I just fucking sent my $1100 worth of NEO to a BTC wallet

>>3104722
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>>3104722
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>>3104722

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sad. here's a pink wojak, you'll need it

>>3104722
That's a great pepe. I'm taking that.

>>3104722
It's gone Anon. You can't do much now except
sweating through the balls

I always double check every withdrawal and deposit i make. Jesus christ it takes like one second

what's your adress?

>>3104745
triple check it for fucks sake

>>3104722
Also: You are fucked. Claim it as a capital loss.

>>3104747
1FoHm8Md7n5mpqKDesfGkrdaNvH1s5tBhu is where I deposited it to so it's a btc address.

>>3104722
christ thats terrible. rip op

>>3104767
F

>>3104722
Hold on, don't do anything stupid. We're all sorry.

Could Dong Fei fix it if you sent him a twitter?

>>3104792
I can try. That $1100 was 80% of my portfolio

>>3104767
And it accepted it? Don't all valid addresses have to start with an A?

>>3104800
Obviously it didn't accept it
my NEO address is AUxY1MeLQ5JtJSWYWvZGhsYGZwMjx9Hhwz

Explain OP
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1FoHm8Md7n5mpqKDesfGkrdaNvH1s5tBhu/transactions

HOLY SHIT I JUST GOT A FREE $1100 WORTH OF NEO!!!

GUYS I'M NOT EVEN KIDDING HOLY SHIT THIS IS AMAZING!!!

>>3104826
Explain what..? Those are my older transactions.

What is Dong Fei's twitter? Don't tell me it's the one where he posted last time on 2012

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fuck that's my worst nightmare. I hope 1k isn't that much for you OP.

>>3104856
kek I can only imagine so many normies losing their shit over this even still. More and more burned Bitcoins every day. It will be glorious

>>3104855

maybe try the NEO one

https://twitter.com/NEO_Blockchain

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>>3104722
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>>3104722
You somehow sent 27 NEO to AWaAQdDFSvjvdoXDDXKbujtfrXCiCFkLzz.

So you entered a BTC address and it somehow generated the above address?
I don't think there's anything that can be done. There's no way to get the private key to that address.

>>3104722
RIP

>>3104722
Please be me

Please be me

Please be me

Please be me

>>3104922
Nah, see >>3104832
I already got OP's coins.

>>3104905
What? Does it actually generate a new address if I send it to an uncompatible address?

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shouldnt it get rejected and sent back?

>>3104940
>generate a new address
Are you retarded?

All possible addresses for Bitcoin and every other coin have already been generated. They fucking exist and are functional right this second. By "generating" an address you are literally just picking one of the many, many that all exist already at random and hoping that nobody else picked the same one.

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>>3104722
Here's a tip, make sure to double check what address you're sending it too. Maybe send a small transaction first and then the full amount.

And this is why crypto will never go mainstream

>>3104966
I will tell you what distracted me: watching a movie on the other monitor.
Don't fucking do that shit.

>>3104968
>guy breaks his arm cranking up his model T
>"this is why cars will never go mainstream, pilgrim"

>>3104965
Replace 'generate' by 'compute'. Holy shit, you're an annoying pos.

>>3104968
wrong. qr codes eliminate this problem entirely

>>3104809
No coiner here. Can one of you cryptogeniuses look at the address and tell me if he actually send the coins from this address? Or is that not how it works?

>>3105036
You want the transaction ID? 5c632d9dac1d4218ce239f20f97706

>>3104722
bro... you realise it's gone right?

ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK ADDRESSES

>>3105014
Make all the shitty comparisons you want but there is no way once someone has lost there life savings because there wasn't a basic failsafe in place they or their friends/family will be using crypto

>>3105045
I don't know how it works. I'm just curious if he's memeing or serious.

>>3105050
Failsafes are for normies. Be thankful you're aware of bitcoin before it becomes normie country, pilgrim.

>>3105036
Here's a recent transaction to an unspent output:
https://neotracker.io/tx/5c632d9dac1d4218ce239f20f977065e8804555765c3e9ff8699174843b5f448

>>3104722

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>>3105088
What the fuck is that address and how can I get my 27 neo back from there

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The adress was instantiated the second he sent it half an hour ago. If OP didn't have the private keys, probably nobody ever will and that ledger will generate Gas without him till eternity

>>3105045
For the bitcoin address >>3104826 posted:

https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blocktrail.com%2FBTC%2Faddress%2F1FoHm8Md7n5mpqKDesfGkrdaNvH1s5tBhu%2Ftransactions
showing past transactions. Is there an equivalent for a NEO wallet?

>>3105088
Thank (you)!

>>3105110
at least OP can keep a watchful eye over his lost NEO millions as it moons into enternity.

>>3105110
rest in peace

>>3105179
Lol
That sum was 80% of my portfolio. Well at least it wasn't rent money or anything. I can't expect anyone to help me out now so I just gotta start from the botton again.

I also just asked "support" (the Western devs on the Slack channel) and they said the latest neon wallet would do a check if there's an invalid adress

>>3105207
I'm using Neon that I dled last week.

>>3105198
sorry bro, I genuinely feel for you...
You are taking tings remarkably well. I'd probably get very drunk and eat lots of big macs...

>>3104965
it should be noted that the number of potential bitcoin addresses is so vast that even if every person on the planet created a million bitcoin addresses each, the likelihood of hitting a duplicate one time in all those wallets would be less than winning the powerball jackpot 5 times in a row.

Yes, the address exists, yes it always existed, no OP, you'll never find it. Realistically its gone, maybe only to be discovered in the distant future by some random dude who happens to make a NEO wallet if its still around 10,000 years from now.

>>3105262
>yes it always existed
>created 49 minutes ago

the adresses all exist only in the sense that all ten letter words exist. The blockchain doesn't store a record file with all syntactically valid adress strings. It was created as a record that will from now on be tracked.

>>3105277
Nothing was fucking created. You can "generate" a bitcoin address with a pen, paper, and some spare time, send your Bitcoin to it and it will work just fine. It's just some fucking number that you're assuming nobody else has come up with before.

In fact, some fucking turbo-autists who are extremely obsessed with security argue this is the safest way to do it.

I didn't even know this could happen. How can the blockchain process a payment to an address that doesn't even exist?

>>3104722
Thanks OP, you burned your own neo and now the price will artificially increase

>>3105299
It sounds obvious but this is something "normies" honestly don't understand. They ask questions like "so let me get this straight...when I make an account with Google, google knows I made an account and it won't let anybody else make the same account as me. So why can't bitcoin just do that then?"

>>3105308
You're taking "created" a little too literally and you generally sound like an asshurt nocoiner anyway. You can only wish you'd get 27 neo randomly, whereas I can buy more coins.

>>3105317
Read thread. see >>3105308
>>3105262
>>3104965

>>3104722
OP....do it again and see if it works this time.....

But even if it was someone's active wallet, they couldn't actually retrieve the NEO correct? Since it's a BTC wallet?

That shit is just gone for forever?

>>3105343
>You can only wish you'd get 27 neo randomly
I did. See: >>3104832

I won them.

>>3104722
>lose $1100 because wallet only accepts one currency
>blockchain is the future

>>3105397
If you input my wallet address you'll see the date it was created. This new address was created instantly when I did the transaction and nobody actually thinks you're funny.
>>3105390
Sure!

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>>3104978
You are watching a movie while sending 1000$? What the fuck?

>>3104745
I quadruple or pretty much decuple-check.

>>3105437
Alright..I feel bad for you.
Why don't you just contact them via
https://twitter.com/neo_blockchain
and see what you can get rather...just a thought

>>3105475
Left a message on Facebook

>>3105351
OK, but how do you get the private key then?

>>3105393
It has nothing to do with bitcoin. The protocol just interpreted the adress in some was that made sense to it. Like if you're in Grand Street and search house number 46, while actually you want to get to Penny Lane 46. You'll walk to number 46 because that's an instruction you can follow - the fact that you're on the wrong street might get unnnoticed.

In the absolutely unlikely case that you'd send it to a random adress and it was already in use (sandcorn on a beach probablity), that 27 NEO could now be sent.
But irl the adress will never show up before anyones eyes accedentally again and nobody will have the private keys.

>>3105492
Well..good luck...however...it will be highly unlikely
you will get it back..its gone in the ether...

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>>3105503
Damn. RIP, OP. Here's a nice ass for you.

>>3104855
His name is Da Hongfei genius

>>3105456
By the way if you want to laugh more, I was/am watching The Matrix Reloaded.

>>3105525
NICE

>>3105525
Someone post that 'ass man' pasta.

>>3105475
D E C E N T R A L I Z E D
N E T W O R K

The neo devs just update the repo with the protocol code that people who want to be nodes may update upon relevant releases.
Nobody has access to other peoples ledgers unless you purposely hack them to phish their private keys.
The neon wallet by the community just didn't have a user fault feature until yesterday. A wallet is also just a wraper for the send-money client.

>>3104722
Make it a great day and send me $900 in BTC here:
1Fpi2x5FQnSVUheQqpod2RFNtdP5DpbC2k

>>3105110
It's possible somebody gets this address though, right? Not impossible, just very unlikely.

>>3105589
you'd have to guess the private key. Not happening.

>>3105615
ah, so manually? yeah not happening

guess maybe one day that 27 NEO might be worth the GDP of a small country and people will be working round the clock to unlock the treasure

pretty sure OP is LARPing... addresses aren't generated just because you sent some money to them

>>3105692
Time to start FUDding 24/7 lmao

>>3105706
Try that yourself and then come back.

>>3105692
Damn. OP is like the guy who threw away his PC filled with tons of BTC and he went searching through the garbage dump with a bulldozer

>>3105308
You can create a private key with a dice. Pretty cool

what exactly happened to these coins?

serious technical question

>>3105825
nothing special at all.

they were sent to a ledger on the blockchain.

the only issue is that nobody had generated the adress before - any app that would create

an adress would usually also generate a suitable private key to send money FROM that adress.

>>3105692
if that were practically possible, then rather do it with the binance ledger, which holds 1.7% of all NEO. or the Bittrex ledger, which hold 0.3%. Not OPs. No adress is different than any other in that regard.

>>3105872

i thought different coins come with different initials of the address?

I mean you essentially try to send these coins to another whole different blockchain, so where exactly are these coins now/what happened to them?

>>3105277
>>3105299

The blockchain is a collection of transactions. when a transaction to a valid public key is executed, the block chain stores that information in the spent transaction object. Then, whoever can demonstrate a derivation with said public key can then place a new spent transaction on the blockchain with that transaction object.

Wallets are not part of the block chain, they're simply a set of criteria that defines a valid string for a bitcoin wallet. Wallets are an abstraction layer that allows us to conceptualize transactions in the blockchain that we can "stake ownership" to (since we have access to the private key that derives the public key).

So yes, every potential bitcoin wallet already exists and doesn't need to be created. A vast, vast, vast majority of these wallets are empty however and this will likely always be the case so long as blockchain technology is relevant (long past the end of our lives).

>>3105825
Gone not like a fart in the wind, but a fart contained in a jar and that jar was shot to outerspace.

>>3104722
This isn't making any sense. You wanted to send NEO to some address but instead of inputting a NEO address you put a Bitcoin address, correct? These addresses are not structured randomly they are derived via some functions and contain a checksum. That means if you try to withdraw NEO into a Bitcoin address NEO would reject it because it doesn't understand the address. That is unless NEO devs fucked something up.

>>3105918
The bitcoin adress was just interpreted as a NEO adress.
The strings you see a converted a whole bunch of times till they get used and the system accepted it.

Like if you have to enter a Name and a user account take the first initials, Bob Stevens becomes
{"user": "BS"}
Then if you enter "Bridge Steel" or "Back Stabbing", he'd also make sense of that as "BS".

If you have a safety net, like a storage of valid names where you do crosschecking before you allow to send, then this wouldn't happen. But at face value, the blockchain client didn't do that, and the wallet is just a wrapper for the client and such a safety net wasn't implemented.

The fact that you have, for example, pin numbers on something like the Jaxx wallet, or that it holds multiple currencies, is a feature of the for-profit company Jaxx and unrelated to any blockchain

>>3105984
I doubt that you never heard "don't send wrong coins to wrong addresses". I clicked Send on my Neon wallet and it bounced off the incompatible btc wallet to some bumfuck Neo address. If you need technical details it looks like there's a guy here who knows what he's talking about.

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Let's imagine all the things that could have been bought with OPs money that got sent into oblivion.

A nice trip to southern spain

>>3105496
guess and check? at 1 million wallets a second it'll only take you 366922989192195209469576219385149402531466222607677909725256 millennia.

>>3106017
So NEO devs fucked up their shitcoin. Got it.

>>3106031
a half ounce of mid grade cocaine

>>3105996

good stuff thus far

so these coins they do still exist at this X address in NEO blockchain?

is just that X address was/will never exist?

is there a way enforce this X address into NEO blockchain?

>>3106087
I posted a screenshot to the ledger in >>3105110, mate, c'mon

>>3106087
it exists but nobody knows the private key.

how are you all invested in crypto but you don't understand the concept of a private key? did you just trust that your thousands of dollars were safe?

>>3106150
got it all now ;D not sure how i missed that

everything is crystal clear now

>>3105589
With computers we got now? If you compute till all the stars dim in the universe, maybe you'll finally find his private key.

>>3105589
its very unlikely in that in the set of all possible things stuff that is stupidly rare that you would not consider a possibility (like a pure gold meteor landing at your feet making you the richest person alive) would have to happen multiple times to even come close to the same level of unlikelihood.

From any practical perspective, no its not possible. Unless you 3*10^63 years to blow.

>>3106150
>>3106223

no it is not possible to ever get that private isnt it, because the address was instantiated the second he sent it, you wont ever get the private key of the address generated that way

>>3104722
F

>>3104722
Nexus will prevent that problem

So you guys are telling me that every bitcoin sent to a non bitcoin address is destroyed? Won't that mean that over time bitcoin will become even more inflated in price due to not only limited supply but actually having less that 21 million in circulation?

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I always ALWAYS send 0.001 of whatever the coin is to test the transaction. I'm super paranoid so I even wait for all the confirmations too before sending the full ammount.

>>3106328
>So you guys are telling me that every bitcoin sent to a non bitcoin address is destroyed?

no, nobody said that.

>>3106352
But effectively it may as well not exist since it's forever out of circulation.

>>3105503
Well, it fucking sucks right.

A valid address for a chain should be something that will pass some checksum for only that chain

>>3106281
I'm not sure if you can't in principle generate two times the same adress+private keys in a row. I think it's possible. After all, you don't need to be connected to the internet to generate them.

your NEO are now safe from weak hands

>be last month
>remember i have 0.16 btc and 5 ltc in btc-e account
>think i should withdraw because its actually worth like 1000$ now
>fbi seized it
why murrica, could have had a nice 1080ti for it

>>3106425
What the fuck did you do that they seized it

>>3106383
most likely.

>>3106398
you guys still don't get it do you?

if we all got together and I said we're all gonna have numbers between 1-1000 you can pick 82 or 755 or whatever but those numbers weren't "generated" by you, you just picked a number that already exists. The point is that with bitcoins and shit there are so many possible numbers to choose from (2^256) that its pretty much impossible to actually guess someone else's number. all your wallet does is randomly pick a valid number then derive a public key.

>>3106439
they seized the exchange because the owner was money laundering

In other news NEO wallet version 4 is out and everyone is encouraged to download

What the fuck did someone donate me 0.96402331 Neo to Bittrex? The txid looks weird: NEOWRFND6f061d9e9b50754d2c797a2962afc56cd0e42f01

>>3104722

Was this on Bittrex? If so:

https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000961172-Bittrex-s-Crosschain-Recovery-Policy


You're most likely still fucked, but can't hurt to try contacting their customer support.

If you were on a different exchange, make sure you check on their recovery policy.