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Is there such a thing as good BL? Do well-written manga and anime

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Is there such a thing as good BL? Do well-written manga and anime with gay characters that aren't cliched stereotypes even exist?
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>>3086750

its a little sappy and heavy handed but i highly recommend shimanami tasogare

it has several queer characters and they feel pretty real, though technically it isnt bl since it isnt about boys loving each other persay, more about self acceptance and working your way through adolescence.

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Shimanami-Tasogare
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>>3086756
Stuff like that is exactly what I'm looking for.

Also, unrelated question, is it just me or are like half of the threads on /cm/ right now unaccessable through catalog because they lack an intro pic? Is this something that happens periodically on boards with very old threads that stay around for weeks? I normally only frequent boards with a high turnover rate.
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>>3086767
It's not just /cm/. The same thing is happening on /y/, /hm/, /w/, /e/, /h/, /vr/, /wsg/, and probably some other boards as well. It's weird.
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>>3086750
Personally, I'd say Miyamoto Kano and Yoneda Kou are the go-to mangaka for believable gay relationships in manga.
But forget anime altogether. Apart from Doukyuusei, the movie was as good as the manga.
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>>3086767
>>3086776
4chan's image servers lost some data while we couldn't upload images a few days ago.
I can still visit every thread though. Maybe because I'm using appchan x.
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>>3086750
I watched Love Stage on recommendation from Basement Man https://youtu.be/8ImphNh4wQY

I though it was pretty good.
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>>3086807
It's a good comedy but I would not say the characters/relationship are well-written, and if anything play into the kinds of things OP wants to get away from.
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Harukaze no Étranger is pretty good
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>>3086829
Umibe no Étranger is the original story, and Harukaze no Étranger picks up where it left off.

Yuki no Shita no Qualia is by the same author, and complete - though I haven't read this yet.

also google turns up this:

>If Kii Kanna’s art reminds you of Tsuritama, that’s because she worked as an illustrator for the series under the name “Niwa / 庭”. She has also published Tsuritama doujinshi under the circle name “3peace”.
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>>3086777
That list seems pretty good. Some of the stuff I wouldn't recommend, but that might just be my taste. The Canis series by Zakk might be up OP's alley. I like Saezuru Tori wa Habatakanai/The Songbird Doesn't Fly, though the story-telling admittedly gets a bit clunky towards the middle due to the yakuza plot.

My question is, what are the series contains BL but doesn't necessarily revolve around it. For example, I thought Banana Fish was pretty homo without it being the defining genre of the series. I guess Adekan also fits this to some extent.
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>>3086750
Yes.
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sorry to hijack your thread OP, figured this would be the best place to ask. there's this really good BL manga i wanted to reread but i can't remember the name of it
i remember it being a cute SOL type thing about a couple moving in together in a shared house(?). i think either one of them was from hokkaido, or it was set there. at one point they go on holiday with their gay friends. i remember it being fairly long, does anyone know what i'm talking about?
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>>3086750
DoUkOusEi!!
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>>3086750
Samurai flamenco.
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>>3086756
>http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Shimanami-Tasogare
ah! i haven't kept up with this mangaka since my nabari no ou days, thank you for bringing this to my attention.
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>>3087005

http://mangafox.me/manga/itoshi_no_nekokke_sequel/

It's actually a sequel. I am so in love with Kumota Haruko, She also wrote Shouwa Genroku Rakugp Shinjuu.
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>>3086750
yes but you won't find it here
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>>3086839
Not OP. Just started reading Umibe no Étranger, it is quite cute so far, thank you for your recommendation, anon.
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>>3086750

yuri on ice.
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>>3086750
A lot. You're not genuinely interested in finding them and will never learn Japanese so you're short on options, though.
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>>3090783
They said "good".
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>>3086750

Fanfiction scratches this itch for me. Some writers are even better than the source material.
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>>3086750
No. 6 is great.
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>>3087318
SamFlam is not BL tho (not commenting about the good part because I'm the only person who unironically thinks it was good)
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One of my favorite anime is Kyo Kara Maoh. Its a longer fantasy series with tonnes of bishonen, and the protag is becomes engaged to a cute boy by accident in the second episode. BL isnt a large focus of the series though, its kinda more BL undertones than anything else. If you enjoy fantasy anime then its worth looking into.
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>>3097207
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>>3086750
Enzai is a fun little 2 part OVA if you like watching shotas get gangraped in prison.
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I highly recommend Doukyuusei. It's really sweet and pure.
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>>3086750
I recommend 10 dance though the characters explicitly identify themselves as straight and one of them mentions having gay friends. Also the buildup is incredibly slow up to the point where 4 volumes have been translated but they've only kissed twice while still not being completely sure of their own feelings.

There was also something I read a while back involving a relationship between a yakuza member and a cop, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was called.

Those two things are the only original BL I've liked.
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>>3097864
*3 volumes whoops
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>>3086750
If you are looking for a well written BL manga I recommend Sakura Gari. It is a very dark and tragic story though.
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>>3097864
It's probably Honto Yajuu, picture related.

>>3097868
I loved Sakura Gari. It should be awful, given the premise, but the mangaka manages to pull it off.

>>3092288
This is very true.
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>>3097870
Forgot the picture.
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>>3086750
Canis aka dear mr hatter has some great art and a pretty decent story
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>>3092288
Not the op but what untranslated BL are good?
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>>3097870
>>3097871
That's it, yeah.
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>>3087762
>Rakugo
I'm still so fucking mad [spoiler] that it got the usagi drop treatment[/spoiler]
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>>3086839
If you liked that you might like Omairi desu yo
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I thought Haru wo Daite Ita is well written.
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>>3086750
Never Understand Manga, its great
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/never_understand/
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>>3095624
Not bad as BL, terrible as dystopya. (Anime only, I heard books are good)
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Itoshi no Nekokke
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>>3086750
The best ones I have found are manga/manhua, try 19 days, pornographer, shimanami tasogare are one of the good ones I have read.
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>>3086777
>Last Updated July 2012
Jesus.
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>>3099615
It was the last time we had a serious discussion on the subject, or at least serious enough to prompt someone to actually make the list.
Feel free to update it.
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>>3099616
It was the last time /cm/ was even remotely decent.
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>>3086750
California story
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>>3086767
For the imageless threads, I pinned them to get a missing image "X" picture I could click on at least.
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