Monsanto is a chemical company that was started in the year

To make things worse, Monsanto has sued farmers and have won in court! Monsanto has patented (copyrighted) GMO seeds, making them illegal to use/ sell unless paid for. Many crops, such as corn, are wind pollinated and can easily contaminate a neighbouring farmer’s organic crop (via wind).
When their crop tests positive for GMO and they don’t pay Monsanto- they sue the farmers and succeed in doing so! See how they can scare farmers?!
These crops, because of how large the sale is, must be maintained with the use of chemicals. (Chemicals synthesized by Monsanto as well). As stated before, Monsanto’s use of pesticides and fungicides contain chemicals that are very harmful to us and the environment. It’s odd how a chemical can kill all the plants (weeds) around the crop but not the actual crop itself. When it rains on these crops, its causes a toxic runoff that drains into bodies of water and pollutes them! Hence why it’s only recommended to eat fish once a week, as their mercury levels are so high (and for some reason we take that as fact and we’re all okay with it!)
The only financially reasonable way we can help is to spread the word and raise awareness of this company and what’s its doing to us and our planet. As a company that only cares about revenue, when people become aware, their sales will go down! When more people find out, Monsanto will only have two choices: either change their ways or go out of business.

My focus is on the health effects of pesticides on us and the environment. And also, the hardships of famers (especially 3rd world). Here are some scholarly articles that are a better source than the blog (Blog is written by a doctor though).
www.researchgate.net/publication/7302066_Aquatic_Toxicity_Due_to_Residential_Use_of_Pyrethroid_Insecticides (click on PDF, is 8 pages).
http://pub.epsilon.slu.se/3364/
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-0-585-36973-0_1#page-1
http://www.jstor.org/stable/1311994?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
http://www.toxicsaction.org/problems-and-solutions/pesticides
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2984095/
Thanks everyone for your time reading this and perhaps together we can discuss environmentally sustainable agriculture such as polyculture (see google lol)! I appreciate everyone’s feedback, negative or positive. A quick reminder that not everyone will agree (even some farmers), so remember to be patient and respectful of everyone’s opinion… as change does not happen overnight!

>>8743309
>Many people aren’t even aware of their existence
Incorrect. Most people just have the intelligence to realize that agent orange back then doesn't instantly deligitimize future inventions. In fact, monsanto is under massive scrutiny and yet people still can't fault gmos without being completely flawed

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>people genetically modify organisms for thousands of years
>suddenly it's bad

>>8743327
There's a huge difference between selective breeding over generations of crops and inserting salmon genes into tomatoes. I'm not saying it's bad, but equating the two is asinine.

>>8743327
first gmo was in 1983 so that's not a thousand years

>>8743347

Two methods for achieving the same result. You can end up with shitty products both ways. The only difference is the methodology.

>>8743349
>What is a dog?

Do you feel better now that you've copy-pasted your little rant OP?

>>8743395
Brazilian cheesecake

>>8743309
Bayer created Zyklon B
Volkswagen produced cars for the Nazis
SNCF transported people to concentration camps
Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and General Dynamics make things that kill thousands daily

A lot of companies do shit under government orders, how is Monsanto any different?

>>8743364
your mom?

>>8743442
monsanto continues to partake in illegal and unethical business practices

What I don't get about the Monsanto fuss is that why farmers can't buy non-Monsanto seed?

Are Monsanto seeds subsidized? Or are they just such an amazing improvement over traditional seeds that farmers can't economically compete unless they sell to virtue-signaling hipsters at Whole Foods?

Also, did they insert genes that prevent seed reuse? Arguably this is planned obsolescence and should call for fines or removal of patent, IMHO. Since patents are an artificial monopolization of the market, we have to apply limits on them, like utilities. We don't/shouldn't let drug patent holders jack up the price on patents because they want money, like the Epipen/insulin shit

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>>8743327
>Literally defending the Umbrella corp of the agricultural world.

>>8743309
>repurchasing seeds
If the GE crops aren't economical enough to grow without making a loss once you buy new seeds, then why buy them in the first place? If they'd make more net profit with traditional crops then they have the freedom to do so. GMO crops are not intrinsically bad, it's the way that Monsanto conduct themselves that is problematic, if they are bullying farmers. If they produced GM crops which seeded themselves they wouldn't make any money because people would just breed the plants and not buy their seeds which would have inflated prices to cover R&D costs. If there's enough demand for new strains of crops to counter different new diseases every year or so, then people would buy their seeds from Monsanto if they wanted that extra level of resistance, but this would incur even more R&D costs.

But as >>8744682 says, this is also questionably legal under the grounds of planned obsolescence. I think they can and have avoided this under the grounds that the plants dying is their obsolescence and not them not seeding, and since plants dying is unplanned and unavoidable, this is legal. Still, I have no doubt that they're making quite the profit off this.

>>8744682
>why farmers can't buy non-Monsanto seed?
If your neighbor has monsanto seeds, and the wind carries the seeds to your fields, then the company can (and has successfully) sue(d) you for growing their plants.

>>8743309
>sterile crops
>accidental pollination from neighbours
Which one is it OP.

>muh chemicals
>muh geemohse

Based Monsanto

>>8744935
different products same company, anon

This shit should be considered advertising and treated like that. I had it with all the """activist""" wankers shitting all over the web.

Polluting someone elses crops should be illegal. The fact that it can contaminate other ppls crops should make it bannable .

But using my logic if we eat these crops we will become immune to pestecides too.

>>8744953
Thing is that monsanto is selling sterile seeds that need to be sow every year, so risk of pollination to another field is minimal

>>8745007
Its still proven to infect other farmers crops causing massive financle and personal losses.

They need to pay for those losses and their product should be banned untill they prove it cannot infect others.

>>8743309
Rant moar nutcase.

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>Big corporate shilling is the new edgy

>>8744921
This has never happened. Fact.

>>8743309
>It's a big company markets their brand by pretending to be multiple people arguing about the pros and cons of their product thread
Oh boy we haven't had one of these in a few days

>>8743309
Shouldn't this be in /pol/ ? While a fascinating topic to pick through this is more political than food related.

>>8745468
Not OP, but I don't see this as an unpopular opinion.

i believe in some of the latest wiki leaks releases they pointed to monsanto colluding with the FDA to cover up the apparent carcinogenic effects of one of their most popular pesticides

>>8745468
Why would a thread about the treatment of food not be relevant to a board about food?

>>8745599
Because this is a conversation about genetics, morality and overall health.
Food is tertiary to the topic.

>>8743359
>The only difference is the methodology.

Where are all of these people trying to mate salmon with tomatoes?

>>8745617
This. The corporate practices of Monsanto are not food or cooking and this thread has already evolved into a circlejerk.

Take it to >>>/pol/

>>8743442
t. Igor st Grichka

>>8745629
>The corporate practices of Monsanto are not food
>Thread is literally about food

What software do you guys use to monitor forums these days? I used to use board reader years ago, when I was a forum shill.

>>8745638
Nice dodging the argument + resorting to logical fallacies in the first post. Take it to >>>/pol/

>>8745648
Cool sliding bro, totally not an attempt at consensus building.

The only derailment of this thread about food is not coming from myself and those who would seek to discuss this food related issue, but from a strange band of people who seem to think that food related discussions should be moved to a board which concerns itself with political discourse.

I shall leave the reader to make up their own mind as to the motive and actors in this act.

>>8745653
>sliding

Okay, you're def. from /pol/ in the first place. Friendly reminder to /ck/ anons to report and hide the politics thread!

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>>8745658
lol. Keep talking to the other shills bro.

>from /pol/

What in the name of fuck does this even mean?

>>8745667
>I cut off all of the /pol/ threads so that means I'm not from /pol/ XD

Keep getting distracted making pretty snips for me instead of shilling. :)

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Sure thing shill.

How many /ck/ threads do you usually partake in?

Your forum monitoring software can probably tell you.

>>8743319
Exactly
>Nazis progressed rocket technology
>Space is therefore bad

Reuters had an interesting story yesterday about Monsanto's cold war with the RSS* in India. Members of the government are threatening to essentially nationalize Monsanto's seed stocks unless they slash prices.

*Depending on your point of view, the RSS is either a ruling political movement that promotes native Hindu values, or they're the people who killed Gandhi for being too pro-Muslim and go around lynching cattle butchers.

2007 called

>>8745943
What did they want?

>>8743327
You're retarded. Do some research other than some article you read online. There is a huge difference between genetic modification and selective breeding. Maybe ask Monsanto to genetically modify your kids to be smarter so they don't end up like you, Anon.

>>8743364
**Selective Breeding**

>>8743309
>Monsanto is a chemical company that was started in the year 1901

Monsanto GMO foods has saved more Nigger lives than Gandi.

Monsanto's creations are directly responsible for feeding more 3rd world Niggers & Indians than any other corporation in the world.

AS A SJW LIBERAL: THANK YOU MONSANTO!!!

>>8746066
>AS A SJW LIBERAL: THANK YOU MONSANTO!!!

All of us starving African niggers with zero arable land also THANKS MONSANTO for providing GMO foods that actually grow in our waterless shithole.

> monsanto provides seeds that grow in desert with no water
> Niggers hail monsanto as God & Savior
> monsanto can't give away their amazing seeds for free, since they need to pay for R&D & make a a profit

"OMG MONSANTO IS EBIL!!!"
"WE'RE ENTITLED TO FREE FOOD!!!!"

>>8744682
> Also, did they insert genes that prevent seed reuse?

Yes, actually.
You can't just put 10% of your crops aside and use it as seed next year, those plants wont grow properly.

That's just a little part of Monsanto's fuckery.

>>8746085
>> monsanto provides seeds that grow in desert with no water
>> Niggers hail monsanto as God & Savior
>> monsanto can't give away their amazing seeds for free, since they need to pay for R&D & make a a profit

Monsanto has saved more black lives than Martin Luther King, Malcom X, and Nelson Mandella combined.

>>8746169
>Monsanto has saved more black lives than Martin Luther King, Malcom X, and Nelson Mandella combined.

THANK YOU BASED MONSANTO!!!

>>8746156
>You can't just put 10% of your crops aside and use it as seed next year, those plants wont grow properly.

Without Monsanto, those people would be starving since their plants would fucking die in the desert. They would have zero food.

Why do you want more starving or dead Niggers?

>>8746156
>That's just a little part of Monsanto's fuckery.

You call it fuckery, yet the farmers are happy to keep paying for seed every year because the yield from the superior product are so much higher. It's not as if anyone is forcing them to buy monsanto seed; they could do it old-school if they cared to.

>>8746169
>Monsanto has saved more black lives than Martin Luther King, Malcom X, and Nelson Mandella combined.

The funny thing is, this is probably 100% true.

Monsanto's drought resistant crops have probably kept hundreds of millions of Africans fed over the decades.

>>8746182

What people? It doesn't matter if they're in Europe, America or Africa, Monsanto's business is allways the same.
Oh boy, i hope you get paid to write that shit.

>>8746215

Why do you hate starving Africans?

Wow, MIDF is in full swing.

>>8744887
Plants vs Zombies...

IN REAL LIFE. who wins? No-one.

>>8745621
Canada.

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>>8746227
Their PR shills have done an incredible job of brainwashing millennials into thinking that DRM for crops = "science" and if you're not slavishly supportive of vile rent-seeking behavior, you're some kind of anti-vaxxer luddite

We had a thread like this on /g/ a few days ago regarding John Deere tractors. Apparently if you think buying an object gives you the right to repair it without paying $10,000 for an unlock code, you're some kind of leftist nut

I wish I was making this up

>>8746227
This.

I've never seen anything like this on /ck/.

>>8746227
>Wow, MIDF is in full swing.

get out /pol/

> yay! more starving Niggers

back to your containment borards

>>8746239

lol

MONSANTO IS A RIGHT WING NIGGER HATING CORPORATION BENT ON DESTROYING THE WORLD

lol

whatever you say /pol/tards

Bottom line, Monsanto has kept more Africans and 3rd world poverty folks alive than any modern corporation in the world.

And that's a net gain. Period.

>>8746085
It used to just be laying on the ground and hanging out in trees. Yeah, we deserve free food. This is why I plant fruit and veggie seeds everywhere I roam.

>>8746241
>>8746239
Oh yeah and I forgot: "if we don't give a small number of international megacorporations strict control over the food supply, you hate brown people and are literally calling for genocide against poor people"

inb4 "but Monsanto isn't as big as Samsung therefore we should take it up the ass from their PR shills"

>>8746243
>Bottom line, Monsanto has kept more Africans and 3rd world poverty folks alive than any modern corporation in the world.
>And that's a net gain. Period.

Yeah, but everything in the world should be FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>8746243
>Bottom line, Monsanto has kept more Africans and 3rd world poverty folks alive than any modern corporation in the world.

That's not what we're arguing here.

We're saying Monsanto should be giving away their products instead of profiting off of them.

>>8746239
Yeah this is insane. I miss old 4chan, where instead of slavishly licking the boots of those who would own us flesh and soul, we fought for the lulz.

>>8746243
How is that a net gain? It promotes people living on land that is no longer fertile, and instead of moving along to greener pastures, attempting to draw blood from a stone. Overpopulation is the real difficulty here; Monsanto supports overpopulation is all that comes down to. Think ahead, and remember the second law of thermodynamics. I just lost The Game

>>8746252
>I miss old 4chan

me too.

now GTFO /pol/

We get it. You hate niggers. Now back to your fucking containment boards.

>>8746243
> Monsanto has kept more Africans and 3rd world folks in poverty than any modern corporation in the world

There, i fixed it.

>>8746252
>where instead of slavishly licking the boots of those who would own us flesh and soul

He's right you know. Monsanto has probably fed more Blacks and benefited black lives than any black leader in history.

What is it about Monsanto's ability to feed poor starving people that pisses you off so much?

The fact that they make a profit? Or are you just mad they're feeding so many blacks?

>>8746256
>Overpopulation is the real difficulty here

Finally. You get to the point.

Just let those niggers starve and die right?

>>8746261
>implying anyone is going to fall for your incoherent yelling
We get it, if we don't slavishly lick your boss's boots we're racist, anti-science left wing lunatics who want to kill black people

I wonder, after posting this kind of garbage as a full time job, do you start to believe it? Or are you able to distance yourself and find some humor in your situation? I knew a guy who used to review stuff on Amazon for a living and he thought it was pretty funny but your propaganda is pretty emotionally charged and I wonder if it's possible to maintain any sort of sane perspective on your talking points

>>8746267
Overpopulation. If one cannot grow food where one is, one needs to leave. We are nomadic animals. That, and it is the methods they use to feed people, rather than the doing thereof that bothers me. And of course, the profit aspect, which is always leveraged on one of the two people interacting getting more than a thing is worth.

>>8746267
>black people are stupid and need a White Saviour to help them
>somehow, this isn't incredibly racist
>somehow, the people who are skeptical of Monsanto are the racists
I have to hand it to you, those are some impressive mental gymnastics

>>8746280
Nailed it.

>>8746256
>Overpopulation is the real difficulty here; Monsanto supports overpopulation is all that comes down to.

Please. Tell us what you really think about "those people."

>>8746274
Holy shit man, good to see another with a thought process here. It really is like buddyman is getting paid for this, eh? This is nuts. I never used to believe in "shills" but fuck me if this doesn't point to it being an actuality. I'm fuckin flabbergasted

>>8746256
>Monsanto supports overpopulation is all that comes down to

kek. go home /pol/ you're drunk

>>8746295
Those people being the starving or Monsanto?

> its a /pol/ attacks Monsanto for "keeping too many niggers alive" in locations where they "shouldn't be" episode.

>>8746310
You're a goober. Your tactics are blatant and foolish. Come on man at least try? Or am I gonna get a NO U the rest of this thread?

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fucking /pol/ is ruining /ck/

Is it currently possible to identify food which has been produced using genetic alteration or carcinogenic pesticides?

>>8746326
Pol is full of corpratists. This is an anticorpratist argument. Hush now little simpleton. I'm playing with a fool already.

>>8746315
>Your tactics are blatant and foolish.

So far, the anti-monsanto side arguments:

1) Monsanto Seeds cost money.
2) Monsanto Seeds keep blacks alive in deserts where they shouldn't be alive

Yeah. I'm the irrational monsanto shill here.

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>>8746334

>>8746336
>1) Monsanto Seeds are single-use and illegal to re-plant the next season
Ftfy
>2) Monsanto pretends to be looking out for "the stupid blacks who can't look after themselves" but is really just looking for vendor lock-in by exploting an undeveloped market via underhanded propaganda and unethical but technically legal (the best kind of legal!) mechanisms
Ftfy
>3) Monsanto seriously wants us to believe that if anyone dares to use their brain, they're a racist anti-science radical
Not falling for it, but that is your argument

Now keep on spamming KKK images, you really have us convinced you have the moral high ground, shill

>>8746336
1) is true enough. Last I checked, nature was doing fine on her own
2) is a strawman. Deserts are deserted due to the fact that they can't grow food well. As such, it makes little to no sense to live there. It doesn't matter what color of people are living there, deserts are a tragic environment for human habitation.

>>8746352
1) Absolutely nothing wrong with that. They engineered the product. Farmers who don't want superior yields don't buy the seeds, dumbass.

2) holy shit, you've learned alot from /pol/

3) bottom line, monsanto salves black lives. you're just here whining and complaining, being a douche.

Even if your motivation isn't Anti-black, you're coming off extremely ignorant in your arguments.

Are there really this many Monsanto shills or are burgers just this fucking brainwashed on the issue? It's a fucking scam, people. You are worse than the eurofags and their undying belief in man made global warming with this shit.

>>8746362
>3) bottom line, monsanto salves black lives. you're just here whining and complaining, being a douche.

I'm pretty sure the anti monsanto folks argument is "let the blacks back in nature and if they starve, they starve"

Why are the MIDF shills obsessed with /pol/?

Are they on a crossover shilling campaign, or is it just the board most likely to be known to normies?

>>8746362
>3) bottom line, monsanto saves black lives. you're just here whining and complaining, being a douche.

But the other guy said he didn't want to save black lives.

He hates Monsanto for "overpopulation of niggers"

>>8746256
>Monsanto supports overpopulation is all that comes down to.

>>8746336
Monsanto destroys farmers with lawsuits.
Monsanto makes farmers dependent of their seeds and their herbicides.
Monsanto destroys natural bio diversity.
Monsanto puts copyright on fucking plants.

>>8746364
Exactly this. Same as for all humans. Food was prevalent until we decided to start squirting out a billion babies at a time, while keeping old folks alive well past their prime.

>>8746368
>He hates Monsanto for "overpopulation of niggers"

He is not me. That guy is a racist piece of shit.

>>8746368
No I did not. Overpopulation, yes. Color is irrelevant. You were the one bringing race into the issue. It is an obvious red herring.

>>8746371
>Food was prevalent until we decided to start squirting out a billion babies at a time, while keeping old folks alive well past their prime.

Ok.... this is just a whole nother level of /pol/ crazy

>>8746375
Race was never involved until Dr Von Shillington brought it up.

>>8746371

lol All those poor people with no food?

"Let them eat cake."

>>8746382
Anarchoprimitivists arent especially popular on /pol/ as far as I know.

>>8746362
>Farmers who don't want superior yields don't buy the seeds, dumbass.
This isn't America, there is no big gubmint that will just shovel free money down the farmer's throats when the market this year isn't like last year, or there's a crop failure that year, or whatever. These are subsistence farming societies you are pretending to "rescue". You want to call it predatory and say that's ok, it's a dog eat dog world, then I might say you are entitled to your opinion, but pretending it's not predatory is sheer propaganda
>2) holy shit, you've learned alot from /pol/
Completely meaningless ad hominem, see >>8746280, nobody is falling for it and I'd be impressed if you even manage to believe it yourself
>3) bottom line, monsanto salves black lives.
More slimy garbage, fuck off shill
>if you don't fall for my ridiculous mental gymnastics you're ignorant and racist
Not even worth refuting, you'll have to do better

>>8746390
Let them kill the rich and take the cake from their grubby fingers, yes. Or even better, let them learn to grow flour.

>>8746397

Ok... so you hate poor people, rich people, and starving sand niggers equally.

This is as good as reason to hate Monsanto as any I guess.

>>8746396

> trying this hard to prove 'im not racist"

Sure buddy... you've already posted enough

>>8746418
You posted enough a long time ago, shill. Tell your boss he fucked up, you guys need to dial down the ridiculous by a factor of 10 if you hope to even have a chance of being taken seriously

>>8746411
I hate stupid people. So yes, what you said. Those who cannot figure out the overarching reality of our world and subsume themselves in a false world of abstraction do not deserve the benefits of reality.

>>8746182
Africa has extremely fertile land they just export all their crops because of the continental debt. monsanto doesnt feed those living in the third world..theyre a chemical company, NOT A CHARITY!

>>8746865
Almost like globalism is a major problem.

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>>8746865
>Africa has extremely fertile land
Tell that to Mali or Djibouti

"Africa" is not a country, people. The entire United States barely fits into the Sahara Desert. The places where there are devastating famines every 10 years, like the Horn of Africa, are not the areas with high agricultural output. There isn't a system of superhighways or interstate rail like we have in America, getting a buttload of food from a vegetable farm in Swaziland to a bunch of mud huts in Oromia, is not happening without infrastructure projects. Guess who's providing the infrastructure? Ding ding ding! The Chinese, the same people who are getting African food exports.

Globalization helps everyone, Trumpfags #btfo

>>8746898
i said Continental debt...i am d captain now

>>8746914
$100 billion in a country where everything costs 1/10 what it costs here, for critical infrastructure that has multiplier effects on the local economy

Vs. $70 billion to build a wall so that lazy NEETs can't blame the Mexicans anymore when the unemployment officer asks why don't you have a job yet and they have to scramble for another boogyman to blame for their lack of work ethic

I'm siding with the chinks on this one

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>>8743309
>mongoloids still live in irrational fear of GMOs

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>>8746898
>infrastructure projects. Guess who's providing the infrastructure? Ding ding ding! The Chinese

Slave wives are popular as hell in China right now. Especially for oil workers.

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>>8746898
>The Chinese, the same people who are getting African food exports.

We are taking those blacks' Oil, Women, and Food.

Black africans know they have a new master now.

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>>8746933
>I'm siding with the chinks on this one

The world is siding with us. kek

Fun Fact: China now owns more Oil, land, and resources in Africa than ANY of the European colonial powers at ANY time in history.

my sociology textbook has a chapter on environmental and global perspectives. it discusses Monsanto's power over farmers and the "gag contracts" (meaning farmers can not discuss their business with monsanto to others). it also spoke about how unethical it is to patent life. They also discussed the case about Monsanto the giant chemical company vs Percy Schmeiser, a canola farmer in supreme court. very sad. they lobby the government so they can poison the masses. im assuming the people defending monsanto on this thread are hired shills (by monsanto). ts actually quite obvious that's what they are

>>8746956
>>8746960
>>8746963
>he thinks those pictures are going to trigger me
Race mixing is good, breh. We need more of that here in America

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosis

>>8746963
china, racism and interracial couples have nothing to do with this thread.

>>8746426
>I hate stupid people. So yes, what you said. Those who cannot figure out the overarching reality of our world and subsume themselves in a false world of abstraction do not deserve the benefits of reality.

wtf? Monsanto is evil because they keep "stupid" niggers alive?

>>8746997
it's a sock puppet troll by the monsanto shill who wants to promote the idea that any opposition to their abhorrent business practices is racism

do not feed

>>8746982
>Race mixing is good, breh.

True.

But tell that to the angry niggers eye ballin me cuz I'm dating a fine ass black girl.

>>8747010
They're just jealous and can't into progress. You should see what white guys do when a black man holds hands with a white girl. Racial identity in all forms needs to be obliterated, it's for the good of humanity

>>8746997

Like I said, the only anti monsanto arguments are:

1) Monsanto seeds cost money
2) Monsanto seeds keep dirt farmers alive in regions where they should just die off

>>8747010

Asian guy + black girl is like instant trigger for black males.

Guess I'd be pretty insecure & angry too if "beta asians" were stealing all our women.

>>8746012

Selective breeding is another technique to modify the genes of organisms tho.

>>8746997
They're evil because they are increasing entropy in our world instead of working with our world. Fewer people OF ANY RACE is the necessity here. Working the land in SENSIBLE SAFE ways is the necessity here. They are helping to increase population, which is helping us to take more from the world so that we can make more people so and and so forth. Never was race injected into my spiel; that was the doing of others shoving words into my mouth. We need to stick up fertile lands and live WITH our world, not in opposition with it. Trying to "conquer the wild" has left us doomed. I'd prefer to thwart that doom, but the overarching forces at work are doing all that can be done to dig that grave deeper.

I just lost The Game.

>>8747056
I like how this monsanto shill is using intentionally flawed logic in order to make his own position seem reasonable

The reality is increasing stability decreases the birth rate because humans (like other animals) tend to over-reproduce under stress conditions. This increases the likelihood that at least some offspring will live to pass on the genes when there's a high death rate

Unfortunately, what monsanto shills want you to forget is that the instability in undeveloped countries (including food instability, water conflicts, ethnic conflicts, religious conflicts, etc) is the problem that would solve both the starvation issue and the high birth rate that forces local populations to spread their resources too thin

Physically, there is plenty of food to go around. The monsanto shill just wants his boss to get vendor lock-in and charge usurious rent on an agricultural system much like they're doing in the US

This is wrong and is not a solution. The solution is multinational aid products to prevent malnutrition-induced early childhood development problems for famines happening now and in the near future, and general development projects and vaccinations to improve quality of life in the mid to long term

>>8747087
>monsanto shill

The guy is anti monstanto, you illiterate nigger.

>>8747108
No, he's the monsanto shill pretending to be anti-monsanto while screaming nigger nigger nigger in order to give credence to his KKK crapflooding

They think that we haven't read The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies on cryptome.

They probably have more luck shilling on /vg/ and /mu.

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1995: Buy green pepper. Plant all the seeds. Obtain 300lbs of produce.

2017: Buy green pepper. Plant all the seeds. Eat the dirt instead because that shit isn't growing.

It's like you guys want them to own all the produce on earth. It wouldn't be an issue at all if just one blast of wind couldn't ruin an entire farmland's reproductive functions permanently.

Pic related, there are 100 green pepper seeds buried in this pot. I waited 3 weeks and then had to get chinese tomato seeds instead.
This is pretty fucked up because that's a lot of produce I could've eaten or sold.

>>8747190
>cryptome
oldfag detected
that guy still alive? he was a class act compared to today's leakers

>>8746970
That faggot farmer deserves what he got, he damn good and well what he was doing

>>8747087
The solution is sterilization and birth control. It's the current year and still niggers can't feed themselves or care for their young. We are only helping the problem when we try to intervene in Africa. Leave them alone and let them do their own thing.

>>8747453
Europe should send back all of thr doctors and scientists that have came over as refugees these past few years. Their own countries need these astronauts and brain surgeons more than Europe does.

>>8746210
>It's not as if anyone is forcing them to buy monsanto seed; they could do it old-school if they cared to

So I was right >>8746156. The seeds must be so good because they are Roundup resistant that farmers get better yield and don't have to spend as time on them, leading to larger farms etc.

>>8746156
>You can't just put 10% of your crops aside and use it as seed next year, those plants wont grow properly.
Those plants won't grow properly as in normal plants aren't very reusable, or Monsanto seeds are engineered to not be reusable?

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>>8746280
>black people are stupid and need a White Saviour to help them

Stop pulling the race card you dumb faggot. Africa is mostly black and poor, it's an observation. No one said because they are black they are poor.

>>8747503
All 12 of them?

>>8747234
This has nothing to do with GMOs. There are no GMO green peppers that can legally be sold. GMOs are mostly limited to staple crops like wheat and corn. The reason for your green pepper infertility is likely selective breeding that favours size/appearance of fruit over viable seeds.

>>8747549
It's their subhuman IQ that's the problem

>>8747128
You're an idiot. I was the one saying I did not being race into it. So I really needa namefag for this? I'd figured my style of typing was obvious enough. I am very anti Monsanto. Corporations should not control food

>>8747234
Yes. Food used to just LAY ON THE FUCKING GROUND and now ... Now one must pay money for it. Plant your seeds all over and try to spread life.

>>8747632
>I'm anti-corporate and racist, look at me! I'm a typical anti-monsanto! no reasonable person would agree with me, therefore no reasonable person would be anti-monsanto!
Go away shill

>>8747659
Vi estas stulta. Kiam vi komprenas ke mi ne estas racisto, no parolos.

Again, you are the only one to bring up race. As I've said before, it doesn't matter what color you are, don't live in a fucking desert. Food should be controlled by nothing besides the earths capacity to grow it. You are being actively unreasonable and strawmanning me any chance you can. You've brought nothing to the table. Looks like you'll go hungry too.

>>8747754
>the shill tries to squirm its way out of its hole
I only came into this thread about 30 posts ago, shill. Your techniques are far too blatant to be effective. As I already said, tell your boss you failed, and dial back the ridiculousness knob a few turns before trying this campaign around here again.

>>8747809
Seriously? I was the one calling Monsanto shills out earlier in the thread. I just have no time for fools who don't understand the laws of thermodynamics. If a place has low energy, it COSTS ENERGY to pump it back in, netting a total loss of energy. We're on a timeline and personally I don't think we should be pushing the END ALL HUMANITY button faster than need be. To farm in a place where the land is infertile drains an ungodly sum of resources that can be used more efficiently elsewhere. This is also the problem I have 28th large corporations; they are inefficient and in being so they drain resources more quickly. Think about it. Entropy always wins, but we can delay the inevitable as long as we can. To do so we need to reduce consumption. How? Reduce the amount of people first. Second, remove globalism. Third, go local instead of using more pesticides and more gmos. Grow what is native to your area, learn the land. Don't import shit from other countries to be cash crops. Look how well that did Australia. Use your brain, kid.

>>8747840
>Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

>>8746960
>We are taking those blacks' Oil, Women, and Food.
>Black africans know they have a new master now.

bbuuutt...butt... Monsanto is EBIL!!!

>>8747859
This isn't "topic sliding" they actively make poison and produce plants only to be immune to that poison. As such, they cause damage to the earth while producing short term gains. Those short term gains lead to overpopulation and farming in inefficient areas, which then causes the leec-company to need to produce plants that grow in inefficient areas, creating a viscious cycle. Do you not see that, or are you just simply going to play with your strawman for the remainder of the time this thread is up?

>>8747869
They are both evil. Is this unobvious?

>>8747453
>The solution is sterilization and birth control.

Would you say, that this is your, final solution?

>>8747876
>my huge diatribe about the first law of thermodynamics was TOTALLY NOT TOPIC DULATION GUISE
Ok
>but let me just throw in a weird trumptard rant about globalization
Yeah, no

>>8747869

I don't get this. The chinks who are openly raping africa get a free pass all wile Monsanto is taking shit for actually feeding the African niggers and keeping them alive.

lol

Liberal logic. Same as feminists defending muslims.

>>8747898
>race mixing is rape
>all countries must build wall
Trumptard logic

>>8747892
Fucking think about what the core of this topic is: Monsanto is evil due to their products. Their products do what? Create more food at the cost of energy in places where food would not normally grow. In doing so, what do they do? Raise population and the consumption of resources. What does the consumption of resources do? Decrease the amount of energy that can be used in the future. Its a temporary gain v overall loss thing.

Also, fuck trump I'm an anarchist, not a bootlicker.

>>8747898
Again, BOTH ARE EVIL, not just one.

>>8747913
>I'm an anarchist
Yes, we get it. You picked a random, ridiculous ideology out of a hat. Good job shill, you sure make a compelling false dichotomy :^)
>>8747921
No, just one

>>8747898
>The chinks who are openly raping africa get a free pass all wile Monsanto is taking shit for actually feeding the African niggers and keeping them alive.

Liberals are too scared to take on the Chinese. Much easier for them to focus on Monsanto, who's actually doing some good for the Africans.

>>8747927
...wow, yeah okay shill identified. I'm genuinely astonished that this place has gotten this bad. Fuck. Used to not be pounding head against brick walls. At least before I'd shatter some glass and let the light in.

Theyre BOTH awful.

>>8747898
>Liberal logic. Same as feminists defending muslims.

this. liberals can put on some pretty big blinders when they want to.

>>8747943
>>8747898
samefag, in during ms paint and "totally not samefag guise!"

>>8747659
>>8747128
>>8747809
>>8747859
>>8747892
>>8747927
>0.60 has been deposited into your Shareblue account. Thanks for helping Make Racists Afraid Again!

>>8743327
>t. Neil deGrasse Tyson

>>8747943
>this. liberals can put on some pretty big blinders when they want to.

It's like they just conveniently ignore 90% of the good a company does just so they can complain about the 10% of the bad.

>>8747953

dude, you have, like 20 posts in this thread. change your IP at least.

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>>8747989
I have 5 posts in the thread, try again

>>8748005
>I have 5 posts in the thread,

nigger, I can see your IP. wtf are you even trying to lie?

>>8748021
you can't see IP's, reddit

>>8748021
>I'm L33T hAxz0r

Fuck off

>>8743309
>There was a mass suicide among farmers in India over a ten year span that started in 2005 simply because they, as poor, 3rd world farmers, could not meet Monsanto’s requirements and fell into financial ruin!

You discredit yourself when you try to pass off a complete myth as fact.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-gmo-mass-suicides-are-a-myth-1565342067

>>8743309
>There was a mass suicide among farmers in India over a ten year span that started in 2005 simply because they, as poor, 3rd world farmers, could not meet Monsanto’s requirements and fell into financial ruin!

Snopes also call bullshit on this one.

>>8748084
>>There was a mass suicide among farmers in India over a ten year span that started in 2005 simply because they, as poor, 3rd world farmers, could not meet Monsanto’s requirements and fell into financial ruin!

OOPS, FACTS!

http://www.economist.com/blogs/feastandfamine/2014/03/gm-crops-indian-farmers-and-suicide

>>8743309
>There was a mass suicide among farmers in India over a ten year span that started in 2005 simply because they, as poor, 3rd world farmers, could not meet Monsanto’s requirements and fell into financial ruin! The farmers that produce food don’t even have enough to eat themselves- this is so sad!


"this is so sad!" lol

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2008/nov/05/gmcrops-india

Indian farmer suicides not GM related, says study

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0C4_88ub_M

Required watching

>>8743364
A miserable pile of secrets. HAVE AT THEE!!!

>>8743364
Selective breeding
kys

>>8746182
Found the Monsanto pr rep

>>8747526
Will not reproduce. Modern horticulture is pretty much past chimera tech and well into "nurgle keeping the elven god of cure in a bird cage to test new diseases on her" territory

>>8743309
They also sponsored that shrinking atom ride with Disney.

>now i become smaller and smaller

>>8747041
A square is a rectangle, that doesn't mean rectangles are squares

>>8749254
I understood this reference

>>8749224

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>>8748200
this, african culture is shit for development

>>8748200
How do you frustrate a Chinese man?

>Make him work with Africans