Evangelion Thread #67

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>>3030592
We've even made a new thread from 15 or 20 images to reach image limit. Lurk more!

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>>3030579
>23 cm
God, my dick's getting hard like a rock with this size difference.

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Innocent Kajishin is cute.

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>>3030599
Agree, Kaji being nice with Shinji is always a pleasant view.

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>>3030594
We make new threads after image limit is reached, that's how it's always been newfag.
Don't do that again.

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>>3030731
Please, stop that lie. If you aren't a newfag, you must know that we even had new threads with 135 images posted. I've been here enough to remember those threads at least one year ago. I've even posted new Eva threads with 145-148 images and no one complained but you (check on fgts when the page returns). So stop being an arse and enjoy the new fanarts (unless you're the newfag or a filthy falseflagging here).
Anyway, this is my last reply for you. I don't want to stain this thread with childish tantrums.

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In other news, I've ordered some Eva doujinshi from Cassino, and I'll wait for my translator to scan the numbers of "Golden Branch, Golden Bird" until he buys a scanner probably on June. Probably they'll come in three weeks, but I'm still asking help for Jap-Eng translations. My translator is a very busy person and obviously can't cover too many English releases at the same time.

>>3030755
Why would you make a new thread before the limit? That's retarded and you're retarded for doing it.

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>>3030759
>Getting this mad for a miserable 10 or less images difference
>Not being here to get mad for 135 or less threads
If it helps you on moving to a new subject: yes, it's retarded, I'm retarded for doing it, I'm sorry for that, now I expect you to be here when every thread reaches image limit to post a new thread to stop my autism.

I've been an active poster since 3.0 Generals and only twice have I seen a new thread before image limit.

Don't do it faggot. Just because it's been done before doesn't mean it's not stupid.

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>>3030760
Making threads before image limit might instigate mods to delete the old one, meaning it might not be saved in the archive.
It's a dumb idea, you can wait 10 more images for the thread to hit the limit.

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I wish there was a release date for 3.0+1.0 or whatever it's gonna be called. Anybody know of any animation/anime related press events in Japan where a date could likely be announced?

>>3030819
The Godzilla movie previews.

>>3030820
I was hyped for Godzilla until I saw that god awful trailer.
Anno's reputation is going to plummet after this movie's release.

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>>3030844
I liked the trailer. I doesn't have any of the over the top acting typical for most Jap movies and the obvious CGI and monster suit is kind of nostalgic.

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>>3030844
After Godzilla comes out and is raked over the coals by critics, Anno is going to halt production of 3.0+1.0, start from scratch, completely rewrite the script, and release the shittiest, most devastating and nonsensical entry into the Evangelion franchise with no possible reprieve for Shinji. We will see it in 2025. Screencap this.

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>>3030844
After Anno's Cutiey Honey movie I've decided to keep my expectations low for anything he does.

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>>3030844
Directors affiliated with animation should never really do live action movies.

Also was this posted yet?
>that fucking girly-pose for Shinji

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>>3030951
It got better.

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>>3030952
u da man

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>>3030951
I will never understand Eva merch.

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>>3030994
Eva merch and art are truly the highest achievements of lilin's culture.

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And there's so many things with Kawoshin on them..

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>>3031033
>the heart
Nice and subtle.

Pic related is my favorite wine illustration, though.

>>3031034
cat is shinji

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>>3031049
It's most likely the draftcat

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Apparently in a new mobile game Shinji is listed as having no gender/sex

>>3031263
>少年
It calls him a boy in the summary. The sex of the card is listed as ambiguous/unknown probably because it features both Rei and Shinji. Each of them is described by their gender in the background section.

>>3031276
Wonder why the nip who posted it on twitter made such a big deal then.

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>>3031263
He's the incarnation of a seed of life, just like Lilith was.

Of course he'd be androgynous when he's creating life and reshaping earth just like Lilith did.

>>3031331
He has male body. Doesn't count

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>>3030599
Teasing Kajishin is also cute.

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>>3031427

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>>3031428

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>>3030937

>>3031449
Source?

>>3031429
Translation?

>>3031460
1:
>"Hold on, Shinji-kun."
2:
>(blowing into Shinji's ear)
>"Ahh"
3:
>"Hahahahaha, sorry, sorry"
And then something about how he got to see something good, it's a little hard for me to read the handwriting and I'm a novice.

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>>3030952
Asians are beginning to work at that.

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>>3031427
>>3031428
>>3031429
>>3031460
>>3031462
>Kaji: Come here a bit, Shinji-kun... fuuuh (blows at Shinji's ear).
>Shinji: Ah... ("poka poka" is used here to express rage and tantrums; don't mistake them with Rei's "poka poka").
>Kaji: I've showed you something good... ("hoku hoku" is usually used for something soft and fluffy, in this case, Kaji's reaction to Shinji's punches).

As usual, my English is not the best one, but I guess it's the nearest I can get.

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>>3031369
Dunno, androgynous god really seems to fit him and Rebuild's themes.

>>3031456
Can't remember. It's been a while since I've had that one saved in the folder and I follow hundreds of artists in Twitter. Sorry, anon.

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>>3031526
No worries, anon, the same thing has happened to me. Thanks for your efforts.

>>3031555
Eve is cute with that collar on

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Shinji is cute!

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He always is.

>>3031369
It does. See Devilman.

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>>3031610
Though for all you know, his and Kaworu's "satan" forms might look a lot more eldrich and less cute than Ryo's.

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>>3031697
Damn, my dick.

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>>3031617
Not sure about Shinji's, but Kaworu's form is pretty cute.

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So, do you guys actually feel sexual attraction to Shinji, or is it more just a platonic cuteness thing/desire to protect him?

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>>3031749
No wonder why Eve fell for Adam (even if comes from his own rib).

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>>3031811
He's more like a daughteru (sonfu?) to me, but I can't deny how lewd he is in doujins and fanart.

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>>3031811
>>3031836
This is the way I feel. I want to protect and nurture him, but he has great lewd potential.

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It's already Kiss Day in Japan!

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I thought Cassius was Kaworu's spear, but he has Longinus here instead.

>>3031908
Cassius is truly Eve's spear. Kaworu was just borrowing it.

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>>3031811
The second one. He soon became my favourite character, and to this day he's still between my favourites ever. I wish he had it better, I want him to smile more often and be happy.
I'm actually not attracted to males, though.

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>>3031749
>>3031818
>Kaworu's form is pretty cute
You mean eldritch. Ryo just gets wings and boyboobs for his angel form.

Kaworu turns into a giant glowing Eva thing and Shinji was supposd to have turned into some weird half formed giant. Their angel forms are scary as fuck.

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>>3031919
Says you.
I think his giant of light form is adorable.

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>>3031951
Cute.

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>>3031919
Speak for yourself, Adam is cute in both embryo and giant forms.

>>3031951
>>3031952
He's really cute.

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>>3032075
What will never be.

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It's time, anons. Heaven, hell, or purgatory?

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>>3032157
All worus are great, but Animeworu is the greatest.

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>>3032157
>>3032164
This. The original will always be the best.

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>>3032157

Hard to choose, but there's something about Qworu that I find fascinating.

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>>3032157
Anime>manga>those brief scenes with Kaworu on the moon in the first two Rebuilds>>>>>>>>>Q

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>>3032157
I love Q and manga equally but in different ways. Obviously I don't hate anime, but I rank him last.

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>>3032157
Animeworu>>>>Mangaworu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Qworu

He's just that bad.

>>3032235
What makes him so bad?

>>3032243
What makes him good?

Am I the only one who had the impression Qworu and the Kaworus from the first two movies acted like two different people? Even with such a short screentime, I don't know. Maybe I'm looking too much into it because Qworu's characterization disappointed me a little.

>>3032255
I mean, not that is bad as it's Kaworu and he's one of my favourite characters, but I guess I was expecting him to have the same characterization as in the anime.

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>>3032255
Maybe he is. They are drawn pretty differently.

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>>3032254
I don't know why you countered my question without answering it, I was genuinely curious about your opinion.
I like Qworu for a lot of reasons. His emotional complexity is interesting to me; he presents himself as straightforward, but there's a lot he doesn't or won't talk about, which makes me want to learn more about him. He posits himself as somebody who has everything together, but in reality, he's a huge fuckup, so it's easy for me to feel invested in him and want him to succeed and be okay. He has a pleasant demeanor. He put effort into growing close with Shinji.
Ultimately, his character appeals to me. There's a lot going on with him.

>>3032260
I wish Qworu looked like that. I fucking hated the character designs in general in Q.

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>>3032273
It's that Sadamoto touch. Manga Kaworu is the best looking Kaworu.

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>>3032277
That I can get behind. I love his flippy hair.

>>3032262
I agree with your thoughts about Qworu. There's something a little more human and imperfect about him compared to anime!kaworu but he's more put-together than manga!kaworu, by a long shot.

>>3032255
I always got the same impression.
The difference in haircut and shirt color just add to it.

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>>3032273
Same. I thought everyone in Q looked terrible. Kaworu only looked good in a few scenes.

A shame because he looked gorgeous in 1.0 and 2.0. Why didn't they keep Hidenori (?) as Animator director?

>>3032262
>His emotional complexity is interesting to me
He is the least complex emotionally out of the three.

>he presents himself as straightforward, but there's a lot he doesn't or won't talk about
This can be said for Animeworu and Mangaworu, so I don't see how this is a point for Qworu. Animeworu in particular executed this character trait a lot more effectively and with complexity that is lost in Q.

> He posits himself as somebody who has everything together, but in reality, he's a huge fuckup
Again, this isn't something that sets Qworu apart from the rest of the worus. Animeworu (from Draftworu) was extremely fucked up, more than Qworu. He had a death wish (and depression; cutting scares anyone?) that Qworu doesn't have, so in reality Qworu is less fucked up and less complex.

>He has a pleasant demeanor. He put effort into growing close with Shinji.
Everything Animeworu did also.

There's nothing about Qworu that makes him more interesting/complex than Animeworu, that's for sure. You're just more invested because he's shinier.

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>>3032157
I'd go to the deepest hell of hells only for Animeworu's happiness. But the other ones are so cute too.

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I like them all. I wish we got more screen-time with all of them.

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>>3032331
>A shame because he looked gorgeous in 1.0 and 2.0
That's what hurts me the most.

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>>3032362
>artists drawing Shinji with little boobies For some reason

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>>3032372
So why the fuck did they switch to Honda for 3.0? Nothing was wrong with the art direction in the previous two movies.

The CRCs will probably explain this, but who knows when the hell they'll come out.

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>>3032358
>He is the least complex emotionally out of the three.
I disagree. Pic related is a wealth of emotional complexity in, like, two seconds.

>Animeworu in particular executed this character trait a lot more effectively and with complexity that is lost in Q.
I disagree with this as well. There are several times when Qworu gives pause, without his serene expression -- it strikes me as a moment when he wants to say something but decides against it. Anime Kaworu, on the other hand, speaks much more easily, without hesitation. That's not a bad thing, it's just a difference.

>Animeworu (from Draftworu) was extremely fucked up
>Draftworu
Doesn't count. Draft Kaworu underwent so many changes that they can't be considered anything but different characters.

>Everything Animeworu did also.
Now, first off, Anime Kaworu does have a pleasant demeanor, I would never dispute that. I said from the start that I didn't hate him at all, and when I was talking about what I considered to be Qworu's good points, I wasn't actually pitting him against Anime Kaworu. I was just listing off what I like about him. That said, Anime Kaworu didn't really need to work that hard at all to get close to Shinji. Shinji was drooling at the sight of him the moment they met. I can't help but prefer Qworu's tender efforts at friendship. But that's just my opinion, and I'd appreciate if you didn't try to invalidate it by claiming I only like him because he's "shinier".

Qworu is just Anime Kaworu who's undergone some changes, anyway.

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>>3032413
I forgot I started out with the intention to use a specific image and chose a completely different one at the end. Sorry. This was meant to be last post's pic related.

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>>3032413
>Qworu is just Anime Kaworu who's undergone some changes, anyway.
Not him, but no, he's not. He's an extremely watered down Kaworu just like every other character in that movie.

>>3032413
>There are several times when Qworu gives pause, without his serene expression -- it strikes me as a moment when he wants to say something but decides against it.
You're reading so far into Qworu and Q's bad writing that I don't even know how to respond.

>I didn't hate him at all, and when I was talking about what I considered to be Qworu's good points, I wasn't actually pitting him against Anime Kaworu. I was just listing off what I like about him.
If every good quality about Qworu was executed better in Animeworu, then Qworu fails as a character. You've provided no evidence of any character trait that only Qworu has, or is improved in Qworu. Because there isn't any: Rebuild butchered Kaworu just like they did to every character.

>>3032418
Body language can be clear even when plot is poor. Something that was done badly isn't necessarily rotten all the way through.

I disagree that everything about Qworu was executed better with Anime Kaworu. If you don't see that the Kaworu approach toward Shinji is different in Q, I don't know what to tell you. I like Q's portrayal of the relationship. I like the concept behind Qworu. I like looking at the differences between Qworu and Anime Kaworu.

>>3032417
>Like, how Nagisa Kaworu should be with his accumulated pasts, even if they [were part of] different cycles
Anime Kaworu and Qworu are the same character. Qworu has undergone some changes. That's what I meant.

>>3032419
There are people who swear up and down that Shikinami is better than Soryu. There are people who swear up and down that Qworu is better than Animeworu. Shit taste. That's all I have to say.

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Let's be honest, Honda gave shinji a bubble butt & girly figure and used it for fan service . Automatically makes him gud

>>3032420
I know it's hard to watch people enjoying things, anon.
Also I don't know why you brought up Asuka in a) a conversation about Kaworu and b) a /cm/ thread. Are you butthurt?

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>>3032419
>Anime Kaworu and Qworu are the same character.
They aren't.
Anno can swear up and down Kaworu is timelooping and is the same exact character in every work, but unless he shows why Animeworu's motivations, attitude, and thought process has changed so much they are objectively two different characters to the core.

And even if they are revealed to be the same, that doesn't mean I have to like Qworu. It just means I still love Animeworu, but hate the way he has progressed (or un-progressed) in later works.

I'm not the other anon, you can like Qworu the most for whatever reasons you want, I don't care. But the way he was executed in Rebuild has sullied the impact and significance of the original Kaworu. Likewise with the other characters in Q.

>>3032422
Not him, but bringing up Asuka is completely relevant to his point.
This being /cm/ has nothing to do with it, we discuss the female characters all the time without a problem.
If you don't like that, go somewhere else.

>>3032424
>we discuss the female characters all the time without a problem.
Not recently. For months now, most of the time when Asuka or Rei are brought up, it's falseflaggers from /a/ or even evageeks.

>>3032422
>Also I don't know why you brought up Asuka in a) a conversation about Kaworu and b) a /cm/ thread. Are you butthurt?
The point wasn't to discuss Asuka, dumbass. The point was to draw a comparison between people liking a shittier version of Character A and people liking a shittier version of Character B. Also,
>Acting like namedropping a girl character's name in /cm/ is a monstrous crime

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>>3032423
Has Anno actually confirmed the timeloop theory? I thought it was all fan speculation. (forgive my ignorance about this, I haven't read that much Eva discussion lately, or really ever).

If it was all the same Kaworu, I guess one could argue that his personality has simply changed/evolved. The manga version of him does seem the least mature of the three, but somehow I find the anime version to be the most mature. There's a certain quality about the Rebuild Kaworu that makes me think he's growing weary of the repetition (perhaps his determined face at the end of 2.22?)
>>3032260
Also how upset he looks when he knows he's gotta try again
>>3032225

>>3032432
If you can't make your points without hyperbole, talking to you is useless.

>>3032437
>If you can't make your points without hyperbole, talking to you is useless.
>If you can't make your points without hyperbole
>Hyperbole
>Not knowing what hyperbole is
Not the anon you replied to but this is hilarious. Even assuming you typed what you really mean, this is hilarious coming from a person who likes Qworu, who speaks in hyperbole 99% of the time.

>>3032447
Hyperbole, as I understand it, is something exaggerated and unable to be taken literally.
>>Acting like namedropping a girl character's name in /cm/ is a monstrous crime
Come on.

>>3032450
>Looking up what hyperbole is and C+Ping the first definition that comes up on Google word for word

>>3032452
Yeah, I Googled to double check that I was correct. The post had me second guessing. As I thought, I didn't use it incorrectly.

>>3032454
>Yeah, I Googled to double check that I was correct. The post had me second guessing. As I thought, I didn't use it incorrectly.
Oh god just stop.

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>>3032458

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>>3032433
No, nothing has been outright confirmed. We just have Akira Ishida's words saying Kaworu has been through cycles in the past (which may or may not be connected to Animeverse).

My point still stands that they are different characters unless a direct link is made.
I also think the Kaworu of 1.0/2.0 and Q are radically different from each other, even others have theorized that they are different characters as well.

The characterization in Rebuild is so all over the place and inconsistent I've just given up with it.

>>3032428
Not really. These threads have always been open to discussing anything Eva related, of course this includes the female characters and other aspects of the show.
Obviously, since this is /cm/, the topic most of the time will be on the males but that doesn't mean anything else is banned.

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>>3032494

idk where you're getting "radically different" and "all over the place and inconsistent." it's the same kaworu throughout rebuild. if you mean 2.0 kaworu being all stern and angry when he descends on shinji, that was changed from an earlier draft. they wanted to make a different point. here:

>Tsurumaki: Kaworu’s line stayed the same from the very first storyboard. It was something he said while wearing his usual relaxed smile. Of course, at the last minute, just, I think, before we started postsynchronization, we began talking about whether or not it would be better if Kaworu looked scary during that scene.

>Interviewer: As a result, it looks like he’s come to take his bride by force!
Tsurumaki: Right, right (laughing). [We thought it would be] more interesting if Kaworu looked like [he was thinking]: “You’ve been with a woman while I’ve been away? How dare you…!” It’s not Kaworu’s usual relaxed expression; he’s somehow become irritated, right?

>–Kazuya Tsurumaki

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>>3032331
That’s not only because of the change of artstyle, but because animators messed up too, or that’s the impression I get. Pic related.

>>3032419
I think I kind of understand what they try to say.
I overall enjoyed the first Kaworu scenes in Q (Ishida’s interview makes you see how much detail they put into their meeting and relationship development) but the ending felt like prepared beforehand and just needed to lead everything into there, what made Kaworu seem (as well as some other characters) ooc-ish, thus ruined it for me. He just stayed there without moving for a while saying ‘Shinji, don’t do it’ one or two times. I don’t know how to explain it but it felt odd in contrast with his way to go in NGE and then his change of mind and final decision. Many of the main characters act different actually if you compare them to NGE. That’s why I can’t go with the ‘under some changes’ part. I feel like the scene would have gone differently if he were a 'developed' Animeworu. Plus the
>I can’t believe that me, the first angel, would end up becoming the thirteen
line. Shouldn’t he be expecting it (to try to avoid it somehow) when he always was both the first and last one?
I’m talking from memory though. I only watched Q once, and it was long time ago, so I’m open to discussion. The truth is I never rewatched it because of how Shinji ended up. His face after what happened still hurts me to this day just from seeing screenshots.

>>3032433
I don’t think so, apart from a Khara mobile game I remember seeing mentioned here some months ago where he creates worlds or something, but still can’t be applied to Rebuild timelines. I admit I don’t follow all the threads and I’m a little out of touch though.

>>3032428
Now that’s just being masochist when they get so triggered at the single mention of Kaworu’s name. Why would they even come here? Crossboarders are to be expected, but evageeks…?

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Just out of curiosity, does anyone have a download link for any of the newer NGE artbooks?

>>3032651
>I feel like the scene would have gone differently if he were a 'developed' Animeworu.
Exactly. I don't give a shit what Ishida or Khara says, a older, more developed Animeworu who has been through many cycles would not have acted they way Qworu did in Q. Bad writing is bad writing and Animeworu and Qworu are different characters, point blank.

>>3031811
Actual sexual attraction.
Kaworus more attractive though.

>>3032632
I'm already well aware of the CRC, still doesn't change my point.

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>>3032651
That does look way better. I know Honda can draw a beautiful Kaworu when he puts the effort in.
Still not a fan of the Sonic the Edgehog haircut though.

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>>3032651
He really looks like prince Dios on the lineart. Love it.

It really looks like they were going for Ikuhara vibes.

>>3032651
He's clearly smiling in that frame, why did they change it to a blank stare in the finished scene?

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>>3032722
Probably just a consequence of lazy animation. Smiling at Shinji in that scene makes much more sense that being that deadpan, and you can see the emotions he is feeling just with the eyes. I can understand it for NGE because they had no time, so we have really odd frames like the Rei looking down at Kaworu one. I remember someone commenting once they gave the chapter to TV Tokyo just half an hour before being aired (though I never saw a proper sauce, so take it with a grain of salt). But Rebuild was supposed to not have those issues... and yet, we receive a lot of quality.

Pic related is another scene I think looks worse in the animation.
There are some of them that looks similar to the final product, of course. But ouch, it hurts my eyes when I see how different there are some of the others.

>>3032656
I wish so. I never saw someone scanning them, and I only have scans I've been recopilating from different places through the years. I saw they made offers or something lately for the digital versions, but if I were to buy them I'd buy the physical ones and I think that didn't apply to those versions, from what I could understand at least. If only bringing stuff from Japan to where I live were easier and cheapier...

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>>3032732
Here's the screenshot for comparison.

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>>3032733
And the closer one now that we are at it.

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>>3032732
In the credits for 3.0 there is Animation work from members of Ufotable, TRIGGER, and some other companies as well.
It's really odd that it turned out the way it did considering.

Either Anno & Tsurumaki didn't give a shit or they were short on time. Hopefully the CRC will answer these questions when it comes out.

>>3032733
Smug.

>>3032734
Affectionate.

So which one is it?

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>>3032734
Man those roughs are so good.

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>>3032734
Oh god, he looks so good in those sketches, what the hell happened?

New thread >>3032790