Online comm thread - lolita sales, rufflechat, RC:U, lolita sales, etc

>>8952850
Ah shit why did I write lolita sales twice? Eh whatever

Janitor-San. Please stop being vindictive. There was literally nothing against the rurus in the last thread. Remove rule breaking posts not our entire threads.

Is there a Lolita sales group besides EGL sales comm where replicas aren't allowed? I know Lacemarket says no replicas but I see them posted. Is there a no-replicas FB group?

>>8952927
Most places don't permit replicas.

>>8952927
Lolita sales worldwide banned them recently.

>>8952951
Sadly, that is untrue. And often moderators let them slip through for places that say they don't.

>>8952972
Great, thank you!

>>8952972
Was there a stink about it or were people mostly glad? What prompted the ban?

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>>8952859

What is with BtB only putting up the secrets submission post like a day before the actual secrets post? I understand not putting it up immediately but why give us such a small time window to submit

>>8952927
Pretty much all sales comms followed and initiated the ban.
Lolita sales worldwide, plus size lolita sale comm, the eu group too I think?
There are also brand specific groups, they probably don't allow replicas either.

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posted in LSC

Why on gods earth would you make this

>>8953791
>Walking Dead fan

trash gonna trash

>>8953318
dunno, have you asked the mods?

>>8953318
they used to put it up right after secrets went up from the previous week.

>>8953791
That hideous raschel lace offends me more than anything.

>>8953791
because some people like horror stuff?

>>8953922
Same. The roses and bag are actually kinda cool (though not Lolita exactly) but the lace ruins it.

>>8953088
a vote happened, not sure if anything special started it.

>>8953791
I actually sort of like this, mistakes and all, though the bag confuses me

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What the actual fuck?

>>8954679
>Lolita Humor

It's a joke, anon. Not a very good one, but one nonetheless.

>>8952951
A local area sales group had a vote to allow or disallow them, and they were allowed because the most frequent sellers are trying to sell off their shitty knock-offs.

>>8954686
I realize that, but I always cringe when someone spergs out that badly.

>>8954679
All I was reminded of was
>Oh we have a tough guy here huh....... *unsheathes my twin katanas* Well, let's see how tough you really are! *jumps into the air* TAAAAKE THIIIIIIIIIIIIS *spins around and slashes your face open* Not so tough now, huh????? *grabs you and throws you up* It's time to finish this little charade *holds my katanas above my head* YOU ARE FINIIIIISHEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!! *jumps upwards so that you get impaled on my swords* Heh.... easy.....

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Who would have thought that sjws can't take a joke?

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>>8956668

>>8956666
>>8956668
>joke
You mean edgy speshul snowflake shit? Nice quads though.

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>>8956670

>>8956670
>>8956668
>>8956666
I'm not even sure if it's SJWs that are whining, a lot of people on LH seem to be looking for any fucking excuse to get pissy about something lately.
Have to admit that the original post is a bit pathetic, which doesn't help. In fact, a lot of posts there have been pretty unfunny or just shit in the last few weeks.

>>8956666
I hate overly sensitive people as much as the next person, but I am honestly sick of this "joke". It's not funny and it just makes you look childish. Congrats, you're wearing a dress while the girl next to you is wearing yoga pants. What do you want, a medal?

>>8954679
I've sadly met people that think this kind of thing is funny. Creepy girls who are like "I HATE HER" and points to their ~dream dress~ on another girl that she rightfully bought. There's a difference between joking you'd do anything for a dress lightly and getting really dark and excessive for no damn reason. I honestly assume people like this are mental.

>>8956673
It was edgy and unfunny yes, but does it really warrant a discussion about wimminz oppreshun?

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>>8956676
>>8956670
>>8956668
This and beardgate have made sure I officially give up on the Lolita community.

>>8956666
'I'm not like other girls' internalized sexism right there.

>>8956723
It's a fucking joke you stupid cunt

>>8956666
I don't get all the ass rage. She wasnt being mean or negative at all?

>>8956733
Woah there. Way to go from zero to ninety.

>>8956733
No anon, you're the joke here.

>>8956736
Shes being pretentious and snarky. It wasn't even a funny joke to begin with.

>>8956736
Yeah she was. The whole thing is "ugh look at these basic bitches and their uggs and things I don't like!"
I mean she'd get points if it was somehow funny, but it wasn't.

>>8956688
Honestly, I don't see people talking about the oppression of women, I see people being unimpressed by a joke made at someone else's expense. It's such preteen level humour.

> Hurrdurr, I'm speshul and everyone else is just a boring normalfag. Lmao just lolita things amirite?
Like we've never heard that before.

>>8956666
I think this used to be serious, but it is an actual joke now making fun of tumblr snowflakes who think they're better than "the other girls". Do these girls really need everything spoonfed to them in explanation?

>>8954040
>Walking Dead
>"""""""""""""""""horror"""""""""""""""""

>>8956747
*whoa

fyi

>>8956977
not everyone spells like murricans

also that's not how you correct someone on 4chan you newb.

>>8956977
Here we go again, the Amazing Autismo is here to bring justice to the English grammar by pointing out every inane mistake on /cgl/! Beware, normal people of the Internet! Evil never sleeps.

>>8956977
>>8956985
I actually just stared at the screen for a second because that really is some top tier autism. The lolita community is also global, so their english and quality of english varies greatly.

fyi

>>8956980
>not everyone spells like murricans
it's the worldwide English standard

>>8956985
why be upset though?

>>8956993
all the more reason to point out mistakes.

this is a thread dedicated to complaining about how people conduct themselves online, bit surprised more than one person cares enough to complain about a random spelling correction. please return to discussing the lack of a sense of humor among Lolita Humor members.

>>8956687
I honestly assume people like this read too much Jhonen Vasquez at a young age. They always seem to vacillate between being lulzsorandumb and lulzsodarkandmisunderstood.

>>8956994
You corrected an exclamation, why so pernickety? Or should I use the American 'persnickety'?

>>8956948

You might need to work on your reading comprehension if you didn't see anyone talking about the oppression of women in those posts

I think "Lolita Humor" needs to be renamed "People who don't understand jokes and take everything literally and have never laughed in their lives"

>>8957890
A.K.A "Autistic collective".

>>8957740
This is a fedora-free board. Please submit your fedora and Naruto headband into coat check before returning.

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I just need a place to leave this and it seems relevant here. Lmao

>>8958495
I think it's disgusting that she's trying to sell a dress she's wearing with no blouse. Those body oils....yuck! But then again I'm not a big fan of using worn pictures for a sales post.

>>8958514
Even if she did wear it without a blouse, she's (maybe washed it). That said, those photos don't make the dress particularly appealing. I don't understand taking worn photos just for sales, especially this many.

>>8957890
Didn't that girl who complained about everyone being too serious mildly flip her shit on something, too?
I really enjoy the occasional post on there but it's a mine field of tryhard edge

>>8958528
That's what killed me, the vast number of ridiculous photos. I sell things a lot and just lay them flat. They sell much better that way than even on the mannequin.

>>8958526
Sooooo meeeean. She even used please, how cruel of her!

Did the lolita general seriously get deleted again?

>>8958947
Yes. Rather than deleting the 10 or so shitposts they nuked the whole thread.

>>8956690
>beardgate
what

>>8956998
You didn't capitalize "P" after the period, anon

>>8959293
Can we please get janitor removed or something? Someone look into that

>>8959362
I don't think there's any need for that. In the new general they went through the trouble of deleting 40-something posts

>>8956977
It's woah. I'm not a yank

>>8959355
The recent minimal-effort brolita with a beard, I assume. He got an assload of likes and praise, followed by whiteknights claiming that his beard looks just fine worn with lolita.

It was all over one of the last COF and online comm threads.

>>8959453
educate yourself

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_good_word/2013/12/whoa_or_woah_correct_spelling_and_variants_of_the_increasingly_popular_word.html

>>8959362
did you apply for the new janitor position?

did anyone?

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>>8959453
Nothing to do with yanks. It's how it's been spelled since Shakespeare, at least; chart related documents its usage in print (vs. "woah" and "whoah") for the last couple hundred years. It has always been the dominant, canonical spelling.

If you're rhyming it with Noah, keep doing you. But most people mean to rhyme it with "woe," so ending it in "ah" is illogical, even by English spelling standards.

>>8958108
What, for using a relatively common phrase where I live that's constantly autocorrected? fuck off

Did anybody see the post in rufflechat where the girl asked if anyone had taken out loans for lolita? I didn't get caps and it must have been deleted, but she said she expanded her bank's overdraft allowance to buy a dress....yikes

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>>8960148

>>8960148
I saw it briefly and was excited to come back for the drama in the comments. Sadly it got deleted. Going into debt for lolita or taking out a loan is just sad.

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I guess someone tried to be the voice of reason

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RIP Lolita Humor

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>>8961663
>seek help
>says the girl who gets off on pretending to be a child and calls her boyfriend "daddy"

>>8961663
where was this posted?

>>8961663
Ew ew, why do people bring this shit up in Lolita groups? Nobody wants to know.

>>8961671
The lolita confessions thread on lolita humor

>>8959598
Different anono, but I've always seen it spelled "woah". Everyone I know spells it that way. Maybe it's just a bad american habbit. It wouldn't be the first time we've destroyed words. Lol

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This is so embarrassing. How does an adult not know how to send a package? These dumb questions that get asked continue to astound me.

>>8963178
You'd be surprised. Have you ever gone into a metropolitan post office during lunch time? People have no clue.

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Folk Lolita chan should just stop posting idiotic questions on RC

>>8963191
Or wearing Lolita all together.

>>8956670
Eeeeeeee
Can people like this not associate with feminism, or is that too much to ask?
This is pure retardation

>>8963178
I honestly have no clue because I've never done it before, but I can guess.. I'd have to go to the post office, buy a box, fit the shit in the box, tape appropriately, fill in customs (if out of EU), fill in sender and sendee info and pay money for them to send it on a plane, right?
I'm not really sure what appropriate packaging would be either. do I need to bubble wrap everything? (probably not, just jewellery...) where do you even get bubble wrap for shipping? I've gotten shit jammed in a cardboard box that was then covered in tape from both ends, but I've also gotten shoe boxes slapped into a closable plastic bag (Bodyline).

>>8963191
She really needs to tone it down, I feel like any time I wander to RC she's got at least one topic going.

>>8963191
>just
Brands have been doing this for a while, have they not?

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>>8963263

yea

>>8956969
Yeah, I thought it was poking fun at those sort of posts, not actually being one of them. Everyone is so quick to get offended.

>>8963294
>yea
verily

>>8963234
>Domestic/Regional: bubble mailer unless otherwise requested
>International: Box or heavy duty bubble mailer
>Bubble wrap and other packing materials are sold at every grocery store, supermarket, shipping location, or office supply store

This should all be like obvious stuff anon.

>>8961663
It's not healthy to pretend to be a child during sex either but hey~

>>8956733
The issue is that by definition jokes are funny, which that post was not.

>>8963234
I sell a lot of shit online, for the US, here are your answers:

First it depends on what you are selling, some items I pack in a double layer of shipping bags (they sell them in bulk on amazon or ebay) and tape the openings with packing tape. Some items will get packed in a shipping bag to protect it, then packed in to a cardboard box.

On boxes: I buy a lot of stuff online so I have a wide variety of boxes I can reuse. In the US, you can also order boxes FREE from USPS - either flatrate Priority (don't bother unless you're shipping something incredibly heavy) or just standard boxes. I personally prefer the priority boxes that are similar in shape to the long & narrow medium priority boxes.

Next, it depends on the weight of what you are mailing. If it is under 16oz, you can mail it First Class which will never be more expensive than around $5 usd max. If it over that, you have to use Priority Mail - either flatrate or "use your own box" (best option unless you have something SUPER heavy but less than 70lbs and even then not always).

Now, here's the thing about shipping priority, the heavier it is, the less you pay per lb/oz. So I've had to ship stuff that was just over 1lb that cost $7. I've had to ship stuff over 4lbs that was $6.50. I can't explain how it works. Also if you ship through ebay they have some wacked out discount thing, idk.

So, ultimately, if you want to do a lot of shipping, my advice is:

1. Get bulk shipping supplies off amazon or ebay.

2. Offer discounts or deals to people who buy extra items.

3. Save packing materials like bubblewraps, air pods, plastic bags, etc. You can also get bubblewrap on amazon or in a office supply store.

Hope this has helped, info from someone with over 100 sales on ebay and near to 100 sales between egl_comm_sales and lacemarket.

>>8963427
>complaining about semi-obscure fetishes
>on 4chan

>>8963444
Read the post anon was replying to, you rere.

>>8961663
>I'm poly and pan but my boyfriend doesn't like it
what a cunt

>>8963412
thanks for the input, but bubble wrap/shipping boxes are definitely not sold at grocery stores nor supermarkets here, and I've only seen boxes at post offices and office stores.

>>8963436
this is awesome, thanks - I'm not in the US so that part doesn't really count for me, though it is interesting to know how much shipping usually costs over there. the packaging pointers are pretty sweet, I hope someone else here can find the US part more helpful than me!

>>8963571
Contact your postal service and learn their shipping rules so you can make sure you follow them correctly. They may have a website. They can also tell you where to purchase shipping supplies. There are often several shipping options so international buyers will expect you to provide shipping rates, insurance information etc in their shipping estimate. There may be customs forms to fill out as well.

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This was on Opaline Rose's famous wa coord, insert inappropriate "giving me life" joke here

>>8963723
I am horrified by this comment holy shit

>>8963723
This comment disgusts me. I hope someone calls her out on it and she gets banned.

>>8963860
I sent her a message to let her know, I doubt she has any idea that the person in question passed. In any other circumstance it would be fine, but in this one it isn't appropriate.

>>8963723
What happened here?

>>8963909
The OP died and then this chick commented that the coord "gave her life".

>>8963860
it's a bad comment but relax, they more likely than not didn't know (people posted about her passing in some lolita groups but it got deleted for privacy obviously) plus "giving me life" is an extremely common compliment these days.

>>8963883
good on you for messaging her privately, that's gotta be really embarrassing

>>8963723
...did anyone ever find out what happened to her? Her passing was so sudden.

literally what the fuck happened to lolita humor? like all of a sudden a huge swarm of retards joined the group and started posting shit that...wasn't relevant at all

>>8963924
Yeah. I've seen it often used as a compliment before, I'd feel bad if people started swarming her about being a terrible person or something. Especially since there is a 99% possibility that she had no idea what had happened - the only reason I know is because I browse here, never saw it in any of the FB groups.
However this was hours ago and she hasn't responded so I don't know if she even saw my message.

>>8964035
Mods should have closed the thread, deleted her post and PM'ed her why. I know it must have been upsetting for the friends to see but it really doesn't seem like she knew or meant anything by it at all.

>>8963919
How terrible... When did she pass? I had no idea...

>>8963883
If you don't mind me asking, how did she react to the information?

>>8963925
family wanted to keep it private, stop asking

>>8963931
it's probably because they're all edgy tumblrtards who feel like they are 'so fanni xd let's make fun of all the eetahs and the salt-chans who don't know how 2 take jokes'
then again I never found the group funny before this either

>>8964265
The one I messaged hasn't seen it yet.

>>8952975
LSE, LM, EGL, AngelicPoodle, Lolita Sales world wide... none of them permit replicas.

>>8964693
Replicas are rarely actually removed from LM. Mods don't really care.

>>8964695
>implying the mods even exist still
you've clearly missed out if you think replicas are the only things that aren't removed from LM

>>8964703
I never said that was the only problem? I was just responding to that particular comment.

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stop blogging, nobody cares, especially if you can't be fucked to even read the rules before posting for the first time.

>>8964742
aight my bad for misinterpreting, we chill

>>8966189
The way she types make me want to punch her in her face. Use some fucking periods god damn.

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I dont like the angelic Strawberry Whip

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>>8961663
>People always assume im into DDLG
>I just like the fashion trends and prints

Also why I cant get into a fucking facebook group to save my life

>>8966189
I love challenging people to read posts like this out loud kek

>>8966501
oh man thanks for inspiring me, I'm gonna do dramatic readings of this for my friends

>>8966501
I asked my boyfriend to read it out loud. Muh sides. She types like she's a little kid who's trying to bullshit an essay or something.

>>8966415
Neat.

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this girl is flipping out that her holy theater dress didn't come with stars and is blaming her SS for picking out a dress with defaults.

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>>8968068
full caps

>>8968080
Eyeroll

>>8968080
What an insufferable prick
>missing a big part of the design
bitch its 4 star buttons that you can pick up from literally anywhere. Chill the fuck out

>>8968080
>SS offers solution
>whines

That entitlement. I can up understand being upset but that's on AP, not necessarily on the SS. While I agree that the SS should have checked it while she was in store, the SS offered the most reasonable solution. Personally, it looks better without the buttons

>>8968080
I agree that the SS should have checked first before purchasing but that attitude. What was she expecting to get back like $30?

The SS did right in her solution. It's on AP and the SS shouldn't fix their lack of QC

>>8968068
>>8968080
>She'll have to pay me to buy the buttons and pay for a professional to sew them on!
What the fuck is she smoking? You want someone to pay a SEAMSTRESS to sew on what, 3-5 buttons?

>>8968068
Thee SS should just go to AP with the picture and see if she can get the buttons shipped in from them. If not, she should refund her fee, since she didn't double check the dress before receiving it and shipping it out (apology refund) and the girl can buy star buttons online. Or the girl can try and buy star buttons off someone else who got the dress, as someone else would have extras most likely.

>>8968195
Not everyone can sew on buttons well / sew at all, so I understand her wanting to send it to someone else. To me it sounds like she is most worried about the resale value, if she ever sells it, she will have to mark it as defective, especially now that she has told everyone about it. I can understand her being upset, it might be hard to find the buttons exactly the same, and to know the exact placement on the bodice to put them. Having said that, her attitude is really bad and she comes across as a spoiled brat. She should have just politely emailed the SS privately to see if anything could be done instead.

>>8968068
>>8968080
t b h I agree with the girl. The SS picked it up in store, there's no excuse for them to have not checked for the buttons or send off photos to the buyer before posting.

The SS should try to order replacement buttons from AP and send them to the buyer.

Or girl could get a full refund sans delivery, but if her customs are really that much, then it's not worth it.

It's AP's fault that the buttons weren't there, but it's the SS's fault that they sent her a shoddy item.

>>8963723
I want to know why she went back a fucking YEAR just to comment on a post

>>8969275
Look at the comment above hers. Someone bumped it first, she probably thought it was a new coord.

>>8969667
That's still so crazy to go back so far to find a post and bump it all the way up.

>>8969206
I can't sew worth shit but I can put buttons on. It's literally the most simple thing you can do involving a needle and thread and it's utterly ridiculous to expect someone to pay for a person to hire a tailor/seamstress to sew on buttons.

>>8969260
I see where you're coming from but the SS went in store to buy it so why would they even think to check it for quality control? If you're buying a designer item from the shop, you sort of assume they're not going to put out a defective item to purchase. Odds are the SS didn't even notice because even the seller admits "I just noticed the buttons are gone" implying that the SS did send her a photo of the item before posting it and neither one noticed the missing buttons OR that the OP didn't even notice it immediately after taking it out of the packaging.

Don't shopping services make it a point to take photos of the items before they ship them out anyway? I'm betting that the SS sent the OP the photos and neither one of them noticed. If the SS has proof of OP signing off on the dress looking fine, she doesn't owe her squat and OP shouldn't complain when the SS is going out of her way to make it right when it's not even her error.

>>8969676
How does buying in-store work? Like they give you a number, you wait for that number and then you get what they hand you?

And I have yet received photos from my SS but it's been mainly because I buy baby MTOs.

I've just always understood that anything bought from Japan doesnt get returned

>>8969693
You line up and get a lottery number. When your number is up, you can go in and pick out what you want from what is still available.

what happened with the 'harassing comment' on lolita sales worldwide? anyone got caps? looking at the profile that got banned it seems like someone made their profile into a fake one (sudden change from guy profile pics to girl ones)

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This entire thread on RC:UC is a trainwreck.
Also:
>Literally 12 years old

>>8975344
you have to be 13 to have a fb account. I'm reporting her lol

>>8975344
That Kris is an ass though.
Most kids get Facebook around the age of 8-10. If you're going to report someone, why would you announce it to them?

>>8975359
Idk about them but I did it because I don't like children and her post was really annoying and imo, doesn't belong in the group

And yea I know "we are all kids once", whatever, don't care.

>>8975368
The group has no rules. Anything is appropriate for it, the point is that it's a version of ruffle chat where they don't have retarded rules.

>>8975371
That's why I said "imo"

>>8975359
I totally reported her as soon as she said "I'm 12". She'll just never know I did it. I find her middle school drama obnoxious and it doesn't belong in our comms. Also my mini top hat salt is unbelievably strong and I'm sure this kid is a disgusting Ita.

>>8975344
Was waiting for this to pop up.

The way she types pegged her as really young from the get-go, but goddamn.

>>8975429
Oh, I'm sure she is too based on her post in BSOLF and that tophat comment (loathe those, even expensive ones) but at the same time we were all kids once and so many kids have Facebook it seems cruel to ban her when she is just trying to get advice. Luckily she is almost 13.

>>8975429
>>8975438
haha

glad to know I'm not the only one getting salty over her little snotty rundown

>>8975438
Then she can reopen her account when she's 13 because it is gone now.

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Everytime I see one of this ita cunt's posts, I cringe. Just get out of lolita. Be banned from every comm. Please.

>>8976644
who? and where?

>>8976668
Almost all the comms. A few weeks ago, she posted something about making some shitass fallout dress she saw on etsy into a lolita coord by asking the seller to add some yellow lace. Now she's posting in sales comms trying to sell her ugly bodyline purchase because it was too small (2L) and posting a ISO for another ugly ita bodyline dress. IN 6L.

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>>8976668
>>8976644

>>8976674
oh yes, related to that - how do people not even own a ruler, so they could flat measure the damn dress? I hope nobody buys it from her, I'd be afraid of what I'd receive
I kinda feel like reporting her for fake name just because she's so obnoxious, and there's a pretty good chance of that not being her real name

>>8961663
>>8963427
I am a little and it's not a fetish to me. Having anything remotely sexual about it feels horribly wrong and out of place. It's just about being like any other little girl and nothing more. I keep my life as a lolita far away from it due to people who would most likely not understand.

>>8977412
Literally no one cares if you don't post about it all over lolita coms. It isn't relevant to the fashion.

>>8977284
Pfft, which group is this?

>>8977412
Then you're fucking mentally ill instead of just a gross fetishist. Congrats!

>>8977284
Oh god this is so cute, though. What a lovely woman.

What's everyone's thoughts on having non-lolita fashion in a lolita fashion group.

I think it's fun sometimes when there are different j-fashion themed meets, but feel a little weird when people are chiming in to a group only interested in a niche that's not related to lolita/ouji/ega/egl....

>>8977996
I wish my lolita comm encompassed all j-fashions. But lolita fashion is a lot easier to "enforce" because you can critique people using the rori-rules. Newfags always fuck up other j-fash.
I'd like to host a fairy-kei or gyaru meet, I feel like that's comparatively harder to fuck up.

Anyone get caps of the "Calling out brands for spelling errors is racist!" Thread on RC? One of the Japanese girls told her it's not and she deleted it. It's so close to summer the SJWs are starting to crawl out of the woodwork already.

>>8978923
This happened? No way people are that stupid

>>8978923
Lol - how did xe justify that?

>>8977996
My local lolita comm banned non lolita jfash. We have such a small number of people who wear jfash locally so it completely killed what little jfash interest we had in our city when people saw the community divide like that.

>>8978940
Right before deleting she edited to clarify that it was the descriptor word "Engrish" that she was so offended with. The same girl told her that that also was not offensive as it is an actual pronunciation when you use the English word English instead of the Japanese word for English. I had an indignant "you're kidding right?" response typed for OP, but she deleted it too quickly.

>>8978945
I guess she could somehow see that as mocking their accent?

>>8978965
I mean then let the Asians be offended. Her fat white ass doesn't need to be offended for them.

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>New rufflechat topic: what do you collect
>Multiple "alll [generic trait] items ever!
> MFW they all then say they have 0-5 of those things

That's not what "all" means. That's not even a collection, that's having a color / theme preference.

>>8977284
>>8977948
I agree, that's super sweet. Even if she's a bit clueless, she's got some sewing skills and wants to make her daughter happy.

>>8966642
If either of you has Wolfram Mathematica, that's what my bf always does when he sees tl;dr posts (copy and paste the text in and take out certain punctuation so it reads the whole thing). It's really funny to hear the robot voice read posts

>>8963427
Are you a mental health professional? No? Then shut the fuck up about something being "healthy" or not. You not being into it doesn't mean it's not okay.

>>8977934
You are literally what is wrong with people on this Earth.

>>8979733
>>8979746
Holy shit if you actually think pretending to be a child is normal YOU are wrong. That is not normal behavior. Now just get the fuck out of here. No one cares about your fetish/mental illness. Go see a doctor.

>>8979765
It must be blissful to be this ignorant

>>8979733
>defending people who sexualize childhood
That's really fucked up, anon. I don't even care about "littles" who just wear comfy pajamas and use coloring books or whatever but if you have to imagine yourself as a little kid to get off sexually then you desperately need to close your tumblr and see a mental health professional because that shit is NOT okay.

>>8979771
get out

>>8979771
>says the person who can only feel better about themselves by pretending to be a mentally undeveloped child

>>8979765
>>8979765
There really isn't a "normal" when it comes to these things. I didn't say it wasn't unusual or different.

I in fact do see a doctor. Quite a few of them. Because I care about all aspects of my health. (And according to your emotional outbursts, you won't like what all the therapists and mental health professionals I've visited have to say on the subject of ageplay) Based on your responses, trolling or not, I can only guess you yourself have some deep-seated issues that seeing a therapist would help you with. I will no longer respond to you as I want to quit shitting up the thread, but I can't vouch for the others doing so.

>>8979788
That's it this has to be a troll.

>>8977996
So my comm's city has another entirely different group dedicated to Jfashion--but I guess that only works if there are enough people and if it's active enough to keep it alive. They also include lolitas in this group, and everyone is welcome. It keeps our meets lolita-centric but encourages awesome visual kei, fairy kei, etc.

>>8977996
I don't mind if people who normally/usually wear lolita sometimes wear other J-fashion, especially if it's not a lolita-centered meet up (that is, casual get togethers, small dinners, even swap meets since it can be a hassle to remove some outfits to try on others). But I think that just conglomerating all sorts of J-fashion wearers into a single group, regardless if they wear lolita, defeats the purpose of having a lolita community. It also means not everyone will have an opinion (or a relevant one anyway) on lolita-related discussions.

>>8979788
Yes, please move on from shitting up the thread back to shitting up the diaper your daddy just put on you~

>>8977996
My comm ended up banning non-lolita/ouji Jfashions from the group because it was attracting way too many itas who, when given critique, would flounce and cry about stupid lolitists not understanding that their grandma's old dress with cheap lace glued on was totally fine for mori/dolly/CPK/etc.
Now there's a separate Jfash group and it still has a large number of weebs who absolutely cannot dress themselves, but at least when someone critiques their clothing choice they can't blame their own bad taste on the lolitas anymore.

>>8979869
ABDL=/=Littles

>>8979869
I don't understand why you (plural?) seem to think that:

1. Every post responding to you is the same person

2. Every post responding to you is a person into ABDL/Ageplay/Whathaveyou

>>8980027
Can you fuck off, seriously, you're shutting up the thread with your fetish/white knighting/whatever. No one cares.

>>8978979
100% Asian here, not offended. Engrish is hilarious! Sjws gotta ruin shit for everyone.

>>8961663
this annoys the fuck out of me because the number one rule is you don't involve Vanilla's with non vanilla stuff. There is a lolita group on fetlife, some who are in it for the kink others just the fashion. talk about your shit there leave it off of faceboook jfc

>>8979113
My favorite is the girl who said she collects angelic looking dresses with crosses. Posts pic of new AP dresses from 2015-2016. Yeah, good luck with that..

>>8963427
It's okay anon, I agree agree with you but whatever. People are freaks

>>8961663
>It's not healthy to be a Facebook troll

They weren't trolling tho?

>>8963723
LOL.

>>8980169
sure jan

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how does one see photographs of lolita, then look at themselves wearing this getup and think "yes, perfect, this is about right"

>>8981246
Don't call me by my white oppression name, Marsha

The post about pronouns in rc annoys me to no end, I don't know why...
I'm technically "nonbinary" but who gives a shit, like really?

>>8984897
At least someone told her that that isn't lolita. Maybe (I seriously doubt it) she'll improve?

>>8985127
Oh god yes.
If you want to be treated a certain way, it's your turn to inform people about that. Afterwards, it's people's turn to not be a dick and repects your request. Easy as that.
I will not sit my comm members in a circle and have everyone tell the others about their pronouns and special dietary before the meet up starts.

>>8979113

>mfw I collect fake flowers and vintage chinoiserie vases
>mfw the people at goodwill know me by name
>mfw I have no face because I'm drowning in fake flowers

I have a problem, but at least it's a problem that makes my house look pretty

>>8984897
such people see what lolita signifies (ultra feminine outfit with skirt), not what it actually is.

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Waaaaahh please tell me im right to post my almost identical coords to COF.

>>8990041
Why is she trying to validate her posting the same coord over and over? At least people are subtly calling her out in the comments...

>>8990041
I love how all the top comments are the ones putting her in her place lol

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she's baaaack

>>8991938
Who?

>>8990047

Caps?

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>>8991938
>mfw i joined this group to avoid being a gross ita like when i first got into lolita
>mfw the mentors are saying either these would work for gothic
>mfw i'm mainly into gothic and don't trust this group for lolita advice anymore even though i just joined
sometimes it feels like the only place i can count on to not coddle itas (as a recovering one myself) and steer me towards putting together legitimately decent coords is /cgl/ tbqh

>>8991957
Join the other advice groups then? There is at least one other one, but I can't think of any names since I'm a member of exactly zero of them. LFM gives ita as shit advice on the regular. Maybe I just have different taste, but I stg this is not the first time this week I've been shown something like that from there.

>>8990041
Random, but I just spotted this girl in a Mashable video for a "DIY Sailor Moon costume."

>>8991943
Sissy "trans" fetishist

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Moving to Dallas soon , is there a Lolita comm there? Or are there just general Texas groups?

>>8991957
But anon. It's so gawthic. It's black. And silver. And there are skulls. And there's a little ribbon for sweet flavour. It's totally appropriate for styling with lolita!

>>8992394
The biggie is the Metroplex comm, they're p chill and drama free (or at least, the drama happens in small circles and doesn't usually come to a head in the comm itself, unlike Houston).

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>>8991938
Okay so I've been playing Neopets again and the skull on the left reminded me of this because of the missing jaw and the squished shape and now I can't stop laughing

>>8992459
I love that you made this connection, anon. I'd love to get back on the site but I'm 99% sure my account's been purged and I've probably lost my UC pet and I don't have the heart to check.

>>8992429
okay can someone explain to me just WHY the necklace couldn't be worn? I mean the ring is pretty bulky and doesn't seem very lolita at all but the necklace is pretty cute and honestly, doesn't look at that much worse than some of the resin crap I've seen from AP?

>>8992613
it's just very inelegant and cheap looking - while AP's plastic shit can look cheap and tacky it still has an element of cuteness to it. gothic has a more mature look that's focused on elegance and high quality; it looks like cheap hot topic stuff. I myself think the ring is probably passable since you may not notice the chunky details in person but the necklace just looks very tacky, not a good look for gothic.

>>8992625
maybe I'm just a big fat ita but I still think it would look cute.

ngl, I'd be pleased af if there was more of the tacky casual goth shit in gothic lolita or if gothic lolita could actually learn how to be fucking casual for once. The ~*elegant vampire lady*~ stuff gets boring after awhile because everyone starts to look samey, imo.

I do too honestly... The girl whos having the issue is being a bit ridiculous, but I dont think the resolve the SS gave is very good. Especially if this was from Chibi Tenshi.

>>8992599
Different anon but you could always try Subeta. You can't dress up your pets but you can make human avatars and the economy is less fucked up than Neopets.

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>>8992632
I admit to loving tacky ass goth shit, but I don't feel like a lot of it goes with lolita. The image in the pendant could work, but the pendant itself looks thin and flimsy rather than delicate (which I would assume is what they're going for), and the ribbon just looks tacked on arbitrarily. I'm willing to put some of that down to bad photography, but I'm not a fan of it overall.

I honestly miss Suppurate System stuff. A lot of people complained it was too dark or too grim or too whatever for lolita, but the things they made were just really different.

>>8992768
I can kinda see where you're coming from with that. I thought it might be cute in a super casual coord or for daily wear but after looking it up...

Fucking person is charging 80$. Eighty-fucking-dollars! I will give something a lot of leeway if it's inexpensive because you get what you pay for. Buy something for cheap, get something cheap. I'd figured it was like, 15$ TOPS. 80$ is just too god damn much.

>>8991938

dear lord I made a BtB secret about this person awhile ago, so ridiculous.

They commented on someones for sale post saying something not even relevant, I forget what it was though

>>8977284
I'm so happy to see she lives in my state. Cute moms who support their kids are the sweetest.

>>8992865
Hey it's cool that you made a secret, I wish I could afford to make secrets, but I'm too busy doing click-through surveys to earn money for HRT. I'm MTF and it's really hard to save up for things, or take time to do things that are fun, which is why I spam posts all the time. It's so relaxing.

>>8992787
LOL that thing is willing to spend $80 on that piece of trash, but comments on people's sales posts with "I'm sorry I have no money because I'm trans"

>>8991983
She works there.

>>8992886
10/10 post

>>8992886
kek

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>>8992886

>>8990041
meh, it almost sounds like she's actually listening. too soon to say if she'll actually tone it down

>>8992886
unrelated but I was arguing with a person really similar to this on leddit last night. they were mtf and on HRT, complaining about how the country wouldn't pay for her plastic surgery to make her face look girlier, but threw a bitch fit when I suggested that she either get a job or apply for disability (since she claimed she's too unstable to work)

>>8984897
This just feels like a normie walking into a lolita group, especially with the amusing "ok thx" at the end.

It's easy to see where these types learn of girls vaguely think anything knee-length with a blouse or cardigan is lolita. I'd feel sorry for them, but none of them ever care to google a single resource.

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>>8963234
>>8963178
Every day I am more and more disappointed in peoples' inability to just use Google

It's like they completely forget it exists and can answer many questions while probably using it on a daily basis

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>>8992886

Fucking top kek reply holy shit

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>>8991945
Here

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> The owner of MLD posted to lolita humor joking about stealing misty sky
> Actually sells replicas of misty sky already
> Subtly is called out
> Goes over multiple people's heads

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>>8993913

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>>8993913
She came for her

>>8993913
Amazing

Someone posted "I don't wear AP" under RC:U's rerelease thread. Does she know that AP isn't the only brand that does rereleases?

>>8994319
She probably doesn't wear any brand.

>>8994561
>"I do know how most lolita dresses look"
>still asks whether this garbage bag is lolita
Why

>>8994561
>Don't go too harsh on the dress it's beautiful
nope
>I can't put a named style to it
ita

>>8994571
Maybe she's hoping somebody will bring up ero?

>>8994597
>I can't put a named style to it
I call it skank-kei

>>8994321
Kek I found her and looked at her profile (creepy, I know) and she looks like she's wearing jetj. Jetj has done rereleases too so idk what this chick is smoking.

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Why does this seem to be so common in lolita groups? Is it just the internet in general or is it something about the fashion that makes people feel the absolute need to make their gender identity clear? I know it attracts special snowflakes, but jeez. It gets so old seeing this on help posts, on CoF posts, etc. In nor transphobic, it's just completely unrelated and unncessary.

>>8993913

Could you imagine if a robber did show up in the middle of the night though and stole all these dresses?

Like this is a totally insane "what if" scenerio but basically
>highly anticipated/sought after re-release or release
>some cuck breaks into AP and steals a majority of the product
>?????
>sells for profit

Do you think AP would ever announce such a thing and apologize to the customers? Do you think people would be on high alert for people selling the dress and never ever buy that piece second hand in case they were supporting thieves?

>>8994625
>the reason im using the LS tag
>listing a reason that isnt "because the rules said so for beginner lolitas"

Fucking faggot

>>8991938
>she

>>8994647
>Do you think AP would ever announce such a thing and apologize to the customers?
Doubt it. If anything, AP would just pretend they got very little stock.
>Do you think people would be on high alert for people selling the dress and never ever buy that piece second hand in case they were supporting thieves?
Doubt this too. If anything, the thieves would probably sell the dresses for less than an honest buyer because they didn't need to pay for the dress. For example, a thief could sell a dress for $700 and make $700 profit whereas a person who bought would need to sell their dress for $1000 to make $700 profit. People would pounce on lower prices dresses.

>>8994647
No. Brands have theft problems at cons and with events and it's all kept hush hush.

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>>8992754
>Subeta
Pig disgusting

>>8994622
Go away Kati Krage you ball of cringe

>>8995557
TOPKEK

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>ita sewing collective

>>8996835
RIP lolita sewing collective. It was good for like a month and then all the itas from pintucks and bows took over.

>>8996835
>the laughing reaction

>>8996835
What? When did that come out?

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>been following the fashion for almost two years
>doesn't know basic fucking shit
>top kek

>>8996948
What group was this?

>>8997038
Rufflechat.

>>8996835
Why do ppl chose such bed sheet tier fabrics to sew with. I hate this more than ugly clashing colors

>>8996948
>admiring
Not following. The person probably just thought the dresses were nice without going too deeply in the community/subculture around it.

>>8997083
Sorry, but it's still a fucking stupid excuse not to know basic fucking shit.

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>>8997366
I was introduced to lolita because someone asked me to draw some and I could at least name 3 brands after a week of looking for reference photos. After 2 years if you know absolutely nothing something is wrong.

>>8997075
Because muh printed fabric.

>>8996948
Maybe she's slow lol.
Seriously, that post made me wtf out loud.
I hate it when newbies don't feel like doing their homework and let others do it for them.
What is google?

>>8996835
the amount of people defending that absoLUTLY shitty fabric has destroyed my hopes of LSC being anything other than Pintucks and lace2.0
I just want a Lolita sewing group that's not completely overrun with itas, is that too much to ask?

>>8997075
>>8997484
I have to admit that I kind of wanted because I'm a sucker for both stained glass and LoZ, but it does look like thin quilting cotton and a print like that definitely shouldn't be used all over the dress. Especially not with that pattern.

I'm sorry I'm such a pussy about giving concrit, anons. I've been a member of LSC from the beginning and did nothing even though I saw it descending into itaness with my own eyes. It's depressing.

>>8997526
take it as a lesson. do not let passivity become a pattern

>>8997484
The only way that's going to happen to is for people to be accepted into the group after having their shit reviewed by a mod. And then posts only being allowed after mods approve them.

That's not gonna happen because you're gonna have wayyyyy too many people bitching about elitism and the group won't grow because the people who want to come there to learn how to improve their own sewing if it isn't that great will be deterred. I don't think it's a good idea myself.

I do agree that this is pretty much everyone who's too much of a pussy to give concrit on certain posts fault. The only way it stops is if SOMEONE says something. I too throw myself under the bus here because while I try to give concrit on shitty things some things I am too afraid to or unsure how to go about it. Will we ever find a lolita who isn't chickenshit about posting honest concrit rather than bitching here on cgl? Probably never, being chickenshit is apart of the job title I think

>>8996864
>>8997484
>>8997581
hey LSC mods, weren't you all from cgl? just kick the insane asspatters and the complete noobs, and name yourselves the advanced group not for beginners. it's completely okay - even better - to have a second group designated for advanced sewers and advanced questions rather than two overlapping groups

>>8997581 here and I'm not an LSC mod lol>>8997629

>>8997629
It might be better to just have a group for proper concrit where people are not afraid to speak their minds. Some noobs still want to learn without being asspatted and it is unfair to them, some seagulls started the critical closet group a while ago, but it is dead.

>>8997653
IIRC Lolita Sewing Collective was supposed to be like that, though, and you actually had to specify in your post that you didn't want concrit because otherwise it was to be expected. Or maybe I'm confusing it with something else?

>>8997629
I'd like to have something like this but could see it not being very active. Part of the reason I've stopped checking LSC is because the majority of the posts are beginners with questions like "pls link me a lolita JSK pattern for a 120cm bust under $7" or finished projects that leave very little room for improvement because the base pattern/fabric/construction is just that bad. I'd love to see a group full of girls with actual skill who post WIPs or discuss techniques or whatever, but I'm pretty cynical at this point.

>>8997581
I've been thinking for a while about starting something like an Advanced Lolita Sewing group, I don't think wanting a group free from inane questions such as "will this thrifted bedsheet and sundress pattern make me a kawaii gosu-rori JSK" is elitist.
If I make the group would y'all join or would it be a lost cause?

>>8997673
>IIRC Lolita Sewing Collective was supposed to be like that, though, and you actually had to specify in your post that you didn't want concrit because otherwise it was to be expected. Or maybe I'm confusing it with something else?
you are correct. /cgl/ tried to make a group for concrit and honest feedback, but everyone in the group failed to deliver and uphold that standard. i doubt making another would have a different result.

>>8997725
I think people would join but you would have to lead by example and be tough on projects that aren't up to standard. You'd have to be *that* person.

>>8997746
this, the onus is on the people and also on mods to uphold that standard. but what happens is members are too afraid to give concrit and >>8997792 mods have to be that guy and risk being looked at as bitchy or something. I don't know if the later will really be that big of a deal but I will say I wish the LSC mods were more vocal in their concrit. Leading by example works in this case as well - if the mods and whatnot gave more honest crit I think it would lead to members also being more confident in leaving honest crit.

>>8997792
I have no problem being "that person", if some people have to think I'm an elitist bitch but in exchange we get a group free from beginner nonsense

>>8997848
DO IT ANON! I'LL BACK YOU UP!

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>>8997925
Alright so here's what I'm thinking. For the name I'll just use Advanced Lolita Sewing, for the description I've got
>This is a group for people who already have a good grasp on sewing and the lolita aesthetic, and want to get advice, share work, and discuss projects with people of similar skill set. Please keep all beginner questions to other lolita sewing groups such as Pintucks and Lace or Lolita Sewing Collective. If you do not want critic on a project and just wish to share please say so, otherwise concrit is perfectly ok! If you have any questions please contact a mod.
In order to be accepted to this group a mod will message you asking a few questions and some examples of previous sewing--lolita or otherwise-- so keep an eye on your "others" message folder as messages may end up there!
>If you are denied entry, don't fret! It's nothing personal, keep practicing and feel free to re-apply when you feel your skill has improved!
For the questions I'm just thinking of some basic things like "what's your favourite brand" and "how long have you worn lolita" and just asking for some examples of previous sewing projects.
Anything you would change?

>>8997998
nothing that i can think of off the top of my head except to make sure that you have enough mods. sounds good anon!
do be prepared to hear a lot of "omg elitist!!11!" from whiny babies who don't get accepted.

>>8997998
This actually sounds really good.

I would like to join as an admirer/consumer of handmade lolita but I don't think I would be allowed in per those guidelines

>>8997998
Post a link when you make it anon, I'm interested in joining as well.

>>8997998
>>8998004 here. I actually thought of something. FB allows admins of groups to turn on filters that would require posts to be approved by an admin before they're posted. You could definitely utilize that too.

>>8998017
That's a great idea! I'll probably keep it off for the beginning but if things start going sour I'll definitely turn it on

>>8998029
just wondering but how will you be deciding what's "good" or "bad"? my sewing isn't amazing but it's certainly better that what you would see in lsc. i have a pretty good understanding of lolita too even though my coords tend to be really simple.

>>8998004
>>8998008
>>8998009
>facebook/ groups/ 16934830 70917916/
4chan is breaking my balls why can't I just post links

>>8998042
basically I just want to see people who have at the very least sewn something that is wearable and know more than the basics of lolita. I don't think this is the group for people who have never sewn or never worn lolita

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lolita humor was never good but seriously, quality of content has taken a nose dive

>>8998121
Is this... supposed to be funny?

>>8998121
Lolita Humor hasn't been funny for the past few months now. I wish the mods would do a better job at regulating the posts, if they even do any sort of moderating at all.

>>8998121
...I don't get it.

>>8968131
You can't though, I've been looking for replacement silver plastic star buttons and they are nowhere, not in any color. Joanns, hancock fabrics, Michaels, and ebay are where I've looked so far.

Legitimate plea, if anyone knows where to get some for a reasonable price, post here.

>>9001208
How big do you want them to be? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-100pcs-lot-DIY-garment-accessories-Pentagram-starts-gold-plated-silver-shirt-buttons-12mm/32652273794.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.10.kqY7Kj&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_4_10017_10021_507_10022_10020_10018_10019_2010019,searchweb201603_2&btsid=68d7e3bb-0c42-45d1-b2cc-48ccb7fb7e7d

>>9001208
https://www.etsy.com/listing/226767747/all-the-same-6-vintage-silver-plastic?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=plastic%20silver%20star%20buttons&ref=sr_gallery_9