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Let's have us a good old fashion beer thread. Post your favorite craft beers, cheap beers, or malt liquor. All are welcome.
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>>8946122
Is there a new Game of Thrones beer out yet?
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>>8946145
No but there is a new recipe for Harry Potter Butterbeer, faggot.
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>>8946122

Cheap, easy to drink, mild but not skunky, a nice beer to enjoy on a hot summer's day while your boyfriend cries in the bathroom as he bleaches his asspussy.
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>>8946225
I feel that way about genny. Sure it's not the best. But it's cheap and refreshing to drink. Sucks I just gave up beer for a while though, I miss it.
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>>8946122
My only problem with the organic chocolate stout is how thin it feels, like skim milk.
Also why would I ever get it when I can get a Taddy porter or Oatmeal stout
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>>8946236
I can't get into oatmeal stout. But I love Taddy Porter. It was the first European beer I ever had. If your into thicker beers definitely give this a try. Really bold flavor heavy flavor. Not sure if they sell it outside P.a though.
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>>8946230

Where I live, Genny has become the new PBR.

That said, it's pretty good desu and for the price you pay, not a bad pale lager.
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>>8946206
I drank that swill in Harry Potter land at Universal Studios.
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>drinking ¨¨¨beer¨¨¨ not brewed after the Reinheitsgebot

pleb tier
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>>8946245
You really can't beat $15 for a case. No one really drinks it here, and the hipsters haven't adopted PBR as their go to beer yet. They're too busy jacking off to every ipa with some edgy art on the label.
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>>8946254

What's an authentic Reinheitsgebot beer?

Like, they're still using the same brewing techniques, equiptment and malts they did 5 gorillion years ago.
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My friend just recently got me to try Colt 45, and honestly I was surprised by how not shit it was. It's not great but its so perfectly okay. I honestly see it turning into the go to hispter beer after the PBR craze ends.
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>>8946258
Any german beer brewed with just Hops, Malt and Water
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>>8946240
If I want a chocolate beer around here, I get this.
It has a much stronger chocolate taste but isn't really really heavy.
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>>8946256
Those are just the 30 year olds trying to stay trendy. Real hipsters are on the verge of being crust punks now. Most drink hamms in my area
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>>8946269
Is it a like a candy chocolate flavor, or does it taste like really cocoa beans. I've had both but I definitely prefer the cocoa bean taste.
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>>8946281
Damn, I've never seen anyone drink hamms around here. A lot of people here are OBSESSED with Victory's beer. It's pretty good but people in york act like it's the second coming.
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>>8946256

No fucking joke, I bought this last week only because it looked 'cool' with the lumbersexual skeleton on the bottle. Tasted like absolute garbage.

Full Sail makes a tastier IPA and they charge you mere pennies compared to New Belgium. Told some of my beer snobs the same and they balked, saying my palate was unrefined and I had childish tastes.

And honestly, I think much the same about Arrogant Bastard's IPA.
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>>8946283
It's a bit sweet, like a candy bar that was made with dark chocolate.
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>>8946293
One of my friends bought the exact same shit for the exact same reason. It tasted like shit but all Ipas taste like soap to me so I guess I can't judge. The guy I know only drinks this shit because he's convinced buying beer with a lower proof is a waste of time.
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>>8946291
Hamms is actually pretty okay and cheaper than pabst
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>>8946323
I'll have to give it try once I start drinking beer again.
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This isn't what I expected. It's a lot more caramel forward than nutty. There's some nutty flavors in the retronasal but nothing that is immediately perceptible. It's a good sweeter stout though.

>>8946122
That is an excellent beer, especially after a heafty dinner.

Shame there aren't any fresh four packs in my area.
>>8946261
As far as malt liqqas go, Colt 45 and Hurricane aren't too bad when it comes to flavor. A little bit of noble hops do come through even though they've been through more abuse than Throatfuckers.com.
>>8946293
>New Belgium
>any IPA ever
Their barrel aged sour beer are awesome but their core aside from Fat Tire are absolute shit. Hell, Ranger just tastes like an old IPA and I had one last week with a bottle date of just one week prior.
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>>8946532
Also, if anyone here isn't too autistic about meeting someone in person, I'm gonna be at Modern Times this Saturday at around noon. I have to pick up my bottles. It would be nice to meet a few other co/ck/s.
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Drinking the BIG (33 oz) can of Asahi super dry. the only macro lagers I ever drink are jap ones cause I'm a weeaboo or something I guess. Other than that I bought a 4pk of Ayinger Celebrator. Shit is pretty dope
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>>8946293
>And honestly, I think much the same about Arrogant Bastard's IPA.

yeah, no. And I think you meant Stone IPA. Not that stone is the best IPA out there but it's better than Voodoo Ranger.

Voodoo Ranger is pretty good though, and you get it for $4-$5 cheaper than something like Stone so I get these all the time. Fuck beer snobs, they can pay the tab for you if they want to balk at what you're drinking
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>>8946568
Same here, I like the weeaboo lagers better than the ones in America. I even tried a "blind" test with a bucnch of Miller, Coors, Budweiser, Sapporo, Asahi, and (even) Tsing-Tao and the chink ones tasted better to me.
>>8946588
>not drinking a local option cheaper and supporting the economy
There's a local place near me that kills it on Red IPAs and it's the tits. 11 Below if you're ever in Texas.
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>>8946609
yea i go local when i can. Sweetwater for me or anything from Asheville. I've been to Texas several times though, I don't imagine I'll be returning if I can help it.
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>>8946532
>He like Samuel Smith's and admits malt liquor isn't that bad

Good taste? On my /ck/?
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>>8946629
Trying local beers is great. I go to college in P.a and there's a ton of good beer there. Not to many great brews back home in Maryland though.
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I think I'll pick up a 40 of malt liquor tomorrow. Any suggestions? I was thinking steel reserve
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>>8946736
Old English is smooth. Drink down to the top of the label and top up with orange juice.
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>>8946736
Colt 45 works every time
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Rec me some good lambics and sours /ck/ (pic not related)

Hard mode: something not local/easily accessible throughout the U.S.
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P good
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>>8946788

Yummy! I like just about everything left hand cranks out

Except this crap. I felt so gypped when I bought a sixer and couldn't even finish the first beer :-\ passed the rest to a friend, he just tossed it out.
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had this twice in my life and its the best thing i've ever tasted

and i have had about every fucking craft beer melbourne has to offer
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>>8947241
goat wheat beer

>>8946779
have you had the geuze tilquin?
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>>8946122
god damn it, op

when i lived in london i drank obb every day

EVERY GOD DAMN DAY

there is nothing like it where i live...
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My favorite since I was 16. grew up with the brewery in my hometown. It's uses have never ceased to amaze me from beer battered halibut to just plain out getting me hammered. plus its a god beer for someone on a low budget.
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>>8947263
No I don't think any place close by sells it, sounds great from the description :( got anything that's more commercial?
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Gulden Draak, a dark belgian beer.
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>>8947420
tastes like weird apple juice. Kinda strong, not all that good tho. Better stick with IPA. First time i bought it i thought it said "guten tag." Oops.
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tried this last night
fucking based
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>>8946122
Ah man I was so excited to try this two days ago, it was such a disappointment. Tastes like a mediocre stout with chocolate flavouring.

I could have just go an Asahi. Anybody know some good quality stouts?
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>>8946122
Baltika actually released an Imperial that's super tasty. Its sweeter than hell and has gravity out the wazoo. Anybody else tried it?
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>>8947912
I tried baltika once and it tasted so bad I threw up half way through.
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>>8947921
Which baltika?
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>>8947932
9? The one that comes in the big plastic bottle
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>>8947906
>Anybody know some good quality stouts?

Petroleum, by DUM.
Unfortunately, you can probably only get it in Brazil.

It's a Cocoa Oatmeal Imperial Stout (Russian Imperial Stout) - they gave it that name because of the shittons of belgian cocoa and oatmeal used in the beer.

IBU is around 95 and ABV at 12% but the beer is surprisingly non-alcoholic tasting - the body is MASSIVE and dense, its got the deepest darkest black color I've seen in a beer, taste is phenomenal.

I work at a bar and we usually have it on TAP.
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>>8947420
its too sweet
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>>8948059
That IBU sounds like it was made for me. Do you think I can get it in England?
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>>8946293
New Belgium is shit tier craft beer for plebs.
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Good stuff imho
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>>8947937
Where do you live that baltika comes in plastic? Its fairly good in glass, Id guess yours was probably either skunked or counterfeit.
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>>8947906
How stout do you want it? Are you a fan of imperials?
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>>8948880
I don't know much about stouts, I just know I want it very stout.
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>>8947507
Nectar of the gods Anon
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>>8948887
Go for Old Rasputin if you can find it and tell me what you think. Its about as stout as a stout can stout. Back from there you could try Oatmeal Yeti.
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>>8948877
It was 51 oz
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>get addicted to fall/winter beers
>can't find any spring/summer beers I like
>can't go back to generic shit like miller or lebatt

sucks to be me
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>>8948911
Try a hefe. They're a little more heavy bodied than a lot of spring/summer offerings
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>>8948905
Thanks, I'll look for this.
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YYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>8948911
Just drink shandys and brass monkeys. Thats what I do all summer.
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>>8948911
I can't wait for summer beers personally! Radlers, fruit beers, wheat beers, berliner weisse, sours, light session IPAs/APAs, there are a ton of options. I had the best year of fall/winter beers yet and I'm still nostalgic and excited for summer stuff.

>>8946779
I just had Lindemans Cuvée René this week! I'm nowhere near an expert on lambic/geuze because regulations mean I can't find any. Top lists on ratebeer/beeradvocate should give you a good idea.
>>8946788
I enjoyed this one, even though I can't stand sweet (surprised your pour is so little though, did you pour it straight or tilted?)

I'll be in LA soon for a wedding, it's going to be a very short trip with not much free time so recommend me some beer available to pick up or places to get it. I'm not sure what area I'm going to be in yet but I should definitely find out soon. I'll probably try to stock up a bunch into my suitcase to get back to Canada.
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This shit.
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Have any Anons tried Fonteinen beer? Stupidly expensive, but incredible beer.
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>>8946122
O hey, that's my favorite one too OP. But on the bitter side I do like pic related
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>>8946254
>falling for le reinheitsgebot meme
You are the pleb tbqh
there is great beer outside of the rules and there is sure as shit awful beer within them
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>>8947507
Do you know how to read the date codes? Got a bottle in the fridge dated 0196
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>>8946262
I like stronger beers, mind if I add some yeast?
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>>8949253
Google the local stuff. If at a bar with a good beer menu at any point, ask them about the place they buy their beer, go there, and talk to the people working there. They'll hook you up. That's what I do when I travel anywhere.
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>>8946609
>not drinking a local option cheaper and supporting the economy

yep, thats why fridge is always full of deep ellum
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Drinking this guy right now. Really good, has a nice coffee flavor without the roasted or bitter notes, the hops work really with it. Not something to drink a couple pints of but one is really nice. If ever in Olympia check them out, good food and beer.
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>>8950232
No idea pham.
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>>8946122
I had 3 of these the other day. Mmmm
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>>8947269
Alaskan does not make a bad beer.
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>>8946122
Red Dog ftw
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>>8946281
Hammbition
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>>8946779
Any of the ones from Une Annee
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I like this, they have an excellent flavor
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Rate my pick up
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I've been drinking a lot of Red Stripe lately. It's good but I think the bottle shape is the biggest reason I keep buying it. It's fucking cool
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From a brewery about an hour away from me
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>I've gotta go to work soon, but I'm gonna drink this beer I bought yesterday first
>Start to feel drunk
>Look at label
>12.4% ABV
Wew lad
This shit is good though.
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>>8955244
That calibier looks völkisch.
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Anyone like chocolate stout?
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>>8955210
I am usually pleasantly surprised by Founders, though the most provocative product from them is Devil dancer. It really was a Wow... this is the power of hops and malt moment.

>>8955244
I have tried a few from Siren, I kinda get the feeling that the labels are design to justify the price.

Had this yesterday, heartily recommended. The PX-aged version is apparently even better.
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>>8955288
Yee
>>8955304
My favorites are the oatmeal stout and Rubaeus, but I'm really surprised I didn't notice the alcohol content in doom. Still a bit buzzed from one bottle.
Never had or heard of devil dancer.
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>>8955244
>Italian pizza ale
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>>8955366
tried it?
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>>8955381
Nope. Is it actually good? I meant to put an inquisitive picture with the post but got lazy
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>>8955366
Probably better than the average of the other kind of IPA.
>>8955381
How many pizzas are in it?
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>>8947241
This one right here
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>>8955390
>>8955411
I will try it probably tomorrow.
Seller told me it was weird but he liked it (balsamic and others herbs).
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>>8955322
Funny thing, did not remember the brewery but had Rubaeus some time back, good brew and might be able to find it again now. Devil Dancer is a "extreme" triple IPA. Very malty but also heavily hopped, the result is balanced.

On another note going to have a tasting soon. Sequence of samples:
1) Stiegl pils, hoppy pilsener
2) Toccalmatto Sibilla, saison
3) Hitachino Anbai Ale, salty plum wit
4) Kallio Brewing/ Amiata collab Madahan,Tropical milk IPA
5) Thornbridge Jaipur, IPA
6) Fullers Devil dancer, triple IPA
7) Anderson's Keyser Söze, cucumber gose
8) Schneider Weisse tap 5 Meine Hopfenweisse, heavily hopped Weisse
9) Stuise pannepot 12, quadrupel
10) Rochefort 10, quadrupel
11) Prykmestar Savukataja, junipersmoked bock
12) De Molen Txapela & Klompen, pic related

Now some of the beers are likely to be unfamiliar but on a general level is it going to work? Participants are all dudes.
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>>8955429
Seems kind of all over the place. Make sure you have some good snacks to wipe the taste
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This is genuinely the cider I'd recommend to anyone.
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I REALLY love this.
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>>8946122
>Organic
All alcohol is organic
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Anyone here ever tried brewing their own beer?
I would love to hear some stories!
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I down this shit like candy. Made here in town.
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>>8955945
Ingredients arent
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My go to beer after a day of work. Those Poles brought over something good with them, for sure.

On a day off, I'll probably go for a doom bar or Franziskaner.
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Opinions? Also if I have 5 of these in one night will I die
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Just realised that I have the top rated Australian beer on RateBeer in my fridge.
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Probably my favorite brewery

Anyone like them too?
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I literally drunk this every day while I lived in the Netherlands. But now, my go to beer is Weihenstephan Vitus.
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>>8959362
St. Bernardus is better desu
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>>8959364

I think they are on equal terms desu senpai. I probably drunk it as much as Rochefort 10, I just didn't post it because of the 1 image limit.
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>>8959367
Could you at least get some decently priced westvleteren during your time in NL?
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>>8959369

Found them for around 10 euros in some stores.

But I went to Sint-Sixtus at least once in a month. It's just a day trip from where I lived. 2 trains and around 3 hours, I think.

Still have a six pack of 12 and 10 aging here.
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>>8959373
Very nice.

Where i'm from they're charging almost 17€ for a 12'er
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>>8959376

Holy fuck. Where do you live? I absolutely recommend going to the abbey, if you can. Train tickets are extremely cheap inside Belgium.

Last time I literally cried because I knew it would be the last time I would visit it. Now I don't know when I'll able to come back.

My dream right now is to finish my Masters and find a job somewhere in NL just because of the beer.
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>>8959383
Denmark, so it's quite a trip
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>>8959385

If you ever think about going, then I recommend you to spend a night in Antwerp and take a train from there.

If you stay in Brussels, then you would need to change trains and it would take more time.

>Denmark

I spent a night in Copenhagen once. Quite a pretty city. Couldn't find nice beers, almost all I tried were kinda shitty. Did I miss something?

>tfw brazilian
>tfw can't get my spanish nationality because my spanish grandparents died and had no real documentation because of my shitty country
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>>8959414
>Couldn't find nice beers, almost all I tried were kinda shitty. Did I miss something?
Huh, that sounds odd. Craft is really big here and we have a ton of microbreweries, most of which do good stuff.
Mikkeller is the most famous Danish brewery, but I think it's overpriced and that we got better stuff here.
I guess you'd have to go the right places to get a bigger selection. Also doesn't help that most of the microbreweries often have a more local distribution

I''d like to go to Belgium one day, or at least have a stay there on my way to France or something like that. That might be ways off, though, since I'm currently studying and pisspoor. Maybe if I know someone going, I'll tell them to bring me some.
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I bought one of these memebeers.

Did I mess up? (I'm actually not a big IPA fan)
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Honestly didn't care for this at all
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>>8959429

I probably just got unlucky and tried only some bad beers and went to the wrong places. The trip was unplanned, so yeah.

I think it's possible to go through France, just like I did from NL, I guess it would be an even faster trip, as Poperinge is close to the border.
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>>8959435
Best fruit beer (excluding sours) I've ever had.

You shouldn't be disappointed.
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>>8959452
I'd recommend some breweries, but I doubt you'd be able to find much of it outside of Denmark. You could always try to find some Mikkeller beers, as they are pretty big internationally, and also considered the greatest Danish craft. They did some collabs with Beer Geek that's supposedly very, very good
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>>8959449
Fag
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>>8955366
>>8955244
So, I just drank the italian pizza ale.
Really smooth, and particular. Really tasty. I think I will get another one. I didn't feel the balsamic that much tho.
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>>8948167
Hey m8, sorry for taking so long to reply, as I said in my previous post I work at the Bar so night shifts fuck my sleeping schedule.

Anyways, I'm pretty certain that beer is only sold locally, it's from a very small micro brewery, which makes me sad because they deserve much more recognition.

If you ever find yourself in Brazil (not that I wish this horrible fate upon you) - try to look for a city called Curitiba, it's where its produced (where I live in).

Pic related - blonde guy is the one who crafted this masterpiece, the girl is his ex-gf, she helped him with hop selection and some other stuff if I'm not wrong.
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>>8946122
Drinking one of these, pretty average brown ale/stout hybrid. Am looking for additions to the small group of stouts without additives, and with a nice strong malt backbone and hoppy fill. On to my last two bottles of Tokyo* and terribly sad about that.
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>>8953048
My man, red stripe is the shit.
But I just like to get drunk on cheap lager so what do I know
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>>8949025
my store has these. i was wondering if its worth trying
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best I've ever had
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Any Ayinger fans here?

I'd drink this every day if it weren't $4 a fucking bottle
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>>8961590

tell me about it, brother.

its one of my top 5 beers
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Just this boy and I tonight. Party left-overs, very full
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This and smoked almonds = cummies
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>>8961923
Like a mobile bonfire of the mouth. A very enjoyable beer.
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>>8961590
One of the few beers I'd rate a 10/10

An incredible classic
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you can't go wrong with this one,but beware(7.9 alcohol)
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Been drinking this for more than 10 years
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>>8959435
No, it's good stuff

>>8959449
I tried this a few weeks back and really liked it
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>>8962441
Hasn't it gone flat by now?
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>>8961923
Think this might be the best brewery, ever. Each of their expressions is just right. If I had to pick one, either Eichenbock or Fastenbock would be #1. Too difficult to pick. A tragedy that they stopped shipping to my country due to gubmint pressure.
>>8962429
A great pick, I prefer the 0,5l bottle just to fill a stein. Had it originally in Munich like that so the 0,33l just does not cut it.

>>8962441
They opened recently in Berlin and now it is much more widely available in Europe. Could a person who has tasted both tell if there is any difference between the products?

I am looking forward to tasting two beers. Pecan mudcake IS by Omnipollo. I have the regular and double barrel aged in both cognac and smokey whisky, should be a treat since roughly half of the liquid is dissolved sugar from past experience.
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Gonna snag a case of cheap beer for daily drinking. Thinking Old Style or Hamms. Any suggestions? just need something easy to drink, cheap, but not as bad as coors or bud
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>>8963056
Easiest drinking there is.
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>>8963062
I would for the sake of memeing but I'm in the US
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>>8957609
Sour monkey is better
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I had one of these recently. It cost $19 on the menu, but I had a voucher with some money leftover, so I just wasted it on this. I'm not totally unconvinced that it's made by a bunch of trappist monks chewing tobacco and occasionally spitting into a barrel, which is then fermented and turned into this beer. It was one of the most disgustingly vile things I've ever tasted.
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>>8963147
Shit, forgot picture.
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>>8963150
>>8963147
hahahah
>remove american now
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>>8956839
good, but i prefer excelsior
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>>8946736
Mickeys but get a 6 pack of the grenades instead of a 40. 40's go flat too quickly IMO.
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the best thing to ever happen to germany
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>>8946779
Cantillon, 3 Fonteinen, Boon, etc. are probably accessible and all good. Some cantillon stuff is divine. De Cam if you can find is stunning. OWA from Japan does some great stuff, but insanely expensive but very good.
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>>8963203
>believing that anyone could dislike Westmalle
>falling for the worst bait on /ck/

Please stop disappointing your parents.
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>>8955429
I would move the gose and tap 5 earlier and the anbai ale later. Savukataja should be the last, it will just completely overpower anything you drink after otherwise.
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>>8957609
A good beer if you don't know what a tripel is supposed to taste like.
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>>8950232
Drink it and see if it's still good. Beer gets worse with age (with very few exceptions) so there's no point in waiting any longer.
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>>8959414
>Couldn't find nice beers, almost all I tried were kinda shitty.
I went to Copenhagen twice, first time I assumed that all the corner stores would at least have a small selection of craft. Boy was I wrong, most just carry Carlsberg/Tuborg. Second trip I hit up a few bottle shops and a famous corner store (Kihoskh) that sells craft and I was in heaven. I didn't get to go to any bars and have tap stuff though.
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Being to leave this here 4 you comrades.
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>>8963414
Fair point, Savukataja ended up on the list since I had to substitute an IS with lingonberries and aged with sherry cask chips since it was not available. Bumping it to last.
The idea was to let the gose and wheat be a breather and allow for contrast. If you just climb in flavour and ABV, your palate gets saturated and you can hardly taste anything. Though the Hopfenweisse is anything but light but the intention is what counts right?
The anbai ale sounds kind of spicy, but it needs to be fairly up front because it is delicate. Kinda blew my balls off with the complexity aswell. After the initial taste it gave 3 distinct transitions in flavour, superb stuff.
Thanks for the input, working on some palate cleansing snacks into the mix.

Schlenkerla sells some bottle aged versions, had a couple of 2011 vintage. Interesting, but not worth the price.
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>>8947269
You lucky dog. I tried it few times and it was just fantastic. It's hard to get and expensive where I live though (Poland).
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>>8963560
It's kind of fucked up that that brewery named a beer "Delirium Tremens"
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>>8946122
I like this and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>8963560
Both fantastic beers
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>>8959330
Definitely. The nut Brown ale is absolutely fantastic
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>>8946122
I visited the Alchemist last week
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>>8965085
yeah, but it was voted the best beer in the world for a reason
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>>8957609
delicious, also once drank a whole 6 pack sleeve, confirmed mistake

found it by drinking sour monkey first, which is also v. good
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>>8965571
When was that? It's good, but far from the best beer I've had.
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>>8965571
by who? last I checked the highest rated on ratebeer was still westvleteren 12, though that's likely in big part due to it's rarity
anyway, it's impossible to say a beer is "the best in the world" anyway because there are so many styles of beer, how can you compare i.e. a great stout to a great trippel?
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Are you supposed to chill trappists?
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From St. Arnold's Brewery in Houston, Texas:

"Essentially it is brewed using a Kölsch recipe with the addition of Munich and black malt"
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>>8962441
That is some good stuff desu. Here's what I've been drinking last two days.
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>>8966524

Just a bit. To around 10 degrees.

Generally I get one at ambient temperature and put in the freezer for around an hour or just half, depending on the temperature.
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>>8966614
Alright, thanks.
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>>8966524
No, the monks aren't properly dressed for that.
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>>8966833
Dude those robes look warm as fuck
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Any good (actually good not just the first thing you think of) non-alcoholic beers? Tried Coors n-a today, it wasn't great
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>>8946779
Duchesse de Borgogne, the main Petrus sours are pretty solid (not the quad), Monk's cafe. The Rodenbach line is good, especially if you pay for better than their baseline, like the Grand Cru.

For fruitier beers, the New Glarus beers out of WI are all pretty solid- Raspberry tart, Belgian Red and Serendipity. Good luck getting them out of state though.
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>>8947420
Kwak is a good beer pretty simlar to this. It also isn't overly dark. Slightly maltier than a traditional tripel, not quite as dark as a quad. The 10.5% in both it and the 9000 is nice though.
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>>8953696
That's some beautiful glassware, anon.
>>8955926
I work at a place that specializes in Belgian beer. I'd definitely check out St. Bernardus Abt 12 and Chimay if you haven't. Also Delirium Tremens, and some of the Trappist tripels, like La Trappe and Tripel Karmeliet, as sort of lighter explorations of similar ideas.

Has anyone else had this? It's pretty amazing. Their chocolate barista quad helped me get through the winter
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>>8967444
I think bitburger is the only halfway decent non alcoholic beer. Haven't tried too many though
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