>The CDC defines heavy drinking as 15 or more drinks per week

>>8051275
/AA/ is that way ==============> you lush

>>8051275

Drinking is supposed to be a social activity not self-administered anesthesia due to one's inability to cope with the stress and demands of life.

My mother is an alcoholic. She cannot cope with the most basic shit.

>Forget to mail a birthday card--get shitfaced.
>Forget to buy a vital ingredient for recipe at the store--get shitfaced.
>Wake up hungover--get shitfaced.

The only advice I can give alcoholics who are unable to get sober is to never have children so that their misery, emptiness, and utter contempt for life is contained within themselves.

>>8051295
I drink basically 2 40ozs of steel reserve a night, and still function fine, hit the gym 5 days a week, work and go to school, never in trouble with the law etc... and im 27 years old.

>>8051275
No that actually is the clinical definition of heavy drinking and leads to many health problems long term.

>>8051300

>It's a "But I'm a high-functioning alcoholic" episode

Don't call me for bail when you drive over a neighbor's kid.

>>8051310
I wont, never have the urge to go out when i drink, when i drink i chill in my room, play vidya listen to music watch tv etc...

>>8051300
So you're not an alcoholic in the sense that it hasn't yet affected your social life.
However your drinking is already affecting your health.

>>8051275
Yes, that's the amount needed to fuck you up medically. Doesn't matter if you can hold your liquor or not

>>8051317
If your life is still fine you should seriously consider stopping now. Stopping with a good life around you is a lot easier.

You can't seriously think you can keep it up for ever and be fine?

>>8051333
I know many people who drink more then that, and professionals who are retired in there 70's and lived a good life. Sure they might die before 82 or whatever but that seems fine to me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eO6OaVnbqaY

>>8051339
Been doing this for almost 9 years now every night.

>>8051300
2x7=14 so you're just under the heavy drinking limit

>>8051275
is it the same number for men and women?

>>8051345

>2 x 40oz drinks x 7 is just under the prescribed limit

4chan intellectuals

>4chan
>intellectuals

>>8051340
1. Maybe they didn't actually drink as much as you think
2. There will always be outliers. People who are lucky with their genetics. And we tend to remember them. That's why everyone has that one great aunt who smoked like a chimney and lived to be 95. Because we don't remember the 15 other people we know who died at 68 who probably could have lived to 85 if they hadn't smoked.

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>>8051359

>>8051344
And I've never worked out in my life and I haven't had a single problem caused by that yet. I'm sure that means lack of physical exercise is totes fine, right?

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>>8051333
it don't matter

none of it matters

drink as much as you want

>>8051368

>fast forward 25 more years of sustained regimen

Cirrhosis! But I barely even drink! Why is this happening to me?

>>8051368
I workout 5 days a week, plus play ice hockey 2 nights a week.

>>8051359
but I enjoy drinking, life is too short. I could stop drinking, eat nothing but a strict diet, and still end up ran over by a car or some other accident. Point being as long as its not effecting me in the short term ill keep doing it. I dont think id want to live over 75 honestly

>>8051275
Let me translate that a bit for you.

According to medical guidelines the average male maximum safe intake of alcohol on a daily basis is two "drinks". For females the average is one "drink" daily. This average is based on the ability of human livers to process alcohol well enough to not suffer any permanent damage. Therefore, for a male subject, on average a person consuming 14 "drinks" per week is ideally having two per day and thus is a moderate drinker, or drinking in moderation. This is not actually going to apply to every single person accurately, as variation in human subjects would mean some would only be able to have one "drink" a day without harming their health while others could have three and still not be harmed. But the majority aligns to the averages.

15/week by default means you're having at least 3 "drinks" a day on at least one day. Which is in excess of moderate and thus heavy by medical standards.

Don't get too beat up over it.

>>8051378
Kay. That doesn't help you against the effects of alcohol though. It's like saying "Broken arm? But I've always paid my taxes!"
>>8051383
So you're saying you'd literally rather die than stop drinking. You're an alcoholic.

>>8051383
>life is too short but i want to specifically do things that make it even shorter

>>8051390

>and when the end does come I want to be in as much pain as humanly possible, aka organ failure, that not even the strongest narcotics can abate

>>8051390
literally anything can make it shorter, too much red meat, too much a,b,c to not make it sorter you would almost have to be lucky, and live perfect

>>8051399
>to not make it sorter you would almost have to be lucky, and live perfect
Jim Fixx, a cardio exercise icon, dropped dead of a heart attack while jogging and was the absolute image of physical health and healthy living.

He barely beat 50.

Living perfect offers a personal impact not a statistical guarantee.

>>8051410
My point exactly, why not enjoy things? Im not saying be fully joey and be obese but if you can drink and still stay in shape why not

>>8051275
2 40s of malt liquor every night is most certainly not healthy. Have you had blood tests recently?

>military
>huge brief about how more than two drinks a night is indicative of a problem
>and only one an hour
>kek

>>8051345
2×40oz=80 oz
80oz×9%alc =720oz%alc
720oz%alc/5%alc=144oz for a regular beer
144oz/12oz= 12 standard drinks.


They are both higher in alc content and larger. I gave some conservative estimates so its probably a bit lower but still

>>8051410
Likewise, you could go into combat without a helmet and possibly be entirely fine because maybe you're lucky and nothing hits you ever. But you'd have to be an idiot not to realize that you're strongly increasing the chances of you dying early when doing that, and that it's not on the level of "too much red meat"

>>8051417
Staying in shape is not going to protect you from cancer and organ damage caused by excessive consumption of alcohol. You will wish you put it down when you are yellow and bloated.

>>8051418
last time I had a blood test was 2 years ago, I have an awful phobia of needles.

what if you have 8 drinks a day two days a week

>>8051417
Because alcohol is more dangerous than being obese. You're already full Joey

>>8051300
At least drink something that isn't trash

>>8051427
many healthy people get cancer too avoiding so called bad things there whole lives. Life isn't fair.

>>8051410
There is a lot of evidence that long distance running is actually terrible for your cardiovascular health. I remember reading that longevity increases up until people run about 15 miles per week. Any more than that decreases longevity

>>8051429
How you space out your drinks doesn't affect the long term effects much aside from the physical trauma you can get from binge drinking and falling down the stairs or whatever

>>8051433
Ah yes, because the average person has, say 1/20 risk of getting cancer, let's increase our risk to 1/3 it's fiiine we could have gotten cancer anyway

>>8051433
>many people get cancer without doing anything wrong.

>I'll consume large amounts of poison that is known to cause cancer cause of that.

The real sad part is: I will have to pay for your medical bills because of your desire to kill yourself on the installment plan.

>>8051444
the average person. not even obese has awful diets so much more then 1/20. The average person non drinker has vices too, either, soda, pills fatty food etc....

>>8051437
Spacing out his drinks doesn't get him messed up.

>>8051433
So if life longevity is unpredictable then wouldn't it be better to make the most of the time you have by being healthy and enjoying life rather than drinking alone in a basement?

>>8051448
God damn it, that's not the point. The pill popper can point to you and say why should she improve her habits when you're drinking and you can point to the obese person who can point to the smoker. So let's not improve ever until we're literally the sickest people on earth and have no one else to point to.

>>8051447
only if you live in some shitty commie country

>>8051456
What's your point?

>>8051372
>science cant even correctly guess the weather for next week
>think they actually know whats going to happen with our sun in billions of years

LMFAO SENPAI

>>8051499
it's because meteorology is the dentistry of science, none of the good scientists go there

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>>8051275
fuckkkkkkkkkkk

I used to kill either a rack or a 5th every weekday and around double that on the weekends.

I am kill?

>>8051388
>>8051427
He should still cut back, but exercise may actually protect his liver.
http://www.news-medical.net/news/20160216/Aerobic-exercise-may-prevent-alcohol-related-liver-damage.aspx

>>8051515
you're gonna be fine

>>8051514
>>8051499

you clearly understand the Lorenz effect you scientifically illiterate manchildren

I'm 30 and drink a lot of cabernet sauvignon. I buy 2 big ass bottles every week and normally them after like 2 to 4 days. Is it still damaging to me?

>>8051589
>normally finish them*

>>8051589
Its not like theres some cut off where 3 beers is totally fine but 4 will kill you.
Alcohol isnt good for you no matter what

>>8051597
People who had strict parents who wouldn't even let their kid go outside during the school week or play violent video games normally sound like this.

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>>8051589
Yeah it's bad for you. Also, think about why you drink. If it's to manage anxiety, depression, you have a problem. Do you think about drinking when you're not? Do you feel like you need to drink to relax and/or sleep? Does it make you angry/annoyed if you're in a situation where you can't drink as much as you normally would?

>>8051589
don't pay too much attention to the health-freaks, wine is good for you and 2 bottles isnt all that much either. as long as you're drinking quality alcohol, this is the least of your worries, despite what flavor of the month modern science studies tell you

>>8051620
Just eat some fucking grapes if you want the health benefits

Its specific to the grapes on the alcohol dumbass

>>8051635
eating a glass of wine's worth of grapes per day is a good way to die by choking on a grape

>>8051643
Fucking kek dude

>>8051613
I'm not who you replied to but you just described me

I'm about to have my first beer for the day

>no job
>no education
>got my smokes and 40's
>living the dream

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>>8051300
I drink one 80oz beer every night and still function fine. I hit people who go to gyms, dont work and decided school is a waste of time. never in trouble with the law....and i'm 61 years old. I think you should mellow out bro,
I love tacos.

>>8051275
>CDC
Who?

>>8051668
Center for disease control

US organization

>>8051671
Oh, thanks.

How relevant are they?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eO6OaVnbqaY

>>8051673
Pretty well respected, although one would normally hear that name tied to research about ebola, zika, etc

>>8051620
Do you hide how much you drink from others? Have you tried to decrease your intake or stop entirely, but failed?
Sounds like you have a drinking problem. Perhaps try to seek help for that, and additionally, seek help for the underlying cause (such as anxiety)

>>8051690

You sound like a grade F pussy

you have
>some health nut young 20-something Zyzzfag
>died from a heart attack

and then you have
>some fat fuck Joey's world tourfag outlives the Zyzzfag
>some shoenice fag consumes bottles of bleach and 80/80 proof alcohol outlives the Zyzzfag

>but you're whining about some that drinks a bottle of wine

>>8051419
>military
Literal human trash.

I drink 20 drinks twice a week. How dead am I?

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>>8051690
>Sounds like you have a drinking problem.
sounds like you need to mind your own business. I dont know where you're from but different cultures have different attitudes towards alcohol, and not all of them are >im a huge wuss and cant handle 2 beers, not to mention I want to live up to a 110 years old so I can be an annoying cunt as long as possible

>>8051879

>Anons reaching out to the few fellow human beings who mean something to them--shitposters on a Paraguayan Pineapple Sculpting Forum.

>Concerned over behavior that the overwhelming majority of medical science deem unhealthy and self-destructive

>FUCK YOU, FUCKING IMAGEBOARD SHITS

kys desu senpai

>>8051889
sorry about your autism, buddy

Degenerate self-destructive alcoholics are fine with me
The only ones I absolutely can't stand are the ones who:
Deny they're alcoholics and say everyone else is crazy
Drive drunk
Otherwise, you want to destroy your brain and liver with ethanol, knock yourself out

>>8051889
>desu
>senpai
>kys
Stop using nigger slang and you'll look less of a faggot on here.

>>8051295
epic fucking post

I have french blood a bottle of wine or two every day only makes me grow stronger

My grandpa drank whisky and smoked until his 60s when he decided to quit and he died at 93 from prostate cancer

Is drinking two beers alone every Friday & Saturday alcoholism?

>>8051589
>cabernet sauvignon

Good taste. I myself can do one bottle of claret and sparkling wine per week without so much as a buzz. I just have it with dinner.

>>8051954
yeah your liver will fall out

>>8051950
>he died at 93 from prostate cancer
Probably from taking nigger dicks up the ass

Frogs Go Home

>>8051300
Steel reserve tastes terrible but boy does it work

>>8051462
but his point is that it's his choice to drink alone in a basement just as it's your choice to do what you want to do, how, where etc

double standard stigma

>>8051345
40oz of 8% is not one drink

>>8052191
This so much, most efficient alcohol per dollar easily

>>8051613
>If it's to manage anxiety, depression, you have a problem
It is.

>Do you think about drinking when you're not?
Yes.

Well this made me feel bad, will probably go get some beer to feel better.

>>8052237
Dunno some of the bum wines are lethal.

Mutant here! I have an extra lobe of liver and process all sorts of drugs at a phenomenal rate. It takes me about 1.5L of wine (generally 2 bottles) to even feel the slightest bit tipsy. Also, the CDC has been known to greatly exaggerate numbers on issues that seem to arise in America. I trust them on plenty of other topics, but not quite on how readily a person can be called an, "Alcoholic"

>>8051424
How autistic are you?

>>8052248
when my liver fails i'll make sure to get yours

>>8051275
You forgot the part where a pint counts as two drinks

>>8051889
>Anons reaching out to the few fellow human beings who mean something to them--shitposters on a Paraguayan Pineapple Sculpting Forum.

sounds like a whole lotta your problem

doesn't they ALSO recommend drinking two glasses of red wine a day?

who gives a shit

>>8052473
>doesn't they
Bruh

>>8052473
that's just because most people can't handle more than 2

the more red wine you drink the healthier you get

>>8051351
I think women get like 10 unless they are fatty landwhales

>>8051275
>every night
Yep

>drinking alcohol

>>8051499
weather is far, FAR more chaotic than orbital and universal processes.

>>8051597
not true, red wine has proven health benefits
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/in-depth/red-wine/art-20048281

>>8051998
per week? that's a glass and a half every other day (or I guess 3 glasses if you're doing two bottles per week), of course you won't get a buzz, plus you're eating at the same time.

>>8051954
yeah dude stop before your liver reaches too large of a mass and collapses into a black hole

>>8051275
Your liver isn't kidding you
Your GABA receptors aren't kidding you
Your heart isn't kidding you

>>8051275
if you have more than 2 drinks per day, yeah, you have a problem

>>8051635
There's health benefits from the grapes but some research is also showing that alcohol itself may be a useful metabolic mediator.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282813162_Effects_of_Initiating_Moderate_Alcohol_Intake_on_Cardiometabolic_Risk_in_Adults_With_Type_2_Diabetes_A_2-Year_Randomized_Controlled_Trial

>>8051275
I honestly have no idea why anyone would feel the need to drink every day. If you're working, there is so little time off from work that I need to utilize for other important things as well as just to enjoy the hobbies I have. Drinking would turn those hours into a blur, and for what? Going to work with a hangover?

Not to mention the sheer amount of money you could waste. I choose not to smoke or drink, in fact I don't even waste money on shit like soda. It's a complete waste. I just don't get it.

>>8051275
Well if you took the time to read that, you should've read the rest of their definitions, none of which in that section is defining alchoholism. They are related to alchoholism, which is a dependancy issue. 1 drink for women, two for men per night is considered a safe amount for your liver to process. 15 or more over the week is considered heavy. Binge drinking is 4-5 or more in one night. The average binge is 8 in a night. The average amount of binge drinking is once a week. None of these really make you an alchoholic unless you depend on the drinking. This is just a guide to avoid long-term health issues.

My buddy had to get a pace maker at 23, and liver failure at 27. He will be taking pills for the rest of his life because he was an alchohoic who binge drank at least 4 times a week.

>>8051738
Zyzz died from taking weird stimulants my guy

>>8051275
if you need to get a buzz every night, you're dependant and an alchoholic, yeah

>>8051437
You're one of those straight edge weirdos that's never even had one beer, aren't you...

>>8051738
Zyzz was not the epitome of health, my dude. Sure he looked good, but his heart probably gave out cause of all the tren he was doing, plus the other shit. He just worked out to

If you're going to argue that healthy-can-still-die-young perspective at least fucking use Bruce Lee...

>>8053991
>He just worked out to
...be stacked, look sicc & get bitches.

Basically, his goal was to go from beta to alpha as fuck. He nailed it. Then he died. Probably, in no small part, because of his methods of doing it.
I.e. Not that "healthy".

>>8051295
lol you pussy

>>8051310
Don't call him when you fall off that high fucking horse.

>>8051275
literally why was this picture deleted

>>8051300
That amount of alcohol will have effects. It's too much every night

>>8051850
according to this >>8051613
you should be hospitalized once every 2.5 weeks

>>8051435
correlation != causation
you should at least know that much

my guess is long distance runners tend to be the ones with little else going on in their lives so they have more time to go running, then when they get old they can't afford their premiums

Buzzed driving is drunk driving

>>8051424
2 * 40oz = 80oz
80oz * 0.0810 abv = 6.48oz alcohol
6.48oz / 0.648 (std drink) = 10 drinks

lrn2math fagit

>>8051295
>The only advice I can give alcoholics who are unable to get sober is to never have children

agreed, that post made me wish i had cancer
if the posters alcoholic hole hadnt squeezed him out I would be happy just scrolling through this board

I drink like 10 beers plus maybe 4 or 5 double whiskey cokes every other friday.
Is that still heavy drinking?

>>8051300
That is 10 times the recommended allowance.

Enjoy early death, faggot.

>tfw 1-1.5L of wine or half a fifth of hard liquor every single night for five years

life sucks anyways I'll be happy if I'm dead by 30