independent restaurants < chain restaurants If independents

For fast food, not for sit-downs

>>9403999
>No sandwich place in the world can compare to subway
this is bait.

>>9404035
alright show me another sandwich place that is so popular they have thousands of locations and are a household name

>>9404040
Subway is popular because it is cheap and tastes ok

>>9404061
uh EXCUSE ME SIR DID I ASK YOU WHY IT WAS POPULAR OR DID I ASK YOU TO SHOW ME ANOTHER SANDWICH PLACE OF EQUAL OR GREATER POPULARITY?

>>9404068
you have to be 18+ years of age to post here you fucking sperg

>>9403999
In the UK at least there are independents who specialise and outperform any kind of chain. And that would be because it wouldn't be economically or logistically viable. We have the most amazing tea room where I am and nothing compares in the quality and service. Things are more expensive too, but it makes up for it in the quality.

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>>9404072
super simple stuff and still you can't spit it out

I'll say it for you, then.

>There is no sandwich place more popular, and I was wrong for implying otherwise. Please forgive me.

>>9404040
>thousands of locations and are a household name
"the closest bakery". everyone knows where that is.

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>>9404082
Imagine being so buttblustered by basic facts you just resort to fantasy land.

>>9403999
Independent restaurants would lose their soul if they were to make themselves a franchise like any fast food place. They are devoid of passion merely fleshy robots turning out the same shitty meal minute after minute

>>9404077
How much are they paying you to shill subway on a mongolian throat singing forum

>>9404086
>resort to fantasy land
Says the idiot posting animu.
That's some weapons grade irony you got there, weeb.

>>9403999
I work at subway. Our district manager sent us a text one day of a picture of spinach with stink bug eggs on it. One of our sister stores found it in their spinach bags from our providers. Ew. Our DM says we are the last check of quality before our food reaches our customers. For minimum wage and shitty managers an little time available we really do not care that much to thoroughly check.

Watch out for spinach in subways. Lol

>>9404146
>he doesn't know that fast food joints are also operated by local community members

homecooked > resturants

>>9404459
bollocks, if you were any good you would be doing it professionally

>>9404086
Imagine having so little you're reduced to shilling for subway on a pinoy yarn spinning board filled with autists

>>9404492
>shilling
Strike 2 /ck/.

>>9403999
Nice trips, based Kurisuposter.

>>9404545
I love Kurisu, she's probably my favorite anime.

The entirety of your argument is fallacious.

Why should I bother responding? Continue living your fantasy.

>>9404568
You have perfect taste my friend.

>>9403999
I'm eating à 3€ sandwich from the best cheese shop in brussels. Decent bread, good butter, spanish hard goat cheese, organic belgian raw ham.
3€ plus meaningful chatter with the owner, get fucked.

>>9404040
Popular =/= good

>>9404622
haha what a meme

and still a question dodge

when will someone tell me of a comparable sandwich shop

>>9403999
The only thing indies lack is consistency. You never have ANY idea what you're walking in to. It could be amazing, it could be just alright, and it could be totally horrific.

I've been to enough of the totally horrific to have stopped even trying to go to independent places. Fuck 'em I'd rather go to a restaurant I know can deliver what I want or cook for myself.

>>9404754
I know I went to a sandwich shop and they must have learned how to cook in Montreal because it was the worst sandwich ever.

that's when I swore off non-chain sandwich shops

>>9403999
>No sandwich place in the world can compare to subway, for example, in speed, quality and price.
except literally every chain, and probably most small shops

>>9404741
You want an answer you'll get it kiddo, there's indeed no other sandwich place like subway, no other place managed to achieve success while serving literally shit in bread.
Good for them now what was your point? That commercial success equals intrinsic quality? Amerisharts don't know about food and they'll eat wherever they're told to by their teevee or production placement in their capeshit flicks.

>>9404807
>subway opens
>so popular it rapidly expands to thousands of worldwide locations
>no other sandwich shop does this

uh mister there's an obvious flaw in your reasoning

>>9404817
of course commercial success equals quality you silly memer. People want to buy good food and they don't buy bad food.

it's actually the purest form of success there is. critic reviews are just some losers opinion and is often not shared by the populace, but you can't argue with results.

>>9404832
False, commercial success equals marketing and brand. Maybe subway was good WAAAAAAY back in the distant past and that's how they got started, but today they rest on their laurels of brand name and have scarified the ever loving shit out of quality.

>>9403999
profitability has nothing to do with quality of food. there's lot of great chefs and recipes. there's much fewer people who are both great chefs and also great businessmen.

>>9404841
>profitability has nothing to do with quality of food

Actually this is false too. The higher quality your raw ingredients and preparation are, the less profit you make. Quality costs money and profit is all about minimizing cost and maximizing revenue.

>>9404489
easiest way to destroy a hobby

>>9404841
listen up you silly pretzel twist

good food = more money

People buy good food and don't buy bad food. This is very simple principle I am surprised you need it elucidated for you.

>>9404427
You mean high school kids trying to get quick money?
Im sure as fuck they care about quality of shit you are eating

>>9404848
>make great food
>have to charge lots of money to break even
>people like your food but not enough to pay the price
>go out of business

>make crap food
>costs pennies
>people don't really like your food but it's really cheap so they buy it anyways
>Welcome to Taco Bell

>>9404832
But subway is an American company and americans can't into food...

>>9404852
sorry mister, you're confused. The chain restaurants make good food despite the price being low.

>>9404848
Better ingridients costs more money so you are either charging a shitload of money or you are getting less profit
Subway can throw in some shit tomatoes into some 0.10$ bread and get more money out of one sandich

>>9404865
such closemindedness

are you all being fools on purpose or did I inadvertantly stumble upon the subway hateclub

>>9404832
no, subway customers want to buy cheap food with borderline quality. foodies are willing to spend the $2 more for higher quality.

subway customers value the ability to spend the $2 savings on something else. the only thing it proves is that $2 in your pocket is preferable than the marginal improvement in a slice of ham.

>>9404844
that's bad business. if you use higher quality ingredients and techniques, then you should charge more.
business =/= cooking

>>9404982
>if you use higher quality ingredients and techniques, then you should charge more.
And now you're back to >>9404852

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kGtgBJKyZM

>>9404848
only true if it were the same price. no one will pay $12 for a 6" subway.

>>9404986
nope still bad business. lots of successful seafood restaurants just charge "market value" for certain entrees. sounds like your buyer is shit at negotiating with your suppliers.

>>9404856
>The chain restaurants make raw calories palatable despite the price being low.
ftfy

>ITT : Lil' aspie plays the " it was merely an act" game while mommy is out for his tostinos

>>9403999
That's not how it works. Often independent restaurants become chains then the quality suffers.

You are half right, no sandwich shop can compete with Subway in speed or price, but that shit comes at the cost of quality. All the independent shops around here make better subs, some of them WAY better. Subway is not really worth it's price when the quality suffers so very much so they can keep prices low and speed high. Independent restaurants can't take advantage of economies of scale so the price will always be higher, but if you care about quality at all it's worth the price.

The same goes for literally any fast food or even sit down restaurants, but the problem now is that it's a lot harder to become a chain now that there are so many chains. But I can go any non-chain and get better food than any chain for slightly more.

TL;DR, quality >>>>>> cheap speed

>>9405534
you fucking dumb fuck why should I even read past your inability to fractionize? If I am right about speed and price but not quality that doesn't mean I am half wrong that means I am 2/3 correct you dumb fucking piece of shit stop being so fucking dumb you dumb piece of shit wtf is your problem?

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>>9404427
Sorry I took so long too reply.
But what this guy said >>9403999
they never created the independent restaurant, they adopted it. And clearly are mistakenly seeking rich's.

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>>9404040
Speed, quality, and price was your argument. There are plenty of better spots than subgay in those categories. Just because they aren't chains, does not mean they are not better in those categories.

>>9404427
>trained kitchen staff that knows what they're doing and actually cooks using local fresh ingredients
vs
>High schoolers and drug addicts assembling mass-produced idiot-proof meals
They both may be local community members but they're not the same. I'm not saying chains are all bad or all local restaurants are all good but chains thrive on brand recognition which relies on a consistency that comes at the price of quality potential.

>>9403999
>independent restaurants < chain restaurants
That really depends on where you live. Where I live it's so easy to find independent places that blow chains away that I never eat in chain restaurants anymore if I can help it.

>>9405666
Get back to /pol/ with your logical fallacies

>>9405534
Also Subway has the advantage of the economy-of-scale.
Their food wouldn't be as cheap and as consistent if they didn't have a good relationship on an industrial scale with their suppliers.