joker.

That's why him not being able to save Joker and later Jason is what he considers to be his two biggest failures.

>>77792836
Incorrect, they don't have a special relationship with any particular member of society barring specific legal obligations. Cops are only required to investigate crime and arrest criminals.

>>77792316
Fucking hell I knew before even opening the thread this was going to be first post.

>>77793491
no. taking responsibility would mean stopping him from killing other people.
but he doesn't care about innocent people. He cares about how he feels about himself.
He's a self centered asshole

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>>77792862
You do know he actually had reasons as to why he bothers to save his life, right? Just like the time he brought him back from using the pits because he actually had info on the location of a bomb and how to stop it? So what, is he just going to leave Joker to die because of the potential lives lost, or allow him to live to ensure the thousands if not more lives will be killed guranteed? He has reasons for keeping him alive dude, read a fucking comic.

>>77792974
Comic book doctors still have that whole Hippocratic "first do no harm" oath. Batman doesn't.

>>77793328
That's absolutely retarded. Batman isn't the one that sentences people to serve time at Blackgate or Arkham. It's the Gotham legal system that does, the judges to be precise considering that the nation's justice system is still separated into branches with different functions.

Its one of those abusive marriages you see all the time. Cant live with em, cant live without them. Bruce just wants to protect that smile while joker wants all his attention (like a damn woman)

>>77792858
>>77792858
>Why hasn't the corrupt police killed the biggest cop-killer in history?
He pays off the corrupt police
>Why hasn't the mafia put a million dollar bounty on his head?
He kills people who put a bounty on his head
>Why haven't any corrupt Arkham Guards killed him?
He pays them off better
>Why haven't other Gotham villains, who hates his fucking guts, killed him?
They might need him one day
>Why haven't any of other other super-villains he's pissed off, including Lex luthor Gorilla Grodd, Sivana, Ras Al Ghul and others, killed him?
They know not to fuck with him because there may be consequences (legit, see the end of infinite crisis)
>Why haven't any of the loved ones of his victims killed him?
They probably aren't smart enough
>Why hasn't the Spectre killed him?
Spectre legit let him off because he was actually crazy or some shit and punishment would be meaningless to him, I forget.

>>77792351
You're on /co/, and you think this is fucking news to us? Were you dropped on your head or are you just naturally this retarded?

>>77792716
He's not moving with with in the law. Being a vigilante is illegal.

>>77792792
Except Vegeta became a good guy and didn't keep coming back and murdering innocent people. He became a good guy not long after that.

>>77794284
Most people who think that Batman is wrong for not being a murdering psychopath usually are one or the other, if not both.

Killing and capes are the worst topics, and yet we keep at it.

>>77793417
That's from Secrets isn't it?

>>77793728
100% correct

>>77792652
>How can someone be this full of themselves?
Bruce's arrogance is usually what ends up screwing him over.

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>comic doesn't want to be edgy by showing their hero or justice system put down a criminal
>but the Joker murdering an infant, boiling its remains, blowing up a hospital, raping a pregnant woman, and then shooting said woman in the stomach, is just fine and not edgy at all

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>>77794440

>>77792858
>The real question is why NOBODY ELSE has killed the Joker.
they had tried
>Why hasn't the corrupt police killed the biggest cop-killer in history?
They had tried. He has people inside the force
>Why hasn't the mafia put a million dollar bounty on his head?
They did when he appearead, then the mafia lost the city to the supervillians
>Why haven't any corrupt Arkham Guards killed him?
They had tried, he had killed several
>Why haven't other Gotham villains, who hates his fucking guts, killed him?
They had tried
>Why haven't any of other other super-villains he's pissed off, including Lex luthor Gorilla Grodd, Sivana, Ras Al Ghul and others, killed him?
The joker is the best way to keep batman far from you, in the joker is free, then batman will be chasing after him.
>Why haven't any of the loved ones of his victims killed him?
They had
>Why hasn't the Spectre killed him?
The source doesnt want to kill hum and the joker is insane, you can't punish insane people

>>77793070
No, Johns is an idiot and tomasi had to fix the shit he did.

>>77793283
>Why, do you feel super special for already knowing all about it without having to be told?

Pleb

>>77794440
There's nothing edgy about killing a villian, and there's nothing good about a hero killing, if you want that just read Marvel. An unbreakeble force of will and respect for life are characteristics of Batman,

>>77792858
Okay but if we're blaming everyone then that means we can blame Batman as well.

>>77792195
>crazy dude crowbars you and blows you up
>dad doesnt even take revenge

>>77793837
Yes. Ultimately the only reason why Batman saves Joker and refuses to kill him time and time again is because of his own selfishness. He knows for a fact that Joker won't stop killing.

>>77794351
vegeta became a bad guy again killed innocents and goku still didn't want to kill him

>>77793328
The cops couldn't kill Joker even if they wanted too
They literally shot him in the head point blank and he still came back

Why are batfags so delusional?

>>77795539
Or he believes life is the most sacred thing in the world? He went to catholic schools, his is prettu much a buddisth monk, killing does not makes sense. I seriously don't get why people that dislike batman even care about him killing or not

>>77795741
At least Akira Toriyama doesn't pretend Goku is a good guy. In fact, he's said that the anime depicts him as too heroic for his tastes.

Goku is selfish, and not a role model at all. He's not a hero, he just likes to fight, he only saves people he likes because he likes them, and he doesn't give a damn abotu the greater good or anything like that. It makes sense for a guy like that to not want to kill his greatest rival.

Batman has no such excuse, you can't keep pretending he's a good guy or a hero when he lets the Joker do as he pleases and even goes out of his fucking way to rescue him and resurrect him from the dead and shit. Batman is fucking trash. At least Goku is honest about his bullshit. At least Goku will say, "Yeah I just wanna fight him again hurr"

Dude fed his son to a full powered Cell because the fight "wouldn't be fair" otherwise.

I'm so tired of Joker. He's not interesting.

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>capefags still arguing for nonlethal morals

These companies keep getting your money because they like making a profit from the same rosters over and over again, masking it behind as righteousness. Nearly a century later and you people still fall for this?

>>77793491
Was it ever confirmed that the leader of the Red Hood gang is nuJoker? They did hint that it could be someone else, like the chemistry teacher who was forced to come along on that job.

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>>77793283
>THE PEOPLE I WAS RESPONDING TO
You were responding to a quote from TDKR.
In the OP.

>>77793020
Yes Batman, let's put a smile on that face.

How many times has Batman given Joker the princess carry?

>>77795832
goku is not a good guy, he's pure, some people can't recognize the difference.

>>77795047
>and respect for life
except for that of the joker's victims.

>>77793307
>as non-functional autists.
The ironing

>>77792785
>He hasn't read Final Crisis.

>>77798038
Neither Turpin nor Darkseid died from that gunshot, it just forced him out of his body.

When will there be an animated adaptation of TDKSA and ASBAR?

>>77798164
Hopefully never desu.

>>77793347
and the dozens of cops he hands Joker off to that could at any point after Batman grapling hooks off turn around and empty their service weapon into Joker's skull get a pass why?

>>77794998
You realize if it's that thorough it's even less logical to blame fucking Bruce Wayne human in a bat suit when the fucking spirit of god's hate can't even bring itself to kill the Joker.

Stuff like this really just always boils down to the writer and reader wanting other people to kill for them, soldiers, cops, nature, divine intervention etc without explanation. Just go.

When they're in the hot seat suddenly it's too much to ask of a person and hyper-logical thinking kicks in to explain away things. There is literally not one reason anyone else in the entirety of the DCU can't kill this one pasty faced fuck aside from wanting Batman to have to. It's that double standard where you come back from a fight beat up and you're asked why you didn't stand up for yourself, but if you beat the shit out of them you're asked why you always get into trouble. There is no right answer, it's just about others deflecting involvement. Fuck Gotham, fuck the entirety of the US as a matter of fact. Fuck Earth and Oa.

Fuck the Daxamites while we're at it.

>>77792858
>Why hasn't the corrupt police killed the biggest cop-killer in history?

Well in fairness the Joker isn't an unarmed black guy, pregnant woman, or child with a toy gun so the thought of it probaly hasn't even occured to them.

>>77798164
Hell, why not? It couldn't be any worse than Son of Batman/

>>77793040

What in the name of fuckery is going on with his leg?

>>77798990
>not wanting to see Dick Grayson Age Twelve

Dick hasn't had his own animated movie yet and they seem to just want him in them to get slapped around, so might as well get the best of both worlds: he has his own movie and still gets slapped around.

>>77792612
Batman has literally intervened in courts to save the Joker.

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>>77797296
>Goku
>Pure

>>77792792
Goku has and always will care more about having a good fights more than saving lives and even self-preservation. It's his entire character.

I hate the gay Joker secrelty friends/soulmates bullshit

It should always be Joker that sees and says that and then Batman doesnt care and punches his teeth out. Thats what the DCEU is doing

Batman killed the Joker on his first appearance. He returned alive and well.

Batman knows he can't stop the Joker by killing him, hence why arresting him is the best way to go.

This also explains why other people killing the Joker would be pointless: Because he would return.

>>77798038
>>77798157

Yeah, even faced with darkseid batman tried to not kill, he aimed at the shoulder thinking it would be enought to get rid of Darkseid control over that body and stop his invasion of this plane of existence

>>77792316
What do you mean by this?

The root of the problem is that writers are retarded and editors are fanboys. The writers wholeheartedly that it is okay for Joker to kill millions on a monthly basis but that it is wrong for Batman to kill him and that doing so would make them equal. Editors also do their damnedest to ensure the status quo never ever changes, and so they regularly churn out new excuses for our hero never winning.

>>77800451
I'd be down for it because I wanna hear the I'm the Goddamned Batman line.

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>>77795539

>>77793728
By definition, that is incorrect and only through troll logic would that even remotely make sense. He wouldn't be Batman if he was so self-centered, you moron.

>>77793700
Likewise.

>>77800537
He was just curious if girls had a wang, that's all. Nothing sexual about this scene.