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>But it's expensive to eat healthy! Why do people

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>But it's expensive to eat healthy!
Why do people believe this?
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Cherrypicking the price of a bundle of asparagus vs the price of a mcfuckburger.

Fatties lie to themselves. More news at 11.
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>>9153527
processed food is cheaper. at least in america.
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>>9153527
Fish is expensive.
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>>9153533
American here, it's not. That's what delusional landwhales tell themselves along with "it's too hard to cook"
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>>9153527
Because places like Whole Foods overcharged for everything, which will hopefully be solved by the Amazon accusation. Moreover people are too lazy to go to local farmers markets and default to shitty fast food ot garbage frozen food.

pic unrelated
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>>9153540
Canned salmon, mackerel, and sardines are all very cheap.
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>>9153546
And all extremely unhealthy due to the salt levels
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Beans & Rice: a million dollarinos
Big Mac: literally free
checkmate atheists
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>>9153533
Are you telling me that lentils and porridge aren't cheaper?
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>>9153540
Fish is free you retard
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In terms of opportunity cost, it is. When you've spent a full day working and exhausting yourself, there aren't many cheap, convenient, healthy food options, both for you, and a family. Unless you want to spend an hour prepping and cooking, you're going to save a lot of time and money just grabbing a burger, or popping something in the microwave.
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>>9153591
Where?
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>>9153637
in your local lake or river you tard
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>>9153647
That's not free. You pay a cost in time to fish and you pay real money in equipment to fish.
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>>9153647
>have to buy fishing gear
>have to buy lisence
>have to take time off from work to go fish
>not guaranteed to catch anything
when you factor in all those things you'd save money buying alaskan salmon or sea bass from the store
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>>9153616
>, there aren't many cheap, convenient, healthy food options, both for you, and a family
Shake some dry rub on some chicken breasts, put in oven. Eat raw broccoli. Cook up rice.

Bam, a full meal. Is it fancy? No. But you're poor. Stop bitching.
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>>9153527
Because they don't cook. If you cook and want to eat healthy it's cheap as fuck. But if you want prepared and convenience foods the healthy options are much more expensive.
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>>9153543
This.
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>>9153666

I mean, luckily I have the money and time to not be that concerned about it. But if I had a bunch of kids... I know they wouldn't eat chicken breasts, broccoli, and rice. I can see why someone would buy them cheeseburgers.

But still, all that being said... Isn't broccoli, chicken, and rice comparably priced to a couple of McDoubles & fries?
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>>9153527
>>9153543
If you include time as part of your budget, it is
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>>9153647
Yeah just like all meat is free if you hunt it and all vegetables are free if you farm them or find them in the forest or some shit. But that's not a reasonable thing tp expect people to do, especially if they live in the city or something.
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>>9153527
because it's even cheaper to eat unhealthy ? i can get 2 frozen pizzas for 1€
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>>9153527
It costs me about a dollar a day extra to eat healthy. Not a lot more but definitely more
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american poorfags don't know about rice and beans
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>>9153559
Even if excess salt were unhealthy, those all have low levels compared to what lots of people eat as actual meals. They don't even taste noticeably salty, unless you're getting something like kippers which are salted on purpose.
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>>9153705
Anyone can bulk cook on the weekends, even with a pile of kids. Get those hell spawn used to leftovers and cereal for breakfast and you'll successfully have created and nurtured a child.

Like fuck, it's not complicated.
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>>9153540
Herring and mackerel are so fucking cheap i suspect they're catching themselves. Also you're a retard.
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>>9153527
Because I can't cook and that shit you tell me to whip up just sits in the fridge while I still drive to the nearest fast food place and get my usual.

So I spent more because I bought your shitty recommendations instead of just doing the usual and just buying fast food.

I hate not knowing how to cook.
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>>9153762

Yeah, if you want to eat the exact same shit every single night and try to force feed your kids to eat the same slop.

Sounds good in theory, but your kids aren't going to swallow down the same dreck every night and will become more of a pain in the ass than anything.

I bet you don't have kids.
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>>9153778
>applying food to a very hot box is difficult
neck oneself and any spawn you have managed to produce
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>>9153781
not that poster but i have 4 kids and my partner and i work full time. It's only hard if you're a fat fucking landwhale (which you are) who cannot be arsed.
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>>9153616
Wendys salads
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>>9153702
>I know they wouldn't eat chicken breasts, broccoli, and rice
nigger are you fucking dumb? Kids eat what they're trained to eat by their parents
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If they weren't retarded, they probably wouldn't be poor.
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>>9153827
Haha yeah man just slap the steak into the hot pan and it cooks no need for any other interference!

Shut the fuck up
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>>9153781
You literally just send them to bed hungry if they won't eat. Are all parents these days weak fucks like you?
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>>9153702
I wouldn't eat that cuck food either. Chicken thighs taste better and are cheaper.
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>>9153846
>throw steak in pan
>wait
>flip steak
>wait
>eat
wow so hard
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>>9153854
Except it's not that easy and you know it
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>>9153859
It literally is that easy. I'm not joking, it literally is that easy.
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>>9153846
super retard alert
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>>9153859
Sorry dude as someone that started seriously cooking like a month ago, cooking a steak really is that simple. You must be doing something majorly wrong
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>>9153859
I feel sorry for the people who have to come into conact with you though no fault of their own.
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>>9153836
>partner
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Why are you guys talking about steak in a cheap healthful food thread?

He has a point though; making healthy food actually taste good is difficult when you're retarded.
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>>9153778
>I hate not knowing how to cook.

Then lurk or learn and shut the fuck up in the meantime, bitch.
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>>9153836

I'm not fat, I just think meal prepping is stupid. It's the number one way to remind kids that they're poor (which you probably are because you have four fucking kids and both of you have to work), and that their parents don't have time for them.

>>9153838

Still $5+ bucks a pop for a regular salad, without drink or anything. You can get four Jr. cheeseburgers and a drink for the price.

I'm not saying people should be unhealthy, but pretending like it isn't if you don't want bland, shitty food, or don't have the time to cook, is silly.
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>>9153781
>Pity me because I can't use a condom
Fuck off breeder
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>>9153877
i have no reason to lie on an anonymous imageboard or any medium infact.
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>>9153881
So we agree that OP is, once again, retarded.
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>>9153885
You're either trolling or one of the prime examples for why no one should feel bad for the American poor
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>>9153885
> I just think meal prepping is stupid
hahaha
> It's the number one way to remind kids that they're poor
WHAT!
>(which you probably are because you have four fucking kids and both of you have to work), and that their parents don't have time for them.
I wish i didn't work so i could sit next to my children a school

You're so stupid i don't know where to start
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>>9153839

Not five nights a week they won't. They'll fuckin' eat half and go to bed. Because kids are stupid and don't care about nutrition. But if you force them to eat shitty and bland poor people food every night, the first moment they get out of your supervision they're gonna pack themselves full of the shit they can't eat.

>>9153847

And then they don't eat. And you send your kids hungry to school. And you get shit on by the teachers or your kid learns to resent you or a million other fucking things.

You don't deserve a fucking medal of honor for making shit food and sending your kid to bed hungry.

Anyways, this is a thread about healthy food being more expensive than unhealthy food, not a parenting thread.
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>>9153921
You are a terrible parent. I genuinely hope you feel bad about how poorly you've raised your children.
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The "Healthy" options are always expensive in restaurants because of the emphasis on fresh ingredients instead of preservative-laden trash. Eating healthy at home is easy, but most lardasses aren't willing to either spend a bit more or actually cook stuff when they can buy a meal's worth of pizza rolls for 2 bucks.
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>>9153900

Again, not poor. Just understanding why parents make these decisions. In a perfect world, parents would come home and cook a decent meal for themselves and their kids every night. But when you're stretched paycheck-to-paycheck and work two jobs, I get it.

>>9153918
>Mom and dad can't afford to feed you anything but bulk ingredients that we cook sometimes as far as six days back, enjoy perpetual leftovers

Screams poor to me.
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>>9153940
>>Mom and dad can't afford to feed you anything but bulk ingredients that we cook sometimes as far as six days back, enjoy perpetual leftovers
>Screams poor to me.
When did i say any of that?
>reading comprehension
Seems to me like your just a shit human being who eats fast food because your to lazy to cook and if you have children i feel really sorry for them
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>>9153921
Gather all your children into a room and off yourself so they can watch.
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>>9153863
You have to season, make sure shit is the right temperature so you don't overcook, etc.

I only used a steak for example. The list gets super bigger with other foods.

The only shit that you can just plop on a plate is a salad but you still gotta cook the meat if you want to add it.
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>>9153951

You replied to a post I replied to about meal prepping. And then said "WHAT" when I called it stupid.

Meal prepping is gross. But if I misread it, and you feed your kids night to night, I apologize and shouldn't have been a dick. Meal prepping triggers me, especially in bulk for a family.

Sorry for being an ass.
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>americans complaining about food prices
>at all

one of the richest countries on earth with the cheapest prices for food in the west. what the fuck are people doing wrong?
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>>9153963
you're just a lazy fat bitch and everyones against you in this thread.
>you have to season
well i see your point, that's a good hour or two
>right temp
it takes me a good hour to take meat out of the fridge and watch it to room temperature
Just fucking stop, your man must a fucking idiot to put up with you
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>>9153963
You don't have to season and you can eyeball pretty much everything and be just fine. Anyone who says they can't cook is just a lazy fag making excuses
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>>9153986
>you don't have to season

Fucking bullshit.
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>>9153965
>Meal prepping triggers me, especially in bulk for a family.
This is one of the stupidest opinions I've ever read on this website.
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>>9153994
You don't. You're not buying high quality steak to make at home, serve it with steak sauce, it doesn't matter.
I wasn't exaggerating when I said only lazy fags making excuses say they can't cook. You're choosing to throw up barriers for yourself to justify why you don't do it. I don't give a shit if you want to eat meals made by other people for the rest of your life, but don't pretend that making it yourself is in any way hard.
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>>9153996

If you actually like food, meal prepping is a one-way trip to hating it. I feel bad watching my coworkers shovel the same bland crap out of their tupperware every day.

The only time I can justify it is if you have a dietary restriction.
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>>9153996
>Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Meal prepping Use especially in bulk Even Go for a family. Want to do Look More Like?
I tried but i cannot make it anymore retarded
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You people clearly don't know what opportunity cost is.
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>>9154010
It's kind of amazing how stupid every post you've made in this thread is. The raw consistency of it shows you're not faking, and it makes me sad. The idea that meal prepping is inherently bland and unfulfilling is astonishingly unintelligent, and I can only imagine you as american spurdo
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>>9154019
It's the term that kind economists use to explain away the correlation between poor people and laziness
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>>9154021

Yep, it wasn't faking. I think it's shit. But I'm heading out of this thread. I feel bad I derailed it. Anyways, I'll be laughing at any of you if you work with me. Night.
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>>9154024
Well, thank god I don't work at a wallmart then.
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>>9154024
Is eating soiled nappies/diapers a job?
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>>9154033
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>>9153527
Because they cannot comprehend portion control.
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>>9154003
I know when I "cook" shit with no seasoning and it tastes bland as fuck I didn't cook it right. It's not barriers or any shit, I know that shit isn't right.

It's not like I haven't tried, pic related is an "attempt". I put in like 30 minutes into prep and I didn't even know how long to keep it in the oven. Even taking it out early it was super tough and taste seasoned enough. I didn't even eat all of it.
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>>9154052
>rack
>grill
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>>9153881
Steak is pretty cheap if you get something like round or sirloin. It's nice to have once or twice a week.
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>>9154052
So throw some fucking sauce on it, or put it in a sandwich, or a soup, or fucking anything. Or fucking google how long you're supposed to put porkchops in the oven, there are thousands of recipes online, and all of them work just fine. How fucking dumb are you that you are having a hard time applying heat to a piece of meat?
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>>9153533
No.
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>Access to the world's database of cooking instructions and recipes
>Still cant cook
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>>9153527
went to the grocery store today and bought

>1 quart half&half cream
>400g walnuts
>ten stalks of celery
>2 bell pepper
>5 apples
>300g ground turkey
>kg chicken
>bunch of bananas
>5 mini cucumber
>1 regular cucumber

$72.00
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>>9154156
what's it like living in canada, did you have to give up your car to a gay muslim?
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>>9153545
Farmers market are overpriced bullshit, they sell more prepared foods like Indian, rotisserie chicken, pot pies etc.
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>>9154156
How many limes are you hiding?
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>>9153778
>I hate not knowing how to cook.
You can learn how to cook form youtube. It's not wanting to get into the habit of cooking that's really your problem, and that's because you're lazy. Being lazy is either expensive or unhealthy, usually both.
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The biggest limiting factor in learning to cook is money and then time. People act like its easy but most things you are forced to buy in bulk and then you have no idea what to do with that obscure ingredient before it goes bad.
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>>9154162
my car wouldnt start this morning i actually had to bike over there

>walk up to cashier
"did you walk or drive?"
"i biked my car wouldnt start this morning"
"haha your car is your bike!"

so yeah i didn't technically give my car up
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>>9154194
is this a reference to that picture ... some celebrity posted of what a family should buy to be healthy
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>>9154212
>great, now i'm stuck with ten pounds of potatoes and onions
>what the fuck do i even do with this?
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>>9154220
if you wern't so much of a faggot you'd get into the teleporter instead of wanking yourself stupid on the holodeck.
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>>9154287
that was gwyneth paltrow, a stupid american cunt who named her child "apple".
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>>9154194
>>9154302
THERE ARE 4 LIMES
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>>9153986
>white people
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>>9154302
you are without honor
>>9154326
oh man i haven't laughed out loud at a post in awhile
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>>9153527
My largest barrier to eating healthy right now is my work schedule.

I make my own breakfast and lunch, but after a 12 hour work shift I simply cannot be fucked to cook my own dinner. I'd rather just wait 5 minutes at Jack in the Box or Sonic for a burger or something instead of expending the negative amount of mental energy I have left on frying an egg.

I have eliminated most sugary drinks from my diet though, so I've got that going for me.
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>>9154333
i know that feel also when i was working 60 hours a week i needed at least 2 litres of beer a day after work for sanity
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>>9154330
eating monkeys, lizards,mosquitos, sun baked mud, other humans, crisps/chips with hot sauce and lemon/lime juice, shit out of cows arseholes ect...
>non white people
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>>9153647

>get a load of this guy

Is rice "free" too?
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>>9153666

No, don't eat raw broccoli

Is this a meme or has anyone actually had raw broccoli that wasn't dipped in ranch?
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>>9154351
What? It tastes perfectly fine. Are you a literal child?
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>>9154317
Apple is a much better name than North
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>>9154348
about 0.75$ a cup
But seriously, if there's a river near where you are you can go catch a fish and eat it.
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>>9154363
not him but a huge amount of freshwater fish in NA are full of neurotoxic chemicals absorbed from mining and farming operations, additionally parasitic organisms you can ingest and harbor unknowingly for decades
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>>9154331
Thanks man.
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>>9154356
My names not North.
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>>9153940
>Mom and dad can't afford to feed you anything but bulk ingredients that we cook sometimes as far as six days back, enjoy perpetual leftovers

Says the fucking autist who would rather feed his kid a mcdouble because he's too fucking lazy to care about his kids nutrition
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>>9153527
It depends entirely on where the person's living. Some produce/meat is cheaper in some places than others due to however many different reasons.
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>>9153533
>processed food is easier
ftfy
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>>9154397
I know.
Kayne West named his daughter North.

Apple is a nice sounding name next to North West
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>>9154298
Not everything you get at the store is as simple and everyday as those and you know it.
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>>9154460
Name five things you're forced to buy in bulk that will go stale in less than a month.
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>>9153583
nobody desires to eat like a medieval peasant in 2017 even if the medieval peasant had better teeth
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>>9154467
Peasants did not have better teeth. No one from that time period did.
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>>9154441
i don't have a black persons child name updater app.
>knowing this
I bet you like fish sticks!
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>>9154467
A lot of shit peasants ate back then are now considered delicacies and this seems to be a recurring theme in history. Taste is more important than what you think is peasant food.
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>>9154515
*if you're really stupid
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>>9153527
I don't think anyone does believe that OP. The real argument is that it's expensive to eat healthy, without sacrificing some degree of choice, taste and convenience.

Processed foods taste good, you have a wide range of options and they're quick and easy to prepare. While at the same time being cheap.

The same can't really be said of healthy foods. If you want the same level of choice & convenience, then you really do have to pay more.
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>>9154497
grass and turnip?
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>>9153546
>HIGHLY RADIOACTIVE IF IT CAME FROM THE PACIFIC OCEAN.
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>>9153732
Have you checked the price of one night in the hospital? Ya fuckboy you can't afford that either.

Americans in particular are used to ''Value'' and saving a buck but have no concept of the long term side effects of the cheap food.

If you buy cheap food and think regular priced foods are expensive you are the problem. Sure, some premade organic freezer meals are expensive but that is because you are comparing the organic food to the GMO conventional bottom of the barrel foods.

Only a fool would think they should cut corners when it comes to food OR food production.


>YOU WILL PAY THE FARMER OR PAY THE DOCTOR.

Even better, GROW YOUR OWN.
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>>9154156
Go to Superstore. You can buy 2kg bags of frozen vegetables for around $4. Most also have 5kg boxes of frozen chicken legs for $19. Make chicken soup.

There, you are set. Being Canadian is no excuse.
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>>9153616
>In terms of opportunity cost, it is. When you've spent a full day working and exhausting yourself, there aren't many cheap, convenient, healthy food options, both for you, and a family. Unless you want to spend an hour prepping and cooking, you're going to save a lot of time and money just grabbing a burger, or popping something in the microwave.
Look at this fucking lazy ignorant fuck! I work 11 hours a day and it takes me about 1 hour to drive each way and I still manage to avoid processed foods and cook myself fresh meals. You're pathetic if you tell yourself this when you eat your 5 mcdoubles
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>>9153707
>comparing hunting and farming to fishing
fuck you're a retard
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>>9153885
>I just think meal prepping is stupid
>It's the number one way to remind kids that they're poor
>*eats four jr cheeseburgers*
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>>9154052
>I didn't even know how long to keep it in the oven
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>>9154375
>not him but a huge amount of freshwater fish in NA are full of neurotoxic chemicals absorbed from mining and farming operations, additionally parasitic organisms you can ingest and harbor unknowingly for decades
yes goy food only comes from the supermarket don't go looking for it on your own now!
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>>9153665
>Fishing license
What communist hellhole do you live in where that's enforced?
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>all these lazy fucks saying "muh I have no time to cook" somehow are able to argue on 4chan for HOURS that they themselves say they don't have
Guess what, most meals don't even need 15 minutes of actively doing something unless you cook for a family of 5, literally 80% of the time it takes to cook a meal you don't have to do anything
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>>9155418
Scumbag poacher detected. I hope you get caught and they take away all your fishing equipment and hunting popguns, bar you from ever having a license and sentence you to 1 year with Tyrone as your new bedfellow.
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>>9155194
Government agencies spiked water supplies with LSD at one point as part of a mind control experiment. Unless you fish in designated locations you're just asking for trouble. And even then that's sketchy as fuck.

It's simply not worth the the hassle for the common joe.
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>>9153559
The tin of tuna I had yesterday had a whole 0.1g of salt in it.
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>>9153616
>an hour prepping and cooking

kek

/ck/ everybody.
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All it takes to not get fat is to eat less. Less food is cheaper than more food. Poors are just retarded
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>>9154021
Meal breb is for fugging blebs :DDDD
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>>9155485
The last time I went fishing was five years ago in a local stream
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>>9153545
>Amazon accusation
*acquisition
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>>9153658
>>9153665
If you live near a coast, just fish for octopus and crab. Octopus is especially easy. Don't even need bait. To catch one, go under a pier or bottom of a cliff jutting out from the ocean and put a bucket on its side under the water held down with heavy rocks and leave it there overnight. Come back the next morning and quickly scoop up your bucket. There will likely be an octopus inside. Usine multiple buckets increases the likelihood.

To catch crab, just get a cheap-o crab trap and bait it with chicken necks and/or wingtips. They cost as little as 10Eurobucks or less so maybe 15Ameribucks or so. They're reusable, so the investment can potentially catch you dozens of crabs.
>but bait!
Well, you're likely gonna be eating chicken sometime in the next few weeks. Just save the scraps and use those. While crabs tend to prefer raw chicken, they ain't picky and will certainly go for any leftovers of the Colonel's extra crispy wingtips you may wind up with.

If you live somewhere inland and therefore only have lakes and streams, aren't crayfish easy to catch, too? And freshwater oysters as well. Also, I'm not sure, but I think crayfish and oysters are a-okay to harvest without a license in much of the US or am I mistaken?
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>>9153559
>muh sodium
NIGGA JUST DRINK WATER
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>>9153533
Per calorie, but most people are already taking in more than they need.
Regarding nutrients, healthy food is cheaper.

>>9153532
Besides that fatties can do just fine with less calories.

>>9153616
Just buy a slow cooker and look for 10-12 hour recipes.
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>>9154333
hey, you're doing better than most people anon
seriously. when you're waiting in that line take a look around at most of the other people there
they aren't bad people for eating fast food or anything. but I guarantee you at least some of them don't put in the amount of effort you do
anyway, don't let it go to your head. but just feel assured that your efforts are not in vain
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>>9153527
>Why do people believe this?

Because they don't know how to cook from scratch. When your idea of eating healthy is to buy healthy branded processed food then yeah, that's expensive.
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>>9153616
Unless you work construction kys
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I dont know if its healthy but one of my favorite quick side dishes is just to cube potatoes (red is best), drizzle with olive oil, salt, pepper and garlic powder and bake. Can do the same with carrots and onions.
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>>9153669
Good point
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>>9155122
good advice thanks im poor as hell
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>>9155485
>needing a license
>not being native
white man btfo!
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>>9156172
lentils are a godsend when poor. Their taste defines "bland" but you get used to it. They're like $2 for a bag that'll last many weeks eating them every night for dinner
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POVERTY MYTHBUSTERS EPISODE #16

FUN FACT:

Contrary to the popular stereotype that "Merican Niggers are obese because they're poor" the CDC has provided statistics that show the opposite.

Black makes actually increase their Obesity, Diabetes, & Heart Disease rates as they make MORE money.

Wonder why?
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>>9153859
So you're a fat spurg who would rather fish for sympathy instead of actually learning a basic task that 90% of people already know how to do.
/ thread
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>>9157098

Its not like niggers in poverty aren't eating well... EBT, Food Stamp, and Welfare participation are at all time historical highs in America.

"Thanks Obama?"
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>>9153762
>t. someone with no kids
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>>9153527
I've been arguing with people who claim this shit for years. Most of them are going to expensive organic stores and getting 16$ organic chicken breasts, I guess.
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I think they just want to believe this so they can go on eating shit. I mean, I guess if your eating a box of Mac and cheese or Ramen noodles every night it might be technically cheaper, but I made some crockpot lentil stew today and all the ingredients literally cost less than three or four dollars. This will feed a family of 6
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>>9155485
>Sea fishing
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>>9153527
because time is money
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>>9153546
this is definitely not true where I live.
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I made quick, semihealthy poor people food for dinner for myself and my ho.

Sweetpea risotto, lemoned chicken thighs, butter-braised carrots and garden salad. Total cost for two people: about $3.50.
Took only 15-20 minutes to cobble together, too.
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>>9153527
fat people are usually lazy it could be lack of exercise or in meal prep. It is a lie fat people tell themselves as an excuse to be lazy and get pre prepared food. Will admit I am guilty of being fat and getting processed food for convenience when I do not have time to cook but I am not going lie about it being cheap to eat healthy. Fast food is universally more expensive than even a home made copy of that fast food. Healthy food like in season veggies, chicken breast, rice, and beans are all super cheap.
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>>9154156
I have access to the Northwests premier supermarket a magical place called WinCo that puts walmart to shame on low prices and it treats its employees as human beings. I can walk in there 24 hours a day 7 days a week and on most holidays at reduced hours and buy all that stuff for around 30 freedom bucks. You must live in a large city or way north or up in canuckistan ,possibly all 3.
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>>9153543
Real American here, fast food is in fact cheaper. At Burger King you can get a 4 for 4 meal which includes a drink, fries, a burger or chicken sandwich and a cookie.

For $4. Try making all that for $4 at home. Not to mention you'd have to buy oil, butter or whatever to cook with and seasoning so it doesn't taste like shit.

Theoretically you could live off of $40 a week eating burgers, fries and sodas. Some places let you fill up your drink yourself so free refills and a free drink to walk out with. Burger King also has 10 nuggets for like $1.49, fast food isn truly cheaper.

Mcdonalds has cheeseburgers for $1, you could 3 burgers and a small soda for less than $5.
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>>9157808
>my ho
are you a fucking rapper or something?
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>>9153527
Tell yourself a lie long enough, and you'll believe it.
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>>9159069
Typo. Forgot the E.
Garden tools gotta eat, too, homie.
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>>9154333
Have you tried to meal prep one day? Fill your freezer with food you've made and pick from 5 different things you've cooked
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>>9154156
>didn't buy 7 limes

Pleb
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the doctor told me to eat lean meat and complex carbs.

a meal like pic related is less than $2 for me. i get my pork chops on sale. :)
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>>9153527

eating healthy isn't expensive

eating TASTY healthy foods is expensive
go ahead and try to compare the taste of wheat toast with lettuce and cucumber with that avocado quinoa bullshit sandwich

ofc, bacon cheeseburger will defeat them both. hell, any meaty sandwich, even
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>>9159799
>eating tasty healthy food is expensive

Cut out the sugar and your tastebuds start to get back to normal. You can eat tasty AND healthy by learning how to cook, and learning what food tastes like when you stop inundating yourself with garbage.
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>>9159813

hold up, so let's get this clear

too much sugar in diet will numb our tastebuds? or is it just our tastebuds got used to how sugary my diet has become?

for cooking tasty healthy food... well, I'm not THAT interested in eating healthy foods, but I guess that's good thing to learn no matter what food I like

fine points, anon
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>>9153705
Yeah alright, but the landwhales we are talking about are bar none loser deadbeats whose time is worth nothing, don't even pretend they aren't.
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>>9159819
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sugar-Apparently-Numbs-Taste-Buds-205187.shtml
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>>9153702
>if i dont give my wifes son nuggets he'll be mean to me
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>>9159849

found the science journal the article was referring to
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666311002649

tl;dr -- sweets make you taste less, makes you obese, and crave even sweeter things, which makes you taste even less, and repeat

kind of a sugary self-destructive cycle we got here
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>>9159881
You can learn to enjoy the taste of healthy things.

I used to shovel garbage on a daily basis. Then I had enough, cleaned the shit out, bought healthy food in. Used MyFitnessPal app to count calories. It sucked at first. But I got to enjoy it. A few months after doing this, I went to BK with a few friends. Bought a whopper meal and soda. Ended up throwing it all out because the sugary taste of the food was too much.
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>>9159057
You cant make that with $4 because most places wont sell you 1 patty worth of meat, 1 bun, etc. You buy ingredients in BULK so you save money over time. $4 might buy you a burg, friends and soda but $20 will buy you way more than 5x that amount if you make them yourself.
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>>9159057
>For $4. Try making all that for $4 at home.

I can make it for much less than $4 at home. And I can also make it much better since it's freshly prepared and not made in a factory somewhere and reheated for your order.

>>Not to mention you'd have to buy oil, butter or whatever to cook with and seasoning
Sure. But that's all basic stuff I have in the kitchen anyway. Owning cooking oil and seasonings is just as basic as owning shoes and a toothbrush.
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>>9154333

get a thermos can, fill it with something hot and tasty, eat it at work. Eat something quick and small when you get off work.
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>>9159914
This. It doesn't take all that long for your sense of taste to recover from being pummeled by fat, salt and sugar. Not even a month. And once you readjust going back to fast food isn't nearly as pleasurable as you used to think. It tastes like the trash that it is.
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>Spend $90 a week on rice, beans, dairy, meat, non GMO organic produce
>Or spend $21 a week eating from the dolla menu 3x a day at my local mcburgburgs

hmmmm
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>>9160199
>buying non gmo
It's like you want overpopulation to be an issue
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>>9160199
>Non GMO, organic
dank memes. You just took 20$ a week and added 70 for avacado, strawberries and limes. Get a bag of something in season and/or local.
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>>9153527
They see shit burgers on a dollar menu, and then foolishly look at the combined cost of ingredients for the same thing at a store, not realizing that for tye few dollars extra cost, they could make a ton of same-sized burgers at better quality.

Also, they don't even stop to think about beans, lentils, polenta, or other cheap foods that can stretch a dollar far. Shit, for about $5 you can make a ton of vegetable soup, and for $7 you can toss in some chicken.

It generally boils down to a mix of not knowing enough about cooking, and/or not knowing how to manage money well.
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>>9160240
>It generally boils down to a mix of not knowing enough about cooking, and/or not knowing how to manage money well.

Fucking this.

People look at a fast food menu and say "oh, it's only five dollars, that's nothing" but fail to realize that they could get multiple meals for that money by doing it themselves.
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>>9160240
But then im forced to eat nothing but hamburgers for an entire week since they dont sell ground beef in individual patties unless its frozen which you just said was the devil.
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>>9160282
Not at all.

You can use the ground meat to make all sorts of other things than burgers. It's very flexible.

Or you can buy your ground meat from the butcher counter and simply ask for how much you want. Ask for a 1/4 lb or whatever other quantity you might want.
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>>9160282
That's not what I said and you know it, faggot.

Besides, there is a good chance that people trying to get by on fast food will have several mouths to feed, and if so, the home-made burgers will see them get more value than a $1.39 McDouble per person, us whatever else they add on to the order.

Besides, ground beef can be frozen if you buy extra, and it can be used for a variety of preperations. You aren't damned to eat nothing but burgers for the rest of your days.
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>>9160299
>You can use the ground meat to make all sorts of other things than burgers. It's very flexible.

this. Make a burger one day. The next day make shepherd's pie. The day after that make meatballs. Then some pasta sauce, and so on.
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>>9160282
>not wanting to eat hamburgers for an entire week
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>>9153527
Because it takes effort to go grocery shopping and cooking your own food.

Fat / poor people are lazy and lack motivation to do these things.

I mean, sure, a burger or a pizza might be tastier than a simple soup, a chicken breast or vegetables, but eating the former crap 24/7 will also make sure you die of a cardiac arrest at the ripe age of 52.

What do you value more, a longer healthier life or a shorter hedonistic trip.
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>>9159057
You can buy chicken, rice, veggies and spices for two weeks for that and still have money left over.

You eat it because it's easy, you lie to yourself that it is cheaper. You consume all that sugar, fat, sodium and end up feeling bloated and possibly develop health problems in the future if you keep your diet the same.
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>>9159057
Nigga, when I was at my poorest I lived on $40 a month. Fast food is not cheaper
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>>9160363
>posting animu on the food and cooking board
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>>9160437
>a longer healthier life or a shorter hedonistic trip.

Anon, I'm pretty sure I know what most people prefer.
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>>9160486
>picking the losing side in a war that's already over
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>>9154355
>people have different tastes than me what the fuck
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>>9153527
cooking good stuff with keeping expenses at bay requires a big amount of time to be invested in improving your skills in cooking and your ability to buy tasty stuff that is also cheap
so yeah it's kinda true, especially if you dont have much free time or prefer to do something else with it
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>>9160657
>cooking good stuff with keeping expenses at bay requires a big amount of time
I don't understand why people think this. Sure, there are complicated recipes, but the first time I made stirfry it was pretty fucking tasty. Tacos weren't hard either. I've gotten a lot better at making them since, but basic cooking tastes just fine and does not take almost any know how.
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>>9160665
if you are ok with eating stirfry and tacos all life while calling yourself a cook i wont stop you
anyway to a total cooking noob it's probably like asking a woman to change a car battery, even the tought of it will scare them enough not to try
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>>9160657
>cooking good stuff with keeping expenses at bay requires a big amount of time to be invested in improving your skills in cooking and your ability to buy tasty stuff that is also cheap
This is true. To do it well takes years of practice. And commitment to cooking almost every fucking day. But once you've put that in it's pretty easy to eat healthy for very cheap. I feed two people lunch and dinner nearly every day, my meals are healthy af and I spend under $40 a week on groceries. But I also spend an hour or so in the kitchen every day.
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>>9160682
exactly what i meant, if you like it it probably wont be a problem, but if you already dont like it too much, having to do it daily for all your life will probably make you consider different options
i am not saying this is the right thing to do, just that this is how it goes
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>>9160676
This post is chock full of mind numbingly stupid implications. Let's worth through them piece by piece.
>the only easy things to cook as a novice are stir fry and tacos
No, those are the two examples I used. There are many other things that are easy for anyone to just throw together. Soups and salads are great for that in pretty much all their incarnations.
>the things you start cooking are the only things you'll ever cook
Give me a fucking break. My point was obviously that it's easy to get started, and as you figure things out you learn other recipes. Every now and then you have a little free time and money and you test out a more complicated recipe. This is basic shit
>you're not a cook if these are the things you make
First off, I didn't call myself a cook. Second, I have no idea why you would attach any significance to the word 'cook' as though it is tied to any real level of skill. Third, who gives a shit if you're a cook, as long as you can make tasty food for cheap?

Kind of amazing you could fit this much wrong into one line.
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>>9160700
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>>9160709
>when you're ESL and reading more than one sentence is just too hard
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Eating "healthy" could mean anything, switching from processed, deep fried shit and bread/cheese/meat/fat combo sandwiches and going for beans and rice with lots of chicken and pork and vegetables is cheaper and I would consider it healthier.

The problem is that people think that "healthy" eating is whatever superfood fad is going on
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>>9160717
>>when you're ESL and reading more than one sentence is just too hard

The fuck you still expect people to use proper english? Ebnoics is an official American language now.
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>>9160717
>implying answering to a butthurt page long attention whoring post is a good use of your time
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>>9160733
>i-i'm not barely literate! it's not just not worth my time!!!
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>>9160690
Exactly. I'm in the habit of it, so it's no big deal. Just like being in the habit of hitting the gym. But for someone not in the habit of doing so it could be unpleasant, so they don't do it. It's not difficult, but you do have to be organized and put the time in.
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>>9157098
>Contrary to the popular stereotype that "Merican Niggers are obese because they're poor" the CDC has provided statistics that show the opposite.

So basically, niggers are trying to blame their obesity on white people, just like any other thing niggers fail at.

What's new?
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>>9153881
I can spend $20 for two at McDonald's or get a platter of Costco steaks for the same price.
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>>9159057
>Real American here
More like a real fucking autist. Keep lying to yourself about the cheap fast food meme. Just so you know, Escapism is bad for you.
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I don't get this argument :

>y-you need to know how to cook to eat healthily !

No you fucking don't. I know the very basics, yet i'm able to eat healthily on a daily basis.

>rice
>chicken or fish
>some vegetables

Boom, a healthy meal. Cooking rice, meat or fish and vegetables is what i consider the "very basics" hence the initial argument.

I don't get it.
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>>9160857
I'm with you. My cooking is generally pretty simple and definitely not technique driven. But there is some knowledge involved if you want to keep things interesting, knowing different things you can make with various ingredients and how to put meals together. That doesn't just come out of nowhere.
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The only expensive thing about eating healthy is if you go to whole foods and get the pre-packaged "healthy" snacks.
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>>9160890
>if you want to keep things interesting

I absolutely agree. But for the initial argument, which was to eat healthily, you really, REALLY don't need any kind of specific knowledge at all. Any 18 years old student able to cook pasta and meat on a pan is able to do it.
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>>9160908
Agreed, but people tend to shy away from things they find unpleasant. If you don't enjoy cooking you make excuses not to cook. If you can't make healthy meals that are varied and delicious you won't stick to healthy eating.

Like I said earlier it's like working out. If your in the habit of it getting your workout in is no big deal. If you're not working out is an unpleasant experience you try to avoid. This is why most home exercise equipment goes unused. Same goes for kitchens.
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>>9160486
>dodging the implication
well do you like burgers or not?!
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>>9160857
if you are used to fast food this kind of meal will taste like sand for a good amount of time
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>>9159057
If you could buy the same shit quality beef and baked the fries instead of deep frying them, and made some lemonade or, God forbid, drank water, you could do it much cheaper with better nutrition.
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>>9160763
I can can feed 3 people for 10 dollars, what the fuck man? How fat are you?
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>>9153527
If you live in a food desert it generally is since you have to drive/take bus for like an hour to get fresh food
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>>9157072
>>9156172
google translate this recipe and thank me later love you poorbros
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>>9161186
forgot link http://www.yemektarifleri-sitesi.com/yesil-mercimek-yemegi-tarifi
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>>9161151
Food deserts exist because grocery stores that try to open in those parts of town fail out. Surprise, surprise, poor people like eating garbage
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>>9153778
>/ck/: food and cooking
>I can't cook
Quit shitting up this board
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>>9161255
Hey I like staring at pictures of food.

And the occasional ja/ck/ thread.
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>>9153739
Is that healthy,compared to chicken breast,broccoli,and rice
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>>9160199
>falling for the organic meme

SHIGGY-DIGGY
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>>9160240
/thread
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>>9161305
is this the only shit burgers can come up with when speaking of healthy food?
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>>9154597
lobster was a peasant food
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>>9161305
yeah
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>>9154467
No, nobody desires it but that's mostly what I ate when I was poor because the alternative was processed junk worse than cigarettes. It's how I managed to maintain a healthy diet when I would have $100-$200 left each month after my bills
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>>9161358
it still is
jews convinced poors that it's now elite shit and make them pay 10 times the same thing
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>>9161366
>MOMMY WHY IS LOBSTER EXPENSIVE
>well son the sailors have to brave dangerous seas, hope for a good catch, then transport it back to land. Then the catch has to be preserved for the best taste, and shipped to the location to where it is needed. THEN, the catch has to be preserved there while it waits for someone to purchase it. All of this costs time and money, that's why lobster is expensive.
>WAAAAAAH IT'S NOT FAIR THAT'S A RIPOFF
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>>9161379
>meanwhile lots of products from the sea are almost free, but not as fancy so who cares
i wonder who's behind that nice post
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>>9159819
>too much sugar in diet will numb our tastebuds? or is it just our tastebuds got used to how sugary my diet has become?
You get used to it being the norm so anything with less sweetness won't tastes as good. Think how your grandparents would always think your candy when you were little was beyond sweet yet you loved it and their old people candy was always some weird shit. It's conditioning.
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>>9161395
The price of lobster and how exactly the industry has maintained its high demand is well documented. You could go google it instead of shitposting about jews again
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>>9161395
You know jack shit about the fishing industry, shut the fuck up and >>>/pol/
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>>9161400
>>9161401
>shilling this hard
sorry for disturbing lobster industries, i will never attack you guys again
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>>9160486
>posting animu on the food and cooking board of an anime website
feels good
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>>9161142
Water? Like from the toilet?
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ITT: Lazy people arguing that eating healthy is expensive while refusing to listen to logic and common sense
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>>9161151
>fresh food
Who said anything about fresh food? You can cook with frozen or canned food. I swear the fucking excuses.
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>>9155490
To be fair, Flint's problems stem primarily from being administered by niggers, who are totally incompetent.
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>>9161501
>ITT: Lazy people arguing that eating healthy is expensive while refusing to listen to logic and common sense

AKA: 'Merican Niggers
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It's all convenience many people that can't justify the price work too much and have too many distractions. To have a decent selection of potential meals to make you need many cooking utensils and a few appliances. You also need to shop a little smarter and at different and less common grocers. For the average non cook to start cooking and choose food better it would be akin to learning to work out and lord have mercy if you mess up your meal. It's not black and white.

I know because I was on both sides I grew up poor but my parents are Caribbean so while sometimes I would eat fast food growing up I also ate lots of home cooking. Focus on learning how to cook a few meals for fun and go from there. If you enjoy it preparing a healthy but savory chicken meal Wil be cake.
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>>9160553
Why are you pushing me?
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>>9160619
>not eating a vegetable
literal child behaviour
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>>9160682
>And commitment to cooking almost every fucking day
My man are you telling me that you are going to rely on someone else to prepare you meals for you?
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>>9160682
>a big amount of time
>"[one] hour or so"
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>>9161151
>implying you don't have at least 24 hours of free time each day let alone 4 on a weekend
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>>9161379
retard detected. Lobsters are caught with cages you just toss into the water and leave overnight
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>>9161634
>less common grocers
Why? You can find healthy shit to cook at any grocery store. That's the whole point of the grocery store.
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>>9153705

Funny how this is even considered an argument

The people that have never developed the skill of cooking or proper eating habits most likely spend more time PURELY STATIONARY than someone who gives a fuck about whether they die at 40 from a heart attack or not, yet they are always the ones who have the audacity to argue that they don't have the "time"
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This guy again: >>9157808
We had cheeseburgers for dinner tonight. Also tomato and cucumber salad with homemade vinaigrette. We're about to pop some corn kernels and watch TV.
Total cost for the two of us: about $2, including the popcorn.
How is eating healthy on the cheap difficult again?
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>>9153658

>dig for worms
>trespass with some string wrapped around a can

wow that was cheap
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>>9161715
>buying bulk beef and poultry in a fucking big name super market
>not buying rice and vegetables from ethnic smaller market

Kek I read some dumb shit this thread bit wew
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>>9154461
Not him but let me try

> tomato
> cucumber
> eggs
> lettuce
> any kind of fruit?

Am I doing something wrong or are these things something you wouldn't buy in bulk? Not trying to argue I am honestly curious. I don't really know how to cook healthy or buy in bulk (other than the obvious stuff).
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>>9161889
Any fruit or vegetable can be affordably purchased one at a time. Eggs don't go bad that quickly, and are so massively versatile it wouldn't really matter if they did.
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>>9161848
anyone ever claiming that they "don't have the time" is full of shit always
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>>9161889
>t. fatfuck making up bullshit
eggs stay good for weeks
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>>9161901
>>9161925

He said within a month. I thought they went bad in just a couple weeks. I see that Google says otherwise. 4 to 5 weeks after sell by
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>>9161917

I bet you make between $30,000 - $40,000 a year. Enough to not have to need a second job, but not enough to have a job with enough responsibility that you're not working late.

I try to cook a couple nights a week, but I still rarely have time to spend an hour in the kitchen unless I skip: friends, family, gym, and a little bit of time to watch TV or play vidya and relax.

Unfortunately there aren't options that are cheap, healthy, and convenient. At best, you get two of the three.
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>>9162026
So you have time, you simply would rather do something other than cook.

There are plenty of things that take 20-30 minutes prep included and even recipes that actually take an hour don't actually need an hour of constant supervision. You can watch TV while shit is going.
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>>9161967
Why would you buy veggies or fruit only to let them sit for a month? You don't even buy these in bulk unless you have a specific purpose for them in mind; you can buy them individually.
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>>9162084
This. Make some sacrifices to cook or stop bitching and continue to eat trash.
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>>9162026
Instead of watching tv or playing "vidya" I use this time for productive purposes.
>inb4 time on 4chan
we both do that
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>>9162084

I have things that are more IMPORTANT than cooking. And I already said I cook a couple nights a week. Committing to cooking and cleaning the dishes every night for a single guy is a pain in the ass. Sometimes you just need to relax.

>>9162094
Oh cool, you're one of those "every hour of my day must be productive and leisure time is criminal" people.

Plenty of time to cook your meals every night when no one wants to be around you for being so pretentious.
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>>9162026

>you have to spend an hour in the kitchen in order to eat healthy
>there aren't options that are cheap, healthy, and convenient.

>>9162156

>I'll literally miss out on life itself if I devote any amount of time to cultivating a positive habit

Holy fuck, what is it with people concocting these imaginative excuses to tell themselves just to get through the day? If you put half as much effort into eating vegetables or cooking as you do lying to yourself, you guys might actually not be walking, talking pieces of shit.
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>>9162352

>continues to ignore the fact that I already cook

Alright buddy!
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>>9162156
>Committing to cooking and cleaning the dishes every night for a single guy is a pain in the ass.
Get a girlfriend
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>>9162386

I don't wanna date someone so my dishes get done for me. Girls are more of a pain in the ass than they're worth.

I make plenty of money to eat out most nights though. I'm cool with that.
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>>9162372

>continues to perform dazzling rhetorical feats in the effort to win his audience

Insecurity is dripping from every word you type. Notice how I'm not bragging about my lifestyle choices to strangers on the internet? It's because I don't have anything to prove to myself. You should try taking a look in the mirror and realize that your whole argument here

>muh precious relaxation
>muh two nights of cooking
>muh busy lifestyle

Are all just carefully crafted excuses you use to validate your self worth, because the results of your habits and lifestyle choices don't do that for you.
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>>9153527
Because cum-gargling hollywood sluts like Gwyneth Paltrow told them it is
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>>9153702
AHAHAHAHAHAAHA
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>>9153996
You can add me to the stupid list. I'm from a big Italian family, our mama would never feed us pre-made portions from the freezer, and always had a fresh meal ready for everyone at dinner time. She was a full time bank manager in the city too.

I'll always make the effort to buy and prepare fresh food for my family
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>>9153702
People, even children, will eat anything if they're hungry.
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>>9159057
I seriously wonder the weight of a person that makes a post like this.

Anyway, I thought we were talking about food.

No human being should be shoving any of that poison into their mouth under any pretense that it's satisfying the part of living that's good consumption. You are purchasing health complications and a slow death.

Every single thing you listed off was deep fried G-grade meat or soda. Soda. Soda. Soda.

Soda is not food. It's not a component to what we consider a diet. Not to mention, water (yeah, that old thing) is. Fucking. Free. The word soda should not be leaving your mouth in a discussion about cost. I could probably get my day's calories eating led paint chips, but I wouldn't bring that up in a discussion like.

Anyway, blah blah blah. As has already been pointed out your are fucking lying to yourself so you can keep shoving McDonald's down your throat for three meals a day under some guise that you are saving money. To actually think that is a logical decision from any perspective makes me literally wonder if you've ever set foot in a grocery store.
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>>9162947
Ignore the fact that I've typed like a retard. I'm on mobile.
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>>9162156
>Committing to cooking and cleaning the dishes every night for a single guy is a pain in the ass.
Is brushing your teeth and showering a pain in the ass too?
>"every hour of my day must be productive and leisure time is criminal"
Taking care of my physical health is a high priority as it should be for everyone.
>pretentious
For making basic food? How fucking fat are you? You sure are filled up with excuses for your sloth lifestyle
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>>9162415
>cooking your own meals is considered bragging
Do Americans really believe this?
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>>9161860
It's not, unless you're one of those people who think that eating healthy means activated almonds and organic emu eggs. The real problem is laziness, ignorance, and the fact that many people are unused to healthy food, so it tastes bland to them.
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>understand that making healthy and affordable food is possible
>cooking is something my parents never really did and I don't know where to start in terms of making a healthy yet tasty meal

Where do I even start on this? I don't care for the 2hr prep time foodie bullshit, I just want something that is easy to make and fills me up.
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>>9164086
Cooking For Dummies book. It helped me immensely. Has a lot of basic techniques and what not, and is easy to read.
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>>9164086
>Where do I even start on this?
Pick a food you like. Find recipe. Follow directions. Compare your results to what you expect. If there are problems then figure out how to fix them for next time. Repeat.

Honestly, most cooking is quite simple once you learn the basics. Even things you might think are really fancy don't take very long once you've gotten some experience, it's just a matter of practice.
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>>9154483
>not naming it butters
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>>9162947
Water isn't free. Do you rent or something?
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>>9163421

I never mentioned America. Is that just how obsessed you are?
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>>9153702
>being so cucked by your potential children

I don't understand this meme of children as a whole not eating certain foods desu, especially broccoli. The only things I didn't eat as a kid and now do is ball pepper, but I still don't eat mushrooms or drink tomato juice. There weren't any kids that "hated veggies" or something like that.
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>>9153546
>Canned salmon, mackerel, and sardines are all very cheap.
Not in america. You can buy chicken cheaper per lb than any canned fish you can come up with.
>>9153527
>Why do people believe this?
Because for you to "eat healthy" in most of the world, it would mean going without grains and carbs, and since people in generally don't like greens and vegetables, they see the only alternative increasing their protein intake, which is expensive.

Eating healthy cheaply, literally means going vegetarian, most people don't like greens, because most people can't cook them in a way that leaves them delicious.
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>>9164792
Just because chicken may be cheaER doesn't mean those foods aren't cheap too.
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>>9164800
that depends on how you look at it. if we go by the standard "there's cheaper than this but this is still cheap" you can apply that to ribeye steak if you were to buy 6oz of ribeye, it would be as cheap as a good can of sardines.
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>>9164792
>Because for you to "eat healthy" in most of the world, it would mean going without grains and carbs
no
>and since people in generally don't like greens and vegetables
vegetables are carbs you fucking retard
>Eating healthy cheaply, literally means going vegetarian
no
>most Americans don't like greens
can't argue with that
>most people can't cook them in a way that leaves them delicious.
not really possible to fuck up steaming veggies or make a salad

tl;dr fuck you are ever dumb
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BUY LIVER YOU STUPID NIGGERS
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>>9165714
no
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>>9153527
it's almost as if "expensive" is relative. hell, it's almost as if "healthy" is relative too.
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>>9165751
>it's almost as if "healthy" is relative too
unless you're an actual retard then no, it isn't
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>>9161889
You dont have to buy tomatoes in bulk. Stores will sell you single tomatoes. Same with cucumbers. Eggs won't go bad within a month, and a carton of eggs is hardly considered bulk. You sure as fuck will be using a carton of eggs within a month. Same with lettuce and fruit. Literally none of those are things you have to bulk or use in large quantities to prevent spoilage.
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>>9165761
you sound angry at the fact that there are more than two states of health: healthy and unhealthy. some people are more healthy than others. some people are mildly unhealthy. some are extremely unhealthy. that is all I meant and you had to make it into a blanket judgement of people's intelligence.
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also
>get told beans and rice are healthy
>eat beans and rice
>get screeched at by /ck/ for eating all those carbs
I give up
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>>9165772
Beans and rice are healthier, but not healthy to only eat in mass.
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>>9153781
Learn to repurpose leftovers. That's what my senpai did. Leftover qeema gets made into curry pasties. Leftover pasta gets made into frittata di maccheroni. Leftover roast gets made into sandwiches. Leftover risotto gets made into fried rice balls. Leftover mashed potato gets made into croquettes or mashed potato casserole (gattò di patate). Leftover beans get made into bajiyo. And so on.
Since my family are a rather heavily veg-eating lot, there were rarely ever any leftover veg but I can recall a few times they got made into a bisque-like soup or served in the next night's salad (we ate salad daily).
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>>9166689
>sempai
Obviously, that was meant to be 'family.' Forgive me for having shortened it and triggering the word filter.
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>>9153616
There is.
Its called a slowcooker
Put a bunch of shit in go to work come back to a lovely and healthy meal
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>>9167412
I don't think I have the confidence to leave an oven on while I'm not in the building for hours
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>>9160205
You are brainwashed. Populism is rebellion over corporate power... You know the fucking trillionaires who stole Tesla's work, killed Stan Meyers hydrogen car, and put the failing, leaking, extremely problematic nuclear reactors around the globe... Right?

Ever hear of suppressed technology. It exists you know.
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>>9167430
slowcooker isnt an oven my dudr
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>>9165664
>vegetables are carbs
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since this thread is talking about healthy food and I'm too lazy to type my question into Google, i'll ask this here.

If I'm a really fat fuck, talking 300 pounds, what are the best foods I should eat to lose weight? I have time to cook and I know how to cook. I would prefer for it to be not expensive, and for it to not taste like dirt, but I will sacrifice those if I absolutely have to
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>>9167647
stop eating the following

>sugar
>bread
>potatoes
>rice
>beans
>pasta
>any other high-carb food

and proceed as normal
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>>9167647
Whole/not worsened plant foods. You can stuff yourself every waking hour and lose weight if you're already that obese. Staying that fat requires some rather extreme dietary habits.
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>>9167645
In their defense, some veggies are high in carbs when you look at them from a keto dieter POV. My theory is all vegetables are still better than eating the processed shit you find throughout most of the store, so fuck worrying about veggie carbs.
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>>9167647
Nothing out of a box or drive thru window.

Except for a few minor staples, avoid the interior aisles of a grocery store. They hold the shit foods. Perimeters have almost everything you need.

Get a calorie counting app to help you. I use MyFitnessPal. You scan a barcode or punch in the type of food and most of the time, all the nutritonal info has already been added by someone.

Just because it's healthier doesn't meen you can't overeat on it, which is where a calorie counting app will be your best friend.

Drink water. Lots and lots of water. Talking at least 2-3 gallons a day.

Exercise. I don't mean trying to run a mile then lift till your arms are rubber 8 days a week. Any movement is good movement, as long as you are breaking a sweat.
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