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THE FLASH POST EPISODE THREAD #1: Zoom's A Big Guy Edition

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Next Episode: Gorilla Warfare (November 17, 2015)

>Grodd returns to Central City and kidnaps Caitlin. Barry and team race to find her before it’s too late. Meanwhile, Cisco plans his first date with the new barista at Jitters, Kendra Saunders (Ciara Renée) and Patty begins to suspect Barry is hiding something from her.

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Previous Thread: >>77375790
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rate episode

http://strawpoll.me/5976217
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2nd for good vibes
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>yfw when Zoom catches lightning bolt
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THE FLASH NEEDS A BIGGER BUDGET
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>>77377758
That's what she said.
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>>77377722
And remember Earth-1 Harrison's lawyer mentioning how something would happen after Barry viewed that video confession? That's gonna bite him in the ass.
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General reminder that Barry is motherfucking Kikaider now.
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>post yfw Zoom broke The flash
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The episode was full of Barry getting BTFO'd
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We need a comparison of webms

RF beatdown on Flash

vs

Zoom beatdown on Flash

Also holy shit it just dawned on me Barry is still fucking slow, he never actually surpassed RF
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>>77377758
We need to make rich friends, get them into comics, and make them have their parents give them money
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>>77377741
>Yfw Zoom combos Barry into a back-breaker
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>>77377758
I thought the Barry/Zoom fight actually looked really good for the typical CW budget. The lightning was a little cheesy but that was pretty much it, and it was still badass as fuck anyway.
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How come they did Zoom so well at being such a menacing big bad and yet Damian Dark sucks?
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>>77377796
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>first 80% of the episode
>typical drama stuff yadda yadda, patty being cute, sure, haha funny training montage and fake Dr. Light scene ...
>suddenly BARRY GETTING HIS ASS BEAT AND ZOOM MAKING THE ENTIRE CITY HIS BITCH for last 10 minutes

Amazing work with the contrast
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>>77377741
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>mfw Zoom isn't really Tony Todd.

Would anyone mind, really?
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>>77377798
That cgi actually looks fantastic.
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How can Zoom run up buildings? Can he do that in the comics?
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>>77377660
First for wanting pics of Lindas fat ass
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>>77377842
Going into the Light fakeout with 20 minutes left had a feeling that something big was going to happen.
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>>77377842
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>>77377825
Darhk is intimidating by presence. The mystical powers also helps too, but he's mostly just charming
Zoom is just fucking terrifying in both presence and ability
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>>77377823
I mean, more money, so we can have more good fights, this oнe shits all over the fights we got in season 1, even tho it was one sided.
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>>77377860
>everyone spends half a year theorizing who it is
>decent theories all around
>most of them are believable
>it's literally just Candyman with Speedforce
Jesus christ, how horrifying.
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Earth 2 Thawne vs Zoom: Battle of the Reverse Flashes. I NEED IT.
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Zoom is the New Bane.I thought it was a coincidence that his face resembles Banes's mask from the DKR but it was actually foreshadowing.
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>>77377807
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>>77377660
Does it impress anyone else how Zoom is the most terrifying live-action supervillain?

I'm more of a Marvel fan, but I'm really impressed how they made him into this unstoppable force + living nightmare wrapped up in blue lightning.

Only Darren Cross in Ant-Man made me uncomfortable in that scene in Cassie's bedroom.
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>>77377798
>Zoom just dragging Barry around town like a ragdoll to gloat about his victory
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>>77377798
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why do they only fight at night?
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Scary Zoom fan art when?
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Will Zoom posting replace Bane posting as a meme?
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>>77377938
>>77377973
stop that
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>>77377965
So you can see the Lightning better.
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>>77377967
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>>77377965
CGI is cheaper
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>>77377801
>Also holy shit it just dawned on me Barry is still fucking slow, he never actually surpassed RF
To be fair, Barry was up against someone who leeches off his speed. The more he expends, the stronger Eobard-Wells became.
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Reminder
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Barry did say he wouldn't run away anymore
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>>77377929
Turn out he is Henry Allen on Earth 2,actually killed his wife
His son Barry was taken in by his white cop friend
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>>77377973
Great bait meme material
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>>77377825
Zoom
>carries the biggest hero around town broken and beaten and parades him in front of everyone

Darhk
>walks into city hall "lol your city sucks and you should let it die that's totally reasonable right"

Zoom
>creepy melted costumed and blue lightning with super speed he uses without holding back and also can steal speedforce

Darhk
>generic guy in a suit who has some vague Magneto powers and life stealing maybe who fucking knows

You can see why the metas would be terrified to fail Zoom's task. On Arrow the show tries a few times to make Darhk intimidating but it doesn't work.

Nothing against Darhk's actor he's fun. Traitor though
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>>77377960
>Gloats to the news so the whole city, hell, the whole world can see
>Gloats to his family
>Gloats to his friends
Villain of the year
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>>77378001
Jesus Fucking Christ, this is something i would hate to see at night
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>>77378001
FUCKING SAVED. THANK YOU
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>>77378004
Didn't you get the memo? Zoom is Inazuman.
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>>77377929
Heh, that IS pretty scary.

Imagine that voice whispering in the dark as it tells you that it's gonna kill your girlfriend, your co-workers, your neighbors, and even the postman. Why? Because it can and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop or even anticipate Zoom from carrying it out.
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Did I miss anything in a flashback? i saw"ROBERT QUEEN IS THE HOOD" but i missed anything before then.
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is there any doubt now on who the best girl is?
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>>77377801
clearly they need to go to e2, find zoom's ancestor and kill that guy
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>>77378006
I don't think he literally meant that.
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>>77377973
ZOOM? Doesn't sound as good
>>77377960
Reminded me of Achilles dragging Hector's dead body around in the Iliad. Weird connection, I know, but I can't get that image out of my head now.
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Can I get the odds on Patti breaking up with Barry because everyone else knows he's the Flash but not her?
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>>77378063
Linda is best girl, fuck Patty
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>>77378057
Nope, that and Jessie Quick are pretty much the only important shit to take from the E2 Flashbacks so far.
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>>77378063
Wally is going to marry Earth-2 Linda.
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>>77378018
I wonder how Ra's and Darhk would react to Zoom? He's completely above and beyond their usual pay grade. Even with all that mystical shit they've encountered, he's dangerous as fuck.
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>>77378085
>Can I get the odds on Patti breaking up with Barry
100%
>because everyone else knows he's the Flash but not her?
Heh, about 60% for that reason
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>>77378063
Hawkgirl > Patty > Caitlin > Iris >>>>>> Linda
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>>77378085
Maybe she should be a detective and investigate that shit
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>>77378085
she literally just met him so it'd be weird for her to get super mad about it.

iris had more reason to be mad when they're practically family and best friends
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>>77377798
Looking back that was a stupid thing to try against another speedster. Even a scrub Barry much slower than RF can dodge lightning in season 1 and he tries it on a literal speed demon
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>>77378063
No doubt
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>>77378085
>its the 'Iris finds out' plot all over again
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>>77378085
Naw. Barry lied about being blind on their date and Patty didn't once throw a shit fit.
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>>77378081
Nah, I can see that too.

It's gloating over your defeated enemy and letting the whole world know who owned him.
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>>77378087

She's just CopFelicity. She's better than Felicity herself but Linda's was great during season 1, and now she's part of the team. She's gonna meet Wally soon. A relationship I care about is going to get attention...
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>>77378120
Darhk would try to reason/bargain with Zoom and totally fail

Ra's would try to make him become his heir
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>>77378063
She was always best girl
post more linda booty
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>>77378023
>whole world
I wonder how many vigilantes thought "Glad that aint me"
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>>77378033
>Candyman voice
>Pitch black eyes
>Melted suit
>Unstable blue lightning speed-force
>Demonic everything
Zoom is the result of what happens when nightmares become reality
Hell, Zoom could be anything. He's the monster in your closet, the monster under the bed, the weird scraping coming from the attic, the creeking in the bacement
Remember that traumatic experience as a child and yousaw something really fucking scary? Or that time you felt like you were being watched? Or when you watched that creepy movie as a kid and coudn
't sleep because you swore there was something in the room with you?
Zoom. Zoom is everything. Zoom is everywhere. The raisin E2 heroes and villains fear him is because he's everyone's nightmare. That one scary nightmare you had which woke you up and you never forgot it? That was Zoom
Zoom is fear. Zoom is all. Zoom is forever
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>tfw DCEU's Reverse Flash is going to be shit tier compared to either CW Wells or Zoom
>tfw DC will probably do something retarded like cancelling CW The Flash because they think their audience consists of a bunch of mouth breathers who won't understand why there are two Flashs
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Calling it, season 3 villain is Mirror Master
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>>77378167
>and now she's part of the team

Bro she left town

>just CopFelicity
How fucking dare you
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>>77378202
yes please do
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>>77378150
Remember Blackout? Barry could dodge his lightning so he should've thought twice about using a tactic like that against a speedster.
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>>77378001

HOLY SHIT

I still remember when /co/ was pissing their pants over RF
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>>77378120
Compared to Zoom those guys are Bush league.
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>>77377785
Yeah, Star Labs would be transferred to him
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>>77378213
That's one reason I'm loving Zoom right now. Sure, he has the same mystery about who he is and what his motivations are like every other character in this show but he comes off like a horror movie villain. He's just fucking ruthless and scary, I love it.
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I would be totally fine if film Flash faces a speed force demon like Zoom
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>>77378236
All I got
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>>77378220

I still contest that this is why they suddenly started revoking characters.

They were announced as separate so the TV show and the movies could use the same characters with no fear and then mouthbreathers complained that it would be confusing and that Marvel's shows being part of the movie universe was better and low and behold we lose Deadshot and the squad...
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>>77378150
Barry had Wells telling him that he could wreck Zoom's shit and hyping him up as so much better than Jay, he probably expected an easier fight.
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>>77378254
>leaving your lab to your nemesis
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>>77378085

Nigga she already knows.

She's been dropping hints since the first time her character showed up. Not only that, but it was very obvious this episode that she knows with pestering Joe about telling her everything, Barry having to "go do stuff" in the same way Joe went to deal with Light, etc etc.
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>>77378225
They said the Rogues are gonna be the big villains for Season 3. I hope the rest like Abra Kadabra and especially The Top join. The Top can actually move at speeds that even Barry was wary of tangling with.
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>>77378231

She'll be back soon enough.

And what's wrong? Can't handle the truth?
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>>77378250
>>77378194

I feel everyone is seriously underestimating Darhk

Zoom might have the speedforce but we don't know what Darhk's magic is fully capable of. I'm sure he'd have a trick up his sleeve to counter Zoom's speed
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Post your face if Zoom would have used barry's body to stop the bullets instead of catching them
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Why don't they just ask Gideon (RF's robot computer) on what to do, and how to beat zoom and walk again or something.
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>>77378311
>the truth
>she acts nothing like Felicity at all

Stop baitin m8
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>>77378220
>they go with daniel west
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>>77377801
>he never actually surpassed RF
Shit, you're right, it took Ollie and Ronnie being there to help him take him down and if it wasn't for Eddie commiting suicide everyone else would have gotten killed by Eobard.
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>>77378269
honestly im kind of hoping zoom isn't a doppleganger now. he's just a regular guy who went insane from being turned into a meta-human and became an absolute monster as a result.

i'm sure he is a doppleganger, but it would be cool to play on expectations and not go that route. show it could happen to even the most ordinary person.
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>>77378316
This is true. The fact that Constantine is in CWDC indicates that we're gonna some truly horrific magic in the upcoming season.
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RF or Zoom, whos your favorite evil speedster?
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>>77378247
>RF's suit is starting to turn black and burned due to speedforce use
>Zoom's suit just melted on him due to heavy speedforce use
Y'know, the speedforce is really unsafe
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>>77378342
gideon is assumed destroyed because she was probably attached to eobard's suit again when he was leaving.
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>>77378316
Well sure they can still make Darhk into something cool but so far he pales in comparison to what one episode of Flash showed us of Zoom
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I want to jump on Tom Cavanagh's bones. That is all.
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MY NAME
IS HARRISON WELLS
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>>77378389
Reverse Flash
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>>77378220
desu, by the time the movie comes out Wally will probably be made the new flash, they wouldn't cancel the show, especially if it keeps up the ratings
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>>77378354
I agree, not everything has to be some. Shamalamadingdong twist.
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>>77378305
They'll probably call him Turbine
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Zoom is just downright terrifying
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>>77378220
But there are a bunch of mouth breathers who already think people are gonna get confused by Gustin and Miller being the same character. There are always gonna be those people.

Just shut up about it fucking enjoy the insanity you're getting right now.
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>>77378389
RF is still my favorite because Cavanagh and Letscher's brief performance really made me like a character that I never gave a shit about in the comics (aside from Return of Barry Allen)

They really nailed Zoom as a huge threat in his first outing though
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>>77378389
Reverse Flash just because he's an asshole
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>>77378343

She's Felicity as a cop and with no tech skills.

Quirky and awkward in the way she talks, love interest of the main character, cute blonde girl. Wasn't it even in her casting call?

You gotta wake up and smell the roses buddy. She's a felicity clone.
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>>77378354
I expect Zoom to be Eddie or an evil version of Barry.Although him being an unknown who went mad with power is a much better idea.
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>>77378431
>Joe shaking in fear/anger

Joe is best
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>>77377738
>http://strawpoll.me/5976217
Zoom/10

What a shame it's not an option.
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>>77378423
They've embraced the spirit of the comics so far. We have Gorilla Grodd and King Shark. Pied Piper and The Trickster. They're definitely gonna call him The Top and they're gonna make him dangerous as fuck.
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>>77378423
2 completely different people tho
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>Kidnapped his old girl
>Bitched him out in front of his new girl
>Bitched him out in front of his future girl

Zoom too good.
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>>77378455
>this low quality b8

C'mon man you can try harder. They don't act the same at all.
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>>77378392
Does Zoom ever take off his suit? What if he needs to take a piss?
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>>77378389
I prefer Reverse Flash.
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>>77378529
He pees so fast it goes through through his suit like when Barry ran through that van in S1
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>>77378389
RF definitely has the better IT WAS ME BARRY vibe, but Zoom is definitely the scariest and most threatening villain so far on the show. I don't really know who I like more, I'll have to wait until we know more about him.

>laugh at how silly Zoom looks in the preview images
>mfw THE CRACK
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>>77378389
Honestly Zoom. RF had some great moments like him brutally icing those guards but I more just enjoyed Cavanagh being a smug bastard as Wells. Plus the final fight with RF was kinda lame, nowhere near as good as the midseason one.

Zoom, however, has been so goddamn scary and brutal and Tony Todd's voice is pure sex. God I hope CW doesn't fuck this up.
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Holy fuck. Just finished the episode.

Holy fucking fuck. This was great.

>all the fun times of Linda learning to be Doctor Light
>all that hubris from Barry and the team, thinking they *seriously* had a chance against someone who bested the smartest Flash
>Zoom blowing Barry the absolute fuck out
>Barry becoming comics Zoom

Like, holy shit. 10/10 episode, to be quite honest.
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>>77378529
He vibrates it out as a fine mist
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>>77378479
I thought turbine was essentially new 52 version of top? I'm fine with the top name but I could also see them switching it up
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>>77378389
Zoom, the comics one
Always thought he was a fucking great villain
From the Tv show, RF
Zoom is terrifying, but he still has to make me stop loving Eobard Wells
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>>77378167
>She's just CopFelicity.
She's more like female Eddie with Barry on the side.

She's perfect.
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This show is living proof that TV is now the superior medium for live-action superheroes. You can't have this kind of storytelling in a movie that's 2-3 hours.

Flash and Daredevil are my favorite live-action comic shows. I don't care about films anymore.
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>>77378489
>Destroys Barry in front of his friends
>Parades him around the city
>Shows his victory off to the world via the press
>Shows his victory off to the cops, showing that they're not inferior
>Proceeds to piss on his friends again by going bat to STAR Labs
Zoom for Mayor
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>>77378616
>female Eddie

Literal perfection
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>>77378616
Don't engage those guys
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>>77378616
In that case I hope she kills herself too
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>>77378354

It's going to be Henry. The writing is clear as day;

>He exits the show in episode one/two so the audience "forgets" about him
>It would be the perfect parallel from season one; his Flash-dad turned out to be a psychopathic murderer and his Earth-2-Prison-Dad doppleganger turns out to be a psychopathic murder giving him even MORE pappy issues
>They already made the parallel with Robert Queen being The Arrow in Earth-2, so it stands to reason that Henry Allen of Earth-2 will be of significance.

Grant Gustin doesn't have the ability to play a menacing evil character like Zoom unmasked, but John Wesley Shipp sure as fuck could.
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>>77378477

When is Piper coming back? Is he coming back? I worry he won't there's so much happening this season...
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>>77378624
The movies can still be great and use 2 hours well. For every mess like Week of Ultron we get a Winter Soldier. More episodes can definitely be used well but sometimes that just means filler.
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ReverseBluePower are you here? Going to clock out soon I think.
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>>77378626
Zoom vs Oliver Queen for mayor of your city.
Who do you vote for??
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>>77378648
Probably next season when the Rogues are finally formalized.

I do wonder if Cold and Heatwave are part of them? They are gonna be in Legends of Tomorrow and stopping Vandal Savage.

I'd prefer if they were still crooks, but not vicious killers. That's what makes the Rogues so memorable as villains. They actually have an honor code.
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>>77378624
I still stand by my notion that this is the reason the Fantastic 4 movies have all failed, they're just more well suited to multiple stories across episodes.
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>>77378673
He said he had Uni work to do, clocked out last thread
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>>77378682
Zoom
Because he knows who's voting
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>>77378647
It's interesting how a Flash adaptation can be darker than anything in Batman and Superman. I mean, just look at what you've written. That's a greater mind-fuck than anything in comic book movies.
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>>77378691
They're well suited to actually doing something enjoyable and fun with the team instead of making 2 generic cheese-fests and 1 retarded grim dark shit that ignores everything about the FF that people like
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Alright guys I'm gone for this week, will deliver webms as per usual in next week's thread.

>>77378694
fuck I have uni work to do too
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Right now it's 5 in the morning here.
Those couple of hours are just full of hype here.
I'll go to sleep since I'm tired.
Wake-up tomorrow, Win-O-Thread. New comics.
I love those 2 days and I love ya Flash thread anons.
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Grodd is back my friends. All hail Grodd!
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>>77378431
I practically heard the HINJAKU HINJAKU.
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>>77378664
I enjoyed Winter Soldier and Ant-Man immensely. They're probably my 2 favorite MCU films, but the Flash and Daredevil are just head and shoulders above them. The fact that we get 10+ hours of material to see characters fleshed-out and conflicts to be developed is more of a treat than any big-budget blockbuster.
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>>77378753
He saw the camera recording him and didn't like it
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>>77378747
Me too
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>>77378647

But gosh. He played a menacing villain before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrlVkfwZ1Yk

Nothing more menacing than a sassy gay
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>>77378771
Ehhh. I like the Flash but there's filler, some silly drama moments, etc. You kind of forgot them over the course of a whole season but they're there. Whereas a 2 hour movie, if done right, is no filler and well-paced from start to finish.
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>>77378601
From what I remeber Turbine is a tuskegee airman that got sucked into the speedfroce and has been living in it for 50/60 years and was eventually saved by Barry, has problems adjusting to the time and has speedforce powers mostly related to speeding him shen he spins
Real different from Top
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>>77378608
Zoom is good like Comic Eobard is good, he makes you have a good time because he's an evil SOB and he just makes beating on the hero very enjoyable.

Wellsobard is a more sympathetic character and although he was an unhinged killer with no problems about killing others if it meant he went back home, he still showed that he cared for people and wasn't out to be a jackass.

Also Cavanagh is just great, I love him.
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>>77378795
I don't mind filler and even the CW-level drama. It's refreshing to see a superhero actually chill out once in a while and not always be concerned about the upcoming battle.

I'm still gonna watch the Doctor Strange, Aquaman, and Inhumans movies, but not in theaters. I'm just gonna wait until they're on cable.
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>>77378838
Whatever floats your boat. I see the benefit in both mediums. The TV shows are fun but it's awesome to sit down and watch a 2 hour spectacle when it's done right like Ant-Man and Winter Soldier. It's like a big event compared to the regular series of a show.
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>>77378799
>>77378601

There are now two New 52 Tops. There's Turbine, and that kid Roscoe Dillon who's been hanging out with Professor Zoom.
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>>77378880

I really need to catch up on new52 Flash... I just have to hope someone posts it in the win-o-thread I don't want to support a bad run...
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>>77378867
>It's like a big event compared to the regular series of a show.
You hit it on the nail.

I prefer the monthly issue format compared to the big event. It's a reaction to all the shit that Marvel's churned out in the past decade.

Like I said, I'm still gonna watch comic movies, but they're not top priority. I want to sit back and enjoy things instead of the quick hit of a summer blockbuster.
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>>77377660
>Mfw Zoom dragged Barry around town
Seriously Zoom is a fantastic villain, hope they can keep this quality up.
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>>77378647
The Robert Queen thing is very obviously a Batman parallel, with Thomas Wayne of Earth-2 being Batman in the comics.
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>>77378771
>>77378664
>>77378624
I think it might depend on the character. Captain America feels more suited to a big screen, 2 hour adventure to me (admittedly, without a ton of knowledge of his comics). Superman probably does better in that format too (assuming a good movie, anyway) instead of a weekly series. But other characters? Absolutely better off with a weekly. It kills me that we're going to be stuck with another goddamn Spider-man movie reboot when he is absolutely the perfect TV superhero.
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>>77378960
It's agonizing that we'll never see Earth-2's storyline. That world looks fascinating as fuck. The retro look as well as their pantheon of villains and heroes.
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>>77378994
agreed.

there are very few characters who could work both as a big budget movie and as a long term show. Spider-Man and Batman are two of those characters for sure.
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>>77378922
Nu52 Flash is bad
Like, it was good, not amazing, good, but when Venditti picked it up, it went totally to shit
And the art, holy shit the art is so bad, so bad
They could've at least kept Capullo on, his art was so fluid, it really worked well with the Flash
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The truth about Zoom:
Actually Earth-2 Grodd. When that mask comes off expect some Dr. Zaius looking goon.
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>>77378205
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>>77378994
>Captain America feels more suited to a big screen, 2 hour adventure to me (admittedly, without a ton of knowledge of his comics).
I can see an argument for that. Though seeing Cap try and assimilate to 21st century USA would be great to see on a weekly basis. His frustrations and inability to relate to contemporary pop culture. Everybody he knows is dead or senile.

>Superman probably does better in that format too (assuming a good movie, anyway) instead of a weekly series.
Lois & Clark did a good job as a weekly series. Dean Cain did a great job in depicting the human side of Superman and invoking his virtues. Even the 80's Superboy was fun as fuck.
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>>77379002
I want to see what E2 Barry is up to
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>>77379038
Manapul, not Capullo anon.

though i would love capullo on flash, but he's on break from monthlies after batman 50
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>>77378220
people already confused about bale batman and ben afflecky
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I liked the rest of the fight but I flipped out at
>Never forget...I...AM THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE
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>>77379054
I wonder how Team Arrow reacts to Barry getting BTFO?!

Oliver will understand why Barry didn't make it to that unknown person's funeral since he's aware of how dangerous Zoom is.
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So how is Zoom so damn fast /co/? He's way faster than Jay even though they've had their powers for the same amount of time, so what gives? Were there other speedsters he fed off of?
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>>77379086
they're too busy saving ray
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>>77378389
Hello new lock screen
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>>77379064
In prison. Remember those random glimpses we saw at the end of Season 1? Earth-2 Barry is probably behind bars because his dad framed him for Earth-2 Nora's murder.
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>>77379057
>Though seeing Cap try and assimilate to 21st century USA would be great to see on a weekly basis
Nah, that would get real old real fast
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>>77379066
Yeah, got it wrong, always get their names messed up for some reason
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>>77378356
Hardly. Just because Constantine showed up doesn't mean Arrow's suddenly going to turn as dark as his show.
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>>77378220
I'm doubtful they'll cancel it; they didn't cancel Smallville when Superman Returns came up.

Just didn't let them use Batman because of the Nolan films or Wonder Woman because ?
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>>77379121
Ever seen Fox's Sleepy Hollow? It can be a blast to see if handled properly.
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>>77379140
Clark wasn't allowed to be Superman in Smallville. And they held to that to a ridiculous degree.
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>>77379140

They basically want the trinity to stand on their own and not be reduced to rating grab cameos or supplemental secondary characters in live action. It's reasonable but when fans want them to appear I think throwing a bone out there every now and then is fine.
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>>77378647
I am thinking about JWS or either Cosnett being Zoom, like you said the show made that abrupt exit for Henry and Eddie keeps getting brought back in conversations so the show isn't letting us forget about him (and that's usually a sign that the show is not done with a character).

That said Cosnett said he is still going to be involved with The Flash although he hasn't said in what capacity since he himself is still on the dark.

So far only Berlanti, Kriesberg whoever is on the writing team and Cavanagh know who Zoom is.
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>Linda finds out Barry was keeping the fact he was the Flash a secret from her
>Her response wasn't to immediately disown him and storm out
Holy shit, am I still watching the CW?
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>>77378335
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>All these theories about Henry Allen being Zoom
It's funny, Because JWS voiced Professor Zoom on Batman: The Brave and The Bold
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>>77379363
That's probably 2/3rds of the reason people are attached to that theory.
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>>77379094
>Were there other speedsters he fed off of?

I think that's implied, yes. Jay seems to know about it.
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>>77378431
Then he still ends up getting shot, 3rd times the charm!
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>>77379350
Fug. I don't like seeing Barry upset
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>>77379327
>made out with the flash
Made me smile
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>>77379419
>yfw zoom has fed off of e2 eobard and got his power to absorb speedforce from him
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it's some voice shit right?
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/50/Nstalk_death_08.mp3
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>>77379419
>maybe the fastest speedster of all
Actually looking back that does kinda sound like Jay knew other speedsters
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>>77379419
Maybe he was going from Earth to Earth killing Flashes and assimilating their speed.
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>>77377660
Okay so Grodd returns and Barry is disabled. That means Hawkgirl is going to face off against Grodd, right?
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>>77377660
Holy Shit, Just saw the episode and I was ready to right it off as filler and set-up for the next episode, even started playing on my phone.

THEN BOOM WE GOT MOTHER FUCKIN ZOOM

Who knew an episode could totally go from shit to GOAT in 5 min.

Also, I totally want Linda to get those gloves back, now that she defied expectations and survived the episode.
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>>77379327
>Iris finds out her dad lied to her her whole life and her mom's actually alive
>Her response wasn't to immediately disown him and storm out
>Iris finds out Barry has a date with Patty
>Actually encourages him to go
>Which leads to Barry having a LITERAL blind date
>Which somehow goes over really well

It's like CW's going out of their way to make me dread cringe drama and then go "nah just kidding!"
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>>77379644
They learned from their mistakes, an admirable trait in a company
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>>77379644
she found out more information about her that confirmed joe's need to not mention her
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>>77379539
>>77379539
That's my theory.
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Honestly I thought this episode was slow for the most part because of the whole Linda scheme, but it just jumped up to 9/10 when Zoom showed up.

Fastest big guy alive
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>>77379400
It's a much better theory than Zoom being E2 Barry
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Somebody please make a meme with Zoom saying: "You know what they say. Once you go black you'll need a wheel chair".
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>>77379706
For Barry
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>>77379770
>I can't feel my legs
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>tfw Flash and Arrow are both fucking amazing right now

I can wait for the crossover.
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>>77378529
BARRY I'M PISS
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>>77379807
Eh, Arrow still needs a real highpoint for me to get hyped about again. No, a glorified cameo does not mean Arrow is suddenly redeemed, guys.
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But I think my favorite part of this episode is that it played with our emotions so well.

We figured it would be a Season 1 Reverse-Flash type of episode, where Eobard or a meta chooses not to go all out. But Jay was right: you come at the king, you best not miss. And, of course, we see that the Flash team's nonchalance towards Zoom almost kills and literally cripples Barry.

Sure, they know he's big, bad, and dangerous, but Barry's successfully dealt with that before, right? Nope. Zoom is a completely different thing, who's not afraid to even ruin The Flash's rep while whooping him.

>>77379807
/co/ probably heavily disagrees with you, but I'm definitely in concurrence.

Although, it's *kinda* troubling that there are probably going to be a bunch of crossovers this season. But assuming all things go well, it might be GOAT.
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Anyone else think Zoom should be way faster? Like blink and he can kill you in 52 different ways. I mean sure, he looks menacing, and he did just fuck up Barry's shit, but I just don't feel the threat like Eobard had.
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>>77378431

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdoFkxJEojI
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>>77379862
As much as I am liking the new season it all just seems to be setting up Legends Of Tomorrow. We need a big battle which might happen given the description of next episode.
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Just finished watching the episode. I thought Zoom was going to kill Barry and they'd continue the show with Earth-2's Barry. I haven't read the comics so how does Barry get his powers back?
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I just realized. Remember they were like MAX VELOCITY and in the air and shit? Now remember the Great Brain Robbery when they turn off the gravity in the watch tower. Zoom was totes just playing around with Barry.
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>>77379984
I don't think that has ever happened in the comics. Barry never fought Zoom, only Professor Zoom. He did very briefly encounter Zolomon during Rogue War but they didn't really do much.
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>>77378431
I still don't get how cathing a bullet stops it?

>I am so fast I can put my hand in front of a speeding bullet.
>Shit it went through my hand.
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>>77379984
He still has his powers for some reason, so he's not going to get them back cause he never lost them. MEANWHILE FUCKING FARRUQ CAN TAKE AWAY BARRYS POWERS FOR GOOD
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>>77379905

I dunno about a bunch. Episode 8 is now the official crossover episode every year, and I'm sure we'll get another Felicity solo-crossover.

I think Flash'll tone it back this season though since it's more established this year so there's no need to hype up small cameos like they'll be huge deals.

I would kind of like to see something like a sidekick team up episode but Barry doesn't have one at the moment... Speedy/Wally team up episode would be great.
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>>77379984
>I thought Zoom was going to kill Barry and they'd continue the show with Earth-2's Barry

Retarded desu
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>>77378529
He just vibrates his dick and pisses so that it is super heated on the way out of his cock thus evaporating.
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If they can come up with all of these death rays, then why don't they just equip Barry with a bunch of them? Kind of like a powered armor version of the Flash.
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>>77380028
He's not putting his hand in front of the bullet, he's plucking it out of the air while it's frozen or slowed relative to him

Plus these guys are clearly tougher than normal given how they're fucking walling from the sky at terminal velocity and just bouncing back
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>>77380028
Imagine the bullet is going lets say 200 mph. Zoom or Barry speeds up their hand to vibrating 200 mph, now the bullet is going literally the same speed as his hand. So its like anything around you is going the same "speed" as you are. Thats why you're able to pick up a pillow or a TV remote. Thats whats happening but with bullets.

I don't know how fast bullets go.
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>POST YFW NAKED INVISIBLE E2 LINDA IS STILL OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.
SHE MIGHT EVEN BE BEHIND YOU WATCHING.
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>>77380120
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>>77380120
How can we find her? Do we have booty detecting meters?
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>>77380100
Okay google tells me the average bullet moves at 1,700 mph. So Barry is so full of shit being able to catch and dodge bullets all the time, but then get the life murdered out of his spine by zoom.
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>>77377741
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>Zoom didn't recognize Barry

So, its safe to say that Zoom isn't Barry's dad
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I didn't think they could top / make a villain scarier than RF. Nevermind.
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How many red flags were going off for you when Barry kept going to Patty and talking about how much he wanted to be with her? Seriously, she's like a cop version of Felicity.
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>>77380120
>ywn accidentially hold hands with a naked invisible E2 Linda
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>>77380185
Zoom is a speed demon, speed is force, the hand that hit his spine was going unimaginably fast.
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>>77380218
Unless Barry died when he was 10.
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>>77380218
Or possibly the Henry on that Earth did kill Barry's mom and maybe even Barry too?
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>>77380218
What? If he was Barry's dad he already knew he he was
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>>77378409
And Im smugest man alive
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>>77380227
>she's like a cop version of Felicity.

Is this the beginning of an epic new meme?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetmVJNf7pU
nest week bitches patty is SO CUTE I LOVE HER
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>>77378161
>>>77378085
>Naw. Barry lied about being blind on their date and Patty didn't once throw a shit fit.
Pretending not to be blind on a date

Keeping a secret like being THE FLASH

How is this comparable situations
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>>77380274

>Beginning

we've been saying it for weeks.
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Did anyone else notice how TVs on earth 2 are longscreen not widescreen
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>>77378225
>Calling it, season 3 villain is Mirror Master
Only if they get Laurel's dad again
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>>77380306
To me, you've been saying it for centuries.
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>>77380304
Linda took it okay. He didn't rape somebody, he is a fucking superhero. The correct response for finding out one of your best friends was secretly a superhero is "I can see why you would hide that, holy shit this is so cool".
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>>77380295
>B-B-B-B-BBBWWWWAAAAMMMMMM
Stop
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>>77380353

I can get Iris's point honestly. Every last person in her life was hiding this from her and only her. Eddie knew, Barry knew, her dad knew, she claims to have gotten to know Caitlyn and Cisco over the course of Barry's recovery even though we never see them really interact.

She was upset because her not knowing really did jackshit to protect her. I think the show took it a bit to far but an initial moment of anger was fine. The show certainly handled it badly but in theory it makes sense.
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>>77380274
>The protagonist has an absurdly strong attachment to her, to the point where she is now his main source of comfort
>Uber nerdy and smart
>Awkward
>Shy
>Extremely thirsty
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>>77380120
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>>77380487

Her dialogue is written as felicity but without the tech stuff. Watch her scenes with Joe in this episode and you can see how similarly written they are.

People just don't want to admit their new flavor of the month is the same as their old one. Well until they turn on her that is.
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>>77380487
Well meme'd my friend
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the ending made me laugh so much, i can't stop thinking of the thought of barry allen having to go around in a wheelchair from now on

like just imagine the scenes where they do the slo-mo shot of barry running through the city but he's in a fucking wheelchair lmfao
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>>77380349
Shit man, I wouldn't put it past them. They've already cast like half the cast from the 90s Flash show.
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>>77380551
when the episode ended the first post I wanted to make was "The Fastest Crippled alive" but I had trouble with my internet.
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>>77378647
>Grant Gustin doesn't have the ability to play a menacing evil character like Zoom unmasked, but John Wesley Shipp sure as fuck could.
I bet he technically could, but his baby face prevents it from completely working.
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>>77380349
Huh, neat
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>>77380120
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>>77380544
You guys really don't see it?

I'm fine with Patty's character in general, but the way Barry has fallen for her so fast really raises some issues. There's no real development in their relationship, it's just "Man I love you so much hahaha".
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>>77380653
I agree with this anon
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>>77380653
My name is Anon and I am the fastest memer alive
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>>77380700
checked
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>>77379436

Vibe shot him dummy, the bullet phased out and back in to existence.
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So he's just going to pop his spine back in and be fine again right?
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I've always loved flash never was able to read the comics growing up but can someone give me a rundown of something, I always thought that RF and profZoom were just interchangeable names?
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>>77380120
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>>77380815
Professor Zoom is Eobard Thawne specifically. Reverse Flash is just a title used by all the evil yellow Flashes.
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>>77380815
Basically yes. There have been several Reverse-Flashes (the term is generally just used for the main nemesis of the current Flash, who tends to be a mirror image speedster) but when people say Reverse-Flash in reference to a specific villain, they usually mean Eobard Thawne/Professor Zoom.
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>>77380865
>>77380882
Thank you both.
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>>77380185
Meh, most of these writers don't get mass and speed physics.

Like real humans tend to be a lot stronger than what appears in media or in reverse a lot more fragile, it basically comes down to what the author says and move on.

Lets not forget that bullets aren't just moving incredibly fast, with a ton of force pin pointed to a tiny area they are also really, really hot. Ask anyone stupid enough to grab a casing or better yet the barrel after firing.
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i want to marry patty
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>>77380965
Post videos of babies going through tunnels.
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>>77380965
You cheating bitch, what about Himawari, you going to leave that titty monster for Felicity clone number...4? no 5. crap I've lost track of dorky nerds.
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>>77379104
Are you sure?

It's vaguely homoerotic.
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Pants made of Go-Fast incoming.
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Is wally going to black? Is he going to be the main character in season 3?
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>>77381165
>Is he black?
Yes

>Will he be the main character for season 3?
Probably not
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How can my Zoom possible be this based?
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>>77381165
I'm betting Daniel West is going to be the Evil Speedster of season 3. Or 4, if they want to take a break from having evil speedsters be the main villain.
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>>77381165
Yes. And Wally is going to black Linda and Barry is going to get blacked by Iris. The entire next generation of speedsters will be mulatto. Bravo CW, so progressive.
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>yfw Zoom is defeated at the end of the season by the Flash family

>Barry
>Jay
>Jessie
>Wally
>Harrison Wells/RF
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>>77381235
It makes you hope he never gets unmasked, or that he really is somesort of demonic speedforce creature because no matter what once that mask comes off its gonna be disappointing.
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>>77381220
>>77381246
>>77381252
Wally being black annoys me more than Iris being black desu senpaitachi.
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we definitely wally west now aren't we
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>>77381310
Ssh, don't let CW hear you say that. They might kill off another character and replace them with a black man.
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>Watching Zoom parade Barry around
Amazing.
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>>77381310
Okay, "desu" means "It/Is" it's a sentence particle, the only reason it shows up at the end of sentences so much is because of the Yoda like sentence structure of the Japanese language.

Stop being shit at words
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So Gorilla Grodd is used for fillers right? what are the chances we'll see an evil Caitlin Snow is episode 8?
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So what other than a speedster can give Flash enough of a challenge to fuel a season? Grodd? That'd be cool
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>>77381369
>hearing his spine break
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So E1 Linda's gonna become the superhero Dr. Light, right?

And then her evil E2 twin rapes her, yeah?
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>>77381372
jesus baka senpai
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>>77381372
Ssh no one tell him.
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>>77381165
Ohh gawd
what if instead of cancelling it after season 3, Barry dies and Wally takes over teh show
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Are we seriously trying to act as if Jessie Quick isnt in contention for best girl with her flirty skirt
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What happened to the reaction guys images? Not been to one of these threads since the season 1 finale and they were my highlights, if no one is making them i could do it?
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>>77381302
>yfw they avoid this by having Light shoot him in the face, causing it to forever be melded to the mask Doctor Doom style.
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>>77381430
Season 2 has been pretty shit tbqh family.
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>>77381270
>Harrison Wells/RF
Not Harrison Wells/Johnny Quick
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>>77377798
DID THIS NIGGA DO A SONIC BOOM?!?!
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The violence at the end was really unnecessary, the Flash is a light-hearted and cheerful show, did we really need to see Barry bleeding and humiliated? They should keep that shit in the movies.

I'm glad at least Supergirl isn't straying from its tone. I hope it stays upbeat.
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>>77381397
>>77381412
I hate meme's I don't know
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>>77381383

I want Mirror Master to carry a season, personally.

Alternatively, they could bring over something from the magical shit that's happening on Arrow. Watching the STAR labs people have to counter magical enemies could be bretty cool.
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>>77381469
How does it feel to be totally wrong
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>>77381381
Who cares its pretty obvious by now that it's just going to be a bullshit doppleganger flavor of the month, who Barry will have to kill so he learn the lesson that the alternates are not the people he knows.
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>>77381430
You could do it. Like 3 other peole have said they would and the original doesnt anymore. Probably died
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>>77381430
Go for it. The guy who did it last season is probably just too lazy or doesn't post anymore.
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>>77379094
What if Wells was a speedster?
JOHNNY QUICK
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Q
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C
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>>77378006
haaaaaaaaaaaaah
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>>77381525
it's a board word filter. tee bee eich FAMily is filtered into desu senpai, and now it's a meme.
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>>77381383
Savitar with Lady Flash and speed cult if they combine it with Max Mercury speed force shenanigans.
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>>77378120
bruh...

This is like comparing daredevil villains to someone like Darseid. We're talking about owning worlds and other dimensions here. These guys just want money and "power".
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>>77381588
DESU
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>>77377660
I forgot how to 720 stream. Help?
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>>77381566
>>77381572
Okay, its like half 5 here in the UK and i have a one to one interview tomorrow with my tutors so once im done there ill get them going, keep a flash thread going
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>>77378063
she can't act for shit
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>>77381633
family
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>>77381596
>http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Lady_Flash_%28Earth-33%29
>Lady Flash is the keeper of the Speed Force. She was visited by the dimensional travelling Ray Palmer who was given his signature to prepare for a "Great Disaster".
>Dimensional travelling Ray Palmer
>Great disaster
It fits.
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>>77381596
Exploring the wonders of the speed force would be pretty fun, maybe we could get some League of Evil Speedsters? A bunch of guys that are way slower and weaker than Flash in terms of raw speed but attack in groups and have masterful communication/teamwork, which Rogue Air showed us can be pretty deadly
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>>77381656
SENPAI
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>>77381580
>Wells became a speedster in Earth-2 with the particle accelerator.
>He never figured out this happened, because throughout his life, he got used to always being a step ahead of everyone else.
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>>77381642
I'm the same. Anyone?
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>>77378489
confirmed zoom is eddy
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>>77381681
desu senpai

huh, kinda fun
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>>77381680
>League of Evil Speedsters
A Legion of Zoom, one might say.
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You know what really sold this episode? The sound effects.
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>>77377875
Seconded.
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>>77378626
I wonder if Oliver will see it on the news tomorrow.
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>>77381419
That's a dress, you mongoloid.
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>>77381680
That and Savitar pulls some classic Wally level bullshit like speed stealing and constucts.
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>>77379286
why cavanagh?
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>>77381731
"BREAKING NEWS: FLASH GOT BTFO BY FASTER EVIL FLASH"
Ollie: Well shit"
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>>77377798
Holy shit, did he fucking caught LIGHTING?

Fuck me, now we're getting into bullshit power level comicbook feats.... I LOVEEET!
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>>77381485
You mean Harry Quick
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>>77377660
How do you guys think hes gonna get his speed back?
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I feel like the show would be a lot better if it was 30 minutes long (not 30 minute time slot, 30 minute runtime). You could basically skip from the Act 1 to Act 5 and not miss anything
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>>77381798
He still has it, since he heals quickly, he is just now the fastest wheelchair alive.
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>that awful pop music over that pointless training Montage

Zooms neat though
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>>77381798
Ray is going to go all Fantastic Voyage to fix Barry's spine.
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What was the point of starting with a flash (heh) forward?
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>>77381880
That would make snese and be an ok setup for the crossover
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>>77381896
Fakeout for Barry getting beat.
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>>77381798
Wally and Garrick travel through time to stop Zoom before he breaks Barry.
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>>77381915
Except you find out in the scene immediately after it what their plan is
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>>77378063
>she's more awestruck about exchanging fluids with The Flash than secrets and lies
more like best DC CW-verse girl
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>>77381965
You forget that there are commercials.
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>>77377825

Damian Darkh's good fit as a villain for Arrow. Similarly how Zoom works for Flash due to being an outright brutal monster. Darkh's a pragmatic and charming Machiavellian mastermind villain. Different strokes, folks.
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Jay was right!
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Cisco being able to hit him was kind of dumb
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>>77381505
this is bait but i'll respond.

flash is a light-hearted property but it has plenty of fucked up dark moments in its long history. hell one of the best flash stories has a plot point where linda park's twins die in the womb because zoom attacks her. or how barry allen murders reverse flash and there's a whole trial surrounding it and it pissed off a lot of fans who reject the concept of heroes killing.

a show can have a light tone while still have dark turns.
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>>77382132
Cisco surprised him. Wells just stood there like an idiot.
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>>77382132
his vibe powers have the ability to fuck with the speedforce, plus zoom was distracted giving a monologue.
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>>77382132
>>77382155
He should've shot him again when he was reacting to the first one.
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Real talk i still prefer Reverse Flash to Zoom. Which is funny because in the comics i like hunter zolomon a lot more than thawne.
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>>77382155
I mean, Barry is fast enough to react to a bullet touching him, since Zoom is faster he should've been able to just move
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>>77382173
Reverse Flash had Wells, with a whole season to build up his character.

Zoom is just an evil speedster so far. Scary, but not much of a character yet.
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Guys

What if Zoom isn't even a human being and never was one to begin with
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so will johhny quicks formula be used to give jay his speed back, or give wells speed?
will the atom shrink barrys suit so it will fit in the ring?
holy shit that back snap tho!
considering zoom caught those bullets and wells shooting At him (like ollie did to RF) and cisco being able to mess with speed will zoom be to fast for ollie and the others to help barry?
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> this entire episode

I stood up on my couch
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>>77382232
What if Zoom is an ayy lmao?
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>>77380120

When that happened, my first reaction literally was
>thisisnowmyfetish.jpg
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>>77377738
48% of you gave it 10/10
Jesus, guys. This is the reason IMDb has such inaccurate ratings. It was a good episode, but perfect? Really?
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>>77381505
With the numbers it's getting, even if the tone changes, Supergirl's gonna get canceled long before that.
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>>77377660
I still think Zoom, even after this is Earth-2 Barry Allen.

>E2 Barry goes to save his Mom

>He fails and Eobard just gloats

>Barry fucking loses it

>He kills RF and accidentally steals his speed

>Seeing his mother die when he failed to save her makes Barry lose it. Also some contrived CW crap about absorbing a bit of zooms personality

>He becomes obsessed with speed because if he could of been just a little faster, he could of saved his mom. So he kills other speedsters/ creates a reign of terror as he does anything and everything possible to get faster/ be the fastest


Then he got all fucked up and suit morphed when Wells tried to catch him


Thats my bet at least
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>>77382290
Seriously I can't believe you guys are eating this shit up. The episode was shit other than the last maybe 1/3.
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>>77382252
>the last 5 minutes

Ftfy
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>>77381430

The original guy making them probably got sick and tired of people bitching about the chart every week. Or just didn't feel up to it. Or is lazy. Or didn't feel like there was point to anymore. Pick your poison.
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So Barry is now Harrison Wells for an episode or two
Who will GOTTAGOFAST to save Caitlin?
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>>77381798
Doesn't ray have shrink ray stuff?
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>>77382256
I just realized that aliens are the one thing we haven't seen yet in Arrowverse. We got magic and speed-force/science shit, but not aliens.
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>>77382347

Jay, duh. And then they will fuck.
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Patty is going to use her CW detective skills to figure out who The Flash really is next episode.

And then she's not going to tell Barry and wait for him to tell her and get buttmad he hasn't told her yet.

Patty still best girl.
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>>77380120
Gonna have to start walking around the house without pants, then. Just in case. Might catch her off guard.

>>77382347
Future Barry.
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>>77382388
God I hope not

>Why didnt you tell me you were the Flash?!?!?

>Jesus Christ Patty we went only went on one date.

>WHY?!?!?!?!
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>>77382322
Here's how by large every single Flash episode seems to work. Your standard 45 minute show consists of 6 acts separated by commercial breaks.

Act 1 resolves the cliffhanger from the previous episode and sets up the next leg of the seasons overarching plot, then someone will say "let's go to Jitters, the police station, etc"

Acts 2-5 focus on plot stuff that is largely self contained to that particular episode (meta human of the week and such) or pushing subplots forward like relationship stuff. Every once in a while someone will mention the overarching plot but it's usually just a quick line and no real development until...

Act 6 where we get back to the overarching plot and usually caps off the show with a cliffhanger or some sort of unresolved plot beat that carries into the next episode.

They follow this formula almost dogmatically
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>>77380487
None of those were the problem with felicity. Felicity crying all over season 3 was the problem with felicity.
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>>77382424
Spot on.
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>>77381383
Assemble all the Rogues.
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>>77379176
>Clark wasn't allowed to be Superman in Smallville. And they held to that to a ridiculous degree.
Actually, THAT was allowed. Remember that Smallville was given a version of the "Returns" suit.
Welling did not want to wear wear the full suit though (NOT even for promo/magazine shots [the ones that went around the internet are shoops]). He had a point, though, Clark should learn to fly first and be a "filled-up" solar-battery to earn the right to wear the suit and be called Superman.
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>>77380487
She also has really nothing to do with the plot of the show. Let's take a look at what she did this week:

Sit around the police station
Have a pointless conversation with Joe
Get kissed by Barry
Shoot Zoom but she was just part of the crowd and none of this had anything to with her as a character

And yet she gets quite a bit of screentime
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>>77381383
The Anti-Monitor
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>>77382242
ray will probs shrink suit in like season 3,jay will get his speed some other way probably in season finale and they might change the end fight from last season then have ollie give back up
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>>77382322
>Linda time
>Shit

No.
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>>77382313
>It's actually flash dad, and pretty much everything you said happens, only it's not just Barry's mom who was killed, but RF succeeded in killing Barry too, erasing the Flash.
>That lightning still had to choose someone though, so when the day cape, it was Barry's dad who got the power, and he used it to go back in time and save his son and wife, que your explanation.

>Zoom will completely fold for a minute when he figures out who Earth-1 Flash is, but then will get even more mad, because Barry is not his son, just a pretender who is an insulting copy of his dead son, so he'll want to kill him even more.
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>>77382516
>Actually, THAT was allowed. Remember that Smallville was given a version of the "Returns" suit.
Yes, and it took them 10 years to get to that point in the very last episode. The motto of the show as "No flights, no tights."
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>>77382556
You really enjoyed that shit Montage set to awful pop music?
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>>77382381
>S5 opens with some really werid plot point/character
>"Diggle, I wasn't always on the island for those 5 years"
>"Oh man, this is gonna be good. So where were you Ollie?"
>"I was on Mars..."
>cue flashback
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>>77382516
>Taking ten years to wear the suit
>Muh typecasting

Fuck welling
Fuck his dead career
Fuck you
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>>77382572
And then he flew in like season 3, fooking dumb
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>>77382579
"Your name is Jonn Jonzz?"
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>>77382591
Tfw tom welling is still the most powerful live action superman.
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>>77377904

don't be saying stupid shit like that, Season 1 had amazing fights with Reverse Flash, this one was cool because of how badass Zoom is and how he draged Barry around town
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>>77382591
Have you seen him? I'd let him fuck me.

>>77382622
I'm still holding on the pipe dream that Tom return to DCW as Superman
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>>77382693
>I'm still holding on the pipe dream that Tom return to DCW as Superman

>Brandon Routh and Tom Welling interacting
>tons of Superman puns by the CW writing staff

I can see it happening.
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if it is barrys dad thats zoom......... and his dad was the flash in the 90s..... crisis on infinite earths confirmed 90s flash ran so fast he saved the multiverse the burns deformed him instead of killing him is then driven insane and starts killing speedsters 90s flash best flash
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>>77381965
Yeah, but at that point (and even by the end of the episode), E2 Dr. Lindight is still at large, so it COULD have been a "real fight"

I mean it literally fooled exactly zero people, but the narrative was consistent.
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>>77382184
we don't know if his powers work the same way. might not be speedforce powered.
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>>77382854
cropped it a bit for ya
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>>77382381
>Implying Hawk Girl isn't from Thanagar.
Reminder that JLU Hawk Girl was a Thanagarian and a reincarnated Egyptian princess.
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>>77382387
bravo, 10/10
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>>77382571
It won't be flash dad since they just confirmed E2 arrow is robert queen. two capedads is stupid.

it won't be E2 barry either because that's stupid too.

all these theories are stupid.
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JAY WAS RIGHT
YOU WEREN'T READY BARRY!!
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>>77382974
>results into crippled Barry
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>>77382971

YOU'RE STUPID.

You stupid stupidhead.
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post yfw zoom doomed barry and nobody could do a thing to stop him

i really wanna see professor zoom at max speed vs zoom now.
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>>77379932
I felt the threat. I was 90% sure he was going to kill Linda.
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>>77382971
We already went past the cape dad stupidity barrier.
Remember that one time the flash fucked up the timeline, and Batman's parents became Batman and the Joker?
This is a repeat of that with Greed Daddow.
Don't see why they can't go for the trifecta with Flash Dad.
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>>77382995
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>>77382995
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>>77382387
Fucking saved
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I hope RF vs Zoom happens because he has to save Barry to save his speed
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How is Berry going to stop Guerilla God in the next episode if he's paralyzed?
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>>77381383
Abra Kadabra
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>>77383011
but they're not gonna use the same twist two times in a row. having BOTH E2 counterparts, Flash and Arrow, be their E1's fathers is dumb, and E2 RobertArrow is easily a reference to Flashpoint Batdad. Zoom is gonna be someone else.
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>>77383086
Nuclear powered exploding banana.
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inb4 zoom is Earth 2 Barry Allen

They've been hinting at it with the E2 people killing their E1 counterparts
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http://strawpoll.me/5931109/

The offer's still available. If /co/ guesses who Zoom is by his reveal episode, I'll buy everybody in the thread a TPB of their choice.
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>>77382388
I will only accept this if the real reason she's upset is that she wasn't able to help or comfort Barry in his time of need.

>>77383011
>Greed Daddow.

Okay, we really have to put a moratorium on nicknames if that's the best people can do anymore.
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>>77383123
come up with that one all by yourself?
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>>77383106
>Having two heroes be replaced by dad is dumb.
>Having a perfect analogue for Arrow and Flash isn't.
>Having a speedster in every universe isn't.
>Having the same genetic makeup in people in every universe while everyone made different life choices since the dawn of time isn't.

The point is, that the only difference between stupid and cool, is presentation.
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>>77383175
I'm not JUST saying it's dumb, I'm saying they're not going to reuse the same narrative device for both of their headlining heroes. E2 is not going to be dadworld.
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When Zoom kept saying The Flash, I kept hearing THE FAAASH
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>>77383106
They're not using the same twist twice though. Arrow dad is Thomas Wayne and Henry is Martha Wayne.
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>>77383263
Yeah, and I'm just saying that for every stupid way it could work, there's a cool way it could work.

I mean throughout the history of the Flash, it was always about Destiny. About how he was supposed to become the flash (Except with Mopey.) that the universe needs him to be the Flash.
If it ends up being Dadworld, they could establish that as some sort of inspirational angle, because "it's in their blood".

Also, I'm not saying it will be like that, I'm just trying to say that it's not impossible.
You're probably right in that it won't be, but we might always be surprised.
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>>77381383
Do an adaptation of Rogue War.
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>>77377798
barry can shoot lightning now? since when has this bullshit been happening?
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>>77383379
Second episode of this season.
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>>77383379
Since Jay Garrick taught him.
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>>77378202
DAMN
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Wait so there are gonna be two Dr. Lights?

One a hero with gadgets and another a meta thief?
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>>77383475
One a hero with gadgets and one a pervert running around naked, yes. In fact, from now on, Earth-2 Dr. Light will be in the background of every Star Lab scenes, masturbating, but invisible
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>>77380028
I just imagine the speedforce is all about absorbing the energy around you, thus making things appear slower. So when he grabs those bullets, he absorbs all the energy and they just stop completely. Also explains why speedsters can't just obliterate anything they touch and why cold powers are effective, not much energy to absorb.
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Robot when?
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>>77383081
>RF vs. Flash vs. Zoom
>just a light show of red, yellow, and blue lightning
>mfw
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>>77383588
>ollie comes in and beats professor zoom and zoom by himself again
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>>77383527
>Invisible force going around Central City.
>Only sign of passing are little puddles of watery, gooey "ectoplasm".
>Rumours spreading in Central City about a ghost.
I swear to god Anon.
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>>77378205
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>>77383601
>yfw one of thse crossovers, Ollie will use one of Flash's lightning bolts as an arrow.
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>S1 - main villain RF styles on Barry in episode 8
>S2 - main villain Zoom breaks Barry in episode 6
we're on track for season 4 or 5 to just open with Barry getting punched in the face by the main villain
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>>77379905
I just don't get why Zoom didn't unmask Barry to the media
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I want Wally in the show so bad. I want my Flash family back.
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>>77383620
>Barry imbues an arrow with speedforce and makes him a speed arrow that accelerates infinitely
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>>77383645
He was planning to kill him. Better the Flash be remembered as powerless, feeble, and dead then given a name and face to be remembered.
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>>77383649
>wally comes in for a few episodes
>leaves next season, using the show to further his career
fuck you roy. hope you enjoy making shitty app commercials for the rest of your life.
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>>77383649
>Wally
>White
Fucking white washing.
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>>77383645
Because he's a serial killer, not a dick.
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>>77383670
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>>77383676
Also it didn't really matter if the public knew he was Barry or not, he just wanted to tarnish the Flash's reputation before having sex with him.
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>>77380726
Dat filename
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>>77377798
was the sick flip really necessary?
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>>77383707
>before having sex with him.
Whatnow?
>>
Honestly, I half expected Zoom to make a trip to Star City so he can dangle Barry in Oliver's face in the new Quiver.
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>>77383737
Well yeah, did you think he was going to kill him? If he kills him it's just over, he wanted him to live in shame. Mark my words it's going to happen before the season is over.
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>>77383726
Didn't you know anon? Zoom is Earth-2 Roy
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>>77378455
They're not going to listen man. Chloe is still the GOAT awkward qt love interest on the CW/WB. Felicity and Patty are just......grating.

>>77379862
I was never one who ripped on the Arrow cast's acting, but fucking hell Matt just blew like 70% of the cast out of the water with his acting. I really hope that he doesn't show up on the show again because it really displayed some serious weak acting on Arrow.

(And before anyone comes at me, Paul and John are good ofc but that's it. Everyone else is limited.)
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can someone gif or webm the fight?
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>>77377798
Zoom is left handed judging by this picture. Do we know any left handers?
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>>77383726
Yes. everyone knows mid-air flips and looking cool powers up your attacks.
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>>77383785

It's not so much a fight, but Barry taking a large black rapidly vibrating dick over and over.
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>>77383783
Just for the record, are you not English?
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>>77383800
Don't be a fool, he could be ambidextrous.
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>>77383810
i know i was trying to make the fastest cripple alive feel better while he rolls on with his life
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>>77378085
Literally no chance of that happening. Patty is just gonna want to fuck Barry even more after finding out that he's the Flash.
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Does anybody have that page of Flash in a wheelchair rolling around town at super speed? I lost it when I reformatted and I can't find anything on google because it just shows the TV show Wells.
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>mfw zoom is e-2 barry
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>>77383925
>Mfw Zoom is Earth-2 Iris
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>>77383936
I hope Convergence brought this glorious asshole back to life.
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So Wells is going to be Johnny Quick?
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>>77383936
>>77383951
>yfw Zoom is Earth-2 Wally West.

I'm not even joking. Search your heart. You know it's the only true answer.
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>>77384003
I think Earth-2 Wally is actually going to be named Daniel. It makes the most sense. I mean, he even has the claws.
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>>77378220
>>77378283
I dont get how DC can still have this mindset. i mean casuals wernt confused when there were 2 quicksilvers right?
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>>77384003
>not E-2 Joe
>not E-2 Henry
>not a new character
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>>77383999
Yes and no. Harrison Wells was actually an acclaimed scientist from the 25th century named Eobard Thawne who travelled back in time to exact his revenge on the Flash aka Jay Garrick, however due to circumstances he was forced to use crazy identity theft technology from the future to take on the form of a scientist named Johnny Quick that looks exactly like Harrison Wells of Earth-1. He changed his name and his daughter's name to Wells because he fucking wanted to.
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>>77378753
he was sad so he jump and dieded
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>>77384036
Why would they have different names?
So far everyone in the parallel worlds had the exact same name and genetic make up.
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>>77384144
I was joking anon, I have no fucking idea if Wells is going to be Johnny Quick or not. His name isn't Johnny for one.
>>
The only way i can see Zoom dying is by Eobard's hand.
>>
Why can't they just get decent writers?
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>>77384178
Why can't you just kill yourself?
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>>77384216
Because you love me.
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>>77384238
Maybe if you were a corpse I would.
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>>77384244
Would you love me forever?
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>that crunch
holy shit no
zoom is fucking terrifying
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>>77384298
That was terrifying
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>>77384298
yeah the crunch was what made the beat down so devastating
>>
I wonder if they'll be able to realize that they have an ultimate anti-speedster teammate in time. Vibe could fucking stop Zoom and draw a fucking hitler mustache on his mask if they allowed him to develop his powers. I'm just worried writers won't go there.
Though, if the finale is Flash Family taking Zoom down, I'm ok with that. And it would be great if Wally outrun him at some point with no help or speed dampeners/enhancers.
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yfw zoom reveals he's E2 Eobard and this starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm0UHLItYt0
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>>77384298
Dragging Barry's body around like a rag doll was freaky shit.
>>
Did you guys catch that Wally cameo?
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>thats my Jesse, always so quick!
Wait a minute, this isn't Gotham for fucks' sake
>>
Here's how CW will go for the next 2 weeks

> Flash: Grodd Episode
> Arrow: Finding Ray Palmer feat. STAR Labs

Then Ray fixes Barry with Atom magic
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>thats my Jesse, always so quick!

Jesus Christ really Berlanti?
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so is it assumed during the crossover ollie teaches barry fighting moves so that he can beat zoom with out being as fast?
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So is E2 Wells really Jesse's father, or will it turn out he is in fact E2 Eobard and he's doing with her more or less the same thing Eobard did with Barry?
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>>77384216

I'd rather kill this show's writers.
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what would you rather see jay and barry vs zoom
or reverse flash vs zoom,or reverse flash, jay and barry vs zoom
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>>77384598
As many speedsters as possible all vs zoom
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>>77384598
Reverse Zoom vs Zoom Jay vs Double Reverse Barry
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>>77384676
And in the final moments, as all the speedsters except Barry are taken down, they lend Barry their speed to maintain a fighting chance.
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>>77384598
reverse flash vs. zoom

two speedsters, one that can travel through time and one that can travel through space, going all out. either one of them would kill the other given the chance.
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i would rather see 90s flash vs zoom
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>>77384753
it would be amazing epic fight to the death
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>>77384725
Then Barry becomes the Super Speedster God? If he ascends beyond that will he become Super Speedster God Super Speedster?
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when zoom gets unmasked i dont want it to be when hes unconscious i hope his mask/helmet slowly gets chipped away during the final fight as the punches are so intense
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>>77384797
But won't blue fighting blue make it a bit confusing?
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>>77384800
I hope it gets ripped off during a fight only to reveal another mask
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>>77384818
Or melted flesh
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>>77384800
yeah i would rather that then scooby doo unmasking
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>>77384818
turns out to be barrys mum who faked her own death with help from wellsobard
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>>77378431
Can you imagine being one of the regular people? Flash is your city's hero, you have a day, coffee and love him. Then suddenly from nowhere some guy you don't know just shows up with the Flash having already been defeated gloating over his body. The fuck would be going through there heads?
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>>77377660
My theory is that Zoom is Henry Allen (Earth-2). This picture is from The Flash New 52 Issue 45, where Henry Allen is forced to create a device for stealing powers. See the claws on the glove and colour scheme, very similar to Zoom (as seen in the latest episode, Zoom definitely has claws). Also, if you get a picture of John Wesley Shipp (Henry Allen actor) and Zoom, you'll see the eye colour similarities. Also, I just get the vibe that Zoom is an older man. The only other theory I'd consider is Earth-2 Barry Allen, but IMO Shipp seems more villainous than Gustin, due to Grant's baby face. As for why Henry left early in the season, I'd say it's because Earth-2 Henry may have killed and replaced his Earth-1 counterpart, or Zoom gave Earth-1 Henry a warning to stay away from Barry, or maybe Zoom is using Henry (similar to what Thawne is doing in the image).
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>>77384466
Nope
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>>77384797
Impossible, no one can go beyond Super Speedster God.
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>>77384502
I can see that easily happening
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rogues vs zoom would be great especially because they have all fought a speedster before and have probably been planning on how to take down the flash
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>>77379064
Running around on Earth-1 in a Bruce and black suit under the name Zoom
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>>77382571
But Zoom already knows who Flash is, didn't he unmask him at STAR labs at the end of the latest episode?
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>>77379286
I don't think Zoom can be Eddie (at least not Earth-1 Eddie) because Zoom has been shown to be on Earth-2 before the Singularity where Eddie died.
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>Patty even brings up possibility of invisibility
>not now bitch go make a sandwich

when will best girl be let in
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>>77380594
use make-up to make is look as melted as his mask.
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SO Firestorm is gonna deal with Grodd right
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>>77384972
if his son died when he was little how wouldzoom no what his son looks like in his 20s
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S-Someone post lewds of Patty.
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>>77385218
yeah or hawk girl or jay(with no powers)
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What if Zoom is such a threat it kick starts the Legends of Tomorrow as a team

Also who is really wishing they would hit at Captain Marvel in earth 2 since the whole place seems like a very Fawcett city vibe
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so is jay going to comeback because he saw Barry on tv and decides to help or see if hes okay
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>>77385258
No, because Jay is a selfish dick.
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>>77385245
It seems they totally forgot they had another dude with powers on hand, i guess they had to budget the CGI
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Apparently there's a specific reason Zoom sent other dudes first before just stepping in and wrecking Barry's shit. Wonder why it is.
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>>77385302
Because it was fun
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>>77385305
>"Why did you send people, why not come after me in the first place?"

>"Well, it's what you're supposed to do"

Zoom confirmed for fiction nerd
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>>77385302

Test how good Barry is, probably.
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>>77381419
jesus fuck she's ugly
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>>77385349
>actor makes an exaggerated face
>hur hur she's ugly
kill yourself
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>>77383649
but he'll be black and thats gross
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>>77385377
but she was ugly the whole time, so is caitlyn
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We ever gonna see more of this? I was so hyped and then he was just down in one shot.
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>>77385407
Unwelcome to Earth Bizarro!
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>>77383726
look at the momentum of the flip it makes sense
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>>77385418
They basically used their entire budget for that ep on those 15 seconds, so it's not likely
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>>77385418
they basically blew that episodes budget on the cameo they cant afford to have a king shark centric ep
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>>77377798

>ZOOM IS ZEUS
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>>77378151

>DAT ASS

Every time she's on screen.
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>>77378431

This has so much photo shop pontential.

Shoop all the bullets as ">"

And when he drops them they're all "(You)s"
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>>77385418
>>77385587
>>77385589

But now I really, really want one.

Also King Shark vs Grodd episode!
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>tfw watching the beatdown

Last week I was thinking Jay was scared of fighting Zoom just for drama and the sudden cowardice was bizarre, because even if Wells thought he was slower than Barry, Jay still fought his villains solo and won, and did things that Barry hadn't even thought to try (like the lightning throw).

Holy shit was I wrong, Zoom is fucking horrifying and no wonder Jay was crapping his pants at the thought of fighting him.
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Who the fuck is Tiny Todd?

And what the fuck happened to barry dad from e2 being zoom?

Did I miss something? Was something announced?
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>>77377965
Cause zoom is obviously Nightstalker, so he have speed bonus at night.
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>>77384019
They specifically struck a deal to avoid that. One was Peter, one was Pietro Maximoff aka Quicksilver. I preferred the former.
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>>77385947
Yeah. This is why I kinda with they'd say Ezra Miller is playing Bart, not Barry. They're both "Bartholomew Allen" and Ezra usually has long/big hair, like Bart.
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>>77386099
Why does it fucking matter? The movie and the TV show are both WB properties.
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>>77384539
Why didn't they use nanomachines like the last time?
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Love how the preview plot for next episode just says Barry is fine
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Tfw Tony Todd is channeling General Benjamin Zuma(Season 7 of TwentyFour) as Zoom!!
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The Flash 2x07 Extended Promo "Gorilla Warfare" (HD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOYrMPIX-d8

>Barry in Wellschair
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>>77386326
The man that made them is too tiny to make them
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How is Barry gonna stop Grodd next episode? He's powerless as fuck right now and Firestorm is outta town. I'm guessing it's up to Star Labs and the police to fight off a giant gorilla?
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R U AGITATED?
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>>77382313
>>77382571
I highly doubt there was lighting and even a reverse flash-eobard in earth 2
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