I'm back again. Friendly reminder, don't buy in until

>>2672312
Thanks God

>>2672312
Man, could have made so much money shorting ETH and ATVI, really annoyed with all these verification requirements.

>>2672316

I've been posting about eth the past couple of days. Just passing on info.

>>2672312
you back again? are you the guy who said 'it's hitting 200 by 7pm pacific' yesterday?

>>2672336
yeah that faggot

"derp it'll hit 250 by 12pm pst"

dont buy what???

>>2672336

No, I said 12 p.m. pacific. Followed up with the fact that it was pushed back, still told to wait. Fact is, it went from 320 when I made my first post to what it is now. Before anyone asks, there was too much resistance yesterday and it was decided to hold off. Look at the charts though and you'll see the drop at 12.

>>2672381
I don't have any more eth, but let's see if your prediction is right

>>2672324
you only make money shorting if the price goes up again, cuck

>>2672582
?

>>2672582
>doesn't know how shorting works

>>2672312
So you're over here saying that eth will drop to 250 in a few hours. Another faggot is saying eth will reach ATH in 5 hours.

Which one of you faggots is right?

>>2672692
you sell shares at the top, and then buy them back at the bottom. you have more shares, but unless the price goes up you still have the same amount of money

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>>2672726
The one that is saying its gonna drop

t.Logic

>>2672726
>250
Nigga it's going to 200

Nobody knows what it's gonna fucking do by the way

>>2672726
Eth dips every weekend
its starting to dip early
this one might get ugly senpai

IF YOU LOOK AT WHALEPOOL CHAT THEY HAVE ALL BEEN DUMPING SLOWLY OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS SO AS TO NOT ALARM THE MARKET

THEY PLAN ON REBUYING AT 150

FUCKING SELL NOW UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET FUCKED

>>2672755
Also, status fags are liquidating their ETH collected during the SCAM

>>2672726

Who knows, but considering its rebound last time, you need to pay attention to the market because it goes up far faster than it falls.

I'm thinking that because people have expected it to fall we have a lot of fresh blood new to margin trading shorting. Once they start to get squeezed things will get interesting.

But as it stands, its fallen too much to enter a short right now, it might go up it could go sideways from here so I'm just going to avoid placing a position.

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>>2672755
Why wouldn't I just keep all the ETH I have and buy more when it goes on SALE??!

>>2672772
It's easier and you're less likely to panic buy in at the wrong time but less rewarding.

>>2672731
dude...
you BORROW shares at the top and you BUY them at the bottom

>>2672726
why 5 hours? but yeh it's gonna hit ATH next week latest, for sure

>>2672312
But why would I buy $100 before the dip?

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>>2672762
>margin trading shorting

>>2672755
how do you 'look at the whalepool chat' lol

>>2672772

Because it might not ever go back up. This isn't the stock market where the Fed will just prop up whatever shit company tanks.

>all /biz/ threads talk about selling ETH

Isn't this one of those boards where you're supposed to do opposite of what everyone's saying?

>>2672834
ETH and BTC are cemented to be #1-2 unless some NEW radically better coin appears
none of the currently existing ones could hit either of them out of the top2

and crypto is doomed for a rise on the long term, its usage is still only at a infinitely small fraction of its potential

so this 'might never go back up' is just dum

>>2672834
hussshhh my sweet bearded child. you have so much to learn

>>2672846
Yes, do not sell your ETH you're doing exactly what /biz/ wants you to do by doing so.

>>2672857
What about LTC?

>>2672755

Something like this is what I've been told. But short term, as in this weekend they want it at least 250. I'm happy with that personally, buying in again at that.

>>2672772
BECAUSE YOU CAN DOUBLE YOUR ETH HOLDINGS BY SELLING NOW AND REBUYING AT 1/2 OF ITS CURRENT PRICE YOU STUPID FUCKING SHIT

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pic related anti-eth /biz day trader

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IT KEEPS GOING DOWN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiXS_jjJYY8

>>2672803

If you think it will drop to 150, then wait. It might, but short term I believe 250, then a rebound to 300. After that maybe a push to 150, who knows. I wouldn't doubt it.

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>>2672914
you aren't being a "stupid fucking shit" by seriously guaranteeing this, are you?

>>2672923

Came to this thread for this post.

Is it too late to short guys?

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>>2672893
b-but.. isn't /biz/ saying that now because they it wants to reverse psychology him into selling his ETH?

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>>2672893

pic related

>>2672893
Generally not great strategy to hodl something that had gone up 5000% in 4 months imo

Never a gain until you cash it out

>>2672857
this. only way eth isn't coming back up is if btc doesn't either.

This is op by the way. My id changed. Here to talk for a bit before heading off for a few hours if anyone wants to talk.

>>2672909
i don't think it has fundamental reasons to be always @ the top, but im not an expert on it
but i was in BTC before LTC was born.
accepted at a small fraction of palces of BTC/ETH, no enterprise backing like ETH
they aimed to be 'silver' to 'bitcoin gold' originally (they were the first altcoin), but now ETH has lower transaction times / fees by FAR than what they can achieve

so idk. i may be missing something about it, but i see no reason for it to be also cemented at the top

>>2672978

Its not a great strategy to sell something when people are selling either.

t. ETH earlier this week.

DASH looks safe to park your shit in for a while, wait for Eth to bottom out.

>>2672857
>>2673005
The silver/gold analogy I see good. I just always see those top 3. Another Anon compared Bitcoin to MySpace and ETH to Facebook and I hadn't considered that but myspace used to be "it".

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Proof.

>>2672978
yeah when BTC first hit $10 that logic paid a lot of people off very well, they're still praising their blessed intuition for cashing out for good

Your whales tried and ETH's bottom was about 270
NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE LAMBOMOON BOYS
HODL

>>2673027
Proof of Work or Proof of Stake??

>>2673027

How did you come to your conclusion OP

>>2673042

Wonder how much it will sky rocket after all these faggots shorting get squeezed out of their positions. Haha.

Probably a slow decline to ~$130 and then stable for at least a few months.

>>2673042

I doubt that. Like I said before, it's being done in a way to make it look like it's not being manipulated, at least to the average person. They want people to lose faith and sell their eth so they can scoop it up cheap.

>>2673028
A 5000% return is once in a lifetime stuff. Maybe you hit a 10 bagger once in a decade but that's if you are in seriously degen risky asset class

Do what you want

>>2673057

As I said in previous posts, information was passed to me, which I'm passing on here. It's information that's worked out for me so far. I was told 320 would be the absolute top before a sharp correction, and I posted about it happening the night before. I have the screen cap, I'll post in a minute if you'd like.

>>2672582
no tendies for you

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>>2673057

Here you go.

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>>2673088
btc has over 25,000,00% return for those who purchased it when it first started trading lol

your logic is wrong. crypto has overall a marketcap of 100 billion at most (in reality a LOT less, a lot of private keys been lost/will never be used/owners died/etc)

that's LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING compared to the market cap of... what its potential applications are (store of value - GOLD/SILVER, currency - USD/EUR) and it will also have ENTIRELY new applications that's not currently market cap'd by anything


pic very much related.

whops, can't post it full size, cuz 'resolution is too large', but check it out here

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>>2672324
I'm up 298% shorting between the fib lines on Kraken on 5:1 margins. WOOOOOOOOOO.

Took me 3 days to get verified to tier 3, fyi. Only a day for tier 1.

>Not going all in on ETH now

>>2673155

shorting on kraken too

All those fags don't get it and are holding their bags tight

>>2672324
you can short on bitfinex
much lower interest rates too (peer to peer lending), and far better software

you can also move any amount (1000 BTC and more) in and out without any verification, that's only needed for USD transfers

if you actually short ETH you'll lose everything fast tho :}

>>2673082

I have been noticing some weird sell wall ceilings during recoveries as well, whenever it starts shifting upwards 300 - 500 BTC appears not very aggressively but halts the momentum and the moment the downshift begins it vanishes.

Screams manipulation to me.

>>2672324
oh in case you actually use bitfinex, you could use the affiliation code ifWmXFrqNi ( https://www.bitfinex.com/?refcode=ifWmXFrqNi )
that way both of us get 10-10% off your fees (meaning your maker/taker fees will be 0.00018/0.00009 instead of 0.00020/0.00010 AND i also get 0.00002 and 0.00001 of your trades to my margin account, win-win, only the exchange takes home less)

>>2672951
Let's just toss a coin

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Holy shit, this is so intense. This is it! The make or break pull! If we break down past $265, that's it, goodnight ETH, down to $260, then likely $208. If we pull past $275, it heads back to $300.


WHICH WILL IT BE!? Keep your eyes glued on the trend of the bid vs ask volume!

Giving ETH has bloody weekends, that we're on a contiuning bear market, and negative social sentiment within the online trading community, I say we pull through and crash down more.

See you boys at $208!!! Get those shorts ready!

>>2673317
it's already past $275 on bitfinex

You gotta be really stupid to think ETH isn't going below 200$ during next crash.

>>2673358
Where can I see BTC and ETH charts parallel time?

>>2673327
Looks like its more between $270 and $280 now, which makes sense since $280 is a support line. If it breaks through the support, it might go up. I don't think so, though. Volume is still too seller heavy.

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>tfw I know dapps will destroy the entire eth blockchain
>tfw ethnormies will never catch on until 1 $

DA BEAR TRAP

>>2673403
WE 281 NOW
GET READY TO DUMP YOUR BAGS ON THE MOON

>>2673403

Seller Volume is people shorting t. vickybot, if it surges and people close those positions it will easily find $295-300 ceiling again.

>>2672944
LOL OH LOOK IT'S 264 NOW.

WHO IS LAUGHING NOW FAG?

IT'S ME. LAUGHING AT YOU BEING A STUPID FUCKING SHIT.

SELL NOW OR BE KEKED.

>>2674020

its at 270, just $100 more to go anon, I believe in you.

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patiently waiting for new buy signals around 260 is your best move here boys trust me im up a bajillion

the big question is if it will rebound off of $250 or continue dipping. if you buy in at $250 you could get rekt if it falls further. conversely, if you wait for it to dip further and it doesn't, you will miss the rebound

>>2673510

I'd wait.

jesus, this fucking guy might actually be right

Cucks in this thread think it's stopping at 250. Top kek.

>>2672312

Same as last time, just buy the dip and for fucks sake HODL. Don't be a panic selling little numale faggot.

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OP, please get yourself a tripcode for future tip offs.

>>2674169
wen will u retards realise u r holding bags once it hits 220 everyone is going to buy back into an actual failing coin did u c the livestream today? theyre going to have multiple transaction ids

>>2674173

Op again. How do I do this?

>>2674278

In the name field put in a username and password like so:

User##password

the only hash of the password will be displayed, so we can verify your identity

>>2674306

Thanks.

Proof it's me.

>>2674345
>>2674335
>>2674330

thanks OP, got my buy orders hanging out just above 0.103 BTC

>>2674345
do you think it will rebound off of $250 or fall further down?

>>2674345
Got a refcode on bitfinex? I'll put you, to give something back

Waiting for $250 throwing in 2k

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>>2672312
I bought at 275 i think I'll be okay

>>2672755
Ethereum's market cap is $26 billion, I doubt one group owns very much to dump

>>2674447
I agree. I think this is overhyped. That doesn't make $250 a bad entry for ETH, but... it could also go way lower...

price got too high too fast so it's slowly going down to a new normal. there are fluctuations on the way down, but the dips are deeper and the highs lower every time.

>>2674386

It's going to be pushed down as much as possible towards 250, but if it goes lower even better. The first night the goal was 300 and it was pushed to 290. It could go below 250, but personally I'm OK jumping in at that level.

>>2674912
do you think it will go up significantly after the dip to $250? or do you think it will just level off around ~$250?

pushing the market with 3-4k eth to ~250 seems kinda risky.. cant imagine their shorts

Cmon... when are these chinks gonna dump

placing my buy orders, OP

Here goes nothing

>>2674912
>The first night the goal was 300 and it was pushed to 290
Oh wow, that's so amazing. I should believe you then.
Oh wait, that's completely within the swinging range of ETH under normal circumstances

>>2675136

>>2675136

When I first posted nearly everyone who replied didn't believe me and we're convinced 300 was the floor and we were on the way to 600. I don't know about normal swings, just what I was told to look out for and around what time. Look at the screen shot in this thread, and check the charts.

>>2672726
Hmm, is going to double in value, completely switching trends in the next 5 hours or is it going to drop 10 more dollars? which is more likely?

hard to say.

>>2674961

Last I heard, the 2/3 week plan is to let it go up again one more time past 300, and selling off and causing a massive dump bringing down the price around the end of the month. Its meant to coincide with all the august 1st talk. It's just talk, but talk moves these markets and they know that. If it's brought down to 250 and causes another bear run in the next couple of days, even better. The ultimate goal is to just accumulate more eth. Understand though, they're using the flow of the market to their advantage so things can change slightly. Again, it's being made to look natural to someone just glancing at charts.

>>2675467
if i may ask, do you own any eth? if so, did you sell off and are buying back in tonight?

Can somebody summarize the Delaware thing. I'm driving right now and can't read their bloated article. What does it have to do with eth

>>2675512

I do. I have two stacks, one I'm holding onto and the other I sell high and buy low with so I can accumulate more. I've had a buy order set at 250, with some fiat set aside in case it goes a bit lower.

>>2675512

Sold at just under 320 when I first posted here the other night.

>>2675543
i've been in your past few threads and i appreciate your insight, so thank you. just to be clear, you're saying that after this price drop you expect eth to go up over 300 again before more sell offs? i have never sold my eth before from when i bought in at $19 but i may do it for the next price movement

>>2675569

I can't tell you or anyone what to do. Everyone's situation is different. To be honest, I wouldn't count on anything that's weeks out. Like I said, things can change. The only time I've been passed info and told it's really solid, it's always less then a days notice, sometimes a few hours. I asked the same questions you have and was told this long term plan, but have no idea if that's still going to be followed through with in a couple of weeks. I'll post here when I can, but the only thing I've been told that seems pretty for sure is the short term push to 250.

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ETH is doomed
just look how out of control it really is:

bc.daniel.net.nz

just imagine people actually used ETH as much as BTC than whole thing would collapse really fucking fast

>>2675593
ok, last questions. are they doing this as just another coin to flip back and forth to make a quick buck? or are they doing this because they believe ethereum will be very big in the future and they want to accumulate as much as possible before then? i see a lot of posts on here lately about how Ethereum is a "shitcoin" and it makes me wonder why im seeing so much of that being posted lately. again, thanks for your posts and i hope to hear from you again in the future

>>2675602
Some people prefer to overlook these "details" but actually ETH is a complete mess under the hood

Bagholders are blinded by greed and quick cash grab with ICOs, but in reality those ICO are lesss and less profitable.

Status, EOS, Bancor... all are under the introduction price in USD

>>2675602
case in point this post right here. a lot of this has been popping up lately. it seems almost orchestrated. what do they have to gain by posting this? if it really is a shitcoin, why do they even care enough to keep posting this in multiple threads

>>2675608

Overall I'm told they want to accumulate, but there are some who just want a quick buck. The pos I'm told is what interests them the most, which is why they want to accumulate.

>>2675667
damn, it's pretty stupid how the value can be manipulated so hard. anyway i'll keep an eye out for your future threads. have a good night

>>2675667
Hey there ETHgod, I've seen your posts and, for the most part, they've been on par with what's happening in the market. You say I should wait to sell. I've lost around 6 ETH by selling and diversifying into different altcoins and want to try selling my eth and buying at a low price. What is your predicted ceiling and floor (in other words, where should I aim to sell and buy)
>inb4 buy high, sell low

>>2675699

Buy high, sell low my friend

>>2675708
Definitely fucks

>>2675353
Nice strawman, setting up a counter position that seems ridiculous. I don't know a single person who seriously thinks it's going to 600. Those are 380 buy in bag holders.

Your predictions are all based on obvious and slow happenings

>>2672312
>>2672340
>>2672336
hi giant newfag here. when you guys say 250, 200, etc do you mean in dollars?

>>2672755
This whale bullshit. Look at the other coins, they all took a shit. There aren't any magic ETH gods that drop it $150 or raise it $350. It's shit like people losing confidence in the long term when the network is taking a shit on all the exchanges this early on in ETH's life.

Litecoin has lower % xfer fees. Think of Chinese moving a lot of money. They are going to move it first off on a network that isn't bogged down every other day, and most importantly the cheapest way to move it at the moment. Those are the types of variables that shake enough cages to move mountains. From what I see right now all the coins are moving in tandem, suggesting they are following a greater happening with bitcoin's value.

Have 2 ETH accounts one to HODL and one to trade between cryptos. That's where the Whales come in, doubling up on a shit coin and dumping.

>>2675716
go check gdax and gemini being manipulated by 1.5k sell orders for hours and without any incentive to sell a single piece of that wall

>>2675716

There were posts here the first time I posted stating exactly this. If it was so obvious, why didn't everyone sell at 320 and buy back on this dip? What originally made me want to post was seeing these threads talking about 600 eth, and going long on eth at the time. I was just passing on info.

>>2675699

I'm not predicting anything, just passing on info. I can tell you what I plan on doing, that's buying in at 250. That's what works for my situation at the moment. As far as ceiling, I'll probably consult after it hits 250 the see what the next move is and go from there. Whatever I'm told I'll probably post here for those interested.

>>2672330
HOW DO YOU KNOW

reports say it will out do bitcoin?is it not time to buy then?

>>2675794

I've answered this in my very first post. I've been given information in the past several times that turned out to be lucrative for me, and seemed to me at least to be eerily on point. I doubted it at first too, but when it worked out several times I took notice. I posted on here to pass it on, saying to take it with a grain of salt and ultimately do what's best for you. People on here have said it's obvious and my friend using just basic techniques. Maybe that's true, but I highly doubt it. Even if it's true, the results are the same so I'm not sure it matters. I'm not coming on here saying you have to buy or have to sell. Always just come on to state what I was told and answer questions for a bit. What you do with the info is up to you.

>>2675830
yeah I've seen this post come up a few times, and so far seems it is coming true. So, well done so far.

>>2675774
That's been there for days
>>2675790
>If it was so obvious, why didn't everyone sell at 320 and buy back on this dip?
people are dumb and greedy
I've lost opportunities by trying to get another 50$ on 500$+ gains. Greed gets the better of people. Stupidity gets the better of newbies.

>>2675748
Yup.

>>2675841

Truth. You should know your entry, exit and stop before going into a trade, and not adjust them once you're in.

>>2675853
Exactly, but sometimes I think "The last time it went up 7%, so I can settle by 5%" then it only goes 4% and starts falling, and I think, "Lets go 3.5%" and it doesn't go back there and it's too risky to hold.

Best advice I can give is if you day trade GRAB THE MONEY AND GET OUT. There will always be other dips and fluctuations, get a bit even if you only get 25% of the total fluctuation.

>>2675867

I have the opposite problem, I'm too quick to book profits rather than letting it ride. I'm letting this one ride though, I'll get back in once the 4hr macd histogram stops bottoming out or it reaches my buy at 250

So uhh
I'm in this for a month.
How do you short? Why is it good?

>>2675965

You need to have a margin account on an exchange that allows margin trading, like Bitfinex, GDAX, or Poloniex. To do it, you just sell coins you don't have, by borrowing them from other users.

>>2675974
Don't you have to legally agree that you have 5 million+ in assets or something along those lines?

>>2675602
>>2675612
>"the bitcoin network can't scale with normal usage. the fees are high and transfers take forever"
>it's just high demand
>"after 5 back to back ICOs that raised a billion dollars, the ethereum network is congested, but fees are still low and confirmations still only take a few minutes"
>HOLY SHIT ETHEREUM IS FUCKED SELL EVERYTHING, WHEEEEZ. BITCOIN IS THE ONLY COIN THE MATTERS
I literally can't wait until august 1st.

>>2675965
don't. a newcoiner trying to short means you're going to get your clock cleaned.

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I hope you bought the dip

>>2675965
Be careful, Anon.
Shorting in a bull market is very dangerous.

Crypto is not growing fast in the last few days, but this can change over night.

>>2676588
>mfw still thinks its a bull market

Fuck its going up again... I was hoping it would reach 250 and below so I could buy back in lower. Im bad at this.

>>2676663
99% of people are bad at this.
The winners are just lucky and present themselves as smart until they actually believe it due to survivorship bias.
Technical analysis is also garbage.

Wow
look at that
ETH is now 278 from 265
Where's the 250 OP?

>>2676663
no it isn't xD
put your fucking chart on 12h or 1d and stop watching 1m candles like a bunch of drunk russkis watching 2 dogs fuck.

>>2672846
Basically yeah, when everyone is screaming SELL SELL SELL, I think of them as poo in loos that want to buy cheaper. If they say BUY BUY BUY they want to cash out higher in order to be able to afford real toilets. Of course people (retarded as they are) willingly follow these pajeets into their designated shitting streets and lick up their shit.

The evidence is there, after a big fucking dip, there's almost always a big fucking shoot up afterwards, so either just hold and sell on the big upswing, or sell and buy back once it looks like it's going to change momentum.

If there's no big upswing then you're fucked, kek, but that's part of what makes this so exciting.

Or you could just continue HODLing and come back when the next major bull run happens. I've done that in the past and it paid off too, it just took 7 months or so to break even, but then it went straight past that and I could've made 6-7 times my initial amount if I wasn't such a coward.

Of course there are no certainties. But seriously no fucking Poo in loo on /biz/ can tell you for certain.

>>2672312
That's like saying whatever you do, don't do it.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHALEPOOL CHAT THEY HAVE ALL BEEN BUYING SLOWLY OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS SO AS TO NOT STIR THE MARKET

THEY PLAN ON RESELLING AT 350

FUCKING BUY NOW UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET FUCKED

>>2676887
Why are you screaming?

>>2676899
Because he is a FUD'ing retard that believes typing in all caps convinces people.

>>2672316
Crying with laughter

It's happening like OP said. Proof that the market is being manipulated is in this thread

>>2672312
It's 265 now anon.
Shall we come back here when it's 250 or will you come back?
Ps I can keep shorting right ?

Damn OP predicted this perfectly. Tell us more

>>2676749

Like I said earlier, by this weekend. It's not going to happen all of a sudden in 2 seconds, it's being made to look natural and not manipulated. Was just told to have my positions set by a certain time and to wait for 250. That's what I'm doing.

Oh wise one..will eth dip below 250?

>>2672762
this tbqh

dont short this, if you wanted to short eth, you should have done at 300$

Everyone should do what they think is best for them and their situation. If you want to buy in at 260 something, then go for it. It's still better then buying above 300, which many people on here were saying to do because it was a good deal in their eyes. Just passing information. I'll check and see if there's been any change since I first started this thread but was told to expect it sometime this weekend. I'm not really stressing about it, I sold at 320. Even if I bought in at 280 I'd still be up on eth. It was above 300 when I first mentioned 250 and now it's been closer to 250 then it has 300.

For those who are interested, should I keep posting on here or start a new thread?

Keep going here. I'm quite interested in this development.

I've shorted ETH on your info. Let's see how it goes

>>2672312
Meanwhile, investors who continue to hold ether itself cheer on the "Flippening" – the moment when ethereum's market cap will exceed bitcoin's, and thereby dethrone bitcoin as the dominant cryptocurrency. What these investors don’t realize is that the Flippening is essentially already upon us. They should not be comparing the market cap of bitcoin (which largely stands in isolation) to the market cap of ether.

Instead, they should be comparing the market cap of the ethereum ecosystem to bitcoin, ie the aggregate market cap of ether along with all its altcoins.

If you look at cryptocurrency market caps, seven of the top 10 are already based on ethereum. For those expecting another rapid doubling in price, they may be left waiting as value continues to diffuse across various ethereum-based tokens.

Really activated my almonds.

This must be the floor now..?

>>2679403
looks like it...it's been stuck around this price point for a while now.

But who knows?

>>2672731
Thats not how shorting works. The idea of shorting is as such:

1. You tell your broker that you believe that the price of a specific security will go down in the near term.

2. Your broker takes shares of the security that are owned by other people and sells them at the current price, with the understanding that if the price raises or does not drop that you will purchase back the shares for the person you are borrowing from

3. If the price does indeed drop, the shares are purchased back at the lower price

4. You receive the profit equal to the price of the (initial sale of shares) - (new purchase price of shares) = your profit


example: You short 10 shares of a security at $100, broker sells 10 shares for $1000. The price drops to $75 and your broker buys back the shares at $750. You will take home the profit of 1000-750 = $250 (minus various broker and transaction fees)

>>2679277

Ok, I'll keep posting here for now.

>>2679412
r/ethtrader and newsbtc said the next bear test would be $210 if a resistance formed below $270 which is happening now so let's see...

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>>2672312
tfw you were right. sold at 280 rebought at 250, now I wait... r-right?

>>2679627
Okay, so it's around 250, what's going on?
Will I be able to buy some (100$ or so) and sell it higher so I might be able to offset my $330 bag price?

>>2679677

I have a buy order at 250, with some fiat set aside in case it dips farther. What I was told was it was going to pushed down to 250 as much as possible, but if it goes farther even better. The first post I made, the push was 320 to 300, and it went to 290. So it seems it could go farther down, just depends.

>>2679715
>What I was told was it was going to pushed down to 250 as much as possible
Ahahah you fucking LARPER. This "being pushed down to $250" is normal correction movement. And the bottom is at somewhere around $180. You don't need a fucking whale crew to move ETH down right now.

Holy fuck you degenerate larper.

Rofl. You fucking idiots thought it'd stop at 250. Are you not seeing the same market? With the same lack of positive news? This shit is retesting 200, and this time it's breaking on through. Don't say you weren't warned.

>>2679715
I saved some fiat incase it dips further too, just rebought my original amount is all :^)

>>2679724

I've been posting here for days, check previous posts in this thread. I'm sure now people will say it was so easy to see, but I was posting about 250 when everyone else thought it was going up not down.

>>2679749
>going up not down.

So, keep shorting?

Buy back when it hits below what, 240? or is it too low?

>>2679749
>I've been posting here for days
keep on larping. the trend is negative right now - don't need a crystal ball to see where the price is going.

>>2679768

Buy back below 200. This train isn't out of gas yet.

>>2679783
this. don't bother with catching the knife till it's below $200. and then wait for a sign of trend reversal because there's a good probability that it will keep falling way below $200.

>>2679783
why not buy back below 100? or even 10 cents?

>>2679798
omg is muh eth going to 10 cents again?!

>>2679798
I see. Any timeframe you're considering for this slope?

I bought a few at around 300. Then bought more when it hit 240 a few days ago.

I'm in it for the long run but I don't mind making more money shorting it.

>>2679799
because that would be out of the norm

>>2679805
no, that would be highly improbable

I suggest you crawl up into fetal position and start sobbing because your bags will be heavy for the next time to come.

>>2679835
brb crying...

>>2679520
So it's like binary options but with a longer time span?

>>2679779

My point was it was at 320, and I posted on here before the drop talking about heading back down. Just look at the screen shots in this thread and look at the charts.

>>2679863
thanks for telling these retards to buy in at 250

ether is going below 200 lol

>>2679889
imma buy in at 150

bitcoin has another 70$ to fall boys

you cunts could halve this bitch and id still be green

>>2679957
don't worry pussy we're coming for you

>>2679749
Got a ref code for bitfinex bro? I want to put you as my ref

>>2679962
Are you a whale? Can you drop it to one fiddy thx

It's going to break past $250. Not enough buyer support. Next major support line not until $200.

>>2679981
why do you type this when the low was 242

no shit 250 isn't holding lmao

reversal incoming 250 support very strong

>>2679970
all the whales have been slowly cashing out over the past 2 weeks. this has been stated many times by various sources.

if you look at the ETH graphs, most of the new money got in around 200-270 right after that big crash. they are the most inexperienced and they are the ones feeling the most heat right now. once it goes to 200 they will dump real fucking fast and then there's no telling how low we go, probably 150.

>>2679749
this man tells the truth
I didn't think it was going back up, I just thought his posts were wild guesses and random FUDding.

OP is the eth god . vitalik should zuk his dik

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>>2672312
o-ok

>be me
>use Gemini
>no way to tether or short so sold my stack of ETH for USD at $300 two days ago
>ready to buy back in at $250
>my USD STILL isn't available for trading due to a hold

GOD DAMMIT FUCK YOU GEMINI USELESS POS

>>2680073
$40

>>2680241
No fuck you its going to 10 cents then 0

i bought at 245 and resold at 252, can I risk doing this again? I want a ps4.

How many sats are 250 dollars inETH? Thanks

Fuck, when you have no money in GDAX and transferring takes 3-5 days, so when you want to buy a few ether you gotta pay coinbase fees.

Fuck. Your right. Here we go. UP UP UP!!!!!'n


REEeeeeeerrrRrrrrrrEEeeeeEeeeeeE

>>2680517
SCREENCAPPED

Hope I was able to help some of you out these past few days. Headed off for a bit, be back to talk more later.

>>2680588
buy dude. thanks for the information

>>2680614
oops i meant bye. my mind is elsewhere, sorry

>>2680588
>>2679965

Are you guys thinking it's going back up?, still looks like it's going down

>>2680614
BUY BUY BUY

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Liquidate all your ETH assets now. If you're smart then invest in tezos.

it's resisting the downward trend...

Anyone confident in shorting ETH any longer?

>>2680747
>3 weeks uncapped ICO
>currently no product
>tokens frozen for 4 months
I don't see how this could go wrong at all.

>>2680833
>ethereum was also uncapped newcoiner
>test net has been live for months, check their github
>why would you need the tokens before the main net goes live?

keep parroting babby

>>2680821
>Anyone confident in shorting ETH any longer?
hell yeah. this thing is going to tank.

>>2680865
sheeeit.

can you determine anything from the 5m graph on crytpowatch? it's forming an inverse head and shoulders on the 5m but i dunno if it's reliable to use it or not

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>>2680833
TEZOS feeds on FUD
it's fuel for it's moon mission

>>2680833
Shhh. If they can't see the obvious red flags let them get raped by Tezos. They probably think that Tezos is unique and there isn't already a coin out there doing what the hope to do.

>>2680588
What's your email?

>>2680848
>comparing ethereum to this shitcoin

hahahahaha

i have a question for you guys who think OP is legit

what would be the point of orchestrating a massive pump at 250 in an obvious bear market be?

it's fucking suicidal to try it even if you have 20k eth.

you still here OP? sold at 265 and we are close to getting there again with buy support and I'm getting cold feet...

You sure this is goig to 250 or did they maybe abandon earlier? serious question

>>2681557
Just bought back in @ $268.46! I hope this goes somewhere...

>>2681590
Lol it is about to hit 189 why would you but a fucking high?

ETH IS BEING MANIPULATED.

Why aren't we talking about this

>>2681606
you really think it's going to hit the previous support? in what timeframe do you see that happen?
i doubt it, this right now is test of the 61%fib and on the 30m it looks like it could be rejected..

>>2681623
[citation needed]
[by whom?]

>>2681623
the entire market is manipulated you fucking moron. You think these pumps and dumps are just natural movement...?

>>2681733

>expecting certainty in information on a closed groups of elites

This isn't Wikipedia.

>>2681745
So whats the end goal? Things crashing or things mooning?

>>2681733
by jews, such as yourself.

So buy or wait :/

>>2681745
honestly i don't even know how those pumps work...they are over in less than a minute so who is supposed to buy into it? aren't all these pump groups esentially dumping on their slowest members? if so how come that they still have such enormous volume each time?

>>2680588
That remains to be seen, since what you said was BUY at 250, doesn't it?

This whole place is one big unsubstantiated claim after claim, and here you are, talking out your ass like everyone else here.

Of course, some naive idiots will believe you have any idea what the future holds, but I don't.

>>2672916
them bags are saucy dude.

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What does this mean?

>>2683431

Means the price is going way down. Whale manipulation in action.

>>2683543
How low will it decrease towards?

>>2683543
what are you talking about?

how is this 'manipulation'?

Eth 255 buy now??

I'll buy it when it's <$100

>>2683750
fuck no i dont even know the price but fuck no

>>2680212
YOU'RE MAD??

I'VE BEEN LOCKED OUT OF MY ACCOUNT FOR WEEKS DUE TO A -$590 CREDITED BALANCE THAT REQUIRES A WIRE TRANSFER NOT ACH,

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SELL MY 22 ETH BAGS FOR 3 WEEKS, THAT $6600 IS LITERALLY GOING TO BE $3000 FUCKING GRAND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiXS_jjJYY8

I'm back. Couple of things, I said that a push was being made to get to 250 sometime this weekend. It was being attempted, and personally I think they'll hit it given that last time I was told about a push like this it ended up being pushed down 10 dollars more past the goal. As I've said many times, make your own decisions based on what's best for you. I still have buy orders at 250, but even if I buy in at 270 I'm still coming out ahead because I sold at the last top of 320. Your situation might be different, so do what's best for you. As to why they would do this, what I've been told is its all about accumulating eth for as cheap as possible. Some plan on holding, others want a quick buck. It seems pretty obvious why someone would want to manipulate it of they could.

>>2684299

Thanks for your updates man.

We're currently in a bear market. Could be momentary or last a few months, however long it takes for the market to cool down after this period of hyper growth we've experienced.

Bear markets are ripe with market manipulation, with the hopes of accumulation and making money. This is a trader's paradise- if you are not a trader, either hodl or cash out and wait in fiat.

The bull will come back in due time, and probably an order of magnitude stronger than the last time. Just be patient and don't panic friends.

>>2682214

Go look at all my screenshots, and all replies in this thread.

>>2684299
what will you be doing once you buy back in? waiting for your friend to tell you what's next on his agenda?

>>2684366

As I said before, more or less yes.

>watches as a 1100BTC sell wall gets rekt
heh heh heh

>>2681830
>aren't all these pump groups esentially dumping on their slowest members? if so how come that they still have such enormous volume each time?

The idea is to dump on the daytraders who see the trend but don't have the information to get in quickly, or know when they're going to pull the rug out after it builds up

resistance at $270 right now. if we breakout soon then was just a dedicated larper.

personally I wanted to buy in around $240 but it looks like that option isn't on the table anymore.

>>2685837
It could be tomorrow anon
I want to buy back in sub $250 too but the only thing stopping me is the thought that it may go lower

>>2685845
Broke resistance. Down we go.

do you still think it's going to hit $250 soon?

It broke resistance upwards. It's not in a local downtrend anymore

>>2687031
Niggu, it's already dropping again.

So glad this thread is still alive. I sold at $300 on Thursday and bought back in at $256 late last night...

...but only bought back in half, because I'm done with ETH dominating my portfolio. Will ETH go back up? Will it break $400? Sure... maybe even by midweek... but right now I think Ripple might finally do something exciting, and I've been looking to secure a long-term position in a couple other coins that were too cheap last night to pass up.

>>2687068
>at $271
>It's going down
>le larper said

Idiots

20x leverage shorting at 260

Lets do it lads!

All i got left are my eth bags.

Bought at $120 and will sell at $400 to go balls deep in Btc For August first.

>>2687151
rip

>>2687151
where can u even do 20x? what's your interest rate? you'll have to pay back an insane lot more ETH when you close those positions
that's a great way to lose everything

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It's trying to break a (short term) downtrend, if it does it could go up quite a bit. MACD is bullish and RSI is still not in oversold territory.

>>2687151
You're fucked.

>>2687151
time to kys yet?

seemed the bottom was $256

srs though why are there not more threads about ETH mooning rn. it feels like every etherfag has left and there are only pol meme posters and dbg bagholders here.

>>2688478
probably because every single eth thread is filled with people calling eth a shitcoin and that it will drop to $7

>>2688478
it's not "mooning." It partially recovered. I sold again (a little early, but better safe than sorry), and am waiting to rebuy on the next dip.

kinda feel like i fucked up by not buying in at 258 last night

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>>2688478
Not mooning

Needs a huge rally to even recover, mooning would be $400+

>>2688496
well then, it is getting itself ready to moon. the push to 280$ was very important today, as to not break down. it shows the strength of the asset that was in doubt. it might drop a little, but it will be making a higher low and slowly completing the huge bullflag. then moon.

>>2688516
We'll see. I ain't got no crystal ball, but I think >>2688503 and I will have another chance to buy in at $260 before ETH breaks $320...

...which still wouldn't be a "moon."

>>2688504
also it just did 10% in what was traded as a bear market. it's not mooning in the degenerate way it did for 2 months, but it is legitimately jumping up.

>>2688522
As long as I at least make some gas money, I'm happy.

>>2688529
well comrade, having said what I just did, the volume right now is threatening to make a liar out of me. I still think a buy order at $260 is a safe bet before midweek, but brace for FOMO...

>>2684324
When do we sell?

>>2673417

Saved

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>>2688504
It's doubtful for now. We've been in a bear market for more than a couple weeks now.

>>2687151
FUCK

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>>2687151

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>>2687151
The post that saved Ethereum.

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That required some patience...

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I did however open a better position near the bottom on Kraken ETH/XBT,
so I'm already in the green

All in all margin trading is rather degenerate gambling, imho.

>>2689157
not bad. not bad at all.

>>2689104
why?

we've seen this so many times, eth crashes and recovers the fastest and hardest when bitcoin recovers from it's dumps

why the fuck did you short the rally up??

>>2689215
there will obviously come a time when it won't dip back to $260 anymore. just like the only thing those morons do, who shorted @$150, is shitposting on /biz/ hoping they can convince morons of mass-selling
he can join their army when ETH skyrockets and finds new supports again

>>2689268
shorting is just very dangerous in general
if a short position doubles, you lose everything

>>2689268
Mmmyeah, I'm gonna need ETH to dip to $260 just one more time for me, so if we could get that underway before Monday, that'd be great...

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I think that people can earn money by trading the opposite of me.

Fuck my life.

>>2689329
Also would like to mention that the SECOND I bought back my margin it went down.

>>2689329
do yourself a favor and don't fucking margin trade, you have no idea what you're doing.

>>2689279
>if a short position doubles, you lose everything

how? you're only down to half your initial funds, minus interests

>>2689340
I know, I just wanted to try it out.

>>2689355
great, you tried, now buy ether and fucking hold it like literally this whole fucking board told you to do.

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>>2687151

>>2689343
depends on if it's on leverage or not

but if you short 100 dollars worth at 10
it shoots up to 20
you now have to buy the same number at twice the price (200), so you do "lose everything" that you put in

>>2689400
no you ignorant slut you buy anything but eth cuz its A SCAM I TELL YOU SELL SELL SELL!!! t. bitcoin hodler

>>2689415
Yes,

what I tried to say was, a coin can easily double, but it very rarely goes to 0 which would mean losing everything in a long position with a leverage of x1 for simplicity's sake

Shorting is dangerous. Forget the stop-limit just one time + some bad luck = death

Just got into crypto yesterday and already made 10% profit off my investment. Nice.

Yyyyyeessss

DROP for Daddy, you little Etherslut... lower... lower... go DOWN for me... drop for me...

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newest of the newfags here, are you guys using coinbase type sites to buy Ethereum or something else?

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am i doing this right?

>>2689803
I used Bitstamp although I haven't bought crypto since 2014, only cashed out since

>>2689803
if you already have coinbase set up, then go on gdax.com it's the same company so you can use your coinbase log in, good thing about GDAX is that with limit orders there are no fees.

>>2689837
What? No fees? Even with margin trading? Fees keep fucking my profit

>>2689809
what do you base the top line's angle on??

>>2690065
ATH

>>2690113
but it intersects no other point that the ATH, how is that just not an arbitrary line? isn't it supposed to intersect the char @ 2 points?

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>>2690065
like this

picking line segments seems arbitrary sometimes , but i think of it like , its in a down trend since ATH, and there's a shorter uptrend recently. So i picked the fibb lines off recent move up and uptrend line on recent bounces.

I just play around with these and see how the price follows.

>>2690147
well it's interesting that the ceiling on 6/29 correlated between the longer downtrend and the recent move up

>>2690161
>but i think of it like , its in a down trend since ATH, and there's a shorter uptrend recently. So i picked the fibb lines off recent move up and uptrend line on recent bounces.

that does seem entirely arbitrary, lol

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Morons. Here's what you need to look at. If we go over the line marked with purple, the bull run will continue. If we go under the line marked with orange, the bear run will. This will all be decided no later than the 7th.

So should I buy Ethereum now or wait for another dip?

>>2690436
there are no more dips, buy in now or regret

thread is over limit

new thread: >>2690428

>>2690052
idk about margin trading, but unless i'm retarded, there's no fee on limit buy or sell orders.