/co/, how did Marvel get so much right back in it's (70's-80's)

>Frank Miller's Daredevil
>Roger Stern's Spider-Man
>Bill Mantlo's Hulk
>Mark Gruenwald's Captain America
>Walt Simonson's Thor
>David Michelinie's Iron Man
>Doug Moench's Moon Knight

holy shit you're right

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>>77401441
>>77402075

There were also flops and misfires that were quickly forgotten.

>>77402075
I've literally never see someone call a Bronze Age Iron Man book good, let alone be mentioned among all those other great titles

Why does /co/ suck Jim Shooter dick so much when he killed this?

>>77403453

They know McDuffie liked him, and they've read Shooter's blog, the latter of which is biased and selectively omits his editorial failures and shortcomings.

>>77403133

Wait is this a Kirby series I haven't read?

>>77402075

Not forgetting

>Steve Gerber's Howard the Duck, Man-Thing and Defenders
>Steve Englehart's Dr. Strange
>Doug Moench's Master of Kung-Fu and Werewolf by Night
>Don McGregor's Black Panther
>Jim Starlin's Warlock
>Roger Stern's Dr. Strange and Avengers
>Alan Moore's Captain Britain
>Most of the first half of Chris Claremont's X-Men phase before it got stale during the end of the 80's

>>77403807

Nope, he just did the one-off cover.

The series was a big editorial mess, it got hung up on so many things it never told a coherent story.

I'm not shocked it got cancelled after six issues.

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>>77403365
The Micheline/Layton runs in the 80s gave us Demon in a Bottle (the alcoholism arc), Doomquest (where he time travels with Dr. Doom to Camelot), and Armor Wars. It was nothing really GOAT to me, but it was great superhero comics.

>>77403819
>>77402075
All great, plus
>Englehart Captain America and Avengers
>Kirby Cap and Eternals
>Claremont New Mutants (especially with Sienkiewicz and McLeod)
>Starlin Captain Marvel

Two-in-One is probably my favorite thing from that era

The Bronze Age was where guys who grew up with 50's sci-fi, Simon & Kirby and early Marvel became writers at Marvel, and as fans are wont to do they tried to take the stories from their youth to the next level.

Subsequent eras went too far in that dark and serious direction in my opinion.

>>77403365
Nah Bronze Age Iron Man is severely underrated. We got O'Neil building stuff that would become definitive to the character's future and Starlin's entire career basically spun out of his Iron Man shit.

>>77402075
>Doug Moench's Moon Knight
>Implying Sienkiewicz wasn't what made that run memorable

>>77403453
Was Shooter the guy who nearly got raped in a YMCA shower, then wrote it into a Hulk story?

It was when the writers didn't grow up as comic fanboys if I had to guess, i mean even as recent as the British Invasion guys vs Bendis and Johns

ironically shooter's the exception

>>77405281
>It was when the writers didn't grow up as comic fanboys if I had to guess
roy thomas exists
the fact that he was born destroys the credibility of your guess

>>77405214
Having read Moench's Moon Knight sans-Sienkiewicz I'd still rather read Moench's Moon Knight over most every other writer that came after.

>>77405281
You don't know shit about comics history, Roy Thomas, Mark Gruenwald, Roger Stern, John Byrne, and others were definitely comics fans and worked on fanzines long before getting into the industry.