Star Wars: Rebels

Crimson Empire was some good shit.

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Beautiful Bootilicious Orange Buttcheeks

always thought they had boba fett level awesomeness since childhood og ep 4-6

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>S2E5 Wings of the Master:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-BUx5evwAjIbFBMa09YX2NYbkE&usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#F!SogDgSzb!DpwkJ493-8UNkhTWaCB-3A

>S2E4 Brothers of the Broken Horn:
https://mega.nz/#F!H8Ql1AgY!scRdNJTOLsx3aauMqis1fQ
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1Zi6AEHfL5WSVB6eVdiZV82M00/view?usp=sharing

>S2E3 Always Two There Are:
https://mega.nz/#F!5cpnFChK!qA1dN4GVn7Nx5JBey75ODQ
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B93I7TSyr_f2V2YwV1ZERGVCNlE&usp=sharing

>S2E2 Relics of the Old Republic:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6lDFI93ly1lazdSMGx1YVdJeE0/view?usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#F!YEQjhKST!8O1ddekAK2X9r6koxJM4aw

>S2E1 The Lost Commanders:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6lDFI93ly1lcjhfNTRwZE1LUWM&usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#F!8IZTAZIZ!k8dnWF1dv1XEz7ujdcULog

>Star Wars Rebels: The Siege of Lothal
https://mega.nz/#!PcpyjBRR!Ws4hXEX7Y0NMmqL4WldQwQs56T3CD4pl26098e2d

>>77585387
Honestly, she isn't that hot.

>>77585402
You are not wrong.

>>77585402
Inb4 a bunch of autists white knighting their waifu

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Reminder that there is canonically a badass son of a bitch Clone Trooper that made his way up to become a Royal Guard.

Royal Guards in Rebels, when? Only a cameo where they fuck shit up and kill some expendables of course.

>>77585402
Heratic!

Reminder that people were very excited for TPM too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqcrzE9pZOQ

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>>77585402
You are correct. Green is better.

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>>77585454
She got no tits

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we gizka here?

>>77585439
Yeah, but the TPM trailer sucked total ass while the TFA trailer looks awesome as fuck.

For comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD7bpG-zDJQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE

>>77585439
Reminder that I liked TPM, liked the other prequels, and will probably like TFA too.

What can I say, I like Star Wars. There's some stuff I am not too keen on, sure, but overall, I've never gone into an autistic rage and hated anything Star Wars. Nothing has been that bad yet.

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Reminder these Tone Poems are beautiful and we should get more for the new trilogy.

https://youtu.be/FFoZYjLXO-M

https://youtu.be/sQQE2gn-nEM

https://youtu.be/RQqC9-30dTs

https://youtu.be/qRWjBXPzk7w

>>77585402
Binge watching TCW had me staring at her lips for hours.
Once Assaj showed up I was really conflicted though.

>>77585465
You should be the last person to talk, Sabine.

Reminder I fucked your mom.

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>>77585466
REMOVE GIZKA

>>77585473
>prequels
>not bad
You need to be 18 to post here, kid

>>77585465
Sabine is 16, she got no tits either mate

>>77585468
You could show a 5 second clip of Lucas staring at the screen and Star Wars will still sell millions and be hyped to shit. It's Star Wars fer christ sakes!

>>77585473
And the stuff I'm not keen on usually falls into "so bad it's good" territory for me. I mean Lucas wasn't trying to ruin anything, he just made the movies he wanted to. He made some mistakes, he should have help. But he had good ideas and intentions.

So why get mad about the cheesy romance? Just have a good laugh about it and enjoy the parts that are enjoyable. It's just a movie.

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>>77585520
Don't start this shit again.

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>>77585387

>>77585535
Because Episodes 1-3 were cinematic abominations that completely ruined the legacy of Star Wars

>>77585535
You summed it up well. I'll never understand people who get angry at Star Wars. They're leagues more enjoyable than the average blockbuster no matter how much they hold up to other Star Wars movies.

>>77585478
I love these. Definitely a unique marketing idea, that's for sure.

New clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRptVSKHkLo

Who wants to bet someone eventually says the thing?

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>>77585535
>And the stuff I'm not keen on usually falls into "so bad it's good" territory for me.

It's treason then.

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>>77585583
>This retardation
Just stop, do you get some kind of sick pleasure from shitting up places with this bullshit or what? This isn't /tv/, we like to actually discuss things rather than sling shit.

>>77585545
>TarkinDidn'tRiseToTheBait
Tarkin doesn't rise to anything.

>>77585596
Aren't you a little short for a Stormtrooper? It'd be genuinely hilarious if they instead say Kanan is too tall.

>>77585632
That's not what Daala said!

>>77585583

I respectively disagree. The PT coupled with the canon slate being cleared last summer are the best things to happen to Star Wars since ROTJ came out.

So, how did the SNOKE IS PLAGUEIS!!!! people react to Serkis talking about Snoke apparently being really huge?

>>77585596
Kanan is actually the only Ghost crew member I like. They should just kill off the other protagonists and make him the new main character.

>>77585621
not him, but i'm somewhat inclined to agree. I would say that they "ruined" the legacy of star wars, but the negative outweighs the positive. each prequel film had it's good moments, but the CGI and terrible dialogue stick out like a sore thumb.

I'm glad TCW happened, because it did justice to the prequel era where the movies did not.

>>77585632
Hey, there was that one time Aresko gave him head, that was pretty arousing.

>>77585659
Daala is a stupid bitch that couldn't do anything right, except fail.

>>77585596
They finally let the fanfare play during the ending clip of Rebels Recon. I'm glad that's over, that used to trigger my autism,

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>>77585679
I don't think any of them have said anything, but knowing them it won't deter them one bit.

>>77585679
They said that Plagueis as a Muun isn't canon anymore so he could basically be anything. I swear, they will never give up, not even when we've finally seen TFA.

>>77585679
There was a probably fake screenshot leaked showing Snoke as a Muun but I am not buying it. I don't even think Plaguise is going to be a Muun in Canon.

>>77585686
Ezera should turn evil, Zeb dies, and Sabine goes solo.

Then the show is exclusevly about Kanan and Hera being rebel mercenaries, traveling from rebel group to group trying to help wherever they can.

>>77585500
Ventress is the best TCW girl.

>>77585673
>PT Generation detected.

Boy I think you should be in bed right now and not shitposting on 4chan. Tomorrow is still a school day.

>>77585722
>>77585731
Plagueis as a Muun was something straight from George and LSG is mostly respectful of his ideas.

>>77585734
>Ezera
>Ezxa
>Erea

>>77585722
>They said that Plagueis as a Muun isn't canon anymore
Was this confirmed, though? I knew his status as a Muun wasn't definite, but I hadn't heard them confirm outright that he wasn't one.

>>77585774
Plagueis as a Muun in nucanon hasn't been confirmed or denied yet.

>>77585749
Why do you have to turn everything into an argument rather than let people have opinions? Christ. I'm not even that anon btw, It's just annoying seeing pointless posts like yours that can do nothing but cause arguments.

>>77585759
>Plagueis as a Muun was something straight from George
In that case, he will probably stay Muun. The LSG are indeed very faithful to Lucas and don't stray far from his ideas.

>>77585749
Phantom Menace was 16 years ago. Generation that grew up on the prequels is mostly in their 20s now.

>>77585815
What if I group up with the Prequels but still think the Original Trilogy is superior in every way?

>>77585842
grew up*

Fuck me senpai

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Why are these ships the sexiest?

>>77585842
Then you are like me. I loved the prequels when I was a kid, but now I couldn't even watch them anymore. Whatever, I'm still very excited for the new trilogy.

>>77585842
Same case here.

>>77585842
Then you haven't been brainwashed by our mass media.

>>77585842
You'd be part of a majority. PT fags aren't common, it's just that younger generations don't hate the Prequels as much as older ones do.

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>>77585583

> Disagree

>its been over 10 years and people are still bitching about the prequels

Really starting to believe Star wars fans are worse than WH40k fans

>>77585923
Well I think that they still have elements that are good even if the overall package is flawed.

>>77585923
>PT fags aren't common

It depends on what kind of forum you are browsing...
http://boards.theforce.net/threads/the-jar-jar-binks-appreciation-thread.50025348/

Enough of this chop-posting, post your favorite Prequel music.
Hard mode: no Duel of the Fates or Battle of the Heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYjn6TmZri4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_HtShMtfyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPmQaq46Z-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3MzwutfTHI

>>77585969
Same here. While they are very flawed movies, they also have just as many good things about them.

>>77585958
Hard to get over your favorite franchise having some of the worst movies of all time in it

>Not enjoying what you like regardless of what movie its from
I just dont get it, why are people more obsessed with what we dislike rather than what we like?

>>77586007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxC8IqnVUQI

>>77586027
Your post reeks of underage. You must not watch many movies.

>>77585958
At this point it's mostly a pissing contest between four or five people, looking to fuck up our threads for the hell of it. The closer we get to TFA, the worse these threads will get.

>>77585842
>>77585881
OT is better, but I still enjoyed the prequels. Hatred for them is super overblown. Besides, the real franchise-ruining cinematic abortion of the late 90s wasn't Phantom Menace, it was Roland Emmerich's Godzilla.

>>77586052
SW holds a special place in many people's minds.

>>77585697
Nah man, just nah. Kids loved the prequels and TCW just we loved the OT. At worst the prequels add nothing to the OT and you can discount them. If that's your choice, fine.

At best, if you allow yourself a different perspective, you can find things in the prequels that really enhance and build up the story of the OT in interesting ways. No, it may not change the legitimately bad parts, but you can at least appreciate what George was going for and how it connects to the OT.

But to say it "ruined the legacy of Star Wars" is just ridiculous. It's sensationalist.

>>77586033
This is 4chan, hating things comes easy, but talking about things you like is hard.

>>77585454
This anon gets it. I love pilot girls for some reason.

Side note: I can't wait to add her to my squadron in X-Wing.

>>77586057
This

And >>77586065 This.

Now lets shut up and enjoy some Star Wars.

>>77586089
The sad thing is this is still a better place to talk about Star Wars than most places on the internet that i know of.

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>>77585874
Pellaeon is no longer canon.
The Empire deserves an officer that actually knows what the fuck he's doing.

>>77586080
And if it holds a special place in your mind but you're not a petulant child about the prequels you get yelled at.

>>77586084
I have to disagree. Making Vader the person who built C-3PO was just ridiculous and made the galaxy so much smaller than it needed to be. And then there are other inconsistencies like Obi Wan not recognizing the droids or Leia remembering her real mother. Makes me think that George really didn't give a shit and just ignored the OT when writing the prequels.

>>77586007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-Rt2YR5oc

>>77586089
The sad this is this wasn't always the case. It was designed this way in the beginning to scare off newcomers but somewhere along the lines people took it too seriously and this place has taken a different turn.

This is exactly what has happened to /tv/

>>77586122
The thing about 4chan that's great for discussion is the anonymity, you don't see people sucking up to a single person with a cool profile pic and name like most places, unless they're drawfags or writefags.

What are some new books we're getting?

>>77586065
USzilla only ruined his own franchise and even then we got a kickass cartoon out of it

>>77586122
Once you ignore 4chans brand name cynicism and negativity it gets better as well. When everyone does that these threads are comfy.

>>77586174
>kickass cartoon out of it
I'm glad someone else remembers the animated series. I miss Saturday cartoons.

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Wait, people are actually enjoying and discussing this?

What's there to discuss?

The patently retarded dialogue intended for 6-year-olds?
The sickeningly oversimplified episode plots intended for those same 6-year-olds but too simple to be enjoyable even to them?
The disgusting censorship, like how they pan out entirely from someone being impaled by a light saber, despite total lack of blood?

I mean, there is literally nothing that this series has going for it, especially compared to its immediate predecessor: The Clone Wars.

Disney is a plague, and now it's taken hold of Star Wars. Depressing. So depressing.

>>77586154
You're not looking at the big picture at all if you think those minor things in this ridiculous 9-part poetic space opera monster somehow ruins the originals forever.

>>77585520
Reminder that kids who were 5 when TPM came out are 21 now

>>77586208
Shit Wars 2.0

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>>77586208

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>>77586171
>New Books
We're getting two more Aftermath books, a new YA book series, a new book from Claudia Grey, and a bunch of Short Stories for TFA.

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>>77586208
Are you done whining like a melodramatic bitch? Honestly, this is becoming pathetic. Yeah, I'm not too happy with the writing all that much either, but being associated with a neckbeard like you that sounds like he got sand in his man-vagina is even worse.

>>77586154
>Makes me think that George really didn't give a shit and just ignored the OT when writing the prequels.

Yes he pretty much did.

That is where you get stuff like Padme dying in ROTS or Palpatine and Yoda being skilled lightsaber duelists. Or the idea of the rule of two or Palpatine being a Sith Lord at all.

>>77586208
Why would you post here? What's the point? Do you go into the threads of every show you dislike just to inform people that you think it's shit?

Just leave, god.

>>77586207
Judging from the Godzilla threads lots of us remember that fondly.

It was one of three great Sony shows in the late 90s along with Men in Black the Series and Extreme Ghostbusters.

But to get back on topic, will Rebels eventually expand to have OT Luke and crew in between the movie releases?

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You know who's the best droid ever? C1-10P. You guys should totally post more Chopper.

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>>77586237
At least TCW had better visuals (why Rebels lacks them is beyond me) and didn't censor everything.

Also, with TCW, we only got one Children's Morality Tale episode per season. In Rebels, it's EVERY episode.

Also, Grievous torturing jedi via holocom with the entire Jedi Council watching... vs ...the Inquisitors chatting up the rebels like they're at a galactic diner and happen to have looked at each other the wrong way.

I mean, TCW could've been better for sure, but Rebels is just... I can't imagine how it could be worse.

>>77586264
Wanna take Disney's cock out of your mouth before posting? The cum is drizzling all over the keyboard.

>>77586295
Anon you're comparing late TCW to early Rebels. Try comparing S1-2 TCW to Rebels.

>>77586007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM_ZWnD40aA

>>77586154
>Making Vader the person who built C-3PO was just ridiculous and made the galaxy so much smaller than it needed to be

Stop this. There's a long history of stories of this nature having a lot of connective tissue. That was something was important to Lucas' vision. It's not supposed to be realistic, Star Wars isn't realistic in the slightest. It's over the top and archetypal by nature. You can't say it's bad just because you would have done it differently.

>>77586292
You've been getting enough episode time Chop! Stop baiting the thread!

>>77586292
You're not wrong, BB8 is shit for normies, C1-10P is GOAT

>>77586295
Basically Rebels is Filoni minus the Lucas influences.

>we only got one Children's Morality Tale episode per season. In Rebels, it's EVERY episode.

I think we can say who is responsible for shit like the Great Divide in ATLA Book 1 now at least.

>>77586287
>Men in Black the Series
Damn that was good too.

>Rebels eventually expand to have OT Luke and crew in between the movie releases?
I think Many of the writers were wary of having too many OT/PT characters show up in Rebels and sort of want to keep it to a minimum.

>>77586292
Fuck Chopper, I like Gonk better.

>>77586313

But anon,. the scene with Grievous and Eeth Koth was from a season 2 episode of TCW.

>>77586271
Yeah man I'm sure you know way more and have put way more thought into these movies than the guy behind it all.

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/lucas-quotes-and-interviews-about-the-starwars-saga.15943856/

>>77586271
>Palpatine being a Sith Lord

I think Return of the Jedi is more to blame for that.

Though, I do recall that Filoni once mentioned that George was more of a "big picture" guy. He didn't sweat the little details, as long as everything fit together on a macro level. Filoni being more of the opposite was constantly worried about the little bits of continuity, and George told him to chill the fuck out, because you limit yourself when you're a slave to canon.

>>77586007
https://youtu.be/OLQ-rCSbFeQ

https://youtu.be/VmKPrSSAqZ0

https://youtu.be/Q5ZY8Fz9GGU

https://youtu.be/Mb_LXxnO9wI

https://youtu.be/9QAHblQqJsY

https://youtu.be/42Q9lYIIi-I (The Parade is actually the Emperor's Theme in a Major Key, signifying his hidden victory at the end of Episode 1 https://youtu.be/ocDvmJ1VSS4)

https://youtu.be/U5CyAUSRHR4

https://youtu.be/OyXKQzacqos

https://youtu.be/mpNUoWkUFC8

I've got so much more.

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>>77586337
>Basically Rebels is Filoni minus the Lucas influences

And yet people still complain about Lucas being "cancerous" to Star Wars, and how much better the prequels supposedly would have been without him...

And we sure as hell will never have an episode like Massacre in Rebels.

>>77586327
Please stop repeating this bullshit. Campbell and Lucas only hooked up AFTER he finished the SW trilogy. The influences of Campbells ideas of repeating archetypes are way overblown. Campbell and Lucas co-opted each other for their mutual advantage. Campbell to take advantage of the popularity of SW to advertise his theories and Lucas to give himself an air of further legitimacy.

>>77586154
>Making Vader Luke's father and Leia his sister was just ridiculous and made the galaxy so much smaller than it needed to be

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>>77586328
You shut up.

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Remember when these fun and comfy, and not full of worthless chopposters?

>>77586388
Masacre happened because of several seasons allowing it to be built to

>>77586295
>why Rebels lacks them is beyond me
Because Disney is being stingy, how do you not know this by now? George isn't giving them his own money, and Disney is giving them the bare minimum.


But seriously man, why are you watching something you clearly hate?

>>77586174
GINO single-handedly destroyed Trendmasters. They built their empire on the original Godzilla and they went bankrupt when nobody wanted to buy the Super Iguana toys. This is what killed the actually good cartoon show alongside the Pokemon craze.

The giant monster genre was functionally dead in America for almost a decade in the wake of GINO and Godzilla in the west faded into a niche DVD market.

There's a lot of countries that never had exposure to the original franchise. GINO was their introduction to Godzilla and in fact, there were people bitching about Gareth Edwards Godzilla breathing fire in some of those countries.

>>77586052
>disliking the prequels makes you underage

>>77586027
Watch some cinema snob reviews.
You'll realize that the worst movies of all time are incomprehensibly worse than any Star Wars anything.
Seriously, you sound like someone getting a paper cut and writhing and screaming about it being worse than getting shot.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>77586399
It was ridiculous and an overly convenient means to wrap up the dangling plotline of the other from ESTB.

>>77586295
>At least TCW had better visuals (why Rebels lacks them is beyond me) and didn't censor everything.

Rebels has a lower budget. And if you've been paying attention this season, it seems they have a budget increase because the visuals have been getting better.

>Also, with TCW, we only got one Children's Morality Tale episode per season. In Rebels, it's EVERY episode.

Surely you're joking, right? Every single episode of TCW had some sort of moral at the beginning.

>Also, Grievous torturing jedi via holocom with the entire Jedi Council watching... vs ...the Inquisitors chatting up the rebels like they're at a galactic diner and happen to have looked at each other the wrong way.

Did you miss Kanan's torture by the Grand Inquisitor last season? Or the double beheading of two bumbling imperial officers?

>>77586337
>I think we can say who is responsible for shit like the Great Divide in ATLA Book 1 now at least.
Not Dave Filoni?

http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Dave_Filoni#Avatar:_The_Last_Airbender_credits

http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/The_Great_Divide

>>77586434
Our fandom's surprising tame these days as well. Shit blew up in other areas that are much much worse.

>>77586422
Oh... okay. But:

>Godzilla in the west faded into a niche DVD market.

I thought it was always a niche market in the west after the fifties or sixties caveman vs dinosaur craze.

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>>77586252
Obligatory

>>77586477
I never watched avatar, were those episodes good?

>>77586389
Source? Besides, we aren't talking about the OT, we're talking about the connection later established by the PT with the OT. Whether or not he planned it before the OT is irrelevant to the discussion. I think if you go back and look at the history of Lucas' approach you'll find that he's always been the type to change things and reshape them as he goes along.

>>77586434
please enlighten us all with your elite cinema knowledge that you obtained from cinema snob pleaseeeeeee

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>>77586407
#R2DWHO?

>>77586399
Vader being Luke's father works, even if it is a bit contrived. Leia turning out to be his sister feels exactly like the asspull it is.

>>77586447
But people don't say ROTJ ruined Star Wars forever. Oh wait, that actually used to be a thing too. Funny, that.

>>77586307
Aw anon, mad you got called out like the little bitch you've been acting? Really man, your rants are the epitome of neckbearded idiot that doesn't seem to understand S&P.

>>77586477
At this point if feels like we've got yourselves a troll, pretty soon we're gonna get KorraAnon telling us that Filoni has failed.

This is really starting to feel how the Rick and Morty threads imploded.

>>77586389
>Campbell exploited a movie that came out twenty years later to make himself popular

>>77586528
And people said it about empire

Empire actually was not received very well until long after

>>77586528
>ESB RUINED STAR WARS FOREVER
>ROTJ RUINED ESB AND STAR WARS FOREVER
>TPM RUINED STAR WARS FOREVER
>AOTC RUINED STAR WARS FOREVER
>ROTS RUINED STAR WARS FOREVER
>TCW RUINED STAR WARS FOREVER
>REBELS RUINED STAR WARS FOREVER
>TFA WILL RUIN STAR WARS FOREVER

Man I love Star Wars but I'm rather bothered by the so-called fans.

>>77586528
Yeah, it's kind of easy to forget that it was reviled for a while.

>>77586549
Reprints son

>>77586154
>Making Vader the person who built C-3PO was just ridiculous and made the galaxy so much smaller than it needed to be.

Anakin didn't BUILD C-3PO. He rebuilt him from parts in Watto's Junkyard

>And then there are other inconsistencies like Obi Wan not recognizing the droids

He only says ""I don't recall ever owning a droid." Which is true. He didn't own Artoo or Threepio. And his astromech from AotC/TCW/RotS was owned by the Republic, not him.

>or Leia remembering her real mother.

New canon is hinting that she has some sort of force memories of her mother

>Makes me think that George really didn't give a shit and just ignored the OT when writing the prequels.

Your post makes me think you're just trying to stir up shit and haven't bothered to do any research.

>>77586508
The Great Divide is an okay episode if you remove the very end of it.

The episodes Filoni was involved in were definitely some of the best of S1 ATLA.

>>77586566
Yeah same.

>>77586581
>New canon is hinting that she has some sort of force memories of her mother
It's nice that they are working with what they can

But it still feels akward

>>77586560
Yeah, it needs the benefit of ROTJ in order to be appreciated, since not only does ROTJ wrap up a lot of the threads that were left dangling in ESB, but the contrast in tone between the two makes ESB seem even darker than it actually is. Being followed up by Ewoks, burping Sarlaccs and slapstick Boba Fetts will have that effect.

>>77586567
It still is by some people.

>>77586598
I mean, the other explanation would be that Leia thought Luke was referring to Bail's wife, and that Luke was just wording the question weird.

>>77586307
Good work.

>>77586492
Godzilla 2000's dub release was successful enough that an American produced sequel to be directed by Joe Dante was pitched where Godzilla goes to Hawaii and fights a lava bat. Could have starred Bruce Campbell, Leonard Nimoy and Christopher Lee.

Sony execs didn't go for it and they weren't really interested in Toho's productions either. Really, the one motivating factor they had for bringing the rest of the Millennium series here was to make some dosh from the 50th anniversary.

>>77586566
It's easy for me to ignore hostile shit in this fandom. Though it could be because a lot of this took place before the internet. Now everyone can whine safely with many excuses. It's why fandoms for new things are such a warzone.

>>77586612
"Do you remember your mother? Your real mother?"

Apparently Leia knew she was adopted though it never came up before.

>>77586170

This, no matter how they'll argue otherwise.

>>77586285

Half of it is shitposting, half of it is the usual flip-flopping parts of a fandom do when a new show comes out and they suddenly praise the older one despite shitting on it when it was new. And you can't claim /co/ didn't shit hard on Clone wars in the begining of its run.

I guarantee you if a new show comes out based on the new movies they'll start praising Rebels.

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>>77586632
Presumably her folks would have told her

Not like she wouldn't have noticed that she did not look like her dad.

>>77586612
>"Leia, do you remember your mother... your real mother?"
>"Yes, I... wait... what do you mean real mother?"
>"Yeah, I don't mean the Queen of Alderaan. I mean your real mother."
>"But that IS my real mother! What are you saying?!"
>"Oh... oh... I thought... wow, I heard some of the generals talking about it, I figured you knew you were adopted..."
>"What?!"

>>77586549
Well he certain wasn't extra-ordinarily popular and well known until near the end of his life and certainly after he met Lucas.

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Joseph+Campbell&year_start=1949&year_end=1999&corpus=15&smoothing=3

>>77586208
You make some valid points, I think we'd all be happy if they had done the Underworld Tv show for older audiences and have made rebels for the younger fans and have them run alongside. Of course people are going to criticise it, it may be a kids show but for a lot of older fans it's the only star wars they've got right now so people will nitpick.

>>77586622
The sheer butthurt people feel is just so childish though. I was raised on the OT. It's literally the earliest thing I remember latching onto after Sesame Street. Star Wars totally stole that top spot and I've loved it ever since.

But some people act like Lucas fucking killed their family because he made a couple subpar movies. It's embarrassing and a good sign the person has poor critical thinking skills.

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>>77585583

RLM pls go. And find some other place for pretending to be retarded.

>>77586689
Prequel Internet Defense Force. Fuck. Off.

>>77586689
It's like people don't realize that the RLM stuff is intentionally over the top. It's fucking Mike Stoklasa stealing a Rich Evans character for fuck's sake.

I regret ever showing those to anybody.

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>>77585454
Wrong green bucko

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>>77586516
Chooper get off.

>>77586566
Fans have turned me away from a lot of stuff. Never gonna watch or play a lot of things cause of them.

>>77586722
same

>>77586516
Thats not R2D2. Its just another R2 unit with the same color scheme

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best bounty hunter.

>>77586566
nice strawman

>>77585842
>What if I group up with the Prequels but still think the Original Trilogy is superior in every way?

Then you maybe should stop trying so hard to fit among people you don't know on the web.

While OT has tighter plot and less cheesy dialogue, a lot of its special effects really show their age. It is remarkable that many of them still compare well to movies of today, but there is no question than PT is simply visually better, from grander, much more detailed battle scenes to wider range of fantastic worlds.

>>77586789
Stop using words you don't understand.

>>77586723
I'd like to see Force-Healing again, it looks like a very interesting and very needed skill.

>>77586739
this was too soon

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>>77586781
>not mandalorian
You've failed me for the last time anon

>>77586685
I think a lot of it stems from how over-protective Lucas was about Star Wars. I mean for years he's said ESB is the worst Star Wars film, the one he didn't direct. I don't think anyone can deny how bitter the fan reaction to the prequels made him, and I still do this day think that him shoving in PT characters ( I.e Watto in Jabbas palace) in the OT is him trying to validate the PT.

I for one don't have that strong of an opinion on the prequels, it's not like they were done maliciously, but Lucas continuing to not release the original edits of the OT is childish, and inexcusable. There's just no other way to put it

>>77586292
Newcomer to the show here, is it really true that his script are full colorful remarks and sarcasm when translated?

>>77585394
What's Siege of Lothal's decryption key?

>>77586795
Get to bed kid. You probably think CGI and green screen are the only way to make movies.

>>77586795
>implying special effects trumps story and character.

this is the sames harebrained Lucas philosophy that gave us the prequels.

>>77586065
>Besides, the real franchise-ruining cinematic abortion of the late 90s wasn't Phantom Menace, it was Roland Emmerich's Godzilla.

I prefer Matrix sequels as an example of what shitty franchise-ruining movies look like. While PT caused a lot of butthurt and backlash, its commercial success, particularly if you take into account the massive overall boost it gave to SW media, including books, comics and cartoons, is undeniable.

So can I just skip the Clone Wars "movie" and start S1E1 of SW:TCW? Been wanting to consume as much SW as possible before the movie and people say the later seasons of TCW are boss.

>>77586795
>should stop trying so hard to fit among people you don't know on the web.

pls stop

It seems like another popular thing when it comes to TCW is to shit on the first season. But I thought it was great, better than rebels so far imo.

Each episode or arc was like a wartime serial chronicling adventures of jedi, clones and others across the galaxy. Each had the production value of a mini movie.

I was disappointed by the lack of side character stories that we got in s1. s2-5 shoehorned the leading cast into every plot where there could have been leeway for new faces.

But season 1 got a lot right I think. It may not have got too dark yet but it captured the wonder of star wars perfectly and made me watch the show until the end.

>>77586840
Shit, I don't know how that last link keeps fucking up. Try this one.

https://mega.nz/#!PcpyjBRR!Ws4hXEX7Y0NMmqL4WldQwQs56T3CD4pl26098e2d9VY

>>77586860
Dont skip the movie. It's not great, but it introduces the characters of the show.

>>77586781
How for the love of Dengar can this bamf not be canon!!?

>>77586835
>( I.e Watto in Jabbas palace)

How the fuck did you mix Watto up with Sebulba? And even then, the Dug they slapped into the palace scene looks more like that guy in the Coruscant car chase scene then Sebulba.

>>77586795
Nah, Empire is still the best looking Star Wars film.

A lot of shots in the PT are composited weird, and despite what some people will tell you, the CG really isn't that good, and it is noticeable.

>>77586839
it is true

>>77586896
Cad Bane was created as a replacement. They considered reworking Durge into a human character, but they instead chose to make a new character all together.

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Anyone have that Sabine cosplay that everyone thought was terrible? Her hair was really sloppily done with the colors making it look rediculously greasy and she was VERY asian. It was a close up of her face if I recall correctly.

I would really appreciate it if you guys could help me

>>77586909
Probably because I've only seen the Blu-Ray releases once, and in my minds eye it was Watto.

>>77586845
CGI and greenscreen are superior over models and "practical effects". They are also cheaper and way less labor intensive. The weakest aspects of TFA will undoubtedly by the "practical stone age effects".

>>77586860
You don't need to watch the movie at all. It's not worth your time

>>77586835
He didn't direct Jedi and he respected Kershner enough to defer to him in many cases and let him and Kasdan have quite a lot of leeway especially with the Han/Leia parts. He was one of Lucas' mentors! Why would Lucas have any antagonism towards him?

You have to remember George has a different perspective because he's the architect. He sees the whole picture. Guys like Kershner and Kasdan see the smaller picture. And that's good, it's guys like them who helped feel out the details and give the movies the critical human element that people love about the OT. And yes, this is one of the bigger flaws about the PT. George focused too much on the broad overtones and forgot to humanize the characters in important ways or wrap the loose ends of the plot details that he deemed irrelevant. That's a byproduct of the way he approaches things I think, he was similar with the OT and that's why he handed off the director responsibility. He's really not a great director.

But I don't really think it's fair to fault George for having an opinion, or to assume it's malicious just because the crowd accepts ESB as the best. It's not a perfect movie, none of the OT are despite the worship they get. And I seriously adore the movies.

>but Lucas continuing to not release the original edits of the OT is childish

I don't disagree with this but I can see George's desire for what he feels like is the optimum consistency. Doesn't mean they can't coexist though.

>>77586860
I think it's unnecessary. It introduces Ahsoka, and that's about it. Watch it if you want, if you skip it, nothing of value was lost.

>>77586870
I was disappointed by the lack of side character stories that we got in later seasons I mean. We never got that bail/Obi wan arc that established why they're close allies in IV. "You fought alongside my father in the clone war" assuming she meant bail and not anakin.

>>77586961
Actually I should say that he's not a great actor's director. The prequels still have some really great imagery. George is good at envisioning a story in picture. But you can't just cling to silent films, dialogue is important to western audiences and you have to work with that.

>>77586941
Compare the start of Battle of Endor to some of the scenes from ROTS, and you will see this isn't always true.

>>77586896
Probably too OP for Lucas. They could've just sized him down though or at least referenced him. After all he and ventress first appeared in the same comic working together.

>>77586850
It wasn't the effects, it was Lucas' warped focus. Lucas has always said the effects are just a tool to tell a story and that's no different in the prequels. Really sounds like something you just cribbed from RLM rather than something you gave any kind of thought too. There is a story in the prequels whether you like it or not.

>>77586937
Possibly this? http://i-want-to--believe.tumblr.com/search/cosplay+sabine

If not... You might get a kick out of it all the same.

>>77586973
I think that's what the Stealth Ship episode was meant to touch on with the supply run to support Bail. Even had him going "Help us Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope"

>>77586941
Both are good, anybody who denies this is retarded.

>>77586973
This is something that should have happened in like the PT given the thread is in ANH!

>"You fought alongside my father in the clone war"

In one of the shooting scripts, it's actually: you served the Republic in the clone wars, which imo is more serviceable.

>>77587025
Thats not it but I appreciate the effort. The cosplay itself was very dark looking in terms of theaming.

The first film was a huge success because of everyone, Lucas included. But it was people like the DP who lied to Lucas and didn't shoot in soft focus and his wife who won an Oscar for her cut of the film (the original cut was apparently very long and considered boring by those who saw it) that kept him in check and helped make it a success. With Empire Lucas clashed with Kasdan and the director Kershner over the film, but it all worked out in the end. When RotJ came around, Lucas decided he was a fan of the studio system, as he wanted to be the overlord producer. He wanted a director who would do what he wanted. With that began his resentment. Star Wars became his thing, that he was responsible for the success for. He discounted all the artist and crew that made it come to life. It should be noted he was going through a divorce at the time, and I don't like to get in to the particulars about that. But he changed quite a bit at that time, and it could be seen in Temple of Doom and RotJ.

When Lucas came back to Star Wars, he asked Kasdan to return, and Kasdan refused. Why? Speculation is abound, but my opinion is that he knew George would no longer listen. This seemed to play out, as Lucas surrounded himself with yes men (watch or listen to any of the prequel special features or commentaries) and had no one to challenge on the prequels. He wrote them himself and directed them himself, with very little input and apparently no push back.

Now no matter how you feel about the prequels, they have taken a lot of criticism, and this has hurt George. He considered the prequels his sole vision and thus the criticism against, especially when compared to the OT, made him look, well wrong. But his reaction has gotten worse over the years. He won't release any version of the OT that isn't the most recently altered because it is "his vision". Even though he didn't direct two of the films. He has taken shots at fans over the OT and the prequels.

>>77586515
There are dozens of movies that do literally nothing right from america and countries the world over, so saying TPM is among them is like saying goodfellas is shit because citizen Kane is better. It's a retarded statement meant to get a reaction, the alternative is that the one saying it has only seen a handful of good movies so comparably speaking they think one of them is the worst ever, but in reality it's no where fucking close.
Would you rather watch TPM or fucking Salo, 120 days of sodomy, an old dubbed Italian film about fucking and mindfucking 12-15 year olds in ww2 Italy?
Perspective man, Star Wars is good at its worst, divine at its best.

>>77585478
Obi Wan should have gotten one.

>>77587098
Where do you get all this resentment from? That he intentionally "surrounded himself with yes-men?" I think it's just as easy to believe that everybody trusted him to do it on its own and didn't challenge him, and George being the beta that he is just went with it since everyone was telling him they're just at his behest anyway.

I mean, Spielberg told him to do it himself and he made TPM, probably the most divisive movie. TPM reeks of unrestrained George. It's all of his good qualities and all of his bad qualities at full throttle. It's a mess but I like the good qualities and I admire his vision. He just needs helpful peers to translate his vision for normies.

>just finished the latest star wars chapter/comic whatever
>the saga continues...
>please read all these other comics
>Vader Down #1
>It's a damn direct sequel of the Darth Vader comic so why the hell not just continue there and not just publish a new comic?
>the list jumps around with both Star Wars, Darth Vader, and Vader Down comics that aren't even out yet

What the fuck? Is this really how Western comics operate?

>>77587188
Yeah. They provide some neat insight for the characters and Obi-Wan could have used a bit more. I still think his relationship with Qui-Gon and how it affects his training of Anakin is one of the best undertones of the prequels. Honestly Obi-Wan needed more time period but TPM is a long and dense movie anyway and I like that Qui-Gon is the dominant character in the Anakin plot.

>>77587199
> I think it's just as easy to believe that everybody trusted him to do it on its own

I'd believe that too, if it weren't for the fact that everyone continued to just say "yes", even after TPM came out and was as divisive as you said. People should've definitely said something after AOTC, but they continued to stay silent.

>>77587098
I don't think you appreciate the behind the scenes production shenanigans that happened in ESTB and how they lead to actually effecting his health, his marriage and how he had to go to Fox to get more money. It's why he wanted to centralize power and not delegate too much for ROTJ and get someone that would follow his directions.

>With that began his resentment. Star Wars became his thing

You have to understand. Hollywood operates under the auteur. Everything is the director's vision according to that school of thought. Of course that was far from the truth for ANH. It wouldn't take much for him to buy into the partyline when everyone around him believes it already.

>>77586835
I think he's embarrassed by the ancient fucking effects from the original releases and doesn't want people to see his old stuff he feels isn't up to snuff.
I get it, it's like a cartoon creator not wanting to release the pilot episode they made to pitch the show years after the show took off. It's early, rough work, that doesn't reflect who they are now.
It sucks people forget George isn't above humanity, he's a person like anyone else. He at least seems happier not having to worry as much about Star Wars anymore.

>>77587199
im curious,what parts of lucas's vision did you like in TPM?

imo i like TPM simply because of the podrace.Thats one of the best moments in SW.

>>77587216
Vader Down is an "event" comic that will cross over SW and DV.

>>77587240
I still don't see that as conclusive evidence that George maliciously wanted to take full control.

Who else here is hoping Leia gets attacked by one of the Knights of Ren?

>You have failed. I am a Jedi like my brother before me.

I want to see Leia be a Jedi so badly

>>77587216
Vader Down is a one-shot, not an on-going. So it's really just two series. It really isn't that hard to grasp.

>>77587025
She's not great but by no means the worst. She did a decent job on the armor. Just keep the helmet on more, it's a good helmet and looks better in pictures

If I was going to go full /cgl/ on her, I'd say helmet on at all times, get several pieces of shapewear as well as wear some tight garments underneath to smooth the actual outer layer of clothing, either do away with the scratched paint on the armor or make it look more deliberate, get some actual belts instead of sewn pleather, paint the ammo belts so they look less like they're from nerf weapons, swap the slouch boots for straight leg, and overall for the pants just go for 'serious fabrics' like twill, canvas, etc rather than what looks like regular cotton

But honestly it's a solid attempt, and without me being overly critical she's fine as is.

I want to see the really bad one

>>77587280
>she

>>77587269
Not going to happen.

Leia being Luke's sister is probably not something that Kasdan wanted.

>>77586874
Now that's what I call podracing.

>>77587111

Star Wars Episode: Be Invoked

>>77586566
While I agree with you on a level, you're kind of being a faggot pulling the "YOU HAVE TO LIKE EVERYTHING IN A FRANCHISE OR ELSE YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN" card.

>>77587261
I like that George decided to blow the doors wide-open in terms of new content. It's a roller-coaster of really awesome visuals in my eyes.

I like that he wanted to homage other things in the art direction rather than just retreading the OT visuals. As other people have said there are so many visual influences that are a joy to look at if you're familiar his inspiration.

I appreciate the complexity of the working parts and angles, even if he didn't always consider every detail and neglected to present them clearly to the audience.

I really like some of the things it added and reinforced to the mythos, specifically concerning the Jedi and the state of the republic in the senate.

I like a lot of the overtones, from the wide range of symbiosis symbolism, to his decisions regarding Anakin's childhood and how it affects his journey, to the nature of the Force and how the Jedi perceive it. I feel that most of these overtones lend interesting ways to look at the saga rather than taking away from the independent story on the OT

I appreciate the pottery as always, from the bigger story parallels to the smaller things like some aspects of the camera work

What I take away from The Phantom Menace is that it contains a lot of great ideas and had a lot of passion poured into it but it's too complex for its own good and fails to tie everything together in a satisfying way.

>>77587414
>you're kind of being a faggot pulling the "YOU HAVE TO LIKE EVERYTHING IN A FRANCHISE OR ELSE YOU'RE NOT A REAL FAN" card

But I'm not doing that. Like or dislike whatever you like, but reasonable. I'm just saying that the overblown reaction common to Star Wars fans is utterly childish.

>>77587010
>Probably too OP for Lucas.
Have it where if you chop his limbs off they reattach. Then have them stop him by spreading all his limbs around the galaxy. Then have an arc about smugglers posthumously hired by him trying to put him back together.

>>77586941
CGI is good for space battles and vehicle chases. Practical effects are good for characters because actors look awkward when they're interacting with something that isn't there. Sets can be in between but anything actors interact with (doors, buttons, etc) should be real.

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I'm digging Constable Zuvio's look. I liked him before when all we had was that action figure but now that his hat is more purple I'm actually really hyped to see him in the movie now since something about that color combination is cool to me.

>>77586007
TCW doesn't get enough credit for it's music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmZTo0cTh0E

>>77587652
poor mans Embo

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Twi'lek First Order pilots possibly confirmed.

>>77587652
As an action figure he looked whatever, but he looks good in movie form.

>>77587693
What are you talking about?

>>77587652
>Filoni takes discarded KoR concept art for Inqusitors.
>Abrams uses Embo concept from TCW

Pure pottery.

>>77587730
its got the holes for the Tentacles

>>77587730
Notice the holes in the sides of the helmet.

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>>77587746
>>77587755
Yeah, those aren't holes.

>>77587784
But with the blast shield down how will they see anything.

>>77586425
No, genuinely believing that the star wars prequels are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to film shows an enormous amount of naivete of just how bad films can get. Being that naive reeks of underage

>>77587810
Good thing all First Order pilots are Force sensitive!

>>77587821
Must be something Emperor Skywalker made mandatory.

>>77586503
>HA HA GET IT GUYS, PLO KOON IS A PEDOPHILE!
>GET IT GUYS?
GET IT GUYS?

>>77586860
Anakin gets a new padawan. That's literally all you need to know. However ff a baby farting while everyone around makes a disgusted face is your kinda humor, then by all means watch it

>>77587935
I'm not sure I follow

>>77585679
>Snoke apparently being really huge?
He never said anything like that.

What he says make it sound like he's up on a podium and everyone is looking up at him from their lower podiums since they are of less significance to him like the senate scenes or when Vader kneels before Palpatine.

>>77587935
>implying he isn't

please he is the creepy uncle who molests his nieces at family reunions.

>>77585734
Ezra may still do that.

He may be the secret apprentice that might have been hinted at by Witwer...or not. All we know is that we have some TFU-like stuff coming up and one of the biggest things from that was a secret apprentice.

>>77588088
Excuse me, who are you to criticize proud Kel Dor traditions? It's a beautiful thing, it's a sign of bonding with young female relatives and shame on you for trying to belittle their culture. Take your prejudice elsewhere, you bigot.

>>77588072
the additional fact that he is also using a kongolizer pretty much confirms he is huge as in bigger than plagueis.

>>77588133
fiddling kids are against the rules and laws of the republic and jedi council members aint above the law there pops

>>77588140
No, you don't understand, in order to extend his life after Sidious's attempt to kill him, Plagueis had to immerse himself in a nutrient tank, which caused him to bloat to enormous proportions. Remember those dog warrior guys from the old Clone Wars cartoon who get turned into fat cyborgs? That's what Plagueis did, except the cyborg part, but he was in his tank for 50 years so he's 50 feet tall and 200 feet wide and really spongy but his powers are as potent as ever!

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>>77588151
Inappropriately touching minors isn't against the law.

You have seen nothing of this.

You want to go to /aco/ and fap for a while.

George does not seem very happy about TFA (this is separate from the Vanity Fair article). seems particularly bitter about the story treatments being tossed out and said that Disney wasn't keen on him being involved

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-lucas-on-why-he-is-done-directing-star-wars/

>>77588200
Well if the rumors about TFA is true, it also kinda undermines the happy ending he wanted for the characters after ROTJ with Leia/Han having a family and Luke rebuilding the Jedi. Neither of which are fully realized.

>>77588200
I can kind of see his point in that it does feel like TFA is being done with a lot of OT fanservice in mind, to the point of having a lot of the same plot elements as ANH.

I don't think that necessarily means it won't be good, but I think we'll be able to feel the absence of Lucas's touch. I don't want him writing or directing but his core ideas tend to be really good (obviously his track record isn't 100%), we just have to see if Abrams, Kennedy, Kasdan and crew can make it work.

>>77586581
>Anakin didn't BUILD C-3PO. He rebuilt him from parts in Watto's Junkyard
Incorrect according to Lucas.
>He only says ""I don't recall ever owning a droid." Which is true. He didn't own Artoo or Threepio. And his astromech from AotC/TCW/RotS was owned by the Republic, not him.
He would have remembered that droid, anon. This was obviously something he came up with much later and was never intended to be connected, you can't dispute that.
>New canon is hinting that she has some sort of force memories of her mother
The whole thing still comes off as awkward since she wasn't awakened in the Force, remember that Vader never says anything about even though she's Luke's equivalent. Only thing of note was that she resisted a interrogation probe and Vader decided to take a break and not bother using the Force to read her mind for some reason. (Hadn't been thought of yet most likely)

Look, there's one simple truth: Lucas came up with stuff on the fly. None of these things were intended from day one, remember that Vader's name is actually Darth for instance in the original
>I remember very early on asking who my parents were and being told that my father and Obi Wan met Vader on the edge of a volcano and they had a duel. My father and Darth Vader fell into the crater and my father was instantly killed. Vader crawled out horribly scarred, and at that point the Emperor landed and Obi Wan ran into the forest, never to be seen again.

>>77586807
Pretty sure we still see it in ANH.

It's just one of those things that is used immediately forgotten about like Force speed in Episode 1.

>>77588227

Again, we know that ONE Academy has been destroyed there can be others.

>>77587652
I still ship him with Rey

It's a shame he's gonna die

>>77588254
Lucas has been nothing but a plague to the franchise. Good riddance, now we can finally have good Star Wars movies again instead of the CGI garbage bin bullshit he tried to perpetrate on us.

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>>77588389
t.Jew-Jew Abrahams

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>>77588389
Stay mad

>>77588227
the thing that gets me is lucas said disney didn't want to follow his treatments because "they wanted to make it for the fans". by "the fans" that pretty obviously means "OT purists" going by the amount of pottery TFA seems to be incorporating.

this makes me really wonder what exactly was in george's outlines, since george cares more about telling the story he wants than making "the fans" happy

>>77588314
It's not one academy destroyed it's the fact that there is no NJO at all and the Jedi are still pretty much wiped out with the exception of Luke.

>>77588421
I'm guess something closer to TCW stories we had, but with a new generaton of solo kids. I'm almost certain he probably had a much younger cast. The book "How Star Wars Conquered the Universe" makes an extremely good case that he is absolutely fixated on the issue of a younger cast of kids (aimed at a younger demographic). So maybe something closer to Anakin's story in TPM, but without the slavery and fall from grace.

So I just got caught up on the new ep. What the hell happened to the Ezra who was confident and not really caring too much about Sabine? I miss that Ezra. I had almost thought he had moved on from trying to get with her for now.

>>77588421
>this makes me really wonder what exactly was in george's outlines
We know a bit

The main characters were young children. So it was likely something akin to Anakin Ep 1 or more likely the Young Jedi Knights book series that followed Anakin Solo and Tahiri.

>>77588288
>Incorrect according to Lucas.
1. Source?
2. I'm correct according to new canon material. C-3PO was only rebuilt by Anakin, and had previous masters

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/C-3PO/Canon

>He would have remembered that droid, anon.
He never says he doesn't remember a droid.

He only says he doesn't recall OWNING a droid, which is true, like I stated previously. Obi-Wan never owned a droid. His astromech was owned by the Republic.

>The whole thing still comes off as awkward since she wasn't awakened in the Force
Yes she is, she just hasn't learned to harness her powers. We've seen her feel things through the Force before, albeit unknowingly.

Just because Star Wars wasn't this huge thought-out story with every little detail chosen doesn't mean there aren't connections now that the 6 films have been made that may not have been originally intended, but are there now.

And that description Mark Hamill is describing still mostly fits with what we ended up getting(sans the forest)

Obi-Wan confronted Anakin/Vader on a volcanic planet. Vader was slowly taking control of Anakin, chipping away at the man Obi-Wan, Padme, and many people had come to know. After their duel and the "high ground" scene, Anakin/Vader fall to the edge of a lava river. As they're set on fire by the heat, Anakin is "killed". Vader crawls away, burned and scarred. Palpatine lands and finds Vader soon after Obi-Wan leaves the planet with Padme and the droids.

>>77588622
What did Ezra even do in this episode?

>>77588662
Spilled spaghetti.
Hungry rebels could have eaten that spaghetti, Ezra

>>77588632
I'm not too keen on having more Star Wars movies starring young kids (teenagers is fine) but at the same time it's kind of disheartening to hear that Lucas is going to have basically zero involvement in the new trilogy. It sounded like he was cool with being consulted but they didn't want him around.

It makes the video of Lucas asking what happened to Vader's grandkids and Abrams going "you tell me, you made this!" seem in poor taste now if they rejected his ideas and tried to keep him from getting involved.

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>>77588685
I think it's pretty clear Abrams and his generation dislike Lucas for making the prequels. They make the worst of the prequel haters look nice with that type of douchebaggery. Most of the internet haters wouldn't go so far to disrepect him in front of his face.

>>77588685
>It makes the video of Lucas asking what happened to Vader's grandkids and Abrams going "you tell me, you made this!" seem in poor taste now if they rejected his ideas and tried to keep him from getting involved.
Yeah, that seems pretty douchey now

>>77588685
>it's kind of disheartening to hear that Lucas is going to have basically zero involvement in the new trilogy
He wasn't really necessary to be honest. Some of the best of Star Trek (DS9) had nobody from older stuff helping out.

>>77588732
Nah, he's still canon because I say so.

You're honestly silly if you care what Disney has to say about canon.

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>>77587693
While we're on that note what the hell is this? Is JJ bringing Cortosis into the mix here or am I just an idiot?

>>77588815
Yeah but as TCW shows if you put a filter between his ideas and the actual execution, he actually does have some good ideas and input.

>>77588685
Lucas ruined his own franchise and sold it off to the highest bidder when he realized it. He deserves ridicule by the fanbase.

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>>77588863
>he actually does have some good ideas and input.

>>77588851
It's just an electrostaff.

It's cute seeing people here think they know the the whole story of why or why not Lucas is or isn't involved with the new movies and trying to paint people as villains.

>>77588851
It's just an electrified weapon, same as the magnaguards had.

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>>77588851
Electrified staves have always been able to repel lightsabers. Unless significant force is placed on them.

>>77588880
Bringing up Jar-Jar at this point is basically Godwin's Law.

>>77588851
Looks like a shock maul. I'm gonna guess Cloud Ren's cricket bat is made of something blaster/saber resistant though.

So Sabine and Ketsu fucked right?

>You always liked to make things go boom ;)
>I learned it from you ;) ;) ;)

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>>77588917
That's okay, there's more that I can choose from.

>>77588863
Even then he was dangerous.

We just BARELY lucked out out of being given Sith Revan in Mortis arc shitting all over Kotor.

>>77588898
Seems pretty shitty to try to leave the creator out completely.

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>>77588851
> JJ actually making Stormtroopers competent

>>77588951
>dissing muh jaga Dexter

Shit taste/10

>>77588951
Jar Jar sucked but what was wrong with Dexter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfjLZE6Pp5U

>>77588960
I mean, that was like, Filoni's idea.

>>77588200

I can agree with the core idea here. TFA seems to me reintroducing the same syndrome that turned me off post-Endor EU - the world had went to shit permanently, and the heroes at most can hold the line against the current apocalyptic threat, but never create any long-term stability. Except with TFA it is even worse. Also, certain decisions smell very strongly of design by comittee and associated pandering/playing safe. I'll still watch TFA for shit blowing up, but I expect nothing from the plot.

>>77588851
You're just an idiot, it's an electroweapon.

>>77588960
Those weren't force ghosts you know that right? He has actually established since the ROTS script that Sith can't become force ghosts.

>>77588961
Abrams has done a lot of dochebaggey things.

>>77588961
If the ideas wouldn't work, why would they use them?

It's all hearsay and there's no point in trying to put together a 100 piece puzzle when you only have a handful of pieces that were handed to you by a guy that may or may not be bitter.

>>77589008
And then there's this guy who thinks Abrams was even around when they were deciding where to go with the story and doesn't know it was Kennedy and the other higher ups that vetoed George's idea.

>>77589008
>Those weren't force ghosts you know that right?
WRONG

They specifically were, which is why he opted against it at last minute when they were about to go ahead with it.

Even though having a Sith Revan there having Sith ghosts there trapped on Mortis would have been 100% fine. After all, it was a failure of what the Sith were seeking, nobody wanted to be a fucking ghost trapped somewhere, being trapped goes against the entire idea of being completely free that the Sith enjoy.

So having Exar there would have been fine since it would have been a failed attempt at the immortality they were seeking, and he would be in a state of eternal misery and anguish as he sought to somehow free himself.

>>77589008
Well, thematically, that's been the case since ANH.

>I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
>Unless, you know, you did that Sith trick where you whined from your tomb all the time
>Bound yourself as an immortal wraith. Guess you could imagine it then.

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>>77588977
>>77588974

Because he is a useless character placed into a filler scene that didn't fit with Obi-Wan's character at all just to sell more toys? Let's start off there.

> there are people out there who will defend this.

>>77589036
>Even though having a Sith Revan there
Whoops

Meant having a Sith Revan there would have been a bad idea since for years we were told by the creators of the game the Light side ending was the canon one, the ghosts idea is fine when confined to Mortis. After all the Sith would have been experimenting with immortality so there being failed examples here and there makes perfect sense.

>>77588961
When the creator runs out of creative ideas and sells his life's work to a massive entertainment corporation, why would you want to involve him?

>>77588970

I wouldn't bet on that given that both JJ movies and MCU have an extensive track record of mook foes being worthless to the point that makes Stormtroopers look like terminators.

>>77588991
>Also, certain decisions smell very strongly of design by comittee and associated pandering/playing safe
Yeah, it's kind of telling that a lot of the story seems to be very close to ANH. Finn's story seems to be the only major part that doesn't have a direct parallel, at least of the stuff we've seen so far.

>>77589062
He didn't run out of ideas, he ran out of energy.

>>77589031
>and doesn't know it was Kennedy and the other higher ups that vetoed George's idea.

That is wrong. Arndt was still working on a script based on Lucas's ideas when Abrams came along. It's only when Abrams came along that he persuaded Disney to dump the ideas that Lucas had developed with Arndt due to time and brought in Kasdan.

>>77589040
>Anakin couldn't just move the skiff
>Anakin couldn't Force push him
>Couldn't move the slope he was on
>Coudln't fling lava at him
>Couldn't do anything but jump
>He was a cunning warrior
>Cunning warrior

Anakin forever stupid and Ben crazy in his old age

>>77589040
You could probably remove him and lose nothing but it seems like a minor thing to bitch about.

>>77589040
>filler scene
NEWSFLASH: All those sequences in detective flicks where they go talk to contacts in restaurants are now filler scenes! Some jerk on the internet said so!

>Didn't fit Obi-wan's character
Obi-wan has always been a jerk who knows who to talk to in shady bars. 50's diners are a step up for him.

>50's bars a long long time ago?
There've been lots of '50's!

>>77589040

Posting on the 4chan and not realizing what bait is when you see one... Or are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>77589108
>defending George's shitty creative decisions.

I could ask the same of you.

>>77589092
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/05/star-wars-the-force-awakens-vanity-fair-cover

>What that means in layperson language is that, in preparation for selling the company, which to some extent had been coasting on royalties from Star Wars toys and other merchandise, Lucas had decided to make more movies. He sketched out ideas for episodes VII, VIII, and IX, to be set initially several decades after Return of the Jedi, and approached Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill about re-upping. He shared his story outlines with Disney during their courtship phase. But after the deal was done, “Disney and Kathy decided they should consider other options,” as Abrams (not then involved) diplomatically put it. He said Lucas’s treatments had centered on very young characters—teenagers, Lucasfilm told me—which might have struck Disney executives as veering too close for comfort to The Phantom Menace and its 9-year-old Anakin Skywalker and 14-year-old Queen Amidala. “We’ve made some departures” from Lucas’s ideas, Kennedy conceded, but only in “exactly the way you would in any development process.”

>>77588936
I'd respond with "tumblr please leave" but this seems plausible plus she's mando. And we all know they fuck anything if it brings pleasure

>>77589173
Nope.

http://www.slashfilm.com/j-j-abrams-finally-discusses-michael-arndts-departure-from-star-wars-episode-vii/

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>>77588622
Next week Ezra flips some shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHDGb7bzMJ4

>>77589226
Are we not talking about when the decision to not use George's ideas were made? You're arguing that Arndt was let go because he didn't have a completed script and was out of time. I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying that Kathy and Disney made the choice to not follow George's ideas before Abrams was even around to have a say in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQQPzHerrPE
>Freddie Prinze played me, we're mistaken for each other all the time, it was a natural choice

Heh.

>>77589226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yojiARF12s

Probably what exactly happened.

Did anyone actually think anything good would come out of a series with a space jew as the main protagonist?

>>77589523
>jew
I don't think you know what that even means

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I think whats been going horribly wrong this season that last season didn't have nearly as bad is pacing special thanks to Greg Weisman. Greg in all his shows plays a slow but steady season 1, and puts all the set pieces in place for an amazing season 2. With Greg only doing season 1, the plot just got dropped like a rock and the only chance we'll ever see "shit get real" now is during a season finale.

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>>77589040
Then remove 90% of characters from everything. Fucking autists I swear.

>Carrie Fisher retweets that panel of Leia with a lightsaber
https://twitter.com/Fatoch4/status/667505530672439296

Heheheheh.

>>77589066

The actual trailer disagrees with you.

>>77589546

The season isn't even half-way through. Stop acting like a little bitch about everything.

>>77589620

Because trailers absolutely never misrepresent movies and cherry-pick the best shots, right?

>>77589677

No, that Stormtrooperhas already done a fine enough job of defending himself against a lightsaber.

>>77589664
Season 1 took 4 episodes to get interesting. How long is it going to take season 2? How long are we going to go through threatless random episodic endevours that advance nothing? I can tell you next episode isn't it, and that's past the half way point.

Who's hyped for the next rebels episode ? Now that we're past all the fillers we're finally getting down to the good stuff. I'm hoping Ezra really shows off some cool stronk mein character shit

>>77589710
Unless a main character is killed off, nothing will make me continue watching this kid-pandering trainwreck of a show.

>>77589732

Bye.

>>77589732
Fair enough, we can talk about the episode next week my brother

Man, Boyega might be the best actor to act in Star Wars. His delivery has been on the mark.

>>77589696
They should send Hera to random planets to fight mooks in her ship every episode, that at least would be fun.

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>>77589710
>Now that we're past all the fillers
While the Interdictor-class Star Destroyer was something that had me hyped, you have to realize by now this is just going to be another pointless side adventure.

The Interdictor blows up at the end of the episode.

>>77589696
I dunno, Siege of Lothal and the clone two-parter were interesting. Always Two was okay, Hondo was fun, the Hera and Sabine episodes have honestly been the only boring ones.

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>>77589792
I still look forward to it, I have a high optimistic view about shitty things

>>77589568
You saved that? Kek.