Are there any good dieselpunk comics or cartoons. I guess Korra

The Goon

I sincerely hope that nothing ever goes the way of steampunk ever again.

>>77387400

>steampunk

Where does he keep the boiler?

>Dieselpunk

That's just bass player.

>>77387465
I kinda like the concept and the aesthethics of steampunk, but I can't for the life of me understand why it attracted such a massive quantity of retardes glueing gears to their pants.

>>77387558
>Where does he keep the boiler?
In his hat of course

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I thought Dieselpunk was shit like Mad Max and Tankgirl

>>77387611
it was victorian fetishism that required zero historical accuracy. Sherlock Holmes vs the Clockwork Automatons is a pretty easy concept to sell.

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>dieselpunk

>>77387400
Hellboy and Lobster Johnson are dieselpunk.

Rocketer has some elements of it.

>>77387680
Yes and no. It can be like that, but it can also be like steampunk but everything runs on shit-tier diesel/gas engines instead of steam and clockwork.

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Lady Mechanika has been pretty cool. Oddly doing a lot of what is wrong with Steampunk and what is right.

>>77387465
steampunk can be done well, the league of extraordinary gentlemen for example

>>77387680

That's Post-apocalyptic. Diesel is more 30's to 50's tech.

>>77387680
Nah, that's post-apunkalyptic and desert punk.
Shotgun is what he's gonna use
Then you've got yourself a sinaboatsu~

>>77387848
based on OP's picture its just normal early modern clothing

>>77387842
>No pointless goggles on her hat that she never uses or has need for
>No brass gears glued to her corset
>No vacuum tubes attached to her gun
That's not steampunk anon.

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>>77387875
This is a better example.

>>77387400

Are you that guy who makes a new dieselpunk thread to /tg/ every week and hates steampunk for some reason?

>>77387937
I only went on /tg/ once to start a Mouse Guard thread and nobody replied

>>77387906
That's just retrofuturism.
Like Fallout

>>77387998
The Style things should have now instead of that boxy non chrome bullshit.

>>77387906
oh will you fucking put a shirt on

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Best Example

>>77387906
what about this is "punk"

Is "punk" now just added to anything to mean "different reality that features said thing"?

>>77387400
These both look autistic, one is just more subtle. Why would you actively try to dress like Ryan Gosling in The Notebook?

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>steampunk and dieselpunk
Those are nice, but I personally prefer some good ol' raygun gothic.

>>77388093
From what I understand, the "punk" part originally came from early cyberpunk, where the main character was usually a punk rebelling against the futuristic society. The "punk" part just stuck, which is why it's tagged onto anything that's "cyberpunk, except with X instead of cyber".

>>77387465
Steam Boy was cool.

>>77388210
yeah, and it worked with cyberpunk, because those worlds were kind of punk.

eventually we will degrade the world down to "normal punk" which will just be the regular way of dressing.

agh

>>77388129
Whatever fake Tomorrowland and Meet The Robbinsons was, that's the kind of punk for me.

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>>77387400
"Desert Punk" also called "Apunkalypse" is the only oood "punk" genre thing

Also, this gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCuE5rHbPA

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>>77387400
Top 10: The Forty-Niners

>>77387400
I've been wondering what is it with steampunk and gears. It's got steam in the name, I'd expect more, you know, steam. And pipes. Instead designs tend to look like Clock King's guro porn collection.

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>>77388677
>like Clock King's guro porn collection

>>77387400
Isn't there this one series about Nazi superweapons that gets storytimed once in a while?

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>>77388333
That's Raygun Gothic. Think The Jetsons, Flash Gordon, Star Trek TOS(arguably).

>>77387998
Fallout is actually Atomicpunk.

Dieselpunk is 30's-40's, Atomicpunk is 50's and 60's.

Nobody gives a fuck about the 70's. Star Wars maybe, whatever punk it is.

80's-futuristic Blade Runner/Shadowrun/Ghost In The Shell knockoff is Cyberpunk.
>>77388093
The first "punk" story was a sci fi short story from 1980 titled "Cyberpunk" which was the inspiration for Blade Runner, the first Cyberpunk visual work. If he'd called it "Cyberskub" or something, we'd be saying Steamskub, Dieselskub, and so on.

>>77388677
That's because idiots don't bother making the distinction between steampunk and clockpunk

Steampunk is supposed to be wild wild west like stuff. Clockpunk is the victorian-era switches, springs and gears style that everyone calls steampunk

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>looks up seapunk

Those fuckers!

Oceanpunk it is then. Cause fuck pirates.

>>77390400
Riverpunk a best.

>>77390462
Trailpunk is patrician

>>77389596
>Cyberskub
Well with Skub in the name, it might actually be decent instead of fucking garbage.

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>>77390462

Shove off Huckleberry.

>>77390592
>skub is a decent suffix
How the fuck can you unironically like skub?

>>77390592
Because being a blatant shill for the corporate Skub interests like everyone else is sooo much better than being a rebel without a clue.

>>77390621
>being anti-skub
Get a load of this nigger

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>>77390400
You don't want in with the seapunk crowd mate.

>>77388638
diggin this art style

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eh?

>>77390647
>this is how skubfags actually behave
Skubfags ladies and gentlemen

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>>77387906
That looks straight out of Last Exile

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Biopunk is best punk

Ib4 BIOPUNK IS JUST CYBERPUNK GUISE

>>77387400
>writing Steampunk in comic sans
It's the little things.

>>77390670
>stoners who hang out by the pool and dye their hair teal
Oh no, aquatic themed goths. The horror the horror.

>>77390827
Nobody actually thinks that. Although, biopunk can exist within cyberpunk works.

>>77389596
>whatever punk it is
It's science fucking fiction
Not everything is a "something-punk" you meme loving shitter.

>>77390921
Well specifically, Star Wars falls into the space opera category.

*punk is harmful (& autistic). Not as much for consumers/reviewers, but if you as a creator intentionally set your story in a -punk setting you're just unnecessarily restricting what you can do with and binding yourself to enacting a list of tired old tropes in order to fit in.

>>77390998
>ACKSHUALLY
No.

>>77387400
Is there a magicpunk or ruinpunk? What would those look like?

>>77390921
No, it can be fantasy and still be -punk.

>>77391001
>everything should be broad and non-specific in order to appeal to as wide an audience as possible
>fuck what you like
I had no idea executives browsed 4chan.

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>>77391064
way to misread my post friendo

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I'm into medievalpunk

>>77387844
How was that steampunk?

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What is this fucking fixation on labeling the extreme minutiae in fictional settings? Does fucking everything have to be categorized and given a punk prefix?

No really. Trigger warning for my buzzword but is this some autistic thing I just don't understand?

>>77391001
That's like saying you're limiting yourself by writing a noir pulp story.

If you're using the theme to define the story, you're limiting yourself. But -punk is the category you fall into.

Twilight Zone is pioneerpunk, Napoleonpunk, dieselpunk, and atomicpunk for example. With a bit of speculative fiction.
The stories are set in their times, but not defined by it. For example, the episode with the Confederates on their way to Gettysburg who discover black magic. The story is Napoleonicpunk but is defined by the story rather than just being a generic plot themed with the American Civil War.

Otherwise you'd have to either stick to historical plausibility or make a whole setting up each time.

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>>77391057
Er let me rephrase that.

What would you consider the stone machines run by magic with tron lines from Disney's atlantis? What would that be called?

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>>77391191
What the fuck that not the image I chose

>>77391191
That might be Dungeon Punk.

I have no real idea though.

>>77391118
That's basically what you are saying. Despite your claims, there is no harm in being specific. Or does creative freedom stop being okay the instant YOU disagree with something?

>>77391167
>What is this fucking fixation on labeling the extreme minutiae in fictional settings?
That's how human beings work, tard ass. Where the hell have you been?

>>77391172
>Otherwise you'd have to either stick to historical plausibility or make a whole setting up each time.
I don't see that there's anything wrong with that.

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>>77391130
Naw man, nowpunk is where it's at.

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>>77387400
>that fucking manlet in the steampunk picture

>>77387400
Have a look a Skies of Fire, not read much but the art is pretty great

>>77391156
If its Victorian fiction with fantasy elements, its Steampunk.

20,000 Leagues Under The Sea is Steampunk.

See, -punk isn't supposed to be a style. It's a category of fiction which includes fantastical or advanced elements.
If you decide to write a story about World War 2 story incolving alien tech and/or a wizard, you've written a Dieselpunk story. You didn't set out intending to write one, and you didn't have the protagonist wearing a gas-powered fedora, but it fits into thw category.

Then you inspire some knockoffs who do a tited, vanilla story starring a ripoff of Indiana Jones with a gas powered fedora and cite you as inspiration for their gas-powered fedora convention.

>>77391001
Only if you're that bad at writing. This is like saying using a rhyme scheme limited the grandeur of Shakespeare. A 'punk' setting is nothing more than a backdrop to tell a story within. The limitations are just pillars to build your narrative around.

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>>77387400
Your aesthetics are dumb.

Give me vaporwave comics/cartoons.

>>77391167
Because categorization is what humans do.

That's why every subspecies of animal has two latin names and fits onto a chart.
-punk is just the new terminology.

>>77391312
Vaporwave is dead, anon.

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>>77391358
dude.

>>77388129
>>77387400
Is this some TV tropes shit? Making up awful names for settings

>>77391001
Get a load of this pleb.
Restricting yourself stylistically or otherwise is a widely used technique by writers and artists in general. That's like, the fucking basis of poetry, it rhymes.
What, you're just not going to have a setting? You're just going to go with "anything fucking goes, here's robots and aztecs and giant ants motherfucker, creativity!"?
Because really, that's not so far to a lot of *punk stories anyway.

>>77391226
Sometimes you need to create a whole universe on Tolkien scale for one story.

Sometimes, you just want to write a story about a peddler in the 1950's who tries to outwit the grim reaper.

Besides, by creating a whole new tyoe of setting, you're just birthing a new -punk.

There's only twelve kinds of fiction you can possibly write, remember.
>Adventure
>Romance
>Fantasy
>Science Fiction
>Historical/plausible
>Horror
>Mystery
>Comedy

Nothing fictional you can write doesn't fall into one of those.

>>77387400
love and rockets
has it parts

and it's good

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>>77391167
Everyone does that. We always try to understand how things work, understanding starts with studying, and studying starts with sorting and labeling.

>>77391231
The current age is "Digitalpunk".
Cyberpunk in theiry comes after us.
>>77391412
-punk predates Tropes.
-punk as a category of fiction became a term in the late 80's.

Tropes are a late 2000's term relating to elements of fiction.
The two are not mutually exclusive, nor are the early 1969's ideas of subcategorizing genre.

>>77391511
*theory
*early 1960's

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>>77391321
>-punk is just the new terminology.
Well could you stop forcibly perpetuating that? It didn't take long for someone to point out that what you're looking for is already called retro-futurism.

In fact i'm looking at this thread and every time a genre is mentioned some autist almost certainly you wonders aloud "what kind of -punk is that?" And the response is always, "It fucking isn't." Because it fucking isn't.

So stop.

>>77391449
>by creating a whole new tyoe of setting, you're just birthing a new -punk.
oh you're trolling. this is some poes law shit right here.

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>>77391281
>20,000 Leagues Under The Sea is Steampunk.
Eh. Steampunk evolved to imitate Jules Verne and science fiction writings of the time they're depicting (notably by having scientifically impossible machines like pic related from Verne's Robur the Conqueror), that doesn't retroactively make Jules Verne steampunk.

>>77391568
Different anon, but why do you care?

>>77391449
Historical isn't exactly a genre anon. Also you forgot tragedy you pleb.

>>77391497
>waïkiki
Shit that takes me back.

>>77391568
You. I like you.

>>77387465
Cyberpunk was pretty fucking huge in it's heyday, but nowhere near as obnoxious as Steampunk is

>>77391568
>what you're looking for is already called retro-futurism.
Ackshully, retro-futurism is a generic term for every fiction that imitates futuristic/science fiction writing from a past period.
Most *punk genre are retro-futuristic, but not all of them are.
Besides, they can have codes other tham retro-futurism, like Steampunk is often fanfiction-like in featuring characters from pre-existing stories, like League of the Extraordinary Gentlemen.

I agree that naming everything *punk is kind of stupid and gay though.

>>77391568
That wasn't me.
You seem to have some emotional trauma related to the idea of fiction having themes, and taking place in times other than your backyard five minutes in the future.

Or is it just the -punk suffix you have such disdain for?

You could just call it Steam Fiction, Atmoc Fiction, and Cyber Fiction and it'd mean the same.

If your problem is people being lazy and just writing a categort rather than story, that's not exclusive to -punk. For example, Twilight is just Romance written as a genre rather than story. Dean Koontz writes Horror and Thriller, not stories that are Horror or Thriller fiction. You could call it Romancepunk or Thriller punk, it'd mean the exact same.

If the problem is attention whores dressed up in tophats with cogs and brass-painted dollar store laser gun toys, that's a problem with fandom rather than -punk. You get the same for everything people like.

So what is it that irks you so?

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>>77391511
>The current age is "Digitalpunk".
I'd have called it memepunk tbhfam

>>77389596
do androids dream of electric sheep, which blade runner is based on, was released in 1968

>>77391771
>memepunk
Oh fuck. Fuck. Fuck you.

>>77391610
Steampunk doesn't refer to an era of things wrotten, it refers to a category of fiction.
The "Horror" category came after Bram Stoker's Dracula was written. But it does then later get added.
>>77391654
Historical is actually, for example a fictionalized account of a soldier. Red Badge Of Courage is Historical Fiction.

Also, yes I did. I'm sorry.

>>77391771
Well meme'd.

>>77391281
>If its Victorian fiction with fantasy elements, its Steampunk.
I feel like this is a too broad categorization.
Shouldn't steampunk have something to do with steam?
>>77391497
>formicapunk
Antpunk?

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Alan Moore's Nemo trilogy (It's a LOEG spin-off)

>>77391700
I'd say thats because the implications of cyberpunk technology (AI, cybernetic bodies, etc) are ripe for creating intriguing speculative fiction stories. Whereas the question: "What if it was steam powered?" doesn't conjure much.

>>77391815
I guess rather than Victorian, you have to say Age of Industrialization.
The two go hand in hand but I guess you could have one and not the other.

Would a story of a Japan expy in a Russian-Japanese War/World War 1 scenario still be Steampunk?

>>77391799
>Steampunk doesn't refer to an era of things wrotten, it refers to a category of fiction.
Actually it's both. For it to be retro-fiction, and thus qualify as steampunk, it has to qualify as "retro", and thus written after the period it's set in.
Not to be that guy, but I read a book about the history of steampunk one bored summer, I'm pretty sure I know more about the genre's definition and codes than you do.

>Historical is actually, for example a fictionalized account of a soldier. Red Badge Of Courage is Historical Fiction.
That's war.
Historical isn't a genre, it's a type of setting. You can have anything genre historical.

>>77391771
>memepunk
Can you just kill that word from existence? I don't think you know what you've done.

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>>77391917
4chanpunk
Redditpunk
Gaiapunk
9gagpunk
Facebookpunk
Myspacepunk
Craigslistpunk

I don't even have to say what the next one is. You're already thinking of it and desperately trying to think of literally any other website to say instead.

>>77389324
We need more poorly named retrofuturistic pseudogenres.
Where's my Pioneer Pop/Lumberpunk? Where's Greco-Roman Grunge? What about Last 2-3yearsofthe1970spunk?

>>77387400
Nice strawman image. Next time post real steampunk instead of disgusting cogfop.

>>77387848
Dieselpunk can be earlier than that. In my opinion WWI dieselpunk is the best dieselpunk.

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>>77391998
What about 1992-Sears-Catalog-Punk?

Sometimes the human need to categorize things can lead to downright stupid shit.

>>77392072
It's funny because if a behavior is "normal" nobody feels that it's bad.

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>>77391998
>Where's Greco-Roman Grunge
I'm pretty retro-future greco-roman has a name already but I don't remember.
>What about Last 2-3yearsofthe1970spunk
That's stoner fiction innit.

>>77387400
>dieselpunk
literally just real life

>>77391824

Yeah, to most people steampunk is just about the aesthetics. A great example of that is OP's picture >>77387400. In the last 10 years steampunk has degraded into cringeworthy cogfap.

>>77392117
>The show lasted longer than the actual decade
That show needed to learn when to wrap shit up, namely BEFORE blond Eric showed up.

>>77387400
that's not diesel punk.
that's just some leddit mfa faggot with his redwing clownshoes lmao

>>77390670
i t ' s a l l i n y o u r h e д d 2 0 0 0

DinduPunk
/pol/-Punk
Kek-Punk
Might as well go down this route-punk

But how do you guys care enough to break shit down like this? Some of the sub-categories read like nonsense.

lobster johnson? also isn't weird war x is part of dieselpunk? so how about things like atomic robo: dogs of war
>>77391312
moonbeam city?

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>>77392039
Face it, /co/. You're predictable.

So go on, say it. SAY IT.

>>77392171
I'd say it started to degrade when Donna went blonde, but yeah, season 8 was so bad.

>>77392211
I'm pretty sure nobody in this thread is making up those, we're just informing you on what they are called by other people.

>>77391875
>Would a story of a Japan expy in a Russian-Japanese War/World War 1 scenario still be Steampunk?
It can be, if the ascetics fit, the same way the Scramble for Africa can be steampunk. Late WWI is more dieselpunk than steampunk, though.

>>77391281
>>77391875
Fantasy elements put it more in the realm of gaslamp fantasy. But TLoEG is just as much sci-fi as fantasy, so it counts.

It doesn't have to literally rely on steam to be steampunk. If it's Victorian or Edwardian-era retrofuturism, that checks enough boxes to qualify. That's why you hear bullshit science words like "aether" and "phlogiston" getting thrown around.

>>77391824
>>77392164
Could Steampunk be good for anything?
Maybe if we took it to the logical conclusion.
It's based in the Industrial Age then taken to extremes, so then we take the issues of the Industrial age and do the same.

>>77391762
Honestly you can't really escape that what steampunk turned into in shitty internet culture has completely preemptively ruined any future works that may choose to use it, or anything similar, as a setting.

So yeah, i have a problem with grasping to find the nearest non-ruined fictional setting and give it the ol' steampunk treatment.

They ruined blimps! BLIMPS!

>>77392260
>ascetics
Aesthethics. Stupid autocorrect, etc.

>>77392276
There is plenty of fiction that features the industrial age and its social issues. It's usually not as pseudo-science fiction as steampunk though.

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>>77392284
>They ruined Blimps
But the story I'm writing has the main characters home as a Blimp!

Also is Diesel Dieselpunk?

I'm a huge fan of Post-Apocalypse Punk, "Fury Road," had to be one of the best movies of the year.

>>77392284
>Honestly you can't really escape that what steampunk turned into in shitty internet culture has completely preemptively ruined any future works that may choose to use it, or anything similar, as a setting.
I mean, probably to you.
Not everybody has to overreact like fucking comicbook guy.

>They ruined blimps! BLIMPS!
How? Blimps are still awesome. Are you retarded?

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>>77392284
>these people like thing
>thing RUINED FOREVER!!!!!!
>HA BLOO HOO HOO HOO
Holy shit, just kill yourself already, you pathetic sack of garbage.

>>77392412
you have no idea and never will

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>>77387443
>The perfect answer
>Ignored

>>77392404
Look at what thread you are in. Look at OP's image. Everyone around you is STARTING from the understanding that steampunk is fucking meme garbage and has been for years. If you don't get that then you're not going to no matter how anyone tries to explain it.

>>77391191
Tribal-punk maybe? I dunno.

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>>77392454
>tfw my opinions will never be determined by other people
>mfw I possess the ability to think for myself
Feels damn good, nigga.

>>77392527
Well no, that was the point I was making.
You claiming it's irredeemably terrible because midgets like to wear stupid clockwork hats really doesn't matter to whether the "genre" can actually have good stories. I really don't care much if I don't agree with you or what you perceive to be the zeitgeist.

Besides it's not like you've actually even tried to explain it.

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I just want more stitchpunk.

9 and Little Big Planet are the only things I can think of that really did that style, and I love both of them.

>>77391281
You're slightly off, as a WW2 story with alien tech or a wizard is firmly in the Weird War genre. It might be dieselpunk, but not necessarily. Harry Turtledove's Worldwar series is about aliens in WW2, but is not a dieselpunk story.

I do like the term: AfroFuturism, the presence of black people in science fiction is rather understated.

>>77392648
>Friend was so hyped for this movie
>We go to see it
>He sleeps through most of it

Also what's the difference between guard and defend and protect?

>>77392552
That's a pretty fedora thing to say. But if you're saying "I don't give a shit about obnoxious fandoms because I just enjoy things for what they are," then yeah, I agree.

Speaking of. I think what people fail to realise is that a lot of the "glue cogs on shit" steampunk set are just having a laugh with it. It's all very tongue-in-cheek. They're making silly art and wearing it, and they know it's silly.

>>77392648
Yeah, that really isn't big enough to warrant its own subgenre. I get calling it that jokingly, or as a marketing ploy, but not as a thing where you subvert the entrenched values of ragdolls or whatever.

>>77392695
Protect is like, he leads them, guides them. Makes sure they have enough food, keeps them safe, that sort of thing.

Defend or Protect is a much blurrier line though. From what I remember though, 7 was much more offensive, going out and actually attacking the monsters, and 8 was much more specifically guarding the camp type thing.

>>77392743
I dunno, it's just a cool aesthetic. Everything tiny, using shit like thimbles or needles as weapons or armor, materials having different properties that small, that sort of thing. It just looks cool.

I'm also a sucker for like, mouse fantasy and that sort of thing.

>>77392743
>That's a pretty fedora thing to say.
.... Self determination is "fedora" now? I can't keep up with 4chan terminology anymore. None of these damn words mean anything.

>But if you're saying "I don't give a shit about obnoxious fandoms because I just enjoy things for what they are," then yeah, I agree.
That's exactly what I'm saying, you stupid sack of shit. What kind of kill-yourself-depressing idiot lets others rule over their opinions?

>>77388093
yes

>>77392276
Taking the issues of the Industrial Age to extremes, or even just a baseline examination of the issues of the Industrial Age gets you cyberpunk. I mean, that's the humorous part about cyberpunk, it doesn't actually have a vision of the future just a picture of the past with different tech.

Prohibition dieselpunk is best dieselpunk.

>>77392781
Well, yeah, that's the "making art" part of it. They're enjoying it unironically, making pretty things and all that, but they still accept that it's all very silly. Most of the "steampunk fandom" I've seen has at least some element of gentle self-mocking, in the same way that a lot of honest goths adore guys like Voltaire (the musician, not the writer).

>>77392850
>.... Self determination is "fedora" now? I can't keep up with 4chan terminology anymore. None of these damn words mean anything.
No, it's more the very smug "enlightened by my own intelligence" way of talking down. You can agree with someone's views and still think they're being a pompous asshat about it.

>>77392493
Goddamm, that cover is fucking hilarious.

>>77392915
>you will never hang from the side of a gyrocoptor shooting a tommygun at voodoo powered bootleggers

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Give me more neonpunk.

>>77393077
>you will never use the remains of a busted mech from The Great War converted into a gun turret to defend your speakeasy from siege by a rival mob family in the middle of a gang war that has thrown the city into chaos

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>>77388088
TaleSpin is the first and best example that comes to mind, yeah. You have floating air pirate fortresses and cloud-surfing and aerial dogfights, and it's set in the interwar period.

>>77393291
>you will never wake up drenched in cold sweat from the nightmares about the monstrosities stitched together out of the remains that littered No Man's Land

>>77392223
goobergatorchanpunk

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>>77393238
>It will never be 1989 again

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>>77393238

>>77393866
Wouldn't that just be Jet Set Radio with a huge homoerotic subtext?

>>77387400
The fuck does "punk" mean, anyway?

>no steam.
>but it has gears!
Cosplaying hipsters ruined steampunk. It's neither punk nor steam nowadays.
Why do they even insist on calling their clockwork prep steam punk?

>>77394087
Because it annoys you specifically.

>>77394215
I FUCKING KNEW IT

>>77392648
9 is just clockpunk

>>77387400

There is a *punk for everything in the world and everyone of them is completely niched and financially unsustainable.

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Yep, "stonepunk" is a thing.
Yep, Flintstones is claimed to be it.

>>77392692
> AfroFuturism
Only worthwhile one itt outside of Cyperpunk, and the one's a I like,adding Punk at the end is really creative for the most part, at least in my opinion. Spy-Punk, is that a thing?

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>>77391980
I want to see a pinterestpunk world where everyone dresses like a basic white girl

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>>77393238
thats vaporwave

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>>77391998
>counterculture of Thatcher era England punk
>punkpunk

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>>77392648
you mean, like, folkart?

>>77395417
>it doesn't have punk at the end
I don't know, it doesn't sound legitimate. It should be vaporwavepunk.

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Is there Banepunk?

>>77387400

See, my problem with steam punk is that a lot of the stuf you get has no reason to be on there.

I can understand why it might look cool to have a bunch of gears powering a thing, but if said thing didn't need that kind of thing to begin with, then into the trash it goes.

BioShock Infinite's mechanical Patriots were a good example of where a bunch of gears look cool and serve a function and even though it bombed, the Golden Compass was a good example of how to steampunk without being too obvious or obnoxious, though admittedly there were some electricity and futuristic elements present as well.

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>meme-punk

>>77390670
that looks like instagram
except it needs more weed and girls with arm colored pit hair

i don't get why this is so popular but maybe i just got old

>>77395559
I dunno. Seems like it'd be a big subgenre to tackle

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>>77391700
I don't think that's a very appropriate comparison. Cyberpunk is an entire subgenre, a pretty diverse one at that, whereas steampunk is more or less completely style/gimmick based.

>>77392365
Diesel is just fantasy

>>77392056
that's how girls are actually dressing now, i think it's actually trendy in L.A. and they add filters to their pictures so they look older and i get confused as to if they're actually old pictures. but then i see starbucks and call phones and shit like them wearing weed socks and i get they're being ironic in the hipster sense.

>>77387998
Dieselpunk is retrofuturism.

>>77389596
>Blade Runner, the first Cyberpunk visual work
Blade Runner wasn't cyberpunk. It just codified the aesthetic that would later become synonymous with cyberpunk.

>>77390400
Piratepunk would be fucking awesome.

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Anyone for Gasolinepunk ?

Witness this...

>>77391167
>>77391001
>>77391568
Get a load of this autismpunks

>>77396064

Guzzoline, pls.

>>77394060
Punk means rebel. All these subgenres are not so visually bound as theme bound - personality versus society. Each time period has its challenges and threats versus a generally conservative protagonist:
- steampunk / industrialisation
- dieselpunk / corporations
- cyberpunk / globalization
- biopunk / transhumanism

>>77390921
Your mind doesn't work very well.

>>77388638

Really adored that comic. Read it over and over while working at a library in high school...

>>77393238
Google vaporwave and 80s revivalism.

And fuck no. What we need is less of this shit. People completely forgot what the fuck they were trying to accomplish with it at around 2012.

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This is actually a good example of steampunk in mainstream media

>>77396252
I would argue that pretty much the only one of the bunch that really capitalizes on the "punk" part of the term is Cyberpunk. Blade Runner and all that. Too often, the other *punks are just for visual flair rather than strong thematic storytelling.

Still, I would very much like to be proven wrong.

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(Forgot the cover pic)

I'll shamelessly plug my little webcomic. I say it's retro-futuristic 'cause I'm not big on -punk terminology, but it's a setting similar to Brazil's so I guess it counts?

I've had a few hiccups here and there 'cause I've just started, but it's going to update 3 times a week. Any feedback is welcome.

First page
http://skylight-comic.tumblr.com/post/130340552064/welcome-everyone-i-hope-you-enjoy-skylight

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I've never played the games ( but do have a vague sense on what happens) but does the new game fit at all with steampunk??


"STEAMPUNK IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN GOTHS DISCOVER BROWN" - Somebody

>>77389596
>Nobody gives a fuck about the 70's. Star Wars maybe, whatever punk it is.


I like to think of it as "ChunkPunk" about an era where things didn't make the switch from analog to digital.

>>77395417
>Blurry jpg on pixel art.
Erry time.

>>77395409

>>open fridge carefully

At least he's doing something about his weight

>>77396691
How are goth and steampunk even remotely related?

>>77396515
I was talking about defining works, not genre kitsch. What makes a piece of fiction an art? Not style over substance that's for sure. Exploring themes of human, society and technology interactions in stylized backgrounds makes genre not an excessive amount of accessories on characters.

>>77397127
Both are poser schlock

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>>77393238
It's dead

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>>77391762
>Cyber Fiction
But the punk in Cyberpunk actually has meaning. It means every character is living in the gutters and has silly neon hair and stands up to the man and probably won't survive until they're 40.
Well either that or they ARE the man and are pushing silly, hopeless guttertrash around.
Anyway, the punk guttertrash is usually part of the setting.

>>77397236
That doesn't really answer my question, though.

*poseur

>>77387680
Seriously though does anyone know where I could lay my hands on issues of Hex, that shit looks badass.

Is the setting punk? If yes, then yes it's punk.
Is X the reason for why the setting is punk? If yes, then it's X-punk.

>>77398129
Thanks, i am not an english speaker.
Steampunk is "dark" in a sense that all machinery and science are considered dark, especially in retro settings. It is also smarter and less common then gothic in teen subcultures. So a poseusaur can be cool, unique and totally not sheeple simultaneously satisfying the need of superiority by being smarter and more mature then goth self with all those gears and nerdy stuff. Old corsets, chains, glasses, victorian dresses are easily convertible - just gear it up. I hope this answer your question.

>>77398489
There were also the neo-Victorian styles that formed a part of the 90s/00s Goth scene.

>>77397688
Everyone in cyberpunk being some strung-out gutter rat is the same thing as everyone in steampunk being a brass-plated fop.

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>>77398665

>>77398791
I'm not sold on the transparent shoulders or tight cuffs, but that's a damn fine outfit.

>>77398665
>Everyone in cyberpunk being some strung-out gutter rat is the same thing as everyone in steampunk being a brass-plated fop.

Not that anon, but it really isn't. Obviously cyberpunk has it share of one dimensional crap, but punk is a real-world thing, y'know? It's actually a meaningful appellation. Gibson used punk characters as a statement, not a stylistic choice. I can't think of any steampunk works where the foppish aristocrats were representative of real-world plutocrats, it's always a fantasy modelled after the period literature about gentleman adventurers. Cyberpunk is science fiction.

>>77396252
>- dieselpunk / corporations
Nah, cyberpunk is much more focused on coorperations. Dieselpunk's pretty diverse. Gangsters, corrupt government, and war are all pretty common though.

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>>77399045
>Gibson used punk characters as a statement, not a stylistic choice.
You know Gibson wrote one of the seminal steampunk novels, right?

>>77399138
Explain how that's relevant.

>>77399305
>Explain how that's relevant.

"The Difference Engine" is about the social changes that might have occured if Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace kicked off the Information Age in the 1800s - and the social mores that would have stayed the same.

It's basically a cyberpunk story in the age of steam. Steam. Punk. Hmm...

>>77399396
... and?

>>77399465
His choice of character backgrounds in the novel are a statement, not a stylistic choice.

Alternately, Gibson's use of punk characters in cyberpunk are a stylistic choice reflecting his belief that cyberpunk is "high tech, low life."

>>77399305
You said he did (thing), and then went on to say that (thing) never happened in steampunk. But since he actually wrote a steampunk novel -- a pretty important one, at that -- the whole idea doesn't really parse.

Either he failed to use characters as real-world stand-ins to make a statement, or your broad dismissal of steampunk as a shallow, style-over-substance fantasy is (at least partly) wrong.

>>77392743
>I think what people fail to realise is that a lot of the "glue cogs on shit" steampunk set are just having a laugh with it. It's all very tongue-in-cheek. They're making silly art and wearing it, and they know it's silly.
No, no they dont

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ed edd n eddy is junkpunk

>>77399695
A lot of them do. Sure, you'll find plenty that take it seriously, but you'll find those types in any group.

>>77399138
One of the three steampunk pieces of media that I actually enjoy.

The other two being Steamboy and Arcanum

>>77399641
Neuromancer et al are science fiction novels, to at least some extent social commentary, and telling the story from the perspective of the disenfranchised anti-establishment washouts is absolutely part and parcel of that social commentary. I haven't read Gibson's alternate history stuff, so I can't comment on it really.

>>77399677
Your logic a shit, I said he did a certain thing in his cyberpunk works. That has no bearing on his steampunk and what he did or didn't do in it. To be fair I won't begrudge the subgenre a few good works, I just haven't experienced any and stand by my general assessment. The "steampunk" moniker refers to a cheap style, not to any kind of ideology.

>>77399741
childhoodpunk

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>>77399880
Have you seen Jasper Morello? It's the first /co/ suggestion that comes to mind. It's on YouTube, but the quality there isn't great.

>>77400337
Look. You dismissed the subgenre, and in the same breath, praised one of its authors. It sounded like you were unaware, so I pointed it out.

If you like Gibson, it follows that you might enjoy something else he wrote. That's the takeaway here.

>>77400832
I was unaware, and I'll probably check out The Difference Engine at some point, thank you. It's just that even if I like it that won't change my opinion about the imitators.

>>77387465
I like the aesthetics of steampunk but every work of actual steampunk fiction I've ever experienced has been very meh.

Dieselpunk on the other hand, is underrated as fuck.

>>77396691
Not really. There are a few weapons ahead of their time (the rope launcher, Voltaic bombs, hallucinogenic darts) but the Assassins have always been using technology the rest of the world hasn't figured out yet. Generally speaking it's just Victorian-era resources being used to hunt alien artifacts.

>>77401027
And yet no one in this thread seems to be actually talking about it.

>>77395417
rec me some vaporwave

>>77391191

That's Hextech, senpai.

>>77401194
Any thread about dieselpunk will rapidly switch to people bashing steampunk along with long and repetitive arguments about the nature and use of the suffix "-punk."

batman the animated series?

>>77401344
Magitek.

>>77401362
The superhero genre isn't explicitly dieselpunk but they have the same roots. Golden Age stuff, particularly modern pastiches, are pretty much dieselpunk.

>>77389820
I say clock-punk is more Renaissance-era clockwork tech. The Victorian era was equal parts clockwork and steam power.

>>77401362
neo-noir?

>>77388211
dude, steam boy was cool as shit. Steampunk is honestly one of the coolest things to have a shit-tier fanbase since Steven Universe.

>>77392695
>Also what's the difference between guard and defend and protect?
Guard and defend are more offensive, protect is purely defensive. Guard also seems more stationary and less moral compared to defending.

>>77401351
Dieselpunk is my favorite of the retrofuturistic subgenres followed by atompunk.

I think it's because of TaleSpin and a genuine love of kitsch

can we just get some examples of different punk/postmodern/old-technology-doing-magic-shit genres in comics going? I'll start with what I know to be good, which is mainly manga as I've read more /a/ than /co/

>Biopunk
Dorohedoro (manga)
Elephantmen


>Cyberpunk
Dredd (it has cyberpunk elements but takes influence form many sci-fi subgenres)
Blame! (Manga)
Biomega (Manga)
Appleseed (Manga)
Ghost in the Shell (Manga)

>Dieselpunk
Atomic Robo
Hellboy (Depends on the story arc, most of the ancient technology and spooky races use heavy dieselpunk themes)
Sandman Mystery Theatre (Mix of dieselpunk and noir)

>Steampunk
>implying good steampunk exists in /co/mics
Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is a 3-4 issue origin story arc from a French comic called Freaks' Squeele

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>>77402513
>somebody else but me reads freaks' squeele
my esteemed nigra

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>>77402513
Steamboy was one of the better examples of anything steampunk.

>>77400565
nostalgiapunk

>>77400832
Hrmm no I have not, thanks Anon

>>77390827
Biopunk is god tier, it's a damn shame it's so underrated.

>that stupid ignorant abuse of 'punk'
Fuck everyone and everything that uses 'punk' for naming genres that don't have anything punk about them.

>>77389596
Starpunk?

>>77388129
Samus is objectively best vidya girl an anyone who disagrees is literally a massive faggot Tbh

>>77401786
>Defend is offensive
lol

>>77402513
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, can.

>>77402513
>>Steampunk
>>implying good steampunk exists in /co/mics
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. If Hellboy is dieselpunk, League counts for steampunk.

>>77391167
Yes.

Just look at TvTropes.

>>77394015
8ch's Christianity board is pretty popular

>>77399741
*Edpunk

>>77391771
>memepunk

>>77395808
You need to merge with memepunk

>>77391917
The idea has already been thrown around before.

I think it could actually be interesting. I imagine a shitty rundown city where everyone runs around spouting [s4s] style memes and the concept of sincerity is almost dead.

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>>77399741
Don't forget that KND perfected the art of junk vehicles and equipment.

A E S T H I C S

>>77389596
>The first "punk" story was a sci fi short story from 1980 titled "Cyberpunk" which was the inspiration for Blade Runner, the first Cyberpunk visual work.

LITERALLY READ A BOOK NIGGA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep%3F

>>77392530
Would Bionicle be an example of tribal-punk?

>>77401265
Eccojams Vol. 1
Laserdisc Visions

>>77392648
underrated as fuck movie

>>77395903

google "normcore", pal

>>77392648
voodoo vince

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Is there such a thing as three-kingdomspunk?

>>77388128
Because I'm Ryan Gosling?

>>77392284
You mean Zeppelins. Blimps have no internal body, but are not basic hot air balloon.

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>>77406286
It depends on the year but yeah. It's all anachronistic sci-fi/fantasy, but the different years went into very different sub-genres beyond that. 01-03 and 06 are all very tribal punk. 09 had a real post Apocalypse, desert-punk thing going on, 05 had a more urban apocalypse feel, almost zombie apocalypse atmosphere, but with spiders. 04 was almost cyberpunk, but not quite. It had like, a very Orwellian false-utopia vibe to it. I don't know if there's really a punk genre that describes that or anything. Either way it's a cool setting and I'd like to see more in it.

Then 07 had it's whole deep ocean, lost colony thing going on, and 08 was just weird, I can't think of any genre that really describes its setting. Just general 'end-game' type stuff.

The tribal-punk stuff was definitely where it was at it's best. 02, 03, and 06 were easily the best years. 04, 07, were cool too though. 09 had potential, but got cut way too short and just led into 10 which was crap. 01's overrated honestly.

>>77387400
The Big O

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>>77407180
kinda

>>77390827
Got any good biopunk recommendations? Google isn't being terribly helpful.

>>77408040
Bio Boosted Armor Guyver
FF7
Bioshock is this combined with Art Deco

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>>77407658
>01's overrated honestly

You take that back, how could you hate that CGI?

>>77408056
would [prototye] count?

>>77408159
Definitely, specially after the shit Blackwatch starts to do in the second one.

>>77404452
That's a pretty disturbing thought, actually. Visiting s4s always leaves me vaguely disoriented and uncomfortable. I don't like to think what it would be like to live in a world where... whatever s4s has is the norm.
I'd still read a sorry about it

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So from what i've gathered of this thread, we can just stick -punk to the end of literally anything now?

What would a comic that takes place in a Crabpunk setting look like?

>>77408091
I love 01, don't get me wrong, but 02 and 03 were much better. Several later years, like 04 and 06 were honestly much better.

Honestly, if i was pressed, I would say 06 was the best year. It had great atmosphere, a ton of great characters, had a lot of the best books in the series. It introduced a lot of elements of the matoran universe as a whole and delved deeper into the lore, while still having a lot of really nice mystery and intrigue about the place.

>>77408217
-punk refers to a futuristic setting, based on a specific era of style and technology.

Cyberpunk is the original, set in a very sci-fi, cyber-everything futuristic setting.

Steampunk is a futuristic setting with technology based on the aesthetics and styles of steam-era technology.

Dieselpunk is based on diesel-era technology.

Atompunk is based on Atomic-era technology and style.

So on and so forth.

>>77408371
So Crabpunk would be based on the paleozoic-era technology and style?

>>77408433
Nah everything's made out of crabs

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>>77388128
>Why would you actively try to dress like Ryan Gosling in The Notebook?

>>77388333
>fake Tomorrowland and Meet The Robbinsons
Good taste

>>77391568
I know it's late but I agree with you.

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>>77391762
>For example, Twilight is just Romance written as a genre rather than story. Dean Koontz writes Horror and Thriller, not stories that are Horror or Thriller fiction. You could call it Romancepunk or Thriller punk, it'd mean the exact same.
What? Really?

>>77408470
>>77408433
This is making me want a setting where all the technology is made of gross segmented chitin and everything's decorated like prehistoric sea creatures and those colorful gross tentacly corals

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>>77408721
How about dogpunk?

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>>77408721
>>77408217
Wait i just realized Orc Stain is literally Crabpunk

My smartass shitposting is actually a thing that exists. And it's fantastic

>>77408721
Literally Orc Stain

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>>77408433
>>77408721
Honestly I'd kinda dig seeing like, stonepunk or shit. A Caveman's idea of a futuristic society.

You could probably get away with having Paleozoic and Mesozoic shit in there really, though it wouldn't make any logical sense. Though it would make be much more likely to just have old Cenozoic shit from the ice age and whatnot. I actually dislike Cenozoic earth personally, Mesozoic, Paleozoic, and Pre-cambrian are where it's at.

>>77408721
Is Spongebob kinda crabpunk?

>>77408891
Spongebob is like... shippunk... beachpunk... something like that.

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Steampunk: Victorian 1880s Jules Verne and shit
Dieselpunk: Art Deco 1920s-1940s pulp magazines and shit

and bump

>>77408891
>>77409049
"punk" refers to the protagonists, what makes steampunk steampunk is usually because the protagonist is against the world. Spongebob is apart of his world so there is no punk aspect
i mean you wouldn't call Star Trek cyberpunk because its in a futuristic setting?

>>77409222
I was only following the joke trail but yeah I get what you mean.

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>>77408832
>Honestly I'd kinda dig seeing like, stonepunk or shit. A Caveman's idea of a futuristic society.
It's a living.

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> this thread

>>77409235
my friends and I had this conversation 5+ years ago.

tldr we wanted to make flintstones costumes

>>77387878
>>No pointless goggles on her hat that she never uses or has need for
>>No brass gears glued to her corset
>>No vacuum tubes attached to her gun
heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCuE5rHbPA
>>77388457
heh. You beat me. Though it bears posting again, about how superficial so many of these people are approaching it.

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Here's a very neat lecture someone posted on the history of sci-fi and cyberpunk:

part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kue_gd8DneU
part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv5zSY1ufHo

and a neat interview with William Gibson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVEUWfDHqsU

>>77395808
for you

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>>77391815
>>If its Victorian fiction with fantasy elements, its Steampunk.
>I feel like this is a too broad categorization.
>Shouldn't steampunk have something to do with steam?
I once got into an argument with a roommate who said he loved steampunk but never heard it was supposed to be Victorian. Then again, I couldn't get what he was trying to argue it was.

>>77407048
>google "normcore", pal
Why did I do that?

>>77396058
Never read One Piece?

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>>77407048
>>77409399

This... This is just how I dress. Maybe i should let some of my friends take me shopping like they keep offering.

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Does anyone remember this Chris Bachalo and Joe Kelly comic?

Fuck's sake. This is the guy that pretty much created Deadpool and steampunk is huge at cons. I'd think someone would try to make it popular. I remember it was where I first head of Steampunk.

>>77391815
some people argue that victorian magic should be gaslamp fantasy while victorian science is steampunk

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>>77390827

"Cybernetics was a dead science when cyberpunk SF was born, a cul-de-sac without living practitioners."

Meanwhile, 70% of the food we eat is made up genetically modified crops. A biopunk future is the most likely to actually come about.

>>77409442
...and if you have a story of Victorian magic fighting Victorian science then it's a steampunk gaslamp fantasy.

Just like how Star Was is NOT science fiction. It's a space opera, fantasy in space. A sci-fi fantasy hybrid mash up.

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HE'S PUNK! HE'S PUNK! YOU'RE PUNK! I'M PUNK! IS THERE ANY MORE PUNKS I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?!!

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>>77409459
I dunno. How long until some new generation decides to just skip Google Goggles or Apple Watches and just starts implanting tech? It's both cyber and bio.

Fuck. Some are already just for fun.
http://gizmodo.com/the-latest-trend-among-biohackers-is-implanting-led-lig-1741697381

I forget if it was Time or Newsweek, but five or so years ago William Gibson wrote an article about how he'd integrate computers more into human biology and the future looked to be smashing those fields together.

>>77403855
The way it's usually worded, you usually 'fight' the defend something or someone.

>>77402513
Maybe list some thins that aren't shitty manga, weeb.

>>77391312
lovelyss

>>77409427
That's not a style, that's just wearing clothes so you won't be naked. Why they fuck does this merit a name?

>>77409525
>people start implanting tech
>Anonymous DDoS your brain for the lulz
>gg no re

Yeah nah. I think I'll stick to being "analog" as far as interfacing with computers goes.

>>77409525
>Get a bunch of LED lights that don't even have a way to recharge without being surgically removed grafted under your skin
>Accidentally slam your hand against something with a light amount of force
>Glass shards, silicon, and tiny shards of metal jammed under your skin
Thanks, bio"hackers"

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>>77409779
>LED lights
>glass

>>77392859
>hurr durr scifi uses pretendy-futures to talk about the present
no shit

>>77409770
I DDoS my brain with booze anyway

Why is Vaporwave(punk) dead?
Was it popularity?

>>77396534
pls put more than three panels per page. Or at least put more than one 'page' in a post. Having to click through and load a new page every couple of in-universe seconds really takes me out of what's going on.

>>77409871
Vaporwave is a highly niche genre whose format causes it to trend towards uniformity in sound.

>>77409871
Looks more like a visual theme than a genre, and the aesthetic is basically cyberpunk.

dieselpunk it's like the pre-informatic era? Around '40s/'50s?

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>>77409871
it became a tumblr/mu/ meme before it had a chance to flourish

>>77409983
Dieselpunk is roughly pegged at WW1 through the late 50s.