>wins literally every American dairy award for decades in

>>8369889
Vermont has baller candy stores though.

>>8369894
>candy
Enjoy underage ban

>>8369889
>and does it better than the places of origin

this is what corn syrup enriched americans actually believe

Pros
>Hunting
>dairy
>no sales taxes
>a man can live off the land, selling firewood, mushrooms, meat and fish
> crabbing and shellfish

Cons
>portland

I think we got a shot at the top 5 list, at least.

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>>8369912
Fuck forgot pic

All those arguments are true about beer too

"best stayte in da youn-yin, don'tcha knowwwww"

>tfw you will never be a white flyover

close OP! but the best state is to the left of you my man

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>>8369912

>cons
>portland

>>8369912
Portland is the only thing that keeps your shithole of a state out of fly-over tier.

>>8371067

This.

Oregon is a nice state, but there's very few places I'd actually want to live outside of Portland. Eastern OR is pretty much hicksville.

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>>8369889
>better than Vermont
please anon, you're embarrassing yourself

>>8369904
>europe still makes good food

this is what stuck up yuropoors actually believe

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sorry fampai but charleston is probably the best food city in the US and anyone who says otherwise is a jew york faggot or a west coast avacado sucking hipster

>>8371144

>anyone who disagrees with me must come from somewhere with an actual food scene

Okay.

>>8371144
it is good and underrated but not the best, not nearly big enough to have the variety of international cuisines like bigger cities.

>>8371067
Then I guess I'll settle for being a flyover.
Portland is nothing but literal garbage steaming in a shit stew of Somalians and faggots. Their only popular food is a result of "lol marijuana".
I'm looking at you, voodoo donuts. It's hipster garbage.

>>8371192

>their only popular food
>voodoo donuts

Oh, so you've never actually been to Portland.

>>8371208
Lived there for 3 years.
Beaverton, to be more precise.

It's a shit hole.

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>>8371213

>beaverton
>portland

>>8371213
Beaverton, in fact all of Washington County, is an absolute shithole devoid of any kind of culture, civil community, or even urban planning. It is a suburban hellscape crafted willy-nilly out of once productive farmland to accommodate the throngs of Californian refugees that descended upon Oregon like locusts once they had turned their own state into a shitshow and wanted to get away from the Mexicans.

>>8369889
As a Northern Illinoisan who grew up within 15 minutes of the Wisconsin border, I have to level with you: Wisconsin is p. cool, but Vermont is superior in most respects. Not as many indoor water parks, but the grub is generally better, and they have more than one food group to be proud of.

>>8371224
Beaverton is a short bus ride away from downtown portland. It is a part of portland, whether you like it or not. You're trying way too hard to defend a shitty place.

shitty roads though

That's great and all but I'm from California.

/thread

>>8371049
Pffffftt HAHAHA

>>8371356
ey ese

>>8371310

>short bus ride away from downtown portland
>part of portland

You could make the same argument about New Jersey in relationship to NYC and you'd be just as wrong.

Beaverton is tract houses, conservative soccer moms, and chain restaurants in strip malls. The cultures are diametrically opposed.

t. went to college in Portland and have a cousin raising her family in Beaverton.

>>8371356
I used to live in california. It's garbage, man. Do yourself a favor and move anywhere else, and you'll see what I mean. you're paying way too much, and the only redeeming quality is the weather. The people are horrible, and the liberal bullshit that goes on there is suffocating, and this is coming from a man who voted for Obama.
Twice.

>>8371398
>short bus ride to DOWNTOWN portland
You don't know anything about city limits or towns. The part of beaverton I lived in was right on the edge of downtown portland. It was considered beaverton by way of zip code only. The fact that you think a minor discrepancy like that would mean that I have no idea about the shittiness of portland is laughable.

>>8371535

>do yourself a favor and move anywhere else, and you'll see what I mean

Different anon here. I've spent the past 15 years living pretty much all over the country (aside from the South, but I don't need to live in a shithole to know I don't want to live in a shithole), and just moved to California for the first time for more than a month. I always said I don't really like the people (Northern California is definitely better), which is still kind of true, but I don't really like the people anywhere, and I honestly like California more than pretty much anywhere else I've lived, and will probably be staying here.

>liberal bullshit

What exactly are you even talking about? Calling it suffocating sounds like a Texan's exaggerated, Fox News, completely made up image of what things are really like based on some random YT video of some random undergrad SJW protesting something ridiculous at UC Berkeley.

>>8371557
I've been harassed by police and border patrol at checkpoints (not mexican checkpoints, but random checkpoints in the US) more than I care to count for having a concealed weapons permit.

Once at dennys I was criticized by a waitress for using the term "waitress". I wasn't even speaking to her or about her. Finally, after listening to her babble, I told her I would refer to her as "cunt" for the remainder of my visit, and I did. No manager was called, and no tip was left.

And the fucking people. Goddamned hippie vegan bullshit clogging my Facebook feed. Old high school girlfriends posting nonstop videos of them protesting for the meme of the day.

>>8371650

>waaah, people want to check that i actually have a permit for the gun i carry around with me for no reason
>i was being a dick to a waitress and she got mad at me
>i'm facebook friends with some annoying girl
>i'm on facebook to begin with

Yeah, sounds like it's California's fault and has nothing to do with you in particular...

just went to Superior a few minutes ago
it's nice that they have a supercenter but it's such a depressing town =(

>>8371672
cuck

>>8371685
Wow you sure showed him.

>>8371672
It had nothing to do with "checking to see if I had a permit".
They detained me and asked me why, told me I didn't need it,when I did, and continuously hassled and scolded me.

As for the waitress, I was talking to my son, and told him that his mother was a waitress when I met her in high school. That's when our waitress came up and said that they prefer to be called "servers", and that I was disrespectful.
I sure disrespected the fuck out of her after that, I assure you.

As for facebook, you got me. I like keeping in touch with family and old friends, and sometimes I accept requests from people I shouldnt associate with. But facebook, if nothing else, shows you the true intent and feelings of people. There's a whole fucking Facebook stereotype of "creepy political people flooding propaganda".

I was born and raised in california, and Im telling you it's a complete shithole.

Also, ellipsis' are for children. Type like a fucking adult.

>>8371067
what type of person cares about being "fly over"

>>8371356
terrible place

>>8371774

It sounds like you were just stereotyped for whatever reason. Iv'e been pulled over literally every time I've driven through Ohio on made-up reasons just for having California plates. One time my entire care was packed full of shit because I was moving to the East Coast for school. They asked if they could search my car and when I said no they put me in the back of the cop car for no reason (my first and only time), made me wait for a drug dog, and then claim the dog smelled drugs (which it didn't). Then they proceeded to empty all my shit on the side of the road, not finding anything but prescription medicine, with the prescriptions, and leave me to repack my car (which I spent two days meticulously packing in my garage to make everything fit).

It's just fuckwad cops stereotyping people they don't like. They saw a single guy in a hatch back with CA plates and assumed I Must be transporting drugs, so despite all evidence to the contrary they ended up busting my balls anyway just for wasting their time or whatever.

It sounds like CA border cops and female servers probably deal with assholes like you all the time. And it's "ellipses".

>>8371774
>Also, ellipsis' are for children. Type like a fucking adult.

Yeah, only children use full grammar and language tools, ignorance and simplicity is totally adult, guys!

>>8371955
No faggot, there was no reason for one.
Finish your thought or fuck off.

>>8371955
Ellipsis' are stupid

Sorry, sort of.....

>>8371774
So you continually referred to a young woman as a cunt, in the presence of a child, whilst carrying a gun.

You sound cool.

>>8369889
>American dairy award

Isnt that a bit like winning the 'cleanest street in India' award?

>>8372310
kek

>>8371774
>can't take minor correction without calling the waitress "cunt" in front of his child
>cries like an infant because the police were doing their job by asking why someone is going back and forth across the border with a weapon

I dont think its the guy using ellipses that's acting like child here.

>>8372361
Reread the original post.

Sorry, heres a correction:

>cries like an infant because the police were mean to him at a checkpoint in a state with high levels of illegal immigration and gun violence

>>8371144
Charlestonian here, ur full of shit. Barring a few good examples all our food is fucking soulfood shrimpn grits meme shit or overpriced mediocre garbage on king street. Don't even get me started on the complete lack of good chinese food around here.

>>8369889
>>wins literally every American dairy award for decades in a row
>>has the most variety out of any state
>>better than Vermont in every way

Aiming pretty low there I see

>>8372373
>wanting chinks in your city

Nah I'll pass

>>8371557
>(aside from the South, but I don't need to live in a shithole to know I don't want to live in a shithole)

Pls tell your friends to stop moving here as well thx

>>8371774
Sounds a lot like the same entitled perpetually offended and holier than thou bullshit that I despise Californians for. I couldn't stand living there. I havnt ever met a Californian I actually liked.

>>8372485
Rather a keep to themselves chink than a muzzie or illegal 2bhm8

>it's a midwest flyover shithole thinks it's relevant episode again

Please keep flying over. Don't want you here.

>>8372301
Now that you put it that way, that dude sounds like a pretty cool guy. I'd hang out with him.

Fuck Californians though. Stay the hell out of best state.

>>8371774
I believe you. People in this site are even cuntier because it makes them feel badass or something

Hey at least Wisconsinites like me are smart enough not to get baited by anons and shit up a thread about the best flyover.

Wisconsin has the best craft beer 'scene' too.

I went to Great Taste of the Midwest this year and it was fucking awesome.

>>8372492

Sorry, I only know people getting the fuck out of that part of the country. Literally never heard of anyone from the West Coast moving to the South, and I assume it's about as rare as an American joining Al-Qaeda.

oy gevalt i sure love the cheese

The soon to be completed saputo blue cheese factory in almena will be the largest producer in the world.

I like the accent that comes with eating the cheese

>>8369889
Not to mention fantastic trout fishing, monster bucks, loads of turkeys & pheasant, morels and chanterelles and chicken of the woods, ginseng and ginger and great hiking, biking, kayaking. And beer. And brats.

>>8371774
>calinigger
Figured

You calitards you stay in your cali shitland.

>>8372832
Remind me who flies over us?

Maybe MN but that's it.

Also spotted cow.

>>8369912
Portland is great. It's the nexus of Oregon's yupies, hippies, hipsters, rednecks and white trash. It's fun to watch them interact.

I bet you're an eastern Oregon sand person.

>>8371398
Beaverton is basically a suburb of Portland. It's a neighborhood, a million used car lots and an asian grocer.

>>8371310
>he thinks beaverton is part of glorious portland

Have fun trying to keep your snapback with the sticker on while you fistfight your cousin