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Menhera-chan phonecases from https://www.gaingarage.com/

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Somehow we missed that LF had a coord contest via Kera recently, the winner just got her price aka an illustration of her coord by Yu.

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Posted in old thread, but a reminder the seller Mighty Ape has a single one left of picture related (black). Once again, pricier shipping if you live outside of Australia; the price of the item itself is also marked up due to importation. Though, it is likely one of the last ones available for purchase anywhere.
>https://www.mightyape.com.au/product/listen-flavour-sweet-cherry-menhera-chan-parka-black/26596468

On the subject of replicas, is it wrong to make your own version of an existing shirt/hoodie/dress/etc if you have no other way of getting it (and it's even unavailable secondhand)? No selling it, obviously.

>>9562999
Personal use and profit are a separate matter. go for it.

>>9562999
Only if it is an obviously traced print replica, no issues with drawing or sewing something similar for personal use.

Any other gulls here that aren't into menhera-chan? Don't dislike her or anything, I just don't see what the fuss is about and why there are collabs everywhere

>>9563404
Definitely don't feel the love for her. The manga is only okayish to me as well. I do prefer gurokawa/darker clothing over menhera though so that might it

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>>9563404
>I just don't see what the fuss is about and why there are collabs everywhere
Because the artist behind it is the one who coined Yamikawaii as Menhera's aesthetics. Also Kuua wouldn't have gotten in into Menhera if it wasn't for Menhera-chan (in fact, Kuua is the reason why most people found out about it when it was new in 2013 as she promoted it a lot, back then she was still into Fairy Kei, pic related), meaning the fashion itself wouldn't exist to this degree without it.

>>9563559
Plus the first "season" of the manga is about to end in JP with the next chapter, the collabs are part of celebrating the finale which may cause a hiatus for years as Ezaki is busy with his work for the Seventeen magazine which features his angry girlfriend manga.

Are there any shops besides Listen Flavor on rakuten that sell menhera/gurokawa stuff?

>>9563613
390 Thank You Mart (collabs with various artists/series for accessories), Funky Fruit, AnkoROCK, SOS and ACDC Rag (be careful as they steal Tumblr art sometimes).

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One would think that KG's art couldn't get any worse...we were so wrong.

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>>9562661
Thanks for letting me know about this website. I live in Aus and just ordered pic related.

>>9563613
Search etsy. You can usually find some pretty ok stuff there.

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Anima is getting their new collection tomorrow.

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Pill purse creator back with an improved zipper position prototype and an eyeball lollipop patch with irredesent film inside the white of the eye.

Do you anons search menhera when shopping or do i skip that for more literal tags like medical, capsule, pill, etc?

>>9564843
Using literal terms brings a lot more results on western sites in general, it's still pretty niche after all even within jfashion.

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Can't seem to find it, where to buy this??

>>9566034
You fon't find this, it was one of the two very first menhera-chan shirts thatwere only sold via Twitter in early 2014.

>>9566063
Was thinking it was something like that, that's a shame. Thanks though!

Looking for some inspiration. What is your favourite piece in your current wardrobe? Or your dream piece!

>>9566704
keep an eye out on mercari and fril, might come up one day

Anyone familiar with Hakuchum? Their webshop is password locked.

>>9568297
I think it remains locked until they have stock. They only restock once in awhile, and they sell fairly quickly.

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Yu did leak some fall/winter stuff again, a hexagram robe (pic related) and a China one.

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Sugarpain released some more eroguro prints.

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Seems like the halloween collection will debut there.

>>9573907
Extreme hype about this. Finally some more fashion guests

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And AnkoROCK expanding its "Menhera Girls" range again.

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is yakui /ourgirl/?

>>9574618
As far as maids are concerned, probably.

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Seems like the poofy sleeved LF top with lacing stuff gets matching pants.

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Do you guys feel that menhera has to have a cute aspect to be menhera? Or is a mental health/medical theme alone enough? I always thought cuteness was part of the key but stuff like >>9573140 isn't cute at all so maybe it's just how you style it?

>>9577203
This thread has multiple different styles. There's menhera which is more specific to a state of mind coupled with cuteness, but there's also gurokawa which has a lot of your monsters and horror stuff. They're similar in appearance so I guess it fits in the same thread. The shirt is cool, and I honestly wouldn't stress too much. There's a lot that can be mixed and matched assuming you aren't too picky about defining things.

I should also point out that cute is relative. It can be an image such as art, but the way you wear something can also make it cute.

>>9577235
Thank you for spoonfeeding me, I'm a lolita and I've lurked menhera threads a bit before but still struggle to understand the style beyond the obvious stuff like the stereotypical silhouette. It's hard for me to pinpoint what is and is menhera when it moves away from the cliche of cutesy mental health imagery on baggy T-shirts with byojaku, thigh-highs and chunky shoes.

>>9577284
>what is and is menhera when it moves away from the cliche of cutesy mental health imagery
That's the point when it isn't Menhera anymore, it's as simple as that.

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In case someone wants to deal with an instore SS:
Laforet got the AnkoROCK stuff from last year heavily reduced.

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>>9568297
>>9568300
That's not it, they always have stock and in fact they will have a sale on in tomorrow, it is just that their online shop is limited different to their irl one.

>>9577203
I'm glad someone else found that shirt! I've been wanting to post it in the menhera thread for months. I was thinking of getting it in the men's size though do it would be more like a t-shirt dress.

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>>9577284
You might get confused if you are looking for a strict set of criteria as seen in current lolita trends. For example, the baggy t-shirt + thigh high socks is only one way to style an outfit. It is common, but not required. It's is a cute way to style an outfit. There was discussion in the last thread, I think, showcasing outfits that broke that formula. As far as confusion on the cute mental health imagery, I might see where your confusion lies. There's arguably items that are not cute. The black/white suicide stockings that have made multiple appearances, picture related, aren't particularly cute. Tachi's art, such as the cellphone murder print, is not particularly cute. I guess in the sense of menhera, the ultimate deciding factor is does it allude to a negative state of mind? The stockings allude to suicide. The shirt alludes to frustration at fake friends on social media. Plus, the overall appearance when worn is cute. You aren't looking like an alternative clothing model or anything. (They all dress super sexy over where I live.) Medical themes as a whole kind of fit everywhere. You can wear it with a general creepy outfit, but it also fits in with negativity of the mind for obvious reasons. There's strictly medical themes without mental imagery but that would still fall in the confines of the thread since hospitals in general bring up feelings of unease in people. Hospitals are in horror movies so it's a good fit in outfits heavy on the scary factor. Take my rambling with a grain of salt though.

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>>9577876
And online, it can't be called a sale tho as everything is the same price as usual but Millna added winter variants from thick material.

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Mahoro, Amatsukami's "edgier" subbrand released a (misspelled) Menhera collection.

>>9578891
Considering menhera is slang for "mental healther" and japanese often replace L with R is it really misspelled? You often get variations of stuff like this in Japan.

>>9578937
It is, Menhera is spelled on purpose with an R in romanji because menhela=menhealer=prostitute.

>>9578939
A lot of you wear bdsm stuff as accesssories for this so it's not so inaccurate.

>>9578940
bdsm=/=prostitution

>>9578970
No shit, it was exaggerated for a joke.

>>9578063
The men's size looks like it's a fitted men's though, even if you buy it in an L it might not have the right baggy shape.

>>9580524
I agree it appears to be a fitted shirt, but the measurements listed are larger then Killstar's brand. Killstar only goes up to 44 while Cryoflesh goes up to 52 inches. The Cyroflesh model looks pretty beefy so maybe he's just wearing a smaller shirt size then he needs. (Mentioning Killstar as their men's shirts are definitely large enough starting at size S depending on your weight/height.)

>>9580532
Do you have any pics of them worn on female models? I have a really hard time figuring out what sort of mens' sizes are most flattering on women (I'm relatively busty, so if I get it wrong I just look fat).

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>>9573907
Apparently it will be only two tops, the ghost one shown previously and the vampire bear.

>>9564115
Ku-klux- chan

>>9583098
its joy division kei you mouth breathing moron.

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LF is selling shoes again but it is just Taobao ones.

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http://tsurutatsu.theshop.jp/ got a sale

>>9585104
lmao you can see the angelic imprint logo on the inside

>>9586292
Should be obvious as Angelic Imprint is a Taobao brand, has been their shoe supplier forever.

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First August collab.

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Nurse apron and cap for 500 yen:
http://www.candy-one.com/caramel/item/L4411/

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LF will be closed for a while, just mentioning in case somebody wants to order something this month as they probably will be slow af after it for some weeks.

>>9577530
Fug. Was looking to get the bondage one but they're out of stock on their amazon store. =[
Is there any hope?

>>9564445
Literally everything I've seen on Etsy has been garbage

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>>9589851
Just do it like everyone else and buy them from their Rakuten, they always release new variants anyways (like the new halloween limited edition) but $100+ as always when not on sale.
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/ankorock/

>>9589925
And to add:
Evererything oversize is in the men's section.

>>9589924
If everything is garbage, don't be a lazy ass and search yourself in the first place.

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I figured I'd post some Red Bubble stuff.

Clothing:
Medical print in different colors
>www.redbubble.com/people/tralma/collections/693561-kowaiiju-lolita
Syringe skull
>www.redbubble.com/people/theluvablenerd/works/21872877-malpractice
Medical bunny
>www.redbubble.com/people/sunbunni/works/26998293-merci-little-lops
Lollipop and noose
>www.redbubble.com/people/d-zeugderspinne/works/22667929-ache-white
Creepy monster
>www.redbubble.com/people/uivs/works/27420184-happy-pills

Stickers:
Pills with faces
>www.redbubble.com/people/abakkus/works/27387789-happy-pills-smile
Tiny pills
>www.redbubble.com/people/toricatz/works/26131437-pastel-pill-stickers
Candy caduceus
>www.redbubble.com/people/hauntpark/works/26751385-candy-caduceus

Artists:
Bitterbat
>www.redbubble.com/people/burntsugar
Cherrycheezy
>www.redbubble.com/people/cherrycheezy
Soranova
>www.redbubble.com/people/soranova

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Here's some Etsy links, and I'm done spamming for the day.

Clothing:
Nurse shirt
>www.etsy.com/listing/547026089
Syringe shirt (3 left in stock)
>www.etsy.com/listing/294262949
Dentist(?) print leggings
>www.etsy.com/listing/531930797
Hospital print leggings
>www.etsy.com/listing/512923442

Accessories:
Medical lanyard
>www.etsy.com/listing/463057216
Syringe enamel pin
>www.etsy.com/listing/540499617
Pill necklace
>www.etsy.com/listing/526097346
Scissor necklace
>www.etsy.com/listing/525121114
Hamster phone straps
>www.etsy.com/listing/476781112
Hair clip
>www.etsy.com/listing/541351297

I won't include links, but here's other shops that generally have something related: BitterBat, cherrycheezySHOP, DoomStuff, and kawaiigoods.

http://kerastyle.jp/news/4999
Kera did an article on

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And another LF sneakpeack, besides the plenty of jackets they teased as well as skinny jeans, the "color of sin" print will get a cardigan version.

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First fall/winter collection releases later this month.

No one has mentioned 'blabla hospital' yet??

>>9592765
Slowpoke much? It's even in the shoplist since this threads exist aka two years.

So, as a guy, if I were to like this style and want to wear it (shirts only basically) how gay would I look and would girls even think it's cute on a guy?

>>9593510
People, including girls, would think you look bad if you wear anything but normie clothes

>>9593510
That is going to depend on what you wear and the girl. If you know how to coordinate clothes you should look fine.

>>9593510
It's super cute on anyone, guys included, but that would basically just be wearing graphic t-shirts. Feel free to do it, though. It'd look toned down and cute probably. Share pics of your coords anon

Im pretty new to menhera, Im wondering what are some popular things to do with hair in this fashion, I usually wear Lolita so I'm used to using a lot of accessories in my hair but I really need some hair ideas for menhera, I have a hime cut btw

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>>9593635
There doesn't seem to be much aside from playing around with twintails.

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PARK got a huge restock, it seems.

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>>9593635
I'd say straightened hair makes more of an appearance here then in other fashion styles although rarely some wear it wavy or curly. The majority of girls seem to have the same style cut as you in some variation. There's plenty of pictures where the hair is just worn down. Otherwise, I agree with >>9593722 about twin tails being the main style. I see a lot of girls rocking the half-up/half-down style such as picture related. Although, full twin-tails and twin buns are also common. You really can't go wrong with all the options. The only thing I don't notice is your super full styles that involve a lot of teasing/volume. There's not much 'fussy' hair.

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Hyper is also slowly getting their fall/winter stuff, doesn't look different to the summer stuff tho.

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>>9593635
Hime cut + fringe + fancy colors is what i see on most models. Also the twin tails like
>>9593722

Has anyone here had any negative experiences or comments due to the graphic nature of the shirt or clothing they were wearing?

>>9596125
Honestly, I've only gotten extremely positive responses. I'd say it gets more positive responses then any other clothing I've ever worn. There's a lot of random people who stop me to compliment the art on the shirts and the socks. They're from all age ranges too. I've had 40 year old woman at the supermarket tell me the socks are the coolest thing they've ever seen.

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>>9592706
The whole range.

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Newfag to menhera here, is this looking alright? I just wanna make sure that I'm pulling off the right aesthetic

>>9596851
not sure if i like the puffy stars, i think it's a bit too yume kawaii but over all the fit of the top is really cute!!!

>>9596851
I like everything about the outfit except the syringe on the thigh highs. I like the pill though! There is a lot of hair accessories, but I'm pretty fond of it.

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Dumping the new LF halloween collection.

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>>9596851
It has a nice lazy/relaxed feel to it, I like it. It might look better with slippers/trainers but I'm not even sure.
The leg syringe would look better more pastel/cartoony. I think it looks a bit like a pen right now.

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>>9597738
Nothing stands out too much for me right now. Maybe clearer stock photos will make me want to buy something from it? I hope this jumper comes in a dark colour

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>>9597738
The collars are seperate.

>>9593737
Does anyone know the artist of the shirts in the back? Not the omocat ones, the really over-simplified style, the girl in the TV.

>>9600201
https://www.omocat-shop.com/collections/tops/products/definitely-not-a-ghost-tshirt
Still omocat

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>>9600201
That's still omocat..she did a April Fool's line.

Has anyone successfully combined Lolita and menhera?

>>9600306
Does PSRK sell her stuff or are these knockoffs?

>>9601101
It's not like PARK wasn't listed on Omocat's website as official partner.

>>9601387
I am

>>9601387
How ugly is Kawaii Goods merch now that it is right in front of you

>>9601387
Why though. Why would you buy that?

>>9601603
It's dark so I'll post my review tomorrow!

>>9601605
Not at all! My only complaint is that the colors aren't as bright as I was hoping.

>>9601675
Because I like it!

>>9597820
Well both the syringe and pill are pens.
>>9601060
You mean guro/nurse?

>>9597739
This is the only cute thing in the set. I'll be spending on their Ranma 1/2 collab instead, way cuter than this.

Kawaiigoods stuff is always faded. It's cheap quality too. If you look closely the line work is shit. Looks ok from a distance then you get up close and it's MSPaint quality. A "professional" artist should know better than to have shitty shaky linework on finished products. Plus she thinks her stuff is brand and prices it as brand. Delusional much?

I made the mistake of buying a bow from kawaiigoods. It feel apart after 3 uses. my friend got a Tshirt and when they got it it looked so faded like they owned for 10+ years. Quality is shit and overpriced too.

>>9602218
Halloween goods aren't supposed to be cute, you know?

>>9602446
>Quality is shit and overpriced too.
That's more the fault of the manufacturer tho, everything by AC is like that (hell, they are so shit, you can't write their name because it's in the filter).

>>9596851
You need to wear some kind of biker shorts cause your underwear can be seen.

>>9602454
Manufacture's fault or not, it's the brand shop's responsibility to select quality merchandise and weed out misprints or flunk items before selling to a customer. I would never sell sub-par products if a outsourced company sucks. Just look for better manufacturers.

>>9602650
>Just look for better manufacturers.
I guess that's where the problem starts. For generic shirts it is easy to find someone but for everything else? Same reason for why Cherry still uses Digitalart while there are always issues, there is a lack of manufacturer's that don't require 100+ pieces for each print.

>>9602443
She's "professional" in the sense that she's self taught and has been making items to sell. No actual professional education or training from an art or design school so.. yeah what do you expect?

Kawaiigoods quality has always been shady. sorry you got ripped off by kawaiigoods with faulty items

>>9602653
Completely agree the services available for custom printed apparel and merch is really limiting when you only want to produce a handful of stuff. But that's where the investment comes in.. invest in higher quality products that require that 100+ qty minimum. Sometimes it means saving money to be able to do that or open pre-orders to fill. It's not easy but it's far better to have 1 really amazing thing to sell than 20 really lackluster things

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The new Invasion Club collection is out.

>>9602443
KG seems to think that we've forgotten how much she rips off/ traced designs from other artists. desu everything about her 'brand' is trash.

>>9603754
This is cute but the material triggers me

>>9602443
She literally does use MsPaint. But that was the last time I saw her drawing years ago so maybe she's upgraded to something more suitable.

>>9603830
What's wrong with the cotton-polyester mix that everyone and their mom uses for allover prints?

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>>9603838
If you count drawing on paper and edit everything in a vectorizor...

>>9603866
Sorry that this is such a stupid question, but what would be the best program to use/method for designing prints?

>>9603865
It's 100% polyester

>>9603867
I'd use illustrator for making vectors/prints, because that way you can stretch the image into any size (billboard size etc) and the quality won't be affected and you skip out on blurriness.

>>9603879
That's what I was thinking. Why is >>9603866 saying traditionally drawing and using those as a base for vector drawings is bad, then?

>>9603895
Not the same anon but because the software won't recognise scanned outlines as such, they will stay as uneven as they are + a shitload of cleanup work.

How old is kawaiigoods? She looks 40s but I'm assuming she's high school because of the art level. Then again I have seen high schoolers who draw 10x better than her. Is it bunny? Bear? Mutant animal?

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>>9603981
Can't be high school age because she got a daughter, plus her shop celebrates its 10th anniversary next year (back then she only made accessories and fuzzy bear hats tho).

Pic related, screenshot from june 2008.

>>9603981
im pretty sure she's in her mid-late 30s, she has a daughter who is like 5 or around that age? She's had her shop a long while now

>>9604268
Somehow her drawing skills developed backwards...

Speaking of, Candye Syrup gots its Menhera-chan collab allover print tee online now.
https://candyesyrup.kawaiishop.jp/items/7520776

Since we are talking about kawaiigoods does anyone think she might be a horder? Her posts are always piles and piles of things stacked high in the backround. Barely any floor space just stuff

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Amazon has these that could be turned into accessories

>>9604268
Honestly, I used to actually like some of her stuff. The bear hat, for example, was an item I really wanted when I first got into lolita (~2011). Rather than plateauing, she seems to have gotten worse.

>>9604927
There's a difference between a hoarder and someone who just collects a lot of things but doesn't have enough space to store or display them all. So no, not a hoarder.

>>9604268
>>9604598
She's in her late 30's. She has a daughter who is around 5 and an older son who is around 7 or 8, I think?

I mean... at least her menhera bunny thing is hand drawn... she used to draw half characters in mspaint and just flip and copy.

>>9605487
Stuff piled high to the point of no floor space or room? Try again that's at least the start of a hoarder.

>>9597747
And LF finally announced the release date for the halloween stuff, the preorders start this friday.

After 100 years, DreamyBows finally got the last LF x MHC collab.

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>>9607601
And out.

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Starmii released new stuff for halloween.

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Can anyone read this? I found this on facebook and thought it was cute.

>>9609414
Really wanted those bat wing collars, wonder when they will be released.

>>9609679
Best part of the collection desu

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Another Far Star shop is opening next month.

Would it be okay to post stuff for sale here? I have some Shoujo Kenjiyoku Kakumei I don't wear. Some thigh highs and a chiffon top and skirt set.

>>9611556
Should be no issue, some people did this previously for CC stuff.

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Something is getting a re-release.

>>9610197
Is that the Avengers logo..?

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Another kawaiigoods fail. This could of been so cute too. The colours are so bad. And it's cluttered.
Looks familiar though, I could of sworn I've seen this design on another pin.

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>>9614411
Wow this one looks like a worse version of Midnight Springs Deco's

Which came first?

>>9614418
>>9614411
Honestly would've been fine without the drippy shit underneath. Damn.

>>9614431
Yea, but then it would have been hella generic looking.

I recently bought one of these from MSD and the design looks a little better in person, the official photo is awful. I think it would have been better without the glitter though.

>>9614418
Kawaiigoods just got hers done. So I'm guessing the other came first

>>9614418
Yeah I think deco's came first. I thought the same thing when I saw KGs version. What a shitty thing to do

>>9564638
Hizgi is life.

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>>9614418
>>9614451
>>9614620
KG's came first as part of her fugly allover prints.

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>>9615287
Do you actually have receipts to back that up?

Taking a quick look through their instagram these were the dates each design was ever mentioned. MidnightSprings came months before KGs ever made a peep about it.

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>>9615386
WOW haha sorry Im still looking around on social media and look at this that KG posted on her facebook. Her original design was even closer to Midnightspringsdeco, Maybe she got in shit for such a blatant theft and thats why its changed now?

And really would anyone be surprised if KGs was ripping off artists. Shes always been a bit shady

>>9615287
Nah I'm on her page and the other persons design came first

someone did say KG steals art so now it's clear

>>9615386
Unrelated, but anyone have sauce on those shoes?

>>9615416
Yeah Ive heard this too but I havent seen any like... evidence of it? If it is I'd be really interested to see what else shes copied. I wouldnt be surprised in the least if she was an art theft. Her art is so lazy why would her ideas be any different lol

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>>9615424
I think they might be a YRU little twin stars collab

>>9615396
The other designer is talking about it on a artist alley page without naming names.

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>>9615386
>>9615386
>>9614418

This design is so generic....I don't even know why there's such a fuss over it. Its two plasters crossed with some blood...in menhera fashion alone we've seen stuff like this 10000x times.
There's similarities and that sucks, especially if its hurting the "original" artist's sales, but honestly this is nothing to be that upset over.

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>>9615584
Definitely not plagerism you're right...the one on the left is the very original one KGs did

>>9615603
I did find it extremely similar, but I wasn't about to jump on it. There's many designs that look similar to one another whether in concept or character design among most artists.

However, I too heard mention of other designs being ripped from similar designs. Usually, they aren't willing to mention exactly who she's copying though. If she's mimicking multiple designs then it makes it highly likely that, yes, the band-aid design is intentionally copied.

>>9615603
This argument is irrelevant. The one posting to the artist alley fb group is trying to prove her point with KG's initial design which was not even produced as a pin. Her pin design is different enough. Both are generic though so I also don't see the point of arguing about who did it first.

>>9615622
But her original intent was to rip her off which I find extremely disgusting. Yeah she changed it, but she was going to go ahead with that other one if she didnt say anything? What the fuck?? Thats not at all okay for anyone ever to think. Thats art theft

all these KG white knights in here lol. Remember when Kawaiigoods was a meme on cgl for awhile and everyone hated them? :^) Love all these people in here defending such an untalented hack

am i the only one who likes kawaiigoods?

>>9615629
She's not any more untalented then half the stuff I see posted or available both overseas and domestic. If she's stealing art, she deserves to be ousted because that's despicable. Someone has mentioned the bunny design might be ripped from a Japanese artist, but never mentioned the artist in question.
>>9615622
It's because of the competition. It's very poor taste to wait to see another design's success or production and then intentionally produce a nearly identical product.

>>9615630
Well played.

>>9615627
I don't care who "rips off" who when BOTH designs are generic and unoriginal. Unless it's an exact copy, you can't copyright "it looks similar" design. They are both literally MS paint quality drawings.

>>9615622
Pics! Post caps

>>9615633
It is stolen art sadly. It's not cool. Yes she needs to be outed

>>9615630
Hi kawaiigoods

>>9615656
I think they're just referencing >>9615629
point about the meme.

>>9615655
It's up to other people to make their own opinions, but she has lost the support I'd give her because of this. It is a bit weird to have such a similar design released on the exact same product.

>>9615666
trip 666 knows all.

Also yeah I agree with you. I was never a huge fan of her creations but now I will definitely not be supporting her

Hold on, shit just got more complicated. This is a cluster fuck. KG may not be in the wrong.

>>9615671
My trip may have lied. It is '666' after all. I'll wait until other people want to post the new information, but the rabbit hole is getting deeper.

>>9615672
if your referring to the AANI that information was in the OP... your guys reading comprehension baka

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>>9615681
Posting second in a minute.

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This is why I'm saying the rabbit hole is getting deeper.

>>9615683
She literally admitted to this in the OP. this white knight is bringing nothing new to the convo you idiots. L2 read

>>9615681
The OP that posted on AANI did not show screen caps of their convo and admitted to not even read KG's messages sent to her. All she had was how she felt about it and that initial design she claims that was copied. End result is still different enough. Still both basic AF

>>9615681
I realize it was addressed in the OP, but that's still permission. That's why it is complicated. I do understand her saying she didn't read the messages fully, and just wanted the confrontation to be over. On the other hand, you can't expect people to be mind readers. This whole thing is shit.

>>9615691
Okay but why would you give permission without reading the message? She fucked up already by doing that

>>9615694
Yeah, I mean this is now fucked up on both sides.

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>>9615694
Yeah I agree its a bit of a fuck up but she stated she didnt want pins. I hate that KGs kepts spamming her with changes. She should have completely dropped it or redesigned the whole thing. Not just add wings

>>9615696
Fair enough. Honestly I think this is all an unnecessary shitshow over some fucking bandaids

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>>9615693
I agree the whole thing is shit

>>9615696
I honestly think KG just doesn't know what to do in this situation professionally. So to not offend, she offered to make changes to her design and see if the other party is OK with it. It makes me assume they just both came up with these generic ideas coincidentally.

>>9615701
She could have easily dropped the design before production imo... I would hate to get caught up in this kind of shit myself which she could have avoided desu by just.. you know... not making it

>>9615700
Is it though? KGs has been accused of plagiarism for awhile now but no one was willing to step up and say what was going on. This is actual receipts and evidence that she did indeed do that. And now it makes a lot of her other "coincidentally" designed items seem not so coincidental.

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Definitely not supporting art theft in any way. If KG did steal the idea from MSD that's super shitty. The fact that KG has been accused of stealing other designs in the past makes this smell suspicious for sure.

HOWEVER. The design is so generic (I mean seriously...just google menhera bandaid or pastel guro and you get lots of visually similar stuff) I'm guessing what happened, based off of info provided in the AAI thread, is more like;

>KG makes a generic bandaid w/ blood design
>Menhera community is small. MSD See's this design and messages her like she said she did with a message along the lines of "Please don't steal my art; its too similar to mine!!"
>KG is now embarrassed because now MSD thinks she stole her design.
>KG changes it to please her. (something she is not obligated to do, but did to try and be nice, fake or not)
>MSG admits she stopped reading the messages so she didn't know what was up.
>Said "please don't make pins" on the initial message-way before KG showing their final design in the convo.
>KG gets a "Looks different enough now, thanks!" message from MSD. Thinks she's g2g.
>KG makes pins.
>MSG is now mad because she thinks her idea was stolen and is now more lucrative for another artist.

Like...art theft sucks. But from what I'm getting from the AAI post this sound like what happened more or less. The design isn't so unique that no one wouldn't have also thought of it especially in a fashion/art where band aids are a main motif.

>>9615685
>>9615683
LITERALLY SAYS "THIS IS THE DESIGN FOR MY PIN"
>lol okay hun, thanks.

I would take that as a go ahead honestly?

>>9615705
But why should she drop it if she also came up with the idea? That's like if I drew up a magical girl squad pin and someone else who also made a magical girl squad pin tells me that I'm copying their idea. Unless the idea being copied clearly a rip off... which is hard to prove when the design itself is so generic. The idea isn't even original?

>>9615709
I don't get how anyone can look at >>9615683 and >>9615685 and not see
>MSD acknowledging it is a pin design
>MSD saying the design is good to go
Like if I were KG I probably wouldn't have gone forward, mostly because I would see how unoriginal and shitty the design was, but it's completely understandable she made this pin in the end?

I'm laughing my ass off at the "send a cease and desist!" comments. Does no one know anything about the legal system?

>>9615717
That, the lawyer and getting it copyright is sooo hilarious over indie brand vs indie brand that literally no one gives a shit about. What's the profit margin? $100?

>>9615717
A C&D would have been the most likely choice if you got the money for a lawyer. They'd certainly take this for the right amount of cash. However, no C&D, no matter how good the lawyer, would hold up with those messages. Yes, one side could say they didn't mean to say that, but the law would rule it doesn't matter. Permission was given.

Honestly, the best way for KG to likely handle the backlash is to agree not to sell the pins until the previous stock with MSD is depleted. I'm not voicing my support for either side with this because it is a fucking mess. However, that could be the most peaceful way I could see KG settling this sticky situation.

Yeah but KG has been following this artist. I remember her posting about MSD. A reblog of MSDs syringe pin

>>9615727
KG is offering to give them away but people pay for shipping . Either way KG gets money

>>9615731
>free but people pay for shipping
>KG gets money
That's not how that works

>>9615724
Yeah, maybe a shitty lawyer. A shitty lawyer will do anything you want for cash. I agree with you other comments though, she has no legal leg to stand on in this case. She gave permission. End of story. Be less dumb next time idk.

>>9615727
I don't think that's really fair in this situation. KG was operating under a go-ahead from MSD. And MSD has been complaining in previous AAI posts that she isn't making much from her art stuff, so who knows when the stock would run out? Also, menhera is a "fad" just like every other niche fashion. I love it, but who knows if it will still be popular enough to move a mass amount of pins in even half a year?

>>9615739
I just messaged her page with my thoughts directly so I could better word my suggestion. Also, at this point, I don't feel right just talking about the whole situation anonymously. Whatever happens is what happens.

I didnt know so many people were so passionate about kawaiigoods.

I will say that KG's followers need to stop fueling the fire with sock puppet accounts and hate mail. Just stop. That solves absolutely nothing. It just makes it worse. There's definitely some reason for ire here understandably since the decision was foolish. On the other side, people don't need to be bringing up people's parenthood into this on account of said followers. Also stop. That's just responding to bitchiness with bitchiness and then it spurs an unending cycle of bitchiness. This isn't the way to handle it.

IMO this whole thing is really dumb, it's like saying two lolita designs with bows and puff sleeves are too similar and therefore one is copying the other. I don't have any experience with KG or know anything about her engaging in art theft before this (does anyone have receipts?) but from her posts she seems to be really upset about this which doesn't lead me to believe that she was intentionally copying the other girl's design.

>>9615767
Which is why I prefer having the discussion here or on either of the fb posts. I don't think PM'ing either will do any good if they're being flooded by hate messages. Everything about this is so petty.

idk why anyone is surprised. these folks latch on to an interest and make something to profit off of whatevers trending in that genre instead of thinking up an original concept. remember shooting stars with pastel tails and melty moons or those dangling stars for the hair? all of em doing some rendition and then complaining about each other stealing the idea they got from the original japanese source

>>9609461
It just says it's Nanquim's new collection and the rest is descriptions of the items, like 6 x rings and 2 x rosettes. No shipping info, prices or release dates.
>>9614418
Is that really bad lighting or are the colors really that muddy?

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To people claiming this is such a generic and not plagiarized design. Please on google, try to find crossed bandaids with the blood as well as heart or star on the center area. There are none I looked. Plus in both of their initial designs they had the same color scheme in the exact same areas. Thats much too coincidental. There are more pastel colors besides pink and blue. As for those saying "oh she changed it enough in her final version." Well originally she wasnt going to change it at all. And she was trying to get away with ripping off a small artist while shes a large artists with thousands of followers.

I think its really shitty now that MSD is getting publicly and privately harassed and thats very not okay. MSD appeared to be trying to deal with the whole thing very privately without naming names. But here KGs is complaining to her huge following on facebook about this and people have started to harass the designer.

Usually seagulls are so good about telling art theives to fuck off. I dont know why there is such a divide in this thread. I am ashamed for all of you.

MSDs page is no longer there. Maybe KG followers got to her? I know I KGs followers were sending messages to MSD and posting them on KGs page.

>>9616286
Yeah I noticed that too... I'm really upset to hear how KGs without regard to MSD (or maybe she wanted it to happen idfk), unleashed her massive following onto her for harassment.

This whole thing is all sorts of level of fucked up right now

>>9616280
I told KG that the design was a very poor choice. It's really shitty that there is people now slinging hate mail left and right. That's... not how this should've went down at all. This is shit show.
>>9616301
MSD shouldn't be deleting her page, and she had the right to feel miffed. That really is a bummer. Flooding people with hate mail is wrong. KG should address for her followers not to be harassing people. She should not be encouraging this behavior. She should seek to dissipate this behavior.

I don't think KG wanted this to get out of hand. She is known to throw pity parties and complain but she doesn't intentionally do it to harm other people. She has low self esteem and wants validation from others that what she did was not wrong. Or asking on her fb page what should she do about these kinds of problems... since she doesn't seem to know how to handle these things herself. I agree her followers should not be harassing MSD.

>>9616301
>>9616286
I'm pretty sure she only disabled her page until the shitstorm calms down. FB is never this fast with making pages gone.

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>>9616461

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>>9616464
Lets steer the discussion away from KG as I do not feel her stuff is cute, and just a mess in general.

Has anyone bought/received anything in the mail recently?

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>>9616466
Agreed with steering the thread away from KG. I've actually just bought pic related from their Rakuten store! Does anyone know the general time it takes to arrive?

>>9616286
Literally two people laugh reacted to MSD's Facebook posts. I didn't realize that was harassment. Either way it's over with so it doesn't matter anymore

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Maybe someone likes those? Should be up soon at https://minne.com/@uritamapan

>>9616431
No KG was right there with her followers talking shit about MSD. I tired to get caps but KG deleted her post

>>9610197
no it isn't, it's just an event for celebrating the first 6 months of opening the harajuku store

>>9616811
Now that's an odd thing to do.

>>9616508

u dumb anon? She was receiving private messages and harassment on old posts she made in various facebook groups.

>>9616813
not really I think. I'm expecting fun times there today.

>>9616431

naw, i disagree. kg ALWAYS throws these pity parties to get others to buy her stuff and fight her battles. it's not the first time. plus, she knows her "friends" that are strongly opinionated. that's how things go down without her actually confronting her opposition. it happens over and over again of you follow her long enough

I've been looking for cute quality thigh garters and general garters for menhera. What sort of brands sell them ?

>>9616913
How did she even get a following? Her merch is so ugly.

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>>9617549
Because everyone and their mom got her fuzzy bear hats (pic related) and hairpins but then she popped out children, started to focus on printed clothes and that's where it went downhill while she still had quite the following due to Lovely Lor, Pastelbat and Co.

>>9617549

"kawaii" "goods" back in the day it was like one of the first things that popped up when you searched for kawaii stuff to buy but didn't know where to buy and weren't gonna pay high ss fees.

she's not original so she's good at copying whatever accessory is popular at the time. so why buy from the original when you can buy her knockoff crap.

also as the other person said, she gave out a lot of product to photogenic bloggers to review and advertise her stuff instead of taking better pictures and making better products. she ends up moaning over these "models" cause they stop reviewing after a while

>>9617519
listen flavor and creepyyeha, but hot topic sells knock offs.

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New pin from Jelly Ultra.

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Did anyone else get a refund from cherry?

>>9617911
Yep, just got an email for a refund too. Really disappointed since I was really hoping to get my hands on those medicine/pills thigh highs. Maybe she'll put them back up for order again nearing the end of the month?

>>9617911
Yeah :( I was getting the magical syringe thigh highs

>>9617818
Is that bag from swimmer?

>>9617925
Do you have a link to the tshirt? I've only found the bag in the pic.

>>9618165
The collab is exclusive to KERA so I guess if anything, you can find it in their webshop if it is not instore-only.

>>9617960
Actually anon, I've seen those for sale on Keimarket for $15!
>inb4 shill

>>9617519
https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/8thSinCreations is great quality stuff

>>9618250
you best back off anon, I already messaged them over those dang socks

>>9616913
Agreed. Don't forget it was KGs who posted MSDs personal info out so her followers could attack her. Also before KGs deleted the post crazy Party Kei girl Jill was right there talking shit about MSD. So that is two people with big followings that harassed MSD.

>>9618615
Whaaaat Jill was fucking in there kek?? I follow her very closely on lolcow. Fuck man I wish I had KGs on facebook to see that trainwreck of a post. Shame no one got caps

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>>9618123
Yup. They were really popular when they first came out and sold out fast. Idk if they are difficult to find now or what

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Okay sorry to bring this up again gulls but I was investigating into KG because of the rumors of art theft with little to no evidence to back it up. Recently from looking through both MSD and KGs stuff look at these interesting finds I've made. Done my best to present it in a... sort of organized matter. Hope it makes sense.

Bonus KG ripping off CC. I'd noticed it with the new bunny bandage tights for a bit now but I thought it might have been too generic to bring up. But with how many "coincidences" KGs has been having I thought I might as well bring it up for the record. Also stumbled across these weird syringe tights from KGs that have very little info. No social media posts (or deleted) and the picture was found through google images. But looking through her "sold" history on etsy its also there (page 11 iirc)

>i spent way too much time on this sorry gulls

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Bonus break down of similarities

>>9619123
ahh shoot I forgot to update this image with the colored syringe picture. The one I used here is from a video. The stars are colored at the end like how it is here >>9619124

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>>9619133
Don't also forget all the Chocomint and Milklim fuzzy accessory replicas she made.

Tbh this slowly deserves an own buyers beware thread.

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>>9619746

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>>9619763

>>9619123
Kawaiigoods is simply an art thief

>>9619746
Everyone was making those for a while though.

>>9619788
I'm 95% sure everyone who was defending her here before were friends of hers since everyone on cgl actually hates her work lol. I'm so happy to see legitimate receipts now here. Ive always heard rumors of her shady business practices but never actually saw much evidence.

Is everyone scared to speak out against her because she has a large following and those who speak against her supposedly get harassed by these people ? That's so shitty if that's the case. People need to speak out so she doesn't continue to make money of this shit

>>9619763
I have to agree with >>9619819 on this point. I remember when almost every kawaii themed store sold their shitty knockoffs.

>>9619907
>Is everyone scared to speak out against her because she has a large following
I think its this and because she knows and/or is friends with a lot of popular lolitas.

>>9619746
not really a original idea

>>9619996
>I think its this and because she knows and/or is friends with a lot of popular lolitas.
I don't get it. What can they even do to you if you speak out against KG? /cgl/ proves that there's at least a silent majority that can't stand her or is indifferent to her.

I don't have her on Facebook and don't want her on mine. But if anyone has her please keep us updated if she or her friends start talking about the "bullying" on cgl. I really want to know how she's going to deflect this evidence

>>9562503

what do i search on here to find these cases?

>>9620109
I think people would be afraid of the backlash, especially the weak willed ones. Whoever speaks out would probably get attacks from KG's fans, a popular lolita or jfash blogger she's friends with and that blogger's fans as well.

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>>9620145
This whole situation has made me so aggravated. This seems like such a huge injustice that isnt being resolved because of fear of her followers. The way KGs handled it was so fucking immature too because she DID release her fans, friends, and followers onto MSD. So I guess peoples fears arent unfounded

>>9620109
>What can they even do to you if you speak out against KG?
1. Reporting all your social network profiles.
2. Leaking your personal data like they did in this case.

>>9619819
>>9619996

but it is evidence she doesn't have original ideas, which if you follow her long enough you'll see and it gets annoying

>>9620121

basically she makes a post on fb. everyone comes to her side and builds her up with compliments and then she deletes the post. <- that's her pattern

people really have to be actively screencapping her because she's an active deleter. the only other huge take down she got caught was when she was trying to sell a dress as new and never worn but there were pics of her wearing at a meet. that only worked cause pics existed

honestly the best way to get to her is just not buy her stuff. she'll make pity posts and "friends" will bail her out but "friends" can only do that for so long. eventually they'll have to get sick of her crap or want to spend money on something else.

>>9620405
True. Those pills are just the resin bezel findings everyone uses. I think her stuff is shitty, but some of those examples are reaching.

>>9620441
It's not reaching because, even while something has been available for long, it's obviously not a coincidence that she only starts to sell something few weeks after someone else did, like the pill example.

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>>9619781

>>9620330
>1. Reporting all your social network profiles.
For what, exactly? Most social networks have consequences for frivolous reports. And you can report them back, too.
>2. Leaking your personal data like they did in this case.
To whom? You're already on Facebook, so you must not be very hush-hush about who you are to begin with. Even if they "leak" it to the "mean people" of the internet, they'll just go "not your personal army, fuck off".

>>9620516
>both artists copying and selling dated 2012 Tumblr mahou shoujo feminist aesthetics (though the first actually uses Sailor Moon copyrighted shit with probably no permission)
Wew, a rip-off of a rip-off. I'm not saying KG isn't trash, but the unoriginality of these brands is just starting to hit me.

>>9620526
1. doesn't need a reason, FB takes down pages automaticly if too many people report within a short period, happend to plenty of people before (guess why her FB is gone)
2. in this case, her adress got leaked because one of KG's shopowner friends has her as customer before

>>9620526
>implying getting doxxed can't ruin someones life
Are you new to the internet or something?

>>9620724 please use the new thread so this one can return to menhera

>>9620575
Being doxxed actually isn't a big deal. No one will do anything unless you have some sort of notoriety to begin with. Plus, KG's crew are too pussy to do anything to anyone.

>>9620572

she posted she deactivated her accounts the other day. i'm sure she's smart enough to know to not let others have evidence of her inability to be original

>>9583098
Black Pan-chan

>>9583481
It's a fuckin jooooooke

>>9622352
>joy division kei wasn't a joke
You just didn't get the reference.

>>9622227
Keep trying to push that misconception.

It's gotten people fired which can in fact, ruin someone's life. It can also lead to identity theft.

Don't worry, you still sound really edgy and cool.

>>9620532
Is there really such a thing as an original idea? These arguments are always based in such bullshit.

>>9622377
I've been doxxed before, dumbass.
>It's gotten people fired which can in fact, ruin someone's life. It can also lead to identity theft.
By KawaiiGoods? Got any proof of that?

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New shirts from CC. She's releasing them at 9am EST tomorrow.

>>9622657
hnnnnnng the nurse bear and the nurse

>>9622389
Maybe consider reading the thread?
>>9620572
> her adress got leaked because one of KG's shopowner friends has her as customer before
You probably missed the shitstorm caused by KG's friends after the AANI FB group post (now deleted).

>>9622934
Did you even read the post fully? When was she fired and had her life ruined?

>>9616461
Does anyone know where to get these shoes/shoes like these from? I've fallen in love with this pair she has and can't find anything that comes close.

>>9623465
I think they're New Rock M.373-S2!

>>9623317
Talking about yourself? Nobody said that, only that doxxing can cause this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJLuCtxoPNU

>>9623474
Thank you!

>>9623653
No? You obviously didn't read my post correctly. I asked for proof that KG "ruined someone's life" or got them fired, not whether she posted someone's address or doxxed them in the first place.

Anyone get one of the new CC shirts? I got the nurse one.

>>9624395
I got the nurse one too!

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The Kuua x Inkderic collab sure sold out fast.

Anyone know how pill cases take to resin? I don't want them getting mushy on me

Seems like lucky pack season is about to start, Deorart, LF and other bigger brands probably start theirs in october again.

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>>9627458
And Deorart got their halloween collection in.

>>9627845
Looks interesting so far

>>9622389
You got doxxed and nothing happened beyond that? Sure.