People who boil crustaceans alive should be tied in a chair and

The cruelty adds flavor.

>>8107293
>he thinks crustaceans are sentient

They die immediately you big baby.

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Agreed.

>>8107300
Look at this faggot.

>>8107293
actually I usually steam them alive but sometimes I rip the tail off and slice it in half while they're still kicking if it's getting grilled

They're large bugs, do you feel pity or empathy towards cockroaches?

>>8107312
Those edges, bro. You want to watch you don't cut yourself.

>caring this much about well being of sea cockroaches

I know a vegan who owns a flyswatter and have known several others who routinely use bottle traps for killing fruitflies.
Why are these insects, which cause no harm to humans and are not useful as food, okay to kill while crustaceans, which can be downright delicious and are capable of serious harm to people, are not?

>>8107315
who's being edgy? I'm prepping food, you're talking about tying me to a chair and throwing me in the ocean over the feelings of a crustacean

So you guys EAT cockaroaches of the sea?

I can see ppl eating chicken of the sea, but cockaroaches!

>>8107338
wtf is chicken of the sea

>>8107338
Yes faggot now please take your fresh new "sea insects" meme back to you know where. You retarded children let the internet dictate your diet.

>>8107340

...duh

It says it right on the can.

Tuna

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>>8107340
seagulls

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>>8107293
crabs literally do not give a shit about their prey, why should we care about them?

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>>8107340

>>8107353
You would reduce yourself to the level of a crab?

You savage.

>>8107293
>caring about the sea roaches
>eating the cockroaches of the sea
>caring about the feelings of water roaches
shiggydiggy

>>8107351
those are rats of the sea

>>8107338
Go home, Jacob.

I feel bad killing anything.

So i usually silently tell them that i am sorry and make sure i season and cook them to the best of my abilities so they taste as delicious as possible.

>>8107309
>hurr durr faggot

You PETA activists are more inclined to suck dick than anyone else here.

Where I live in Oregon, we go grab fishing all the time. I usually boil the ones we catch all together in one big pot.
We don't even give them the dignity of a solitary death.

Suck my flaccid dick OP.

>>8107325
>capable of serious harm to people
wut

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>not killing your crustaceans this way

So how do you suggest that we kill them, OP?

>>8107841
>t. little alt-right boy
Pepe is considered a racist symbol because of you

>>8107841
huh?

>cooking stuff alive is a crime which should be punished by getting eaten alive
not giving a good example there now

1) they don't properly feel pain nor are they sentient
2) the scream is gases escaping

>>8107829
Lobsters are incredibly dangerous.
https://youtu.be/AEGK4goaUZ0

>try to do the quick kill method where you stick a knife into its head
>it starts violently jerking around and falls onto the floor with white stuff coming out of its head
Fuck that, they get cooked alive

If tuna is the chicken of the sea, what is the beef of the sea? What about lamb?

Crabs don't eat MEAT YOU FUCKS

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>Eating fancy ocean roaches
>ever

>>8107293
you're right OP
we should kill them first like this fellow over here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYI3eTq97mw

>>8107850
...and?

>>8107959
scallops is the beef of the sea

>>8107293
I steam them alive. It takes them 5 to die.

>>8107825
Everything dies alone anon.

>>8107340

jessica simpson is that u?

>>8107965
Implying I wouldn't even eat a land roach if it were prepared properly.

They don't have no brains so nothing to recognise pain or emotion with. They are practically ambulatory vegetables.

>>8107844
That seems like a good way to lose all the crab's juices when boiling it.

>>8110244
>They don't have no brains
So they do have brains?

I think their brain is scattered in teh body and not all in one place so you cant deal a killing blow as clear as with mammals. Boiling it alive probably not best way still, but i never killed any animal to eat it so i dont have much rights to talk about it

>>8107293
they literally can't feel it

>>8110261
Nah they ain't got any brains

I know them out in the freezer or fridge for an hour before cooking. I hear it makes them go sleepy

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I kill large game animals for sport and trophy. Why would I give a damn about mud bugs?

>>8107860
they feel pain and their sentience is debatable, but NOT yours to decide. atm more hints are found for them being sentient then the opposite.

>>8110303
wrong, that they feel pain is proven, sentincen is what is not totally sure (so give them the benefit of the doubt)

>>8110905
yeah you shouldn't. You already proof that your level of compassion is below the civilized standard one should aim for.

Kill with knife or hatchet in a single stroke, kills instantly, clean, then boil. Never boiled any alive.

>>8107293
The most cruelty-free way to kill them is boiling. You can't kill them easily with a knife, they can literally be stabbed through the skull and not die. When they are submerged in boiling water their brain explodes very quickly killing them instantly. Also if they die prematurely within minutes the flesh will lose texture and flavor as rigor mortis sets in.

boiling alive is the most humane method

>>8111285
Counting the number of game I've bagged in my 33 years of hunting, I believe I have excellent aim.

>>8111287
Louisiana would kick you out of the state.

People who kill plants for food should just die desu

>>8107293
Hey those fuckers would do the same to us!

>>8107819
>not recognizing king sperg

you should probably leave this site

>>8107325
>vegans
>logic
Was this one of those rhetorical questions?

Their nervouse systems arent complex enough for pain. Its nothing more than a negative stimulus for them

>>8111525
Like a bad smell or something ugly.

>>8107293
I could stomp on them with cleats, but I'm eating alone tonight.

Does this trigger you, OP?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFelfDbkzm4

I agree, crustaceans feel pain.

But I don't give a fuck because I'm not a pussy ass faggot.

>>8107964
That's why I catch them with chicken legs . . .

>>8107315
You do know that cutting a lobster in half while it's still kicking is a very legit way to prepare it, right?

>>8111538
I got this reference.

>>8107293

crustaceans don't have souls theyre like dogs

I used to chill my crabs before boiling them. puts them to sleep but I guess they might be able to still feel the pain. I don't know. I kind of quit crab fishing since then. I guess I grew more of a conscience.

>>8112567
Congratulations too bad nobody gives a shit

>>8112897
Salty, limp-wristed pussy.

Whatever we do to crustaceans before we cook them is still a hell of a lot more "humane" than what would happen to them in nature.

>>8113157
This. People forget just how savage Mother Nature can be.

lobsters decay a HELL of a lot faster than other animals and it's basically required that you get them fresh if you want them to be worth a shit
whether you kill them before you boil them or kill them by boiling them literally doesn't matter if you're going to eat it anyway
Why do have sympathy for something you're going to be shitting out the very next day? Christ

>>8113326
Damn nature, you scary

>>8107819
Trump has a soul, why don't you buddy?

>Donald Trump once argued against fishing: 'I believe it's painful for the fish'

>>8107964

I can literally catch hundreds of crabs with a pack of bacon and string

>>8111525

>negative stimulus

Isn't that exactly what pain is.

>>8107461

this

anything else is some edgy bullshit

>>8110905

when you kill game they usually die pretty fast though, right?

you don't actually make them suffer on purpose?

>Why would I give a damn about mud bugs?

you should give a damn either way, because the release of adrenalin makes any animal taste more acidic than it should.

if you don't give a shit about taste, then fuck off.

i live in a landlocked country and never had lobster in my life

These are the proven facts:

Crustaceans react to pain.

Crustaceans are not stunned or paralyzed by the heat. They wriggle their tail, which is both an escape mechanism and a reaction to pain (and negative stimuli in general).

Icing crustaceans has been scientifically proven to reduce the time they suffer. Many people itt have pointed this out.

Reducing the time of suffering means less adrenaline in your meat, which in turn means a better tasting lobster.

To conclude, if you don't ice your lobsters and crabs you're a fag and you're eating lower grade meat for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

There are better methods, like this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/recipes/4581872/A-humane-way-to-cook-lobster.html

But it is clearly not worth an investment unless you run a restaurant.

Also refer to this if you have questions about the icing:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2009/07/how-to-kill-a-lobster-humanely/21339/

>>8113542
who gives a fuck

>>8113505
Pain is a negative stimulus, as is the smell of shit to most people or the taste of rotting food

>muh ethics

>>8113542
lobsters don't have adrenaline

>>8113542
Do lobsters even have a system that produces adrenaline? I find line of logic reasonable but it's pointless if the flavor remains the same.

>>8113853
>Do lobsters even have a system that produces adrenaline?

Nope. They lack endocrine glands entirely.

>>8111287
And your bug meat will turn out bland and tasteless. You're the reason why people hate seafood.

>>8113532
Pretty sure bugs and crustaceans don't have adrenal glands.

>>8113908
Yeah but vegans are retarded

>>8113542
So basically, the electrocution is just sticking a live 120v wire on one end of a tank and the neutral wire on the other, and letting it shock them for 5 seconds? You can make that out of an extension cord and a switch, this thing better not be more than 50 dollars.

>>8113954
>read link in link

Wtf. 2000 british pounds? What the hell? IT'S JUST A TANK, SALTWATER, A LIVE WIRE AND A SWITCH. Oh man, what stupid hippy dippy asshole will buy this shit and believe it?

This whole thread is stupid, even plants react to "negative stimuli". Cut off a leaf? Most plants will seal off the wound, some plants retract entirely, others release poison. Have too much heat in an area? They grow away from them. And the meat being sweeter from humane killing? Probably a female, not lack of adrenaline, which crustaceans do not produce.

>>8113963
>what stupid hippy dippy asshole will buy this shit and believe it?
hey, if there´s profit to be made, somebody will gladly take those idiots money

>>8110244

The hell.

The guy knows the word 'ambulatory' but he can't handle grammar.

>>8114007
Dammit, you're right. I should make a "travel" version and sell it for half the price.

>>8113542
>pain
No they react to negative stimuli
>adrenaline
Youre full of shit
>>8113505
Pain is a very specific reaction to a very specific negative stimuli
Did your doctor ever hit your knee and it kicked on its own? Thats an involuntary reaction to stimuli. Crustacians aren't smart enough to differentiate between voluntary and involuntary. They just have a reaction to negative stimuli, simply enough.
Pain has an involuntary aspect, but also a voluntary one too. You can become habituated to pain too. You can train yourself to ignore it. Pain also has a lasting affect because of the damage to nerves.
The most important effect is the psychological reaction to pain. Severe pain can induce depression, anxiety, ptsd, and or just strong negative emotions. Crustaciancs aren't smart enough for that.
There is no evidence to suggest that there is any pain in crustacians more than just a reaction to negative stimuli. Their brains are simply way too small.
People don't really get cognition with other animals well. You can literally write a computer program to simulate a virtual goldfish that is more complex than the goldfish itself. There is no consciousness or higher thought for these animals.

>>8107955
I'm laughing just thinking about this.

>>8111271
>they feel pain and their sentience is debatable, but NOT yours to decide
As the superior life form, it kind of is.

>>8113977
>And the meat being sweeter from humane killing?
>Probably a female, not lack of adrenaline, which crustaceans do not produce.
>Probably a female
>which crustaceans do not produce.

Uh. What? I assume you meant to say meat is sweeter tasting from female animals and has nothing to do with adrenaline. Then you loosely tied the adrenaline comment to crustacean and their lack there of.

Also, [citation needed] on the female meat is sweeter statement.

>>8107333
The lobster is being edgy, with its shell bits. He was just looking out for your safety.

>>8114799
>adrenaline, which crustaceans do not produce
>reading comprehension

>>8114799
Man, you are stupid.

Or, and I'm hoping this is, English isn't your first language.

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>>8107844

>>8113547
the karma gods.

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>>8107844
>not killing your crustaceans this way

>>8107293
that's why I prefer a more humane treatment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_cZlvc8f6o

>>8113542
>Reducing the time of suffering means less adrenaline in your meat, which in turn means a better tasting lobster.

>To conclude, if you don't ice your lobsters and crabs you're a fag and you're eating lower grade meat for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

Even if this criminally insane drivel were true, taste is SUBJECTIVE, R-tard. Adrnenaline-rich meat may taste foul to you but be ambrosia to me.

basically, just go kill yourself already.

>>8116291
>clearly cooked crab

crab was dead long before the hammer

Lobsters do not have brains, they do not feel pain.

Neither do jellyfish.

>>8111292
Kek, thank you for this.

>>8114296
Thanks for reminding me of this, anon. I've been wondering how to put it.

>>8107965
They're more like lice if you want to go down that whole route

>>8107293

But it'll have that fresh taste

>>8107293
Mainefag reporting in. You're an idiot.

>this tard probably believes that the screaming sound is the lobsters screaming in pain

>>8107293
>Crustaceans have rights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmpH19HSLrs

>>8107829
You can lose fingers to crabs

>>8119689
Those fuckers can really hurt you. I had a stone crab latch onto my finger and he wouldn't let go.

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animals feel pain.

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>>8110125

How would you cook a Texas Tree Roach?

>>8110254
Thats blue soft shell crab. You get them alive so the shell doesnt have a chance to harden. You deep fry this kind of crab.

>>8110254
>>8119715
To further that, when preparing them, you first cut off its face, its dick and then its gills.

>>8107369
> you savage

A compliment? For me? I'm blushing.

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you know what if karma does exist. wouldn't you all feel silly boiling animals alive just so you could eat them?

Nerds trying to apply ethical implications to cockroaches of the sea should be flogged for stupidity.

>>8119712
Boil quickly, alive. 60 seconds in a rolling boil. Pull them out, bust open chest cavity, use scraping tools to remove little bits of meat, gather meat in a bowl. Rinse. Put the shells In a new, clean pot of boiling water. Salt well. Dump in shells and Cajun seasoning blend. Boil for 5 min. Push through sieve. You have roach stock now. Dump meat in broth. Let sit until it cools down a little bit. Drain and serve with a pan sauce over some sort of small antipasta or couscous.

>>8114022
Some people use double negatives on purpose, as part of their dialect or to infer a certain tone or cadence in their writing. Of course, since language is always changing, and there's no legal requirement to abide by grammatical rules on he Internet, he's using proper grammar. You're just not using proper "shut the fuck up about grammer" skills.

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>Live in Florida.
>Go out and catch the legal limit of crabs (10 gallons) with pic related.
>Freeze them all to death.
>Eat crab for days.

Cooking all of these fuckers is a chore, though.

>>8107293
I like to put them in a vice and slowly crush them to death before boiling

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>>8110254

>not steaming shellfish

>>8107293
TORTURE IS WRONG, so we should torture sentients beings who practice torture on non sentient beings
No, wait...

I put them in the freezer until they're unconscious then put a knife in their brain.

(this is for lobsters - I don't crab)