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>Wow. What a crazy couple of days it has been. My parody cover

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>Wow. What a crazy couple of days it has been. My parody cover sketch of Spider-Gwen aping the infamous Manara Spider-Woman pose sent some of the hypersensitive people in a tizzy.

>To be honest, I was amused and surprised by the uproar since it was, in my opinion, over nothing. It’s essentially a small group of angry and humorless people ranting against my DRAWING of a pretty woman. It’s utter nonsense. This world would be a better and a happier place if some people just grow a sense of humor and relax.

>Now, I’m getting bombarded by various bloggers asking for an interview addressing this “scandal”. Instead of me wasting my breath and precious time over this non-issue replying to all the interviewers, I’ve drawn another cover sketch in response which will, hopefully, answer all the questions.

>Enjoy, everyone.

>– –
>FRANK CHO
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Pretty based of him.
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Now that's a funny take on it
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>>71048434
Fucking hilarious.
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>>71048434
This is why i love cho
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>>71048434
BASED CHO
A
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C
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>>71048434
10/10, keep at it Cho
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Shhh no words.
Only dreams.
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>>71048434

Based Cho.
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>>71048434
NO FUCKS
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>>71048434
Okay, what are some of the best comic Cho's worked on? I need to have something by someone this based on my shelf?
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BASED
ASED
SED
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D
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>>71048562
this
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>>71048562
Shanna the She-Devil.
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>>71048562
Liberty Meadows
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>>71048434
Kek. Good ol' cho.
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>>71048562
Red Sonja:Queen of the Frozen Wastes.
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>>71048434
>people were thinking he was going to apologize
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>>71048434
>my DRAWING of a pretty woman

Kind of an oxymoron with comic book artists
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BASED CHO

CAN'T BLASTER THE BUTTMASTER

HATERS BTFO
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i'm glad he doesn't want to waste any time on it. good response.

now if only everyone else would stop wasting their own time...
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>>71048434
I clapped so hard at this, I became American.
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can't stow the cho
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>>71048434
HA HA HA HA HA
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on one hand i want to hate Cho because of his retarded stance on Superman.

on the other hand he does based as fuck shit like this.
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It would have been better if he had released it without commenting. That makes him sound like a bitch.
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>>71048562
He has a new book out today. Jungle Girl Season 3. It's a full comic of nearly nude bitches and dinosaurs eating people.
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>>71048761
>That makes him sound like a bitch.
In what way?
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>>71048790
Why they all gotta be bitches tho
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>>71048790
Aw shit new Jungle Girl? Some good shit.
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>>71048434
Damn son

10/10
#rekt
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>>71048792
The cutesy tone is what ruins it and makes him sound like he's taking it just as seriously as the people he's attempting to rile up. It's terrible. The image itself says what he's trying to say in a less stupid way.
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>>71048848
ounds to me like you're taking it too seriously.
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>>71048434
>Mister J
>Not Mistah J

Into the trash it goes
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>>71048434
Shit, he also managed to make an amusing joke out of it. This is breaking all sorts of records.
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>>71048748
> muting randoms on Twitter with a verified account
> telling people you've muted them
Just gotta get the last word in, eh Slott?
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>>71048880
I just really hate that "look at me, I'm so clever!" tone. Conversational posts are ok but this shit annoys me.
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>>71048536
Book readers? REally?
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>>71048434
Based fucking Cho

Fuck McKelvie and Rodriguez
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Hasn't Harley not been with the Joker for decades now though?
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>>71048434
This makes me angry as hell

Angry that Cho hasn't done the art in anything I regularly read aside from the occational badass cover.
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>>71048751

No one's perfect.
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>>71048434
Finally, someone who is willing to stand up to the insanity.
Hopefully this is the beginning of more artists just saying no when someone makes a big stink about their art and wants it censored or changed.
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>>71048790
Thanks, I'll check it out once I finish Marvel's Oz series Liberty Meadows also looks fun
Cheers guys
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>>71048917
Have you tried chilling the fuck out?
>>71048933
>decades
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Let us now wait for tumblr to explode.

Because you know they will.
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Never change, Cho.
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>bloggers
I wonder who contacted him. Also I want to commission him for art, but he only does con commissions, right?
I might just buy one of his books. I always liked his art,
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>>71048974
I am chill, I'm just critiquing the post. What else is there to discuss anyway other than the delivery since we all agree that he's right?
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>>71048917
I really hate that contrarian tone in your post.

And the words in it.

And you.
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>>71048434
Based Cho. Take that tumblr
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>>71049015
Mary Sue said they asked him for comment.
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>>71048988
tumblr don't care, this is a twitter storm
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>>71048434
>tfw the usual TheMarySue commenters are clutching their pearls

I'd be shocked if these people actually read manga
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Can /co/ commission a bunch of cripple variants or something? I want to see sexy neck broken Gwen, sexy bullet wounded Babs...
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>>71048918
That comment was enough trigger for a free mod to warrant a ban, tumblr has really taken over /co/
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>>71049015
>I wonder who contacted him.
The Mary Sue, I imagine

Though same here, I've often seen his art posted on /co/ and he's real good. I've just always had always series I was catching up with; after this I've got not excuse not to read a comic he drew
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>>71048434
Based, simply based.
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>>71049080
Sexy refrigerator?
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I do wish Cho would've actually debated or talked with someone about this in an open forum instead of just this cover
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PARKER!

I need screenshots!

TWITTER SCREENSHOTS!
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>>71049094
More like it was just a garbage comment. If you want to act like you're in /v/, go to /v/. This is /co/.
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>>71049132
i dont think Cho's really the debating type

he gives zero fucks
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I'm glad to see the whiners aren't getting him down. It's such a silly thing to complain about that this is the only kind of response that they deserve. They're obviously going to scream even louder over this, but it'll probably fall on deaf ears now.
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>>71049134
On it boss man

>>71049132
He did. Except he went full blown nuclear with his first response
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>>71048966
>tfw Robbie Rodriguez and Jaime McKelvie are with the SJW.
Like... actively commenting on these pics.
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>>71049132
SJWs don't want actual debates they just want to scream until the other side gives up.
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>>71049078
>it shows a clear disregard for the perfectly valid outrage over Manara's original Spider-Woman variant
>perfectly valid outrage
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>>71049132
Why, there's no reason. These people are impotent hysterics, there's no reason to engage them since their opinions are worthless. It's, as he said, a complete waste of time.
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>>71048922
I know Rodriguez said some shit about Gwen being his daughter or whatever, but what did that cunt McKelvie say?
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>>71049132
Why? He can draw what he wants. Marvel didn't even pay him for this, this was a sketch cover commission. It would suck if artists had to ask the thought police what is ok to draw before they were "allowed" to draw it.
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>>71048434
If that's real then that's awesome. That is the appropriate response.
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>>71049177
I haven't seen McKelvie's response, but Rodriguez' was pathetic.
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>>71048434
Would any of the people who complained at least say "Well played, Cho"?
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Is Cho the first major comic creator to take a stand against oversensitive SJW's? Everyone else either actively drinks the kool-aid or buries their head in the sand.
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>>71049132
Dude the designer of the costume threatened him.

Like his whole point is that people are making a controversy out of nothing, why would he go to a debate that is legitimizing a conflict he thinks does not need to exist?
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>>71048434
Our new lord and master - Cho!
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>>71049180
Like you guys do...all the time. Just scream and scream and never do anything productive.
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>>71049146
And you don't get paid for this
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>>71049198
McKelvie retweeted some guy saying "This is shitty." As in "It's shitty he's doing this on purpose and it's uncalled for."

>https://twitter.com/DavidUzumeri/status/585095031918198784
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>>71049078
>Reductive to the plight of women
>When he draws women empowered it's ok but not when they make them sexy

People read this garbage? For real?
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>>71049177
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It would have been better if it was Batgirl instead of Harley.
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>>71049249
You know, /co/ is the only board you will see people legitimately defending tumblr types
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>>71049228
>>71049198
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>>71049251
Neither do you, champ. We're both posting in an anime imageboard in our own free time.
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How can one man be so fucking based?
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>>71048817

Yeah why call them that? I like hot half naked girls as much as the next person but you don't have to be crass about it.
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>>71049237
>Frank Cho saved comics!
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>>71048562
I honestly loved the issues he did with Bendis for Mighty Avengers.
That Ares fight against the Iron Man suits was pretty cool.
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>>71048434
kek
Whiny bitches BTFO!
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>>71049230
I doubt it.
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>>71048434
Bless you, Cho.
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>>71049241
>Dude the designer of the costume threatened him.
Elaborate.
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>>71049180

This is really funny cause Cho is the one who didn't want a debate.

>>71049193
>>71049213
>>71049241

Why are they so enraged? Why is Cho so flippant? Why not try to discuss it with each other, especially with an opportunity like being asked for an interview? Go on it and defend yourself!

He says it's nothing but this kind of thing keeps happening....
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>>71049078
>We will update as necessary
This gunna be gud
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>>71049269
Maybe Batgirl is up next?
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I can't wait for Robbies tweet.
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>>71049284
I don't work here, i do go searching in threads to find stuff that offends me and banning them for that.
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I don't envy the amount of shit Cho is going to catch for this. It's so much easier to just keep your trap shut and let the loudest side win.
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>>71049283
Thanks. That's pretty whiny, but I think Rodriguez' response is sadder.
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>>71049322
What debate? There is nothing to debate. He is an artist and he makes art. He does not and should never let some stupid little girl on twitter or tumblr strongarm him into not making whatever the hell he wants. Grow up
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>>71049344
>one of my kids
Oh my god, what a faggot.
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>>71048751
Cho's done some other stupid things aside from that, but yes, he is actually right in this case. This was a "controversy" that should never have been a controversy in the first place.

And I kind of expected him to do a response since I remembered that University2 comic he did in response to complainers.
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>>71049263
One of their own commenters said that TMS is turning into Jezebel
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>>71049322
Cho has nothing to gain by trying to defend himself to these people.
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Frank Cho is my spirit animal.
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>>71049321
See
>>71049344
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>>71049344
>one of my kids
>I created Gwen Stacy
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>>71048748
>>71048913

"Tag, Not-It Forever Whooo!"
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>>71049322
>Why are they so enraged?
Benevolent sexism, paternalism.
>Why is Cho so flippant?
He likes drawing lewd women and has been his entire career. Anyone who doesn't like lewd women should follow other artists who cater more to their tastes.
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>>71049285
I want to explore that ass and claim it in the name of the queen
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>>71049344
nigga why the fuck are you giving your kids this kind of content to begin with

youre a fucking shitty parent if youre blaming your incompetence on others
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Why is Cho so fucking based?
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>>71049322
My guess is Cho doesn't want a debate because he's always had to deal with this for years going back all the way to the 90's.
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>>71049361
>everyone assuming it's a girl

CISfreaks need to check their privilege.
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That's a pretty based response. Cho should just claim racism if they throw it back on him.

I wonder if you can buy these sketch covers he is doing.
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>>71049176
>look at the pic out of curiosity
>it's a pig shitting
literal
shit
taste
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If I were Cho I wouldn't go on the internet for the next few days. The butthurt is going to be huge on this one.
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Are these people actually surprised that Cho did this?

Had they never heard of Cho or seen any of his artwork prior to these two covers?
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>>71049283
Uzumeri then blocked a woman after she said she liked Cho's art
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>>71049344
>Your drawing
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>>71049377
He designed the costume. It is a great costume.
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>>71049322
Are you kidding? Why should he explain himself? There's nothing to say. It's SJWs' problem.
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>>71049321
What's his face, Rodriguez I think the name is, said Cho disrespected his "child" and that Cho was "lucky we'll never be alone together".

>>71049322
Probably because it was a commission, pretty damn harmless by pin-up standards, and an interview in today's comic media market can only make Cho look bad. Like why does he have to go into a public forum to defend a private commission?
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>>71049435
I doubt he gives a single hot fuck
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>>71049413
He thinks that because he designed Spider-Gwen, he has the moral authority to decided how she is portrayed.
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>>71049413
He's not giving the stuff to his kids. He considers Spider-Gwen to be his kid. He's a nutto.
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>>71049435
>not marinating yourself in all that mad
Do you even know how to celebrate your victories?
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>>71049344
>One of my kids
>Be lucky your never around me
We got a badass here guys. Watch out.
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>>71049403
For some reason a lot of people are too dumb to realize that if you simply support the things you like there will be more of them because companies like money. And the things that don't sell will go away.
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>>71049435
Are you kidding? He's probably enjoying this. If he were still writing Liberty Meadows he'd probably have Monkey Boy Cho make a comment about it, then follow it up with some T&A only to get blocked by his editors again

Dammit I miss Liberty Meadows
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>>71049483
THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!
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>>71049314
My sides never asked for this
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>>71049479
This.

That drawing was Cho's victory lap. He won.
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>>71049468
What's this guy gonna do when spider-gwen gets handed off to someone else?
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I really hope people start sending Spider-Gwen porn to Rodriguez.
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>>71049452
I'm guessing most of the fashion designers also claim ownership of the women that wear their clothing then...
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>>71049344
>Spider-Gwen as a young, flexible, spider-powered preteen girl, climbing on walls and posing on rooftops
I'm okay with this.
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>>71049344
>your never around me
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>>71049344
>your instead of you're
>not once, but twice in the same tweet

As a grammar Nazi I have been #triggered.
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>>71049510
>>71049510
I almost want to see Spider-Gwen get knocked up by Norman Osborn again just to see all that mad.
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>>71049322
I think they are so enraged because they view Spider-Gwen as a sacred object. Which is really funny consdiering the whole "Objectifying" thing they are complaining about here.

Cho's response is because of the nature of the piece. It's unofficail. It's not even a comission IIRC. It's just a picture. The response is to him (and to me) disproportionate to the act because of the sanctity of the subject. To the creator and readers, she is a symbol of unsexualized femininity which is emerging and . . . not much else. She's a good character, sure, but they gloss that over for the sanctity with their arguments.

So, the people who object to her objectificataion are objectifying the very thing they wish to protect, albiet in a different way. While the perpetrator doesn't see what the fuss is about.

Was it insensitive? Possibly. I can understand the reasoning behind it all, but I don't think the action is warranted.

Then again, I never found the Manara cover 'offensive' as a sexist statement, but it was just bad looking and skewed with it's overall shape.
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>>71049514
This. He's retarded.
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Like our lord of hip hop and liberated woman Taylor Swift once said, haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate hate.
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>>71049322
>Why not try to discuss it with each other, especially with an opportunity like being asked for an interview? Go on it and defend yourself!
Well gee, maybe he figured out he's an artist, not a twitter shithead who's gonna be willing to sit through a rapid-fire twitter sermon, and anything he'd say is to be dismissed as mansplaining and mocking the plight of women in comics, making him an example and a prime cut of meat for a few rounds of clickbait.

Maybe if more people actually started ignoring and mocking the outrage brigade, they'd learn to live with that and we wouldn't have all these shitty threads.
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>>71049521
As a gun, I have been #triggered by your post.
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>>71049498
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God forbid someone not go along with turning comic books into yet another hugbox for leftist SJW.s.
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You know what really bugs me? There are these images which depict women in these poses. As they have been for decades. This isn't even sexual. I'm not sitting here beating to it. The guy is making a joke about a shit controversy that happened when it's probably Marvel's fault for HIRING A DUDE WHO REGULARLY DRAWS LEGIT EROTICA FOR A LIVING to do a cover for a character that has existed for years with a skin-tight suit. Not to mention Gwen, as a spider-person, is regularly doing spread eagles in mid air.

I don't even like Cho's art. I hate his noses. But he makes one fucking crack joke about a controversy and he's shit on from SJW. Meanwhile there have been comedians making fun of shit like the Holocaust and 9/11 and ISIS and countless other tragedies and HA HA IT'S SO FUCKING FUNNY I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT! People fucking DIED during that. You're telling me a woman bending over in JEST offends this many people?!?! How the FUCK do they even get out of bed in the morning?
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>>71049536
i also love how nowadays if a woman is drawn sexily its automatically objectification.

that's not how that works.
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>>71049509
It's so simple too, yet nearly every other artist is afraid of it
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>>71049536
>she is a symbol of unsexualized femininity
I never got this. Okay she isn't as sexualised as some but you still she her butt and tats in a skin tight costume all the time
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>>71049189
When someone says there is a valid outrage I start thinking, politician laundering money through a charity, drunk driver running over children on a playground and so on, not by his own admission in that article bitches feeling "discomfort" at looking at a sexy looking drawing.
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If Cho really wants to piss the new age comic geeks. He should do something with the selfie loving Batgirl.

That would create some worthy keks
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>>71049540

and just freaking creepy. You can't own an imaginary woman's sexuality, or a real one's for that matter.
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>>71049344
What a fucking tool

He deserves the full brunt of derision and mockery that the internet is capable of.
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>>71049358

But he felt strong enough to make another cover at them, this time intentionally with humor. Maybe I don't have enough of an artist mindset but it seems like a discussion would be an easier way to make a point. This seems aggressive and why is he aggressive? BTW I think this Quinn cover is a lot better.

>>71049425
>>71049403

These are good points

>>71049464

You're making me reassess my points, my hope was opening a debate would calm down this fire on all sides.

>>71049322

Good point too, Spider-Gwen is very different than an established figure. And that context is important/ interesting. It's another example of how fandom is expanding and including different groups
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>>71049553
>Maybe if more people actually started ignoring and mocking the outrage brigade, they'd learn to live with that and we wouldn't have all these shitty threads.
That isn't how it works though, these people get their way when no one speaks up. These people can and do get shit changed now and them doing so is getting faster and faster

If we don't speak of they all companies will hear is them
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>>71049078
isn't Gwen, like, in college or something?
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>>71048434
>Instead of me wasting my breath and precious time over this non-issue replying to all the interviewers, I’ve drawn another cover sketch in response which will, hopefully, answer all the questions.

"I'm not going to respond except with this response which will obviously create a bigger controversy."
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>>71049637
Nigga you think they looked past to cover to learn that?
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>>71049623
Did you just reply to yourself, saying 'good point'?
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>>71049361
weird. isn't TMS like way worse then Jezebel?
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>>71049559
Maybe the offended and triggered haven't spent enough time in their safe space. Be nice.
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>>71049638
Well, it's the funner route.
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>>71049638
The response is clear.
"I don't give a fuck, and I'll continue to do what I'm doing." He would've got shit for SAYING that. So who cares.
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>>71049637
She's old enough to drink at a bar.
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>>71049555
BuCowKe
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>>71049582
>bitches feeling "discomfort" at looking at a sexy looking drawing.
A lot of young, Americans get beat into their head that sexuality is bad m'kay.
In a PG-13 movie, you can show a piece of rebar going through some mook's head, but the lead female can't take her top off.
There was a sex reassignment show on E or whatever, and when he was a guy, no blurs on nipples or whatever, and while they were showing part of the fucking surgery, at some point the nipples got blurred. It's fucking mental.
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>>71049656

FUck me, I meant

>>71049536
about Spider-Gwen as sacred object

Pobody's Nerfect!
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>>71049662
I honestly wouldn't mind hanging out in the Safe Space. Free cookies, a place to nap, and videos of puppies I can whack it to. Juvenile, yes, but you'd be a fool to pass up free cookies.
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>>71049662
>Give college kids food and shit to play with
>Doesn't think a
everyone will take advantage of it

what an idiot
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>>71049686
Dem feet
I want to sexualize this Gwen as she is in this comic.
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>>71049344
If it's canon that's different but you don't see someone like Geoff Johns crying about sexy non-official pictures of Stargirl.

This is so dumb.
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>>71049600
She should send out naked snapchats with her in her cowl or something.
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>>71049435
just delete his twitter

they wont have an outlet to bitch at him if he doesnt have one

theyll have to resort into harassing him in a personal level which would be immoral and possibly illegal
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The fantastic thing is that both times he actually drew it better than Manara. There's no incredibly broken neck, the arms and legs are bent in more natural ways for a person resting in that position, and the ass actually looks like it would from that angle. No inhumanly deep and sharp heart-shaped buttocks. Extra points for them wearing things that actually look like clothing, and not just body-paint.

If the original cover had looked more like these, there probably wouldn't have been any outrage whatsover. If he'd posted similar images as an "improvement" when the original outrage happened he'd probably have been applauded for it.
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>>71049661
They're about level now. Jezebel in the past let it's feminist biases out in the open. They've culled it a bit recently. TMS is starting to ramp up the stupid.
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>>71048434
Fucking based.
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>>71049662
>"Hiding from Scary Ideas"

Do you think the Safe Space people realized the headline was mocking them? Or that people probably only came into the room for the free cookies?
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>>71049628
Yes, you are right. And Cho did that in a way he found appriopriate, which is ignoring their bleating and mocking them at the same time. I think it's a much better way than to try entertaining their outrage only to be dogpiled on twitter, screencaped and posted by shit sites as an example of misogynist asshole, and on /co/ as a pretext to shitpost about SJWs.

Yeah, he's still probably going to be hailed as the comic book equivalent of Elliot Rodgers by these fucking paranoiacs, but at least he didn't waste time on talking to people who don't want to hear anything.
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>>71049689
>There was a sex reassignment show on E or whatever, and when he was a guy, no blurs on nipples or whatever, and while they were showing part of the fucking surgery, at some point the nipples got blurred. It's fucking mental.
To be fair, nipples are actually more sexual on women. Guys feel nothing when they get their nipples touched but girls will enjoy it.
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>>71049728
The original outrage wasn't because Manara is a shit artist but because of the pose in general.
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>>71049662
Ok that picture makes my head hurt.
They are literally treating people like children and they think it's a good thing.
How the fuck?
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>>71048434
KEK

fuck them all Cho !
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>>71049728
>If the original cover had looked more like these, there probably wouldn't have been any outrage whatsover.
>People who read TMS wouldn't be outraged

That's the only thing they know
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>>71049435

What can they actually do to him? Besides the usually death threats and stuff I mean.
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I believe they call this the Top Gear method. Pissed off someone? Do it again, but do it bigger
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>>71049664
>>71049672

yeah but now crazy MRA and Gamergaters are holding up Cho as "one of them" when in actuality, he's just not kowtowing to kneejerk internet bullshit.
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>>71048434
We should get #WeSupportFrankCho trending to laugh even harder at this.

He's so damn based. Finally someone stands up to this retarded shit.
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>>71049750
That's not true.
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>>71049741
Is it true about the new male Ghostbusters movie? Because that legit sounds like a coward move. I get why people are mad.
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>>71049750
>Guys feel nothing when they get their nipples touched but girls will enjoy it.
Not all men, seriously.
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>>71049750
>Guys feel nothing when they get their nipples touched but girls will enjoy it.
I mean, I don't want to say you're wrong, but I like it when they play with my nips. Probably not as much as them, though.
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>>71049613
>You can't own an imaginary woman's sexuality, or a real one's for that matter.
/thread
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>>71049688

Moo-kake.
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>>71049748
Shit, I would've gone for free cookies.
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>>71049749
Well if that is true why haven't you helped curb the outrage all the other times with brilliant schemes?

The only reason this isn't more is there is nothing to be pulled
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>>71049662
A physical hugbox? Fucking A, America. What's next?
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>>71049774
>#Comicgate
No.
That's not happening.
>>71049775
They were always going to do that you know? #Change the cover hastags were showing up frequently already.
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>>71049803
I'd probably have gone for a lot less than a free cookie.
YOu don't want to know the kind of shit I'd do for a Klondike bar.
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all this fake outrage over Marvels version of bathipstergirl. Frank cho may be an ass but good fir him.
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>>71049237
>Drown in hobo piss.
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>>71049781
>>71049785
>>71049786
Just speaking from experience though. I just feel tickling, but girl love that shit.
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>>71049741
>this image

You could drizzle this mad over pancakes. So thick and rich.
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>>71049780
Turning this into a movement is what the tumblr types want because then they have a target beyond an artist simply doing what he does best.
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>>71049623
Internet debates, especially through media outlets who have a vested interest in manufactured controversy, usually feed more fires than they calm down. If you want to chill out a situation do it in "person", in a skype convo or an instant message or even an old fashioned phone call. Something that forces you to actually talk to the person instead of shooting quick quips everyone else can publicly comment on in real time.

Ultimately the picture isn't the public's business because its not official Marvel artwork. It doesn't matter what we think because its something private that got posted online; we can complain all we want, but the artist has a right to draw what he wants as long as the copyright holders do not object and the consumer's recourse if offended is to not patron that artist anymore.
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>>71049755
It started with that, but it was fuelled because of the impossibility of the pose. It's not like there's an outrage every time there's been someone posing like that, because the outraged need other things to critique, otherwise it dies down too fast.
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>>71049783
The ghosbuster movie is gonna be male, there is not female version, though they might add a women to the male cast.
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>>71049514
Which is way more sexist than a cheesecake commission. Quick! Someone with a twitter account accuse Rodriguez of trying to assert ownership over women.
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>>71049783
Here's the deal, making an all-women ghostbusters movie with a bunch of horribly unfunny gargoyles is a losing move. People in Hollywood don't like losing. The winning move is to make a ghostbusters movie with a group of people who have chemistry and an appreciation for the original, which the male cast does
It's not cowardly, it's realizing that maybe that first thing was a mistake that no one would like outside of internet feminists looking for something to hold over peoples' heads shouting "This is ours now neener neener"
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>>71049833
>That's not happening.
Not with that attitude.
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>>71049774
>#Comicgate
Seriously faggots. I hate all those SJW too but you are just asking for an scandal here.
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>>71049780

No. They will just hop on the tag and false flag. Right now they have no vectors to attack from and it is glorious.
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>>71049344
This is Chris-Chan levels of autism.

"NO PLEASE DON'T DRAW ROSECHU WITH A PENIS NO"
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>>71049888
It's still kinda ass for women who got excited by the original announcement though.
Honestly the better option was to have a mixed cast.
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>>71049867
>It started with that, but it was fuelled because of the impossibility of the pose
It isn't impossible, so many cosplayers have copied it by now. They just use that as an excuse for any pose tehy don't like

The poses most superheroines are nothing compared to something like jojo
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>>71049662
>that entire article

these bitches need play-doh when they hear opinions they don't like? that is insane.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB6TiRJNI-Q
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>>71049836
Nigger I would kill you for a klondike bar
Not even fronting
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>>71049914
masturbatin' and squirtin'
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>>71048434
Thank you, Cho.
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>>71049922
>It's still kinda ass for women who got excited by the original announcement though.
Those women are stupid. Is the only thing that can make them happy is reappropriation shit? Make your own and actually support others
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>>71049922
Honestly, a 2 and 2 cast with no romantic subplots between the team would've been great. I just want to seem more male/female professional or just friendly relationships. Not everything has to turn romantic.
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>>71049933
To be fair i would like some play-doh when listening to SJWs.
I could make little dinosaurs and fight them instead of listening to their stupid.
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The word "based" has been used 18 times in this thread so far.

You guys should really stop being meme spouting machines and try to have an original thought for once.

>inb4 somoene accuses me of being a butthurt sjw because I'm tired of seeing useless posts that add nothing to the conversation.
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>>71049922
Like I said, most of those women were only excited for it because it was taking something away from "da bois clurghb"
They didn't actually care about the movie and likely would not have gone to see it since they already got what they wanted with the destruction of a beloved property
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>>71049961
I don't get why you are so buttblasted over this. I bet you got mad when Falcon became Cap.
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>>71049662
You know, it's hard to put myself in their shoes...

but if I were a victim of sexual violence and I was upset by something I heard in that debate and some clueless ass escorted me to a room with Play-Doh, puppies and cookies, I'd probably feel patronized and insulted.
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SJWs BTFO

BLOWN

THE

FUCK

OUT
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>>71049662
I wonder, how those kind of people will do when they will have a job, when their boss will say something that will "trigger" them or a colleague will disagree with them ?
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>>71049818
I have no fucking idea what are you trying to tell me and if you even quoted the right post tbh
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>>71049974
>Not everything has to turn romantic.
God bless this anon. I'm sick of romance subplots.
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>>71049977
>asking 4chan to stop being 4chan

/co/ isn't even half as bad with this compared to other boards, settle down
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>>71049977
Man, you a straight busta.

Not based at all, Lil B would be ashamed.
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>>71049899
Hm...Considering the gamergate scandal fucked over Kotaku & friends, perhaps this is for the best.
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>>71049925
You'll have to have a really bendy neck to get your head that far up, man.

The rest was just... Implausible, as it's not a comfortable way to rest at all. Cho definitely drew them relaxed rather than contorted.
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>>71049922
I thought they were making both?

Honestly if a new Ghostbusters comes out I want funny people involved, male or female.
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>>71049938
That fucking awful music.
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>>71049938
>publishing cover after cover after cover of women in provocative poses
This is probably my favorite point of this video.
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>>71049344
Someone light the Rule 34 signal

This bitch nigga needs nudes of his babby
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>>71049344
What a complete nunce
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>>71049985
Storywise that was a fine development, supporting it just cause race is stupid though. People support that stuff cause they think they are being the saviour of womankind, really though we know any sequel like that will be crap. They'd have gone mad for the robocop reboot if it was a woman
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>>71050046
>I want funny people involved
Then you will not be seeing the girlbusters, because jesus christ did they scrape the bottom of the barrel
Nothing but hambeast SNL rejects
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>>71050028
Remember the time Lil B rapped over the Dilbert 3 song?

I didn't know what based was until I heard that masterpiece, and now my eyes have been opened by the Based One
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>>71049977
did we trigger you anon?
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>>71049783
The male Ghostbusters movie was announced as a smaller part of a larger announcement about the creation of an overall Ghostbusters universe.

This would be akin to if Marvel had announced "Captain Marvel", then announced the rest of Phase Three, but everybody only focused on "Black Panther".
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>>71049894
Good. I don't want that bullshit there's enough of it in comics as it is and it'll only help to vilify anyone who doesn't like a ton of the bullshit changes going on already
>>71049899
I think that's literally what's happening, blogs have been trying to push for Comicgate for a bit, they tried it with Whor with the Batgirl cover, it never actually catches on but it's obvious they want a new gamergate and they want to be ontop when it breaks.
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>>71050123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzkCdBArO7o

dehumanize yourself and face to based god
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>>71050156
Comicgate never takes off as no one really cares that much. unfortunately that means we are stuck in a cycle of shit
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>>71050147
>overall Ghostbusters universe.
hollywood pls stop
you keep molesting me
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>>71050066
GOTTA GET A GRIP
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>>71050046
Well then you're shit out of luck with the Ghostbusterettes, because Wiig is the only decent member of that cast. Melissa McCarthy's only jokes are about how fat and disgusting she is, and Leslie Jones is just the stereotypical loud angry black woman whose only jokes are "HAHA WHITE PEOPLE ARE CRAZY FO REAL". Jones is also incredibly hideous, I refuse to believe that in all of America they could not find a funny black woman who actually looks like a human being.
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>>71050147
>GhostBusters Cinematic Universe

fuck now i need a rapefree room with play doh and cookies
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>>71050232
So it is still happening?
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>>71049686
I can tell this comic is terrible because the writer used repeated 'Noms.'
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>>71050156
We are been vilified anyway, the reality is that without showing support artists are gonna believe that the SJW narrative is the only narrative.
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>>71049662
I would go there for the cookies and to see what it's like. I imagine there's a good chance that someone would want me kicked out for being a man though. Even though I actually was raped.
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>>71048434
I don't like his drawings in a comic book, they're too plastic and his women have sameface, he's way better as a pin-up illustrator, I've also found very childish his take on Superman vs Batman, absolutely not professional, before now his only saving grace in my opinion was the fact that he loves The Goon, but I have to admit that this was pretty based, finally someone who has the ball to fight against these filthy SJWs, I hope that a lot of other artists will follow him in the next months/years. I'm pretty sure that the shitstorm will not end so easily though.
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>>71050210
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>>71050232
I'd fuck Silverman tho'
That sweet hairy jewess pussy
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It looks like most of Twitter is siding with Cho this showing a good number of people are sick of this small but very vocal crowd.
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>>71048748
>>71048748
>>71048434
Based Cho
Fuck Slott, what a shit eating sack of crap.
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>>71050238
>>71050207
Man sounds like ya'll aint ever heard of the Men in Black/Ghost Busters crossover movie.
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>>71050250
Yup.
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I CAN'T BELIEVE Rodriguez would SEXUALIZE Spider-Man like this and JOKE about it while he does it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>71049662
I'd go there to hit on the girls
No space is safe from THE INCREDIBLE MAN-MAN
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I love how this highlights the problem was always "muh feelings". They could complain about the Manara cover because yeah, it was poor anatomy and she had a creepy Michael Jackson face. But the same pose with proper anatomy and well done? Still problematic, because the first one made people feel bad!

Feelings are never a good reason to not do something, because that road has no off ramp.
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>>71050276
What's Cho's beef with Superman?
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>>71050304
Bring the play-doh
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>>71050274
Realtalk: How people treat male rape victims is fucking shameful.
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>>71050092
When two out of four female Ghostbusters use shouting and screaming as their comedy crutch and the others are in it because the director made Bridesmaids which they were in as well then yeah I have no fucking hope for the fucking thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBymT8nmmT0
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>>71050304
Wasn't it MiB/Jump Street crossover?
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>>71050202
No, FORTUNATELY. "comicgate" would ruin everything. These SJWs need the narrative of misogynist white male manchildren hating on women. The current situation isn't giving them that at all. Frank Cho is married, has a daughter and is a professional artist who is simply having fun and exercising his right of artistic expression and that drives them mad. If Comicgate became a thing, it would ruin everything. We don't need movements that can easily be discredited, just like GG was. We need INDIVIDUALS standing up to these crazy fucks.
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>>71050328
He cries so he's not a real man, apparently.

Its lame but whatever.
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>>71050320
>AY YO GURL
>U WAN ME TO TRIGGER U?
>TRIGGER UR ORGASM THAT IS WHATSUP
Then you'd make a penis out of play-doh and moonwalk away
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>>71049176
>gamergate
But... It has nothing to do with gamer gate, games or vidya "journalism". What?
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>>71050319
>Koran Spiderman
Spiderman is too haram to be muslim.
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>>71050357
Women are literally incapable of comedy. We all know this. Hell women know this.
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>>71050328
He hates the boy scout thing, I believe he drew a short TDKR homage where Batman beat the shit out of Superman and called him a pussy.
>>71050288
Silverman's not in the movie.
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>>71048751
I feel the same way.

Goddamn I'm so glad Cho has the sense not to bend over for these assholes.
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Has anyone on twitter called him an evil white man yet

>>71050288

She was okay but she's old hat by now. And that voice.
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>>71050387
Gamergate's a buzzword for "evil mens." now, because of what >>71050363 said, it gave people a common enemy and created a brand that diluted what the gamergaters were trying to do under an endless torrent of actual misogyny, threats and shitposting.
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>>71050366
What? That makes no sense! Does he think fucking Kenshiro is not a man? Is he trying to say that he never ever cried because he's such a big manly man- Wait, hasn't Batman cried multiple times?
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>>71050387
GG do this thing where they invade other tags for support, it's sad really
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>>71050391

I think we all know Pete is a secret Jew I can't believe Rodriguez the #antisemite is robbing him of his ethnic identity and replacing it with that of one of his oppressors
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>>71050387

Basically everything is tied to GG now because GG is now the big bad evil boogeyman out to turn every piece of nerd media back into a misogynistic man club. No I'm not kidding you, they seriously believe that.
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>>71049344
>Go Spider-Gwen and thwip to the extreme!
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>>71048434
Wait so is Frank Cho working on Spider-Gwen?
I might buy it if he is
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>>71050434
>Wait, hasn't Batman cried multiple times?
Almost as much as Vision
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>>71050255
Fine support Cho, just don't try to make some kind of faggy hashtag especially one that sounds just like "Gamergate" even though yes I know it's really just a trend of adding -gate to a noun after the watergate scandal.
>>71050325
To be fair no one complained about the original Spider-woman one, they're bitching about this one because she's a teenager and it's making fun of the other nontroversy however it neglects she's legal and it's fanart.
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>>71050434
idk man I'm not his therapist, I'm just saying what I heard. Creative types are opinionated, which means sometimes they have opinions you disagree with.
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>>71050387
Gamergate has become synonymous with anything that could in any way be interpreted as sexist or anyone who dares to disagree with a feminist or a woman on the internet.
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>>71050457
Nah he just drew on a blank cover for fun
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>>71050394
Not even remotely true, but this movie will probably be garbage, yeah.
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>>71048748
>Blocking people on twitter
>Not being based Kamiya
>mfw
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>>71050478
>Not even remotely true
If you can name ten genuinely funny women, I will be shocked
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>>71050447
Wait so was Gamergate involved in revealing that Chris Sims bullied Valerie D'Orazio or not?
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>>71050479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtFN8G0NN4M
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>>71050394
idk I like plenty of female comedians. Chelsea Peretti is hilarious.
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>>71050464
>she's a teenager

Uh
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>>71050490
Humor is very subjective so any list I make would just get a
>they're not funny
response
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>>71050156
I followed Gamergate most of the time and it went much better than I expected, but it's good to know you are not dumb. Marvel would love to get some big kneejerk reaction out of you to have their own x-gate they could parade through the media.
>>71050363
Exactly this.
Want to make a statement? Don't start a twitter hashtag. Dust off your wacom instead.
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>>71049436
Well, no, just like they have never heard of Manara before the cover a year ago. They probably never heard of Spider-Woman either and didn't realize even she has nothing to do with Spider-Man besides the name.

You're not expecting them to actually know anything about comics, do you? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even recognize Moebius or Spiegelman.
>>
Who cares
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>>71050509
Well, she is. She's 18-19 which is still technically "teenager."
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>>71050492
I don't think anyone wants to touch that situation because they're just expecting the CA crew to cannibalize themselves
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If you all want some keks check out the Reddit response on /r/comicbooks. There are people actually offended by these covers but also people calling them out on their bullshit. I never knew Reddit was this divisive on shit like this.
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>>71050232
I think McKinnon's all right. I mean, she's not great, but she's not nearly as bad as McCarthy and Jones.
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>>71050553
So those scenes in the bar have her underage drinking?!?!?!?!?!!
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>>71050337
>You were raped?? What fucking bullshit you're a man don't all men love sex??
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>>71050490
There's a lot of British female comedians that I like, but it seems like the only jokes American women know to make are about their vaginas
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>>71050325
>poor anatomy
>expecting normal anatomically correct poses from a super flexible spider powers having woman

These arguments were always retarded. Manara absolutely nailed the creepy spider human factor Jessica is suppose to have.
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>>71050553
No dude. Once you hit 18 you're considered an adult in NY.
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>>71049741
>Don't worry, mens. We'll make sure you get your all-male Ghostbusters. And someday, when we get a Wonder Woman movie, well do Wonder Man too

Fuck I wish, Simon is a cool guy.
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>>71050387
GG is branching out and becoming the protector of art in general, check out sadpuppies and the hugo awards issue.
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>>71050528
Storytime?

>>71050541
They thought Liefeld had influenced Manara. Frankly that should says everything they know about the business
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>>71050528
Not whorey enough
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>>71050528
>banana vagina
>virgin confirmed
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>>71050587
Makes sense, given Americans are retarded subhumans who thought that Obama is smart enough to rule over them.
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>>71049662
There's just something about the term "rape survivor" that grinds my gears. I mean, rape is horrible, but "survivor" sounds a bit extreme.
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>>71048434
Whiny bitches BTFO.
Based Cho.
Based God.
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>>71050274

>I imagine there's a good chance that someone would want me kicked out for being a man though
>Even though I actually was raped

So, you just put on your best falsetto, act stereotypically gay/trans, and throw a huge whinging bitchfit when someone tries to do/say/make you do anything you don't like. And when they question why you look like a regular straight college guy, get all kinds of faux-offended and screech that you're a poor MtF tranny who can't afford women's clothing or professionally-conducted dick mutilation.

Even if you get caught, all you'll do is bring to light the sheer stupidity of safe spaces and their advocates for sensible people to see and laugh at.

Really, these people are the biggest bunch of easily-fooled retards to grace planet Earth in the last 15 years. They'd actually believe that shit if you tried it, or would at least go along with it out of fear of the social consequences if they incorrectly called you out. They're a goldmine of stupidity and blind faith, just waiting to be exploited by anyone who understands how to properly manipulate their tiny, tunnel-vision-afflicted minds.
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>>71050582
She wasn't drinking, they refused to serve her.
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>>71050553
You are considered an adult with 18 in most countries.
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>>71050565
>NICEFEDORABRO
Wow. Also the majority of the posts in that thread are siding with Cho...
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>>71048848
You are as braindead as the people hating on Cho.
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>>71048434
>>Now, I’m getting bombarded by various bloggers asking for an interview addressing this “scandal”. Instead of me wasting my breath and precious time over this non-issue replying to all the interviewers, I’ve drawn another cover sketch in response which will, hopefully, answer all the questions.

Why is Frank Cho so perfect?
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>>71048434

I don't know about you /co/, but I want to see the reaction to Based Cho drawing one featuring Kamala.
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>>71050645
>They're a goldmine of stupidity and blind faith, just waiting to be exploited by anyone who understands how to properly manipulate their tiny, tunnel-vision-afflicted minds.
Fuck that, just walk in with a bunch of your bros and claim it as a man-cave
Watch them have a complete meltdown because their space was not safe enough
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>>71050604
>They thought Liefeld had influenced Manara
Fucking really.
Can these people not do a fucking google search?
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>>71049452
Is it? Aside from the hood tying it all together, I don't find it particularly exceptional.
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>>71049709
Careful now, you wouldn't want to run into Robbi. That's one of his kids you're talking about. >>71049344
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>>71050604
>They thought Liefeld had influenced Manara. Frankly that should says everything they know about the business

To be fair it was one person saying that on Twitter. And then Liefeld himself came in to correct. The original tweet got deleted but Liefeld copied it into his tweet when he responded.
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>>71050655
Looks to me like they're cutting her off for already being too drunk. Although I'll admit to only seeing that page.
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>>71050664
>not sucking his dick while hanging upside down from a web
Lame.
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>>71050705
>Can these people not do a fucking google search?
Google mansplains too much. They can't handle it. Maybe if someone made a search engine for them called Googlette
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>>71050715
No one cared about Spider-Gwen until she put on the costume.
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>>71050626
hey thanks for the austerity scam europe i can't wait until your economy collapses again and you throw a world war causing tantrum like you do every fucking century.
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>>71050691
Careful, we don't want him murdered.
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Next: Cho draws Spider-Mohammed.
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>>71050723
She got a concussion from landing in garbage, which made her act very punchdrunk.
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>>71050387
Gamergate is just code for misogynists/bigots/nazis/ISIS/MRAs/republicans/men and so on

>>71050363
>Frank Cho is married, has a daughter and is a professional artist who is simply having fun and exercising his right of artistic expression
None of that will defend him when push comes to shove. Not that I think it will though.

Something I want to say is is that there is no such thing as "a gamergate happening" because it's all just online noise created by series of controversial events such as these, batgirl, spiderwoman, etc. So it's essentially already happening (and has for a while), and also isn't at the same time because it's all so pointless. If anything, these people want it to explode much more badly because of that narrative they want to sell. Dumb anons shitposting about "SJWs killing comics" are just doing it for free, but some SJWs ranting about white male sexists prove to gain a lot of money from those clicks.

But I wouldn't worry too much about it. After a number of these events happening seemingly week after week after week after week, I hope creators are starting to learn to ignore certain types of people, and do what Cho did or even just totally block them out.
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>>71050319
what is Robbie rambling on exactly?
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>>71050655
She just woke up after being passed out in the bar. She was old enough to get in there and the black kid was old enough to get there and they are the same age. She's also dressed like a homeless person.
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>>71050764

Very true Anon, What was I thinking.
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>>71049774

>tying Wing Zero to goober gate posting

Why?
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>>71050464
>To be fair no one complained about the original Spider-woman one

What
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>>71050622
Not for long.
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>>71050601
NO
NO NO NO
NO
NOPE
NOPE
NO
NOT HAPPENING
NOT TODAY
NOT EVER
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>>71050721
It's more of a comment on them in general, just like the Joker is an anti-hero one
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>>71050464
>>71048434
The pose isn't even the same. The right leg should be extending down the side of the building. CHO your drawings are slightly different, this doesn't really bother me at all. My level of caring hasn't moved one BIT. I just wanted to post in this THREAD for some REASON. Exclamation!
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the spider-gwen costume is awesome in porn

didn't know i had a hoodie fetish, thanks /co/mrades
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>>71050691
A lot of these people are saying there would be outrage and heads would roll if Kamala were sexualized. I don't think these people have ever been on the internet. Plus her female bff is way hotter
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>>71049662
Replace "scary ideas" with "heresy" and "troubling" and "triggering" with "ruinous" and "corrupting" and you'll see that these people are just 60 multimeltas away from desolating everything.
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>>71050759
That was is just awful. How can you suck a dick with your mask on?
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>>71050464
>they're bitching about this one because she's a teenager
Her first issue had her in a bar. She's at least 21 because Marvel ain't going to glamorize underage drinking.
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>>71050819
>Joker is an anti-hero one
There aren't people who actually believe that right?
I mean fuck it's not like Joker has some sort of cause he's fighting for he's just killing people for shits and giggles.
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>>71049283
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>>71050565
You can see from the -2 that people think the poster is stupid as shit. Also, reddit has a hundred subreddits worse than /pol/.
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>>71050717
Wait, so he inserted his own daughter as a superhero character and therefore he feels protective of her image?
So when he inevitably sees some r34 pics of Spider-Gwen, he's going to scream leaked nudes?
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>>71049628
People should speak up, and mock them.
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>>71050691
He wouldn't make Kamala's delicious petite body any justice though.
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>>71050790
Makes her old enough to enter a bar, but not old enough to drink. She didn't even have her wallet on her, she's wearing clothes she found in the garbage.
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>>71050863

Yes, people actually said he was an anti-hero and so artists shouldn't depict him doing bad things or else the audience will want to copy him because he's so cool.

>>71050586
>rape is power + sexual abuse, and since men have all the power in society, they cannot be raped

I also remember reading a "Gay sex is misogynistic" diatribe before.
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>>71050781
so far we have:
>Spider-woman ass by manara
>Batgirl-Joker variant cover
>spider-gwen fanart

those are the things that have annoyed sjws
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>>71049662
This has got to be a fake article.
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Asian dudes holding it down once again.
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>>71050932
FireRemender
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>>71050891
>Kamiya only follows one person on twitter. A JAV actress
The hero we need
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>>71048562

This.
Up til now I've only adored his art, since its pretty fucking good.

But now, now that he showed how based he truly is, i NEED a Cho book in my shelf.
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>>71050939
It's an editorial, thus an opinion piece. It's still real though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-hiding-from-scary-ideas.html?_r=0
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>>71050457
Nope he made a sketch cover on a blank variant.
>>71050509
I honestly don't know she's atleast 17, probably over 18 but comics have this thing of making it so it's impossible to actually know anyone's age and they refuse to actually give them an age.
>>71050815
I mean the original Frank Cho parody.
>>71050850
She was getting refused service and it didn't look many glamorous.

Someone needs to ask Robbi how he feels about his Baby Daddy pimping out their daughter.
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>>71050691
no
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>>71050932

Does illustrated girls on shirts count as comics? And then of course there's all the stuff in other mediums

I think what we have to take away from all this is that the vast majority hate these people, every fallout from these events turn against them. Or just look at the ratings for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB6TiRJNI-Q

So there's really no need to panic.
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>>71050930
>>rape is power + sexual abuse, and since men have all the power in society, they cannot be raped
>I also remember reading a "Gay sex is misogynistic" diatribe before.
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>>71050645
I could probably pull it off decently since for five years everyone who knew me thought I was gay. I wouldn't bother doing it though.
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>>71050989
Oh shit is that Frank Cho's work?
I fucking love that art and could never find out the artist
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>>71050949
i was going to add the things that have made them happy and probably annoyed manchildren on /co/
>batgirl redesign
>spiderwoman redesign
>femThor
>carol danver's existance
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>>71048748
>we decided we have the moral high ground because reasons and now we want people arrested for posting on the internet in case snowflakes get offended
fuck off you hack.
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>>71051027
That's Dean Yeagle.
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Thank you based Cho
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>>71049977
How many times was the word "the" used before you used it, you unoriginal faggot?
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>>71049741
I really hope Marvel introduces Wonder Man to the MCU soon
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>>71048434

He should have combined the spider-woman pose with the joker-and-crying-batgirl cover. Now *that* would cause a shitstorm.

Also, bravo to Cho for telling folks to fuck off.
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>>71051027
No that's Dean Yeagle an old pin up artist.
Big fan of blonde bimbos.
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>>71049922
Would these same women had been excited if an "all-female" version never existed in the first place and we instead got Ghostbusters 3?
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>>71051046
>Dean Yeagle
Thanks homie
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>>71049078
Jesus Christ these people, it makes you wonder how these reactionary retards actually get anything done in life.
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>>71051000

Oh, found it. Pretty sure it's satire though, but it's funny.

>>71050989

17 is borderline but it depends on how you define adulthood. Age of consent, drinking age, driving age, it all depends on which one we're using. Or maybe it's all of them?
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>>71051061
based is a stupid nigger slang though
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>>71050997
The worst part is that the shirt was a hand made present made by his female friend.
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>>71050891
The "shes's ugly" one is fake.
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>>71048748
I'm pretty sure Quinn used to take part in a board on Something Awful that doxxed people ridiculously fucking hard for fun and had at least one confirmed suicide

She also spread a lot of terrible rumors about the photographer who did her nude pics even though Quinn was incredibly inconsiderate to her throughout the whole thing

Honestly, take away any connections to video games and Quinn probably does deserve what she got
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>>71049361
chris confirmed for a white knight faggot. How many rescued maidens do you think he's plowed this week?
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>>71051093

She just has internalized misogyny, then. Or maybe a GGer in disguise!
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>>71051087
Well I'm stealing it. I'm taking it back for the White Man to make up for all the shit they've stolen from us.
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>>71051093
It's a shit shirt, though. Only a fool with no social skills would wear it for an important interview.
I guess The Bazinga Theory isn't as farfetched as I think it was.
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Blessed Frank Cho, hallowed by thy name.

This was the correct response.
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>>71051081
Well, in New York she's old enough to do everything except drink or be in porn.
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>>71049132
Like that other Anon said, the crowd asking for a debate don't want one; they want a public self-flailing.

They want Cho to apologise for his privlige, his wang and for drawing this 'demeaning' art, any attempts for him sticking up for himself will be met with further hostility so there's little point.
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>>71051135
So you're blaming him for what he's wearing, right?
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>>71051081

That's the other one I was looking for. In before someone mentions "cherrypicking" on Tumblr.
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>>71049662

Man oh man.
Back in the day you'd call this being a retard.
Now it's encouraged.

Whatever happened to being an adult? You know, the one where you have to deal with different opinions and fighting for yours? Now its' LITERALLY a "HAHA I CANT HEAR YOU NANANA I'LL GO TO MY SAFE SPACE SHITLORD" mentality.

You know what's even more fucked up? It's because of comments. On the internet. By people you'll never see.
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>>71051095
Aw, really? That was the best part.
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>>71049344
>Take an established character
>Throw a costume and super powers on her from ANOTHER established character
>muh baby, muh creation, muh child

Fucking really
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>>71051157
>They want Cho to apologise for his privlige, his wang and for drawing this 'demeaning' art,

It's hilarious how Cameron Stewart tried to appeal to these people and then got eaten up by them.
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>>71049344
>I view spider-gwen as one of my kids
>making threats over the internet but with completely flaccid threats
Guys my autism reader just overloaded
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>>71049283
>mckelvie
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>>71051158
I'd blame him in the same way I'd blame a bitch for coming in to an office-job interview dressed like a stripper.

Dress for the fucking occasion.
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>>71049322
>Why not try to discuss it with each other, especially with an opportunity like being asked for an interview? Go on it and defend yourself!

Uh no, no matter what Cho says they will hate him for it.

He already said what he had to say and he'll ignore everyone and Marvel will still employ him no matter how much everyone whines about it.
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>>71048748
>you're on mute

every fucking time
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>>71051206
>It's hilarious how Cameron Stewart tried to appeal to these people and then got eaten up by them.
You never, NEVER apologise to these people. No matter what you say it's never going to be enough.
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>>71051225

Well, that wasn't their argument for why the shirt was bad.

Also, he's also covered in tattoos, would you ask him to remove them for being unprofessional?
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>>71051225
Stop victimblaming, anon. It's hurtful.
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>>71051206
Are are are these people serious?
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>>71051225
He didn't go to the interview, the interview came to his office, which happened to be mission control for landing a probe on a fucking comet
They likely do not have a strictly enforced dress code there because they have much bigger things to occupy their time
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>>71051158
Yes. Why shouldn't I?
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At least he didn't show boobs.
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>>71049193
>Impotent hysterics
I'm stealin that.
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>>71050565
Don't be fooled, reddit is a complete shithole. You can't even talk about the Ellen Pao and her hiring practice without getting raped by SRS and Ghazi. At least on this site we can shit on moot.
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>>71051278
>we can shit on moot.
RIP Mootykins.
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>>71051253
>remove them

No, just be a grown-up and wear a buttoned shirt to your interview. Coincidentally that would also cover up the tattoos neatly. You can air them once you're not in a formal situation any more.
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>>71051267
It's like the DELETE THIS gmod video in text format
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>>71049662
>we created a safe space to hide against the possibility of someone question rape culture
>YOU SAID THE WORDS
>oh fuck, quick think of something else to talk about...uh so what are you going to do after the talk is over
>THE TALK IS WHAT'S TRIGGERING ME
>Hey guys, what's with all the yelling? you guys need to stop violating my earspace
>SHE SAID VIOLATE
>FUCK!
>YOU SAID FUCK
>M-M-M-MUH TRIGGERS
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo
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>>71051320
See
>>71051261
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>>71051278
On who?
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>>71051267

What the fuck is wrong with these people? They're acting like Lionhead just posted some kitten decapitation videos or something.
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>>71051135
>Only a fool with no social skills would wear it for an important interview

While I agree with that, we're not the ones landing satellites into comets, are we?
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>>71051160
i can never stop laughing about this every time i see it
like they basically defended mayo as a gender
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Remember when a couple years back Ultron was a naked chick and Frank drew....him?

No one gave a shit.
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>>71051267
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>>71051206
>When the fuck did Tumblr become this

I wish I had that picture that said "Tumblr: going from 'be yourself' to 'how dare you be yourself' in four years" but I can't find it
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>>71050363
Agree 100%.
Especially with such a shitty, uncreative name.
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>>71051217
Oh emptyhero. I love you you fucking asshole.
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>>71051217
does he work in one of the big 2?
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>>71051370
>This won't happen in Age of Ultron

Why even live.
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>>71049198
>I know Rodriguez said some shit about Gwen being his daughter or whatever,

Which is fairly ridiculous, since we all know /co/ created Spider-Gwen years ago.
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>>71051193
It's legitimately worrying
I didn't finish college THAT long ago, but I never noticed anything even NEAR this level of insanity in what's supposed to be institutions for higher learning
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>>71050433
>threats
Confirmed for not knowing shit. The only actual threats have come from third-party trolls like /baph/ watching the world burn, or otherwise bullshit. Case in point. http://youtu.be/AlmuKqKAIb4

Good luck ever getting the attentionwhores to admit it though. GG discovered that one of the assholes Sarkeesian was so terrified of was a journo falseflagging from an island somewhere. She, of course, refused to ask him to be reprimanded, or even acknowledge this at all.

Then you have the songs who honestly think any talk of Quinn's 'private life' is harassment on principle, even when it involves her professional career. Fucking hypocrites.
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>>71051393
He did the art on Gillen Young Avengers. Don't know if he's done any Big 2 art since then
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>>71051335
>landmark day for humanity
>press might even show up
>"hmmm, should I slum it today by going casual, or dress for the occasion? Choices, choices..."

There shouldn't have to be an enforced dress code. Because grown men and women should be able to dress for the occasion. Don't wear a suit on the beach, and don't wear shorts and a t-shirt to church.
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>>71050447
Remember that time they blamed GG on Sucker Punch flopping?
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My Face When This Event Occured

C H O
H
O
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>>71051457
>and don't wear shorts and a t-shirt to church.

Hey fuck you.
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>>71051438
>shits
>songs

Screw you too Kindle.
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>>71051457
>actually trying to dress-code scientific achievement
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>>71051457
>We should be mature and know how to dress for the occasion
>Yes, adults should be mature
>Now lets all shit our pants and focus on how someone is dressed...yes...mature.
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>>71051421
I did but that's because SJWs freaks tried to rope me into their insanity because i'm brown.
I've been in an argument with a literal neo-nazi that didn't feel as insulting as dealing with these people.
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>>71049283
Christ dude. Don't hide behind women to make your whiney twitter posts.
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>>71051217
As a brown person, this is the best thing I've seen all week and I'm going to remember it for all the smug self-satisfied white liberals on my campus.
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>>71048434
B A S E D
A S E D
S E D
E D
D
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BASED CHO
BASED STAN

CAN'T SLOW THE CHO
CAN'T FLIM-FLAM THE STAN MAN

eat shit rodriguez, you didn't "create" gwen. you took an existing character and rule 63'd her aka the most fan-fiction move ever
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>>71051531
HAHAHA
>Why doesn't the actual creator of a character I painted over respect me hurrff
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>>71051496
Clothing is a huge part of human society, faggot. Without clothes signifying rank and disposition we'd just be a bunch of animals wearing pelts for warmth and fighting for dominance.
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>>71051531
GONNA NEED MORE INFO ON THIS BRUH. THE FUCK DOES THIS MEAN.
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>>71048434
Frank Based Fucking CHO!
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>>71051531

What does this mean?

Robbi had a signature on a cover and Stan signed over it?
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>>71051415
Shit, I forgot all about that. Got a link to the threads in the archive?
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>>71051511
aw man, I was planning to do that
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>>71051578
I think he's pissed that Stan signed a comic that had his name on it.
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>>71051567
>Without clothes signifying rank and disposition we'd just be a bunch of animals wearing pelts for warmth and fighting for dominance.

A monkey in a suit is still a monkey, though
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>>71051578
Look at any comic cover you have on hand. Usually the artist's signature is worked into the art somewhere.
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>>71051531
>I created an original character and now she is my child
>I know shes a character that already exist but this ones from a different dimension!
>Oh what does she do? Basically everything every other spider-person can do.
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>>71051457
>yeah you landed a probe on a comet, but fuck you for dressing casual
Sounds like someone isn't even a fraction as accomplished as that engineer and has to find petty reasons to drag him down to his level to validate his ordinary failure life.
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>>71051531
I'm not sure you know what rule 63 is, but otherwise I agree. Fuck Rodriguez
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>>71050997
i have one for this too
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>>71051578
yup

i'd like to think it's stan's personal fuck you to anybody trying to take credit for his own creation.

mentally, stan is still razor sharp, if you watch his interviews. we all know his "oh i'm just a self-deprecating old fogy" is an act
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>>71051395
Nude metallic Pepper FINAL FORM!
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>>71051359
The man might be a genius but he has no self-awareness. Again, Bazinga Theory
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>>71051578
YEP! Basically "My signature is the only one that matters so who cares about that one" and Stans right too. His signature is infinity worth more than Robbi.
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>>71050891

>japanese phil fish

When he makes a game that isn't a shitty buttonmasher call me. Maybe then I'll take his opinion seriously.
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>>71051567
>Without clothes signifying rank and disposition
Ironic considering that's a barbaric way to look at things.
Instead of judging someone on how they act, their personality or their accomplishments, we'll focus on if they wear a t-shirt or a suit and tie.

That's as shallow and brain dead as it can get
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>>71051567
Not for a long time. Cheap fabrics changed sll this. As this picture makes obvious, clothes are no longer a reliable metric of anything.
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>>71051531
You're a no name artist right now and you're complaining about Cho who's been around forever and even worse Stan Lee?
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>>71049344
Just like that guy who made Elizabeth for Bioshock
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>>71051642
>I'm not sure you know what rule 63 is,

Hello, welcome to the Internet.
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>>71051346
The CEO of Reddit. She's pretty awful, has shit hiring practices, is a Feminazi and tied up with shit that'd make Zoe Quinn blush.
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>>71051370
because all these tumblrkids and snowflake brats always need something to do. Something to try and put down to make themselves feel superior. There's always a crusade and you win popularity with your fake online friends by joining in with it. These people don't even fucking read comics. They're all here because comics are the on topic issues with these idiots. Tumblr doesn't give a shit about real injustice. None of them want to travel to third world countries and fight female infanticide or liberate human trafficked eastern European prostitutes. They don't fight a crusade for justice by raising awareness of real issues, they just get mad at fucking comics books because it's easy to whine and piss and moan about comic books. It's not like comic books are going to have you arrested for protesting or put you in danger. It's ironic they see the female image being portrayed in comics as such a threat, since in comparison with REAL issues, it doesn't even come close to affecting someones life. All we can hope for is, that a time will come when they give up on our thing, get bored and go ruin something else. The little shits.
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>>71048434
Fucking Based Cho just draws women how he wants and gives no fucks.
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>>71051612
It's a monkey capable of telling that the other monkey has more money, and thus power and education, just from what he's wearing. It also shows the monkey whether they might be from corresponding social circles, or enemies, and thus how he should ready himself before they greet eachother.
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>>71051656
He's been playing us all for a fool...
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>>71051635
Exactly. The guy landed a probe on a comet, he can dress however the fuck he wants.
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>>71051531
OH SHIT
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>>71051642
but that non is right

spider-gwen is just a female version of spider-man. sure it's gwen and not peter, but she is the primary spider-person of her universe. it's the same fucking shit. rodriguez is a shit
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>>71051652
Smegma can be hit or miss but that's a bullseye
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>>71051652
Fucking EmptyHero is an internet hero

King of all Twitter trolls
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>>71051656
The man is a fucking master of the backhanded compliment.
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>>71051656
He is revolver ocelot after all
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>>71051607
why would anybody be pissed if STAN LEE signed their cover
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>>71049662
FUCKING COLLEGE?
Yall aint ready for life
At all
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>>71051692
Continue
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>>71048434
Cho is doing god's work here.
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>>71051778
He really is. Everyone should watch his interview with Bob Kane, it's wonderful. Plus there's the OVERKILL video with Liefeld.
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>>71051795
Stan signed it over Robbie's name. Robbie thinks he is more important than Stan Lee.
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>>71050457
holy fuck someone else watched devil is a part timer?
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>>71049750
>Guys feel nothing when they get their nipples touched but girls will enjoy it.

It might not be as sexual as it is with women, but men's nipples are pretty damn sensitive, too.
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>>71051799
So true. I know the popular message is "in the real world, nobody cares", but in all honesty nobody gives a shit.
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>>71051656
everyone realizes that there is no real reason for his other hand to be up there, right?

>oh oh this old hand's a little shaky let's just get this up here and...Yea, that's better.
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>>71050464
It's going to happen. It may not be "ComicGate" but we'll have to make our stand somewhere or we won't have any comics left.
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>>71049750
My nipples are pretty sensitive, bro.
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>>71048434
real question though
c-can he draw nightwing in this pose
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>>71051531
i hope Stan shows up at this guys house and signs his face

and then steals his lifeforce
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>>71051531
STAN THE FUCKIN MAN LEE
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>>71050645
>free cookies
>college students
>free

It wont last a fucking week
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>>71051809
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/reddit-ceo-ellen-pao-bans-salary-negotiations/
>men genuinely negotiate better and harder for strategies
>instead of encouraging women to negotiate harder, lets just ban negotiating because m-m-muh patriarchy

I bet she hates hiring men. I bet she fucking loathes it when some dude comes in with exactly what she needs with a great resume and she has to get off of her high horse and hire the guy because women just can't step it up in tech.
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>>71051881
>My nipples are pretty sensitive

Do they need trigger warnings?
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>>71051267
jesus christ are we not allowed to like anything about the female body anymore without being labeled sexist?
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>>71051267
>Just to be clear we don't descrimate...
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>>71051267
Oh shit, the first time I read that I didn't even realise it was the studio that made Fable.

How the fuck are these people surprised? That sign is exactly what I'd expect to find in the Fable world, the ass-cleavage thing looks like an outfit from a Fable game, and the type of humour is spot-on.
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>>71051112
Fucking Hate Something Awful, unless you're in their gross inner circle, they act like utter dicks. Except when you call them out for it they always pull the "but this is something awful.com not something nice.com.
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>>71051700
As long as someone is willing to bend to their whim on an issue, they'll never stop.

There's no appeasing these feminists - they'll keep pushing until people give to their outlandish standards, and even then it'll never be enough.

These people are a fucking plague.
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>>71051873
>we won't have any comics left

There will always be comics you dingus, nobody wants to buy ugly shit written/drawn by sjw hacks (see Unbeatable Squirrel Girl sales.)
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>>71051907
*salaries
ah fuck you spell check
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>>71051942
Will they actually let Squirrel Girl lose her ongoing, or will they just keep renumbering it like Captain Marvel
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>>71051928
The ass-cleavage is literally concept art from a prostitute in the game. They just added in the little red heart.
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Why are SJWs ok with

>close up pictures of assholes as "art"
>dropping eggshels with paint inside it, from a vagina, to a canvas, art?

but sexy women aren't and just sexist?
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>>71050781
>None of that will defend him when push comes to shove.

The best defence against SJW's is not giving a fuck. If you back down and apologise they smell blood in the water and attack harder than before. If you try to explain yourself they sense weakness and use every explanation as proof of how misogynistic/racist/homophobic you are.

If you don't give a fuck then they can do nothing to you.

The one artform which has been immune to SJW's so far is hip-hop , everytime the SJW's criticize them they just tell the SJW's to fuck themselves.

(This only applies to people who are also financially immune, SJW's will dox you and call your employer trying to get you fired if they can).
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>>71051977
Does unbearable squirrel whale even sell?
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>>71049344
Je Suis Cho. Threatrning physical violence over a cartoon, how very extremist..
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>>71052006
>hip-hop
>artform
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>>71051656
Hang on. Does Stan Lee actually have a comb-over that starts at the front? Because that's pretty unusual, I feel.
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>you didn't "create" gwen. you took an existing character and rule 63'd her aka the most fan-fiction move ever

He only created a costume though. The concept of a Spider-Female has been around since 1977.

Someone should let him know that.
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>>71052006
>implying SJWs even try to criticize hip-hop

they're too scared to because they're afraid of being seen as racist so they wait for a chance to regurgitate whatever popular female rapper not named Iggy Azalea said
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>>71051531
did stan just fucking STEAMROLL HIM?
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>>71052091
Meant for >>71051531
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>>71052099
>they're too scared to because they're afraid of being seen as racist

This. They'll go after white hip hop artists though.
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>>71049774
>#comicgate

Fuck off.
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>>71052054
Go to bed, old man.
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>>71052091
>tintinnabulatin'
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>>71051942
Whor is still selling "well enough" for them.

>>71052046
~25k
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>>71052153
>all that nuclear butthurt when Macklemore won at the Grammys
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>>71051457
>be on camera ince in your life
>have that shirt your designer friend made you
>wear it for promotion because you really like it
>feminists shit all over your designer friend's work, your achievement and you as a person
>because they did not like your shirt
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>>71052153
I've never seen Eminem get criticised like that. Just called a wigger by old people.
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>>71051531
that little shit Rodriquez getting BTFO.
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>>71051692
>>71051907
Your forgetting the part where he husband is apparently accused of running a ponzi scheme, and had to go to court. She also said something about hiring people based on their views.

>Ms. Pao, who said she wants to stay long-term as Reddit’s CEO when a one-year interim period ends, said she has removed salary negotiations from the hiring process because studies show women don’t fare as well as men. She has brought in well-known Silicon Valley diversity consultant Freada Kapor Klein to advise the company. And she has passed on hiring candidates who don’t embrace her priority of building a gender-balanced and multiracial team. “We ask people what they think about diversity, and we did weed people out because of that,” she said.
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>>71051986
Fat girls have the 3 things listed, the last one, not so much
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. How DARE you refer to Cho as "he". Let's keep things non-gender-specific, okay? Using such pronouns can cause real hurt and real harm to marginalized communities...
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>>71052235
Eminem is part of MUH CHILDHOODZ so he gets a free pass

I don't doubt that there aren't tumblrinas calling for him to stop culturally appropriating black people music though
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>>71052246
her investors are probably already have her walking papers ready to go.
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>>71051907
All this means is that experienced, qualified men and women won't apply for the jobs because they will not be rewarded for the experience and work they will bring to the team.

Instead they will have to hire fresh out of college twats without a project to their name, because they wouldn't be able to negotiate a decent salary anywhere else.
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>>71052195
>25k
Really? It doesn't even do tumblr web comic shit well
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>>71052246
>She also said something about hiring people based on their views.
Wait isn't that illegal discrimination?
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>>71050952
>>Kamiya only follows one person on twitter. A JAV actress
I've always respected that he doesn't follow, just talks and has so many followers himself. True alpha behavior
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>>71051870
kek 10/10 master ruseman
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>>71052300
Eminem is more street then most popular rappers these days so fuck them
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>>71052056
Stan Lee is like Wolverine; his hair just doesn't make sense
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>>71048434
what an badass.
I wish more people would give no fucks about the feelings of twitter and tumblr babies.
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>>71051670
>using japanese phil fish
Heres your reply man.
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>>71050989

Are you the one selling that on eBay?
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>>71049132
>I do wish Cho would've actually debated or talked with someone about this
No. Complete dismissal and ridicule is the best way to go about this. In any conversation he would start, he'd just get swarmed by these people and he would never hear the end of it until he grows weary and yields. The best he can do is to just not address what they told him. Letters to the public instead of messages at people. It means they can't really get a conversation going and nobody on their side gets to step into the spotlight because they actually got an open conversation going. They would get a spokesperson in the public eye and someone to rally to.
They way Cho does it here keeps the spotlight on himself and his ridicule and critique of all of these people as joyless people campaigning for irrelevant bullshit.
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>>71052219
>decide to listen to the thrift shop song again
>comments have arguments about Israel

I really must stop punishing myself by glancing down at youtube comments.
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>>71052320
You can't explicitly hire people for thinking something, but you can always tell someone no.
You don't have to justify why you don't hire someone after you had an interview. You can just say you didn't feel they would fit in.
Naturally you can't say you don't hire someone for having any specific belief, unless that happens to be an incentive for a crime by itself.
Like believing that murder is a-okay.
That should be a specific reason for not hiring.
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>>71052189
Monkey screeching and swearing is not music.
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>>71052195
>Whor is still selling "well enough" for them.
She's the Titanic of comics right now.

The ship, not the movie.
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>>71052318
It's selling less than Morbius did. You know, the book that only got nine issues when Marvel had a policy of giving every book at least 12 issues regardless of sales.
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>>71052317
is it any fucking wonder that reddit's site is bugged up the arse, goes down at the smallest surge in page hits and is a lame as balls, lolsorandom, gimme popularity SJW shitfest. It's why every fan sub-reddit is a constant calvalcade of ''look at this stupid cake I made! Gimme karma!' I'll take /co/ at 3am on a slow fucking day, than the so called ''best of'' of any of their comics or cartoons boards any day.

And that's why, my son, we never go there. Except for the public freakout board, because that shit is fucking hilarious.
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>>71052318
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2015/2015-02.html
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>>71052006
>The best defence against SJW's is not giving a fuck.

Nah man, I found calling them racist works the best. If it's those dyed hair women, calling them racist gets them all defensive. If it's balding white dudes racist and sexist works wonders. When you don't give a fuck they'll just continue their shit behind your back, but if you straight up call them a racist they'll stop and make excuses, sometimes they'll flip to your side. Like literally just ending every sentence with racist works wonders.
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>>71049132
that's because you're a miserable little cockbite, tripfag.
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>>71052439
Iron Patriot was supposed to be an ongoing and it was changed to be a mini. All I can remember is that the covers were really good.
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>>71052410
I'm sure someone must've come up with an extension that hides the youtube comment section
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>>71052437
last month hit number 11. I haven't bought it because I'd rather buy star wars, but from what I've seen from the /co/ story times, it's pretty crap.
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>>71052091
that betty brant costume was awful though
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>>71048748

Anyone have the pic where Slott got butt-blasted over a random, shit talking him then muting him before he could respond?
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>>71048434
Is Cho's career over now that everyone hates him?
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>>71052566
No because the overwhelming majority of non-insane male readers and many female readers of comics still enjoy his work
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>>71052550
11 at 70k, it's down from its 150k start but it's still doing better than the adventures of hammerless!Thor
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>>71052457
Hm. Angela is still moving 31k.
For the amount of fucks not given about hat comic, I'm surprised.
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>>71052562
What are the armpit webs even attached to on her arms? There's fucking nothing there!
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>sticky

Really mods?
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>>71052390
No. Just saw it posted last thread.
>>71052392
I don't know, Cho doesn't strike me as a strong debater, I feel like he'd just make a big joke of it and in doing so just piss off everyone rather than educate them on anything.
I mean he pretty much did just that with this picture.


>Thread is now a Sticky
Did something happen?
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> sticky
HA!
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>sticky now
fucking why?
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>>71052566
No one who is actually important hates him.
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>Sticky

THERE'S HOPE, BOYS
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>>71052626
Yes really, about time /co/ got it's shit together
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>>71052566
>using UNBEATABLE SQUIRREL GIRL
>THE SAME ONE THAT SHOWED HER ASS WAS HER TAIL
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>>71052641
funny now democrats complain just as much about boobs

>sticky
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>>71052566
Not even close. At the end of the day SJW pandering comics are only lip service, and Cho has done good work for too long to throw him under the bus. Besides, I'm pretty sure he and Bendis are friends.
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>stickying it now
>just after the thread discussion dies down

a bit late on that mods
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>>71048434
God bless him.
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>>71052566
>now that everyone hates him?

This thread disagrees
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>>71051531
Guess we know who Stan's next life-force victim will be
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WE STICKY NOW!

To be honest the mods probably just didn't want a bunch of new threads made when this one fell off the board.
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>>71052479
>Nah man, I found calling them racist works the best

SJW's count Asians as White now. It's one of their SJW word games which allow them to redefine things like sexism and racism.

As a White Man Frank Cho cannot use racism as a defence because 'racism=prejudice+power' and Whites can never be victims of racism.
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>>71052626
YES

Fuck not caring. Shit needs to be mocked at the very least.
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>>71052620
You notice that and not the moon in front of the clouds?
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>>71052566
>a male character going A-WOOOGA

Wait, what? I read that as him going like "Whoahoooh!, deja vu, this is going to be bad!", in a surprised way, not catcalling. The expression doesn't look like catcalling at all, it looks like he's seen something startling.
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>>71052656
2000% BASED

CONTAINMENT OR CHEMO? YOU DECIDE
WE STICKY NOW
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>>71052707
SJW is poison to Stan's life force though
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>>71052566
hell no, he has been saying for a while he intends to start doing creator owned work as soon as his current marvel contract is up, he will be freaking fine.
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>>71052641
Dammit Cho, you know damn well that it's the libfags that are so butthurt about your work, quit trying to appease them by claiming that republicans are against you.
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>>71052566
>Noelle "comics are sexist because I had to sit next to boobs at Comic-Con" Stevenson and Robbi "1v1 ME CHO" Rodriguez
>everyone
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>>71052758
Not really though? Marvel's been targeting them forever. It just seemed less annoying because there were actual things to complain about back then.
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>>71052744
She also clearly swung out from behind it, so I assumed it was a prop or some Mysterio shit.
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>>71052745
It's a Cho thing, it's definitely cat-calling. WHICH IS A-OKAY
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>>71048434
FRANK CHO = GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>71052707
Stan's lifeforce drain is amount of talent equals how many years Stan'll get.

this guys not even worth the trip.
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>>71052726
>SJW's count Asians as White now.

Wait...wut? Do you have any citations or examples of this?
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>>71051742
If she was Patricia Parker or some shit then it would be Rule63. As it stands it's Gwen Stacy, an existing character, getting super-powers similar to another character.

Rule 63 is a character getting gender-swapped. Not an existing character getting powers similar to a male counterpart.

For it to be rule 63 it would have to be a female Peter Parker or a male Gwen Stacy, not just a female spider-person or else every spider-woman and spider-girl is a rule63 spider-man.
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>>71048434
I'd put good money down on him apologizing within 7 days, Is there a way to take bets on things like this?
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>>71049269
>>71049335
>Joker laughing and batgirl in that pose with a tear in her eye

oh god i'd fucking dieeee
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>>71052745
No, he made the same pose for Spider Woman, too. With Peter going "Nice!" at her ass.
Also it is perfectly fine to applaud the Lord's creation where it presents itself so plentifully.
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>>71052769
That comic was back in like the 90's.
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>>71052566
>Erica "all my characters have down syndrome" Henderson
> awesome
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>>71052806
Anyone successful and who has disposable income HAS to be white. Otherwise it ruins the illusion that people can actually better themselves through work and knowledge.

Don't you know?
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>>71052769
dude thats a liberty meadows comic, its over a decade old.
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>>71052817
>Cho
>apologize
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>>71052566
>Dear Frank Cho, one can draw butts & be awesome, as Erica Henderson shows in Squirrel Girl. You, sir, aren't awesome.

Dear dumb cunts of the world praising poorly drawn booty, either all of it is okay or none of it is. You fucking hypocrites.

Because pic related gave out a "Nuts about that Booty" award for Squirrel Girl while giving Manara shit for that Spider-Woman cover.
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>>71052817
>apologize
You dont give the SJW's a fucking inch.
Let them know by showing that people are still buying his comics, and the people complaining dont buy it and just want to be heard on a compiter screen
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>>71049662
>"I was feeling bombarded by a lot of viewpoints that really go against my dearly and closely held beliefs"

This cant possibly be real
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>>71052900
I agree with that 4th panel tho'. I've seen some guys saying this with the same tone of "when it's white history month" without an ounce of irony
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>>71052900
>Nuts about that Booty
I still can't figure out why that was okay.
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>>71052900
well see anon, it depends on who draws it.
a female drawing another female's ass is not sexist. it's sexy and empowering for a female to recognize that other creatures of the same gender have things on their backsides.

but a man drawing an ass on a female? how dare they!
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>>71052964
Yes it can.

>tfw freedom of expression went from liberal, to conservative, to liberal, and now conservative again in about 50 years
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>>71052900
The irony is palpable.
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posting on a sticky
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>>71049613
He's basically saying "mess with my waifu and I'll end your life-u", they dumb bastard.
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>>71048434
>sticky

Thnx mods, you're good people
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>>71048434
Nice to see backbone. Based Cho.
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>>71052964
Yes, universities can no longer present contradicting viewpoints.
People might be upset when they have to defend their ideas against those of other people.
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>>71048434
BASED
A
S
E
D

The Mary Sue BTFO
ComicsAlliance BTFO
Faggots like David Uzumeri, Jamie McKelive, etc. BTFO
Humorless SJW faggots BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>71052998
>patriarchy-crushing thighs
>they look very floppy in that panel
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>>71052769
Conservatives and Liberals both have different opinions which lead to the same thing.
Conservatives don't want Sexualized women because it'll turn boys into mindless rapists and pressure girls to live up to expectations of being sex objects which have no place in a moral society
Liberals don't want Sexualized women because it'll turn boys into mindless rapists and pressure girls to live up to expectations of being sex objects which have no place in a moral society.
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>>71052981
What does that have to do with the fourth panel? Comic artists in general, regardless of gender aren't celebrated enough.
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BASED
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>>71052726
Everyone who is not black or has really dark skin is white in their eyes.
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>>71051652

Smegma King is a wonderful person and he should feel good about himself.
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>>71052998
>patriarchy crushing thighs
Silly woman, it's spelled C-H-A-I-R.
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>>71052998
Translation: I'm fat and like that this character is potato shaped like me.
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>>71052998
>she thinks chubby-chasers value her for her character, doesn't she?
Also if you're not some kind of racist, you sure as hell can get a followership for your "badonk".
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>Sticky

So it begins.
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>>71049468
Hope this fool's never heard of rule 34.
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>>71048434
We sticky now?
Nice.
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>>71048751
Can't fault someone for having an honest opinion.
Then again, never heard his opinion
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>>71051370
anyone have the edit where she's about to shit on the sentry' wife?
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What happens when these people discover Howard Chaykin?
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>>71053066
Jesus, anon. Learn to understand context.
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>>71052998
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>STICKY
MODS NO DON'T ENCOURAGE THIS SHITPOSTING
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>>71053075
That art style is familiar, who did it?
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>>71049750
>Guys feel nothing when they get their nipples touched
That's not what my Japanese comics say!
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>>71053182
It's easier to have a single thread about this and get it out of our systems that have multiple BASED CHO threads.
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>>71053140
Eyup.
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>>71049662
the idea of rape victims (real ones) looking for help and finding something that looks like a child's playcentre is very funny
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>>71053075
Holy shit that is awesome. How come there hasn't been any tumblr outrage over this one?
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>>71052998
Yes, in the current climate women certainly aren't lauded for their "generous badonk"s.
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>>71053088
Christ that man is a legend.
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>>71052989
>Approved by the new comics code authority
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>>71052927

This. You cannot reason with them. You cannot appease them. All you can do is give them more and more ground until you're standing on fucking oxygen
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>>71049728
>No inhumanly deep and sharp heart-shaped buttocks

I loved that ass though
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>>71053146
>Howard Chaykin
>who?
>google him
Holy shit my sides
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>>71052726
Trust me, the Asian = white thing gets thrown out the window once you start saying shit like "ching chong bing bong want me to build new railroad mr. white man?" and then end it with "Your as racist as they can get" the butthurt gets tasty.
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>>71053215
Someone has to be lead them to the outrage. They don't have any of their own.
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>>71053196
Hentai promised me many things about sex that reality didn't live up to.
Also vaginas don't smell good at all.
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>>71053088
>cliffyb getting BTFO

Most of those are awful, but this one's spot on.
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>>71053194
Otto ghetto.
My fucking hero
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>>71051656
>stan is still razor sharp
of course he is, romanian genes in full action
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>>71049728
>If the original cover had looked more like these, there probably wouldn't have been any outrage whatsover.

Ahaha, so cute when they think like this.
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>>71053246
>>Howard Chaykin
>>who?

Read American Flagg.
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>>71048434
My based hero.
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>>71052884
>>71052927
Please show me one victim of these people that didnt eventually cave, he will bend.... give it time.
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>>71053054
Those people are by no meaningful definition of the word liberal or progressive.
They are, in fact, highly conservative and moralizing. You just switch Jesus for Feminism and it's the same thing.

>>71053215
Because they don't get it.

>>71053219
Well, there is grand booty and there is blubber.

>>71053255
Like fucking women into their wombs would make them like you?
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I love how people are losing their head over this when there are several websites dedicated to draw porn of any comic book character. I could go out of my way and look at Gwen Stacy porn for 3 days straight.
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>>71053246
>he hasn't read The Shadow: Blood and Judgement
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>>71053270
>Most of those are awful
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>>71053237
I want to rape Terra.
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>>71053146
Or Budd Root.
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>>71053317
You cannot rape the willing
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>>71053283
>Like fucking women into their wombs would make them like you?
Fucking a feetpussy wasn't that great
There was no ahegao
Her hips didn't move on her own
She wasn't even my 8 year old sister
She did become a slave to my cock so I guess that's SOMETHING.
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>>71053203
molto bene
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Finally someone who doesn't cave in to the demands of bullies.
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>>71053282
I think he'll be just fine, anon.
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>>71048434
on /co/ general draw thread we should all draw characters in same pose to support cho and post on his blog/twitter/etc.

fuck the haters/butthurt aholes
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>>71053255
You need to find better women, nice vaginas smell and taste amazing.
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>>71053255
>learned how to finger a pussy
>tounged her anus and vice versa
>didnt come inside

Goddamn son. At least you learned
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I just try to imagine all these feminists as Marzipan from homestar runner
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>>71049080
>Necrophilia

Busting out a cold one I see.
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>>71053282
Rick "Hobo Piss" Remender.
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>>71048434
POSTAN IN A STICKY AYY LMAO
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>>71053276
Jewish Dracula who wrote through WW2, Korean & Vietnam Wars, the Cold War, and fears of full-on nuclear war
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>>71053342
Sup d/ic/k
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>>71050565
>COULD give a shit
lel
It's 'Couldn't give a shit'. Why are these people so stupid?
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>>71053339
>Her hips didn't move on their own
Really? Because that's probably the one thing from hentai that I've actually had happen.
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>>71053194
Innocent Dickgirl Artist. Otto Schmidt.
He also recently did a Marvel team up book with Gamora and She-Hulk. Oh and I think he's working on the Korvac Saga he atleast did the designs.
Good thing he's not famous since apparently fan art is something you can get in trouble for now.
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>>71053088
>dat Phil Fish response
I'm dying.
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>>71053317
>>71053337

Now is not the time, Beast Boy
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Drawing an oversexualized rendition of a teenager is kind of creepy, that is my only opinion on this matter.
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>>71053339
You can't have every fetish. Naturally a foot-fetishists dream doesn't have to be your thing.
If you get no ahegao, you are not fucking vigrously enough.
Somewhere around the tenth orgams in a row her mind will give.
Now the problem is making her body hold till you reach tat point.
Kegel-train that bitch till the can crack walnuts in her ass and pussy.
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>>71049314
>Based Mole Man
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>>71053346
That would actually be a really fun idea. If it caught on, we could make one really huge compilation of all sorts of female /co/ characters drawn in this pose.
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>>71053345
Is that the Ghost World girl?
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>>71050721
>The original tweet got deleted but Liefeld copied it into his tweet when he responded
Fucking Liefield. I can't hate the guy, no matter what atrocities he's committed against drawn feet.
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>>71049662
This is a joke. This has got to be a joke. I mean, for a start, it'd ruin puppies for you.
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>>71053444
She's old enough to get into a bar, as has already been pointed out.
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>>71053434
She was very passive except for the handjobs
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>>71053345
Ayyy
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>>71050319
that's somebody's son he's dribbling over! Ew gross!
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>>71052566

Stuck-up man haters that have never actually supported him will continue to not support him. His life goes on though they are are a little more angrier every day.
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>>71051135
Keep it straight. The CLAIM was that him wearing the shirt was preventing women from entering or progressing in Engineering.
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>>71053054
>Conservatives don't want Sexualized women because it'll turn boys into mindless rapists and pressure girls to live up to expectations of being sex objects which have no place in a moral society

Actually conservatives don't want people having children out of wedlock and they think sex in media will lead to teen pregnancy. They don't give a fuck about "rapists".

All the shit you typed is leftists.

I'm not even American, so I don't fall on either side, but get your shit straight, man.
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>>71053501
Gwen, as in Spider-Gwen and not just 616 Gwen Stacy, is in High School is she not?
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>>71053282
Erick Larsen and J. Scott Campbell didn't apologize for shit when that Twitter fiasco happened awhile back.
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>>71053444
Even if she wasn't an adult, Frank certainly drew her as one.
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>>71053540
>The CLAIM was that him wearing the shirt was preventing women from entering or progressing in Engineering.
That's incredibly fucking stupid.
But that shirt was still tacky.
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>>71053444
She's a 20something year old fully developed young woman. If that's creepy to you, you are either a SJW or a homosexual.
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>>71053346
Let's draw cute boys in that pose, too.
For... reasons.
Jokes aside, I would really like to see Steven Universe trying to pull that and moaning about how hard it is.
>Cho, sexism is hard. Can I stop now?
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>>71048434
Thank you Cho
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>>71053444
Teenagers are legal everywhere.
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>>71053203
Excuse me?
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>>71050691
someone should post that picture of kamala's ass
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>>71049146
What was the comment? I wanna know what got this mod so triggered!
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>>71053339
>She did become a slave to my cock so I guess that's SOMETHING.
>come over, im wearing sweatpants
>only
Thats all that matters
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>>71048434
>sticky
BASED CHO
BASED MODS
MOTHERFUCKING BASED
Holy fuck, I'm cumming for more than one reason.
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>>71053576
>trusting mongols
>ever
We let them in once and now our country is shit.
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I'd buy this man 50 beers.
He is the voice of reason we need in a hysterical whistle blower world.
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>>71053459
>Based Ass-Man
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>>71053584
>Teenagers are legal everywhere.

I'm sorry you live in Bumblefuck Tennessee where the age of consent is not 18.
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>>71053346
Lets draw Frank Cho in that pose
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>>71053568
He can wear whatever the hell he wants he put a probe on a comet.
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>>71049686
>nom nom
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>>71049977

based anon is based
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>>71053631
The age of consent is 16 in 30 states.
It is 17 in ten states.
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>>71053610
Swedecuck detected
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>>71050363
>Frank Cho is married, has a daughter and is a professional artist
The sad thing is that to these people, that means he has something to lose. They'll start calling his wife, following his daughter, and trying to get him blacklisted by the industry, and "it's okay because they're doing it for the right reasons".

They're terrorists and no one wants to brand them as such because they're white women rather than brown men.
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>>71053631
In most of Europe, age of consent is LESS than 18.
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>>71053631
You do realize that 18 is still a teenager right?
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>>71051977
SG isn't getting a movie.

Maybe they'll give her a different creative team, but they'll probably just pull the plug.
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>>71053550
College it seems.
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>>71053644
Marvel is meme capital of the comics world, anon.
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>>71053672
Half-Rus, half-Ukr, actually.
>tfw you'll have to bear with mongol genes all your life
;_;
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>>71051421
I'm lucky enough that I go to a small university out in the sticks, so most people are content to just live and let live. You get your fair share of crazies, but most people are pretty grounded.
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>>71053464
im down to try
would be sweet also (all the type of fan art/characters)
with tagline 'support cho'
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>>71053631
Tennessee is one of ten states where the age of consent is 18.
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>>71053687
>They'll start calling his wife, following his daughter, and trying to get him blacklisted by the industry, and "it's okay because they're doing it for the right reasons".

File a harrasment lawsuit.
Handle it like an adult
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>>71053705
Batgirl and Harley Quinn are gunning for that title.
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>>71048434
Praise his Holy name
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>>71053688
The rest of the world knows about europoor's moral degeneracy. There's no need to pick on third world countries.
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>>71053707
Actually I'm fine with them. Enjoy your war
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>>71053687
No it's because they are doing it for "progression" literally their dumb crusade falls into the agenda of the left wing so instead of being seen as insane radicalists like muslims, they are seen as people who are doing "social justice" by pushing an agenda that a main party that has control in the states wants.

That is the only reason the media wont anally ream them into oblivion because people of power actually believe half of this garbage that these internet terrorists push.
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>>71053464
Should do male characters too, just so it's spread out.
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>>71052566
responding on twitter is easy guyz, give it a try
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>>71051531
For gods sake Robbie, the man is as old as the written word itself, and probably blind to boot. Can't you cut him some slack.
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>>71053688
>>71053690
Shieeeeeet
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>>71053737
>Louisiana was 16 the whole time
I fucking blew it
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>>71053754
>>>/pol/
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>>71049712
Johns's situation is even worse, seeing as how that's his dead sister and all. All Rodriguez did was draw the character and make her costume.
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>>71052430
k old man
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>>71053088
>the comment about fapping to Grey DeLisle was favorited BY GREY DELISLE
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>>71053779
rekt
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>>71053779
>anybody even saying that the piece of shit Henderson is even near Cho's skill level
That's like a baby fighting an Elephant.
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>>71053808
>>>/cuck/
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>>71053726
I'm surprised there aren't any requests in the draw thread yet.
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>>71053762
I'm surprised our military equipment didn't turn into dust and both sides didn't clash in a CQC of epic proportions.
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>>71048917
fuck off to tumblr, you're the reason this shit happens you manchild loser.
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>>71053778
>it's spread out.
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>>71049452
so the costume is his child then? Jesus christ
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>>71048917
Anybody is clever compared to these manginas and cavernous trollcunts.
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>>71050368
underrated post
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>>71053737
now that gays are cool, when will consent go to 12?

or is incest first?
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>>71053830
She seems to be able to take a joke, which is why I like her more than most women.
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>>71048917
Let it Go nigga
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>>71053839
You obviously don't know anything about warfare. I blame your inferior non-mongol genetiks for this ignorance.
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>>71053845
People are fucking weird
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>>71053780
I'm fairly certain it was either deliberate or he just didn't care, probably the latter. Robbi Rodriguez is just a pissy fucking queen.
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>>71053886
>muh slippery slope
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>>71053688
In germany, the age of consens is 14, which is also the age where you are allowed to drink alcohol without your parents being in trouble.
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>>71052056
Its just slicked-back hair.
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>71053568
No contest there that the shirt is tacky. But we had people, and I don't mean random morons, I mean the more extreme legit feminist groups claim that the dude's fucking shirt was a bona fide civil rights issue to the universities, and governments.

The royal astronomical society and some other academic agencies actually released responses because of this.
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>>71052235
Eminem predates cultural appropriation in their minds. The guy came out of Detroit and is the only white guy in his crew, and he actively tries to look whiter. It's really hard to call him racist when he's hanging out with Doctor Dre all the time.
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>>71053886
We need to engineer monstergirls.
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>>71053780
lol no Stan totally did it on purpose
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Fun Fact, age of consent in Australia is 18, the age of consent for anal is 20.
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>>71053921
>Robbi Rodriguez is just a pissy fucking queen.
He looks like a gay supervillain.
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>>71049880
I did, if the sticky is still around when and if he responds we will have lulz.
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>>71051684
>and even worse Stan Lee?
Stan Lee is a piece of shit.
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>>71049741

Off topic for the thread, but I saw a friend of mine get fucking bootyblasted over the GB announcement and I was able to talk her down by noting that it's probably a business move to take advantage of a huge IP (like Star Wars getting a spin-off) and possibly even the creation of a "Ghostbusters Cinematic Universe" ... Some things aren't about gender empowerment, they're about money, and given how much people Fucking love Ghostbusters even after all this time, there is a ton of money to be made there.
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>>71053886
Federal law says the lowest a state can set the age of consent is 12, so it could happen.
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>>71053844
Yeah well you know what I mean! spread out booty for all!
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>>71053948
>In germany, the age of consens is 14
Wait, so Laura is actually legal?
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>>71053886
>i cant have sex with my gay lover plz turn the age of consent to 17
>to 16
>to 13

I can see it now, a segway of destruction
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>>71052430
Damn it Grampa, I've seen you Jazz record collection.
Now either sit down and enjoy some Wu Tang, or go to sleep.
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>>71053639
So what? even if he was Einstein himself, if he looked retarded he would still be looking retarded.
For that matter Einstein looked pretty fucking retarded
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>>71053973
So what you're saying is that when I'm on summer break just do it and don't ask?
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>>71053992
good to know.
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>>71048751
What's his stance on Superman?
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>>71053737
If you fool around with a minor you WILL go to prison. That chart means NOTHING in regards to statutory rape laws. It has more to do with what age you can be tried as an adult at in a criminal court.
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>>71053949
Look at the back, man. Giant patch of scalp shining through.
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>>71053979
>that hair
APOSEMATISM STRIKES AGAIN
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>>71053948
What's the age of consent for shitting on someone?
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>>71053979
Let Pagan Min's light shine upon you
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>>71048434
Late to the party, but:
>Sticky
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>>71053979
Glad I didn't buy into the Spider-Gwen hype, bland as fuck cunt of a character and the art is pretty shit as well.
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>>71048434
BASED CHO
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>>71053973
Fun fact: Age of consent in New York is 17, and you can be charged for having sex with anyone below the age of consent if you're 16 or older. There have been 16 year old couples charged with raping each other by having consensual sex.
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>>71054043
Why is she touching that candy like she's giving a head?
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>>71053979
What has this guy actually made other than Gwen's costume?
>>
How didn't the fat bloggers get mad over this?
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>>71052799
I dunno, I can see him doing it just to be a dick.
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>>71054074
Mami is a whore.
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>>71054045
that's a daily requirement to keep your German citizenship.

Just like in Sweden you must prep Jamal's cock every night for your wife.
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>>71048434

>Frank Cho, Based as fuck.
>Thread proceeds to be invaded with social media-stalkers posting .jpgs of conversations between people with *FUCKING GASP* opinions about things
>None of these bitches ever CREATED art
>Still have opinions

What is your face when its you faggots who do nothing but run a blog that REQUIRES people like Frank Cho to create controversy, so morons just like yourself read the fucking thing, anyway.

You're garbage.
You create nothing.
You bitch and whine about things based on a self-aggrandized agenda because you think social media matters in a philosophical way to ANYONE over the age of 10.
Frank Cho is better than you. He CREATES. You do nothing but leach off exploits by people like him.

If you're over 20 with a FB/twitter/tumblr/fucken ANY of that shit, you're already written off and have no idea. Thank you for your time.
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>>71054074
You know exactly why.
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>>71054040
THIS. You faggots who think you can go pork a tween hooker because of an infographic you saw on fucking 4chan better get ready for a long stay in prison.
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>>71054079
>red saber
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>>71053979
He looks like when a character gets the soul of another trapped in it and that slowly takes over his body
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>>71054079
Did Leia's tay tays just turn Yoda to the dark side?
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>>71049662
The actual article is about how those safe spaces are stupid, by the way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-hiding-from-scary-ideas.html?_r=3
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>>71054079
Because 1 they don't actually read comics, 2 it's not Spider-Gwen and 3 it doesn't reference the Manara cover
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>>71052884
This man is my hero.
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>>71054079
No one told them to get mad.
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>>71054103
>just to be a dick
Ridding us of that uppity pincushion would be one of the nicest things Stan Lee ever did.
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Has this been posted yet?
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>>71053948
Not quite.
Kids above 14 can have legally fuck each other, but if you are above 16, you have to wait till they are at least 16.
And you can only legally marry them without parental consent once they are 18.
Which is just a signature on a legal document with no religious implications.
You can technically marry in like 15 minutes if you have your papers in order.
At which point you can also can have a registered partnership (legally equivalent to marriage, but not technically a called that) if you are gay.
Things get complicated if you are not a German citizen with the marriage, obviously.
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>>71054079
im guessing they didnt know about it, since theyd have to shift through the one hundred other star wars variants to find it
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>>71048677
Can't shank the Frank
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>>71054121
>bitches about anons
>blogs on 4chan

So, do you actually do anything yourself? Or are you Robbi Rodriguez?
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Thank you based Cho. Please deliver us from the valley of death that is Tumblr. Amen

Sorry for shit photoshop
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i'm too lazy to read all 820 posts, so someone plz make tl;dr to me
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>>71054121
Im a creator, and im with Cho on this through and through.
Reminder that the haters bring attention which bring people who actually like it and want to buy it.
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>>71053979
>that everything
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>>71054212
>Cho is awesome
>Sexing children may or may not be legal in your neighborhood
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>>71054212
Frank Cho did a thing

and now there's a sticky
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>>71049344

>Be lucky you're never around me

So is this punk threatening, Cho? Cause i'll take Cho's back in a fight any day.
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>>71053568
He was too busy conquering space to brush up on the latest fashions, and since it was a gift from a woman he probably didn't think that it was going to attract the crazy.

Seriously, if Einstein were a contemporary these same idiots would ignore all the theory of relativity stuff and focus on the fact that he needs to manscape to be a totes hottie.
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>>71050254
>1 panel ruins something entirely
Good luck enjoying anything! Spider Gwen isn't great, but it's definitely readable and could go somewhere cool
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What's the best Cho book?
Is there any actual guide to his style?
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>>71053886
>>71053997

Personally I hope the next marriage equality debate is polygamy. There's absolutely no reason other than "muh morals" to keep people from practicing it. Frankly if incest were to happen that'd be fine too. The chances of genetic defect are far higher from a woman over 40 giving birth than from even a sister having her brother's child and we certainly don't stop 40 year old women from marrying.

The age of consent is already 16 i most states and that seems appropriate to me. Keep in mind not even a century ago people could get married in parts of hte US at 13. If that's a slippery slope, it's a pendulum.

Things that will never be included in the slipper slope: Sex with children, sex with animals.
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>>71048434
This guys incredible.
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>>71053339
>She wasn't even my 8 year old sister
That's more your fault than hentai's fault anon.
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>>71048434
based CHO
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>>71054040
You're right that those numbers mean very little, but that's because there's more to age of consent laws than a single number in most states. For example, in Florida the age of consent is 18, but if you're under 23 you can have sex with anyone who is 16 or 17.
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>>71053146
Most of them probably think of Chaykin as the Marvel fill-in guy rather than the guy who did American Flagg and all the other cool stuff. Chaykin would give no fucks if he were attacked by them though. As he says, he's not a bleeding heart.
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>>71049259
Uzumeri's more than just "some guy".

Take a wild guess at what website he contributes to... I think you'll (not) be shocked!
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>>71054206
Since last night there are three witches who have agreed upon shanking the Frank.
On /tg/'s Strikers '89. The questmaster finally decided to act on the pressing question of who gets to bone the MC.
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>>71054079
It didn't make light of the Manara controversy and she's not a teenager.
>>71054212
>Cho Based
>SJWs dumb
>This is what I was wearing when I landed on a comic
Then it loops between Based Cho and Fuck SJWs for a while.
Looking on Twitter it seems about done, most everything just looks like people patting Cho on the back.
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>>71048434
All hail
The ASS Master,Keister King,Booty Baron,Mr ASS
Frank Cho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLoehwYshPc
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>>71054212
People are butthurt over art. The artist doesn't give a shit. Those people are even more butthurt that he doesn't give a shit that they're butthurt. Fucking 16 year olds is still considered statutory rape even if the age of consent in your area is 16.
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>>71054105
agreed
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In semi-related good news, Arthur Chu's been driven into retreat on Sad Puppies and started deleting his nastier attacks on family members.

I suspect that one's the fault of (probably frivolous) legal threats though, rather than any change of heart.
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>>71053766
When it's upper class white people, women especially, it's progressiveness. When it's upper class white dudes, it's freedom fighting. When it's poor white dudes, it's harassment. When it's poor brown dudes, it's terrorism. That's how it works.
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>>71053550
College.
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>>71054257
the punk in question is this guy >>71053979

Cho's not in the best shape but i think he'd be fine 1v1 the guy
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>>71048434

I clapped so hard I triggered the entire Colegial British Feminist Movement's anxiety
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>>71052091
yeah, all he did was make the costume white and give her hood so her head looks like a clitoris
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>>71054284
You're talking about Romeo and Juliet "laws". Which are used so a high school senior who turns 18 isn't going to be thrown in jail for dating a 15 year old that goes to his high school.
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>>71054328
I'd bet hard cash Cho would push his shit in
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>>71050997
Bought my shirt last night. Should be in next week. I go to a polytechnic university. Can't wait to see how no one overreacts to it.
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>>71054272
>There's absolutely no reason other than "muh morals" to keep people from practicing it

An absurd amount of pent up Christianity
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>>71054045
Shitting one someone is banned. You are allowed to spread shit on the food of the people, thought you need a license for that.
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So Rodriguez is getting all pissy for no reason, but as long as Latour doesn't say anything, I won't give a fuck.

Can Chiang draw Spider-Gwen now?
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>>71053830
Grey Delisle is a cool woman.
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>>71053979
....he actually looks sort of like Dagger Type.
>>71054045
There is none. However there's strict rules about cleaning yourself after being shat upon, particularly if you're bavarian.

>>71054257
Cho's an independent contractor right? And Roddy there is freelance or a marvel employee? If I were marvel, I'd want to keep any employees the HELL away from anything that might start a fight and put the Comicon in the wrong kind of news.
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>>71054390
Can Cho draw Ms. Marvel now?
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too bad rodriguez turned out to be a shitlord of this kind of proportion.

i really liked his art on FBP/Collider, thought he made the book stand out.
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>>71054394
I honestly don't understand why marvel doesn't keep people on a shorter leash when it comes to social media.
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>>71049345
What did he say?
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>>71054234
It's funny because it's true.
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>>71054366
>tfw bought a t-shirt with a skull of a native american on it
>tfw go to one of the most liberal colleges in country and surprisingly nothing happened

I mean the shirt was bitchin but it was kinda disapppointing
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>>71049344
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>>71049080
can we get some Babs sexy wheelchair action?
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Its satisfing watching someone stand up to the SJW panda ring crowd
cough
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>>71053886
As much as people like to joke about that, every so often I see something pop up on the internet that makes me feel like it's not entirely a joke.
I mean, I don't think legalizing gay marriage is gonna link directly into legalizing horse fucking. But a lot of these faux-progressive sites and blogs that just want page views will start doing it.
Which is why you see Gawker publishing articles about a man who has a "relationship" with a horse or a woman who fucked her father.
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>>71052566

>Hating on Cho
>Praising Squirrel Girl
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>>71054328
What if a confrontation happens at a con? They might just end up having a beer together and clearing up drama, but then again that artist was pulled from tumblr so probably not.
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>>71053886
....did you ever read Humphries "OUR LOVE IS REAL"?
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>>71054496
>not r9k.jpg
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>>71054459
im guessing they embrace it under a sort of "theres no such thing as bad publicity" mantra.

which is a shame since most of them come off like cunts and school children
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>>71054360
Close-in-age exceptions are so much more than a way for kids in different years at high school to have sex. In Colorado anyone aged 15 or 16 can have sex with someone less than ten years older than them. I really doubt there are very many 25 year old high school students.
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>>71049080
This sounds arousing as fuck
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>>71054523
/r9k/ stopped being about wizards a long time ago.
It's a Rare pepe museum now.
Have a semi-rare pepe.
Don't save it though.
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>>71052848
You scared me there. I thought she had hopped in to give her 2 cents. I like her.
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>>71054437
Don't sexualise Kamala, she's too pure
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>>71054491
I've seen a fair few articles this year that are sympathetic to pedophiles. Nothing on bestiality yet.
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>>71054177
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be doing it to rid the world of an asshole, he'd be doing it for his own entertainment.
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>>71054528
While i didn't really like superior spider-man i didn't start to hate Slott until i read some of his shit on twitter.
Seriously the guy acts like a fucking child.
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>>71049132
>>71049322
>>71049623
>>71049701
Can you fuck off and to the stupid fucks replying to this faggot, he's not but a shitposter who goes against the grain in every single thread even when he's in the wrong
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>>71054234
I feel like we need a banner of this.
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>>71054491
Horse fucking is already perfectly legal.
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>>71054390
Latour seems unlikely to give a fuck.
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>>71054491
Horse fucking was legal in my state until that guy died and ruined it for everyone else
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>>71054644
Wow dude
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>>71054039
"I hate Superman. I think Superman is a boring and moronically simple character. From his Kryptonite weakness to his silly disguise with the eyeglasses, Superman is an ill-conceived character. Just because he’s the first superhero doesn’t mean he’s a good character. And don’t get me started on him crying on every other comic book cover." - Frank Cho
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>>71054663
Not in a handful of states in the US.
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>>71054701
Horse-fucking is legal in Germany, mostly because it's easy to mistake their women for horses.
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Absolutely based.
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>>71054718
Superman can be pretty well written but I'm sick of him too.
Characters in general need to be retired at some point. This is why I prefer Euro/Manga/Indie comics opposed to Capes.
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>>71049078

Someone just call that "The Lady's Rag" already
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Cho draws some great fucking asses. He should be the only man allowed to draw Shulk.
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How many fucks does Frank Cho give? Hint: it is less than or equal to 1.
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>>71049991
who's the dude in that?
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>>71048748

Mark Waid is EXACTLY as delusional as this.

Its why I refuse to read anything he makes ever again. And Daredevil is my all time favorite fucking hero.

Its surprising how many Marvel guys are complete brainwashed SJW cucks
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>>71054780
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>>71051656

Worked in the same building with Stan a few years ago. Guy was smooth as fuck and everyone loved him, even the folks who were in a rage about him fucking over Kirby and Ditko all those years back.

Guy's a swag motherfucker in person and he could tell someone that he fucked their mom and do it in such a disarming and charming way that they'd love him for it.

He was nothing but cool to the everyone in my office, though.
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>>71054782
John Mcintosh, writer for feminist frequency and madman.
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>>71048434
People getting mad at shit like this is why I'm moving out of my country next month.
Enjoy your shitty country feminist.
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>>71049434
>Looks at image
>Actual pig shitting.
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>>71049078

Oh i cant wait to see their reactions to this
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>>71054790
>Its surprising how many Marvel guys are complete brainwashed SJW cucks

Happens to a lot of tech guys as well.

For some reason white male nerds are prone to white knighting hard.
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>>71049991
I would post that tribute pic of Amnita, but i dont wanna get banned
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>>71054827
What country are you moving from and where to?
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>>71054827
+1
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>>71054790
>Its why I refuse to read anything he makes ever again. And Daredevil is my all time favorite fucking hero.

Hahahahaha, you dumb idiot. Why do you even pay attention to what they have to say outside of their art? It doesn't matter.
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so all of this shit is again about feminists shouting "she's more attractive than me, so no one can see her"? right?
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>>71050565
>I'm offended by his arrogance and his fucking stupidity

ok?
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>>71054857
Its because they missed the oppurtunity to get a gf or still belive that being nice gets you laid
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>>71054599
I want 20 dicks in her in an hour.
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>>71054893
>James May
I'm gonna miss him. I mean, it makes sense that Jeremy got the can after the shit he pulled, but I can respect May and Hammond for refusing to do the show without him.
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>>71048882
Must suck to be King Autist
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>>71051911
Got me, anon. Very good.
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SOCIAL JUSTICE BLOWN THE FUCK OUT 9.4.2015

SOCIAL JUSTICE BLOWN THE FUCK OUT 9.4.2015

SOCIAL JUSTICE BLOWN THE FUCK OUT 9.4.2015
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>>71054932
You got it John!
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>>71054927
Maybe that's why i've never noticed any sort of SJW typs amongst the techs i know.
They're all either married or divorced and in their 40s.
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>>71050590
>>71050659

"Adult" and "teenager" are not mutually exclusive concepts. All "teenager" means is that you're in your teens (that is, from thirTEEN to nineTEEN).
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>>71049132
Fuck off back to Tumblr for your "discussion" faggot.

Christ /co/ what's with all the tripfag SJW here?
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>>71054775
I love his Shulk butt
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>>71050565
Wait was Spider-Gwen really based on Rodriguez' little girl?
If that's the case then it's more understandable why he'd get antsy though still a faggy move.
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>>71050553
That's adult situations age right there.
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>WAAH YOU CANT DRAW PEOPLE IN SEXY POSES THAT INSULTS ME; THE VIEWER WHO CANT TAKE EYES OFF YOUR ART FOR SOME REASON

BASED FUCKING CHO

TUMBLR BTFO
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>>71054896
I'll put this little princess into the other castle, alright.
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>>71049176

Man, fuck modern "art"
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>>71054945
Did they refuse, or did the BBC just can the show because it wouldn't be as good without all three? I get the feeling you couldn't "Angus Deayton" that shit and replace him.
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>>71054892

Its my decision to have nothing to do with people so delusional.
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>>71054999
ASS FO DAYS
TRIPS CONFIRM
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>>71049488
This is why I think we should stop storytimes! If no one is buying the comics we like and not buying the ones we don't, then nothing will change.
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>>71049269
Just wait til people push him further
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>>71054999
I miss Gamora's ;-;
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>>71052566
>Pic barely shows T and A
>This was a commissioned piece
>This is not a variant, but drawn on a blank variant

I want these people to end themselves I the most painful way possible. I could at least understand the outrage if the drawing wasn't done for a price and for a customer.
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>YOU MUST CENSOR YOUR ART! BECAUSE MY EYES ARE GLUED TO IT AND I DON'T LIKE IT!
-tumblr
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>>71054945
They're best friends I thought, there's no way any of them would work with other people.
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>>71053560
>dem love handles
Shit for some reason they give me a chub.
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>>71054857
Too much time on the internet. The wrong parts of the internet.
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>>71054999
Those trips don't lie
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>>71052566
Vocal minority.
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>>71050464
>they're bitching about this one because she's a teenager
she's not
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>>71055015
Why? Is it gonna rub on you? Dummy.
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>>71049344

Oh, is that bitch trying to start shit!
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>>71050628
I prefer it to 'victim', personally. Victim makes it sound like that event defines them now.

Personally, if I was raped I'd address it as 'I was raped' rather than labelling myself a rape survivor/victim/whatever.
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>>71053444
>20 YEAR OLD WOMAN LOOKING SEXY IN A POSE IS CREEPY

A M E R I C A
M
E
R
I
C
A

OF SJWS
S
J
W
S
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>>71051217
McKelvie is such a boring artist.
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>>71055000

Um, you think this >>71053979 is capable of fathering a child? I'm guessing that it doesn't inseminate anything but boy-rectum and twinkmouth.
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>>71054998
To be fair you'd want the same discussion with some SJW asshat who would constantly lob insults but then block twitter followers when they hear something they don't like.
>>71055067
She may be. But she's an adult Teenager it seems.
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>>71054998
Which tripfags aren't SJW?

>Dan Dashley
>Boobanon
>Boco
>????????
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>>71055000
drawing your daughter for comic book fans, then getting mad when they jerk off to it seems a bit short sighted to me.
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>>71050363
>Frank Cho is married, has a daughter
lol, like they care. Heard of the "sad puppies" deal? SJWs consider it a conservative conspiracy, thus everyone involved is either racist, sexist, homophobic or whatever
When someone pointed out that one of the people considered to be racist had a black wife and a mixed daughter SJWs started crying "HE'S USING THEM AS A SHIELD! ITS LIKE 'CANT BE RACIST BECAUSE MY BLACK FRIEND...' "
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>>71049774
>ComicGate
I supported the idea behind GG but you shouldn't try to force a movement.
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How can we show our support for Cho.

dose he have a kickstarter or some thing i can donate too.
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>>71055085
Well most people who are subjected to crimes are called victims

But if it's rape, you're a survivor not a victim
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>>71049554
As a hashtag, I have been #triggered by your post.
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>>71049774

A comicgate would fucking destroy an already fucked up industry.
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>>71051206
NICE
HUMAN
BEING
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>SJWs literally trying to force down a fucking unofficial cover.

kek

Fucking Nazi Germany tier censorship demands.

How hard it is to JUST NOT LOOK AT IT
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>>71054790
Actually, do you remember what happened during the Manara cover controversy? Slott tweeted this a little after he got into an argument with someone over the Manara cover (he thought there wasn't anything to get worked up about):

https://twitter.com/DanSlott/status/502500478807470081

Remember that he was getting into debates like this the day before:

https://twitter.com/AdamSorice/status/502209976073744384/photo/1
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>>71055133

>>71048790
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>>71049132
>I do wish Cho would've actually debated or talked with someone about this

Debating the sort of people who get in a self-righteous huff over drawn butts is giving them way more validation than they deserve. Those sorts of people are worthless, as should be treated as such.
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>>71049344
>One of my kids
jesus dude, get a fucking grip also 10 bucks says Frank would knock him on his ass
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>>71051267
kek based lionhead
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>>71055011
When Jeremy was initially suspended pending investigation, both May and Hammon publicly stated they wouldn't continue the show without him. And the Stig drove a tank up to the BBC Offices with "Bring Back Clarkson" banners all over it and hand delivered a petition to bring him back to the Producers.
The Top Gear guys are pretty fucking great.
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>>71055192
they took both down and apologized
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Do any of you know what the deal is with the hugo awards this year?
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>>71055171
>I think women have right

What the fuck do women's right have anything to do with how some fucking person draws a fucking picture

Jesus Christ.

World War 3 needs to come so the fucking SJWs can get a real dose of fucking ISSUES
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>>71055192
>based
They took it down (the women one only) and made a public apology.
They're not based.
The apology made them look so pathetic.
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>>71055172
plus, you get to fap when you buy it. art is great.

win win
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>>71048434
This is glorious and Cho is based.
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>>71050479
Kamiya does block idiots, though
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>>71055048
I kind've hope that May and Clarkson do a travel show together, while Hammond goes back to being the sexiest man in Wales.
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>>71052566
No. A handful of fucktards won't have any effect on this based of a human being.
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>>71055085
Guy from earlier who was raped here. I never really thought about it beyond disliking the term "rape survivor" as the other guy said, but I do say "I was raped" or "person who was raped" rather than referring to myself as "rape victim." I have no big problem with that term, but I don't use it because it feels like I would be defining myself by what happened to me rather than dealing with it and moving on.
So, yeah, I agree with you I guess.
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>>71052998
>Patriarchy crushing thighs
>Not thighs full of disgusting fat
I'm a man and even I've got better looking legs than her,
>t-thanks squats
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>>71055155
Pretty much, all I see happening is Marvel and DC pushing their "progressiveness" even harder to prove how "not on these guys side" they are.
It'd probably singlehandedly be responsible for getting tumblrtard bloggers actual jobs in comics.
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>>71054999
>tfw the Thor franchise has been fucked up in the MCU
>We'll never see Valkyrie in the MCU
>Frank Cho will never be given a major ongoing like Spider-Man or Avengers for an extended amount of time
Fuck this world.
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>>71054121
Slott plz leave.
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>>71049132
>DEBATIGING


>GIVING ANY SORT OF LEGITIMACY TO A BITCHING THAT AMOUNTS TO 'PLEASE DONT DRAW LIKE THIS; I CANT WATCH A WAY FROM THIS UNOFFICIAL COVER BY ARTIST I DONT LIKE AND THUS MUST BE CENSORED'

KEK

FUCKING ROLF

JESUS CHRIST
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>>71055230
>Hammond goes back to being the sexiest man
He's not bad but he can't be the sex-
>in Wales
Oh
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>>71050840
Neat art. Help a pleb out and tell me where it's from
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>>71055116
Honestly, there aren't many Tripfags I can think of that regularly contribute to these kind of discussions. The best ones just do story times and bullshit with the anons in the threads.
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>>71055116
Lesbianon was very anti-SJW after getting out of that cult herself, but she isn't here anymore. At least not with a name.
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>>71051267
>PEOPLE SO PRUDE
>THEY GET WORKED OVER
>WHEN SOMEONE POSTS A PICTURE OF CLEAVAGE/BEING SEXY

HAHHAHAHA

AHAHHAHAHHA

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH INTERNET
HAHAHAH
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>>71048434
>>71049488
>>71053538
I want to support Cho directly. Is there something in particular I should buy of his to support him? (Something from the Big 2, since this is Mainstream comics related.)

I'm not giving Loeb a cent, though, so Cho's run on Red Hulk is out of the question.
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>>71049468
Time to draw all the lewd and email it to him.
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>>71055117
kek
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>>71055206
Zombie Nation got nominated for some stuff, which is supposedly the result of a coordinated campaign, and not because of actual merit
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>>71055207
>World War 3 needs to come
Mate, I know you're angry but please at least wait till some sandnigger arabs start chimping out.

Don't jinx this shit for me, I'm still hoping for both Poroshenko and Putin to stop being faggots and somehow make peace.
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>>71055116
I don't think Redwood is, but a lot of people don't seem to like Redwood.
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>>71051686
Ken actually got pisssy when people made r34 of Elizabeth ?
Source?
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>>71055199
>And the Stig drove a tank up to the BBC Offices with "Bring Back Clarkson" banners all over it and hand delivered a petition to bring him back to the Producers.
lel
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>>71055207
SJWs are pampered white suburbanites unless WWIII rolls a tank up to their front door it won't affect them at all.
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>>71055276
She still desperately wanted to fuck BA.
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>>71055085
Well, how much that defines you does not depend on the term.
You were victim of a crime.
A crime that does not involve killing someone.
You are not a fraud survivor, you are a victim of fraud.

Calling you a survivor should require you to survive a process that shouldexpectably see you dead. Like a stabbing, an assassination, a kidnapping in Yemen, torture in a Pakistani prison where they think you are CIA.

You should not wear either term as a badge. But falling victim to a crime is not to be glorified, but to be overcome.
And in this, being showcased and cheered like you did something awesome does not really help.
Worthy of applause is when you can say you are over that.
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>>71051267
I never liked any of the Fable games, but props to Lionhead for that.
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>>71055289

Savage Wolverine Volume 1: Kill Island. He wrote and drew it.
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>>71055310
no one likes tripfags

no one
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>>71049509
>yfw he goes on a drawing spree
>Draws every female character he can think of in that position
>She-hulk
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>>71053444
That's fair enough Anon.

It's really not that weird to me though, I live in England and the age of consent is 16 and people start to be seen in a sexual light round'bout 17, earlier depending on how quickly you sexually mature.
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>>71053088

>Phil Fish

Shit son, that gotta burn
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>>71055325
The idea is that survivor has a positive connotation rather than victim. Like you survived and are going to get through this. Which I think is a load of bull and is more stupid word twisting

At the same time I see these same people say that rape is a life-shattering event that you will never, ever get over ever so I dunno
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>>71055310
That's because Redwood is a retarded nigger faggot
I know you're fucking here, Redwood, you frothing cunt. I hate you
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>>71049833
>>71049899
>>71052184
>>71055126
>Comicgate is already a thing.
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>>71054523

It has more to do with SJWs, Anon. I've never even been to r9k.
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>>71055306
I am fucking done.

People can't draw SEXY anymore.

Lionhead posted a CLEAVAGE and HAD TO APOLOGIZE AND TAKE IT DOWN.

People are using 'womens rights' as basis for censoring UNOFFICIAL, BASICALLY FANFIC, PICTURE because same people JUST WONT LOOK AWAY FROM SAID PIC?? BECAUSE?? IF ITS SO DISGUSTING; WHY YOU WATCH IT SO MUCH?

This fucking generation, the post-90 generation is completely fucked in the head.

It needs to fucking die away.

90s were a mistake.
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>>71055199
>>71055315

It wasn't the real Stig, though.
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>>71055268
Reverse image search is a thing.
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>>71055289
This week Cho has a Jungle Girl comic out but that's not Big 2.
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>/co/ has cho
>/v/ has kamiya
You know, for all the stereotypes about asian dudes having tiny dicks, they seem to be the only ones with balls.
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When it comes to women's body image, it feels like we're all on the same side. Everyone loves curves. Big tits, meaty legs and fine asses...but not bellies though. Fuck bellies.

So why is there always such a debate over how attractive girls in comics should be drawn?


Oh and also
>shitposting in a sticky
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>>71055386

Not Redwood, but he's pretty damn based.

Stop being mad that you aren't /fit/
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>>71055401
Well shit.
Still goddamn funny though.
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>>71055320
And what, exactly, is wrong with that?
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>>71055011
>>71055199
>>71054945
They refused. James May had this to say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGtlQvNfMuU

That last line. True friendship right there.
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>>71049728
the thing that upsets me most about all this is that suddenly everyone is an expert art critic and expert on anatomy, and anatomy is the zenith of artistic achievement

its a fucking drawing of a woman with spider powers, don't be such slaves to reality, if perfect anatomy is so important that you think its not a nice picture you just have bad taste
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>>71051076
Paramedic here
6 years ago, when I was learning, I got to do the Heimlich maneuver on a huge tittied girl
>mfw
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>>71055390
Atleast it's a quiet thing then.....please tell me it's not a thing.
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>>71055442
>he's pretty damn based.
>Guys, I'm TOTALLY not redwood.
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>>71049833
>>71049899
>>71050811
>>71052184
>>71055126
>>71055155
As unlikely as this sounds, it could be a reference to Watergate and not GG. Media in particular add -gate at the end of just about any scandal as a sort of reference.
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Regular human.
>See shit art.
>Look away and forget it


Tumblr landwhale
>See shit art
>Cant look away
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>>71055116
>Boco
>Anything other than a complete faggot who needs to deepthroat the barrel of a loaded shotgun
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>>71055133
Buy his shit. Spend money on comics shit he gets paid for. Whether it's cavewoman books, statues, other shit.

>>71055206
Hugo awards have been partially hijacked by political side A.

Political side B gets annoyed at this and brigades the voting system.
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>>71049556
>leftist
SJWs have gone so far around that being gay is sexist actually.
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>>71055381
And this is precisely their problem.
They need you to be shattered, to not be the same ever again.
They need you to be defined by being raped.
Because it gives you victim points and their ideas validity.
They don't care about you.
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>>71055318
I don't know how else to start this off without this qualifier, but let me just say that i'm not whire and I think everyone should really stop saying 'SJWS are white this or that'

There are just as many black and asian SJWs nowadays. However, it's always upper middle class college kids with no real experience in the world.

A black SJW saying we need more black characters is no more valid or invalid than a white SJW saying we need more black characters. They just have their skin color as an advantage.
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>>71055453
Absolutely nothing, I totally sympathise.
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>>71053886
Look at him!
Look at him and laugh!
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>>71055440
I like girls with tiny tits. That's the one good thing about these redesigns, the reductions turn me on.
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>>71055455
Has anyone read James May's tweets about adjusting life now that he's not working?
It's fucking hilarious.
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/james-may-struggles-to-cope-without-top-gear-filming-while-jeremy-clarkson-waits-for-bbc-decision-10125621.html
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>>71053688
Yeah, but there are important details, if i'm not mistaken here in Italy the age of consent can be under 18 (not lower than 14, i think?) but ONLY if the partner isn't more than 3 years older

Or i might be full of shit, dunno
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>>71055395
This is not a time or place for us to get mad. This is the place for us to laugh at all of THEM getting mad.
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>>71049728
>If the original cover had looked more like these, there probably wouldn't have been any outrage whatsover.

I've spent more than a decade going online and watching people get outraged. What you say here is wishful thinking.
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>>71055504
I need that Lil B, based god twitter post.
>online bullying smh.
>just close your eyes and walk away like damn nigga
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>>71055516
>>They need you to be defined by being raped.
>Because it gives you victim points and their ideas validity.
SO THIS IS WHY

SJWS DONT TALK ABOUT AMERICAN VAMPIRE

GIRL OVERCOMING RAPE
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>>71055116
Tripfags by definition are SJWs, because SJWs care about identity politics (you can't say that to me! I'm X! You can't do that! It offends group Y! My pronouns are xim xir and xe!).
You have to be self absorbed and think your identity matters more than that of the hivemind. You have to think that you deserve to stand out and be regarded and treated specially.

And that's what Tripfags are.
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>>71055440
>not bellies
Goddammit man, you have to appreciate it all!
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>>71055514
Oh
Fuck
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>>71055496
It's both.
-gate became a popular suffix but people would definitely draw gamergate vibes.
>>71055563
>>71049728
Yeah people would probably bitch but they couldn't fall back on "it also looks weird"
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>>71048434
The only criticism I have about this cover is that Frank didn't draw in Spidey reacting again. At least just to keep the gag going.
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http://i.4cdn.org/co/1428529087408.png
Here cometh the fruit of Cho!

>>71055540
Innit?
>>
Everytime someone complains, Frank Cho should draw another cover.
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>>71054121
>This level of assblasted

Maybe you should jerk it or something, anon.
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>>71048434
Is this an actual variant or is it just a mock up?
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QUESTION: Are comics forever fucked from this date on?

By that I mean no lewd or suggestive shit in Marvel/DC EVER without a sjw backlash?
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>>71055440
>but not bellies though. Fuck bellies.
Nah, faggot, I'm with that one girl from Pulp Fiction.
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>>71055575
That ain't Lil B you mongoloid.
That's Tyler the Creator
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>>71055632
it's a sketch on a blank variant
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>>71055616
No! You must twerk it for the glory of Cho!
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>>71055514
Remember when Gay came first the acronym soup?

How do you think L got pushed to the front? Just because they're gay doesn't change the fact that they're men. Evil oppressive men
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Someone please.

Tell me.

Why don't these people

just look away

it's art, a fucking image

They are bringing up all sorts of 'womens rights' to censor it

a sexy pose

censor it

becuase womens rights

didnt womens rights once fight for the right to wear fucking revelaing clothing or something in the 1950s
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>>71055540
I've talked to both neo-nazis and sjws.
Neo-nazi are much more pleasant.
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>>71055612
>first one is a man
never change, /co/
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>>71055685
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>>71055310
I like Redwood, he alright.
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>>71055637
Probably not
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>>71055685
If they don't stay upset they can't push their agenda.
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>>71055638
>>71055536
>>71055588
Well if you add up all four, you basically have a fat chick.
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>>71049686
I wish to write about Gwen having a bit too much to drink and then taking home several men to gangbang using her full range pf abilities
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>>71049662
>>71049662
so when young people get offended now they can go to a room containing all their childhood memories instead of facing the real world and reality? Is that what our society turning into? is this what SJWs want?
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>>71055607
I doubt he'd be able to fit in there.

Also it just made me realize this should be what the Joker does instead of killing people.
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>>71055757
A woman can have a curve to her belly and not be obese anon.
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>Aqua Teen Boston Episode leak thread doesn't get stickied
>Frank Cho mocking SJWs does
Wow, mods. Wow.
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>>71055637
>no lewd or suggestive shit in Marvel/DC EVER without a sjw backlash?
We reached that point back in 2012, anon.
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>>71055794
>This mad tumblerite
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>>71055797
both are terrible
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Somebody please stop Cho, he went back in time and drew a vagina on a AvX cover.
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>>71055685
You must be wrong!
How can women possibly like being looked at and admired for the beauty they possess!?
Everyone knows that women are so utterly inferior to men that they must be protected from their very gaze!
Separate men from women!
Put women under protective safe-space-rags!
Never shall they be judged by their healthiness or grace but only by their conformity to ideology!
How else could disgusting landwhales with no career, looks or brains feel good about themselves?!
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>>71049741
I would actually enjoy a Wonder Man movie, please let this happen.
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>>71055834
I agree. Hope is a cunt and drawing her should be a crime.
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>>71055811
No troll, the point is that there's nothing newsworthy about someone doing what 4chan does on a daily basis.
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>>71055612
MY STARS AND GARTERS!
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>>71055205
>>71055212

ah man for fuck's sake, they handled it perfectly
>>
Someone should probably arrest Cho. For disregarding the 13th amendment, I mean. It's illegal to own people like this, Cho. You're going to jail.
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>>71055206
as a backlash to what people viewed as overt political correctness in scifi a group of writers organized a group to coordinate and vote for a specific set of nominations for books/writers they felt were good. people are upset because it's technically brigading the ballot or whatever

then there were writers like Vox Day that felt the voters did not do enough, but no one cares what Vox Day has to say because Vox Day makes the average /pol/ user look like a bleeding heart liberal
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>>71055855
I kinda want a wonder man about wonder man trying to make a wonder man movie.
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>>71050923

They card you when you enter bars here in New York.

If Gwen was at a bar where people her age found her then it definitely was a place that wouldn't look the other way.
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>>71054896
Goddamn that toad is perfect
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>>71055310
>Redwood
>Not a SJW
Nigger pls
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>>71055934
i can't read any of the posts

save a bigger version next time
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>>71055797
I remember this SJWs are really confused by foreshortened perspective
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>>71055934
>>71055952
Apologies, seemed I posted an image for ants
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>>71053830
Grey DeLisle is open about having previously worked as a stripper, dude.
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So how long until people start attacking Bruce Timm for his pinups?
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>>71055858
I think it's less about being news worthy and more about the mods not wanting to deal with a dozen threads running about this at the same time. That Batgirl cover with the Joker spawned what seemed like hundreds of threads, most of them were just some twat trying to stir the pot. Might as well sticky it this time so it's all in one place and people can get it out of their system.
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>>71049314
Oh WOW
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>>71054300
>she's not a teenager.
Neither is gwen
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>>71054927
Ah, so they still don't know the secret, get a friend with a gf/wife and have them hook you up.
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>>71053246
>>71053146
They'd all be cool with Howard Chaykin because he's friends with Matt Fraction and by extension Kelly Sue DeConnick. Matt and Howard write a mediocre smut comic for Image together.
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>>71055878
who is vox day
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>>71055971
>she's married
Fuck this shit. How come whenever I find a woman I actually like she's either married, a lesbian or fictional?
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>>71055790
Show me an example then.
.
.
.
.
Oh wait, you can't!
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>>71055685
Same reason women keep bringing up bullshit in the past.
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>>71055981
Bruce Timm is a fucking hack anyway so I don't care.
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>>71056015
Do you think you would really have a chance with this somewhat famous woman if she was single?
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>>71053282
Anthony Cumia.
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>>71055961
This is funny though. Catwoman's perspective was really wonky in that image. I think it's alright to make fun of the whole "seductive women" trope in comics, just like it's funny to make fun of any common tropes.

When the conversation shifts from "haha this is silly" to "LITERALLY OPPRESSING WOMEN MISOGYNIST SHITLORD SCUM SHOULD GET FIRED" is when you should get worried.
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>>71055907
This.

I live in Manhatten and any bar you go to at any time of the day even for lunch you're carded.
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>>71055982
That's a bit easier to swallow, but I still think the leak of Aqua Teen's response to the event that made Cartoon Network into what it is today deserved a sticky more.
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>>71052566
How much money do artists get anyway?
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>>71055971
Man, I'm anti-slut shaming but that just feels like something you shouldn't talk about to your horny fans. Unless she's purposely cucking us all, In which case, fuck that bitch,
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>>71050626
Nah, congress rules us. The president actually has relatively little power. You wanna rule America, you've gotta become just... a fantastically corrupt congressman.
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>>71056029
Pregnant women.
Females building muscle for strength.
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>>71056062
Nah, but just feel like lamenting because most women I know suck, and not even in a good way.
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>>71055310
I really don't have much of a problem with tripfags. To me, it's a case of don't hate the player, hate the game.

Redwood, if you're listening, you're alright in my book.
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>>71052998
>Thinking fat=booty
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>>71056075
I think about $250 per page is average for Big Two work. It varies with more well known artists getting more.
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>>71055685
Understand that the actual objective by many of these people is to increase their own prestige or to create a job for themselves where they get to do nothing but make decisions on the collective morality of society.

The ultrachristfags actually did the exact thing to movies. The studios pay the christfags money and give the the authority to say what goes or doesn't go in the movies.

The outside activists here want the same sort of power. Whether it's paid by the government, the church, an indudstry group, or even fucking kickstarter. It's rent seeking behavior.
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>>71055981
I will defend him in blood.
Pinups are like oxygen to me
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>>71055685
Women are sexist, Anon.

And boobs aren't realistic.
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>>71056062
A woman being "famous" is all a mind game. Any man can get with any woman as long as he's presentable, charming and at least somewhat genuine.
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>>71054467
There's something endearing about that blooper.
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>>71055401
Maybe I'm dumb, but where did he get a goddamn tank?
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>>71056111
It depends on what you eat, but it actually does.
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>>71056155
Probably the way Picard has to hang on to Ryker to keep from falling over.
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>>71055637
I don't want to jinx this but I think that one day SJWs will just sort of disappear and nobody will notice.
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>>71056029
She aint fat.
I just wanted a reason to post her
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>>71056166
Tanks are surprisingly easy to get if you can afford one.
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>>71056115
That seems ridiculously high, I would have guessed 50-100.
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>>71055934
That blonde looks like she may be a qt.
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>>71056237
Thats for the furries nigga
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About to buy pic related because I support artists that I like, what am I in for? Apes? Babes? Both? Mostly babes and/or Apes?

Any anons that happen to have it?
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>>71049344
So is this Robbi Rodriguez the creator of Spider-Gwen?
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>>71055115
She's old enough to drink, go to bars and goes to college.
She's an adult
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>>71055345
Looks interesting, thanks for the tip
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>>71055440
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>>71048434
I must say, that is a very pretty Joker
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>>71056012
he wrote a couple hugo nominated short stories but is mostly famous for maintaining a blog where he claims he is a neoreactionary (despite identifying as a christian and neoreactionaries being opposed to churches), suggested that honor killings and throwing acid in women's faces were beneficial to women, repeatedly called the SFWA president "McRapey" and also called a black writer an "ignorant half-savage" when given access to the SFWA's public twitter which represents the entire organization. then complained when he got yelled at for doing so

>"I don't believe I could recommend this as a strategy for most men, but it is surely educational to learn that raping and killing a woman is demonstrably more attractive to women than behaving like a gentleman. And women, before all the inevitable snowflaking commences, please note that there is absolutely nothing to argue about here. It is an established empirical fact."

but meanwhile frank cho is getting crucified for drawing too big of an ass on a woman
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>>71056217
You know what would improve this picture?
The bulge.

Heavy Nazi war machines coming down snowy slopes and GIs holding it together in the artillery barrage.
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>>71056217
...are there any shots from behind?
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>>71053979
Isn't he too busy fighting Batman to get upset about Cho?
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>>71056237
I may be getting my numbers confused and it could be $150 with $250 being for more popular ones. Or $150 is for fill-ins and people just starting. I looked into this a little over a year ago, so I'm not sure.
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>>71048434
Only 5 bucks for this tumblr-bitchslapping variant? I can pay more!
>>
All this shit, this is just America right?

Right?
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>>71056141
>someone disagrees with you
>LITERALLY SEXIST

you know what else is funny? the whole "mansplaining" thing. I get that men shouldn't try to be the authorities on specific women's issues, like periods or pregnancies. That's fine. But now mansplaining means whenever a man thinks he knows more than you.

and its especially funny that they do the same thing but in reverse. like the whole stupid man spreading thing on buses, where they criticized men who spread their legs in public transportation. lots of men said "hey, its actually really uncomfortable for our balls if our legs are straight together". they're response was "THAT'S BULLSHIT WHAT A LIE YOUR BALLS ARE FINE STOP INVADING OUR SPACES"

so they basically "womansplained" by acting as if they know more about what it feels like to have balls.
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>>71056217
I'm not saying bellies can't look nice, I'm against balloon bellies. I suppose there was some confusion.
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>>71056265
I'm just saying that seems high, especially for the quality we usually get. I live by myself on less than they would get for four books at those rates.

>>71056329
A bit more reasonable.
>>
>>71053979
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
>>
>>71050363

>Discredited

But Anon

Gamergate won.
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>>71049774
I am getting so fucking sick of the "-gate" suffix.
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>>71055981
That looks like Superman TAS or JLA unlimited
was he the one who designed the characters?
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>>71056341
Mostly. The third world may have it's disadvantages but SJW don't prosper here.
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>>71054635
>>71055398
Got our first one, boys.
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>>71056283
Goddamn
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>>71055390
Nah, it's just gonna get swept up by GG regardless of what medium. GG is a scapegoat now, it gets blamed for everything. There can be no other gates. It even got blamed for shit that happened before GG was a thing.
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>>71056343
Half of the SJWs does. The ones not identifying as male, I mean.
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>>71056341
Yeah, Europeans (except Britbongs) usually are super blase when it comes to sexuality. It's pretty great.
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>>71049774
>#comicgate
only death is real
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>>71056267
It's mostly official work, covers and such. If you want sketches and titties, get the two Women books, and the Modern Masters book about him is also entertaining.
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>>71049078
The site is called "The Mary Sue" Nothing to see here.
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>>71056056
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>>71055548
>I like girls with tiny tits.
DFC nigga
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>>71056341
Thank god this SJW shit doesn't fly in Mexico
If someone ever tries this shit, the female chaka comes out of nowhere with a knife saying that there's more shit to be worried about
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>>71048434
Based Cho.
When will Liberty Meadows continue?
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>>71056313
>>71056316
I dont see any yet
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>>71055612
>Innit?
Hey Karl
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>>71056373
Yes
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>>71056423
I'll get them too then.
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>>71056398
>except Britbongs
Are you sure you're talking about the right country?
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>>71056505
There's nothing better.
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>>71054799
Wait, i know this is a sketch cover, but how accurate is that price?
Do people really spend 6 dollaroos for a single issue in america?
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>>71056564
How do you think the guys on the Ricky Gervais show would have discussed this cover controversy?

What side would the different guys be on?
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>>71056596
Good lad.
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Fucking based holy shit.
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>>71056601
I'm talking about the media, mainly. I know how the people can talk. I was at a barbecue recently and the middle aged women who I was talking to before just started having a conversation about whether they spit or swallow. Weirdest thing.
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>>71056601
Different anon here, but your country did just outlaw hangings and female ejaculation.
Though I can understand if that's just the government's problem.
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>>71056522
That's not a positive. Th fact that we have all he SJW things going on is a testament to our quality of life. We have the time and effort to care as opposed to other countries.
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>>71056561
Shes also a milf
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>>71056608
prices, USD

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2015/2015-02.html
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>>71056609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVDViHoRROw

Ricky is very pro freedom of expression
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>>71056601
Britbongs are so afraid of butthurt that they just banned spanking.
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>>71056651
>hangings
Goddammit I meant gang bangs.
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>>71055640
Nah nigga, it's pimp ass Hajime
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Can someone post proof of how Rodriguez was trying to strongarm people out of comics?
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>>71056645
>>71056651
Yeah, politics/media is almost completely different to how the average person acts around here. Most of the reason why everyone's so fed up with government bullshit.
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>>71056316
Sort of.

It's Amber Rose and there's probably a lot more pics out there.
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>>71056697
Dunno about strong-arming people out of comics, but there was the earlier tweets threatening Cho personally.
>>71049344
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>>71056561
Amber Rose is the perfect model
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>>71056679
And facesitting. That's bullshit.
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>>71053979

He looks like Jonah Hill is trying to do a a bit part on Bruno
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>>71056398
The French love sex and drawing sexy things.
They are not exactly rational about it (You like what you see? Good. You think I'm easy? Slap to the face!) but open.
Germany is different again. Massive, unsexy nudity and adult sexual relationships are pretty commonly displayed, but nothing pornographic or sexy outside the specific genre art.
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>>71056679
Americans are so non-white, they accidentally chose Obama their president.
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>>71056692
Demo D?
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>>71055870
Underrated post
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>>71056651
>>71056679
It's just the government, m8.
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>>71053255
I like the smell but then again I also like the smell of my own balls so maybe I'm just weird
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>>71056015
source on those eyes? search is just getting me anime preggo sex
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>>71056657
Oh, i see, those prices aren't that different from ours
But now that i think about it, our issues here in Italy are often mixed, for example when i buy ASM i get Scarlet Spider too, or when i buy Batman i get also Nightwing and Detective Comics, is it the same there?
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>>71056796
Do vaginas smell like balls?
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>>71056736
I'm trying to convince a friend how shit Rodriguez is and he asked for evidence that he was trying to push people out.
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>>71056063
Not a fan of Anthony's politics but dude is eternally based
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>>71051217
>>71051511
As a fellow brown person, I will second and support this action.
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>>71056820
Majimoji Rurumo, but I didn't tell you that.
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>>71056601
Bongistan is on the verge of becoming Sweden 2.0
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What I find most amusing is that what OP posted and the prior picture with Spider-Gwen is considered lewd altogether.

Not to gauge one thing to another but come on. Who gets bent out of shape because of a little TNA? TNA has literally be proven to save lives.

But that's just my opinion. His rights to draw some damn good parody fan art/service on the internet of all places shouldn't be mitigated by people saying that characters shouldn't have proper bums.
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Jesus christ, you childish fuckers dont realize you are just as delusional as the people who started a riot over the Manara cover. The fucking "one of us, one of us" chants in this thread reeks of desperation.

I am just as tired of people freaking out over shit like these covers, but at the same time I am way more fucking tired of you reactionary nerds trying to prevent your favorite toys from being taken from you.
Your toys aren’t being taken away, your mom just told you that you have to share them and now you don’t want them anymore because they have cooties on them. Its like people decrying the fucking femThor comic despite knowing fully that he isn't dead or anything and that this will obviously not be a permanent change. And yet you fuckers freak out.

None of this shit fucking matters, your money is still going to these huge corporations that are realizing that nerdrage is worth just as much money as fanboyism. They are also mostly COVERS the fucking shit inside is the same shit we usually get.
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>>71056849
Browse the thread a bit, I'm pretty sure there's more of me.
There's a tweet in here where he complains about Stan Lee singing over his name, that's pretty funny. And you may want to point out that he's claiming ownership over a character that, despite his claims, he did not create.
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>>71051267
HAHAHAHA! okay, that's awesome.
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>>71056141
it's funnier because Wu isn't even a woman
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>>71056848
Yes. Yes they do.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh5fziONXYU
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Forever based Cho.
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>>71056893
>a country that's stereotyped to be full of muslims is turning into sweden!!!!
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>>71056899
>TNA has literally be proven to save lives.

Source? That sounds fascinating.
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>>71056923
That's actually what brought on this debate since he claims that Stan signing over his name was a dick move and that Robbi was entitled to be upset because he was creating a popular depiction of the character.
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>>71056910
here's your reply
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>>71056948
Source?
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>>71056899
SWEET MOTHER OF GOD BLESS YOUR SON JESUS DOING WHEELIES ON THE SACRED TRICYCLE OF THE HOLY SPIRT

AMEN
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>>71048790

Wait, do you mean the babes and dinos are both eating people, or that it has babes and just dinos are eating people?
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>>71056893
Nah, Sweden's actually pretty nice to live in.
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>>71056910
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>>71056910
No point in writing any of that, its not like telling them what they already know will change their minds.
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>>71056954

There's like, a hundred studies that proven the wider the access to increasingly pornographic material, the lower the number of violent sexual crimes in the respective population
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>>71056195
>but it actually does.
>implying
fit booty>fat booty
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>>71056899
been*
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>>71056899
>TNA has literally be proven to save lives.
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Just bought some Frank Cho stuff on comixology to support based Frank.
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>>71054272
>There's absolutely no reason other than "muh morals"
More like "muh finnancial beneficiaries"
Really polygamy is not a good comparison to gay marriage rights.
Because when people are considered legally married it comes with all sorts of government benefits including some tax leniency and guaranteed next of kinship which is extremely difficult to sort out when it comes to marriages involving more than two people.
If polygamy becomes legal (and marriage based benefits continues) what is to stop people from claiming multiple friends and husbands/wives to cheat the IRS?
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>>71057014
I knew it.

I fucking knew it.

I should tell this to one of my friends who's really against porn for some reason. Nice girl, but misguided.
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>>71056956
Based cho fucks SJWs
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>>71056228
Huh, you'd think there would be some difficulty getting one given that it's a weapon. Take it they either break the turret or ammo is at least impossible to get?
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>>71056954
>>71057039
http://nation.foxnews.com/culture/2011/03/04/study-staring-breasts-increases-heart-health

This is just one article of many.
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>>71056948
Wasn't even talking about Muslims. Just the political correctness.
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>>71048434
H-how? How could one man be so based?
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>>71057018
Thanks Korra
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>>71056848
It's like a stronger moister version of balls honestly.
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>>71056956
You might want to tell him that all Robbie really created was the costume, not the character, and the way he's acting about all this is honestly a bit creepy.
Maybe draw parallels to obsessive waifu-fags.
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>>71057063
That much is obvious but some evidence that Robbi is an unparalleled shit would be helpful.
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>>71056910
Or, and more likely, you know, people don't care for twats getting in on the action regardless of gender. When I play vidya, I don't care if the people I'm with have a dick and when I'm talking about the latest purchases I've made for comics, I don't give a rats ass if the other person happens to have tits. I only care if they're cunts. That's about the extent of it.

What you dipshits see is people decrying assholes and attribute it to gender...for some reason. Know why people don't like the new Thor? It's badly bloody written. Know why people get pissy about this sort of controversy? Shockingly, it's because there is no controversy and the only people trying to stir shit up are people who don't even have a bloody vested interest in the hobby in the first place trying to change shit more to their liking.

I don't bitch out people who like 50 shades of Grey even if it isn't my cup of tea. Same goes for Vogue and every other newsstand piece of garbage that people seem to love. I may not like it, but provided they like it somewhere where I'm not, hey, feel fucking free.

I'd like the same damn consideration.
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>>71056910
>stay silent, nothing bad will happen while companies listen to the people who are actively against expression in favor of feelings.
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Wait, so is the Spider Gwen comic not liked here?

The creator is a fuckwad, but I've still been enjoying the issues.
Do I have terrible taste, /co/?
Help me!
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>>71048748
I stopped reading Marvel comics because of this guy.
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>>71056386
damn thats cute. Also as much as we might dislike them, mlp-tan has some cute art
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>>71057134
Is it enough to break my gay spell of sucking my bfs balls?
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>>71057170
It's alright. The best thing about the book is her costume.
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>>71057076
Yeah, I'm willing ot bet you can't get ammo for the thing without a lot of background checking.
That said, you can still level a small building with it.
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>>71057092
Again, the state of the government in the UK is very different than the general population. From what I understand there's more support in sweden for all their bullshit. Am I incorrect?
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>>71049741
More like the studio realized "oh shit, we gave goddamn GHOSTBUSTERS to the guy who made Bridesmaids and the first thing he tried to do was cast Snooki in a lead role, we should go on damage control for this NOW."
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>>71057170
Yes, you have terrible taste.
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>>71057008
It's funny. This victory is kinda pathetic. There would've been a time where people bitching would be greeted with "who gives a shit?" and everyone would move on. Now we're so bogged down by these controversies.
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>>71048434
Based Cho, he is a shining light in these days of darkness and SJW gloom.
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>>71057186
>mlp-tan
Our son did well guys.
Our son did well
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>>71057170
It's not a bad comic. Not my thing to be honest, but Matt Murdock as the Kingpin and Police Lieutenant Frank Castle are cool ideas and I want to see more.
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>>71057170
I didn't think it was too bad. Spider-Gwen and Silk were both surprisingly enjoyable.
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>>71052900
the fuck does gamergate have to do with comics?
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>>71048434
Can anyone recommend something by Frank Cho to get on comixology? I want to support this based artist.
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>>71057150
His response was that Robbi created the most popular depiction of the character which I called BS on.
I dunno I think he might just be waifuing Gwen.
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>>71055442
/fit/ is my main board and Redwood is a faggot
He looks like the combination of a 13 year old mexican boy growing his first mustache and nutsack, he is a manlet and if the most recent pics I've seen of him are any indication he stopped lifting a long time ago.
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>>71057257
Murdock is the Kingpin's lawyer
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>>71056910
Yeah okay, but no point in calling these people idiots or anything.
Acting like Whor is going to last is dumb but that doesn't make her any less stupid than Rulk or Spock.
I don't see the issue in backing Cho in this either.
I don't really get the "stop acting like they're trying to take your toys" when these idiots are bitching over FAN ART
>>71057274
Nerd shit gets lumped together.
>>71057295
He made Movie Gwen?
>>71057305
Suuuuure he is.

>>71057170
It's mixed.
Some people are getting pissy with how hyped it is, some people like it, some don't care.
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>>71056602
Man of taste detected
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>>71057295
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Probably best to just let the argument go if you want to avoid a lot of bullshit.
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>>71056899
Based Redwood, based Cho, based Stan the man, too much fucking based.
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>>71055240

What an idiot, don't you know men can't be raped? Just like white people can't be discriminated against.

How dare you label your experienced on the same playing field as some chick who went to a bar and took thirty shots and woke up with some guy she regretted.

Its not remotely the same you CIS scum. Check your privilege right now before you trigger me and I show you what its like to get raped...when I rape you, wait...when I sexually assault you and no one believes it happened and laughs when you do tell them.

Thats fucking equality.
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>>71057191
probably not because you are already gay and that shit only gets cured by christian camps
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>>71057170
Gwen is the worst part of the book. Detective Castle vs Kingpin is way more interesting.
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>>71057274
It gets blamed for everything now. It's the sjw scapegoat. It's funny cuz the gamers are okay with it.
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>>71057325
>Suuuuure he is.
Fair enough
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>>71057274
Who knows? Clickbaity shitheap sites want to make Comicgate a thing so they have something to write about and get clicks for, so they're namedropping GG or complaining about it to get it connected to comics.
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>>71048562
I actually enjoyed his work on Savage Wolverine, but noone else did.
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>>71057102
>brown
>qt
>fit
I'm pretty sure that's how angels looks like.
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>>71056867
I heard nothing thanks anon, you're great
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>>71057287
Savage Wolverine. Liberty Meadows.
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>>71057331
It's weird because he thinks with his dick a -lot-.
I'm sharing the Dodsons right now with him.
Maybe he just got turned off by Cho's weird eyes he draws.
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>>71056910
But I pirate whor and buy superior X

what now faggot?
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>>71057219
I've seen even Swedish people getting tired of SJW shit en masse on websites. I hope we're in the twilight hours of this fad.
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Reminder that the death of Michael Ansara didn't get a sticky.
Believe me, I'm the only one who cares.
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>>71056274
Not even close.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Robbi_Rodriguez
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If you're going to daughter-u someone don't make it a cheap "what if X were Y" thing. Spider-Gwen is like if one of those old Marvel What If one panel jokes got taken way too seriously.

Golden Oldie ongoing when?
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>>71057355
I feel like if it sells enough to last, and spends enough to resolve some of her angst, the character and story over all could go interesting places
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>>71057419
Fuck, I hadn't heard that.
What got him in the end?
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>>71057418
Good to hear sweden isn't a completely lost cause at least.

People in general seem to be finally realising that "left wing nutjob" is a thing that exists, even though "right wing nutjob" has been a stereotype known for decades.
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>>71057353
*nods respectfully toward you* stand your ground against these fucks, an try to cope as best you can
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>>71057405
Is Savage Wolverine actually any good? I've heard it's not.
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>>71056910
get back to SUPLEX CITY BITCH
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>>71057384
We died a long time ago
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>>71057465
It's Cho given an excuse to draw Shanna the She-Devil. It's worth it enough.
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Why is this a sticky, is the Mary Sue calling for Frank Cho's job are something?
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>>71057465
it's just Wolverine Team-Up, Cho's run has Shauna the She-Devil (obviously) and the Hulk
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>>71049344
>That low level of intelligence that he slid by with via mediocre art
Wow.
>Unlikely to get sexy poses now deliberately

Sex, the force responsible for everyone being alive is NOT EVIL you fucking loons
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>>71057534
To keep it contained to one thread, rather than have multiple threads all over the place.
Which honestly seems like a good compromise, I'm actually having a surprisingly good time in here and the front page has room for actual content.
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>>71057534
To keep 50 different threads from being made.
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>>71057444
Hopefully. Also, I don't like how she quips like Peter. Wish she would develop a more distinct quirk.
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>>71057534
You would prefer 145 "based Cho" threads?
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>>71048748
SLOTT SHAMING!
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>>71057170
It is, the comic gets a regular storytime and some anons enjoy reading it.
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>>71049344
>Be lucky your never around me
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>>71057102
Show might be shit, but I do praise it for it's spreading of fit love. fit girls are tops
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>>71049750
but anon, at no point did they stop being man nipples.
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>>71057609
>>71057609
>boob freckles
Hoooo, boy.
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>>71052566
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/list/Gwen_Stacy/1

>people don't know that smut exists
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>>71056865
>>71051511

I personally can't imagine what its like to be a member of a non white, or non-white-washed race and have to deal with these people that think they're "helping you."

I enjoy shitting on liberals all day long in arguments and stuff but I can only imagine their smug fucking face when they say shit like "I support people of color, gays, whatever" meanwhile they do fuck all except post shit on the internet.

Like people that took fire hoses to the face marching with blacks for civil rights did something. Blows my mind these fucking retards actually regularly compare what they do to actual advances in equality.

Really I'd just like to run a quasi hunger games with a bunch of liberals lined up together in a march and promise them John Boehner will get a sex change if they all stay together for fifteen minutes, and see how long they make it once the shotgun round beanbags start flying.
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>>71057255
Son? Just gets even hotter
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BASED PEDRO PEREZ
A
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E
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P
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D
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>>71056666
Dude is on point.
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>>71052566
>Squirrel girl
>That panel having any ass what so ever
>Let alone listening to any SG fan

Anyone who can enjoy that god awful art must be legally blind.
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>>71048434
All he needed to do was have Joker putting his finger on her face like the Batgirl variant and it would have been perfection.
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>>71057274
Fucking nothing, those /v/irgins can stick to their cause cancer, this is an attempt to lump in people so they're easier to hate.
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>>71057577
There's still time for her to develop
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>>71057170
We don't have to like or agree with a creator politically to like the work.
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>>71057646
Not sure if I have any more boob freckles, but I can look. I've got a whole folder dedicated to fit girls
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>>71053741
Okay, that's kinda funny.
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>>71057419
Mods if you're monitoring this thread can he please get a sticky, he deserves it.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0030516/
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You guys have any idea how silly it is that this is some sort of controversy? Every one needs to step the fuck back and gain some goddamn perspective. Jesus. That the Manara cover was controversy alone is ridiculous, but why are people expecting artists to carefully consider what may or may not offend a bunch of privileged as fuck babies. Motherfucker. Everyone just fucking grow up, Jesus Christ. I mean I watch cartoons and feel like more of an adult than the sad sacks of shit that see a sexed up character and say "let's get this fucker fired this is an outrage!"

Can Remender and Cho just write the tumblr revenge comic and publish it through Image?
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>>71050319

someone should draw SpiderGwen in this pose

with bulge included
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>>71048434
Based Cho
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>>71057646
he name is Michelle Lewin and yes she is amazing
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>>71057682
1.muh and 2.dick
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>>71057803
>Everyone just fucking grow up
You cant tell Manchildren that.
Litterally
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>>71048434

Based

> FU PC Nuns
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>>71055359
I would kill for this.

Cho is the hero we deserve.
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>>71048434
>Until the internet explodes, dear
BASED

Now if only it were pre-52 Harley.
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>>71057688
fuck, can we get some SG in that position? Would be hot
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>>71057650
It's starting to redpill a lot of us. I'm holding out but it's getting harder and harder though. I'm a brown dude and always thought of myself as pretty liberal but apparently all it means is trading one group of bossy rich white assholes for another. At least the right will let me enjoy tits in the privacy of my home; porn is too big an industry for them to do more than pay it the prerequisite bible thumping lipservice.

The bonus though is that I have a pretty airtight argument using their own logic. I'm not sexist because I only have a problem with white women. And that's not racism, because as a brown person, I'm not in a position of power and can't be racist.
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Truly, T&A is riding to our rescue.
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>>71057873
Dudes a conesouier of boners
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>>71048434
I'm a woman on Frank Cho's side. I'm tired of Crazy neon haired tarts and the sexless mongoloids seeking to impress them making up problems that dont exist on my fucking behalf.

I like comics games and cartoons, but I also live in the real world and can properly distinguish reality from fiction.
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>>71057682
>People know of Pedro

FUCK YES
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>>71053634
I'm sure he'd be amenable to that.
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>>71058039
Oh man, you poor woman with your internalized misogyny
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So the same ducking Nutjobs who tried to #FireRickRemender and wanted James Gunn of off Gaurdians of he Galaxy have thoer panties in a knot over Frank Cho.

Fuck these click bait hungry Nutjobs.
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>>71057930
THIS THIS THIS
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>>71052566
>liking big breasts now is unacceptable if you are a straight white guy
Is this Kinkshaming? I'm from /d/ so those breasts that person drew to make fun of Cho are kinda vanilla.
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>>71057969
I'm pretty much in the same boat.
I really do get a kick out of calling SJWs racist and then watching them trip over themselves trying to apologize.
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>>71056313

You had me at Nazi
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>>71057650
Man, I'm liberal and considered myself feminist until recently (I can't bear that word with people who identify under it, so basically I just fucking believe everyone should be treated the same). A fucking girl bitched me out for making more than her when A) I'm her supervisor B) I've worked there longer than her and C) I'm a better worker. Meritocracy is not sexist and she told me if I were a feminist I'd ask for a pay cut until everything had been given justice. Fuck that.

Then she went on a rant about humanity because it's a male centric word due to it having "man" in it.

I made a joke to her about the word "woman" having a "man" in it, then sent her home for the day because she was making a scene.
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>>71057660
With a dick three times the size of the body
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I would care about the effects of imaginary characters on fragile women, but there are far more important issues I'm busy not giving a shit about.
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>>71058079
I know rite.
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>>71058039
>but I also live in the real world and can properly distinguish reality from fiction.

This, a million times, this
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>>71053963
Oh my....
Mind giving me a little sauce with that image?
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>>71058039
>I'm a woman

Right, and I'm a Nigerian prince. Send me your bank details and I'll share the inheritance of my nation with you.
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>>71058142
you'll see a pink slip in a week
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>>71058010
I find him bland and milquetoast.
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>>71058142
You fired, son.
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So let me get this straight, this is a blank page. Frank Cho, not even a variant but just an image he made in his own free time to homage another cover and people are offended. I really wish I could say I am surprised, but power to Cho for sticking up for himself and his freedom of expression.

Also I personally see nothing wrong with the image, Spider-Man does similar and more risky poses than what Harley and Spider-Gwen are doing on a regular basis and no one shouts trigger or rape over that
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>>71051531
STANNIS THE MANNIS
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>>71048434
well, the internet exploded she can get up now
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>>71058205 >>71058232

Nope, a privately owned business and I've been there over a decade and get along really well with the actual owner. I talked to him about why I sent her home and told him everything I told you guys.

Her mom called spazzing out and I guess he told her that if she didn't want the daughter working there anymore he understands, but he stood behind my decision.
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>>71058169
Pretty sure the artist is Hirame
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>>71058270
>risky

The word is risqué.
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>>71058270
Pretty much
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>>71058335
I am sorry sir, spell check got the best of me
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>>71058142
You could've asked her if she were in your position if you'd do any of the things she was talking about and watch as the hypocrisy flowed out.
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>>71057930
fuck it, I've got a few bucks to burn
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>>71058051
Jebus
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>liberals trying to censor anything that hurts their feels
>mfw liberals are more conservative than conservatives
Fuck this crazy ass world.
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http://scarlet-sasquatch.tumblr.com/

who the fuck is Scarlet Sasquatch?
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>>71057969
white guy here, white girls are shit. Brown forever
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>>71058403
>trying to lump a whole group together
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>>71048658
I knew there was a reason I loved this comic.
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>>71058424
I don't know I don't care why are you posting her?
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>>71051217

How is he wrong with that quote again?
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>>71058386
Would you please share when it is done so I can get a copy of it. I would pay for a classic Harley version but I'm a student and funds are limited right now
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>>71053075
dang for a sec i thought this was the scarecrow from Batman TAS where barbara dies
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>>71058051
Hotdamn sam
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>>71058010
>>71058051
and suddenly I've discovered another artist to follow
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>>71048434
absolutely based
thank god for frank cho
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>>71053963
That's too cute, also makes the movie much sadder, I didn't like it very much.
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>>71058430
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>>71058430

That's some delicious brown girl.
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>>71058145
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>>71057930
>>71058386
>>71058479
My d/ic/k is fully erect
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>>71049511
I told him he should probably stay away from Spider-Gwen on paheal over twitter
But he never got back to me.
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>>71058454
>HER
LOL
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>>71052626
Better than 50,000 post about the same topic
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>>71058583
Jesus christ you crippled him in a corner
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>>71048434
I hope more people in the comic, cartoon, movie, videogame, hell every industry takes Cho as an example and acts like him. If they do the SJW movement will be grounded into powder underfoot.
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>>71058479
What good is having it if it isn't shared?
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>>71058430
I'd mess all over her Texas.
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>>71049511
>>71058583
oh no bad thing exists that dont even affect me in any way

how will i function normally from now on!
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>>71058608
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>>71058665
Thank you based anon, We are now awesome internet friends
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>>71057166
>this tired arguement
You're not going to accomplish anything by howling like a bunch of retards.
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>>71058544
I've got tons, both muscled and not
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Can some anon do me a solid and post this infamous cover please.
I would like to save the based Cho art on my phone for a wallpaper.

Thanks in advance,
It would be greatly appreciated
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Yummy tummies
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>>71058470
Simple. McKelvie forgot to look in the mirror.

For all the TED Talks and articles and blog editorials these people write, they never seem to count themselves as part of the problem. They're white. They're upper-middle class. A hell of a lot of them are straight and male.. They're the devil they're damning. They take up jobs in their industries just like the "problematic" elements do. And what are they doing to fix the problem? Saying everyone else is the problem. They're not mentoring new and underrepresented talents; they're hiring their equally white and affluent buddies. They're CERTAINLY not giving their positions jobs up for women or people of color.

Even if everything they're saying is true, all that it really means is that we need to get rid of them!

So they're armchair hypocrites that are more demonstrative of the problems they're whining about at absolute best
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>>71058757
You guys are abusing the sticky!
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>>71058549
Ugh, I hate to admit it, but I'd fuck /mlp/-tan. I really like that chubb belly.
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>>71054799
God bless Felicia

>>71049518
And sawyer
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BASED CHO
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>>71058787

Good points but 1. we don't know everything they do, so they could be doing shit to get more diversity in creators and 2. adding and diversifying the current slate of comics isn't nothing.
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>>71056341
>people still think this.

People forget some of the more crazier feminists come from canada,and that sjw shit already has a foothold in the UK and sweden.
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When can I expect a, "If you see this image while scrolling you have been visited by Based Cho" picture?
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>>71058776
those hips, they are what this website needs more of

>>71058789
Not at all anon, simply discussing the female form and how it is portrayed with real world examples.
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>>71056341
>tfw SJWs will never touch the caribbean

feels good
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30 chenbux on cho getting fired

i absolutely love the guy but i doubt hes getting away from this unscathed
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>>71058771
over here
http://i.4cdn.org/co/1428531381426.jpg
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>>71058849
>Good points but 1. we don't know everything they do
Do you really, truly think they wouldn't be bragging about it if they were actually doing something other than talking about it?
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He is being kind of hardheaded without any real reason and needs to grow up. Obviously drawing a controversial pose with the name recognition he has is going to be... controversial. so him pretending that's not the case is straight up lying on his part.
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>>71058796
nothing wrong with that anon, you want to fuck a girl, not a horse. Though I'm all out of mlp-tan, so have some x who could use a bit more chub
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>>71058916
nothing is gonna happen and it doesn't matter because he makes his own comics
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>Sticky

That's not going to stop idiots making duplicate threads.
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>>71048434
Based Cho
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>>71058724
over 9k posts in the mary sue comment sections and nobody knows who this trans person is.
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>>71058950
>Controversial pose

Says who, the fucking Mary Sue?
What kind of warped reality we exist where drawning a character in a particular pose draws flack from people anyway?

Cho art wasn't even a cover or anything like that.
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>>71058939

Fuck, you got me good there
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>>71058916
>Getting fired over Twitter drama
I wish. Then we'd all be free from Cameron Stewart.
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>>71058958
>>71058796
YES.
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>>71058950
Except he's not saying the piece isn't controversial. He's saying the controversy is stupid and over something intensely inconsequential.

So, you know, kindly fuck off.
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>>71059003
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>>71058916
What, is he going to fire himself?
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>stickied

Wow, I'm actually impressed, mods.

This is how controversies should be handled. I'll hold off on calling you faggots for today.
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>>71058979
None of us visit Mary Sue, anon.
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>>71059034
He shuld have been fired awhile ago, dude is a dick to his fans and has such a fucking ego
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>>71058916
Cho doesn't even need Marvel, it's just extra money to him. He wouldn't give a fuck if they didn't want to work with him anymore.
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>>71059076
I'm just cynical enough that there's a voice in the back of my head saying that this thread may be a honey trap and tomorrow everyone that has posted in it will be banned in order to make the board a safe space.

Because why the fuck would anything nice ever happen?
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>>71049344
I would love to see the court case that evolves from this. Imagine if Judge Judy as to deal with this.
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>>71059082
me neither till today. that place is creepy
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>>71058916
FREELANCER
FREELANCER
FREELANCER
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>>71059014

Here's another fanart of the pose. This time Mania.
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>>71058959
>>71059034
>>71059054
when i say unscathed

i meant that in all forms possible
not just financially

i can imagine some idiot will probably cross some lines and start physically harassing him
i mean twitter is full of people who endlessly bitch but do nothing about it
but someone actually doing something is still a possibility
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>>71058916
Please Cho has his own comics and I won't be surprised if he jumps to DC, IDW, or whoever else. I am sure a lot of companies would pay well to get a few issues out of him
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>>71049775
>crazy MRA and Gamergaters are holding up Cho as "one of them" when in actuality, he's just not kowtowing to kneejerk internet bullshit.

But that's one of the core reasons why GG came to be. Resisting social justice narratives in media.

But I'm not sure where you're pulling the "MRA" shit from. I suggest you refrain from namecalling when it's uncalled for.
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>>71049344

PLEASE Cho, PLEASE reply:

>*you're
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>>71059153
Good work
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>>71051907

If you think the point of this isn't "Banning salary negotiations" rather than "Striking a blow for equality" stop huffing paint. She gets to drive down the cost of labor and get praised for it? Win win. Mark my words, next she'll be talking about how workplace diversity counts as a benefit and that justifies across the board lower salaries.
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>>71059153
Thanks anon, I had a good chuckle
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At least there's someone left in the comic industry who isn't a gigantic coward.
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>got banned last week for vaguely mentioning goopygoob
>meanwhile ITT everyone keeps posting the same internet war bullshit without consequences

FUCK

YOU

FUCK

REDWOOD

FUCK

MODS
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>>71059153
>Had to cross link it because no one is going to see it

;_; Mania pls
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>>71059045
>Except he's not saying the piece isn't controversial. He's saying the controversy is stupid and over something intensely inconsequential.

The controversy isn't stupid it's merely problematic because of the influx of all the new fans, now that comic books have come into the mainstream again... you're going to have to adjust to the new paradigm. All that means is simply being aware of all the new attention that the media, movies, and ever increasing new demographics that are now all the more present in comic book fandom.
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>>71051217
I've seen that image a number of times, and I have no idea who that guy next to McKelvie's comment is. Is that supposed to be him, or am I misreading it? This is McKelvie.

On the subject of Cho's illustrations, I have no issue with them at all. The problem for me, at least, with Manara's version was that Spider-Woman's ass was too high in the air, emphasizing her canyon-esque buttcrack, and the Micheal Jackson face. Her left shoulder was a bit screwy, too. Cho's version has much better anatomy, and if anything is less sexualized than Manara's. It's better art, and about as sexualized as the average Spider-Man pose. Cho's response isn't exactly mature, but the people complaining are over-sensitive morons. I don't see how it's a slap in the face of female readers. Didn't bother me, anyway. It's nice art. Cho's a good artist.
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>>71059159
God, I wish someone would try to fight him in real life over a doodle he posted on his blog. It would be the most pathetic thing ever and it might even be great enough to show the comic industry what bad news SJWs are once and for all.
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>>71059249

It's a picture of Kieron Gillan for some reason.
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It really speaks volumes when Cho can't draw on his own blog without being hounded by authoritarian bigots.

These people constantly say they're not here to take away or censor things they don't like, but time and time again their actions do the complete opposite.

The truth is that they are out to take away your comics.

They want YOU to change or die. YOU.
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>>71049775
at best the anti-gg will label him as gamergate before gg themselves treat him as "one of them"
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>>71059037
Why are you doing this to me.
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>>71059240

>implying the mods are consistent

I can live with them being shitty only if they're consistently shitty, but they can't even do that right!
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>>71059076
First thing I thought when I got here. A+ job, whoever stickied this.
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>>71059240
>pic
That boy aint western
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>>71059290
Just embrace it.
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>>71059240
redwood isn't even a mod or a janitor
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>>71059037
i want more

where can i get more
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>>71059037
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I think a lot of the people who have a superficial interest in comics, the ones who are like "cater to me! " are finally starting to dislike comics again.
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>>71059268
>Face me, Cho!
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>>71057165
I agree, but these arguements will always happen because people are so braindead that they cant separate art/artist, go into a fugue state if its not catering directly to them and also they almost never read the shit they are screaming about.

Then again, these are your lowest common denominator superhero fans here. The people who are the worst are the leftist extreme people and the comic equivalent of #GG guys, real "not muh" types.

While I totally understand that your anger is mostly from seeing more bitching about comics than stuff pertaining to comics, but you gotta be careful to avoid the whole "you have no right to complain thing." I get that most people dislike the girl Thor series because its kinda shit, but the reason why the whole feminist angle is brought up so much is because the people who keep bringing up that angle are the mouthbreathers that unironically call it Whor and the hyper-tumblrites. They dont give a shit abut the comics, they just love having a new angle to spew out the same old shit.
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>>71059037
Why is mlp-tan such a slut?
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>>71059381
i hope for nothing more
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>>71059240

I thought that was a /fit/ Bobby Hill from the thumbnail.
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>>71058139
As a white, cis male I have a little difficulty dealing with the stupid arguments that a lot of SJW type people put up. I usually just ignore the ones I can't argue with, and the ones I actually know I debate with.
Unless I'm drunk, in which case it turns into "We can sit here and try to fix all the worlds problems, or we can decide who buys the next round"
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>>71059325
But the pain is that I'll never have a girl with a cute gut and chub.

She is like the perfect mix of gross and qt that I love.
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if gamergate was any good they'd get Cho hired to do vidya art.
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>>71050565
>I really could give a shit
>wouldn't even of noticed
>One who he drew a beautiful rendition of Katniss Everdeen for her Birthday

This fucking grammar.
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This is the most smile-inducing thread I have encountered since the return of cockmongler.

*wonders* .... *googles*

That thread was in 2008.

Shit I'm old.
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>>71048434
That's cool.
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>>71059343
On the Board-tan booru.
This one is too lewd for /co/.
So lewd for /co/ that even posting the censored version got me banned:
http://shimmie.4chanhouse.org/index.php?q=/image/5044.jpg

>>71059399
/mlp/ the board loves attention from any other board. Attention WHORE. Emphasis on whore.
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>>71059286
>The truth is that they are out to take away your comics.

You are sounding like a fucking baby holy shit.
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>>71059427
>*wonders* .... *googles*
Please *consider suicide*
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>>71059325
>party in my pinkie pie
so fucking lewd
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>>71059413
Is this really a GG thing or have the puritans just gone too far in all forms of media?

Between this and the Hugo Awards, I think it's just the pendulum swinging the other way finally.
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>>71059427
>*wonders* .... *googles*
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>>71059383
>I WILL DROWN AND MURDER YOUR CHILDREN IN COLD BLOOD
>FACE ME CHO!
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>>71059392
>the reason why the whole feminist angle is brought up so much is because the people who keep bringing up that angle are the mouthbreathers that unironically call it Whor

I know right? It's not like the writer hamfistedly hammered that angle in, no siree. Not at all.

>also
>avatarfagging with wraslin

Faggot
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>>71059448
>that dfc with booty
worth the bars
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>>71059272
I thought it might be; he looks older, though. Guess it's the beard. I'm not to seeing him like that. Why have Gillen there instead of McKelvie, though? They're friends, but they're not the same person. What point does it prove? Either way, he's still a white guy. The point isn't invalidated, but it's odd to use a photo of another person.
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>>71059456
If that wasn't the case, then why are they chasing after Cho? Artists aren't allowed to draw cheesecake in their own blogs?

And what flimsy excuse did they use this time? "Gwen is underaged, p-please believe me"? Come the fuck on, dude.
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>>71059399
Im not suprised that mlp dude is doing the rape.
But goddamn my dick
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>>71059484
>Jylenhaal
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>>71059448
>Emphasis on whore.
>You will never make mlp-tan beg for your dick
>You will never see mlp-tan in the manara pose
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>>71058470
There's two specific and unavoidable problems with his statement. First is that it's objectively wrong.

Second is that it's racist, patronizing and insulting to both the readers and creators. Can you imagine him calling out Jewish people in media, who are overrepresented in the 4 digit percentile? Calling out anime for making Japanese people?

>>71058849
Lets examine your statement. I'm not attempting to criticize you, just expose some assumptions.

> 2. adding and diversifying the current slate of comics isn't nothing.

Separate diversity of products offered, with diversity of creators, with diversity of audience for a moment.

The absolute overwhelming majority of comic book creators are middle to upper class liberals, mostly in new york. Mostly white, mostly male. Throw in cartoon makers/ movie makers, and you can add Los angeles liberals and some asians in as well.

The perspective he and his ilk are pushing has been the overwhelming dominant viewpoint since at least the creation of the comics code.

And let's be specific. This is rich, liberal, urban america speaking. This shit doesn't work the same in Japan or Europe.

And attempting to boot out perspectives that disagree with him is supposed to increase diversity?
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>>71059448
ah shit

i forgot about chanhouse
i even participated in that mod-tan shit a while ago

thanks
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>>71059034
Mate, people have been getting fired thanks to twitter. It's usually the wrong type of people getting fired though.
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>Gamergate singlehandedly made it impossible to talk about games on the internet without a shitstorm happening and MRA/tumblr fucks preventing any conversation
>now its happening to comics too

God damn it I fucking hate nerd culture, I hate it so fucking much.
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>>71059139
It's a Gawker subsidiary, and they all are kinda creepy. They decry shit like this and then stalk real-life celebrities.
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>>71059543
Not if I can help it.
I have livesmutanon as a contact.

>>71059536
The dude is /co/

Also another thing dis.4chanhouse.org/comic/src/140771684638.png
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>>71059383
>>71059490
And here I thought Greg Costikyan overreacted.
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>>71059573
It sucks bro. It really sucks.
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>>71059573
Yes, everyone is dumb except for you.

Boogeymen are everywhere! Only yoooooooou are saaaaane!
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>>71059573
Don't be such a pathetic little shit and take your avatarfagging ass out of this thread, problem solved. Dumb cunt.
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>>71059490
That guy has tiny eyes like Albert Fish or Ed Gein
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>>71059573
>thinking it's impossible to discuss videogames on the internet without SJW/MRA shit
Lurk more and you'll find the oasis.
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>>71059573
>>71059587
you guys are baby back bitches
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>>71059536
Oreimo starring /co/ and mlp when?

>>71059573
>now its happening to comics too
It's not though, Cho didn't engage them, he told them to fuck off
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>>71059249
So again, to keep it in perspective. The more extreme claims about Manara weren't primarily that the picture was of low quality. The claim was that his previous euro works mean that he supports rape culture, and that his work suppresses women in comics.
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>>71053444

So this is how far we've fallen, huh? Fucking normies, I swear.
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>>71059003
Hey I thought the cover was kinda funny, but him being a jerk about it in his response kinda lost all the good will points he had going on.
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>>71059535
They aren't going to break his fucking hands dude. Cheesecake will always exist, you are caught up in hype.
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>>71059573
Don't worry Dave, it'll die soon, Patton Oswalt said so.
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>>71059607
How defensive.
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>>71059392
What anger? It's mild annoyance at best, much like anyone would feel when dealing with these people in person.

First off, hi there Mr. Misrepresents arguments. No one is talking about a lack of right to complain. Just like I said in my post, it's about people who aren't invested and just bitch about things not aimed at them. That's isn't "Can't complain" it's "Learn what the hell you're talking about before mouthing off." which is something no one involved in this shit has ever learned.

To top it off, the GG crew isn't "not muh" types either. In both regards you have a bunch of people who a certain thing doesn't cater to...who then decide to try to change said thing. Not get things they want in ADDITION to what is already there, but change shit so it's more to their liking. That's a dick move. You don't go into a paintball game then bitch about how it should be less violent and it's too physically oriented so it's ablist. You instead play something that is not those things that you clearly dislike!

Also, who cares if they call it Whor ironically. That would mean more to me if it wasn't essentially accurate. Marvel has the most bloody tabula rasa character and they're pimping that shit like it's going out of style. Look at this chick be Thor, but better. Watch her champion causes that are popular without actively having anything of value to say. Gaze on as she defeats mighty villains made of staw...and also actual villains that are written out of character...thought that last bit may actually just be Marvel being Marvel.

The point is, the new Thor is essentially a whore. She has no name, no personality, is the best of the best, and she's got that girrrrllll power. She's the current day equivalent of those asinine heroes from the 90's with "blood" in their names, too many pouches, guns with terrible perspective, and no feet. They were whores then, and she's just carrying on the proud tradition.
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>>71059583
today anon, you are the hero
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>>71053444
>teenager

Does anyone actually read fucking comics? Anyone at all?
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>>71059649
But they can get people fired. All it takes is a few dozen hysterical phone calls.

Outragists are a blight and serve no constructive purpose.
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>When they went after lolicon, /co/ said nothing, for /co/ was not lolicon.
>When they went after DFC, /co/ said nothing, because /co/ likes big breasts.
>When they started deleting Gamergate, /co/ said nothing, because /co/ doesn't play games and it's off-topic.
>When they started going after Frank Cho, /co/ said OH FUCK NO I believe in freedom of speech!

This is about the average level of sincerity I see. It only becomes a problem when it affects your fetish. I wish you all hadn't waited.

On a side note, I also wish more kids knew who Anthony P. Griffin is.
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>>71059608
>avatarfagging

It's a reaction image not an avatar. You fucking newfags are the worst.
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>>71053444
fair assumption

i could see people being weirder out if some teenage character is sexualized

but gwen aint a teenager though so that argument doesnt work in this situation
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>>71056820
Sauce on anime preggo sex?
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>>71059659
Not defensive, dismissive.

If you're so truly above it all, go away.
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>>71059577
gawker

-case closed shoved in incinerator -
thanks
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>>71059680
>Outragists

i prefer calling them the perpetually offended
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>>71053444

>Spider-Gwen

>teenager

You must be one of those dumbfuck hispter casual "tumblr fans" that Gail Simone was bitching about.
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>>71059685
Oh fuck off you
>>71056910
>>71059392
>>71059573
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>>71053444
She's at least 18 and even if 18 year olds are teenagers they're still legal. Learn to deal with it.
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>>71059573
>Gamergate singlehandedly made it impossible to talk about games on the internet without a shitstorm happening
Yeah sure OK. Meanwhile I've been able to do both. If you truly want it to stop, pick a side and make sure they win while crushing any resistance.
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>>71059682
You're right, we should have started talking about "the problem" earlier. After all, this is /co/ - Everything Under The Goddamed Sun Except For Comics And Cartoons.
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>>71058403

Not all liberals are tumblrites just like not all conservatives are Westboro Church funeral-picketers.

Horseshoe theory. Look it up.
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>>71059490
fite me
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>>71059468
They simply became too insufferable to bear.

GG was or is mostly against gaming media, not the games itself. Games that can be said to pander to SJWs are really a tiny segment of the market. However, gaming media is almost entirely made of people who seem bored of this kind of entertainment, and so they mindlessly regurgitate whatever they were told in college instead of trying to come up with actual criticism. And they end up sounding like Wertham or Jack Thompson.

Now give it a scandal or two, an attempt to antagonize a large part of the core audience, and you end up with a shitstorm.

Comic books these days are mostly targeted towards tumblr webcomic audience while using angry nerds as controversy fuel whenever the publishers need to boost the sales by introducing some status quo change. If it continues like this, today's sjws will be future angry nerds Marvel will shit on to generate buzz and ramp up sales because they will be the ones sperging out, yet buying the content.
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>>71059657
>Morrison and Oswalt both see pop/nerd culture reaching critical mass
>at the same time

I cant wait for our Ragnarok so I can go down with the ship when the bubble bursts.
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>>71059752
>only one person has wrestler reaction gifs
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>>71059766
Woops meant *are teenagers.
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>>71053444
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>>71059809
Nah but all those pathetic ass opinions seem to line up perfectly.
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>>71055242
I'd let her crush my patriarchy with those thighs any time.
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>>71059657
>>71059800

Source? I wanna read what he said.
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>>71059809
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>>71059468
>Is this really a GG thing or have the puritans just gone too far in all forms of media?
Puritans in all forms. It's only hitting video games and comics more recently, but Comedians, TV, and radio have been suffering for a long time. Sam Kinison had a good point about all these groups "fighting" for whatever cause they take up in order to prevent hurt feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbSj6YTVVY
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>>71059798
>>71059798
Is this nigga serious
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>>71059242
Yeah hopefully we can get past these growing pains so we can be as perverted and sexualized as all other media.
Granted more vocal aspects of the new audience don't want this.

But really Cho made some fan art put it on HIS site didn't call anyone out .
It's stupid that this became a controversy. It was stupid when Manara became a controversy too but at least that was an actual published variant and not what basically amounts to fan art.

>>71059657
We can only hope, people always tend to get tired of this type schtick.
I'm not sure if it actually dies down or if they just focus on specific complainers and a weaker group of complainers can fill the vaccuum that they left.
For instance everyone remembers the 90s for the Conservative Moral Guardians like Jack Thompson. Was there ever a period there was no outrage culture or just periods we were so preoccupied with one group becoming a total joke that we didn't realize the other was gaining power. Now while anyone who Whinges about MUH CHRISTIAN VALUES is laughed out of the room, you can get further with wanting to enforce more Socially progressive morality.
I really hope in a few years we're not just dealing with pushing off whatever group we're not recognizing right now.
Not to mention people like Chris Rock and even fucking George Carlin before he died noticed things were getting too PC.
>>71059679
She might be. She's College Aged but that could be anywhere from 17 and up.
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When will this end?

I hate this fight against the "SJW's" and tumblr.

Dont get me wrong. I hate how vocal and influential they've become now, but these monthly internet wars have gotten old. Dealing with Bronies was more bearable than the discussions and arguments centered around SJW's and political correctness every day of the week.
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>>71059859
I bet your pathetic ass lines up perfectly with my dick, newfriend
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>>71059809
im the only person who uses chen reaction images in /co/
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>>71052818
Fuck, i have to draw that shit.
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>>71050565
>>71055000
>>71055117
Wait, wait, wait. Robbi is STRAIGHT?
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>>71059926
>She might be. She's College Aged but that could be anywhere from 17 and up.

This is a dumb argument that has been going on for too long now so stop. "She might be" isn't an argument so just stop.
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>>71059783
>>71059937
The left are beginning to call out their crazies now.

The term "SJW" is becoming more mainstream thanks to constant shitstorms brought on by them, which will ultimately leading to Tea Party-tier expulsion. They will be de-fanged and exiled to the pits of endless ridicule, given time.

Extremism, right or left, is never a long term solution.
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>>71059937
It ends when you leave 4chan but
Oh wait
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>>71059777

You don't have to talk about everything or like everything. I'm just surprised that free speech is suddenly an important topic to one of the more heavily-moderated boards.
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>>71057803
>Can Remender and Cho just write the tumblr revenge comic and publish it through Image?
I would buy that based on the team alone. I'm actually kind of sad this won't be a thing now, Uncanny Avengers Annual 1 showed that Remender can do some funny as hell satire.
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>>71050565
if you havent been following the news behind the sjw drama

reddit mods are sjws
ex-reddit mods confirmed this
and reddit users are aware of their shit

even people who buy that reddit gold thing and financially support the site want them to fuck off their site
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>>71059926

>Gwen's age

See >>71049686

Gwen's old enough to be hanging out in a bar, which no one really thought was strange other than thinking she was a few sheets to the wind.

Drinking age in Murika is 21, so she's at least that old.

So I take it most of these moral panic dipshits don't actually read the comic.
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>>71060141
But it FEELS like she's underaged!

Can't you see?!
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>>71048434
It'd actually be better if he addressed non-issue because now he just looks like an asshole. Which is fine, he has the right to be an asshole, but it's much better to help people understand your line of thinking rather than just shutting them out and allowing them to be right about everything they say about you.
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>>71059937
it wont

you either join them, fight them or ignore them

ignoring them is really hard nowadays because theyre so fucking infectious
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>>71059940
Go on post a screencap proving those posts aren't you then.
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>>71060141
You don't get it!
FRANK CASTLE CALLED HER A GIRL!
THEREFORE SHE CAN'T BE AN ADULT!
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>>71059937
The fact that you used "SJW" and tumblr in a derogatory manner already puts you in a certain camp in their eyes.

Welcome to the MRA club, friend.
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>>71060183
Ignoring them is easy. It's not like we're engaging them when we read and post in threads like these and twitter is all the way over there. Just talk about something else or read comics. God damn.
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>>71059859
how were they pathetic?

And if you are the guy who wrote >>71059661 I think I misunderstood the previous post for more an angle vitriolic.
I just feel that the debate is too skewed away from the actual content, even between what we are posting now.
You are talking about the comic itself (and I agree it is soulless), and I agree that this is just another link in the chain of Marvel trying to seem hipwithout hurting their bottom line, its basic Stan Lee carny shit.
But at the same time, despite the entire nerd community KNOWING that Marvel pulls this shit all the time they get conned anyway and either buy into the shallow narrative or give them free publicity by freaking out. Its hardly about whats in the actual meat of the book but the idea of it in peoples minds.
They could have introduced fucking Valkyr as a replacement and nobody would have cared because she has existed for decades and isn't Thor, the only people who give a shit are people who dont read comics or will always buy comics because they are slaves to the brand.

That kind of mixup in terms of ideology/content makes it really hard to talk about these books at all, possibly because they are made to be talked about instead of actually read.


>>71059937
It never ends, and also this shit is daily.
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>>71050565
>I never knew Reddit was this divisive on shit like this.
Reddit is really big anon, 6 times bigger than 4chan if I recall correctly (talking about the userbase).
>>71051278
I get a highly up voted reddit thread about that when I googled her though?
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>>71060166
>feels
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>>71060175
A bunch of little bitches call Cho a misogynist for a doodle he made, but when he decides to mock and deride them for the petty nobodies they are, HE'S the asshole?

Alright.
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>>71060185
Looks like (you) caught me
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>>71060236
This is true. Calling people SJWs makes you look biased as fuck in most situations. Like someone stating distaste for bodacious comic book tittays isn't automatically an SJW.
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>>71048434
Beautiful, wonderful. It gives me S for the future.
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>>71060029
I'm just saying people are acting so sure when comic ages have always been ambiguous horseshit.
>>71060197
To be fair that doesn't mean dick either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_44L4Ffff9w#t=0
>>71060036
Is SJW really being used as an insult to them or an insult to people who hate them?
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>>71059875
http://www.wired.com/2010/12/ff_angrynerd_geekculture/all/

He's basically blue-skyin' it near the end, but the general sentiment is the same.
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>MARVELDELPHIA
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>>71060369
Recent controversies has brought the term "SJW" into the mainstream. There's no turning back from that point.
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>>71060369
>I'm just saying people are acting so sure when comic ages have always been ambiguous horseshit.

And I'm just saying "She might be" isn't an argument. The twink I'm banging "might be" 17 but he goes to the same college classes as me so why would anyone give a fuck except so they can look morally superior?
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>>71052659
So it's a sticky about..what, exactly?

It's not important, nobody died, there's no big movie news or comic news, it's just people whining about SJWs, which at this point is the only thing more annoying than SJWs.
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>>71060272
So, basically, this is all the fault of marks & smarks. I fucking knew it!
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Just do a pic of Gwen checking out Peter's ass and we're all good.
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>>71060314
>looks like an asshole

And then I said

>be an asshole
Shit!

What I'm trying to say is when you're misunderstood you could do something other than remaining misunderstood out of spite. And doing things out of spite makes you an asshole. In this case a lovable asshole.
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>>71060439
But SJWs are not even close to being politically correct. They can and are often just as racist/sexist/homophobic as the people they hate. They say that gays are sexist because they won't fuck women, the call black people who don't agree with them House Niggers and chew out women and pretty much anyone who disagrees with them with the appropriate derogatory remarks.
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>>71060439

This. It's apart of the internet vernacular and, thus, will eventually make it into actual conversation.

Memes do it all the time. Granted, you're talking about a cat with a grump face but we're also talking about a subject people are divided on.

For a while it was blamed on constant bitching about these progressive types that made them popular enough for people to listen. The thing is, once they gain ground to voice their opinions and make villains of their opposition, the more their voices will be heard in kind.

Anyway, yeah, it'll become a mainstream sentiment eventually.
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>>71059800
good

if sjw "academia" starts labeling this culture as unsafe then im all for it
i really hope the perpetually offended will go find some other shit to be offended with

i really hope they go for hollywood more
because them going after videogames just popularized the term "sjw" more into the negative light
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>>71060497

It's a bitching containment thread. While what Cho did was pretty fucking sweet this thread is more about containing the MUH TUMBLR SJW BOOGYWOMEN TRYIN TO TAKE AWAY MUH COMICS bullshit that's been building up on /co/.
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>>71053541
>Actually conservatives don't want people having children out of wedlock

They also have an irrational fear of abortion and women using birth control.
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>>71060369
She isn't underage.

It wasn't an argument, it was a desperate attempt to censor Cho. Read between the lines, m8
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>>71060439
Oh wow this is real, I thought it was just a shoop
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>>71060508
That just comes off as cheeky.
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>>71049780

#ChosBeforeHoes
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>>71060541

And that's fine. Whenever people talk a big game they don't back up it, it blows up in their face eventually.

The more and more this narrative exists and is perpetuated by dishonest people who routinely make mistakes the more assuredly it'll pass. All of these things eventually do.
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>>71060541
Don't forget the "Internalised-Blank" horseshit that allows them to maintain their sense of moral superiority, whilst completely dismissing the opinions of people who disagree with them.
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>>71060522
>What I'm trying to say is when you're misunderstood you could do something other than remaining misunderstood out of spite. And doing things out of spite makes you an asshole.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I feel like 90% of these crazy-ass Twitter spats wouldn't exist if people would take this to heart. Especially if they'd recognize this idea and just cool off, instead of hate-buying and trying to "ironically" embody every suspicion that their detractors hold about them.
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>>71048434
Based cho
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>>71060175
You can't reason with people who have abandoned logic.
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>>71060272
No, Trust me, you'll know if it's me. I'm incapable of posting if it isn't a giant wall of text. It's a legit medical condition.

...Okay, so I'm not seeing the point here. What you wrote was my point. The damn thing is a cash grab, the whore-iest of whore books just like every even they bloody do, so why any ire at people using Whore unironically?

That as an aside, what's the issue in general? What you said earlier implied that comic fans are in the wrong. In regards to the getting riled up over nothing, yeah, that's on them. The other shit isn't.

The rabble-rousers, the controversy slingers, the general "We're white and affluent so we can totally tell you why all you white/cis/het but not affluent people are wrong." crowd, those are the people that all this shit should come down on. They spark controversy over nothing while also managing to pigeonhole debate into something wholly unrelated to any of the issues brought up by those involved. They're like Jack Thompson and Fredric Wertham, but somehow more insufferable, smug, and with even LESS of a point.
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>>71060541
>But SJWs are not even close to being politically correct. They can and are often just as racist/sexist/homophobic as the people they hate. They say that gays are sexist because they won't fuck women, the call black people who don't agree with them House Niggers and chew out women and pretty much anyone who disagrees with them with the appropriate derogatory remarks.

To honestly believe this you have to think that SJWs are a hivemind of "those fuckers". It's like saying that Christians are hateful because some people do mean things in the name of religion.
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>>71060541
Their collective thrashing will take political correctness down with them.

Either way, it's their fault for taking it too far.
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>>71059584
Every time I think this lolercoaster has come to a stop, Mr Bones gives it another shove.

>>71060272
So...we need to bring signs to the next Comicon demanding that Bendis pull a montreal screwbjob on, let's say, Immonem for some heat for a hard working midcarder who needs the boost?
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>>71060647
Perhaps not a hivemind, but they definitely exhibit cult behavior.
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>>71060647
>To honestly believe this you have to think that SJWs are a hivemind of "those fuckers"
You do know SJW is a term used to refer specifically to those kinds of people right? You have feminists, civil rights activist, gay rights activist and SJWs who hijack those moments for the attention.
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>>71060591
>he's a professional liberal douchebag just for being athiest

Go back to sucking christtits, southerner.
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>>71060628
"I'm sharing something fun for my male and lesbian fans who I thought would like this." is such a short and easy thing to throw out, and the more they tried to rage against such a benign statement the worse they'd look.
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>>71060668
which Immomen
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>>71057018
'no'
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>>71059448
Why does [s4s]-tan get the best art
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>>71060674

Same deal with the RONPAUL2012 hivemind and the WHITEPRIDEWORLDWIDE hivemind.

They're radicals who want people to mindlessly spout their bullshit mantra so they can get more followers. That's what they do. Only now there's a strong left-wing version of it when in the recent past it's been mostly right-wing shit.
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>>71060699
>Richard Dawkins
>just an atheist
homeboy is the forefather of aggressive atheism
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>>71060733
Too many Lolicons.
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>>71059926
>Yeah hopefully we can get past these growing pains so we can be as perverted and sexualized as all other media.
Granted more vocal aspects of the new audience don't want this.

Well yeah, sexuality in comics wouldn't be such a big deal if people, artist included, would just admit that it's there and somewhat overused. Frank Cho's joke was all well and good, but his comment about what transpired really rubbed people the wrong way, because he seems to have no idea why people have gotten offended; instead, he calls his detractors humorless and banal without even trying to understand where they are coming from.

Even with all that said: he is a cheesecake artist and this is most likely great PR for his artwork, so why in the hell wouldn't he defend himself, whilst at the very same time be controversial. It's not a though he'll be known for anything else besides drawing ultra hot super babes, that's kinda why he's hired most of the time.

I'll end on this though, this won't be the last time something like this happens. Comic book writers and artist alike really need to vet some of their retorts with an agent or publicist, before they hit enter and let their comment fly into the internet.

It would really save us all a lot of time.
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>>71060647

"hivemind," cult, same difference.

The problem being that you're equating SJWs with "Christians," whereas it's more like equating SJWs with the Westboro Baptist Church.

"Progressives" and feminists and gay rights activists and what not would be the proper analogy to Christians, and the SJW segment the hateful WBC cunts.
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>>71060647
The term "SJW" didn't start out as a synonym for activists - it was exclusively about the crazy fuckers, the Mary Whitehouses and Joe McCarthys of the world. Hell, that's how we ended up with Social Justice Sally. There's no thing as a rational SJW, or at least there wasn't until people started wearing it as a badge of honor. It's just a sign of the times that the term got used so much that it got a new, ridiculously broad meaning.
Personally, I want the old meaning to come back in style.
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>>71060733
Perks of being a sexy loli.
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>>71059573
It already happened to comics back in the 50's. We lost. It led to the Comics Code Authority which kept comics well censored for over half a century.
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>>71060783
That is actually a good way to sum it up.
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>>71060771
>Comic book writers and artist alike really need to vet some of their retorts with an agent or publicist, before they hit enter and let their comment fly into the internet.

Why? Let the artists speak, let the puritans get offended. No mediators to dull the message.

Let it spill out into the streets!
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>>71049344
>actually threatening Cho

Why don't we email Marvel about this? This is a legit threat he could get thrown out for.
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>>71059242
>The controversy isn't stupid
It totally is. No one should be in uproar over a guy drawing a sexy picture.
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>>71060771

Dunno. "It's a joke" pretty much covered it for me because it was clearly a jab.

And see people like you are the problem. He knows he offended people with it. That was the point.

By ribbing for your reaction the others got a kick out of it.

"It's a joke" and people being "Humorless" is exactly what this is about. Sex and comedy go hand in hand. And not just the awkward process of it. A vibrant and very real part of the medium.

You can have one without the other, sure, but you're delusional if you really think he needed more or a better way to have said "Lighten up".

Maybe you should just lighten up. Maybe, just maybe, an artist does something to illicit a negative response so that the audience who is offended might learn a little something about how inconsequential this entire problem really is.
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>>71059242
>you're going to have to adjust to the new paradigm.
Why?
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>>71051828
>Stan signed it over Robbie's name. Robbie thinks he is more important than Stan Lee.

Well, at least we know who's soul will be getting leeched next so that Stan The Man can live for another winter.
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>>71050012
they will sue cause their feelings were hurt that's what the world has come to now. Instead of just learning to deal with things that upset you, you are told that you don't have to and that if something does upset you it the other person's fault for upsetting you and not just your problem
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>>71059242
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>>71060197
I hated that scene. So fucking hamfisted.
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>>71060747
How aggressive are we talking? I've seen videos of him and he's not angry atheist tier.
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>>71059242
>you're going to have to adjust to the new paradigm

Hmm, telling the CONSUMERS to change because they're problematic?

I've heard this before.
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>>71060771
>Sexuality in comics is overused
>In comics
>Not everything

They are selling a fucking product you delusional femanon why the hell would they not want to depict all the people as over sexualized perfect gods? People that think media should reflect what they feel are "realistic proportions" are idiots who don't realize that just because they don't look like that doesn't mean no one looks like that and they are showing the idealized versions of humans.
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>>71060783
The problem with this is that WBC is a formal name while SJW is one projected onto someone and suddenly ties them with people across twitter with similar thinking. One crazy states that titties should be banned from comics? That's an SJW. Someone less crazy but still stupid says that video games make people sexist? Now they're in the same camp. Now you think they want to ban things. It's just harmful and dumbs down the conversation to the point of where what one person believes actually doesn't matter, but what you project onto them does. You become them.
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>>71059242
Spider-man did those poses since the beginning and no one complained, why should we give Spider-woman a special treatment?

No seriously, why?
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>>71050464
she's a work of fiction she can't be a teenager
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>>71060973
actively a dick about religion
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>>71059086
What did Cameron do?
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>>71061011
>One crazy states that titties should be banned from comics? That's an SJW. Someone less crazy but still stupid says that video games make people sexist?
The later person is actually stupider then the other one for believing that video games cause sexism.
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>>71060973
Well, he was a big cornerstone of Atheism+ right?
Because you're right, he's actually a pretty calm guy if you're not talking religion, if slightly cutting at times. But Atheism+ was basically an attempt to turn atheism into a centralized organization, which I always thought was kinda funny because that's one of the biggest problems with religion.
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>>71060647
Dude, no. Because "SJW" is ALREADY a term for a subset of people within the greater social justice movement. It's not like saying Christians are hateful. It's like saying that the WBC is hateful. And that's fine.

And just like if you did that, the WBC (SJWs) are going to instead say that you're criticizing the idea and now the fact that they, as an individual subset, take it too far. That's why they're trying to "Reclaim" the term now.
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I want Frank Cho to do a Liberty Meadows version of that cover. .....with Dean.

>>71060036
>The left are beginning to call out their crazies now.
Even Bill Maher
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>>71051652
That pic did end up being 'shopped though, didn't it?
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>>71061086
He bans almost any fan that doesn't agree with him
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>>71054790
>brainwashed SJW cucks
>cucks

remember when this word wasn't appropriated by MRAs?
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>>71061173
So he is DC's Slott?
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>>71060647
To be fair SJW is sort of a derogatory term not a specific group like Christians or Democrats.
Though it IS an issue to assume anyone vaguely liberal is an SJW and not a specific type of Liberal
>>71060712
That's sexist and homophobic, who says straight women and gay guys can't enjoy this either? It's pretty nicely drawn, I'm not gay but man I love looking at some well executed beefcake. It's part of the reason why I like Coipel so much. His people are so sexy in all the right ways.
>>71060771
But my point was I don't think it's overused, at least not at this point. A lot of other industries are VERY comfortable displaying sexuality in anyway they wish.
And Cho is VERY open with the fact he likes boobs and shit.
And people were already rubbed wrong before he said anymore than "this is a nod to Milo" hell I haven't really seen much response since he released this actually.
I completely side with him in not getting why this became any kind of controversy, All he did was basically make fan art and posted it on his own site. People saying "oh what a douche" and moving on would make sense but to write up an article and make a deal about it doesn't really.
>>71061109
Or it could be like calling someone a bible thumper. There's a problem with it in that people have different degrees of what they consider this, I've seen Christians call obnoxious Christians Biblethumpers but I've also seen people consider ALL Christians Biblethumpers. So I don't really consider SJW good for anything other than an insult using it as an actual label is pointless since it means different things to different people.
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>>71061011
>Someone less crazy but still stupid says that video games make people sexist?

Ignoring a mountain of studies and science in favor for a "belief" puts you in the same category of crazy as the first person.

The objective is still censorship at the end of the day.
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>>71061144
Isn't Bill Maher more of a skeptical libertarian with the anti-medicine pro Iraq war stuff?
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>>71061011

They're both equally crazy, and neither wants "conversation," just affirmation of their warped worldview.

It's rather naive to believe these people are open to "debate."
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#comicsgate
i'm telling /v/
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>>71061212
Anyone with a clear brain and without a "us vs them" would know 4chan is the one who appropriated that word fucking months ago.
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>>71061252
>I'm not gay but man I love looking at some well executed beefcake
A few years ago, I'd have said you were crazy if you were to tell me that I'd have a folder full of picture of sexy comic men.
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>>71061329
/co/ and /fit/ are weird like that.
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>>71060842
>Why? Let the artists speak, let the puritans get offended. No mediators to dull the message.

It's just helpful to get another set of eyes on something you plan to release as an opinion, especially if you're a public figure of some sort. That doesn't mean you have to change the ideal of what's being said, but it at the very least may help purify your message some.

Then again, some people like chaos. lol
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>>71061092
First person probably believes comic book boobs cause something in order to want to ban it. I thought that was implied.

>>71061264
I don't know why you're replying to me as if I'm someone who actually believes that.

Criticism isn't always an attempt at censorship.
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>>71061011
>Someone less crazy but still stupid says that video games make people sexist?
How is that different from the guys that said playing Pokemon will lead to you worshipping the devil?
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>>71061252
>To be fair SJW is sort of a derogatory term not a specific group like Christians or Democrats.
>Though it IS an issue to assume anyone vaguely liberal is an SJW and not a specific type of Liberal
It's like assuming all Christians are bible thumping tea party assholes or that all Republicans support Ted Cruz.

They're the lunatic fringe that have grabbed the steering wheel of public debate. Assholes like these SJWs offended by everything ruin it for us sane and moderate liberals.
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>>71061218
a bit more picky, you should have seen him argue about his artist integrity when the batgirl cover was being banned, saying how it doesn't fit his book and it's style
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>>71061360
Mhm.
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>>71061366

>It's just helpful to get another set of eyes on something you plan to release as an opinion, especially if you're a public figure of some sort. That doesn't mean you have to change the ideal of what's being said, but it at the very least may help purify your message some.

Oh, you mean, like trying to police the tone of what is being presented? Like a tone police of some sort?
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>>71048748
This loser killed Kaine.
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>>71054272
i mentioned polygamy once to a lesbian I know who is all "marriage rights" and she said polygamy was immoral and wrong and should never be allowed cause it would ruin marriage i nearly fell over laughing
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>>71060964
To be honest, I don't think so.
The connotation was not that he thought she was a guy or anything. He was hunting Spider Woman.
I think what he expected was some kind of mutated freak. At least someone... older. Not someone who could be his daughter's best friend. A good-looking college-aged young woman.
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>mfw all this delicious SJW bullshit

>>71055313
Only comment I've seen him make about it was some aside in an AMA that was basically "please stop making Liz porn. Every time I see it, it's like stumbling into naked pictures of my daughter." That was the gist of it anyways. It didn't come off to me like he was pitching a fit, but that's mostly because he seems to be a pretty chill guy and tries to stay out of and above drama
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>>71061373
>Criticism isn't always an attempt at censorship.

Criticism based on a bogus "belief" that defies all facts and logic isn't criticism, it's preaching. And it should be treated as such.
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>>71061366
Here's the question you need to answer eventually.
Who's feelings matter, and why?

Because if it boils down to "this could offend someone somewhere", there's no end to that. Anyone can take offense to anything.
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>>71061390
>They're the lunatic fringe that have grabbed the steering wheel of public debate. Assholes like these SJWs offended by everything ruin it for us sane and moderate liberals.
And you have to live with that just like Muslims with terrorist and Feminist with feminazis, the damage is done. Is up to your group to make something to set yourself apart of the cancer, the public has no obligation to make a research just to know on what side you are when both are under the same flag.
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>>71061441
Honestly polygamy was bad because of all the other views the people who practiced it had, which led to it being a man and his slave wives. These days we would not have those issues
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>>71061292
People say a lot of stupid things and treating them all as equally crazy people who, though they say different things, are the same is rather retarded of you. I'm just saying that roping them together distracts from any issue that may be at hand and forces every other issue into a specific case.
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>>71061366
Hiding behind layers of corporate and PR speak is just facetious. Artists don't care for it.

If the message is abrasive and ruffles some feathers, then so be it.

The true fans will stay and the thin-skinned fair weather "fans" will find another artist to latch onto.
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>>71061269
the term you are looking for, when it comes to Maher, is "smug contrarian"

he'll take nearly any stance to be smug, or contrarian, or both.
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>>71061605
I agree, but that only works if everyone agrees to it.
And it's impossible to do that when you get a gang of miscreants going "You disagree with this one woman here? That makes you a misogynist that hates ALL women".

You want reasoned debate? Fix that shit.
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>>71061385
Devil worship is a specific act but sexism is a vague concept.
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>>71049344
>mfw Slott bridges Gwen in an upcoming issue to make Silk look better

That'd redeem literally all of his faggotry.
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>>71060889
We can be in an uproar over anything, but he is an artist known for kicking bee-hives, so this time it appears he's made some noise and people are listening. It was bound to happen sooner or later.

>>71060895
I'm as lightened up as they come; I simply find this topic very interesting. In the sense people want this topic to just be 'ok' and that's that! To me that's the most hilarious part of this entire scenario. It's never going to be ok, we're always going to find problems with sexuality and how it's represented. It's an inescapable truth.

>>71060902
The old adage, "adapt or die" comes to mind.

>>71060979
>Hmm, telling the CONSUMERS to change because they're problematic?

All consumers are problematic to another's product; to consume is to pick one item over the other. I suppose, you could have a positive view and simply suggest that times change and with that comes a new influx of costumers that'll have views that often conflict with your own.

>>71060989
I said sexuality is comics is overused, I didn't say that it should stop being used as a way to sell a product. The two aren't mutually exclusive; simply fostering an understanding of where and why they are overused helps quell some discussions that could otherwise be fruitless.
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>>71061454
>The connotation was not that he thought she was a guy or anything. He was hunting Spider Woman.

But that's what I mean. Its no mystery that Spider-WOMAN is female, but the scene is set to where "You're just a girl?!" is meant to be demeaning. It was absurd. He wasn't expecting what was essentially still a kid in his eyes.
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>>71051656
>Stan Lee
>own creation

The guy took credit for all of jack Kirby work and basically copied the superhero crap from what everyone else in the comic industry at the time were doing.

Big respect for the man for all the work hes done after all these years. But remember there's a reason some of the artists at DC designed a super villain after him.
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I think the saddest part about all this is how all those hypersensitive people act *EXACTLY* people think/say/know they will, when simply doing what he said would do everything they want to accomplish and then some.

Good show Cho. People like you get it and in fact help maintain the open forum that allows these mooks to whine so.
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>>71061547
I'm taking offense to your post right now!
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>>71061676
In the minds of fundamentalists it isn't a specific concept. When I was a kid, I was neighbors with a kid that wasn't allowed to watch The Magic Schoolbus or Sesame Street. The former because it promoted witchcraft, the latter because monsters were demonic.

Fundamentalist viewpoints don't allow for context or a lot of independent thought. And there are some sects of feminism that are the same.
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>>71061701
Consumers know what they want, you can't guilt or goad them into buying your product.
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>>71061588
I see Polygamy as having actual possible issues though.
Gay marriage seems more like changing a word but it'd work the same.
How would Polygamist Marriage Rights work? Must the same benefits go out to every spouse?
>>71061684
>Killing a decent character and derailing a character who just barely got over his bullshit further
Yeah sounds....great
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>>71061701
>The old adage, "adapt or die" comes to mind.
So why should I be the one to adapt? Why don't they? Why don't you?

Because you're more special and more important than me?
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>>71061731
>Gwen Stacy
>Jack Kirby
anon no
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>>71061605

And I'm saying if they're not open to logical debate, they shouldn't be treated with any sort of regard.

And if their response to debate is to deflect and attack with shaming tactics and veiled threats and what-not, then yes, they are crazy and should be lumped together and disregarded altogether.
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>>71061769
>Go outside
>Also, buy this game while you're out!

Sneak sneaky
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Spider-Gwen is his daughter?

we need a Butcha-U doujinshi of her
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>>71061477
So you assume that no one can criticize the use of sex appeal in anything without preaching? Anyone who dares states that something would be better with less sexualization can't do so in a critical manner?
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>>71061701
>The old adage, "adapt or die" comes to mind.
Since when a majority must adapt to a minority to begin with?
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>>71061061
I think it's amazing that 4chan of all places now thinks it's way over the line to mock people for believing in fairy tales
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>>71061881
>4chan is one person
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Doesn't a comics "journalist" have to be outed as a whore before comicgate can happen?

I'm not familiar with the exact process.
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>>71061852
Naw man we need Shindol on this.
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>>71061547
In the comic book industry there's simply no end to what someone can be offended by. That's the deal you kind of make by continuously buying a product despite the trouble it comes with. Since it's ever evolving the problems, errors, triumphs, and wonderful memories never end. The good comes along with the bad; for as long as you continue to be involved with the industry.
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>>71061816
This. Actual women who like comics/geek things don't give a shit about all these issues, yet we have cunts crying on twitter about all the eyerape comics cause, and we have to fucking listen why?
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>>71057226
Actually, from the leaked e-mails, this spin-off was planned before the all-female ghostbusters was even officially announced.

Amy Pascal - the female president of the company at the time - like the idea of starting with Paul Feig's all female cast and then letting Russos and Channing Tatum do a spin-off and build up a Ghostbusters "shared universe"

This was all planned before the all-female one was officially announced, by and with a female head of the studio.
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>>71061858
Restating his supposition isn't an argument.
Prove him wrong.
Because I'd like to see it. All I ever see is "We need less of this and I'll shame, bully, guilt, harass, and never stop complaining until there's less of it, but I'm absolutely not about censorship"
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>>71061858
I ask you this:

What's the purpose of criticism?
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>>71061902
pretty much everyone already knows comics journalism is a joke
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>>71061877
Well the implication seems to be either is the majority.
The people bitching rarely tend to be the majority.
Not to mention the industry is a constant state of almost dying. They'll introduce some new life into it then it'll die down again.
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>>71061963
Yeah, I figured that out ages ago when I realized that reviewing a comic book issue by issue was pretty damn difficult to do, and yet most comics journalism sites insist on doing that.
All the political bullshit is just a way to pad out the fact that there's not much else to talk about that can count as "topical news".
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>>71061902
Mainstream media is essentially comic journalism now. You just have shitty little sites like TMS that try to hold a niche.
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>>71058916
E-mail me your paypal mate because that's a bet you are going to lose.
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>>71061665
>>71061832
So here on /co/ SJWs are just rude and idiotic feminists on twitter who don't debate. The ones who do debate aren't SJWs? People crying "white washing" aren't SJWs?

It just means something different on /v/ and that's where I'm more used to seeing the word.
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>>71060369
>Is SJW really being used as an insult to them or an insult to people who hate them?

Both.

It started out as an insult, SJW's tried to 'reclaim' the term but never really accomplished it. Now it is just a descriptive term, everyone knows what a SJW is and what ideology they subscribe to.
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>>71049741
>it turns out the ghostbusters are all gay lovers.
>Channing Tatum, Chris Pratt and Ryan Gosling all attached

I don't think she realizes that will just make it more popular.
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>>71061916
I love that I have become immortalized in copypasta, so here's an anecdote:

A black guy in Joisey, and Scot in Scotland watch a Latino from LA play video games against a trans-woman from Japan. And according to the casual, almost exclusively straight white male critics, (backed by an equally straight white male publishing corporation and suckling the teat of fortune 500 ad revenue) we're the community that's in need of diversity and isn't progressive enough. Not them though, oh no!
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>>71061731
>designed a super villain after him.
Wait, really? That's a neat thing I never knew. Who is it?
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>>71062066
I think generally an SJW is somebody who's on the lunatic fringe of things like that, the ones that scream their opinions and get mad when people don't share them.
People that seem to actively looking to be offended.
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>>71059573
>Actually using "nerd culture" unironically

You deserve your misery.
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>>71059242
>problematic
SJW please go
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>>71061914
Well, I'm not offended. Therefore, the material isn't offensive.
Femthor is though. It insults my intelligence.
Captain Marvel's especially offensive with how they handled that Monica team up issue.
Those are problematic and offend me. We should deal with them..
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>>71060369
They've called themselves Social Justice Warriors for a while now.
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>>71062192
They're going to regret that eventually.
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>>71060398
hello /mlb/!
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>>71061959
To let someone know what you think. Judgement.

I think I know where you're going with this, and there is a difference between good and bad criticism, but is it right to assume only people bad at being a critic would state that something could use less sex?
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>>71050479
75% of Kamiya's tweets are saying "blocked"

He's the Japanese Phil Fish
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>>71062066
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>>71061769
I don't remember that article.
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>>71062066
Well, my personal definition of SJW is complicated but it boils down to
"Anyone that thinks their offense makes them an not only an expert, but that their offense is reflective of the entire group they claim to speak on the behalf of"

So, anyone that uses "internalization" as a defense, for example.
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>>71056899
trudat
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>>71061916
Opinions come in all flavors and styles; it's funny to me at least, when someone holds up a 'female' that agrees with something they like, as if that's proof that the topic that's caused all the controversy is disproved, just because some woman somewhere says she's ok with it! It just doesn't lend much credence to the discussion at all.

It basically just says, some people would rather have fun or enjoy a product without having to worry about the implications that may worry other people. Which is... ok, but it's far from an actual refutation.
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>>71062111
Video Game Tourneys: Where people of all races, creeds and sexual orientation can come lose to the Koreans.
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>>71062244
>"internalization"
The fuck does that even mean?
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>>71062220
It depends on intention and pattern.

Taking on a crusade to remove *all* depictions of female sexuality from popular media definitely reeks of agenda pushing. It could be under the guise of "for the children!" or "this promotes pedophilia!" or whatever morally outrageous thing that'll make people have a kneejerk reaction.
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>>71062169
Um... have at it I guess. I kinda like the new direction Thor has taken, but I can understand how some folks have gotten their panties in a bunch over the issue. It doesn't bother me one bit, it's not as if Thor hasn't had people handle his mantle before.

I usually get my panties in a bunch whenever I read an Invincible comic book. I kinda love and hate it at the same time. So, to each his own I suppose.
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>>71062365
Its Entryism, essentially.
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>>71054641
He's a Masonic as well. The only info he'd give about himself.

They asked defamatory Masonic questions. Which he got right.

Based Jeopardy
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>>71062330
It means that if you're a woman that disagrees with a radical feminist, you're sexist, because you've internalized misogyny. Or if you're black and think that liberal white college students speaking on your behalf is a bad idea, you've internalized racism and hate black people because the world told you to.

The thing is, like most of their terms, it was appropriated and mutated from something that had actual basis and really happens, and it's tragic when it does. (Like for example, Stockholm Syndrome, or when abused spouses make excuses for when they get slapped around"

But like so many things, they've twisted and diluted the term to mean "You disagree with me."

That's kind of why I feel it's apt to compare these kinds of people to cancer. They lurk in the greater body of social justice and turn the healthy cells against themselves.
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>>71061724
Of course.
She's like half his age, a third his mass and gave him a damn tough fight.
I do not think this is meant to be demeaning at all.
Just surprised. That she is not something monstrous or embittered but just a girl in his eyes.
She sure as fuck thought it an affront, but I'm not sure Frank would see it that way.
What he essentially says is that she is young and an outwardly ordinary female human.
In my reading he does not see that as a bad thing about her at all, but a let-down for a reveal.
Had he brought her in, he would not be the guy who singlehandedly took down a terrible threat, but the guy who managed to beat up a little girl.
In this moment every expectation he had in her was disappointed.
No scarred mercenary.
No sick mutant.
No insane beast.
Just a girl.
Good for her, bad for his ego.
I'd say his line was pretty logical here. Not a new idea, but the fitting thing to say.
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>>71059710
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/202543
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>>71062303
>the implications that may worry other people.

And what if these worries and implications are completely baseless?

What if it turns out certain people can't go five minutes without looking for something to be outraged at, for the sake of being outraged?

What if they're addicted to being outraged?
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>>71062385
I don't think he means Thor losing the mantle. I think he means the hamfisted feminism. It's pretty fucking bad, like it really is borderline offensive. She is almost devoid of personality because of it
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>>71062330
It means that if you disagree with someones opinion in regards to your ethnicity/gender/sexual orientation, it must be because you have "internalized misogyny/racism/homophobia etc." because you've been brainwashed by society.
That's why you'll see white people on twitter calling black people that argue with them house niggers on occasion.
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>>71062385
>It doesn't bother me one bit
Of course it wouldn't bother you.

>it's not as if Thor hasn't had people handle his mantle before.
You clearly have never read or picked up a Thor comic.
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>>71062385
The issue comes from the fact that Jason Aaron is a third rate hack and has all the subtlety of a fart joke, and the fact that everybody lauds it merely because Thor is a woman now. Not that it matters, because she's got maybe three months left.
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>>71062303
Though it does help refute the idea that it's for women and more that it's for their sensibilities.
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>>71062496
In other news, Odinson and Angela managed to actually talk out their differences.
During Asgard's invasion of Heven.
After an epic battle over their little sister.
But they talked.
And then the child fell into the fire.
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>>71062330
Not that guy, but I think it means to internalize something. Like a friend of mine told me that our pantsuit wearing female boss is bossy and should get laid. That could be seen as internalized misogyny because he didn't tell her to shut up and go back to the kitchen, but he did imply that he thinks authoritative women are annoying and are bitchy when their womanly desires are left unfulfilled. Did I see it like this? No. Is it possible that he's misogynist? In the same way that everyone is a little racist, some more so than others, yes it is possible, but I'm not going to take to twitter against him.
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>>71062228
Phil Fish: Aggressively asserts that his most definitive work can only be properly experienced on the Xbox 360, then says nothing as it's ported to several other systems.
Hideki Kamiya: Directs Bayonetta, a game that was specifically made with the 360 in mind, and then quietly assists the team working on the PS3 port, which isn't quite as consistent.

Honestly, he's more like the inverse Phil Fish. Fish was all over the place, whereas Kamiya is Mr. FUCK OFF. I wish more people would just say fuck off. Stop trying to show off how many vocab words you memorized in your sociology classes and just say "fuck off" - turn that passive aggression into overt aggression!
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>>71062113
He was a quick villain never to
mentioned again called funky flashman.
>http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funky_Flashman
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>>71062676
Because it was really fucking childish, Houseroy more than Flashman.
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>>71062455
>And what if these worries and implications are completely baseless?

They rarely are completely baseless; most of the problems people have with comics today are based on societal issues that deal with representation. That's pretty much the core root of many of the hot topics.

>What if it turns out certain people can't go five minutes without looking for something to be outraged at, for the sake of being outraged?

I can't go one day without looking at Wonder Woman porn, so... I guess that's totally possible; it doesn't negate the importance of a problem simply because it's discussed frequently by people who have poor etiquette.

>What if they're addicted to being outraged?

Being angry helps us know we're alive, so argumentation can be addictive, but it's also a natural process that helps us grow as individuals.
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>>71062760
>They rarely are completely baseless
#FireRickRemender

>I can't go one day without looking at Wonder Woman porn, so...
Wonder Woman porn isn't offensive.
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>>71062232
So, um. Where can I buy her stuff at?
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>>71062760
The value of representation is extremely overrated.

And even then, it's "never enough".
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>>71062365
But it's easy to make the case without spinning it into something crazy like removing all depiction of female sexuality. You'd actually be hard pressed to find someone who actually believes just that.

Mostly we have people saying (in so many words) "ew" which doesn't HAVE to bleed into "for the children" or "promotes ____" though it can be sprinkled in for good measure.

Yes, there are bad critics with an agenda out there.
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>>71062232
>ect.
>ec cetra
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>>71062760
>so argumentation can be addictive, but it's also a natural process that helps us grow as individuals.
Then why do these people abuse the block user button when their ideas are challenged?
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>>71062760
>They rarely are completely baseless;

This current fucking "controversy" would say otherwise.
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>>71062676
I find it funny that he's a Mister Miracle villain considering who Scott Free is based on.
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>>71062760
>Being angry helps us know we're alive, so argumentation can be addictive, but it's also a natural process that helps us grow as individuals.

AHAHAHAHAHAA
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>>71062760
>Rarely completely baseless

Pick any comic book controversy from 2015.
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>>71062808

Remember, it doesn't matter what actually happened. All that matters is what I think happened and how personally offended I can get by my own misconception.
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>>71048434
dammit, I JUST WANTED MOAR LIBERTY MEADOWS.
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>>71062925
Are you implying that this trip fag is the patriots?
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>>71049686
why is spider-ham there? i thought everyone went home.
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>>71063016
Dropping her off I think.
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>>71062978

>She says right in the issue that she's over twenty-three

So whoever started this issue was functionally illiterate?
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>>71062760
>most of the problems people have with comics today are based on societal issues that deal with representation
IMO, fair and systemic representation is hard (if not impossible) because of the disconnection between the creators and the subject they supposedly HAVE to represent.
Like, most comics writers are white, no? Why the hell are you surprised that by default the characters they come up with are white? Or that when writing a, say, black character it ends up being a stereotype?
There's no real solution to the "representation" problem because people tend to put themselves into their creation and when they don't someone that belongs to the ethnicity/gender of the "diverse" character might find trouble the depiction racist/sexist
The closer thing to a solution would be to encourage more diverse people to be creators, but that brings in a whole new deal of problems and difficulties, 'cause you can't force Tyrone to go on a table drawing shit he doesn't care about (and that's why we end up having people screaming that it's up to every creator ever to try create every kind of character ever)
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>>71063051
I, for one, am shocked.
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>>71063016
Hallucination.
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>>71062925
Either the tripfag is out of the gated community or is formless. I don't get it. Is it bad for people to grow?
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>>71063051
>>71062978
It made readers FEEL UNSAFE.
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>>71063051
What likely happened is that nobody read the issue, they just read the page where it's revealed that Sam and Jet hooked up. It's a Scans Daily issue, where since they couldn't post whole issues they started posting only the most inflammatory single pages they could find without any context given.
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>>71063016
She is halucinating
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>>71048434
this is the year of booty
but seriously booty has broken the internet a couple times recently now
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>>71062760
The problem is not pointing out issues, but doing so in a shrill and accusing tone.
And in complete ignorance of the medium discussed.
The problem is people who don't know what they are talking about and measure others by an impossible ideal that vanishes when approached (never enough, no winning moves, always somehow offensive).
These people try to control the discussion and lead a witch hunt whenever they see the opportunity.

And it's not just the mob. It's the profiteers. The Sarkeesians who make more money simulating a scandal than doing their job.
These people actually need to create a climate of permanent outrage to fill their coffers.
So they spread misinformation, manipulate the discourse, accuse and slander.

>>71063016
Figment of her imagination. She fell on her head after the Vulture dropped her from on high.
She managed to create web-wings to steer her fall and dropped into trash where the suffered minor trauma to the head, causing her to hallucinate and lose track of her surroundings for a while.
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>>71063103
>>71063015
The point is that claiming being "angry and argumentative" on the internet in this day and age is "helping us grow" is absurd, since people constantly show that the exact opposite happens. People are always looking for their next outrage fix, and its fucking toxic.
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>>71063117
>because we have to be
Do they? Are the Rape Monkeys just waiting for them to miss something?
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>>71063117
I'm not mad about this. People can't help how they feel and these big time comics walk on eggshells for money. Put the two together and you get this. Why not?
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>>71063161
We should really show these to Cho.
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>>71062978
Like how Mark Waid's are a sjw team meant to score minority and women brownie points?

You can't control how people react, you can only consciousley navigate, and attempt to manipulate it.
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>>71063217
>Are the Rape Monkeys just waiting for them to miss something?
Well, I've always felt that one of the reasons they were so eager to see it as rape was because it was a black man and a white woman.
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wait a minute

why is this thread pinned?
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>>71063067
>The closer thing to a solution would be to encourage more diverse people to be creators, but that brings in a whole new deal of problems and difficulties, 'cause you can't force Tyrone to go on a table drawing shit he doesn't care about (and that's why we end up having people screaming that it's up to every creator ever to try create every kind of character ever)

Some people tried to suggest gatekeeping: barring white creators while promoting female/minority creators. Because that would go over well.
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>>71062463
Ah! Yeah, I kinda know what you mean. They do hammer that stuff in good and kinda in your face, but it doesn't really bother me all that much. I kinda knew that aspect was going to be an issue, because of how much of an uproar merely making the character change caused.

>>71062485
>You clearly have never read or picked up a Thor comic.

I'll address this once and say, I've read Thor for quite sometime... so I'm not going to get into a he said, she said, "I know more about comics than you do"... kind of discussion.

>>71062808
I was kinda being cheeky with the Wondy reference...

>>71062871
Honestly, I think it's because of the interface. Basically, if twitter or whatever is popular these days, simply created some sort of apparatus in which divisive comments could go, then I think things would lighten up a bit.

For instance: If I made a comment like "Anita Is awesome and right about everything!" Then i would have a very hard time on twitter being able to separate people who like my comments vs those who dislike them. It would be easier for me to just block people I don't like, so I could see things that I do fancy.

So, if twitter simply gave people the option to 'mark' their comment as possibly contentious, then I could read divisive comments anytime I wanted to, instead those very same comments flooding my stream.

Just an idea.
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>>71063232
We really shouldn't, I doubt he'd care.
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>>71063161
I'm hoping someone posted this on Cho's forum or his Twitter
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>>71055169
BIG
MEATY
CLAWS
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>>71053737
>18 in Oregon

I... didn't know that.
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>>71063161
>>71063161
someone should really make a compilation image
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>>71063274
to avoid people making new ones every time it dropped below the first page.
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We really do need more Harley ass.
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>>71063202
But what does that have to do with the ITAOTS of games?
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>>71063297
Well, the worst thing he can do is ignore the support.
The best thing would be to give us a thumbs up, maybe make a gallery of "fan-art".
Nothing to lose.
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>>71063326
It's okay if you're less than three years older than them according to ORS 163.345.
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>>71063452
Okay, that's a relief.
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>>71061433
Didn't he also bring back Kaine to begin with?
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>>71063067
Your comment does more than prove my point, at least when it comes to representation. It's not difficult to simply read a book, or perhaps learn about a section of society that may be alien to your own. It's not tough at all, maybe it's embarrassing, as some writers or artist may feel put out to do so, but that's just how it goes when your industry starts to expand and your readership no longer directly reflects the past readership. You either expand your base of understanding, or parish to another company that will.
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>>71063389
Go out and buy Jungle Girl, it came out today. Dynamite stuff doesn't sell for shit, so it would need it.
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>>71062655
more importantly, Kamiya has talent to back it up.

and a bitching jacket and mother.
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>>71050565
>Muh feelings

That's what this kind of shit always boils down to, isn't it? Hurt feelings.

Since when is it the artist's responsibility to protect anyone's feelings?

And if your feelings are hurt, when did it become preferable to demand to be babied, rather than just getting over it and maturing a little more as a human being so that, next time, your feelings won't get hurt?

I wish I could slap some of these fucking retards.
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>>71063538
>t's not difficult to simply read a book, or perhaps learn about a section of society that may be alien to your own.
That usually ends badly. Since they are not of that race/sex/religion they tend to over compensate by shoving things in for no reason or too strongly and we get things like the current Femthor run, as opposed to a well written minority like Kamala who is written by someone of the same sex and religion and therefor does not feel the need to push to hard to convey that Kamala is indeed a girl and muslim
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>>71063290
Twitter is a public platform in which users post messages where anyone may see and reply to.

If you have a problem with interacting with the "undesirables" then consider taking your business to Facebook or setting your Twitter account to protected.

This is basically the freedom vs security argument. You can't have it both ways.
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>>71063290
I wonder how morbidly obese you are
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>>71063557
Yeah. Let me buy that transatlantic ticket to go shopping for comics.
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>>71063779
You can probably just buy it on Comixology.
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>>71063290
>So, if twitter simply gave people the option to 'mark' their comment as possibly contentious, then I could read divisive comments anytime I wanted to, instead those very same comments flooding my stream.

You can't see those comments (tweets) in your feed (timeline) if you're not following the people writing them. They appear in your notifications, but you can just ignore that.
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>>71063538
I'm not sure why you think it's the responsibility of artists to pander to small fringe demographics when the industry got to where it is from appealing to the core consumer base.
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>>71063822
Dynamite has a digital store, and might even ship international.
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>>71063199
The profiteers are never going to go away. The Amazing Atheist's out there will make money making videos against Feminist, the Sarkeensians will make money championing their opinions. It doesn't matter, because these problems are never going to go away; in sort, they're goldmines.

The problem isn't about how a conversation begins; whether it's in an accusing tone, or not it's not about that at all. It's about being able to maintain the discussion and eventually start talking to each other like human beings. Trust me, lots of people have good reason to be angry, but few have any good reason to stay angry once a discussion has begun. So fostering that kind of behavior is more fruitful, than laying down rules of initial interaction. We basically just have to deal with how people approach these issues, once a conversation had begun then we can start to quell the fires.

>>71063678
Point taken; but hey, still encouraging writers and artist to be somewhat informed about different parts of society could be just as helpful in the long run.

After all, imagine being a minority that's just started in comics and you wanted to write or draw a hero/heroine that just so happens to be a white character. But due to how you were born, you now have to first break you bones on a character that's the same culture as yourself.

So, while diversity is important it can also be constructive in some cases if we allow it to be an unavoidable standard.

>>71063856
Or you can just have another tab within notifications; it's just an idea, try not to overthink it too much.
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>>71063290
>tripcode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
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>>71063949
Not him but Sales haven't been doing so hot until a few years ago.
Is this sustainable? Maybe maybe not but they can't just sit on their asses hoping the people they've been appealing to start buying more.
Is it always successful? No but sometimes it gets eyeballs on the industry and rarely seems to hurt them since the fanbase they already have typically stick around any ways.
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>>71064051
I'm rather obese and unattractive though so my frame of reference could be skewed but these are just my opinions
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>>71054521
And I'd forgotten about it until now, you son of a bitch.
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>>71063949
That core consumer base you mentioned is no longer possesses the same demographics it began with. To your other point, artist don't need to pander they simply need to be more aware of their fan base.

Simply being aware of what's going on within your own industry demographically, can help tempter messages you may want to deliver in the future to your fans.
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>>71059682
>When they went after lolicon, /co/ said nothing; lolicon is /a/ shit
>When they went after DFC, /co/ said nothing; what the fuck is a DFC?
>When they started deleting Gamergate, /co/ said nothing; that is, as the name implies, /v/ shit
>When they started going after Frank Cho, /so said OH FUCK NO; Frank Cho is /co/ related

Not caring about things that don't pertain to the board topic? Someone alert m00t!
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>>71064051
>it's just an idea, try not to overthink it too much.

The only reason I mentioned it is because your idea stems from the misconception that strangers you you're not following on Twitter will somehow 'spam' your timeline. People often use this as an excuse to block at first sight or use illegal shit like the blockbot.
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I was heavily offended by the Spider Girl cover. I saw it and thought "the whole comic won't be like this will it? because her face is fucked up looking"
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>>71064051
>After all, imagine being a minority that's just started in comics and you wanted to write or draw a hero/heroine that just so happens to be a white character.

I don't really think this is a problem. White people don't get that upset at portrayals of them from foreigners.

Case in point: Japanese media and how it portrays whites
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>>71064303
Anon I have bad news for you......m00t is kill
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>>71052566
I dunno man, A guy shouting A-WOOGA whenever I ate cheesecake would be pretty funny.
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>>71064301
>That core consumer base you mentioned is no longer possesses the same demographics it began with.

But first, you have to prove that this new demographic is more profitable than what remains of the core. Is there evidence that shows one is more lucrative over the other?

At the end of the day, money is what matters.
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>>71064303
>not knowing about Delicious Flat Chest
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>>71064376
It sounds like it IS an issue but it might be less because they think "Nonwhites and Women can't get what it's like to be White or a Man" and more they want to use their perspective to get minority books but it results in them being typecast and it's stifling.
Like that's why Priest left because he asked them "call me when you have a book that isn't just black guy stuff" and they never called back.
>>71064480
It doesn't seem to hurt, girl books are doing a lot better than they were a few years ago.
If they released Digital sales it'd probably be more convincing.
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>>71064450
This atrocity is so heinous that he would surely rise from retirement just to right this wrong
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>>71053444
>All those mad replies
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>>71063623
>Kamiya
>talent
Just like Phil Fish, pick neither.
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>>71059926
I kind of like this one for the subtle critique of how fucking dumb Power Girl's shirt is.

Also those patriarchy-crushing thighs.
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>/co/ opposes Hideki Kamiya

this place really has become tumblr
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>>71064694
It just seems to be more of a "MY BOOBS ARE TOO BIG!"
Joke.
This one makes more of that joke.
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>>71064694
>I kind of like this one for the subtle critique of how fucking dumb Power Girl's shirt is.

How?
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>>71061731
>But remember there's a reason some of the artists at DC designed a super villain after him.
Yes, because they are fucking assholes. But what does that have to do with Lee or Kirby?
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>>71064745
That doesn't make sense considering the size of her bust, and the tightness of her outfit. Rubble would have no way of making it in.
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>>71064623
I think it's more of a case of writers being shit and not what gender/race/orientation they are.

A good writer won't make their work transparent. Well crafted stories are universal.
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>>71061769
Oh shit, that fucking article.

DmC crashed and burned despite all their attempts to chide, scold, shame and bully us into buying it. It was hilarious.
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This is all so fucking so stupid.
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>>71064818
This. Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel aren't good titles, and both are written by women.
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>>71064852
It really is.
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>>71048434

>posting in a sticky

MODS ARE GODS
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I like how everyone got a little bit upset about the Batgirl cover but when they go after the cheesecake everyone's all "hell no"
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>>71064339
I was using spam as a negative connotation meant to evoke exactly what it sounds like; but, I won't quibble over details thanks for exchange. I think I'm done for today.

>>71064376
Well yeah, it's just an example not meant to be representative of everything. In either case, I won't be replying to anything else today, but thanks for the exchange of ideas.

>>71064480
You're correct about the money, but you miss the point of knowing what your demographics actually entail. Knowing this small facet can help you plan out a way to drain more money from those whom buy your products. That's all.

Oh, and I'll not be replying to anything else today; I'm tired.
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>>71049662
Thank god I didn't go to college
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>>71049344
.....someone get his email and lets email some Spider Gwen r34 to him
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>>71064965
Define "everyone"? Because it was mostly people on social media bitching about the Joker variant, just like how it was people on social media bitching about Cho's sketch.
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>>71064965
It's not even a real cover, it was a blank variant someone commissioned a sketch on.
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>>71062735
How is if childish? At least half of the artists Stan worked with conceded that he'd sometimes act like a dick.
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>>71064484
>>71064303
Not knowing dfc should be punishable by death
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>>71064301
>>71064376
That demographic still does exist in new consumers. The problem is that companies are confused about what they look like. The shaved side cuts, the dyed hair, the cat eyeglasses, the whole tumblr look in general, that's who they are trying to pander to thinking that's who the new readers are. Those same types of people are the ones that are easily offended and shout the loudest. Their look ends up justifying the idea that those are the "real nerds" that are buying their shit.

I'll use King of the Nerds as an example. You have Danyell, the type of people companies are marketing to who doesn't buy shit but looks like she does, and you have Sega who actually buys their shit but doesn't look like the type who does.

Remember when "real nerds" were the skinny dudes with giant glasses, pocket protectors, and wore their pants up to their waists? They're under the impression that's not what fans look like anymore.
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>>71065019
He's legally blind, can't even see what he's mad at
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>>71061151
It's very obviously shopped.
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>>71064965
>A little
I'd say they're about the same if not moreso especially since that actually got pulled.
But this is doubly stupid since it's just y'know....fanart.
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>>71064722
>/co/ opposes Hideki Kamiya
says fucking who?
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>>71064965
old school comic fans don't read new school books like Batgirl and to extend a bit may not have been into Manara as much either.

but Cho is one of more popular artists of the last 20 years.
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>>71065046
I meant people on here being upset that they pulled it
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>>71064939
My friend makes a good argument that this is some kind of fucking us vs them bullshit but holy hell these fucking arguments are so pointless.
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I met Cho in a convention pretty chill dude
glad he didn't let 1% retards ruin his work
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>>71055359
...even Strata?

Lets be honest here a character like Strata would catch the twitter/tumblrtards that spaz out on shit like this off guard since just by looking at her you'd assume shes a he
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>>71065141
It being us vs them makes it just as stupid.
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>>71065135
Well people on here were pretty damn furious that the cover got pulled, but that's a whole 'nother story.
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>>71065135
Yeah, that was a little annoying. Nobody here cared about it, then tumblr throws a shitfit and gets it pulled and suddenly people here give a shit about a cover they'd previously shrugged off and start lauding it and declaring this a huge injustice.
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>>71065183
Yeah sorry, that's what I'm saying,
I just feel like these arguments are empty and don't end with a resolve.
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>>71065084
>print out pictures
>brail them
>send them to him through the mail
>profit
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>>71065258
Yeah man, why does everyone get so mad at censorship? Fucking MRAs!
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>>71064666
>being a tumblrcunt
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>>71065258
>Nobody here cared about it, then tumblr throws a shitfit and gets it pulled and suddenly people here give a shit

But that's just it, it happened in no time flat. As soon as the cover was released, there was a "controversy". Of course you could argue some anons were overeager for something to happen, but for the most post people here actually liked the cover. Then it gets pulled, and everything sorta blew up.
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>>71053444

Words everyone is sick of hearing tumblrites say:

>creepy
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>>71065337
It was a fine cover, but it seemed pretty bullshit to pull it because people who didn't have to buy a variant might feel uncomfortable.
But it's over I guess and the artist was the one who said to pull it so nothing can really be done.
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>>71065366
>gross
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>>71055116
Dan isn't a tripfag but he is a tasteless cuck.
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>>71065403
>problematic
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>>71052818
>>71059954

someone, somewhere absolutely haas to draw this shit
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>>71065366
Problematic
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>>71065419
>UGH
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>>71062496
Funny thing is that Aaron has done GREAT fucking miinority characters and actually can and HAS done comics with racism with depth and subtlety. Scalped and Southern Bastards.

Aaron, being a southerner is a cultural minority in and of itself in comics.

But his whor is....excruciatingly bad there.
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>>71065442
>SIIIIIIGGGGHHHH
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>>71065337
That's not true, in the variant thread where it was posted first everyone liked it
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>>71065468
>I am literally shaking
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>>71065486
>literally
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>>71065472
...Which is why I said for the most part people here liked it. Hell, I was in that thread.
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>>71065366
>Feels
>>
>Does tumblr like it? Then we must hate it
>Does tumblr hate it? Then we must love it
This has been /co/ for the last few years and I'm pretty sick of it. Every day, it's tumblr bitching about this and people bitching about tumblr and tumblr bitching about people bitching about tumblr, and so on. Do we really have to match buttmad with buttmad every single time?
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>>71061731
>But remember there's a reason some of the artists at DC designed a super villain after him.

It wasn't some of the artists. It was Kirby himself who created Funky Flashman.
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>>71065532
/co/ likes Saga and Ms. Marvel alright
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>>71065532
Yes, tell us all how you're so superior and above it all please.
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>>71055171
Of course Slott defends Manara, Manara was employed by Marvel at the time.
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>>71065532
There is no way to cure it. Im pretty sure this will go on forever
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>>71065460
Yeah, I can never get a handle on Aaron.
When he's good, he writes something liked Scalped, or Southern Bastards, or Ghost Riders.
When he's bad though, he writes shit like Original Sin or FemThor. With most writers you can at least see the flaws in their good work, and in their bad work those flaws just take the front seat, but with Aaron it's like two different people writing.
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>>71065486
>Somebody mistook me for a man, fucking misogynist
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>>71048434

I'm glad somebody has the fortitude to stand up to this wave of antisex sentiments.
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>>71049344
its funny cos CHO looks buff as hell and probably drop robbi if he tried anythin, robbi looks like a skinny hipster
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>>71065532
You're sick of something good? Because while I understand that sweeping generalization is inherently bad, so is Tumblr's ignorant majority of users. Welcome to 4chan, now stay out
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>>71065560
I think his point is that everyone here should be above that kind of shit
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>>71065585
>I post my tits for myself, not for men to oggle!
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>>71065612
>contrarian for the sake of being contrarian
>good
What?
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>>71065532
>I'm pretty sick of it
Then please don't go.
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>>71049283
Fuck this cunt. Seriously.

>middle finger to women reading comics
Fuck you. I'm a woman reading comics and these censoring cunts trying to smear brilliant artists and then gong 'WE'RE DOING IT FOR ~YOU~' is a big middle finger to me.

Fuck this. Fuck this so hard.
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>>71059573
>I fucking hate nerd culture

The only people who talk like this are SJW hipster cunts.

Of course you blame gamergate for "singlehandedly" making it impossible for you to run your cunty anti-fun crusade unopposed.
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>>71065612
How is that a good thing?
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>>71065622
We're not, and neither are you since you're here in the mud with the rest of us.
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>>71055027
I don't know. I think i would be a good idea to stop storytimes of shit that is uploaded on the same day, but when that guy recapped all the secret war stuff it was amazing, along with many other old arcs.
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>>71059573
>Gamergate singlehandedly made it impossible to talk about games on the internet without a shitstorm happening and MRA/tumblr fucks preventing any conversation

Nigga are you retarded? And is anybody ITT retarded to believe that? Just talk about vidya, 9/10 times GG won't have anything to do with it.
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>>71065607
>Cho looks buff
He looks like a sclubby Korean
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>>71065646
>Doesn't know what contarianism is

What?
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>>71059573

This person is painfully blatantly an SJW

When they tsay they want to "talk about videogames on the internet" what they mean is

"talk about how fun videogames are racist, misogynistic trash and the only good games are shit like Depression Quest and other Twine garbage"

Bashing "nerd culture" has always been the SJWs calling card
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>>71052998
you see its not cringeworthy narcissism and validation-seeking to insert that into your author commentary, its EMPOWERING because
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>>71065664

"Nerd culture" is Zimbabwe and Tumblr hipster culture. It is a marketing term for people think Portal is still a hype mahmah.
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>>71050447
Remember when Sad Puppy, an organization created years ago by sci-fi writters and fans tired of the cliques on their communities was actually gamergate?
SJW just need a narrative to be "right" on the news
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>>71065579
People need something to be constantly mad about, so no, this isn't going to go away.
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>>71052998
Same tumblrkin?
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>>71052900

And they fucking put it on a fucking cover of squirrel gurl too.
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>>71055287
It got too mainstream?

I honestly miss the days when using the internet was a bit of a hassle
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>>71052998
>>71052566
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>>71065794
Yup.
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>>71048434
I had no idea Cho was so based.
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>>71053088
>Happy that no genuine review has been under 89% so far.

Holy shit, was that for dmc? Genuine reveiws, how delusional can a creator be.

durr if they dont like it the review isnt legit
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>>71048434
I get the criticism over her being a teenager doing that pose and Spiderman blatantly staring right at her ass, but the whole "the pose makes her look submissive" argument is stupid. We've seen Spiderman do this pose before and there was no uproar of him putting his ass up in the air. Hell the crawling position they use for the majority of the time does that anyways because of how anatomy works. The pose itself can mean many other things like they're ready to pounce, being cautious or even being curious. It's supposed to give off a more animalistic vibe. The angle itself works better to show off the figure as any other angle would make it look weird and compact. And yes there's also a sexual nature to it, but I mean we live a world today where almost anything can be considered sexual regardless of the artists intentions.
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>>71065181
Especially Strata implying I couldn't rub one out to her
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>>71065981
>I get the criticism over her being a teenager

She's over 21.

SJWs screamed teenager hoping it would fool people and they could paint Cho as a pedophile.
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>>71065981
>I get the criticism over her being a teenager doing that pose

She's legal.

Also fictional.

But still legal.
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>>71065981
>I get the criticism over her being a teenager doing that pose
Why? Teenagers are sexy. They always have been. It's not like we're talking about a child here.
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>>71065557
>nd Ms. Marvel alright
shit yeah we do
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>>71065981
>teenager

She can fucking drink
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>>71065776

Also, v's 2012 parody of This is Halloween was retweeted by Anita as the birth of goober gate. As in the one about SJW's retweeting about my soggy née, Irony is dead.
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I guess it wasn't surprising that something like this happened given things that have happened over the last 10 years like the Mary Jane Statue controversy, scans daily's problems, Comics Alliance's shots at DC, and so on.
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>>71058142
>Meritocracy is not sexist

It's pretty simple how these people work

>Women don't have everything they want
>Therefore, __________ is sexist

Women not being given special favors? Sexist

Women having to work for anything? Sexist

Women being held to any standard of behavior of any kind? Sexist
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>>71066034
Oh, well my mistake. They're all idiots then. It's just stupid adult humour not some ad saying "ALL WOMEN MUST BE LIKE THIS!"
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>>71049780

>hashtag bullshit

I hate everyone.
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>>71065981
>Spiderman blatantly staring right at her ass

OH FUCK NO

A MAN

LOOOOKED

AT A WOMAN

CALL THE FUCKING COPPOLICE

SOMEONE ALERT J JONAH FUCKING JAMESON
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Shit like this makes for a great example of how immature and over-sensitive comic book fans are.
The problem is that they are over-sensitive and immature ADULTS. Many of these people are going to end up in positions of power and influence as they get older, and it fucking sickens me when i think of the pussy bullshit society is going to go through in the future.
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>>71065019

...I feel like this is a terrible idea but I kind of want someone to do it.
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This is a picture of what I would do were I a successful cartoonist getting shit from SJWs.
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>>71066102
Anon this is really dangerous thinking. Everyone knows Gwen as a teenager, so depicting a child in such a way is disgusting. If she were someone else it'd be fine but an unborn fetus has no place being viewed as such. So really Frank Cho should think before he decides to sexualize the atomic singularity that will become the proper matter of the uncreated universe.
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>>71049132

So some tranny SJW could "debate" him by calling him creepy and telling him to shut the fuck up? Fuck you.
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>>71065652
I'd suggest telling that to them, but they'll probably just block you instantly cause MUH HUGBOX
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>>71066399
Yeah, this is how not to deal with SJWs...
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>>71066399
You forgot to put tranny in quotation marks. Because honestly how many SJW are actually trans? I mean they invented the insult truscum to attack trans people who where telling them to fuck off with their make believe bull shit
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>>71065532
>tumblr
Retard people sounds better.
There's no point of censoring anon.
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>>71065532

>click [-]
>continue reading other threads

Everyone else is sick of Tumblrcunts deciding what can and can't be in comics.

If you're sick of hearing about what other people are sick of, you are 100% welcome to stop listening and/or fuck yourself off of a bridge
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>>71066382
Cho overexplains the jokes
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>>71066290
>SOMEONE ALERT J JONAH FUCKING JAMESON
Why? Does he like staring at asses too?
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>>71066399
This

SJWs do not debate, they scream and argue in bad faith and then claim victory after calling their opponent a shitlord.
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>>71066290
>SOMEONE ALERT J JONAH FUCKING JAMESON
SJW Jameson would be funny as fuck
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>>71066509
Which is surprising, considering his background in newspaper strips
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>>71066499

In fact can the "everyone hates SJWs" general thread just stay perma-stickied at the top of the page, and then the bitchy I'm-totally-not-an-SJW-honest-I'm-just-sick-of-bluh-a-bluh-bluh can scroll right by it on their way to say how much they love adventure time and steven universe and hate all men?
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>>71066543
but he'd only be an SJW about Spider-man
>Parker! I need pictures of Spider-man copping a feel on the women he saves!
>Are you sure you don't want me covering the Purple Man trial?
>Spider-man is the real misogynist menace here!
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Guys, I honestly don't care what SJWs, I can just ignore them

I just don't want people losing their jobs.

No one's gonna lose their job...
r-right...?
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>>71051225

Technically he did, if you watched the livestream earlier on in the day(prior to the "We just landed on a fucking COMET" celebration) he was dressed in your standard white shirt. It was only AFTER the "We just landed on a fucking COMET" celebration started did the shirt come out.
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>>71066419
I'd just get told I have internalize misogyny and I have only have my opinions because I want the patriarchy to bone me or something.

Fuck these people.
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>>71066293
>Shit like this makes for a great example of how immature and over-sensitive comic book fans are.
We're not the ones getting PTSD from fan art.
Hell, if these people discover rule 34 they may commit sudoku.
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>>71066631
You understand that once you cross the SJW cult, your crimes against them will never be forgotten.
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>>71066631
I wish I could just ignore them but they are actually shaping what the comicbook industry does recently, as well as many internet artists, as well as the enviroment on the internet, so that's not an option to me.
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>>71066543

Sadly Slott is so bass-ackwards he'd try to write triple-J as a Gamergater
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>>71066631
We need a power rankings of groups that are batshit crazy if you piss them off. It'd basically be otakus > ISIS > everything else > SJWs
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>>71066631
Probably not.
Though I'm not really sure Cho's arrangement with Marvel.
I honestly didn't know he was on contract with them.
I just thought he occasionally free lanced at Marvel.
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>>71052006

Hip-hop and anime.

They fear the samurai.
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>>71066763
I don't know why Groot sliding in and out of frame is so funny to me
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>>71060339
Opinions are one thing. Actual call for censorship and defaming/slandering someone definitely is pushing it.
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>>71066763
I can't believe someone actually drew a cute Carol. I haven't seen that since DeConnick took over.
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>>71066839
>I don't like judging an entire culture
>but I'll do it anyway
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>>71061701
Fuck off back to tumblr you disease ridden cunt

> but he is an artist known for kicking bee-hives
No he's not fuck off
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>>71066839
Anyone have that "Would you like the sexism on or off" video about Jap video games?
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>>71048434
So, does anyone has the Gwen one?
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>>71066856
The first panel really reminds me of Maguire, funnily enough. Him and Cho need to do dual art for a series sometime.
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>>71066988
google
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>>71050565
>Robbi Rodriguez has a daughter and that's where his design for Spider-Gwen comes from.
How is drawing her EXACTLY like she's been drawn since the 60s, but in a costume now, somehow basing her upon his daughter? I suppose he's not offended by having to draw his "daughter" getting wasted while underage?
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One great thing about controversies like this is it weeds out the idiots from the lot. This case is a tad more egregious case of SJW witch hunting because the art was on the guy's personal site. It's not even meant to go in publication.

There is this constant need for them to control what is allowed on social media. Any site that allows this unofficial policing needs to be put on blast. Then again, Reddit, Tumblr, Facebook and others are too afraid of bad PR to enforce their own fucking rules.
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>>71050565
>MUH PROXY FEE FEEEEEEEEEEES

Holy shit what a faggot
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>>71067044
>Then again, Reddit, Tumblr, Facebook and others are too afraid of bad PR to enforce their own fucking rules.

Its kinda hilarious.
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>>71066856

>>71067019
>underage
thought she was 21, and of course not those are his bosses telling him to do that, nigga is too chicken shit to call them out.
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>>71053705

wait i thought that was a 4chan edit holy shit it's real?
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>>71066964
Not the original, but I do have this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtFN8G0NN4M
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>>71066997
>The first panel really reminds me of Maguire
By the way, I couldn't believe how much Justin Ponsor's coloring improved so much the art of Maguire. DC colorists didn't make him justice and I think his art looked pretty shitty, but seeing his art on Guardians of the Galaxy my jaw dropped to the floor
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>>71066839
So what we must do is learn the ways of
>>71066853
It's tough to argue, I think the Marysue article is difficult because it's definitely implying some things aren't okay to draw even if it's a private commission but worded it passively and nicely.
Then there are people online calling him an asshole, and well....that's their right.
4chan LOVES calling peoples assholes for any little reason. Hell they were calling him an asshole for shitting on Supes a few months ago.

>>71066929
There seems to be some people with histories with him but I don't really remember any other beehives he kicked
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>>71067100
it's real and in-character
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>>71067105
Yea, its kinda of a shame its a part of Bendis' GoTG.
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>>71066839
Wow, Anita is a racist.
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>>71067151
Same with Pichelli. She should have stayed on USM or be the artist of a Bendis-written All New Ultimates.
Shame GotG was pretty bad.
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>>71065794

But i thought it died like 15 times already?
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>>71066513
Seems like the kin of thing he'd do.
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>>71067185
She's not racist, you're racist for thinking she's racist!
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>>71050811
Yeah why the fuck would he tie the lead robot from my favorite Gundam in this.
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>>71067105
>he thought Maguire's DC art looked shitty
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>>71067224
Some necromancer keeps raising it from the dead.
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>>71053444
You're a humongous faggot that likes to suck dick in a chinese alley, that is my only opinion on this matter
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>>71067273
Dude, go look at Worlds' Finest. It was pretty sad.
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>>71066839
It's funny because Japan has way more well written female protagonists and characters as well as great female artists and more genres that appeal to the female market as well as a good dosis of fanservice for ladies. And while society is far from perfect, women in media have it pretty nice.
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>>71050565
>I really could give a shit how many downvotes I get
Fuck I can't help but laugh when people fuck up this phrase.
Apparently he does give a shit about how many downvotes he'd get
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>>71052900
That kind of has be thinking about how some wigged out over the "All About the Base" lady being curvy and not huge. Like there's a council for determining butt depiction and appreciation.

"Nope... larger, fuller..."
"Almost..."
"EGADS! That's too much junk! What have you done!?!"
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>>71067224
>but we're nerds, goddammit! we're supposed to be SMART
There's a difference between a geek and a nerd.
Not to mention that a lot of the intolerant shit just comes from 'normal' people. Not geeks, or nerds, or jocks. Just assholes.
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>>71067224
What a fucking faggot
>>71067273
Maybe he means the new stuff.
His World's Finest was less than stellar.
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>>71067320
Worlds' Finest had a lot going against it, but it sure as fuck isn't the only thing Maguire has done for DC
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>>71067101
That's actually the one I was looking for
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>>71067273
it has its highlights like this panel
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>>71067245
Shut up you sexist!
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>>71067044
Reddit is the worst of them all. They've got a sketchy CEO that no one is allowed to talk about, and the user base just looks the other way.
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Guys what if we have both, tumblry stuff like Spider-Gwen, Spider-Woman and Batgirl AND dumb awesome cheesecake the likes of which Cho loves. Is this posible?

Am I weird for wanting t?
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>>71067394
The problem is that it's too big. Most of the people don't know that shit is going on.
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>>71067089
>Then again, Reddit, Tumblr, Facebook and others are too afraid of bad PR to enforce their own fucking rules.

They're less "afraid of bad PR" than they are supporters of the racist, sexist speech

Bear in mind that Tumblr in particular was bought by Yahoo at the order of their feminist CEO Marissa Mayer, and Reddit is now run by another feminist who lost a huge sexual harassment case against her previous employer

The fact is these women are in favor of social mediaites being able to bash white men unopposed
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>>71067224
Listen and believe.

Why take the time to actually make a coherent argument when you can assert your conclusion as truth and label anyone who has any problem with that a bigot?
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>>71067394
Redditors have been extremely vocal about that, but their discussion threads kept getting deleted.
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So mods gonna unstuck this at 2000?
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>>71067356
No one's criticizing his entire DC output, just his recent stuff. Even the Retroactive JLI issue he did suffered from the same coloring WF did. The anthology book he worked wasn't too bad at least.
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>>71067394
Hoo boy, the shadow bans were fierce when the admins posted a link to some net neutrality shit and people from KiA called them out from directly linking to it.
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>>71067224
I like his sense of typography though.
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>>71067424
Just makes it funnier.
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>>71067453
People got shadow banned left and right whenever discussion broke out. Pretty much the streisand effect when you realize people just archive.today the threads before they get deleted and show the corruption.
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>>71067425

Looking into this stuff is like looking at a clone of /pol/. They have their own version of redpilling to see how The Sexism really is everywhere, how comics need to be saved from The Enemy so they can evolve away from toxic white masculinity and gross nerdmen and so on.
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>>71067516
>a white people
That has to be set up, right?
Nobody can be that dumb.
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>>71066839
>Hip-hop and anime.
>They fear the samurai.
Proving once and for all that this is a white people problem. You honkies aren't so great after all!
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>>71067566
Who knows at this point.
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>>71067565
That was a wild ride to read
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>>71049344

Wow, this should be the actual issue

One creator threatening another? I hope at the very least this guy gets a serious, serious talking-to by TPTB at Marvel.

For all that the SJWs cry wolf over Anita Sarkeesian supposedly getting death threats, they're awful fucking quick to issue their own threats of violence.
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>>71067101
I really like Suda's Games. There just fun bullshit.
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>>71067324
>Like there's a council for determining butt depiction and appreciation.
And it's full of white chicks named Becky.
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>>71067660
I really need to re-learn how to use the wii so I can beat the No More Heroes games.
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>>71067708
They emulate well if you want to try that.
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>>71065580
>it's like two different people writing.
It very well might be.
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>>71067660
That's the point of them. They're like those mindless movies you watch for fun.
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>>71067728
My roommate owns both a Wii and not of the games, so it'd probably easier just to hook it back up.
How do the motion controls transfer over? Because I'll be honest, I actually liked those in NMH. It felt great whenever I managed to pull off a suplex.
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>>71049686
>>71060141
I don't particularly want to be the naysayer here, but she's being denied service at a bar. That is not really proof of being old enough to drink.
>>
Threads about this aren't allowed. Where's porn spammer to save us from topics he doesn't approve of?
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>>71067750
>Jason Aaron is a comic-writing Dr.Jekyll/Mr.Hyde
The question is, which one wrote Scalped?
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>>71067708

1 is worth finishing but 2 is pretty forgettable imho
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>>71067815
>Threads about this aren't allowed
>It's a fucking sticky
Is this your first week?
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>>71067814
They appear to be denying her service because she's passing the fuck out.
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>>71067814
>passed out in a bar
I wouldn't serve someone who looked like they were about to pass out either
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>>71067843
I'm sorry my sarcasm was lost on you
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>>71067224
I wouldn't have any problem with different games (hell, I like simple puzzle games as much as hard action or jrpg games) if it weren't for the loudmouths who keep pushing their shitty idea of games as art and trying to censor everything they don't like. If you want art, then first accept that art is supposed to make you feel, it is not rsponsable of how do you feel about it, and you have no right to imposs your opinion on others.
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>>71067872
I'm sorry my dick got lost in your mom
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>>71067750
I think he's just following orders. Editorial probably told him to introduce FemThor and have the story spin its wheels until they give him the okay to reveal who it is. He's usually a much better storyteller.
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>>71052566
shit i just spent a few minutes on that noelle ladys twitter and good god is she a prick
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>>71067766
They really aren't mindless (with the exception of Shadows of the Damned) he puts forth some challenging concepts in his games but does it in a way that A) you can completely ignore so they don't obstruct game play B) are fun to read into.
>>71067791
If you have a wii mote you can use that perfectly in dolphin emulator although I don't know how to set up sensor bars for it.
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>>71067904
DAD?
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>>71067413
One will always complain about the other. Extreme-tumblry stuff will cry about how that other toxic male heroes in the medium are sending oppressive coded messages to the youth and need to be stopped, and the other side will always have lots of T&A and slightly not-so-left views. Both can exist for sure, I'm not sure which will be able to survive in this economy. But then of course, then that would make the economy misogynistic...

>>71067321
Japan has a large and working shoujo industry and has for fucking decades, even tons of romance games for girls, but they might as well not exist in some western critics eyes. I mean, if they weren't, then how could they write about how Bioware or some crappy female reskin hero are so like revolutionary and groundbreaking and you should totally support them?

>>71067646
That's just a very small excerpt. This is just what I picture in my head when I read another "UGH SIIIGH" moron talking about "gooblergratedcheese". Just angry lunatics.

>>71067660
Here's a horrible video for you to experience:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqVpD31LAfs
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>>71067997

And by slightly not-so-left I mean 99% instead of 100%. That's what passes for evil wifebeating republican to some people though.
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>>71067867
>>71067865
>>71067814
And even then, before that scene, she was apparently wandering around aimlessly, so she could've easily gotten drunk elsewhere before stumbling into another bar.
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>>71067889
>>71067224
I'm all for variety too but when your program doesn't even have a fail state then technically it isn't a game. It might be a great piece of art, and have a brilliant story, but from a technical standpoint it isn't a game and it isn't fair to it or to game designers the world over to call it as such.

On a basic design level, games have to have success and fail states, and rules for achieving both. Everything from Chess, to Tic-Tac-Toe to Tetris to Skyrim follows those tenets. You need to be able to win, lose, and be given at least some vague idea of how to do each.

Otherwise, MS Paint is a game.
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>>71067972
Why's the box gotta be white?
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>>71067972
>don't allow them to substitute bigotry for actual insight
So you're forcing them to be bigots then? Am I reading this right?
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>>71067904
I'm sorry you were cursed with such a small dick
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>>71067997
>Not mentioning the best part of that picture

Dude went HAM just because his site layout changed; they never touched his articles.
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>>71068083

Underated
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>>71067997
>>71067321
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>>71068087
tumblrtards think that the artist is mad about not being able to be stupidly racist because political correctness
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>>71055345
holy crap that art looks splendid
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>>71068203
I know, but read what they said:
>don't allow them to substitute bigotry for actual insight
If they don't allow them to substitute bigotry, it means they're saying that they force them to use bigotry, which is the opposite of what this tumblrtard was trying to say, right?
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>>71067997
I really want to know where he pulled that 50 billion number from
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>If men have a hard time accepting that women are outperforming them in something, they'll assure that the women don't have the opportunity to compete in that venue, and that's what you essentially see happening in GamerGate, for example.

this is EXACTLY what is happening in comics

new squirrel girl threatens the male consumers
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>>71068247
His ass. It was easy to find because his head was already up there.
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>>71068277
New Squirrel Girl threatens me eyes
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>>71068247
His ass is a likely candidate.
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>>71068277

new squirrel girl threatens the whole humanity
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>>71068277
I don't think Squirrel Girl is outperforming anyone in anything
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https://twitter.com/my2k/status/586020065289510912
>hahaha nerds calling for "comic-gate" because frank cho has essentially asked them to. Thanks, bud, we needed the backslide

You were one of us, /34/. Gooble gobble and all that jazz.
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>>71068083
I really thought it was going to be a sarcastic tumblr complaint with that as the first response.
I guess they aren't as clever.
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>>71068343
It's outperforming most webcomics for bland art and worse writing
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>>71068247
Yeah, it's pretty sexist of him to suggest it was so little. It was actually 50 gorillion.
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>>71066608
>>71066543
>>71066290
And just like that, a sticky on /co/ predicts the next iteration of JJJ & his nemesis, spidermisogynist, coming soon 2020. Truly a relatable plot point recreated with the death of newspapers and the stupidity of the modern age.
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>>71065557
>/co/ likes Saga and Ms. Marvel
lol
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>>71053075
oh no, you didn't

fucking lol
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>>71068349
>https://twitter.com/my2k/status/586020065289510912
Literally, who the fuck is this?
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>>71068277
The thing is, opposition is not only encouraged, but relished. It's not enough ot have Femthor, you have to have Femthor and then talk about how it's totally outselling and better than ManThor. If they just did it without being all smug and "GOTHCA" about it, way more titles would pass under the radar and no one would care.

Only, these people don't want to eat unless their meal comes with a side of nerdrage and a extra large glass of male tears. They'd sooner starve than not be seen as the trailblazers they are.

Which is why so many preexisting characters and franchises and even content creators get flat out ignored. Because no credit can be claimed for them, and no one is complaining about them.
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>>71068349
The fuck does any of that mean?
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>>71068386
Nigga you crazy.
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>>71067865
>>71067867
>>71068046
... Isn't she suffering a head trauma severe enough to make her imagine spider-pig?
Don't get me wrong, I think this controversy is worthless too, but if we're going to defend something let's at least use solid arguments here.
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>>71068403
Also, it's a study in ignorance and short sightedness, because they actually think she's going to stay Thor.
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>>71068047

I don't really even care about the terminology itself. Just be very clear as to what kind of thing it is. I get the impression that a lot of these indie projects try to trick consumers into playing them. If some persons going to spend 20-30 dollars on a goddamn walking program with narration that lasts one fucking hour and then finishes with no replay value, then make that very clear from the onset, because if it's on Steam or wherever then people are going to think it's fucking worth the money. Doesn't help when journalists laud some of these crap games as the second coming of christ, even when exact same gamesstuff came out for free on newgrounds ten years ago.

I almost feel like they do this in order to "broaden the average gamers mind and evolve them" or crap like that.

MsPaint is very racist for being defaulted to white though.

>>71068247
You don't remember the 50 billion?

>>71068277
>they'll assure that the women don't have the opportunity to compete in that venue, and that's what you essentially see happening in GamerGate, for example.

I never understood that, even though I kept hearing it over and over and over and over, "keeping women out of games!". Nobody can stop anybody from developing games. You can literally make a game yourself and sell it on Steam and make dosh. Nobody can stop anyone from playing games either, anybody can go play some browser emulator Super Mario World right now, and there's no gender lock. Games are fucking everywhere.
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>>71068386
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>>71068277
>new squirrel girl threatens the male consumers
What's Squirrel Girl got to do with what you said? Half the creative team behind it is male
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>>71068349
I don't know who this person is but I can already make some damning assumptions.
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>>71068386
>not liking Mahou Shoujo MARUBERU Kamala
suit yourself
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>>71068460

How angry are they going to be when it finally happens

Angrier than people here were?
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>>71068497
shit she got kyooter

>Jersey City is off-limits to whackos
we both know that's not true, Kamala
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>>71068393
>>71068495
She was once /34/, but she is /34/ no more.
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>>71068471
> progressive

he means openly discriminating the fuck out of peoples skin color and gender? because lately much of this so called "progress" has been all about this.
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>>71068497
Damn. I'd stick my penis in her no doubt about it
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>>71068514
it'll be their first introduction to Status Quo is God

I look forward to it
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>>71068441
She's suffering head trauma, but she also didn't want to go back home so she decided to wander aimlessly. Either way, the fact that she was in a bar puts her pretty much over 18, as most won't admit you if you're underaged.
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>>71068514
Oh yeah, they're going to be stunned. It's going to be hilarious, because they're not going to get that it's being done for them so the comics and movies will match up again.
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>>71068497
Did the dialogue get any better?
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>>71068536
>/34/
Which is?
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>>71068497
I'd snuggle with her until my legs break, I tell you what.
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>>71068460
Its seems like people championing FemThor REALLY don't know how comics work. Which actually has made me think; even though there are all these claims of more people, or more women buying comics, how many will KEEP BUYING comics? How long until they start to notice buying single issues just isn't worth it? Or better yet, how long until they attach themselves to some new fad and completely disregard comics?
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>>71067997

Sooo... did he kill himself?
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>>71068595
Oh, a drawfag. She used to be a drawfag.
Ask Simon.
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>>71068471
What constitutes a "progress-minded" game?
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>>71068656
We can only hope
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>>71052749
This isnt chemo m8 this is the dankest fucking kush from here to the arabias
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>>71068349
Who called for comicgate?
>>71068514
They'll probably do it quietly. Whor is becoming Thors meaning they can give her less panel time and even work in a substitute mjolnir without drawing too much attention.
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>>71068471
>I never understood that, even though I kept hearing it over and over and over and over, "keeping women out of games!". Nobody can stop anybody from developing games

Even then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8RgbS9ESE
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>>71068471
>I almost feel like they do this in order to "broaden the average gamers mind and evolve them" or crap like that.
It's hardly that lofty. They do it because the indie devs making that stuff are their friends, spouses, or financial backers.
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>>71068642
That's the million dollar question. It's started getting an answer in video games, it's only a matter of time on DC and Marvel feel the burn of courting an audience following a trend.
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>>71068403
>a extra large glass of male tears

Somewhere in the world, the term 'male tears' is a euphemism for male ejaculate. An unverified but easily believable fact that amuses me immensely.
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>>71068656
His last tweet dates back to April 3. I suppose he likes wallowing in his own misety and bile too much for that.
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>>71068785

Well, that sucks. He should kill himself
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>>71068717
I feel like writing characters with no regard to their gender is kind of a disservice. Like, I get that you don't want to make it their sole purpose or whatever (unless that's what the character calls for), but gender is important. I am the way I am because of my gender, and I'd be very different if I was the other.
I was thinking about the Ripley notion, where in the first Alien movie, she was originally a male character, and was switched over later.
And while I think that's when her character overall was strongest, I think she was a better female character in Aliens. It was in that one that she is looking after Newt, and I think, as a woman, Ripley becomes a stronger character in those scenes with her.
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>>71068560
1) I have never seen a bouncer at a bar- at a club sure, but never a bar
2) There's a bar in most sit down restaurants, and a lot of the new style arcades (dave and busters/gameworks/etc), which the background actually resembles
3) A single frame gives zero context of timing, she could've been there for hours drinking until she was denied further service, or she could've barged in two seconds ago and is being immediately rejected
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>>71068851
B-but gender is a social construct and interchangeable...
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>>71056141
tranny
not passable
assumes people think he/she is competent because they're a woman

well, the logics female at least
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>>71068882
Every bar I've ever gone to has a bouncer. Even the ones that are restaurants have bouncers or security outsides
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>>71068882
it depends on where the bar is in New York, really
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>>71068929
Where the hell do you live?
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>>71068851
I look at it as rather, instead of writing "X Character", you write "Character who happens to be X". Sure certain traits can define a character, but they should never be the character.
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>>71067224
I've played video games my entire life. I really don't give a shit about it being perceived as art. I can appreciate video games for being video games. I don't have to jerk myself off over the artistic merits of anything.
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>>71068851
I don't think she really meant that there'd be NO difference, only that it's not worth mentioning. Raziel is a stellar example, seeing as every single one of his traits could easily be transferred over to a female. He's a male, and certain small things reinforce that, but if he were a girl she'd be the same character with some minor changes.
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>>71068851
At any rate, Alien is a very outlandish setting per se, and in such settings gender will have to take a backseat to eldritch threats such as a superstrong, superfast homicidal alien lifeform lurking in the inescapable interior of a spacecraft. Not much room for MUH SOGGY KNEE in a situation like that.
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I fucking hate gender politics

Shit's retarded yo'
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>>71068851
>t, I think she was a better female character in Aliens. It was in that one that she is looking after Newt, and I think, as a woman, Ripley becomes a stronger character in those scenes with her.
Except Wolverine for example, is almost stereotypically manly, and he has the same relationship with say, Jubilee, or Kitty, or Armor, or X-23, as Ripley did with Newt. You just think it fits better and brings some kind of hidden development or truth out in Ripley because of the gender stereotype of women being more nurturing or motherly. Badasses always have a weak sidekick or a little girl or something to look after and make sure they don't go full berserker and unsympathetic, unless it's to protect said weaker sidekick or little girl or whatever. It's called a Morality Pet.

Admittedly the Freudien-Giger wet dream mishmash that is the Aliens franchise is helping you with this, but it's still trading one "problematic" cliche with another. There is no way to win.
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>>71067224
>fellow gamers
>fellow

why the hell do casuals and normalfags have to build communities out of everything?
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>>71068851
You're not wrong. I think the point being made though (I seem to remember Tom Sidell saying something similar about writing a female character) is that, if you set out with writing a 'strong female character' as a critical goal, then you're setting yourself up to build every other aspect of the character around showcasing their gender, rather than having their gender or sex support other aspects of their personality. And as a consequence you're character is kind of flat because everything about them loops back to supporting this one thing about them.
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>>71068978
>I really don't give a shit about it being perceived as art.

It seems like after a certain point everyone got hung up on the whole "games as art" notion. Can SOME games be art? Sure. Does EVERY game need to be art? Nope.
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>>71068171
Yesss! Also, I was absolutely convinced Ranma 1/2 was created by some old perv guy before I discovered it was done by a woman.
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>>71069105
we still need to get to the point where people accept that there are arthouse games and schlocky mass-appeal games, and some that sort of fall in the middle.

like literally every other medium
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>>71069105
Most of this discussion is "I want things the way I like! No other way! Everyone should like only what I like!" That isn't the way the world works. But no, they whine and attack that they need it to be inclusive, or for everyone. You'll never please everyone, but you'll easy annoy a ton of people trying to make everyone happy.
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>>71068497
Absolutely adorable
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>>71068642
I don't think they realize a reblog or retweet doesn't count as a purchase.

>>71068495
Cho > Chu

>>71068743
>>71068642

This whole notion is so silly because, despite what some artists or network execs or whatever may believe, it's actually pretty easy to appeal to females with good quality content media without pulling this kind of garbage. Again, japanese markets already has lots of comics and games for girls, it's not some fucking unsolved mystery of the ages for christs sakes

It always baffles me how these people point to some very heavy handed ideological progressive message and say "THIS IS WHAT WOMEN AND 'MINORITIES' WANT!", yet you can go anywhere on the internet and read what they like themselves, or look at sales of certain other media, and realize that it's really not fucking complicated. I mean, I sure as hell know how to get a gay guy to want to read your story - start with some fucking cute guys, bam. I guess that's gross and problematic though, very patriarchal and sexist, and rapey!

It doesn't matter what women or minorities want, because what most of them want is just a product of internalized misogyny that they learned from society. They need to be reformed and re-educated, all of society does. So you need to get rid of the patriarchal propaganda media figures that promote toxic masculinity, like heroes or games, and reform them into preaching soldiers of the cause and so on and so forth.

And then nobody will read them because it's fucking lame, and women will go and read actual fun shit.
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>>71069077
What do you think you're on right now if it isn't a community?
I'm not defending this moron, but community is an important part of the Internet.
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>>71069195
It's trying to have it both ways. The argument boils down to "This needs to be inclusive and diverse by allowing in our hegemony and getting rid of you and the things you like"

At east the hardcore fans are honest. They just want casuals to fuck off. They're not trying any of this subtextual denial crap.
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>>71068851
Isn't gender only as important as society decides it is?

And doesn't separating gender from biology only strengthen those gender roles that'd we'd be better off doing away with?
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So are we really gonna sit here and pretend that only SJW frequent Tumblr? 'Cause I'm there right now and there are lot of people that think this whole debacle's just retarded.
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>>71067528
It's funny since the SJW tried to pull DMCA shit on archive.today to get tweets and other shit taken off.
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>>71069267
Not that guy, but I think I'm on a free source of porn, comics, and reaction images.
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>>71069298
Tumblr is a strange beast.

It's about 10% SJW, 10% art blogs, and 80% porn
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>>71069322
If that's really what you believe, you wouldn't be on this thread which is a discussion centric one.
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>>71069298
It's where they're the loudest and most concentrated.
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>>71069298
tumblr has quite a few people against SJWs and their ideologies. But they're a minority.
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>>71069256
I love how booty blasted they got after NYS became a thing
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>>71069298
This was more of a twitter thing anyway. The conversation just sorta rolled to general SJW shenanigans, and tumblr is a part of that.
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>>71069343
How do you know they're a minority? The way Tumblr is set up, you can only see content in circles you follow (assuming you're a member of the site.)

If you're not a member, then you're just basing your claims off of screencaps you see, but you should know that screencaps are cherrypicked.
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>>71068961
I'm just saying you shouldn't write them based on the extremes. They shouldn't be pigeonholed by their gender, but their gender shouldn't play absolutely no part in their character.
At least 95% of the time, anyways.
>>71069022
I don't know the game well enough to comment on it. But the minor changes are what should be strived for. You should be able to take X,Y,Z as a character and then adding a penis or tits change it accordingly and still get a very similar character out it that experienced different lives.
>>71069026
And really, Alien is just a really solid script anyways. Even ignoring the actual alien and shit, it's just got great character interactions.
>>71069033
Wolverine plays on the fatherhood aspect though, while Ripley's is obviously in motherhood.
And is it a gender stereotype that women are more nurturing and motherly? That seems to be an inherent fact of the gender.
>>71069086
That is certainly a better way of saying it than how I did, I think anyways.
>>71069294
Hell if I know for certain, but I'd rather say no.
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>>71055797
>We reached that point back in 2012, anon.

It's nice to see people finally getting sick enough of this shit to slap back against it, like cho is doing here

Hopefully it becomes more of a trend, and something that fans find a way to financially support as well
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>>71069298
>So are we really gonna sit here and pretend that only SJW frequent Tumblr?

Of course not! But as always, SJW are far and away the most vocal, and in your face about things, so they tend to draw fire upon whatever they're using as a soapbox.
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>>71069340
Sadly, I have a lot of extra time to burn due to an overnight shift.
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>>71069267
>What do you think you're on right now if it isn't a community?
One of the very few places on the Internet where the people can separate what happens on the web from real life...? Normalfags cannot imagine the concept of divorcing one reality from another, so they feel genuinely offended when somebody calls them a faggot over Facebook or Twitter.

They try to build a community out of anything that involves more than two people doing the same thing because, it seems, they cannot comprehend the idea of non-normalfaggotry existing in the world.
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>>71069284
>>71069284

Got another one.
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>>71069105

I think all games are art. I don't think it actually matters either way though and it's a worthless thought experiment at best.

It reminds me a lot when I get into certain cartoon discussions and they get desperate calling something "for adults!" or not. It just screams of "PLEASE TAKE OUR MEDIUM SERIOUSLY!". It's a very bad space to be in, and only guarantees a continued arrested development, and a general reduction in their levels of enjoyment in their hobby. I can understand why they do it, i've done it myself, but in the end it doesn't mean anything.
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>>71069395
>tag searching doesn't exist on tumblr
>seeing people you follow get ganged up on by teenagers for completely innocuous statements isn't indicative of the whole
Whatever dude
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>>71055797
The left one looks awful. What's the problem?
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>>71067413
Not at all anon. The point at which I really start to care is when we have people trying to suppress other people's work.

The only people doing that are ultrachristfags and ultraleftists.
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>>71069286

But if they push really hard, hardcore hobbyists will stop participating in the medium!
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>>71068497
Kawaii/10
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>>71069444
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Anyone who feels strongly about GooberGas one way or the other is, without exception, an insufferable cunt
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>>71069400
>Wolverine plays on the fatherhood aspect though, while Ripley's is obviously in motherhood.
Short of breastfeeding (which I don't remember being in Aliens, and if there was, let me know so I can rewatch it) what is the functional difference?

>That seems to be an inherent fact of the gender.
They can't fucking decide if it is or it isn't. As far as I can tell the common stance is "It isn't an inherent fact of gender until a guy wants to be a teacher, sit next to a child on a plane, or get custody"
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>>71069481
I kinda love this

>Hey nerds, guess we're taking over. Get used to it
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>>71069499
Including you, since you talk like a fucking baby.
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>>71069481
>Sessler is a coke addict
>Kuchera "taking a break" from games
It's a good time to be alive
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>>71069444
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>>71069481
Man, what the fuck happened to sessler.
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this man has no dick.
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>>71069528
Probably all the coke.
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>>71069499
>If I just hate everyone then I don't have to do any critical thinking
The same kind of "all politicians are equally bad" thinking is a huge problem in this country.
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>>71069528
He decided to become Lex Luthor.
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>>71069528
Cocaine's a hell of a drug
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>>71069534
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>>71069298
If there's something you got to learn fast, Anon-san, it's that vocal minorities are precisely that: vocal

While neutrals and passives pat themselves in the back over how level-headed they are, the crazed few are out in the streets causing ruckus and attempting to force the world to turn in their direction. A small bunch of loud nutjobs can ruin things for hundreds more who either never noticed them or didn't give them importance.

Put simply, it's extremists who make history. Not moderates.
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>>71069518
>Movieblob no longer with Escapist
>Jim Fatling no longer with Escapist and being denied review copies
>Leigh Alexander reduced to indie bitching site
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>>71069499
>GooberGas
>Using fucking baby talk like a god damn idiot because other people do it.

How does it feel to be a fucking tool.
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>>71069556
but they won't see that cover? He literally did it at a con on a blank variant
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>>71069513

Yeah, it's kind of sad. If I was a PR agent I could've done what they wanted in 2 weeks with enough pay. But they had to get salty and shoot themselves in the foot.
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>>71069534
>biggest new reader boom in years
>sales still haven't gone up
How does that work?
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So what does the mods posting this as a sticky mean? That they support discussion of it and just wanted it kept to one thread, or the opposite, that they oppose discussion of it but acknowledge they can't have the janitors deleting threads all night?
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>>71069534
>>71069556
>we have more female creators any more so you can't draw cheesecake it's wrong
What about the female creators who draw cheesecake are they also banned?
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>>71053088
>That Phil takedown
>That Shane response
>That Patricia beatdown
Truly based.
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>>71069534
>its this country's fault I have to think Manara's work can be tasteless

Okay.
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>listening to SJWs
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>>71069534
>>71069556
>G-GROW THE FUCK UP

Buttblasted status achieved
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>>71069590
well we only see Diamond's numbers

digital numbers are a mystery to everyone but the companies themselves
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>>71069503
It's how they treat them. There's just an emotional difference how rough and tumble Wolverine would treat an 8 year old Jubilee and how Ripley would treat her.
They are only better caregivers when it suits their needs, I guess.
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>>71069592

A fiasco like this has happened week after week after week now. They know it would just take over the board like every other time so they made a sticky

Whether they agree or not is anybody's guess, but it doesn't really matter.
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>>71069592
>they can't have the janitors deleting threads all night?
This one.
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>>71069590
Less old readers buying comics I guess?
I mean, I know I don't buy them any more
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>>71069534
>>71069556
God what a long and boring way to say "I'm one of the good ones please like me please!"
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>>71068587
A little. And the art is a bit more consistent, but she's still a massive fujiyoshi, and it's still like Benids slow, so if that triggers you, stay the fuck away.
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>>71069592
it's more containment than anything, to prevent another Batgirl #41 scenario
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>>71069600
i hope not, i love Amanda Conner.
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>>71068497
She is upsettingly cute.
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>>71067997
Exactly how do people that are that mentally ill get autismbux tier easy as fuck well paying jobs with insane illogical and utterly deranged shit boiling behind their eyes?

I've fucking saved people from house fires and shit, (not a fireman, I was just wasted and it honestly seemed like a good idea at the time) and I cant get a goddamned glass of water in the town it happened in, from relatives of the people I saved, without showing cash first, but this loopy motherfucker gets a soapbox and probably a shitload in patreon money?

fuck this shit, let them have their fucking nerd culture, the only thing they have done, is taint and poisoned the well now, there is no redeeming it. they have ruined another fun thing for another generation, just because they want to feel special for no reason.
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>>71069586
>Damn Nerdy White Men
>signed - Nerdy White Man
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>>71069592
It's far more efficient just to have a sticky instead of constantly cleaning up threads 24/7, pissing everyone off.

Who gets mad at a sticky? No one, everyone wins.
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>>71069620
We know generally how much the comic sales are, and they aren't fantastic.
If they were, you know for certain that Marvel and DC would be swinging their E-Dicks around and bludgeoning each other with them.
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>>71069658
she needs to stop writing and get back to arting full-time

like CamStew
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>>71049662

This actually made me laugh out loud. It's beautiful. These people are regressing to fucking children because they're terrified about getting upset.

Guess what, shit you don't like is going to happen. You don't hide from things you don't like. We're taught this as fucking children. What ever happened to "sticks and stones will never hurt me"? In the real world when shit happens, you need to use it to grow and get stronger. You don't fucking run and hide in a children's playroom and start scarfing down cookies and hiding under the covers.

I've been on 4chan for years. People call me an asshole with shit taste and everything i think is wrong almost every single day of my life. Know what it taught me? Not to run away crying whenever someone says something i disagree with. Bad experiences are an absolutely essential part of your life. It's how you grow as fucking people. You can't learn to say "don't worry about it, he's a dick" when someone is mean to you if you fucking cover your ears and scream la la la every time it happens. Just like you can't figure out for yourself if your opinion really is crap until someone tells you your waifu a shit.

These are people that are literally so terrified of growing up and becoming human that they're setting up nursery rooms to hide in when things get scary. Which is only appropriate because they have the mentality of children.

God, fuck university.
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>>71069621
Define the difference and the needs.
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>>71069534
>physical treat
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>>71069668
>Who gets mad at a sticky?
Well purecomicfags get pretty booty blasted every time a new MCU trailer sticky comes up.
>Implying their opinion matters
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>>71069600

Guess so
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>>71069710
>implying any of our opinions matter
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>>71069723
poor Babs Tarr
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>>71068497
Oh my god Kamala-chan is such a kyuutey
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>>71048434
The chick from iZombie did this pose in the new episode right before she fought the Asian dude. Had to pause cuz of coincidence. Also cuz of nice booty.
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>>71069620
>>71069675
I've seen it said that digital only counts for 15% of the market. That seems likely to me.
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>>71069765
Screenshot?
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>>71069600
These are brainwashed and ignorant ones that, tragically, seem to have internalized mysoginy, so we can't let them think their own thoughts until their eyes are open to the Dogma Feministis.
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>>71069556
This is literally the same shit that the videogame industry puts up with.

Progressive faggots who are so "ASHAMED" to be associated with the core. They want to whitewash and purify the hobby so it can be appealing to their normie friends.

Fuck all of them.
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>>71069723
>>71069747
These basement-dwelling virgins should be banned from the industry. These images are so problematic!
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>>71069682
It's funny how clear it is now how little writing input Conner must've had in writing PG because of how awful Harley is.
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>All these instances of over-PC attitude have gotten louder of the years
>People like Cho and Trevor Noah being attacked because they don't fit the uber-PC mold
>More people have started to speak out and fight back instead of groveling

Beta Uprising when?
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>>71069788
isn't Amanda Conner married to Palmiotti?
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>>71069663
>Exactly how do people that are that mentally ill get autismbux tier easy as fuck well paying jobs with insane illogical and utterly deranged shit boiling behind their eyes?
I know this is goign to freak you out but it's simple.
They're privileged.
An overwhelming majority of these people are white, from affluent families, and live in major cities where they can be cosmopolitan (read: hipster). Many of them are Silicon Valley born and raised. Some of them even have trust funds.

Their brand of social justice and liberalism is by and large the rebelling at their parents. They just don't have the maturity to realize yet. Once their Moms and Dads (mostly their dads) retire and give them the keys to the kingdom, they'll start voting Republican and do a 180 and the cycle will start again20 years later when their kids finish college.
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>Sticky

I shall call this adventure "The time Frank Cho drew an ass cover and SJW got BTFO."
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>>71069784
>A bare belly was for some enough a trigger to send our company enough hate and threatening mails to persuade my boss to ask me to change the cover. I did, but did so reluctantly. Disagreeing wholeheartedly with the claim of the artwork being sexistic, the better half of me decided to meet "offended-by-design" people somewhere in the middle.

>In the world of journalism there are channels that take an aggressive stance against everything they judge even remotely sexistic and in many instances denying the word of opposition by disabling criticism and reactions on their articles or blogs. Also blackmails in the form of "change your game art or we won't publish a single word about you." is a common behavior found among those.

http://orogion.deviantart.com/journal/Save-the-Boob-plate-380891149
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>>71069795
NOW
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>>71069832
he drew THREE ass covers
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>>71069838
LET THE GAMES BEGIN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT4hog3qOrs
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>>71069817
>Artist who draws cheescake
>Being married to anyone

Ah ha, nice one, /pol/!
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>>71069820
Someone once described this phenomenon as "socialism from above."
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>>71069844
>The Spider-Gwen parody of the Spider-Woman one
>The Harley one in response to it
What was the third? Sorry if it was posted in the thread, but the page is lagging for me at this point and I can't be bothered to scroll up.
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>>71069663
>fuck this shit, let them have their fucking nerd culture, the only thing they have done, is taint and poisoned the well now, there is no redeeming it. they have ruined another fun thing for another generation, just because they want to feel special for no reason.

You are overreacting for no reason. These people are meaningless and are already losing relevance. The vast majority of people both in and out don't like these people and don't like the repeated dramas they cause, nor are anywhere near the level of political extremism they are.
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>>71069534
>>71069556
So...I'm curious... what sort of bars does he do his work in?
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>>71069820
It's honestly incredible to me that these people will harp on about privilege and all that other shit, when in reality the only real privilege left in the west is wealth and class.
Something most of them have, at least in part.
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>>71069877
He did a Spider-woman one first, then the Spider-Gwen one

complete with the little Spider-man. It's why he's saying Deja Vu in the Spider-Gwen one
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>>71069877
A corrected anatomy version of Jessica
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>>71069788

Your face is problematic!
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>>71069860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSRylVSfxyw
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>>71069877
He did a Spider-Woman one as well
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>>71069534
>that wasn't a t[h]reat, I'd just nag at him
Way to be manly, Fagneto.
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>>71069883
Gay bars.
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The only good thing about what's happening is they are currently getting their way. Once publishers see that sales aren't increasing, they will stop pandering. Money talks and is all that matters in the end.
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>>71069899

Relevant
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>>71069899 I don't feel like retyping all the sentiments I posted back in >>71058787 so I'll just say that if I actually gave a shit and had social media I'd ask them "Can we start getting rid of the rich white bossy people with you?"
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>>71069909
That's horrible. And hilarious.
Who the hell would ask a comic artist to draw on that
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>>71069899
Just the fact that most of them can spent so much time online without leaving their house speaks volumes of the sort of privilege they themselves have.
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>>71069960
Apparently Connor has a thing for that anyway.
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>>71069960
I think it's from Matt Fraction's house, where he invited a bunch of comics artists and writers over for a party and let them draw all over it.

I could be making that up, though.
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>>71069960
Conner has a thing for girls on toilets
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>>71069910
>omae wa ga
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>>71069776
Was watching it on my dvr but here.
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>>71069938
Unless, as it seems to be the case, the writers are serious SJW zealots who won't change their mind anyway.
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>>71069961
This. If you're tweeting from your iPhone about how underprivileged you are, you're probably not that underprivileged.
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>>71069899

Males and females have alternating privileges, as do different races.

People refuse to see privilege as dynamic and instead get into a reverse dick measuring contest of how my life is harder than yours. That's why white boys on this website will say black people have more privilege than them because they can get girls with daddy issues to sleep with them or won't shut the fuck up about affirmative action/college admission.
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>>71056166
It's not a tank. It's an Abbot SPG.
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>>71070012
The anatomy on the drawing is exaggerated for the sake of showing her expression, but yeah I see what you mean.
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>>71069994
I think its from a Comic Shop owner who requested she draw it for him to hang up.
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I don't understand what the fuck is going on anymore.
Is the reason this triggers SJW because Quinn is a woman and being told what to do?
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>>71069994
I thought it was just a thing some artists did, I remember an old Goon issue where Powell raffled off a signed toilet seat with a sketch on it. Also, why would Fraction's bitch wife allow that in their house?
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>>71069844

So.... The Tale of the Triumvirate of ASS?
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>>71070063
Alright. Well where the hell did he get an Abbot SPG? It's not like they have those at the local Tescos.
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>>71070058
And those privileges generally cancel each other out.
Wealth and class is the only set of privileges that just ramp up the more you have. In the west, at least.
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>>71048434
does all this outrage mean this video is relevant again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB6TiRJNI-Q
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>>71070092
Short version, Cho was being all Cho, and some bored slit decided to make a federal case out of it, he responded with the picture in the OP.
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>>71070095
I dunno, maybe it wasn't Fraction. But I know at least one big-ish name got a new house, invited all his artist and writer friends over for a housewarming party, and part of the party was drawing all over the walls
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>>71070012
Had to be done
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>>71069556
>>71069534

We must shed ourselves of the nasty stereotypes of old, and make comics more legitimate.
We need to make our medium palatable and presentable to the World Stage!
If the normal people are put off by anything, remove it!
Clean up! Cover up! Button up! Sit up straight!
Keep it shiny, keep it nice, keep it polished, keep it safe!

Comics need to GROW UP, FOR ONCE!! And comic readers need to grow the FUCK up! Then the masses will like us! You know, the masses? Who are extremely intelligent and have refined tastes?

>>71069960

She likes it.
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>>71070128
So the joke of the Quinn cover is that Harley is being told to hold a suggestive pose for an indefinite time (im more interested in the humour) am I getting it? or is there more meaning to it.
Can I save it? I really really like it.
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>>71070092
Cheesecake isn't allowed anymore in comics by order of the SJW cult, but Frank Cho rebelled.

Cho is now worse than Hitler.
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>>71069909
It's a thing Isotope Comics does, same story with >>71070095
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>>71070193
I want to become a cheese cake artist! I want to be cool like Cho!
>im 100% serious
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>>71070186
>Can I save it?
Wh-what?
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>>71069820
so they only have to be born rich and spoiled to live as a rich and spoiled asshole, and not work for it, or be competent in any way, shape or form? my parents didnt give me a damn thing but a drinking problem, and a 2 1/2 pack a day smoking habit.

fuck this goddamned gay earth. I'm out, just fuck it.

>>71069878
they seem like some passive aggressive want the rough trade kinky enslavement crazies to me. they want someone to step up on them, backhand them and tell them no, bad dog, and rub their nose in it.

>>71070193
i for one welcome our Asian cheesecake artist overlords.
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>>71070186
It's referencing the now infamous Manara cover for Spider-Woman 1, and when he drew a Spider-Gwen version it was the worst thing ever because it might trigger someone if they happened upon his blog maybe.
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>>71070186
Save whatever the fuck you want. Nobody's going to rifle through your computer and point out things they don't like except the NSA
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>>71070166
>>71070193
Guess Cho doesn't get the seal.
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>>71070165
Kek. The scene before was this pose in comicbook form too.
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>>71070166
>CLfifyB

That guy is really trying hard to stay relevant.
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>>71070228
I see but it is doubly triggering because its basically domination porn now.
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>>71070125
Oh god. How crappy do you have to do to get blown out by maddox like that?

And extra points for superimposed spider ass.
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>>71070186

The picture parodies the Manara comic variant cover from a while back. It got a lot of internet controversy from feminists and became a little thing. The Cho sketch suggests that Joker's doing it so it destroys the internet, a truly cunning plan.

And you can have it, it's all yours, friend!
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>>71070211
He has a couple of books that might help you with that.
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>>71070166
>CliffyB talking shit on PoE and Obsidian

6/10 I actually got mad for a second
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>>71069606
I really hate twitter users with pretentious names

Like "Jay, Lioness Rampant"
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>>71067224
Gamergate now has the power of time travel it seems. Every time they die, they just rewind time. It's how they were able to start #sadpuppies in 2013, despite not being around until late 2014.
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>>71070317
Gamergate created the internet to bring itself into existence. Its like Carol giving birth to her own inter-dimensional rapist.
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>>71069945
Why is there literally nothing relateable likeable, or remotely human about this creature?
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>>71070166
>Homosex marriage is keeping games from being art
Ok, buddy
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>>71070368
Because he's a trustfund kid
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>>71070368
children of rich people are the worst
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>>71070244
>>71070212

I'll help you

>>71070287

It's not even about that for me, it's about that poisonous mentality. TOXIC, even. Caring so fucking much about making your hobby or interests or favorite medium "presentable to the mainstream" is just so awful. It will never lead fucking anywhere. Not for any selling out reasons, but just because it's futile.
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>>71053845
yes
he'd be fine with it if she was naked
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>>71070368
Cause she's got serious mental issues
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>>71070435
>I got upgraded to First Class for free
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>>71070283
Is Cho's book actually a how to? From what I heard it's mostly a basics book and you could get more indepth anatomy from other drawing books.
>>71069534
>Body Image has changed in all forms of entertainment
Yeah, Stuff like FX and HBO has made it so you can be more sexual and violent than ever.
I won't say music has gotten more sexual or violent but we've had our share of spectacles.
I get he wants comics to be taken seriously but do we need to become super self conscious about every singular aspect of comics so we don't look like "those guys"
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>>71070435
>Some fatass bumping over its coke becomes another fucking persecution story

It's primary nutritional source is indignation.
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>>71070435
I'm seeing rich kid entitlement, not out-and-out mental issues.
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>>71070498
Same thing, really.
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>>71070435
yeah right, I'm sure that happened. those people, always have some grand TRUE STORY to tell that is 9th grade compulsive liar tier shit.

why the fuck did it have a fucking bag rolling loose in the cabin during a flight, and why was its drink not secured where it couldnt spill on the bag?? i call bullshit on the whole story.

fucking compulsive liars and their fucking FART-RAPE.
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>>71070522
affluenza is not a real thing
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>>71050464
I think the spider-man WOW is a bit much
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>>71070435
Maybe if you hadn't chopped off your penis he would've taken you more seriously.
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>>71070530

Stop mansplaining.
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>>71070539
I think you're a fag
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>>71070533
There was that one kid that got away with murder because they successfully argued that he had affluenza.
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>>71070572

WHOAH, whoah, hey, dude, we don't say that kind of shit here, new comic readers might be here! We gotta act presentable!
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>>71070577
Kid DUI'd killed four people and paralyzed someone in his car

Got 10 years in a cushy retreat prison for the rich

Judge said the affluenza defense wasn't part of his sentence

The stacks of cash in his robes probably were
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>>71049741
>written by the same guy who wrote iron men 3
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>>71070604
We don't want the kind of comic readers that aren't fags around here
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>>71069766
A 15% growth ain't bad though. And it's allegedly more for books like Ms Marvel. If it was THAT good though I think we'd hear A LOT more rather than occasional mentions here and there.
>>71070539
Yeah but that's Cho's kind of humor, it's pretty cheap.
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>>71070577
just because Texas is retarded doesn't mean it's a real thing
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>>71070634

Agreed, fags are the best

>>71070636
>I am ass-man

Holy fuck
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>>71070368
Its movements are more reptilian than human, its head and eyes don't track objects like we do. It tilts its head at odd angles, like a snake trying to catch a scent, but it puckers its lips constantly like fish

Just imagine waking up at 4AM and finding it prowling around at the foot of your bed.
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>>71070565
Said it before, I'll say it again; this all has be some elaborate, avant garde, Kaufman-esque trolling.
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>>71069945
>>71070368
>>71070435
>>71070565
I read on kotaku her game is better than civ5 with the brave new world expansion.
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This is fucking amazing and I am just now catching up on the Cho response shitstorm.

I just want to say:

I'm supporting Cho by buying his stuff. In the future, when I'm filling out an online cart, I'm going to try and find at least one thing of his. I already have made a conscious decision that I won't buy anything involving Rodriguez. Reward quality people, ignore bad people.
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>>71070682
No, just opportunism.

E-clowns have to say stupid shit constantly to stay relevant.
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>>71069945
Addendum
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>>71062099
Fuck I can already see the porn and the threads on /y/.
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>>71070577

Oh America, you're so silly.
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based cho, never change.
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>>71070565
i wish my great grandmother was alive to slap some sense into these spoiled little airheads.

she'd take her frying pan the their empty noggins, and her broom to their asses.

Mum took no shit from anyone, and would slap the shit out of anyone trying to give her any.
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>>71070735
Ah, every country does dumb things some times. All of Europe tried to form a union out of countries that have spent their entire existence trying to wipe each other out.
Greece is trying to bail itself out by saying Germany still owes it war reparations.
Canada elected a Dimensional Shambler as it's leader.
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>>71070741
>>71070741

Oh look, Lego Spidey Booty.
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>>71050601
>>71055206
>>71059468
This is the sort of stuff that wins Hugo awards when the the progressives are in charge:

>The Water That Falls on You from Nowhere
>Some weeks prior to the beginning of the story, an unexplained phenomenon begins worldwide: whenever a person lies, water falls on that person from nowhere. Consequently, Matt decides that the time is right to not only come out to his traditional Chinese family, but to introduce them to his partner.
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>>71070759
Incestuous rape? Its like I'm back on Good /d/, before the tentacles and perversion was replaced by miles of cocks
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>>71070787
l-lewd
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>>71062099
She just wants to stick it in the guys who want Guybusters craw because they must be homophobes and would hate gaybusters.
>>71070741
That's pretty fucking cute.
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>>71070786
>Canada elected a Dimensional Shambler as it's leader.
Wwait, really?

Neat
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>>71059682
/co/ said nothing because the people that did got banned.
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>>71070813
>>The Water That Falls on You from Nowhere
>>Some weeks prior to the beginning of the story, an unexplained phenomenon begins worldwide: whenever a person lies, water falls on that person from nowhere. Consequently, Matt decides that the time is right to not only come out to his traditional Chinese family, but to introduce them to his partner.

Did fucking Brian write this?
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they kill MOOT, and now CHOO is in the list....
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>>71070813
If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love

As a paleontologist lies in a coma, his fiancėe tells him how things would be different if he were a Tyrannosaurus rex.

Winner of the 2013 Nebula Award for Best Short Story, and nominated for 2014 Hugo Award for Best Short Story.
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>>71070813
>>71070889
I like the water falling on you part. The gay stuff is dumb, though.
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>>71070816
>cocks
>not good

I feel sorry for you.

>>71070889

I'm not going to judge the movie, but goddamn that summary and title really combines so many cliches of THAT kind of movie.
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>>71070927
I'd read that

I might even pay for it
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>>71070109
After the Cold War ended and AS90 was brought in, we had hundreds of Abbots that went onto the surplus market for cheap, plus aftermarket parts. As such, they're the cheapest, most common 'Tank-like object' you can buy in the UK. Many small businesses have them for rentals, driving experience day outs, etc, which is where they hired that particular Abbot.
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I would so like to see what a colossal mind fuck it would be to the SJW's if Budd Root did an alternative cover. Or even a cover of Miranda dressed up as a superhero posing.
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>>71070759
Great stuff. Any more?
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>>71070565
that fedora picture is really funny though
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>>71070950
cocks have their place.

but /d/ is just wall-to-wall dicks nowadays
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>>71070861
Either that or some kind of Albertan Deep One.
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>>71070993
>nowadays
It's been like that for at least 7 years
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>>71070993
>cocks have their place
On women right?
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>>71050645
No they wouldn't, you see that's the funny thing about feminists, they hate trans people, and hate gay men even more because "we are misogynists for not dating women".
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>>71071016
IN women
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>>71071032
>hate gay men even more because "we are misogynists for not dating women".
A friend of my Aunt's got told that one.
He thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever heard.
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>>71070936

It could be funny and good. I'm just imagining it having those indie pencil sketches and so on too. You know, a bit too whimsical for it's own good. I imagine it keeps on happening to him as he makes last-second lies instead of coming out (and they all wonder why), until the very end of the movie. But what I'm imagining and how it might be executed are usually totally different things...

>>71070993

That's what it's always been, futas actually died down a bit compared to a few years ago
Cocks are amazing though.
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>>71071032
>Mad that their vagina powers don't work on them.

Indeed.
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>>71071042
Sure, it you're some kind of fucking deviant.
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>>71071042

In men, too
In everywhere
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>>71070927
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>>71070965
>Godking of Cheesecake does a Manara alt cover
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>>71071090
Well it is /d/ after all.
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>>71071074
It almost seems like an anime plot.
Something so weird and unexplainable like that, yet have it just be a part of the every day life.
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>>71070787
I think it would've been funnier if they kept her head having normal Lego poseability too, like they did for the limbs. Namely, not being able to move up or down, just swivel left or right.

But I guess it also works as a joke about the Manara picture too.
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>>71070787
everything is awesome
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>>71071084
That's not proof of them being mad at gays, that's just an awesome gay guy.
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>>71070813
And to think this is the same award that was given to STARSHIP TROOPERS (the book).
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>>71071230
The penwork makes them look hairy, specially the blonde
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>>71069747
>NEW BATGIRL DESIGN IS TOTALLY FINALLY NON-SEXIST AND OBJECTIFYING PRAISE THE EARTHMOTHER
>Creator of design: ...I'm gonna draw sexy naked art of her.

Also, the boots staying on is hot.
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>>71071258
>Implying that's a bad thing.
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>>71071230
>Frank Cho is a mediocre
I really like his art its better than most comic art you see today.
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>>71071273
Not the good kind of hairy anon. The bad kind
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>>71071125

Fuck, that's exactly what I was thinking. Well, maybe it is good. But I guess people are worried they just rated it good because gay.

>>71071267

But sexy is bad! It scares the women and children away!
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>>71071314
>Implying there's a bad kind.
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>>71071211
I don't say he was a poof.
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>>71071303
He's technically proficient but yeah nothing really challenging about him. He's just really aesthetically pleasing. Plus he's not really great at sequencing/motion.
Better than a shit on of artists out there though.
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>>71071375
>Well, maybe it is good.
It's a fine concept, but the actual narrative that is being framed by the water drops sucks.
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>>71071388
Well yeah, when they got boob hair
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>>71057506
>tattoos
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>>71054105
gonna need the artist name for that one
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>>71071230
Why would I want hedcut shit that looks like a Wall Street Journal portrait?
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>>71049269
Otto's already on that one.
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>>71056341

The US SJW cult would lose their shit in a nano second if they understood and knew about the Italian sexy comics tradition from which Manara originates from.
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>>71068102
I'm sorry you were cursed with such a big mom
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>>71071496

Or go look up anything on tumblr.
Do they even realize how much shota art women draw?
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>>71069499
Well the important thing here is that you found a way to feel superior to both!

You insufferable cunt.
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>>71049662
I've never been raped or assaulted but went through a bad suicidal period so I guess there may be some parallels. It took me over a year to get myself to a shrink and if I was confronted by a kids playroom my sense of self-worth would probably plummet so low I'd jump out of the nearest window. This shit is patronizing. When people have issues they need to come to terms with them and work through them. They need a sense of worth and direction, giving them play-doh instead and a basket full of puppies seems like a nice idea but you have just crushed the person's ideals of being a self-sufficient adult. The last thing you need traumatized people to think is that they are incapable and on the level of children that need hugs, kisses and a cookie.

Unless by trauma they just mean Tumblr trauma which boils down to: He said play-doh and cookies aren't for adults I'll show that asshole!
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>>71067245
I'm native american, everyone in this thread and her are racist.
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>>71056341
Interestingly, SJW shit seems to maily fester in englsih-speaking countries and Sweden
But these people are generally not aware that a world exists beyond the people they talk to on the internet
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>>71071491
Oh Otto, if only your actual comic art was better.
How is his porn better comicing than his pro work?
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>>71067413
have some zelda link
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>>71071668
the actual article itself goes on to say what a bad idea stuff like this is

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-hiding-from-scary-ideas.html?_r=0
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>>71067185
The most hillarious part is that Japan has more successful women in the video game and comic industry, more "geek" media that appeals to them, and more female protagonists in general.
I believe Anita hates japan because it turns out they DIDN'T need feminism to accomplish what SJWs have been trying to in the West
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>>71071717
he's not on a deadline with his porn/he was told not to draw to similarly to his porn by editors
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>>71067413
I don't think it's wrong to want both. It's just wrong to prevent others from wanting any.
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>>71067566
I've seen tumblrites saying that, 4000 years ago, "white" people were opressing the rest of the world.
They're as delusional as creationists
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>>71071783
A large portion of hentai mangaka (writer/artist) are women. Especially really fucked up ones, it seems
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>>71071810
why would they go that far back when colonialism and imperialism are so much closer
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>>71071723
heart pupils a best
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>>71071303
oh shit did i get band for pointing out a glaring flaw in /co/?
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>>71057102
This pic just made me realize that I have a female's body and that going to the gym is only making it more apparent, WHY THE FUCK?
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>>71049623
Skip is worse than Boco.
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>>71070786
>All of Europe tried to form a union out of countries that have spent their entire existence trying to wipe each other out.
And wouldn't you know it, they haven't waged war against each other since then. Wow, so dumb.
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>>71071856
Dress up as a chick, make bulk Patreonbucks, you're set for a while anon
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>>71071856
maybe you should work out your shoulder and back muscles.

whats your routine?
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>>71071832
To show that white people were always evil oppressors
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>>71071682
Technically, all white people are racists

>>71071836
Agreed. Although Link is hotter.

>>71071856
Embrace it anon.
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>>71069481
Adam...why?
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>>71071905
what was even happening in 2000 BC

Egyptians?
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>>71057102
Looks like she dick imprints on the side of her hips.
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>>71071921
Cocaine.
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>>71069556
>>71069534
>Literally the "It's holding the medium back" argument

Aye, because movies like Otis are holding the film industry back amirite?
Funny how the people who just want their hobbi to become mature are those who most perpetuate the stereotype that everyone in it is an unwelcoming "misogynerd"
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>>71071921
Don't do drugs, anon.
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>>71071787
But everyone on /co/ immediately spotted it was him when it came out.
And he uses his regular pen name for both
I don't think he's hiding what he does.
Which is strange since I think he's Ruskie, aren't they all anti-gay? How do they feel about traps?
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>>71069528
He was always shit.
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>>71068171
>you will never have Ranma's Curse
>You will never turn into a qt busty girl version of yourself maybe with different hair color
Kill me
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>>71071979
Ruskies definitely are not all anti-gay, but the government is, and the Russian government is scary.
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>>71049741
>demanding an all female congress
This poster is a Russian spy.
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Cho needs to learn to draw more than two bodytypes

He's like Legoman except he's hired
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>>71071907
Quoting some random 1970s sociology papers doesn't make it the actual definition.
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>>71069878
Why doesn't Bob move to somewhere in Asia or Africa if the white man's culture sucks so much?
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>>71071979
>How do they feel about traps?

That is in the homo-shit category. So yes they hate it.
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>>71072026
There should be only two body types. amazon woman and tarzan
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>>71071944
Greeks being dicks to other Greeks, too.
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>>71070708
who is this brianna yu cunt?
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>>71071491

Oh my.
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>>71071966

Agreed, it's just hard to even read.

It's funny because again, appealing to different demographics is not hard, other mediums do it all the time and they still have tons of raunchy shit everywhere for different audiences, and lots of things appealing to the "hardcore".

These comic guys and businessmen are just fucking idiots. I mean, seriously, comics have had the entire world in their hands with their international blockbusters for what, over ten years now? And they still scrounge to get new readers! It's almost comical!
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>>71061409
>>71061329
I can relate to that I'm gay and I have this because even tho I don't get hard from it I know she's pretty.
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>>71050989
I fucking love Dean Yeagles work. Rock hard right now for Spidergwen!
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>>71072129
You know the theory why there is so many ugly celebrities and models is because of gay men.
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>>71071836
damn straight
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>>71072088
MTF game developer, made pic related, was one of the Gamergate "targets" which is funny because nobody knew or cared about her until she started screaming about getting death threats from nasty goobers.

She's been on mainstream news programs crying about the threats, internet, and magazine articles written about her (also about threats) and routinely blows up on twitter

Massive attention slut who has absolutely no reason to be in the public eye yet still is for some reason
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>>71071973
>>71071957
He used to be cool too, damn.
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>>71071966
To be fair, Movies don't have to worry about stereotypes, at the same time do we really want to appeal to the type of person who'll quit the medium because an artist makes sexy artwork.
It's pretty sad that comics got stereotyped this way and are now are trying really hard to distance themselves from any bad press that could link them to those stereotypes. So they have to be really uptight and sterile about everything.
Not that it's unfounded these kind of people they're trying to appeal to are the same kind that act like comics literally only depicted white guys until like a year ago.
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>>71072005
>you will never get ranma's curse
>and then a pail of permanence

Make it stop

>>71072035

I dunno, these kinds of beliefs are pretty common with these types.
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>>71066839
>I'd argue the developers used a pere-existing story and brought it back to life in the form of a video game.
Wait... does this guy think the DMC series are actually a faithful adaptation of Dante's Divine Comedy?

>The US bombed them back to traditional values
Quite the opposite actually. They were more "traditional" before WW2.

>Ferminism does not exist in Japan
Yes it does, since the early 20th century.

This bitch don't know shit and is vocal about it.
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>>71069586
>We must bully nerdy white kids more
>We must bully nerdy guys more
So I became an adult, just to deal with more bullying. Damn if I was a girl things would be easier.
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>>71071944
As far as I know back then
The only worthwhile civilisation in Europe which didn't fit the "painted barbarian big guy" stereotype were the Minoans, who were actually very peaceful
Egypt was the greatest "world power", followed by I think the Nubians, so much for "MUH EVIL WHITE OPRESSOR WHO HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER"
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>>71072186
Well if that's her game she must be a real old hand in the industry.
That has to be atmost early PS2 if even.
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>>71072129
You don't need to want to fuck it to recognize beauty.

>>71072199
This is done so nobody can call them out for being hypocrites and is SO ASSBLASTINGLY OBVIOUS the fact other people can't see it feels like an Emperor's New Clothes nightmare world
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>>71072200
Dante's Inferno, not DMC, dingus
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>>71072186
oh god, that looks hideous
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>>71072199
>I dunno, these kinds of beliefs are pretty common with these types.
Who cares about some douchebags being wrong.
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>>71069528
Coke and trying desperatelly to find an audience
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Does everyone here feel that his response was appropriate? I mean, he's a renown cheesecake author and all, but why throw more gas on a pointlessly large and out-of-control fire? It just strikes me as nonconstructive and incendiary.
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>>71072200
>Wait... does this guy think the DMC series are actually a faithful adaptation of Dante's Divine Comedy?
Pretty sure they were talking about the actual, factual Dante's Inferno game that came out and no doubt sent these kinds of people into a tizzy.

I might be wrong though.
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>>71072200
No she means Dante's Inferno.
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>>71070565
>this pic
you can't reason with a lunatic.
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>>71072242
Does he really think that Dante's Inferno is really a faithful adaptation of The Divine Comedy?
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>>71072255
Because a nigga can do what the fuck he wants to do.
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>>71072225
I can't tell if you're leading me on or not

Like if you do know but you want me to say it anyway

Repost cause derp
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>>71072186
>That one Kotaku article about this called "I Can't Get Enough of this Sexy Sci-Fi Thriller"
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>>71072225
Goddamnit I must be drunk
>>71072304
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>>71072242
>Beat'em all inspired by the exact same book
How did I get those confused?
Still not a faithful adaptation.
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>>71072321
>Sexy

Are there like... two kinds of sexuality? And we like the wrong one which is why they're so mad?
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>>71072291
>>71072330
it's not faithful by any stretch, but it's still an adaptation
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>>71067273
>>71067354
>>71067320
I remember being pretty fond of his art, not because of how it looks but because it was really expressive and made the girls seem a lot cuter.
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>>71072255
He's an artist.

Nonconstructive and incendiary responses are par for the course.

That said, his response feels appropriate. The written part at the very least, as he's saying there's no "controversy," which there isn't, it's just a few hypersensitive people, which they are, and a few journalists trying to bait him into a response, which they were. I suppose any response at all would've resulted in this stuff anyway.

The picture is there because, you know, artist. Why just write something when you can draw it too?
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>>71072255
Dude, the only reason this SJW shit got so out of hand is because so many people cave into them isntead mocking them as they would have an old republican or a religious nut. Making fun of them is exactly the way to go
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>>71072356
his JLI art is great
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>>71072200
She seems to be making some very idiotic mistakes on feminisim in Japan for someone who claims to be an expert on the subject.
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>>71072255
>Does everyone here feel that his response was appropriate?
Yes. Extremely appropriate.
To my dick
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>>71072385
she's just a mouthpiece for her husband, an actual lunatic
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>>71072255
Bit on the fence.
Got some nice art out of it and well it's nice not to see someone feel they need to apologize to the offended.
But yeah this wasn't exactly the most considerate or tactful way to say "I don't really care you're offended that I drew a hot chick for fun
>>71072356
Yeah Maguire's expressiveness is a real plus and he's unafraid to make characters look goofy.
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>>71048434
doesn't change the fact he's still a manchild
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>>71072193

You outlined the exact problem with it. It's a complete waste of time and just turns you into a stifled artist, constantly worrying about what the "normals" think of you.
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>>71072348
Yeah, but you can't brush off criticism by saying "it's an adaptation" when it's not faithful for shit.
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>>71072433
I think the main thrust is that blame shouldn't be laid wholly at the feet of the developers, since the idea isn't entirely theirs
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>>71072404
>But yeah this wasn't exactly the most considerate or tactful way to say "I don't really care you're offended that I drew a hot chick for fun

I really don't think he really cares about being considerate to these kinds of people.

Pic related, recent Obsidian fiasco drama, led a big campaign against a supposed "transmisogynistic" poem in a game.
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>>71072255
Absolutely, why should any creator ever submit to puritans?
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>>71072385
Ironically enough those type of bitches tend to be very ethnocentrict, since they don't know shit about the world beyond whatever they could use to argue their ideas.
Japanese women have progressed incredibly in the last 60 years, but she wouldn't know as her knowledge of Japan is limited to how lewd and violent their vidya is.
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>>71072199
If I could turn into a girl anytime at will I would do it, and be able to change back too. It'd be fun
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>>71072405
That manchild just blew you the fuck out pretty hard

Are you upset?
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>>71072493
A poem where a player jumps off a cliff for sleeping with someone with a dick is making fun of transexuals who get killed by their partners when they find out they still have penises

The more you know~
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>>71071890
It doesn't work they don't grow or develop at the same rate of my legs/butt. Plus my hip-to-waist ratio is ridiculous. I must have increased about 20kg on everything except exercises for arms and chest simply because I can't.

Also it doesn't help that I like my hair long.
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>>71072412
>constantly worrying about what the "normals" think of you.

This is why I think SJW are just teenagers stuck in a 20-30 year old's body, they're just very desperate to be accepted into society that they're the onles progapading the "basement dweller" stereotype by telling the whole world about it and how THEY are the ones trying to make the medium "grow up"
Most well-adjusted adults don't care what people think of their hobbies unless we're talking about more kinky shit.
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>>71072493
>as a function of marginalized anger
Jesus them buzzwords.
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Did you ever think we'd reach the point where Gail Simone could be considered a reasonable, moderate voice on social issues in comics?

Gail wrote some dumb stuff but for the most part the woman was well-meaning, just easily pressured and wanted to please her audience without realising they were histrionic lunatics who couldn't be pleased. And she's come around, if you look at her reaction to people shrieking over her continuing to write Babs after she got taken out of the wheelchair.

Now comics are full of lunatics like Cameron Stewart and the cunts mentioned in this thread who are outright divorced from reality in their beliefs and actively malicious in their intentions and actions.
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>>71072596
Well, she did call the SJWs filthy casuals, so she might be OK
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>>71072596
I liked Gail better when her books weren't about social issues in the first place. Shit like her Taskmaster, or Secret Six
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>>71061405
>>71061173
>>71059086

I met Cameron Stewart in Scotland years back and he was the biggest fucking wet blanket dweeb. It's pretty funny to see him act like a tough guy online these days knowing how much of a fanny he actually is in real life.
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>The 2020 olympics will kill anime and manga
>hundreds of news reports of news people and normalfags walking through underground akiba shops
>JAPAN IS WEIRD DISTURBING AND SEXIST! BAN EVERYTHING!
>government shuts down comiket and makes manga publishers remove all sex and violence

SUPPORT THE SAMURAI

>>71072551

Please keep doing whatever you're doing. It's incredibly hot.

>>71072555

Even the kinky stuff, of course you keep it to yourself, but do you actively shame yourself and others for liking them even in totally private spaces? That I think is the true mark of that kind of person - constantly feeling peer pressure even when they're in a totally private space, viewing some media (like when a normie watches some weeby anime). So they lash out at "the enemy" who they feel embodies everything bad in the world, hoping to drive them out and cleanse their own shame. It's all a shitshow.
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>>71072625
Batgirl wasn't really about social issues, despite trans roommate

it just wasn't very good
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>>71070435
>"let me tell you about a story of male privilege"
>"I got upgraded to First class for free"
Nice story.
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>>71072667
How much of a hand does Fletcher in the book considering it's just Stewart and Tarr everyone mentions?
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>>71072692
Babs actually keeps her mouth shut about pretty much everything, she just wants to draw pretty ladies and occasionally pretty dudes

CamStew is really the only member of the creative team sticking his head up his own ass and any SJW ass that might be nearby
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>>71048434
good on you cho
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>>71072396
That still doesn't explain the skill gap.

Isn't one of them supposed to have like a Masters degree in the subject?
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>>71070565
Holy shit she's so retarded it actually looks like something I'd find in a comedic movie.
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>>71072712
I meant in general. Like whenever the book gets any coverage
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>>71072681
Ironically this guy sounds pretty damn childish.
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>>71072732
Stewart is very clear that Batgirl is HIS BOOK, so he probably doesn't want Fletcher getting any nods
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>>71072681
I'm glad this guy with no ties to actual game development cares enough about the medium to call everyone involved in it children
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>>71072722
FYI, Masters degrees aren't that difficult to get. My university was basically handing them out just to get international students to transfer and pay them 4x the normal fees to enroll in courses
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>>71050781
>ISIS
Not even a joke, people on tumblr were attacking people for denouncing boko haram's latest manslaughter, calling them racists who don't understand the fight of opressed minorities.

So much for #bringbackourgirls fucking hypocrites.
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>>71072747

He is
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>>71072755
it depends on the subject

Education Master's can be a real bitch
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>>71072747
He's one of those faggots who think that when you grow up you have to be painfully dry and boring

ACT ADULT

As said by the immature
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>>71070993
not enough futa on male if you ask me 90% have nothing to do with males
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>>71072768
STEM Masters. So shit that was a bitch to pass on Bachelors alone. Masters would get free passes on shit. I had some classes with them in my final year, the work they put in compared to the crap everyone else did was fucking embarrassing. To say they half assed it was an understatement. Then they'd get higher marks than us for the same assignments, because lecturers were like lol free money
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>>71072722
Anita has a Bachelor's degree in Communication studies (kek). Communication specialists are more liable to lie right in your face if it serves their message that they are to actually know their subject matter.
I don't know who her husband is.
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>>71065564
Sure, but he wasn't wrong in that case.
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>>71072692
Flectcher writes the words, Stewart is co-plotter and layout artist, Tarr does the pencils and inks.
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>>71072762

They (as in, people like Mcintosh there) also said the hebdo killings, while bad, was still a case of oppressed minorities fighting against white privileged racist oppressors.
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>>71072818
Cabal sounds cool as shit.
I'd join a cabal
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>>71053444
Gwen Stacy has two children
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>>71072818
Who is this and why should I care?
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>>71072625

Secret Six ongoing book started that road for her, especially the second half of the book.
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Frank Cho confirmed for high-test alpha.
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>>71072681
>Meh I disagree that the vast majority are childish but fair enough
>Whats wrong with saturday morning cartoons?
>Fuck you, Super Meat Boy was great.
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>>71051000
After going from hetero to bi to finally accepting my faggotry. I've learned there's notthing women hate more than homosexuality.
The only power they have over men is their sexual avaliability, once you make it dead set they don't have any sexual value to you, they act like you're evil incarnate.
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>>71072885
Is that his first or second wife? Cause his first wife was a chubster too
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>go to blog of some person bitching about steven universe fanart
>there's a post mentioning they got triggered by frog memes
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>>71072896
How did you go from hetero to bi
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>>71072905
>rising sun flag scared her
is this 1942
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>>71072905
How the fuck do you get triggered by Pepe?
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>>71072770
>>71072765
Jesus, dude's a cunt
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>>71072818
>>71072825
Hey guys, whats going on in this thr-
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>>71072681
>Please keep doing whatever you're doing. It's incredibly hot
ok

Does squatting really increase your butt more than other exercises? Cause I'm still about to implement squatting on my routine.
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>>71072924
/pol/ was right, the jews AND their pets truly fear the samurai
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>>71072905
>>71072927
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1gxb2Hr0OkU
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>>71072885
She looks pretty cute
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>podcast with a black girl
>told her about this
>she called all the people complaining no assed bitches and faggots
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>>71051160
I liked tumblr more when it was 60% shitty porn gifs, 40% teaching girls to conceal their anorexia.
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>>71072681
>government shuts down comiket and makes manga publishers remove all sex and violence
Will it kill moeblobs? If it does I don't care if good anime die too
Moeshit is literally the worst cancer on this eart, worse than Bronies or any shit like that, it's spawn of satan
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>>71054718
but this isn't an opinion these are just facts.
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>>71072905
>the japanese one really scared me
WHAT

>>71072923
I'm sure he can help you experience it firsthand, anon

>>71072929
He's actually pretty normal compared to the new crew, looking back. He's just angry 24/7, never ever happy about anything, a permanent twitter warrior. Also still crazy.
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>>71072980
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>>71072951
You are a retarded and don't know shit about fitness, a fucking full on female can develop torso more than lower body if needed
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>>71072896
>once you make it dead set they don't have any sexual value to you, they act like you're evil incarnate.
Not all of them though. I mean even as a hetero there are bound to be women that don't attract you, and not all of them will resent you for it.
Just saying.
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>>71073001

Yes, /v/, all the evil moeblobs will die, you will have all the manime you want.

>>71073023

That post sounds like mansplaining to me, anon!
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>>71072998
it's still mostly porn
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>>71072896
>going from hetero to bi to finally accepting my faggotry.
As in you never got laid and got desperate
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>>71073010
>it's not a coincidence that control is central to many video game mechanics and story
Wlll it IS an interactive media.
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>>71067997
>FIFTY BILLION
So every woman who have ever lived = instantly oppressed for being woman?
Man, making numbers out of your own ass and believing then sure must be a fucking charm.
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>>71073043
>Yes, /v/
Correct
> all the evil moeblobs will die, you will have all the manime you want.
Awesome, though it will work out only if all the images of shit like Clannad will just get erased for ever
Also will this force Tohu to die or at least get a fucking good artist?
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>>71073083
Don't forget the
>4 out of 5 women in your life have been raped
statistic they were using at one point
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>>71073043
Well I'm a man explaining to someone else something I feel I know better than them.
It is manspalining.
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>>71072900
This is his second wife. She was originally his assistant as seen here >>71073011.

The man love chubs on his women. They should have praised him for not giving into the patriarchal beauty standard.
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>>71073077

Because of patriarchy.
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>>71073121
Some of them would just dismiss it as a fetish, same way they do with white dudes dating black women.
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>>71073136
Jesus, it's amazing how many people on the internet think they're clever.
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>>71072255
Maybe 10 years ago I would think his response was nonconstructive and incendiary.

But now? I think it's somewhat appropriate given how stupid the need for controversies has gotten on Twitter and elsewhere.
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>>71069866
>implying
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>>71051928
>That sign is exactly what I'd expect to find in the Fable world, the ass-cleavage thing looks like an outfit from a Fable game
Wish we could be that whimsical IRL instead of all the soggy knees and triggers and shit.
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>>71072255

Give them an inch and they take a mile. There's a growing social movement over the past few years and the solution is to mock them and make them feel irrelevant and stupid, not concede to them.
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>>71073244
Except it's not a social movement. It took me time to figure it out, because it came with a disguised face.

This is not not a social movement, this is not even Feminism, even if it try to pass for it. It's quite the opposite, actually. This recent movement of trying to shame those who represent fictional characters too sexily is actually no recent at all, it's just a strong return of Puritanism, with a new face.
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>>71073011
She seems nice.
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>>71073136
but I can also control Mario's actions, anda ton of other male characters
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>>71073365

Well those are male power fantasies, which is misogynistic because they're designed to oppress women.

Don't think you can win, anon.
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>>71061769
>colunteer at a soup kitchen.
holy shit how much of a douchebag you have to be to say that, what does that even have to do with anything.
also
>if you dont buy this shitty game and suport this shitty studio that bully its core fans, you are raving imbeciles.
holy hell.
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>>71072255

Compared to the standard response 4chan has to this kind of shit, Cho looks like some kind of diplomatic zen master. I admit that might not be the best metric to gauge by, buy I'm still not too concerned.
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>>71067321
>women in media have it pretty nice

Hahahahahaha

Can you do something for me? Follow this link

http://www.japancrush.com/2014/stories/fans-sued-for-dating-idol-group-members-netizens-disapprove.html

You meant creative personnel, but women have it bad
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>>71049662
"Someone is disagreeing with me?

LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA LA!"
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>>71060826
It's hilarious how idiots can't differentiate between criticism and censorship
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>>71073213
But you can... just depends on who you associate with.
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>>71073492

The people who installed the code criticized comics too.

What makes you think they don't want to install a new code? I mean, you must hate women if you don't want one. Comics need to grow up.
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>>71073521
I could've sworn comics have grown up at least twice since 1938
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>>71053556
Adam Hughes' wife has also told facebook SJWs to go fuck themselves and that she administrates Adam's social media so he can keep his merry ways of drawing gorgeous ladies without ever being exposed to their vile.
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>>71073492
Then why did the """criticism""" follow Cho all the way to his personal fucking blog?
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>>71073448
Idols aren't exactly representative of "women in media". Although admittedly the whole idol concept is fucked up nonetheless.
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>>71073022
>if needed
Who said anything about being needed? I'm simply increasing the weights once they get too easy, it simply happens that it's much easier for me to develope my glutes/thighs than my chest/arms.

Of course I could just lighten the exercises for my legs, but why would I do that?
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>>71073561
because you want to even out?
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>>71073556
Because by "don't do it where we can see it", it includes the internet. And real life.
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>>71073536
Not enough, it seems. They're still all stuck in the past and are childish shit dominated by white men (ugh). We as a community need to Evolve and Progress for the medium to truly Become Art.

>>71073549
Clearly she's got some internalized misogyny going on.

>>71073556
Because artists who objectify women need to be brought into the light and exposed as the misogynists they are. Their employers need to know they are supporting misogynists by continuing to employ him, and it needs to stop.

Just criticizing though! We all want comics to improve, right? We just need to get rid of the gross stuff first!
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>>71049662
>cookies, coloring books, bubbles, Play-doh, videos of frolicking puppies
What the fuck?
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>>71073567
That's the point, do I? I'm legitimately wondering what will increase my chances of attracting dudes.
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>>71073587

Sadly, there are people who actually say this without being sarcastic.

They also tend to be people who don't actually read the comics they want to "improve."
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>>71073521
The equation of criticism (specifically, of the social role of comics) with censorship comes from a position of insecurity..

Censoring fetish stuff like Big 2 comics or Red Sonja won't fix anything, and will hurt artistic freedom. The only surefire way to counter bad art like cape comics is to enjoy good art. That way you can be content with existing good art.

People who use this argument also sidestep the real instances of censorship, most famously on campuses. Despite trumpeting the aesthetic values of their comics, you end up confirming that comics are weird softcore porn. Artistic freedom is never brought up in discussions like this, because comics readers recognise the inadequacy of their favoured art.
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>>71049662
Westerners are such god damn pussies
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>>71073597
attract dudes based on personality, not looks
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>>71073597

You're doing great
Go work on that ass, boy
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>>71073612
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>>71073627
>framed tweet
Autism is real
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>>71073617
And by personality, I mean dicksucking ability.


>>71073627
My favorite JP character design bit was after Bayonetta came out, there was an assload of porn. And the character designer, who if I recall is a woman mind you objected--- Because the porn depicted Bayonetta as a sub, when she's a massive dom.
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>>71048434
AHAHAHA fucking based
>>71051267
fucking shit i'm upset how sensitive people are these days but i'm glad there's some with humor
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>>71073627
>framed a tweet
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>>71054394
>If I were marvel, I'd want to keep any employees the HELL away from anything that might start a fight and put the Comicon in the wrong kind of news.
If I was Marvel I'd pay ComicCon to sit them next to each other at artist alley.
Humble Robbie the fuck off by seeing how far he is from Cho's populaity, charisma and sales pull.
And how much of a pussy he himself is because he'd mouse around all day and not even make eye-contact with Frank.
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>>71073617
That's only part of it when I get a bf I want to give him a full package.

Still my question stands, does squatting develops your butt really all that faster/better than let's say, leg press?
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Comics fans crowing about a new Comics Code Authority are the weirdest fucking people. All of their favourite artwork exist only because the Code caused superheores to dominate the medium of funnybooks, which led through a historical process to all the characters and stories they love.

It's pretty obvious by how these fans only ever talk about superhero comics. Cape comics are good in spite of being cape comics, in general. But they nevertheless engage in a "war" over the portrayal of superheroes, because they've latched themselves to the medium's garbage: overhyped corporate ephemera.

>>71073627
They both sound bad bad. Kojima seems to think that creating a character is like creating an RPG character. But he's a professional artist, so I assume that he's mainly considering their role in the aesthetic whole.
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>>71073627
Man, has anyone ever seen the video where they're interviewing one of the character designers for MGS, and he's talking about Vamp and Raiden?
It's hilarious.
>Kojima a told me that Raiden would be an extremely effeminate and pretty man
>I thought he was joking
>I soon learned that he was not
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>>71073608
>fetish stuff like Big 2 comics
getaloadofthisguycam.jpg
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>>71073663

They apologized and took down the image, anon.
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>>71073679
if /fit/ (and SIR) are to be believed, squats are the source of the proverbial gloots 4 tha sloots
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>>71073136
Yes Jon, CONTROL over a character's actions is what distinguishes modeo games from movies
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>>71073647
You're only scratching the surface.
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>>71073687
>no one responded the first time
>just start rambling
at least you're easy to filter
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>>71052998
I'm fine if a character is meant to be chubby or fat or whatever. Squirrel Girl was never that way before though.

Why she is praising SG's booty makes no sense. That isn't a booty, it's her tail. So how does that make it a great booty?
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>>71073687
>Kojima seems to think that creating a character is like creating an RPG character. But he's a professional artist, so I assume that he's mainly considering their role in the aesthetic whole.
You read it wrong: he's trying ot make money here. Emphasize *professional* artist.
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>>71073700

Because Control = Oppression.

That's why the best games give you no control. Especially over innocent fictional characters like Bayonetta. they don't deserve to be puppeted around by straight white misogynists like you.
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>>71073687
>Comics fans crowing about a new Comics Code Authority are the weirdest fucking people. All of their favourite artwork exist only because the Code caused superheores to dominate the medium of funnybooks, which led through a historical process to all the characters and stories they love.

You can enjoy Superheroes but in small doses; most of my vavorite comics aren't even from Marvel/DC (unless you count Vertigo as part of DC)
I for one am glad we've been seeing so much more variety since the 90's.
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>>71073733
>not counting Vertigo as part of DC
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>>71073699
well now I'm anxious to start the thing
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>>71073706
Oh boy you don't even know. Just wait a while he'll start rambling about how people should suicide-bomb Marvel's office.
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>>71073627
>tfw I'm not Anthony Burch

This simply realization could cure major depressive disorder.
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>>71072255

cool concerntrolling, sjw bro
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>>71073731
sorry, I may be the only one but when I was playing Bayonetta I was never actually looking at her when I had control and it wasn't a cutscene.

It's a game, and if it's not a treasure chest or an enemy I'm not looking at or for it.
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>>71073627
Kojima is king.
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>>71069586

The nerdy white men's internet was fun, and not a joyless cuntfest

Is that why these people hate it so much?
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>>71073709
Beats me.
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>>71053088
>that Grey DeLisle favorite
I lost it.
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>>71057057
Then rethink those tax laws. Marriage should be marginalized to a private personal matter.
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>>71072404

goddomot fronk
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>>71055116
Kind Storyteller is pretty based.
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>>71073733
And we'll see more variety once gross icky stuff like Cho is gone, and comics become more artistic and friendlier to everyone, especially women readers. Women hate that gross icky shit. Well, the enlightened ones do anyhow!

>>71073747
If minorities do it, wouldn't it be Righteous Indignation and essentially social justice? I mean, it'd be them getting rid of evil white male oppressors who are feeding the public with bigoted propaganda 24/7. That's what happened with Hebdo right?

>>71073764
"In short, the more you think you cannot be affected, the more likely you are to be affected." - Anita Sarkeesian

It's insidious deeply programmed coded messages, you probably don't even realize how much you've been conditioned to accept it BECAUSE you're so far gone into the hole of toxic masculinity already.

Young one, you must cleanse yourself of the poison and accept the teachings, if you are ever to be saved!
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>>71073557
No smoke without fire. Obviously there are women who get through the system, but consider this: one of the most popular sectors of Japanese popular media is exploitation of young women (the music is really secondary to the "idol" experience), and it's run by organised crime. What does that say about Japan?
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>>71073803
Storytime namefags are fine if they drop the names once storytime is over
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>>71051928
SJWs generally don't actually play the games, read the comics, or watch the movies that they like to complain about. They just like to bitch.
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>>71069534

>>71070166
>Comics need to GROW UP, FOR ONCE!! And comic readers need to grow the FUCK up! Then the masses will like us! You know, the masses? Who are extremely intelligent and have refined tastes?


Someone should mention to Robbi Rodriguez that the biggest movie in the country right now is Furious 7

The one with like, five thousand ass shots interspersed between scenes where they parachute cars out of airplanes
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>>71073824
It was a good movie dammit.
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>>71073824
He'll probably just block you. Cause he's not double alpha
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>>71073777
I also don't think "large butt" automatically equals "awesome butt". I tried to find some of old SG's butt, but found this.
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>>71071084
>Begone, before someone drops a house on you, too.
Ouch.
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>>71073841

THAT'S A LOTTA NUTS!
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>>71073808
We can already see more variety. Manga, despite the herculean heaps of garbage produced, already has more interesting, varied, and artistically stronger comics than cape comics. When the Big 2 hopefully collapse, something new will arise in its place.
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>>71073810
Japan also abuses the fuck out of men as well.

And as far as America goes, does the name Dan Schneider ring a bell?
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>>71073857
how many nuts? would you say *whoosh* ten million?
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>>71052091
>Flash Thompson with spider powers
Not in a million years.
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>>71073866
that man is a monster!
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>>71073815
Also notice how much /co/ and other nerds care about them. 4chan has largely internalised Tumblr ideas, and not in the sense that "SJWs" come to /co/. 4channers keep discussing about how "triggering" some material is, how something will piss of SJWs, and use the same language (except "ironically") as tumblrites.
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>>71073808
>If minorities do it, wouldn't it be Righteous Indignation and essentially social justice? I mean, it'd be them getting rid of evil white male oppressors who are feeding the public with bigoted propaganda 24/7. That's what happened with Hebdo right?
I don't even know the point you're trying to make anymore. Strawmanning is not that funny or interesting, dude.
btw Freedonia is an anarchist faggot, not a SJW faggot.
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>>71073810

How is this different from the american celebrity system, especially starlets? Spears shaved her fucking head, lohan turned into a crack whore, happens over and over
We're not really talking about that celebrity culture anyways, we're talking about comic books and shit, they still do way fucking better than the west regardless of their society, which is kind of funny really.
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>>71073866
>Japan also abuses the fuck out of men as well.

Nobody who argues this actually argues against abuse of men, but implicitly try to justify abuse in general. Whenever somebody brings up abuse of women, they chime in with "men are also abused" and that's supposed to end the conversation.

Anti-feminists ironically don't care much about men. They just halfheartedly complain about abuse and think that's enough. It's like how Tumblrites try to justify things by "problematizing" them: if I think there's something bad going, thinks the tumblrite, I'm a better person for it.
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>>71073841
It does to me.You honkies are too damn picky.
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>>71050387
>Gamergate

You mean the "Let's pretend that devs give blojobs to journalists in return for good review" movement? They started out harassing some woman over BJs and got lumped into the general background noise of guys sending rape threaths to Tropes VS Women and other babbies first media analysis ventures.
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>>71073891
That guy just screams creep.
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>>71069327
They're a minority....but they scream very loudly.
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>>71052900
Wait, is this seriously not a parody?
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>>71073912
Japanese idol industry is just the logical endpoint, where the exploitative entertainment system is run by actual honest-to-god mobsters.

Your argument is that terrible things aren't that bad because, hey, things are bad here too!
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>>71073891
the face of fear
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>>71073810
Almost exactly nothing. US porn as an industry is way larger than the Jap idol industry, to say nothing about erotica or fucked up shit that are basically idols (your Disney Club starlettes).

Most women (like, 99+%) who work in the entertainment industry in Japan are not idols, and idols' experiences do not represent theirs.
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>>71073930
I'm surprised you didn't throw in a goobergarb or something similar in there
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>>71073894
Is this one of those epic "4chan and sjws are the two sides of the same coin!" arguments?
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>>71073940
Kate Leth is a huge fat retard, of course it's not parody
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>>71073841
>I also don't think "large butt" automatically equals "awesome butt"
Well that's because you aren't a woman who is anxious about not being pretty enough to be the princess.
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>>71073925
Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ImZTwYwCug
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>>71073957
Anon come on, that's not fair. You can't just call Kate Leth a retard. That's an insult to actual retards. Even they're not as bad as Leth
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>>71073861
>All genres of manga have more genre diversity than 1 genre of comics
You don't fucking say?
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>>71073448
>>71073810

Female idols are only a small facet of the idol industry. Young boy idols are just as large, if not larger, and have a history of sexual abuse in their industry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_%26_Associates
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>>71073922
>>71073941
>and that's supposed to end the conversation.

If the conversation is about how something is sexist even though both genders get in shit, then doesn't it? It doesn't excuse the abuse but not how you're framing it.

Also, if both countries abuses celebrities which proves they're misogynist, but one country still has far more female made and aimed media than the other, then what does that mean?

>>71073930

The chief of Kotaku himself officially confirmed they had sexual relations and that Grayson plugged her paypal in an article at the same time. You don't do that in a professional setting.

Also you need to do more baby babbling to sound more legitimate.
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>>71052900
>still going on about Robin Thicke
why
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>>71073964
Watching this video again (it's been a long time), none of those asses are especially large. At least by the fat ass standards that get pushed nowadays.
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>>71072681
>videogames will always be considered child's toys

And this is bad why?
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>>71073975
I think you might have hit on the point there, champ

>>71073976
Once again proving what a good model Japan is for arguments of gender equality: everyone is fucked
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>>71073995
because now REAL ADULTS are interested in them and they should now only cater to REAL ADULTS
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>>71073975

How many magazines and sales and readers do those other genres get
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>>71073922
>they chime in with "men are also abused" and that's supposed to end the conversation

That's because feminists present it as a gendered issue. That's also why the "MRAs" are so threatening to them. Can't have those evil MRAs undermine the agenda and smudge the narrative.
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>>71074000

It's not about what people like. It's about what people should like.
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>>71074000
>If comics want to be a popular medium they should spend less time kowtowing to pissy SJWs and more time being the Furious 7s of comic books.
Anon I don't think I can handle another Furious 7 ending in comics. It'll start raining again
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>>71054079
Jesus fucking christ I am so god damn triggered right now. What the hell was Cho thinking when he made this? This is an affront to everything I believe in.

Yoda's lightsaber is GREEN!
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>>71073941
This has gotten really far from the actual discussion, which is: women in the entertainment industry have it better in Japan.
Notice nobody is saying there's nothing wrong ever with Japanese entertainment (who the fuck would say that?).

Also
>implying there's that much of a difference between mobsters and hollywood execs
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>>71048434
Cho is fucking based. The hero we deserve and we need right now.
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>>71054496
Is that Edward Norton in the back-right?
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>>71051112
It's doxing and yeah she was a part of Helldump, which specialized in full scale life-ruin tactics.
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>>71073904

Who's strawmanning?
It just about getting rid of the source of The Problem, right?
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>>71074015

You don't have to worry about furious 7 endings in comics because Stan Lee is never going to die
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>>71073834
It was a fantastic fucking movie

A fantastic fucking movie with five thousand ass shots interspersed between car-parachuting scenes

If comics want to be a popular medium they should spend less time kowtowing to pissy SJWs and more time being the Furious 7s of comic books.
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>>71074048
>Stan Lee driving around
>CGI Kirby pulls up next to him
>Wiz Khalifa starts playing in the background
Don't think I could handle those feels
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>>71073980
>If the conversation is about how something is sexist even though both genders get in shit, then doesn't it? It doesn't excuse the abuse but not how you're framing it.

The "men are abused too" is used to nullify feminism: if abuse exists in general, the this specific form of abuse isn't a problem. In this case, sexism cannot exist in Japan because Japan is in general a shitty place.

This is of course a completely absurd statement, and illustrates the thought process of anti-feminists: it's a kind of conservative acceptance of inequality. "It just how things are." Feminists try to question if things are supposed to be like they are just because, so anti-feminists try to stamp them out by saying that things are like that, just because.

>Also, if both countries abuses celebrities which proves they're misogynist, but one country still has far more female made and aimed media than the other, then what does that mean?

It just says that terrible things happen in a country, but some people break through. You don't seem to realise that America has plenty of people in creative industries.
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>>71074003
>I think you might have hit on the point there, champ
What the fuck is the point? That he doesn't read comics that aren't cape, so they don't count?

>>71074007
How is that a viable argument considering fighting shonen are by and large the biggest manga sellers as well? Yes, some genre are niche in the Western world, and they are in Japan aswell.
By the way, 4 of the top 10 sellers for february were non-capes, including #1, 2 and 4. Well Vader wears a cape, but still. And that's just the US, which are the most cape-centric of the western world.
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>>71074068
>In this case, sexism cannot exist in Japan because Japan is in general a shitty place.

And nobody said this. Why do you think anybody would ever say japan doesn't have sexism? Why? What is wrong with you?

> You don't seem to realise that America has plenty of people in creative industries.

And Japan has far more female comic creators and more comics aimed for women. This was the actual point of the discussion.
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>>71074011
>That's because feminists present it as a gendered issue. That's also why the "MRAs" are so threatening to them. Can't have those evil MRAs undermine the agenda and smudge the narrative.

MRAs don't care about the abuse. It's just a way for them to score points against feminists. Anti-feminists hate the idea of "gendered issues" because they lean conservative and want to believe that things are natural and "right" because of that.

MRAs employ(ed) this weird revisionist history where everything is bad because of feminists. Like custody cases favouring women over men. In their mind it's nost because women have been given a role in society as mothers and caretakers, it's because women stole it from men.
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>>71074093
Why are you responding to this idiot? He's baiting you
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>>71074047
>Who's strawmanning?
You are. You're making it seem like someone here is arguing those things, mainly yourself.
Got get angry at people who actually say those things on twitter or something.
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>>71074097
You're implying that MRAs exist to "cancel out" feminists, which is a ridiculous claim. Both feminists and MRAs share similar goals, but feminists are the ones who go out of their way to attack MRAs.

Conflating MRAs with "anti-feminists" is extremely ignorant and disingenuous and I'm starting to wonder if you're just trolling at this point.
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>>71074092
>What the fuck is the point? That he doesn't read comics that aren't cape, so they don't count?

Because despite being a single genre, comic fans still allow cape comics to dominate the market and their fandom. Like how many 100 bullets retrospective threads there are compared to talking about the latest costume change.

>>71074093
>And nobody said this. Why do you think anybody would ever say japan doesn't have sexism? Why? What is wrong with you?

It is the argument Sexism can't exist because both genders have it bad:

>If the conversation is about how something is sexist even though both genders get in shit, then doesn't it?

The idea that the genders can have it bad in different ways is somehow alien to these people.

>And Japan has far more female comic creators and more comics aimed for women. This was the actual point of the discussion.

In a specific industry, granted.
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>>71074130
You know, I don't think I've ever been happy to see a dickgirl pic before. thanks anon.
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>>71074068
>The "men are abused too" is used to nullify feminism: if abuse exists in general, the this specific form of abuse isn't a problem.
No dude, if abuse exists in general, that means that sexism is not the reason abuse exists, and thus not the thing to stop if you want to stop abuse, not that abuse doesn't matter.

I'm amazed you got so far with this idea without realizing that, you narrative-driven faggot.
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>>71066839

Yes, she has demonstrated that she doesn't know much about Japan previously already when she failed to contextualize the Bajonetta campaign poster correctly. It's not like this fail comes as a surprise.
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>>71074167

Stop criticizing her.
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>>71073922
>Nobody who argues this actually argues against abuse of men, but implicitly try to justify abuse in general. Whenever somebody brings up abuse of women, they chime in with "men are also abused" and that's supposed to end the conversation.

SJWs say this because the SJWs, themselves, give zero shits about the abuse of men, and can't imagine anyone ever not giving zero shits about the abuse of men.
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>>71074148
Freedonia just wants to write long-form think pieces about how right he is about everything, not actually get into an argument

it's best not to respond, as with every tripfag
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>>71074138
>Because despite being a single genre, comic fans still allow cape comics to dominate the market and their fandom.
Which isn't a viable argument, as the manga market is also dominated by one washed-up generic genre: fightng shonens.
Of course other genres exist, but they also do for western comics.

>Like how many 100 bullets retrospective threads there are compared to talking about the latest costume change.
>using 4chan as a measure of whether something is popular or not irl (and in fucking Japan)
Jesus fuck Freedonia, get out of your house once in a while.
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>>71074186

Stop replying
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>>71074097
> Like custody cases favouring women over men. In their mind it's nost because women have been given a role in society as mothers and caretakers, it's because women stole it from men.

This is factually correct though. Men historically had automatic custody of their children. It was reversed by feminists.
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>>71074124
>You're implying that MRAs exist to "cancel out" feminists, which is a ridiculous claim. Both feminists and MRAs share similar goals, but feminists are the ones who go out of their way to attack MRAs.

The thing is that MRAs don't actually support men's rights; they support men's rights against women.

One of the complaints MRAs would bring up was many men die in wars (ignoring the civilian casualties, as in their minds male soldiers were the real victims of war). Or how custody cases favour women over men. Or accusations of rapes aimed at men. For them, "men's rights" were something to be won from women. I've seen MRAs bring up how doing the dangerous and dirty jobs made them naturally superior, and just "justified" sexism.

But "men's rights" can't be won from women- We have a word for people who campaign for men's rights: they're called socialists.
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>>71074186
>Of course other genres exist, but they also do for western comics.

Where's the western shoujo industry
(female cape comics don't count)
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>>71074198
Not until you stop posting your comicgate-bait twitter posts, faggot.
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>>71073810

It says they have organized crime and that organized crime is involved in various industries, the way it is in every industrialized nation on Earth.

If you have an issue with organized crime, great, but that has jack shit worth of a point to do with feminism, it has to do with organized crime.

Like by definition it's outside the scope of what feminism can do because feminists are about changing laws and organized crime

follow along with me now

*does not obey the law*

This is some real simple shit that you should be able to figure out
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>>71074203
>The thing is that MRAs don't actually support men's rights

The thing is that feminists don't actually support women's rights. ;^)

I know you're trolling now, so I'll leave you a little present.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_X4DkwA_Q
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>>71074212
Female cape comics. Oh that doesn't count? By who's standards?
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>>71074130
This is gold, now tweet it at the Spider-Gwen artist that lost his shit over the cover.
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>>71074138
>It is the argument Sexism can't exist because both genders have it bad:

Yeah idiot, that would pretty well mean that sexism doesn't exist, and that the problem isn't sexism, but some other thing that affects both genders.

Shit, you people are dumb.
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>>71074198

Self-trepanate
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>>71074148
>No dude, if abuse exists in general, that means that sexism is not the reason abuse exists, and thus not the thing to stop if you want to stop abuse, not that abuse doesn't matter.

It's only used to shut up discussion about sexism. Like you're doing now. But the discussion about abuse won't actually continue.

>narrative-driven faggot

This perfectly encapsulates the naive conservatism people here hold. They ignore that narrativity is the dominant form of human communication. Of course they mean "false narratives", but like "ideology", only their opponents can be "narrative-driven" and "ideological", because they themselves can never have arbitrary ideas or thoughts, they're always right, aren't they?

>>71074186
>Which isn't a viable argument, as the manga market is also dominated by one washed-up generic genre: fightng shonens.

But manga in general has more variety, outside of the top 10 best sellers. Even the shonen series.

>generic genre

Uhh....
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>>71074212
Shoujo is a demographic, not a genre. And no, genres from one side don't actually transfer one to one to the other, that doesn't mean there's only 1 genre in western comic.
Where is Japan's pulp industry? Where is Japan's adult comedy industry? Where's Japan's equivalent to Cerebus or Blueberry?

But if you want an actual response: in France (because France shamelessly copies manga styles and tropes, not that there's anything wrong with that).
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>>71074278
>Where is Japan's pulp industry?

Doujins?
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>>71074276
>only their opponents can be "narrative-driven" and "ideological",

Like how you've called everybody MRA conservatives who believe that there is no sexism in japan period, at the tip of a hat?
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>>71073627

This brings up a worthwhile point, which is that the sexy costumes that SJWs are most inclined to bitch about seem to also be the overwhelmingly most popular when it comes to what women choose to cosplay.

In fact there are a bunch of examples I've seen where the orignal costume wasn't sexy enough, so the cosplayer went and slutted it up a few notches by adding a bared midriff / more revealing top on her own.
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>>71074289
Arguable, I guess, but doujins can be anything. Might aswell cite a webcomic as an example of western shoujo.
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>>71074303
Those are just poor victims of rape culture who don't know any better.
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>>71074303

You really don't fucking get it yet, do you

INTERNALYZED.

MISOGYNY.
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>>71074097
>MRA
>Anti-feminist

Feminist detected.

>Courts are actually stacked against men in custody cases.
>It's the fault of the victims of the injustice.

See above.
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>>71074253
>Yeah idiot, that would pretty well mean that sexism doesn't exist, and that the problem isn't sexism, but some other thing that affects both genders.

Idiots can't seem to realise that different people have different problems. Feminism tackles gender relations. Socialism tackles rights in general.

In this case, idiots are afraid that because sexism is acknowledged, it means that other problems won't be. Like you: "sexism isn't the problem, it's some vague force that makes things bad for everyone. Shut up about sexism!"

I mean, that you think sexism is a problem that only affects women just proves your imbecility. It creates a dysfunctional society, but it's just a "gendered issue" so it only affects women (ironically a sexist line of thinking in itself).
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>>71074313
Just filter the tripfag, he's just a shitposter screaming about ebul 4chan conservatives.
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>>71074303
>which is that the sexy costumes that SJWs are most inclined to bitch about seem to also be the overwhelmingly most popular when it comes to what women choose to cosplay.

Man, I've probably been on the internet WAY too long if I know the awnser to this one is "Internalised misoginy"

Basically to modern feminist, feminism isn't about women doing what they want, it's about doing what modern feminists want them to do.
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>>71074325

I don't really agree with this sort of thing usually but yeah he's really rolling around in his own feces at this point and it seems best to leave him to it, there are enough coherent people ITT to respond to.
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>>71074276
Which is funny, because instead of actually addressing the issues of abuse if occurring on both sides, you're attempting to shut it up by attributing it to sexism.

I know you're trolling, but it's funny how real hyper-liberals tend to turn a blind eye in regards to that. Acceptable targets, and whatnot.
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>>71074302
This is an example of a false narrative. I am not the one who even brought up "MRAs".

>>71074313
>It's the fault of the victims of the injustice.

This is the kind of extreme compartmentalization that I'm talking about: men are victims of injustice*, so therefore feminism is wrong and sexism is not a real problem.

*custody is sually decided by mutual agreement. As it favours women having custody, it indicates that men have internalised sexism: they think that they're worse caretakers than women. It's an example of how sexism hurts men.
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>>71074276
>It's only used to shut up discussion about sexism. Like you're doing now. But the discussion about abuse won't actually continue.
No what I'm doing now is telling you you're an idiot. Sexism does still exist but it isn't the primary reason for abuse. We can discuss sexism or abuse but you seem to have no interest in doing that either, just showing that your position is right and righteous.

>This perfectly encapsulates the naive conservatism people here hold.
Will you stop it with the ad hominems, you retard? I'm a leftist and I was recently arguing alongside you that the "issues with gaming journalism" come from capitalism, not SJWs.

>They ignore that narrativity is the dominant form of human communication.
You ignore that my post pertained to how your *logic* (not your communication) is narrative-driven, meaning you ignored the simple logical explanation for one that fits what you're trying to communicate.

>Of course they mean "false narratives", but like "ideology", only their opponents can be "narrative-driven" and "ideological", because they themselves can never have arbitrary ideas or thoughts, they're always right, aren't they?
Re-read your posts about MRAs and realize you are exactly what you loathe.
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>>71049078
So, the "we have tried to reach Cho for comment" means they're one of the sites he was talking about, right?
BTFO before they even published, kek
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>>71074303
Didn't Axel say Captain Marvel's costume was changed so his daughter could cosplay as her?
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>>71074309

I don't know, their doujin scene is an industry in itself.

>>71074339

Feminists knows better.
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>>71053948
Eh. There was a whole thing with the Greens wanting to decriminalise pedophilia, but IIRC it's 16 in Germany, France, Netherlands and Belgium.
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>>71074365
>Which is funny, because instead of actually addressing the issues of abuse if occurring on both sides, you're attempting to shut it up by attributing it to sexism.

The problem is that men's rights in general fall under socialism. MRAs conceive men's rights as something won from feminists and women. War, labour rights, etc are just ways to score points against feminists.
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>>71074276
>But manga in general has more variety, outside of the top 10 best sellers.
Prove it.
Fucking prove it instead of keeping repeating it like a fucking parrot.

The main reason people would think that is either bias or ignorance.

>Uhh....
Yes, I wrote a Lapalissade, how gruesome and totally a justification to not actually answer the point.
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>>71073687
>Kojima seems to think that creating a character is like creating an RPG character.

And he's right. You want your character to be visually interesting and to immediately pop out from others. Being sexy is one of the best ways to do this.
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>>71068851
You are not defined by what you are, you are defined by who you are. Tumblr doesn't get this. You, at your core, are not a half-arab trans-female bisexual moonkin who crusades for free speech. You're probably an over sensitive whiny person with a crippling need for attention. The second part is far more relevant to the character of a person than the first thing.

It doesn't matter if the generic faceless protagonist is white, black or trans-nigger otherkin. What does matter and what defines them as a character is how they treat others, how they deal with their struggles and how they triumph in their goals.

Gender and sexual orientation are bad things to focus on, since it creates a male, female or gay character, and those are the characters who are most heavily scrutinized. If you are writing a character who is a veteran from a PMC who has crippling bouts of PTSD, but also has a caring side due to picking up an orphan, does it really matter if it's a male or a female? I don't think it does. Characters are characters. Separating them into Male and Female characters is a mistake that does nothing but reinforce generic stereotypes that everyone hates.
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>>71074376
>Will you stop it with the ad hominems, you retard? I'm a leftist and I was recently arguing alongside you that the "issues with gaming journalism" come from capitalism, not SJWs.

Oh god, I thought I was alone.

>You ignore that my post pertained to how your *logic* (not your communication) is narrative-driven, meaning you ignored the simple logical explanation for one that fits what you're trying to communicate.

Logic is a form of narrative, you doofus.

>Re-read your posts about MRAs and realize you are exactly what you loathe.

Of course I follow narratives and ideologies. I'm human.
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>>71048748
"...Boarder on criminal"...? Good god.
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>>71049344
>be lucky you're never be around me.

the SJWs aren't nazi at all.
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>>71073980
>The chief of Kotaku himself officially confirmed they had sexual relations and that Grayson plugged her paypal in an article at the same time. You don't do that in a professional setting.

And that is relevant to how reviews are bought and sold in the industry in exactly what ways? I mean, unless you can show that AAA-companies are actually blowing millions on coke and whores for viedeo game reviewer, the sex angle isn't even newsworthy enough to be reported below the crossword puzzle.
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>>71074322
>Socialism tackles rights in general.
Shut the fuck up already, you retard.

>"sexism isn't the problem, it's some vague force that makes things bad for everyone. Shut up about sexism!"
I can do it too: "I don't know what the problem actually is, so might aswell say it's sexism, because why not".

>It creates a dysfunctional society
I don't think you know what "dysfunctionnal" means.
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>>71074278
Japan's pulp industry is in their adult anthologies. Buisness Jump. Bear jump for example.

It's pretty rare for scanlators to cover the adult comedies. Something like Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei, or Strongest Man Kurosawa omes to mind.

For Blueberry, perhaps Golgo 13 is a comparable?

>>71074212
Western Shojo was killed by the comics code. The last time we restarted it, we ended up with TROUBLE. Do you want more TROUBLE?
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>>71074322
You portray sexism as only coming from a single source: men. That's where your condescension and pseudointellectual little diatribes fail.

No one is denying sexism exists. The fact is that sexism is used, quite often by feminists, to discredit legitimate concerns in other areas of society. It isn't these MRA boogeymen you whine about who look at sexism as a zero-sum game, it's feminists.

Note that you immediately blame men, as a whole, for the undeniable fact that child custody decisions are biased in favor of women.

You aren't fooling anyone.
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>>71067224
Who's this faggot, I want to harass him a little.
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>>71074441
>non-disclosure from journalists is irrelevant unless it's related to AAA games
Are you stupid?
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>>71074410
>Fucking prove it instead of keeping repeating it like a fucking parrot.

Hell, they have more variety even in the top 10 best sellers. Attack on Titan is very different from most cape comics. Even One Piece (it still sucks).

>>71074420
>Being sexy is one of the best ways to do this.

Holy shit, being sexy is the default state for women in popular media. It actually makes you generic.

>>71074425
>You are not defined by what you are, you are defined by who you are

Those are the same thing.
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>>71073841
An awesome butt is one that you really wish you could spank or see bouncing. It has to be proportional to the body type as well. I've seen lots of great butts misplaced on bodies that don't really fit with said butt.

However, a large butt can't be always an awesome butt, there should be an official measure regarding this controversial topic.

Squirrel Girl's butt is shit, though and the character only exists to please the hambeast market.
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>>71074384

What people mean when they say shit like this is that the costume was changed so that he, Alex Alonso, would be comfortable with his daughter cosplaying Ms./Captain Marvel.
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>>71074369
>As it favours women having custody, it indicates that men have internalised sexism: they think that they're worse caretakers than women.
Pure conjecture.
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>>71074369
>This is the kind of extreme compartmentalization that I'm talking about: men are victims of injustice*, so therefore feminism is wrong and sexism is not a real problem.

That is not what I said.

At all.

Feminists DO use sexism as an excuse to ignore legitimate concerns elsewhere, approaching gender relations as a zero sum game.

>It's an example of how sexism hurts men.

Right. The problem is you portray and characterize sexism as male-oriented, the classic feminist illusion.

You don't mention that the women in these cases also have internalized sexism.
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>>71074410

Can you give a couple of female comic magazines focusing on romances

>>71074441
>And that is relevant

Because you said it didn't happen in the first place, that it was just pretend. Saying something else is worse doesn't really mean anything.

Are you really fine with reporters having sex with who they're writing on and then getting people to donate to them, without even telling their bosses, and that saying it's wrong to do is misogyny and should be covered up when it is found out?
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>>71074384

speaking of the "slutty version of the original" genre
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>>71074456
>You portray sexism as only coming from a single source: men.

I do not. Both men and women can contribute to sexism. It merely builds a power structure that favours men, leading to a dysfunctional society.

>Note that you immediately blame men, as a whole, for the undeniable fact that child custody decisions are biased in favor of women.

I did not say this. I said that men have internalised sexist ideas in a way that hurts them.
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>>71074428
>Logic is a form of narrative
Hmmm no it isn't. It uses language as operators (which makes it imperfect) and it is used when narrating, but isn't narrative per se.

>Of course I follow narratives and ideologies. I'm human.
Then attribute that thing to being human, not to being a conservative, lest you come off as a total hypocrite.
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>>71072596
>We'll never get more Gail Simone Bane and Scandal Savage
>No more Secret Six
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>>71074179
Her work is basically for the TVTropes/Hero's Journey stuff and consequently trite as fuck. People who're the scum of earth and people who don't know how freeze peach works made it a dumb event.
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>>71048434
Based
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>>71074499
Doesn't look so slutty when its zipped up. Maybe zippers are the real enemy for feminists
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>>71074484
>Feminists DO use sexism as an excuse to ignore legitimate concerns elsewhere, approaching gender relations as a zero sum game.

Untrue. Feminists talk about gender issue because that is feminist discourse. The only what to talk about gender relations is to talk about gender relations. Nothing stops feminists from also being socialists.
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>>71074464
>Attack on Titan is very different from most cape comics. Even One Piece (it still sucks).
But they aren't really different from other fighting shonen mangas. Explain how comics (or even capes) are less diverse.
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>>71074518
>No more Secret Six
Anon, do you even albeit, horribly delayed, comics? W-We'll probably see Scandal eventually too.
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>Freedonia shits up yet another thread
Why do anons keep responding
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>>71074509
> It merely builds a power structure that favours men

So, again, you characterize sexism as male-oriented. You don't view "sexism" as a concept of gender related intolerance but rather personify it as an extension of the male gender, because you're a feminist and logic isn't your strong suit.

>I said that men have internalised sexist ideas in a way that hurts them.

All men?
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>>71074509
>builds a power structure that favours men

Except it doesn't, because the power structure favors women.
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>>71074533
well, zippers and all you can eat buffets are a deadly combination fro some people.
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>>71074464
>It actually makes you generic.

In practice, it doesn't. As long as the sexyness isn't overbearingly slutty and the design is good, people will find it appealing, even when it does cross that border of good taste and do it just for titillation, you will still have a demographic who will find it pleasing, consisting of both men and female.
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>>71074484
>Right. The problem is you portray and characterize sexism as male-oriented, the classic feminist illusion.

It's "male-oriented" in a sense that it creates a power structure that favours men.

>You don't mention that the women in these cases also have internalized sexism

That goes without saying.

>>71074511
>Then attribute that thing to being human, not to being a conservative, lest you come off as a total hypocrite.

I never argued that, you ding-dong. I said that conservatives naively assume that they're not "ideological" or "narrative driven", since those are ways to doubt the truth-value of their ideas.

Anyway, I gotta bail.
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>>71073627
Oh god I'm not Anthony Birch.
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>>71074464
>Holy shit, being sexy is the default state for women in popular media.

There's PLENTY of varied way to be sexy, bro. That's important is to be over-the-top.
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>>71074554
I'm waiting for them to finish Daredevil Target!

>It's been 12 years.
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>>71074533
>Maybe zippers are the real enemy for feminists

It's half of what they were raging at with this
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>>71074537
I'm not talking about socialism. Why are you talking about socialism? Why are you here?

>Untrue.

No, true. Like what you're doing now, attributing sexism to men as a way of delegitimizing social concerns affecting men. No, it is not men's fault that the custody system is biased against them. If you have substantive evidence that it is, I invite you to discuss it rather than go off on tangents about socialism.

You cannot attribute every negative aspect of society to a single source, which is precisely what you are attempting to do.
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>>71074469
>the character only exists to please the hambeast market
You better be thinking specifically of the currently marketed and designed incarnation, because the character itself has a long and stories history of being a kind of annoying jester character that always wins long before most SJW were a tinkle in their parents' eyes.
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Stop talking to the feminist tripfag holy FUCK
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>>71074477

I see you don't quite understand how patriarchy theory works.

Sexism is everywhere, and the patriarchy exploits this. Anytime there is a dynamic of strong vs weak, you can bet there's a coded sexist message happening. Men getting mistreated and not getting help, is the fault of men's culture making them not want to show weakness, because weakness is associated with femininity. So things like male suicide, deaths, child custody etc is the result of misogyny caused by men, with women and femininity being the actual victims. That's why feminism can help men too - by fixing women's problems, you'll get rid of all of men's problem as a byproduct, after the fact. That's why feminism says there's no such thing as sexism towards men, because all of men's problems comes from sexism towards females.

For instance, if a man loses custody of children, it's because male culture deems childcare as a weak and feminine thing to do. Thus, misogyny. Him being male and thus a contributor to the culture, even unconsciously, makes him a perpetuator of sexism.

Or another example, if a man is getting raped by another man, they're symbolically playing out a male-female rape with a patriarchally defined submissive role, therefore the male victim is actually just being sexist towards women on the whole by representing women in such a demeaning manner. Male society creates that kind of violently sexist culture with the weaker role associated with females, so as a male himself, it's really his fault for getting raped like that.

That's what feminism says, anyways.
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>>71074600
She has a long and storied history of being a joke. And her "wins" against guys like Thanos were also a joke.
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>>71074572
>It's "male-oriented" in a sense that it creates a power structure that favours men.

No, it doesn't. Sexism is not a primarily male institution, it isn't a "gendered" concept.

>That goes without saying

No it doesn't, because you continue to characterize sexism as a concept as intrinsically related to one gender and not the other.
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>>71074487
>Can you give a couple of female comic magazines focusing on romances
Those kinda got kill a while back. I guess Spider-Man :D
More seriously I can't because I don't read them but a google search says Scott Pilgrim (kek), RASL, Habibi, Tamara Drewe, Blankets, and a bunch of French stuff.

I'm sure they'll end up adapting The Fault In Our Stars at one point too.
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>>71074556
>So, again, you characterize sexism as male-oriented. You don't view "sexism" as a concept of gender related intolerance but rather personify it as an extension of the male gender, because you're a feminist and logic isn't your strong suit.

No. Sexism is "male-oriented" in that society at large will favour men and "masculine" values. One side-effect is that it creates niches for women: for example, women are assumed to be better caretakers, so custody cases favour men. It's an example of how this power-structure is not a good thing.

Of course we've seen change.

>You don't view "sexism" as a concept of gender related intolerance but rather personify it as an extension of the male gender

I do not. Sexism as it manifests in society/ies favours men over women. Women can be sexist towards men, but as a whole our institutions tend to favour men.

Even when they seem to favour women there's a paternalistic overtone to it. Like how criminal courts held women less responsible for their actions, as women are not thought to possess equal agency to men.

>>71074560
>Except it doesn't, because the power structure favors women.

Generally in the form of niches. We've seen change, but society is largely male-dominated.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25844719/

>Controlling for age and education, it was found that sexist attitudes-measured with a brief scale assessing beliefs about gender roles in society-were not related to the amount of daily video game use or preference for specific genres for both female and male players.
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>>71074409
>The problem is that men's rights in general fall under socialism.

No, feminists just say this because they want to ignore all the ways feminism and our increasingly feminized society harms men

IE: the uproar over manspreading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manspreading) whereby feminists raise an actual moral furor over the oppression of men sitting comfortably in public

Yes, men: this is a real thing feminists rage about. It has its own wikipedia article!
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>>71074644
NNNNNNNOOOO!

NUUUUHRRRRROOOOOO!!
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>>71074555
>shit on top of shit
Because it doesn't matter.
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>>71074635
>>71074627

See also >>71074612 for theory of patriarchy

>by fixing women's problems, you'll get rid of all of men's problem as a byproduct,

And for the rest we have socialism
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>>71074612
>So things like male suicide, deaths, child custody etc is the result of misogyny caused by men, with women and femininity being the actual victims

People in general are victims, women and feminity suffer in different ways
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>>71069600
I really want to see Sara Pichelli walk up to him and punch him in the fucking face.
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>>71074592
>Why are you talking about socialism?
Because he thinks anybody who wants more rights for them or someone else is a socialist.
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>>71074653
>Manspreading

The pinnacle of first world problems.
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>an OK thread for almost 17 hours and over 2000 posts
>Freedonia shows up
>takes over thread
It happened with Batgirl #41

Dude was like clockwork
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>>71074635
>Women can be sexist towards men,

Except they can't: >>71072199

400K in donations and unanimous support of her every hanging word from every media outlet seems to prove her opinions are far more popular and agreed upon than yours.

>>71074657

I'm glad you agree with that post. I guess we can say you think that it's their own fault that male rape victims get raped.
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>>71074653
>Yes, men: this is a real thing feminists rage about.

I don't.

Also, that's some casual sexist thinking: there are no male feminists. You ironically end up agreeing with Tumblrites. Just goes to show how you've internalised Tumblr.
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>>71074687
Just call him a faggot and filter.

Feminists always argue in bad faith and that's why they're reviled.
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>>71074554
I know Anon, but will it be the same in the NU52? ;_;
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>>71074635
>society is largely male-dominated.

No, it's dominated by the tiny minority of people who dominate society, who overwhelmingly use their dominance of society to enact laws and policies that favor women.
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>>71074687
The problem is these idiots that keep responding
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>>71074612
I'm aware of that theory, I'm just pointing out it's mostly based on conjectures.
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>>71074695
I disagree with Sarkeesian.

And even when sexism isn't towards men, it ends up hurting men.

>>71074687
I'll have to leave anyway for now, have fun
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>>71074616
Yes. A joke. One that got kind of stale but there we are.

But not one created for the hambeast market. Just regular old nerd jokes.
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>>71074696

Weren't you leaving?

>>71074572
>Anyway, I gotta bail.

Gosh, flouncefail
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>>71074718
>believing tripfags
>believing one of the all-time worst
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>>71074711
At this point though classic Squirrel Girl and unbeatable Squirrel Girl are two separate characters.
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>>71074687
I tend to not reply to any namefags, unless they're doing a storytime. They usually have contrary opinions just to stir shit up.
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>>71074696
>I don't.
>>71074710
>I disagree with Sarkeesian.

But you said there's no feminists who act like that period. Feminists are always good and honest people who want rights and good things. Yet Anita's one of the most popular feminists today.

Why should anyone trust anything these people say
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>>71073891
so that's how he get them
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>>71074730

You say that like I didn't expect him to flouncefail

Anyone who announces they're leaving is never, ever going to actually leave
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>>71074696
Nobody thinks there are no male feminists. Stop building all those strawmen.
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>>71074710
>I'll have to leave anyway for now
Promises, always promises.
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>>71074736

I want the original version to kick the shit out of her the way I want original Lobo to kick the shit out of Newbo.

In fact I want it to happen in the same comic, as a team-up.
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>>71074635
>No.

Yet in the same post you say you do not view sexism as a concept of gender intolerance, but rather male-oriented.

You don't know what you're arguing about, you just blithely parrot pseudo-intellectual points you attribute to feminism.

You blindly attribute all social ill to men, because you fail to accept the misandrist underpinnings of feminist thought, and you embrace these sexist diatribes as tautologies, above criticism and examination.

You are not an intellectual and you are less a critic of sexism.
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>>71074765
>>71074757
>>71074749
>>71074741
>>71074718
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>>71074750

Shh you're being like, such a conservative anti-feminist right now! Like shut UP!
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>>71074695
>I'm glad you agree with that post. I guess we can say you think that it's their own fault that male rape victims get raped.

I know you're dumb, but >>71074657
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>>71074600
>>71074616

To me the difference between Squirrel Girl and Squirrel Cunt is that when Squirrel Girl beat Thanos, she was surprised that she won.

When Squirrel Cunt faces Galactus, she takes for granted that she's going to beat him with Suepower.
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>>71074812

oh, so that's what socialism says, not feminism?
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>>71074776

He's gone now isn't he.

But hey, you're still posting about him. So there's that.
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>>71074776
The right version seems a lot more entertaining.
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>>71074776
Telling people to ignore something is going to make them check it out, you even diverted my attention to it, and this is going divert even more.
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>>71074776
>>71074848
>4chan described in one picture and one sentence
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>>71074828
I meant the post below, I guess I'm the dumb one
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>>71074870

Don't talk about yourself like that anon!
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>>71074848

BTFO
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>>71074765
You're trying to mimic a tripfag with "intellectual" language you retard
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You're all tripfags to me now.
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>>71074901
Truly, a fate worse than death
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>>71074148
>No dude, if abuse exists in general, that means that sexism is not the reason abuse exists, and thus not the thing to stop if you want to stop abuse, not that abuse doesn't matter.


thank god there's still people thinking like this, trying to see the whole picture, i'm proud of you co/ godspeed!
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>>71065084
>legally blind
>artist
???
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>>71074978
legally blind doesn't mean you see completely nothing, it just means your vision is shitty and unfixable and you can't do shit like get a license to drive or any sort of job that requires seeing more than 6 inches away from your face
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>>71073057
As in I put my dick in manass and it felt better than pussy or womanass.
Then I got a dick in my ass and it was even better.
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>>71074409
>The problem is that men's rights in general fall under socialism
you strike as a good guy freedonia, but you don't have a clue about what real socialism really is
take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5zrdTb-yI

he mention some of the reason why feminism and socialism are two completly different things, feminism is just another for the middle class to not confront the real problems, hell look just how much press a really mediocre feminist intelectual as annita sarkesian gets! did you read her paper, that shit has a really low standar, a sadly common trend in feminist papers
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>>71073448
>effort is evil patriarchy
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>>71075077
>Freedonia
>a good guy
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>>71074978
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>>71074978
Beethoven was deaf
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>>71074278
>Where's Japan's equivalent to Cerebus or Blueberry?

Goseki Kojima's Samurai comics come to mind, though I can't tell what you're trying to compare here.

>But if you want an actual response: in France (because France shamelessly copies manga styles and tropes, not that there's anything wrong with that).

Those only got good after they stopped straight up copying.
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>>71074487
>Because you said it didn't happen in the first place, that it was just pretend. Saying something else is worse doesn't really mean anything.

I remember that the article about her game turned out to be some list of a bunch of similar games. Probably all with links to the crator's pages.
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>>71073784
Ayy lmao, people wouldn't marry if it didn't have economic benefits.
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>>71075092
i think he has some kind of compromise with the truth, s/he just need to study a little more his focault, marx and marcuse because now his concept of social struggle is really tainted by the gender theory/communication sciences
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>>71073891
if the word pedophile had a face
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>>71058916
> thinking DC and Marvel follow the SJW flow because they actually believe in it, not because its cheap publicity.
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>>71075156
>because France shamelessly copies manga styles and tropes
it was the opposite in the 60's, 70's and even 80's
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>>71074047
>Mugi making sure jews go first
>Mugi hates jews
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>>71074592
>No, it is not men's fault that the custody system is biased against them.

I remember that - in the US - the bias was introduced long before feminism became a thing. By men, who then were the only gender allowed to sit as judges and serve in juries.

Even the whole dumb shit about women being more caring and how they'd save all the menz with their caring and motherly nature was pretty much the only angle of attack open to US feminists. So they rode it hard.
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>>71075208
That is part of it. They get mentions on news shows and whatever, and that's what they crave. Free publicity! It doesn't matter nobody actually WANTS to buy the comics, just that their brand name gets positive news name drops.
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>>71051206
Easy - gays, women and niggers are not nice human beings.
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>>71075209

Not really. It's a very 90s thing in France and I don't think anyone save Moebius ever managed to become a household name among comic fans in Japan. And the 80s in France were when fantasy comics took off while in Japan lighthearted Romcoms were all the rage... I think. Very little room for cross-pollination there.
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>>71075251
>It doesn't matter nobody actually WANTS to buy the comics

They at least made sure that the comic shops have to buy them. The rest they don't care about.
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>>71048848
I really don't think so. Opinion.
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>>71074130
I'm glad I came back to this thread.
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>>71075312
If the Big Two had to buyback unsold issues across the board you'd see a whole lot of creative and editorial changes in the span of a month.

The solution has always been in front of our faces.
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>>71071856
Pics or it didnt happen.
N-no homo.
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>>71070813
They're still mega-buttmad about the Hugo stuff AS WE SPEAK
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>>71075525
I don't get it. What happened with the Hugo awards?
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>>71069534
>>71069556
Actually, it's people like this guy that would make me ashamed to tell people I work in comics.

>that tone has its place and its audience, and it doesnt make you wrong for liking it.
>Now listen as I tell you why it has no place in comics and you are wrong for liking it.
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>>71072220
totally not painted warriors. noooo
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>>71075536
I know next to nothing but so far it looks like
1. The Hugo Awards is an awards for SCFI-FI and fantasy literature
2. Social Justice progressives stormed it years ago, and turned it into a save space where they pat themselves on the back for writing about pansexuals
3. Conservative bigots (read: scifi authors and fans that want works to be judged on the scifi content rather than the quota of gays and minorities) voted en masse for titles that didn't fit this agenda and won.
4. This is harassment, gamergate, a scam, etc. They only wrote and voted for those books to oppress the disenfranchised.
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>Progressives take over an awards organization for sci-fi novels
>Everyone else gets sick of their shit and overthrows them using the same exact methods the Progressives used
>Progressives cry foul and shit their collective diapers
>Pic related happens
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>>71075536
Hugo nominations are made by Worldcon fans. Last year a bunch of SJW's in that group organized among themselves to block vote for books that were not necessarily about science fiction or fantasy as they were about LGBT issues. This year, another group calling themselves Sad Puppies did the same thing in the opposite direction, with the result that this year's nominees are overwhelmingly white males. Naturally, SJW's are upset. Their dubious ethics are not meant to be used against them.
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>>71074278
>Where's Japan's equivalent to Cerebus or Blueberry?

Um, Tezuka's body of work alone has plenty of shit that would cover both.
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>>71074278
>Where's Japan's equivalent to Cerebus or Blueberry?

Okay, you don't read manga. Why should we listen to you then?
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>>71075199
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>>71075657
10/10, thread over, everyone go home now
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>>71074450
>Zetsubou-sensei
>adult comedy
It's a shounen manga.
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>>71075627
>Their dubious ethics are not meant to be used against them.
kek
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>>71075627
It's wild that people are putting last year's winners on the same level as Heinlein and Asimov, just because they all had some level of social commentary in their work. I'm pretty sure that if Heinlein had fixated on polygamy in ALL of his books, or Asimov had just riffed on how much religion sucked for the entirety of the Foundation series, they wouldn't have been so widely received. I've read some of the books that got a Hugo nod for this year's award, and they're kinda hamfisted. It's like execution doesn't even matter anymore.
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>>71074278
"adult" as a mark of quality is always a dubious concept at best. Are you telling me a salarymen that pays his taxes on time has a drinking problem, is ten seconds away from jumping in front of the train because of his stress ulcer and 60 hour a week job is less of an adult because his favorite manga is One Piece?
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>>71071856
Time to become a fuccboi.
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>>71075547
What are these?
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>>71075727
Real men!
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>>71075536
>Hugo
http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/08/the-hugo-awards-culture-wars/
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>>71075694
It's pretty terrible either way, really. You can have great sci-fi stories with women and minorities, but if you hail stories whose plot is basically "I am gay! So very gay! And some sci-fi stuff is happening around me I guess" as progressive and important, then you're condemning minority stories to be shit because everyone will want a ride on that ticket. At the same time the Sad Puppies thing seems like the same problem, putting politics ahead of the quality of work. Yeah, Orson Scott Card is an asshole, but that's not going to change the fact that Ender's Game is a classic.
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>>71075739
Well, yeah, I mean what culture are they from?
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>>71075752
It's the same way a lot of film fans like to pretend Leni Riefenstahl never existed or contributed anything to cinema.
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>>71074130
Fukken saved.
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CORRECTION: After misinterpreting reports in other news publications, EW published an unfair and inaccurate depiction of the Sad Puppies voting slate, which does, in fact, include many women and writers of color. As Sad Puppies’ Brad Torgerson explained to EW, the slate includes both women and non-caucasian writers, including Rajnar Vajra, Larry Correia, Annie Bellet, Kary English, Toni Weisskopf, Ann Sowards, Megan Gray, Sheila Gilbert, Jennifer Brozek, Cedar Sanderson, and Amanda Green.

jesus, fuck mainstream culture media.
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>>71075752
That's exactly how I feel. These political proxy wars are tiresome, and all they ever seem to cause is drama.
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>>71075694
>It's like execution doesn't even matter anymore.

You would think, and this is going to sound pretentious, that awards, at least the ones with some hint of old school prestige behind them, ought to have that snobbish academic criteria as a main guide line for the nominations and winners instead of just congratulatory pat on the back for whatever happens to be the most popular title out at the moment, wouldn't you?
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>>71075801
>Here are people you should harass and accuse of internalized misogyny, homophobia, and racism!

I am sad because that is EXACTLY how this is going to go down.
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>>71075299
the way they narrate and their technique is completly european
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>>71075755
I can't tell if that guy is supposed to be a SJW or an anti-SJW
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIroVvPZU4
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>>71075898
read the filename
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>>71075651
I don't read much manga but it's pretty obvious the guy I was answering to who was posturing that comics = capes doesn't read comics.
Of course there are manga that explore those genres, as there are western comics that exist for about every genre, which was my point.
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>>71075299
Miyazaki cites Le Roi et l'Oiseau as a big influence, and there have been many coproductions. Certainly no household names but an influence nonetheless.
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>>71048748
>The guy who cyber-stalks people who say mean things about his work
>Saying he's anti-harassment
Fuck him.
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BASED
AS
FUCK
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>>71061313
It was appropriated by /pol/. AKA the worst board on 4chan.
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ok, what's going on?
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>>71075759
I think the implication is that they are minoan.
Though it could be sea-people too.
Who might have been minoans...sea-people are kind of vague...
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>>71076022
Frank Cho triggered all the SJWs
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>>71074186
>Which isn't a viable argument, as the manga market is also dominated by one washed-up generic genre: fightng shonens.

But that isn't really true. Fighting Shounens don't dominate the manga industry like superhero comics dominate the comic book industry.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-30/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2014/.81607

This is a list of the top 30 best selling manga in 2014. Only 7 out of those 30 are fighting shounens. The rest are about many different things. There about sports, cooking, romance, farming, etc. The third best selling manga in Japan last year is a sports manga about volleyball.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2014.html

Now look at the best selling comics of 2014. It is dominated by nothing but superhero comics published by DC or Marvel. The only non-superhero comic in the top 100 is the Walking Dead.
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>>71059682
Nigga, /co/ had a shitload of GooberGay threads when it was happening. A bunch of people were also saying "this SJW shit's in comics already we gotta turn the tide".

Stop forcing your fucking narrative. It's not true.
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>>71076022
Remember to controversy about the Manara cover a couple of months ago?
Cho sketched spider-gwen in exactly the same position on a blank cover.
A couple of people got mad about and Cho reacted to them by drawing OP's cover
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>>71076086
>GooberGay

Oh look, another shitposting tripfag. How original.
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>>71071032
>they hate trans people
And there's even feminist trans people that hate "other kinds" of trans people (like transvestites)
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>>71076088
>Remember to controversy about the Manara cover a couple of months ago?
ummmm... no
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>>71075827
Most people assume that, but the Hugo Awards are specifically curated in the chillest manner possible to make sure that any SF or fantasy book can enter the running, so long as they're reasonably recent. That's how, for example, The Wheel of Time series was nominated as a singular work in 2014, because it started in the '90s and ended in 2013.
Thing is, although any SF or fantasy book in the world can be nominated, it has to have been published in English within the last year, and most of the voters, judges and backers are in the US. And with the shit-flinging that's been going on for the last 3 years or so in nerd hobbies, well, something like this year's event was bound to happen.

Only thing that really chafes me is that Worldcon could respond to all this by rewriting eligibility rules with input from "the good ones", as a show of goodwill. That's pretty much guaranteed to make it more jingoistic. I know we're gonna get a speech about "standing firm" with such and such, I'm over that, my mind just glazes over that stuff at this point.
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>>71059679
why the fuck would anyone read spider-gwen
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>>71076145
Basically Marvel hired Milo Manara, a very popular italian erotica artist to draw a series of variant covers for their comics.
I think you know enough about SJWs to know how well that went down:
>WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THE WOMEN!
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So did Cho get fired yet?
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>>71076168
Shit taste?
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>>71076176
i knew that that cover was awfully unanatomical, but didn't know i caused any shitstorm.
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>>71076209
Haven't you heard?

Pointing out that women have butts is sexist.
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>>71076168
I thought /co/ was hyped as fuck about Spider-Gwen. What happened?
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>>71049285
I like the cut of this man's jib.
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Okay, in all seriousness, I thought Cho was kind of a doofus until now. I completely agree with him on this issue. I don't see the problem with making some funny, sexy cheesecake that takes the piss out of dumb controversies every now and again. Oh, wait, I forgot, this is The Mary Sue we're dealing with. No controversy's dumb, unimportant, or worth ignoring.

Most of all, it's really good to see him taking a stand and dealing with these assholes the way they should be dealt with. I normally shy away from quoting e-celebs, but Yahtzee really said it best. "When someone gets upset at you for saying 'tard' or wearing a shirt with nudie ladies on it, the best thing to do is mock them."

>>71076115
GopherGrunt.

GummyGrape.

GimperGumper.

Are you triggered yet, anon?

also lol acting like I'm new here. Check the archives. I hope it gives you even more cancer than you already have.
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>>71075938

didn't help at all
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>>71066839
she should listen to some good old romanian rap

>I wanna change your DNA with my penis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1r_5YBzLtM

>Kick the kid and fuck the nanny rape the granny shoot the shit and ask for a Grammy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id4fq_IQSAY
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>>71049344
I have no idea who this is, but she sounds like a right cunt.
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>>71076243
"ComicGate" will happen. And when it does, I will drink your archived tears every day.

Until them, I'll store your trip in my filter list
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>>71076243
>M-MUH POST HISTORY

You think I give a shit, you slobbering maggot?

You made a shitty post, I called you out on it.

No one cares about your fucking 4chan e-celeb status. Eat shit, you worthless tripfag.
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>>71076256
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/851/127/8f5.jpg
granted, the filename is spelled wrong.
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>>71049468
>because he designed Spider-Gwen, he has the moral authority to decided how she is portrayed.
Hope nobody tells him about the rest of the internet.
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>>71069795

GO HOME SPIDER GIRL
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>>71048434
>this shit got fucking stickied

This is not very /co/mblr

I like it
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>>71076277
People have been trying to get "ComicGate" off the ground during the past few controversies. It hasn't worked. It won't work. The comic community is too tiny for something as big as GamerGate to happen.

Also, I love how you automatically took me jokingly fucking around with GG's name as a slight against them. I'm not even anti-GG. I agree with you on many counts. The problem is that you guys are so fucking self-serious. It's funny as hell.

>>71076290
What are you yammering on about? You didn't call me out on my whole post. You called me out on calling GG "GooberGay". You didn't address the actual content of my post, you just chose to get mad at surface level bullshit. That's all you know how to get angry about because you don't actually read or think about things before flying off the handle.

You're an idiot.
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>>71072186

She also has false flagged herself in the past for extra attention.
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>>71072325
>>71072304

It came out this year on ios and Steam

https://youtu.be/aXiorhWBa2M
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>>71049662
So literal daycare, at the daycare for adult children.
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>>71072596

I remember when a gay character in Birds of Prey was "killed off" and Scans_Daily got mad. She went on and said "Please wait for the rest of the story" and they drove her off for being a shitlord.
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>>71076399
It makes sense. It's a big deal. This kind of controversy has been constant over the past few months, so seeing an artist directly involved in a kerfuffle taking a strong stand against it instead of ignoring it like #FireRickRemender or bending over like the cover kerfuffle or the Dagger Type bullshit is noteworthy.

Plus, /co/ loves cheesecake.
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>>71076427
>talks like a faggot
>gets flustered when called out on it

You can backpedal all you like but you still look like a ponce at the end of the day. No one finds the babytalk shit funny or clever.

Now I recommend you drop it if your intention isn't to shitpost.
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>>71073627

I'm going to miss Kojima.
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>>71051267
>digging a deeper hole

every time
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What's Rodriguez's role at Marvel, exactly? He's not the current artist of SpiderGwen, right? Only designed the costume
The fact he whines so much about his contribution not being recognized makes me think he's small fish
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>>71076514
He thinks Gwen is real, he's probably kept as a pet for amusement.
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>>71076474
he's not killing himself

he'll get to work on his own shit now instead of being chained to MGS. It'll let us see if he's a fluke or not.
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>>71076470
I'm not actually flustered. I called you an idiot because you are one, not because I'm mad. I'm laughing because this is kinda silly.

The point of my post was to tell someone to stop pushing a narrative. You're getting buttflustered because I smashed the words "Goober" and "Gay" together as a stupid joke about GamerGate's name. Rethink your life for a little bit.

>Now I recommend you drop it if your intention isn't to shitpost.
Oh, this is hilarious. You're the one making off-topic replies to me and now you're going "s-stop"? I love how you're trying your best to justify your impotent, pointless outrage and paint yourself as the one who's being somehow slighted.

You don't have the high-ground here, dude. You just kind of look like a bullying retard who gets upset for the exact same reasons as SJW faggots do. "STOP SAYING WORDS THAT MAKE ME MAD ON AN IMAGEBOARD WHERE NO IDEAS ARE CENSORED". Fucking hell, do you have no sense of self-awareness?
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>>71076514
That's usually the trademark of the creatively bankrupt.
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>>71076618
You seem upset.
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>>71076514
To intimidate people who make art of nasty men looking at his daughterfu's butt on Twitter, apparently.

He is the current artist of Spider-Gwen, actually. But yeah, regardless of that, he's a small-fry. It makes the fact that he's trying to intimidate Frank fucking Cho with just one comic under his belt all the more hilarious. This is the guy who drew Batman beating the shit out of Superman and calling him "a giant pussy" with no shame. He doesn't give a fuck.
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>>71076220
I think she still has a lot of fans. It's just that people who don't like or are indifferent to her became more vocal after she got an ongoing series.
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>>71076618
>I'm not flustered, I'm not mad, I'm laughing, this is hilarious
>you just kind of look like a bullying retard
>caps everywhere

I have no clue what you and this person have been saying, but you do look quite frustrated.
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>>71075525
These awards look like dildos anyway, why was anyone against them being given to gay shit?
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>>71076712
I see
I don't think his art is THAT bad, but if he keeps up with these attitude i can't tell about his future in the industry
He complained about Stan fukken Lee signing on SpiderGwen issues, for crying out loud
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>>71076641
God, I hope you're not the same guy. If you are, I'm genuinely worried for your sense of self-awareness. Not to mention irony.
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>yfw rodriguez tried to steal from the master thief
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>>71076641
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>>71076736
>Caps everywhere
Only when I was paraphrasing his bullshit. Kinda hard not to when he uses phrases like "slobbering maggot".

Also, the word "bullying" has been driven into the ground by western public school systems, but by its original definition, it fits what he was doing. "You're saying things I don't like, so I'm going to insult you directly until you stop saying things I don't like."

I'm being honest here, I'm not frustrated at all. A little perplexed, maybe. Such a goofy thing to get mad about.

>>71076781
Yeah, he's a drama queen. Honestly, though, considering how many drama queens have thrived in this industry all while insulting the fuck out of their betters, I think he'll be fine.
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>>71075924
Underrated post
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>>71076912
>Such a goofy thing to get mad about.

So why haven't you dropped it yet, m8?
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>>71076930
Underrated post is just confessing to same fagging

>>71076949
becasue he buttblasted and invested now
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>>71076912

I can see how you're saying "stop telling me I'm mad to insinuate my opinion isn't valid". I believe you, really.

But having to repeat yourself this many times about not being mad and having to underline how "you're laughing" in real life just makes it look phony.
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>>71048434

Funny how there was little-to-no Internet outrage after this response.
When SJW's come across someone who'll just mock them for being so easily outraged, they don't know how to react, they always expect people to apologize or be defensive so that they can keep the outrage going.
It's exactly as the Zero Punctuation guy said, making fun of them is really the only appropriate response, I wish more people would take a hint already
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>>71073448
>implying
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Why are the namefags in this thead such cancer?
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>>71077003
Yeah, that's understandable. I was mostly just responding to people calling me mad, but I can see how it would come across as fake.

>>71076949
>insults me unprovoked for a dumb reason
>gets reamed
>ok drop it
>gets reamed again
>lol drop it m8
You know what? You're right. I should drop it. And I will. You've done a great job of proving that you don't even need my help to look dumb.
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>>71075525
It's a new Gamergate because they chose a name that sounds like another name which is an obvious "spiritual successor" of some events that happened in Gamergate?
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>>71076580

That's true, but he lost the Fox Engine he invested his own money in and various IP's. Assuming he's not just going to quit gaming.
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>>71077353
>Why are the namefags are such cancer?

ftfy
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>>71073136
You know how they say Napoleon had a dude that just whispered: "you're not God" into his ear at all times just to make sure he wouldn't start thinking he actually was?

This cunt needs a dude saying: "you're a cunt" into his cunt ear all day.
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>>71077339
That says that female journalists face more harassment. But given the low bar for "journalism" on the internet that may be deserved.
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>>71077287
>It's exactly as the Zero Punctuation guy said, making fun of them is really the only appropriate response, I wish more people would take a hint already
Yes. This.

To bring up more e-celeb crap, I remember the first time people got mad at JonTron because he made some rape joke or something. He blew them off and the controversy was gone. The second time, Jon got visibly salty and it gave them more traction. They respond to anger, fear, and sorrow. They do not respond to jokes because they don't understand jokes. Not funny jokes, at least.

>>71077339
Not surprised. Nearly every person with a significant online presence has gotten death threats. Women just tend to publicize it more so it looks disproportionate.
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>>71077397
Watch him spiral into a deep depression at this realization

Watch him be no longer able to write because he thinks it all sounds cunty

Watch Anita suddenly cancel all of her appearances and disappear from the public eye due to a sudden lack of material
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>>71077517
Haven't you seen the new study? No link has been found between sexist attitudes and video game use.
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>>71077440
>They respond to anger, fear, and sorrow. They do not respond to jokes because they don't understand jokes.

That's exactly it. What they want most of all it to be taken seriously for people to listen to them. They respond to those things you mentioned because those are their perpetual states of mind, they blame all of the bad things that happened to them on their white patriarchy boogeyman; humor has become so alien to them that when it's used as a response they just move on and look for the next thing to be outraged by
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>>71075525
>3 corrections
absolutely embarrassing.
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>>71075129
>Comparing Beethoven to Rodriguez
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>>71077566
Modern social justice is just right-wing authoritarianism disguised under leftism.
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>>71077551
But I feel that to be the case, so the facts are irrelevant.

Remember, conventional epistemology and rationality are constructions of androcentric oppressor/rapists subconsciously projecting emotional violence against women.

Facts are tainted by logic, which is tainted by an association with males, which means logic isn't applicable to me.

Checkmate, men.
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>>71077645
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>>71077645
>Facts are tainted by logic

So if we empirically prove something that is opposite to what someone believes they merely discredit it? Even if there is overwhelming evidence to support it?

Say it isn't so.

Here, have some Budd Root.
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>>71077376
There are rumors originating from 2ch that he might start working for Sony. Wouldn't surprise me, tbh.
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>>71077644
How long before we start calling radical right-wingers "Left-Wing Authoritarians disguised under Right"?
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>>71077644
>authoritarianism
That's actually accurate, McIntosh doesn't even try to hide he's not a liberal, he thinks liberalism prevents "progress", just like the free market

https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/199049145300942848
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>>71077718
Listen & Believe, shitlord
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Thank you based Cho
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>>71077754
>shitlord

cute
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>>71049662
Feminists are literally womanchildren.
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>>71077744
Anita should really keep this guy in check, or her appeal to SJW's will be hurt by her association to him
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>>71077551
Shhhh, don't tell them that. It triggers their Insufferable Personality Disorder.

>>71077645
thanks ghazi

>>71077566
Succinct and completely accurate.

>>71077644
Even more succinct and just as accurate. Their idea of an ideal government is pretty much in line with a fascist dictatorship.
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>>71048434
What the fuck is this?
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>>71078040
Frank Cho being based
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>>71078144
Who?
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>>71049741
>I wish Hollywood would go a whole year without releasing a film staring a white man
>So they know how it feels
Oh cause there are NO films with female leads
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>>71078170
A comic book artist
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From Robbi Rodriguez's Facebook:

>Thanks for my making my feed entertaining. You kids have knocked out one more of my career goals.

>Let me start by saying, for one, that wasn't a physical treat. It would have been an earful similar to this post, just with more cursing. Trust me - a good ton of the pros in the business would want to do the same.

>Two, I don't take back what I said. It's my opinion and feeling on the matter, and you can take it or leave it. I didn't put it out there for discussion. I'm a prick that way. Also, it isn't something I haven't expressed before. You can find a few tweets on fan art, and I'm well aware I can't control what fans do. I know it doesn't hurt the ground swell that the industry has made so far, but it does hurt what ground has been made regarding the influx of new readers when a pro does work in that manner.

>That tone has its place and its audience, and it doesn't make you wrong for liking it. Shit, I like most of Milo Manara's main work. I think they're fantastic works within their subject and context. But out of context it can come off as tasteless since this country is still not mature about sexuality and sexual expression. More importantly, it becomes trashy when we are in the midst of the biggest new reader boom in years. At ECCC I never heard so many "this is my daughter/son's first comic" or "my wife has never picked up a comic till this book" or sister/brother, or other non-reader. It's fucking fantastic that the industry broke that wall. But every time I see those 10 gratuitous variant covers I cringe as I sign while said new readers watches.
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>>71078216
>Shit son, this isn't about censorship because most of the people bringing up that argument don't even know what that word means exactly. If you, as pro, want this medium and industry to be taken seriously, like we have a chance to now, then start fucking acting like it and change with the times. The definition of body image has changed in of all entertainment in the last decade. And it's not a matter of changing the style of your work - it's a matter of thinking about your work outside of your bubble.

>Really, it just took me getting over telling non-readers that that I work in comics, because it was embarrassing to have the only image associated with the medium be "big tits, big guns." We are making some great headway now. You don't know how many time I've seen Saga at the bars I draw in, and it's fucking amazing. It's fucking amazing because these are not old readers, these are fresh young minds just getting into the medium. But once they see works like the Cho sketch cover or the J.Scott covers, it puts the medium back in the basement-troll stereotype zone. Trust, you may not see it, but it's there.

>So guys, (and this is the guys here) we have a chance to make this industry more legitimate than it has been in decades. Don't fuck it up by sticking to your old ways. With the new influx of fantastic female creators, you need to do your part to build the business. This may be our last great chance to do so. Growing the fuck up will help us all out in the long run.

>This is just my opinion and not a discussion I have no time for. I have fucking work to do."
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>>71078193
>Be Horror fan
>At least 2/3 horror films have a female lead

I would suffering if I were as shallow as modern feminists
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>>71049283

>a total middle finger to women

WHAT ABOUT LESBIANS AND BISEXUALS?
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>>71049344
For some reason I imagined a universe where every deviantart OC has a rapid fanbase that creates (and faps to) unlimited amounts of high quality porn for each and every character that the internet shits out. Creators are freaking out in this post-fappoliptic world.
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>>71078307
Not important for his agenda
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>>71078247
>Growing the fuck up will help us all out in the long run.

I think growing the fuck up begins with respecting whatever a creator wants to do with their work.
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I wonder what Rodriguez would think of Spider-Gwen porn, both 2D and 3D.

Anybody got any? IS there any yet? Should we talk to Shadbase about it?
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>>71048434

That's actually pretty funny.
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>>71078247
>Really, it just took me getting over telling non-readers that that I work in comics, because it was embarrassing to have the only image associated with the medium be "big tits, big guns."

Maybe you should pick a more mature line of work for a mature person such as yourself, Robbi
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>>71078247
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” - CS Lewis
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>>71078366
If Shadbase is in I want out.
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>>71078247
>But once they see works like the Cho sketch cover or the J.Scott covers, it puts the medium back in the basement-troll stereotype zone.
I assume that he has actual numbers to back up such a sweeping statement.
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>>71078407
I'm just saying, he's quick to produce output. He's like Rob Liefeld in that regard.

>Shadbase is the Liefeld of porn.
Y'know, that makes so much sense now that I think about it.
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>>71073891
I remember reading that he has a foot fetish, and that he onced used some Nickelodeon show account to get kids to write the show's name on their feet and post it so they would follow and retweet them.
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>>71078247
>Really, it just took me getting over telling non-readers that that I work in comics, because it was embarrassing to have the only image associated with the medium be "big tits, big guns."

Typical; SJW is upset at others because of his own insecurities.
Really it's only after these "WE WANT THE MEDIUM TO GROW UP" arguments that I realize how true C.S. Lewis's quote is
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>>71075191
>turned out to be some list
No the article was about a list of 100 something odd indie games, he mentioned hers specifically for no real reason and specifically linked to her site and the game's steam page IN the article, none of the other games on the list got that treatment.
And if you think that didn't get here more exposure than any of the other games on that list then you're a moron.
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>>71078384
> mfw when I realise that C. S. Lewis has more psychological insight than entire comicbook-media appararus, /co/ included
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>>71048434
B R A V O
R
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>>71056990
ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT
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>last year
>that dismissive tone

2014 wasn't that long ago.

I'm not old!

YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S OLD!!!
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>>71049662

So, College students are kids? Good, I don't feel so bad for going to College.
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>>71078384
It's a real shame that SJW's can disregard this just because "hurr durr mansplaining" or because "he was just some white guy"
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>>71078620
>tepes, hitler, napoleon, stalin, amin, darwin
>darwin
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>>71050565
>I really could give a shit how many
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>>71065607

not to mention Robbi Rodriguez has a degenerative eye condition and will be completely blind in a few years
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>>71078668
>>71078620
Also Napoleon was literally 2 inches shorter than Hitler
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>>71078668
Don't forget bearded clint eastwood in the bottom right.
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>>71049344
>"be lucky your never around me"
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>>71078366
There's quite a bit out there now. Not enough to fill a page on Paheal yet, but close.
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>>71078247
>then start fucking acting like it and change with the times. The definition of body image has changed in of all entertainment in the last decade. And it's not a matter of changing the style of your work - it's a matter of thinking about your work outside of your bubble.
So he's basically saying fuck art and just do what everyone else is doing because that's safer than doing what you want. Yea fuck this cunt.
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>>71078769

Pussy assed bitch backed down once everyone called him on it, then it were "I was only gonna give him a tongue-lashing" or some such faggy shit, then said a bunch of other vaguely-defined people would have wanted to do the same.

People who've never thrown a punch before in their lives are sometimes like that.
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>>71077644
It's left-wing authoritarianism. The extremes of either spectrum always lead to tyranny and tyranny isn't right-wing exclusive.
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>>71053088

>Wil Wheaton

No wonder Sheldon hated that faggot and that's the only time I've ever felt agreement.

He appeared in TNG and now he flaunts his ego everywhere.
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>>71048748
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>>71073324
>Being a right-wing puritan is no longer socially acceptable
>But you still feel puritan
>Being a leftie allows you to be puritan and smug about it
Makes sense.
Really quite fascinating how support for free speech has gone from left to right to left to right again in a few short decades.
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>>71049361

The exact sort of responses you'd get if you comment on a Cracked article, pointing out how it turned from the internet's leading source of dick jokes to

>10 Startling Realities of Growing Up as a Poor, Black Tranny who's also an Alcoholic Waah Waah Waah ....... by John Cheese
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>>71073777
>>71052998
>conspiciously large/awesome butt
White people in charge of ass.
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>>71078960
>using Allred's art on twitter
>wasting Allred on that shitty book
>being a big fat baby while not being PAD
Just when I thought he couldn't get any worse.
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>>71079003
>Really quite fascinating how support for free speech has gone from left to right to left to right

I take it you don't regularly have to deal with "blue collar conservatives" because they have a whole list of shit you can't say to them either.
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>>71079136
>blue collar conservatives
Whuzzat?

Dummycrat conservatives or manual labor conservatives?
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Feels good to be an fan of Japanese media sometimes.....oh wait.
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>>71073011
Why is she attacking that poor bunny with a hairdryer?
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>>71049662
"Women are basically weak children" - Feminists
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co6WMzDOh1o
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>>71077725
>There are rumors originating from 2ch that he might start working for Sony. Wouldn't surprise me, tbh.

Sony has been tossing around loads of money recently and rolling out the red carpet for devs-- see every indie game going on PS4. And Kojima has a relationship with Sony. It's more than likely.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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