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Batman Europa actually came out. How long ago was this first

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Batman Europa actually came out.

How long ago was this first announced?

Anyway, storytime.

Will be posting alt covers.

Won't be posting ads.
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>>77546087
Alt cover.
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>>77546101
And another "variant" that looks exactly the fucking same as the standard cover.
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>>77546110
And here we go.
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>>77546121
Give it a bump if you're reading.
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>>77546126
I normally hate Jim Lee, but this actually doesn't look half bad.
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>>77546121
gaaaaayyyyy
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>>77546130
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>>77546121
Thats gay
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>>77546121
>>77546130
>it's a Joker and Batman are gay for each other story
Good thing Snyder isn't involved.
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>>77546130
gaaaaayyyyy
It looks real good
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>>77546138
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>>77546150
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>>77546150
what?
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>>77546160
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>>77546169
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>>77546165
It wouldn't be Croc if he didn't get his ass handed to him.
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>>77546181
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>>77546183
No, what was that attack in the last panel? did he just throw himself at him?
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>>77546191
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>>77546205
>>77546183
Has Killer Croc ever been a threat?
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>>77546211
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>>77546211
>>77546196
Looks like a lunging headbutt.
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>>77546236
Actually kind of liking this art. I'm surprised. Probably the best thing Jim Lee has done since his X-Men run.
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>>77546255
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>>77546268
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>>77546278
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>>77546300
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>>77546307
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>>77546318
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>>77546328
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>>77546337
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>>77546318
>dying with your head buried in tits
A good death.
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>>77546351
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>>77546369
What are you guys reading this week?

I'm waiting on Huck.
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>>77546390
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>>77546404
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>>77546420
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>>77546438
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>>77546457
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>>77546121
Well this got homoerotic pretty quick.
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>>77546473
So what do you guys think?
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>>77546130
>I'm ready to go all the way and do it
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>>77546502
So far so good, and the Joker is being funny for once and that's a miracle
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>>77546502
Kinda gay, pretty good.
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>>77546121
>>77546130
Snyder wishes he could write something this gay
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>>77546121
Page One, and Azz already starts with the homo undertones. Shit, he's beend doing this to Batman since his Hellblazer days.
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>>77546211
His first story was him as Bane basically, before there was bane.
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>>77546671
Well this was written in 2004.
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>>77546502
I like when Joker isn't full-on edgelord.
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>>77546850
This. I'm already loving the design, and if he cracks a few jokes, he's perfect.

I'm ready for their road trip.
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Is Jim sticking around for the rest of the series or it's Camuncoli on his own from now on?
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This shit is too gay.
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>>77546502
I liked it a lot and Jim Lee did a great job not looking like typical Jim Lee, too bad he's not doing the rest of the book.
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>>77547086
Camuncoli is doing the layouts, but the artists rotate each issue
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>>77547123
No such thing.
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>>77546121
REEEEE GOD FUCKING DAMN IT IM SO SICK OF THEM FUELING THIS JOKER BATMAN HOMOLUST STOP IT DAMN IT STOP
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>>77547237
Death of the Family and Endgame were.
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>>77547258
Does it give you a funny feeling in your pants?
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>>77547201
Who's next?
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>>77547349
No but it makes faggot casuals constantly talk about how they are gay for each other while also ruining the core motivation for Joker.

Joker is only obsessed with Batman cause he finds his whole crusade a joke since Gotham can't be saved. He's entertained by Batman not in love with him.
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>>77546255
The colorist is also pulling his weight.
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>>77546328
>Eder Anodel
It means something?
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Never heard of "Batman Europa". What's the deal with it?
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>>77547764
OLD AS FUCK comic that got delayed for an insanely long time and Jim Lee just now got off his fucking ass and drew the first issue of. Who knows if the others will ever come out or not.

Shit's literally older than Captain America White.
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>>77546502
Team-up of year.
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>>77546502
>batman-joker team up

BASED
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I know Europa is old as shit but this Joker over saturation is getting to be pants on head retarded.

How long do we have to wait until we get good stories consistently again with other villains? 5 more years? A decade?
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>>77547811
So there IS a chance Lee gets off his fucking ass and eventually draw Miller's conclusion to The Goddamn Batman?
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>>77547976
Right now Snyder's doing a Batman book with his usual stretchy bony clawy antagonist. Detective is also Joker-free.
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>>77548070
I refuse to read anymore of Snyder's stuff until he gets off the book. I won't support that man Slotting it up.
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Damn, I love how Jim draws Bats and Joker, this was a pretty issue.
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>>77546211

there was that rock that one time
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>>77546121
I already like it.
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>>77547450
Eh, the idea goes back to at least Morrison's Arkham Asylym in 1989, and probably before in subtext that Morrison just made explicit.

You're REEing over a portrayal of the Joker-Batman relationship that's at least 26 years old at this point. Sorry, it's part of the greater Batman mythos mix by now, anon.
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>>77548768
Ummm Arkham Asylum was a fucking elseworld and in no way should have been interpreted as the main canon. Batman is also into hurting himself in that and stabs a shard of glass through his hand. That whole thing had deep sexual overtones that were never meant for the main universe. Writers should not be that retarded.
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>>77547450

fuck off back to /r9k/ you frogfaggot loser
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>>77548132
>putting Snyder in the same category as Slott

Did Snyder rape and kill your mom in front of you or something?
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>>77548866
Basically. He raped and killed my Bruce and turned him into a handicapped man child and just copy and pasted Morrison's run, poorly for the most part.

Hell he even put in his sleeper bad guy girl with Julie and gave her red hair. It's not even subtle.
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>>77548815
Are you fucking retarded? Europa is also clearly an elseworld.
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>>77548815
Ah, I see. Good luck in your struggle with autism, anon.
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>>77548922
You casuals are entirely responsible for this version of the Joker.
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>>77548942
>citing decades of depictions in comics = casuals

You probably just saw BTAS as a kid and get mad that anything from the actual comics is not MUH CARTOON BATMAN
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>>77548918
>it's an elseworld too so we need these sexual overtones!

I actually liked the issue but I see what that anon means. That opening page was not only unnecessary it was also very clearly casual bait cause Bathaters love that shit.
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>>77549077
No I actually prefer ONeil's version. Or Morrison's from his in canon run. Or Ditko. Or literally any other depiction except what has been done recently with all this homolust.
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>>77549082
>the overtones were okay in arkham asylum because it's an elseworlds!
>the overtones in this aren't okay even though it's an elseworlds!
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>>77546502
Batman is fucked. Literally.

I love it
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Known countries?
>Berlin
>Paris
>Prague

Id assume a British city as well, maybe even Scottish that ties to the Wayne roots.
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>>77547980
I wouldn't be surprised if shitty DCYou sales and Miller's imminent death are making him work faster tbqh.
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>>77546183
>>77546165
>>77546196
Jim Lee is a horrendous fight artist.
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>>77546121
GAY FROM THE FIRST PAGE.
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>>77549603
Just the way you like it, right
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>>77549115

Snyder's Batman run is much more like O'Neil's than Morrison's pretentious bullshit.
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>>77548815
Morrison's notes in the anniversary edition says he thinks of Arkham Asylum as a dream that Batman was having.

Also as far as Joker being gay, I think in James Van Hise's Batmania there was a mention that Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams always thought of the Joker as being gay, but I've yet to find corroborating sources. On the other hand James Van Hise sometimes posts on other comics message boards so maybe I should've just asked him in the first place.
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>>77546101
this is cool and all, but hasn't Benjerimo drawn batman in this pose like 20 times now?
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>>77546502
Batman/Joker team ups are great
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>>77546101
>>77549775
first image that pops up on google.
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>>77548911
the rip off is insane I hate it. He took everything from Morrison's except for the good characterization of Batman that drove the story. He's 90's guest issue edge Batman now
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>>77549115
>Morrison
>Not including the Joker homolust in AA
Fuck off casual
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>>77549817

What Snyder has done is removed all the stupid cosmic tapestry bullshit from Morrison's stories and turned them into BATMAN stories.
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>>77549653
Kek it's 1:1 a copy of Morrison's run. Does someone have the copy pasta of all the comparisons?

Hell even Julie is basically just Jezebel Jet and will undoubtedly be evil. He even gave her red hair.
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>>77549801
>WURRS DUH DRIGGERRR
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>>77549846
Why don't you read the fucking thread.

See >>77549696
>>77548815
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>>77549849
>Stupid cosmic tapestry

Kek plebest of tastes. You know anything about thematics?
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>>77549858

Stupid, Julie Madison has been a Batman character for decades and there is zero chance she'll be a secret villain.

And also, Jezebel Jet was a horrendous character.
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>>77549849
Yea but that doesn't matter if he characterizes Batman like an edgelord manchild.
Morrison wrote Batman stories too, about Batman becoming a better superhero and father. Just because you don't like the whacky sci-fi elements of Batman, doesn't mean they're not valid tot he character.
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>>77549877
>Hurr canon is what's important
Popular works shape public perception. Like TDKR
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>>77549858
>Hell even Julie is basically just Jezebel Jet and will undoubtedly be evil.
Snyder has said he's gonna not do that or kill her to make Bruce Batman again

However, watch her be the daughter or niece or something of Joe Chill or Mr Bloom
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>>77549915
Wanna place a bet on that? Julie will be evil. If Snyder has shown anything it's that he doesn't care about past characterizations of characters.
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>>77549953
Literally cancer. Public perception is cancer that kills good characters.
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>>77549900

Thematic elements are fine, but when it becomes an obstacle in the flow of the narrative, it becomes a hassle.

Denny O'Neil, the best Batman writer, wrote complex Batman narratives, but you never needed a fucking roadmap and a guide book to read each issue. His run wasn't some fucking puzzle box to decipher.

Dixon, Moench, Dini, these people didn't write time god gestalt continuity Batman. They just wrote fucking BATMAN. And wrote him well. And so does Snyder.

This fucking Morrison worship has made /co/ unbearable. Just because he's ambitious, doesn't mean he's good. His stories are lopsided and he tries way too hard to prove how clever he is. I just want to read a Batman story.
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>>77550015
>ut when it becomes an obstacle in the flow of the narrative, it becomes a hassle.

So you are a retard that find morrison hard? I hate your kind, you idiots should try open real books, Morrison is not complex at all, is just that you are so used to DUMBED DOWN action driven shit you get mad when you actually have to read the dialogues. Fuck of pleb. Harry Potter must be extremely hard for the likes of you.
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>>77550015
>I'm a retard that can't pick up on basic story elements. I want dumbed down self contained Batman arcs that in no way have an over arcing connection.

Fixed that for you.
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>>77550050

Oh, so you must've hated the Batman stories all those other writers I mentioned wrote because they weren't smart enough?

Stop trying so hard to defend your girlfriend Morrison. I can handle complexities in storytelling, but not when it's superfluous and poorly written.
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>>77550124
Those other stories are great but it in no way makes Morrison's work any less great just because he tied his entire run together with story elements. If you think they "get in the way", not to sound pretentious, but you probably just hadn't read enough Batman to understand them. Not everything has to be new reader friendly, stuff can be made for old readers.
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>>77550164
>t you probably just hadn't read enough Batman to understand them

Man are you thickheaded.

I understood what he was doing. I didn't think it was necessary, and I found it clumsy how it was executed. I just fucking named a bunch of writers whose Batman material I've read. In their entirety. Do you know how many decades of Batman that is?

But yeah, I probably just haven't read that much Batman. Just all of Dixon, all of Moench, all of Dini, all of O'Neil. Plus Englehart, Rucka, Brubaker, Miller, Conway, Robbins, Barr, and others.

None of these writers had to overcomplicate the formula. They just wrote good Batman stories. And I'd include Snyder among their numbers before I'd include Morrison.
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>>77550248
Well I found it quite enjoyable and enjoyed the references. You like self contained arcs. That's an opinion and you are entitled to it.
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>>77547258
>>77547450
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>>77546130
>>77546121
This is homosexual as fuck, good lord.
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>>77546150
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>>77546169
I don't know what you guys think but I'm not found of Croc's design here. The eyes look out of place and the scales look like random dashes.
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Like seriously, what's up with all the random lines and dashes everywhere in the art? Can an artist explain it to me? Is it supposed to make it look lively, or detailed, or is it supposed to be a "style" ?

I find it ruins everything.
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>>77551996
It's Lee's style. Always has been.

It's kind of a hallmark of that late 80s/early 90s generation of artists' style.
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>>77546502

> tfw dem Bats & Joker hype feels

Thanks OP
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Ignoring the gayness of the first page, is this still related to Batman getting amnesia and Superman losing his powers? Or is this another alternate Earth thing?

Speaking of the amnesia thing, why didnt his alternate ego batman plan work during that?
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>>77546227
How the fuck is your first guess to who would leave clues to a crime the joker and not Nygma?
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>>77546211
He is a threat to alcoholism.
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>>77546502
Maybe I missed something, but why does batman need joker to tag along? I don't see anything he'd know that he didn't already just say.
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>>77552180
This was written in 2004 so just place it somewhere in Pre-New52
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>>77546404
Holy crap the art is terrible.
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>>77547450
You couldn't be more wrong and you sound casual denying Jokerlove.
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>>77553871
Yeah cause him being depicted like that in maybe 3 runs is totally valid for why that is how he truly acts. Go read some more Snyder stories little baby.
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>>77546211
>Foxdie
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>>77546087
>Batman Europa and Captain America White actually came out during my lifetime
Berserk and HxH ending soon!
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>>77546502
this is the true dinamic duo!
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>>77551659
Jim Lee is easily the most aesthetically ugly artist in comics history.
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>>77549115
>Or Ditko.
Ditko had a Batman run?
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>>77559970
Joker was in his Robin run. He kidnaps Tim Drake on Christmas. It was pretty fucking scary.
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>>77560034
You're thinking of Dixon or someone else, not Ditko.
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>>77560034
wat.
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>>77546121
>All those people trying to claim Bats and Joker aren't fags for one another
Batfags are so deluded.
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>>77546130
When do they fuck?
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>>77560812
Point and case why this shit needs to stop. They only do it cause they know Bathaters and casuals love it so they can make fun of Batman and they know Batfags will read it anyway.
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>>77546087

When it comes to Batman's thoughts I always feel like less is more.
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So it's basically Arkham City?
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>>77562175
Akham knight had a similar plot, now we need to see if this is funnier
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>>77550248
>Just all of Dixon, all of Moench, all of Dini, all of O'Neil. Plus Englehart, Rucka, Brubaker, Miller, Conway, Robbins, Barr,

The only ones on your list I'd consider better than Morrison are Englehart, O'Neil, and Miller, maybe Dini. Some others are about even (Snyder, Robbins) and I'd rather read Morrison's Batman again before I ever read Bruce Wayne Murderer/Fugitive/whatever ever again.
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>>77546502
>Damn. Damn. Damn.
Batman going all tsundere is my fetish.
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>>77560855
When they get to Prague obsviously.
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